Non IOD Limited Duty Meeting
Anyone have info from the meeting? What was discussed? What was proposed or offered or promised? Either we're going to see a bunch of early retirements or a bunch of people are going to start appearing in the districts.
Labels: FOP, we got nothing
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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The strong rumors say one year of limited duty, that's it. If you can't come back full duty after that, it's duty disability pension or simple disability.
If you qualify for duty disability, that's 65% until you can retire. If you don't, simple disability. That's one year for every four worked, to a max of five years. After that........breadlines or something.
On the one hand, it seems heartless, but on the other.....there are quite a few useless asshats milking the shit out of light duty.
We'll see.
Remember a F/2 coming off of Light Duty so she could participate in the TARA program.
Could someone please publish a REAL number of blue shirts on the job now.
Remember when we had 2- 06 cars, a traffic car, all beat cars man'd and 2 or 3 in the lock-up. It doesnt seem all that long ago, but it was....
or 1/2 and 1/2 and im not talking about morning coffee either
The thing pissing me off right now is the proposal to do away with Duty Availability pay for Limited Duty officers. Last I checked, the limited duty officers still have to show up to work at callback and still have to be on call if they have to show up at work due to a city emergency. So why do away with that benefit? Because limited duty officers are a small number and the FOP doesnt care about them.
Just remember that the city pays the salaries of those on Light Duty, while those on non-duty disability are paid out of the pension fund.
Have a strong feeling limited duty officers are going to be another feather in J-Feds cap of headhunting. The FOP doesn't seem to want to fight for these spots but would rather compromise for 200 ld positions. Once upon a time there were spots for p.o.'s when they needed to get off the street for their own safety, let alone other street cops. Well, fop gave up these spots to civilians. If they take away this status today, what will they take tomorrow? It is very short sighted to think that you will still want to be out there wrestling with these mutts 10-15 years from now. These are spots that tired working p.o.'s deserve. The city also can not be bothered to go through limited duty records to find out who is abusing the system, and yes there are many. These officers should be ashamed of themselves and should be put off the job totally. Would you want them as your partner? But any officer that has put in his street time, and lets face it, alot of these injuries are from working the street and not having it documented, deserve to have a place on this job. Let's find out how many able bodied officers are working spots that ld officers could perform and try to place them there.
P\O's coming off light duty when it benfits them. For examle, a female light duty for years return to full duty for FTO promotion. Why not do yearly evaluations? Put full duty on street whenever possible to open a spot for P\O recovering from IOD.
Desperation for bodies to man beat cars,the public is now aware of the critical manpower shortage and elected officials are desperate.
It is imperative that you educate everyone you come in contact with about the critical manpower shortages and have them address their safety concerns to their elected officials and demand accountability.
News Flash!!!
The City of Chicago will immediately be issuing a new pill which will prevent you from getting colon cancer, kidney cancer and prevent coronary heart failure.
No to worry the Mayor has this under control, all is well.
It is now ok to accept the new limited duty plan.
If this meeting is run anything like the med section, the meeting will start right in front of the window.... there will be five or six gals sitting there, behind the glass, looking into space. Eventually someone will pass around a clipboard, all will sign in. Then, the whole group will get to sit in the lobby, watching moisha, the hugleys, or whatever else happens to be on "The U". An hour or so later, a nurse will come out, all stressed becuase she has to see someone. They will enter an office stuffed with paperwork, the nurse will type some junk, complain that she is really overworked (for out of grade pay, weekens off!!), the members will go home and wait a few days for a referral. Then, and only then, will the whole group have to go back to the section in hopes to start the meeting, yet the process will repeat itself for several months. While there are undoubtadly officers that abuse the system, the system is chock full of red-tape, and its REAL easy to get stuck in there..... It is laughable that a nurse cannot make a dr appointment for you, it takes a different po to do that.... In a way, its symptomatic of the whole dept. While you have people there that do a good job, you also have a few lazy ones that really jam up the works... once you are med or especially iod you just disappear.. the ONLY person that has any control or knowledge over your case is the nurse, and she's so overwhelmed she just needs to suspend your case and move on to to the next one in the pile..... I'm not trying to knock people that work down there, but if this was a private dr's office, it would have been bankrupt a long time ago....
If a officer is lietimately light duty, then so be it. But establish criteria with yearly reviews. Remove clout and favoritism. Hurt your back after a pregnancy for ten years without any type of treatment or therapy to portect a inside job? use LD to work days for child care? BS. I would love to know the percentage of clouted females on light duty.
The compassionate democrats treat welfare mutts better than someone who worked for 15 years and than gets sick or hurt.Yea some may have abused it but it was a nice benefit for all of us.
At the union meeting the other day we were told almost 600 officers on limited duty NON-IOD. And that was no BS! Most of these dead beats were claiming muscle problems as the reason not to work. I say get rid of them, they do us no good and are hurting the department.
Here's an idea.
We have a separate 300 person "airport police" agency in this city that employs non armed state certified officers to largely watch the fenceline at both airports. Someone can correct me if I am wrong.
Take those 300 officers and put them in CPD and take 300 limited duty types to drive around the fenceline in their SUV's.
Thank you and I expect a promotion to exempt rank for that.
An Irish American cop working a southside district years ago, light duty, took the sergeants test and passed. When they got to his number he managed to get off light duty status and was promoted. For the non informed, a light duty person cannot be promoted.
Shortly after being promoted, he goes on light duty again and ends his career in traffic court.
Shit like this is why we need to revamp the light duty rolls.
Has FOP agreed to the city's proposals? Was this a forum in that feedback was being taken back to the negotiating table?
If FOP is caving in to the city's proposals, what is CPD gaining in exchange?
GOD HELP YOU IF YOU GET SICK OR INJURED OFF DUTY. YOU ARE USED GOODS TO THE CITY. THEY WANT TO THROW YOU OUT WITH THE TRASH. IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANYONE ANYTIME. ADVICE: GET DISABILITY INSURANCE NOW. AT LEAST YOU'LL HAVE 60%COMING IN UNTIL AGE 65. THEN IT'S WELFARE. THE UNION DID NOT SEEM LIKE THEY WERE GOING TO FIGHT THE CITY ON THIS ONE.
The thing pissing me off right now is the proposal to do away with Duty Availability pay for Limited Duty officers
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It's called Duty Availability Pay... Not Limited Duty Availability PPay
becasue light duty officers are a suction on the department.
how many po's and sgt's went on light duty when they changed our day off groups to F/S or S/M? a lot. light duty stay in Sat/Sun and do not have to work the summer details. people up here have been on light duty for years. i understand most of their duties are inside, however they stay on light duty to avoid details and other deployments, such as "Back to the Beat Street II - Electric Boogaloo."
I guess I just do not understand this. Any other job where you are injured, on or off the job, and can't come back you go on disability, and/or find a job you can do.
Why should it be any different for police?
"The FOP doesn't seem to want to fight for these spots but would rather compromise for 200 ld positions."
What else is new? The clowns only concern themselves w/what they can put in their pocket. But w/4,000 votes cast last election we get what we deserve. Apathy breeds content. So take what you get when you get it & STFU!!
"I guess I just do not understand this. Any other job where you are injured, on or off the job, and can't come back you go on disability, and/or find a job you can do.
Why should it be any different for police?
7/10/2008 04:30:00 PM"
CHICAGO POLICE OFFICERS DO NOT GET WORKMAN COMPENSATION,THEY DO NOT RECEIVE SOCIAL SECURITY DISABILITY, CANNOT SUE FOR PAIN & SUFFERING.
PRIVATE SECTOR USUALLY DON'T GET SHOT THE HEAD @ WORK.
YOU STILL WANT TO DRAW COMPARISIONS?
MOST INJURIES OFFICERS RECEIVE OFF DUTY ARE JOB RELATED
IT'S MORE THAN APPARENT FROM YOUR DUMMY POST,YOU MUST HAVE BEEN DROPPED ON YOUR HEAD WHEN YOU WERE A CHILD
Union gave Baltimore as a test case. They had 170 limited duty ofc's 150 of which were duty related, only 20 were non duty related. Police lost in Supreme Ct. Decision. Baltimore police have no limited duty rights of any kind, duty or non duty alike. So who do you think the next on the shitcago's hit list? I love all of the posters who don't believe this will affect them. Our rights and benefits continue to erode contract after contract. Time to wake up people.
PLEASE THERE R TWO GUYS IN 2 ON 3RD WATCH THAT HAVE BEEN SUCKing A BS IOD FOR OVER 6MONTHS. While the rest of us go to work every day. It sucks...where is iad on these two abusers. I guess it doesn't matter because they do nothing when they r there anyway...
"Apathy breeds content. So take what you get when you get it & STFU!!
7/10/2008 06:00:00 PM"
Apathy breeds contempt for those who are apathetic.
There are PO's that are legitimately on light duty due to illness or injury and then there are some that are just plain ole dogs that are abusing the system. I hate to see the legits get punished like this. Not only are there people that are legitimately on IOD due to injury but there are also some that are just plain ole dogs that are abusing the system. I hate to see any of these dogs get away with it when there are people that really deserve to be light duty. As someone said, many injuries that we sustain cannot be proven as duty-related. How many PO's have back pain, arthritis in joints, neck pain from wearing all of this extra equipment? MANY!!! but they cannot prove this is job related and then they're going to be forced to take disability or quit the job.
P\O's coming off light duty when it benfits them. For examle, a female light duty for years return to full duty for FTO promotion. Why not do yearly evaluations? Put full duty on street whenever possible to open a spot for P\O recovering from IOD.
**And then she gives her Dr's # to her friend who is now LD.
I have almost 22 years on the job and in all that time I have seen two maybe three "Legitimate" light duty cases and that is a fact. Too many dog asses taking up space and getting paid the same money the cops on the street are getting. I say get rid of all of them and hire cops who will be on the street doing what they are paid to do. You can't do the job tough shit, that's life.
anonymous said...
I guess I just do not understand this. Any other job where you are injured, on or off the job, and can't come back you go on disability, and/or find a job you can do.
Why should it be any different for police?
7/10/2008 04:30:00 PM
Because there are many p.o.'s milking the system with "stress-related diarrhea" and other ridiculous maladies, us honest folk must pay for their sins.
Just remember that the city pays the salaries of those on Light Duty, while those on non-duty disability are paid out of the pension fund.
Goof no money comes out of your pension fund for disability. Separate fund. stop it. you guys are pricks . I hope you never get cancer.
I remember being at the medical section about 10 years ago when an officer with a foot-high butterwhip came in and reported her malady as "vertigo" which she went on to claim she caught from one of her children who must have brought it home from school.
Anonymous said...
P\O's coming off light duty when it benfits them. For examle, a female light duty for years return to full duty for FTO promotion. Why not do yearly evaluations? Put full duty on street whenever possible to open a spot for P\O recovering from IOD.
7/10/2008 11:24:00 AM
What about the guy who was LD now has been off for quite awhile but yet can go out coaching volleyball and baseball and playing with his "sore back" but will be made "merit sgt." and then get released what an asshole but he has clout and is hispanic gee who could that be? can you guess?
disability are paid out of the pension fund.
Not true no pension fund money is used they pay into the fund. leave these guys alone. comes from a city fund.
lets face it, alot of these injuries are from working the street and not having it documented, deserve to have a place on this job.
I agree I looked at my medical file because I have had numerous injuries during my 23 years in a squad car, low and behold I had missing IOD'S, doctors reports. Also during those years I did not report injuries I received on the job because I had a second job to go to.
t is laughable that a nurse
Why do we have to have a nurse PO, she can go on the street and be the police. A civilian Nurse will do. I had a young female Hispanic Nurse who got real snippy with me, I told her she was a empty holster and at that time she related that she was an empty holster and she came on this job to work in the medical section and for the benefits. NICE and you guys are worried about L/D officers. sickening
. Remove clout and favoritism.
You think that will ever happen. They are going to fuck over ONLY those officers without juice.
I say get rid of them, they do us no good and are hurting the department.
What a punk. ( get rid of them all)
The thing pissing me off right now is the proposal to do away with Duty Availability pay for Limited Duty officers
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It's called Duty Availability Pay... Not Limited Duty Availability PPay
You people have no heart, if that was you. you would be crying. 35th st receives it yet you want to take it away from other. you must be a real company pussy,
I always observed and heard stories about "dogs" getting a hangnail and getting their 75% Duty disability tax free. It wouldn't slow them down either. They'd still be golfing,skiing,mountain climbing,fucking, etc.
But, I guess it's who you know, or your bloodline that determines IOD/NON-IOD, duty disabled, etc.
I was a working PO for more than a decade. One night while working, had a catastrophic illness. Ended up in Hospital, nearly dead. The episode was classified non-IOD/illness-on-duty. Spent months on the medical. Still feeling like shit, but came back full duty because ordinary disability would bankrupt any officer. I remember thinking, i'd get 50% for 3 years then let go. I'd be a mid 40's "train wreck" with a pre-exsisting condition, essentially unemployable.I alway's paid for the optional LTD insurance, after reading the fine print, it would take a signature from the President, an act of GOD, and my first born to get 60% if I qualified. No thanks.
I pushed myself hard in rehab and therapy and made it back. But barely. Honestly, I look okay on the outside, but I'm still a mess on the inside. As a once working P.O., the old me, wouldn't want to work with the new me! (Sad..I wouldn't want to work with myself)I hope I don't get anyone hurt.
Yet some P.O.'s would look at me and think "he looks okay to me, why is he light duty? He must be an abuser or a dog!"
Three types of disibility:
Duty
Cardiac
Ordinary
I think the FOP fought hard for the 2nd one years back because most of the board had heart problems and figured if they lost the cushy FOP gig and had to go back to the D unit they'd opt for the Disability route.
But I don't understand why some obese, chain smoking, burger eating P.O. has a grabber and gets a disabilty pension under the cardiac bill, yet other chronically ill officers who have a catastrophic illness (stroke,kidney disease, cancer, MS, etc) only qualifies for the ordinary disability pension, which ain't shit.
A lot of younger officers think you get sick and you medically retire with the 75%. I had some telling me how lucky I was, that if they were me they'd retire to Florida with the 75%..when I told them that that's misinformation and explained the ordinary disability pension, they couldn't believe it.
Just hope you stay healthy.
Just look at how the medical has eroded over the years. Some people rode out their careers on the medical. Like we would take a furlough once a year, some officers would plan to return-to- duty once a year to restart the calender, then hit the medical again after a period. So after 20 years, they'd have about 3 years working and 17 on the medical.
Now you only get 364 days in a 24 month period. So one bad illness can have you off for more than a year and boom you're bankrupted and screwed.
Signed:
Someone who's been there!
FOP couldn't do anything to help, but again I have no CLOUT!
I say get rid of all of them and hire cops who will be on the street doing what they are paid to do. You can't do the job tough shit, that's life.
I would be more then happy to get in the vehicle with you.
Why do we have to have a nurse PO, she can go on the street and be the police. A civilian Nurse will do. I had a young female Hispanic Nurse who got real snippy with me, I told her she was a empty holster and at that time she related that she was an empty holster and she came on this job to work in the medical section and for the benefits. NICE and you guys are worried about L/D officers. sickening
Yeah, too many minorities. Give me a old, big-breasted battle ax, polack or irish broad any day!
I guess I just do not understand this. Any other job where you are injured, on or off the job, and can't come back you go on disability, and/or find a job you can do.
Why should it be any different for police?
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Because there are many p.o.'s milking the system with "stress-related diarrhea" and other ridiculous maladies, us honest folk must pay for their sins.
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another poster (quite rudely I might add) stated PO have no W/C system. is that true? There should be some way to deal with officers who are no longer able to perform the jobs without having them do make work jobs.
Maybe they could act as security guards at some city building or something while they recover. Cops are not generally stupid people. There must be other things they can do if they can't be cops anymore do to some physical malady.
I am really having a hard time understanding this issue.
The city has been looking at limited duty for years now. If you are IOD related limited duty you should be fine- non IOD... The ADA says you have to employ people with limited duty- but not nec as police officers. Basically if you are non-iod get ready to become a civilian or retire (if able) or leave... There are certain people who have been non-iod limited duty for years, or in at least one case I know of for decades...
Let's all remember that this is a BENEFIT that is tied to our medical benefits.
If you give it up = you will lose it forever!
What happenes to you, should you have a heart attack. After you recover, you can return to work in a desk job.
If they do away with the benefit, you get to work one year for every four you have on the job.
So = you get to work 2 more years becuase you only have 15 yrs. on the job.
What do you do after that?
Where do you get a job to support your family, pay your bills, etc.?
There are plenty of FULL DUTY officers that are working in inside positions that could be filled by YOU, the LD officer.
YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THIS IF THIS BENEFIT IS TAKEN AWAY.
YOU WILL BE WITHOUT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!
This thread is so far down the page that I expect none of you will read this. But I hope none of you ever get injured badly. I really do. But complaining about those that are injured.
The guy who coaches his kids teams. If you were injured would you put your personal life on hold due to your injury?
The person who comes off LD to get promoted. If you were injured would you pass up the opportunity to take care of your family better due to your injury?
Are there "abusers"? Of course there are. But there are so many legit people on LD. They shouldnt be screwed over.
Anonymous said...
I guess I just do not understand this. Any other job where you are injured, on or off the job, and can't come back you go on disability, and/or find a job you can do.
Why should it be any different for police?
7/10/2008 04:30:00 PM
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Well, a police officer has tens of thousands of dollars' worth of training and expertise some citizen walking in off the street doesn't have. Why be fiscally STUPID and discard that?
A p.o. has an institutional memory and knows the unwritten policies and the way it's 'really' done. It would take YEARS to teach that to a citizen, if ever.
A p.o., having been there and done that, knows how to handle and manage the 'inside' job, due to his experience and knowledge of the job.
A p.o. understands and has some respect for security, privacy and policy issues, which so many civilians sorely lack.
A working p.o. who develops rheumatoid arthritis, but can still write a crash report and do computer searches at the front desk, a working p.o. who knows every street and bad guy in the district, who blows out their knee racing out the door on the way to work one morning, can still sit in review and read reports for accuracy and enter narratives into the system... a working p.o. who's in the early stages of MS still has their mind and their decades of knowledge intact, even though their ability to run has diminished... and on and on.
No, they can't work the street full-duty and chase the goofs down the gangways, but they can answer phones, talk to citizens, take reports at the desk, do timekeeping, or help to keep the commander's office or the CAPS office running.
I'd say shame on the Department for allowing clout babies to milk the system, but that doesn't mean we throw out the years of experience and expertise of the legitimate light duty people. A little loyalty, folks. Yes, that COULD be you in a few years. And how would you feel if you knew you could do the job, but no one would LET you and they'd just discount you like you had no brain, no background, no knowledge, no experience, no VALUE at all?
Well, a police officer has tens of thousands of dollars' worth of training and expertise some citizen walking in off the street doesn't have. Why be fiscally STUPID and discard that?
A p.o. has an institutional memory and knows the unwritten policies and the way it's 'really' done. It would take YEARS to teach that to a citizen, if ever.
A p.o., having been there and done that, knows how to handle and manage the 'inside' job, due to his experience and knowledge of the job.
A p.o. understands and has some respect for security, privacy and policy issues, which so many civilians sorely lack.
A working p.o. who develops rheumatoid arthritis, but can still write a crash report and do computer searches at the front desk, a working p.o. who knows every street and bad guy in the district, who blows out their knee racing out the door on the way to work one morning, can still sit in review and read reports for accuracy and enter narratives into the system... a working p.o. who's in the early stages of MS still has their mind and their decades of knowledge intact, even though their ability to run has diminished... and on and on.
No, they can't work the street full-duty and chase the goofs down the gangways, but they can answer phones, talk to citizens, take reports at the desk, do timekeeping, or help to keep the commander's office or the CAPS office running.
I'd say shame on the Department for allowing clout babies to milk the system, but that doesn't mean we throw out the years of experience and expertise of the legitimate light duty people. A little loyalty, folks. Yes, that COULD be you in a few years. And how would you feel if you knew you could do the job, but no one would LET you and they'd just discount you like you had no brain, no background, no knowledge, no experience, no VALUE at all?
7/11/2008 01:32:00 PM
Well said!
I was at the meeting. The FOP VP stated that the city offered 200 spots but the FOP wouldn't take it. The reasoning was how does one determine who should get those spots? What if you're # 201? Does that officer just get fucked over as a victim of circumstance?
Another item brought up was grandfathering in all officers currently on non-IOD limited duty. The VP stated that the city would not agree to this.
Another issue brought up was the duty availability pay. Again, the FOP did not want to give this up since this could affect the officer's pension, if the officer would be eligible for one.
The VP made mention of legal opinions made by the FOP lawyers that police officers were not covered by ADA. Right away, one officer raised his hand and told the VP that his information was incorrect. This officer stated that he had done his own research and found that police officers are covered by ADA. He also had researched some cases involving departments trying to get rid of limited duty in which the officers won their case giving San Jose as an example. The VP was glad to hear that the officer had done all this research and asked him to send him whatever he had so the FOP could use it during the negotiations. The officer was totally prepared and had everything on a CD which he gave to the VP. Maybe this officer should try running for the FOP board.
A number of people making comments at the meeting were taking the FOP to task mistakenly as if the FOP had already agreed on the CITY'S proposal. They didn't seem to get it that the city made the proposal, not the union. Along these lines, someone asked why the FOP didn't address this issue in previous contracts. The VP patiently waited until the officer finished his comment and then said that a)this FOP administration is now negotiating their 2nd contract and cannot answer for all previous contracts. b)the issues brought forth by the FOP during these 2 contract negotiations are taken from suggestions made by the members. No one deemed it important enough to make it a contract issue until the city did two months ago.
My take on the whole thing was that the FOP was negotiating this issue with the city, and did not want to give up the status quo as far as benefits. There may be some wriggle room for verification and such.
Sorry for the long post. Stay safe, stay healthy!
But I don't understand why some obese, chain smoking, burger eating P.O. has a grabber and gets a disabilty pension under the cardiac bill, y
If John Thomas H. Silvia or the female sgt from the marine unit all white shirts (well Thomas 1st dpt). anyway they all received In the line of Duty benefits. Then treat us all the same every little blue shirt, If that doesn't happen leave them alone.
I remember being at the medical section about 10 years ago when an officer with a foot-high butterwhip came in and reported her malady as "vertigo" which she went on to claim she caught from one of her children who must have brought it home from school.
7/10/2008 11:03:00 PM
I bet that kid didn't go to Catholic school!
TO: H. Silvia or the female sgt from the marine unit
You are a trus jacka$$....They died in training accidents because of their job speciality at the time, while working... That makes it covered.. I agree about J. Thomas, bit of a stretch...
Also, correct me if I'm wrong the lock-up keeper (Richard Schott)that had a grabber while struggling with unruly prisoner, FULL HONORS FUNERAL as it should be...Look at odmp.org there are 10 people, all po's with heart attacks from the department...
anonymous said...
Union gave Baltimore as a test case. They had 170 limited duty ofc's 150 of which were duty related, only 20 were non duty related. Police lost in Supreme Ct. Decision. Baltimore police have no limited duty rights of any kind, duty or non duty alike. So who do you think the next on the shitcago's hit list? I love all of the posters who don't believe this will affect them. Our rights and benefits continue to erode contract after contract. Time to wake up people.
7/10/2008 06:12:00 PM
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We have NO rights and benefits to NON-IOD limited duty. Read the contract, there is NOTHING in there regarding non-IOD limited duty. We ARE guaranteed IOD limited duty. Baltimore had nothing in their contract either for IOD or non-IOD, they went to court and lost it ALL in the Supreme Court.
The FOP has this choice to make and it should be obvious to anyone with even half a brain:
1. Go to court to fight for non-IOD Limited duty rights and almost certainly lose and there will be NO guarantees for non-IOD limited duty.
2. Negotiate for the 200 spots and the total of 5 (thats FIVE) years of non-IOD Limited duty during your career.
Some or none, that's the choice. As for the officers with cancer etc, we all better have our own disability insurance because the disability from our pension fund for non-IOD stuff is one year of half pay for every 4 years on the job.
The disability insurance offered gives an officer 60% of their take home for life. Get that insurance and never let it lapse, at least not until you qualify for a 60% pension, then you don't need it.
There certainly will be those who blame the FOp, there always are. They are knuckleheads.
The choice is simple: Some or none. Period.
We all know of officers who abuse the non-IOD limited duty as it stands now Want to help? Peer pressure. Get on their ass, turn them in, They are the reason we are now fighting for any limited duty spots at all.
I understand there are no protections under the contract, however I do expect our union to fight for us not just accept the cities proposal. That is what " negotiations" are all about, we pay union dues in exchange for " representation" Is the city going to pay half of our disability insurance? Why would the union simply accept that anyone who has been on limited duty for four years may only have six months left to figure out a way to support their family. Why at the very least wouldn't the clock start for everyone upon the acceptance of the contract. How about allowing these officers to apply for other city jobs. I just don't want our union to just wave the white flag. Its always the same bs each time, let's see if they also roll over and win us our standard 1 1/2% raise the first year. that does not even equal a cost of living increase.
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