Riot Survival for Dummies
We're going to make this an open post for tips and tricks to survive a celebration event like a Bulls riot or a massive public upheaval event like a Bulls riot. Just in case there might be anything on the horizon coming up next week:
- Rule #1 - Never ever leave your partner(s). If you're all going to go home safe, you're all staying together. No heroes.
- Rule #1A - Never ever leave the guy with the radio. For Bulls nights, we were running one radio per four cops. If you're lucky enough to have two radios on post, keep one off to conserve battery power and turn it on if the shit gets rolling.
Those are the important rules. Everyone else can chime in by the comment button. Remember, essentials for ten or more hours on post. Things like water, snacks, bullets, gas masks, helmets, batons, are givens. We're going to say 50% or more of this Department hasn't been through a Bulls riot. What little things do people forget? Things like picking up or breaking all glass bottles around your post can deprive miscreants of weapons. Garbage cans can provide handy cover in emergencies. What else?
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
267 Comments:
best way to survive is to stay on furlough. The city says we can come back for the over time. HA HA HA HA HA HA
Worst comes to worst go Dem. Convention on everyone's ass. Let the lawyers sort it all out.
dont chase pookie when he throws a bottle and runs into the crowd. the biggest thing is to maintain your composure. some assholes will do and try anything to get you pissed off. if you take action...you act as a group.
To reiterate:
Rule 1: Never leave your partners side.
Rule 2: See Rule #1
Rule 3: Dont stand to close to each other. Head must be in constant motion. Keep watch.
GLOVES.
Do some house keeping near your post and pick up everything and anything that is capable of being thrown. Limit exposure to wide open spaces that have some type of cover available quickly. A few candy bars and bottles of water. Forget eating.
DO NOT turn your head when glass is flying at you. It can and will come around your shield and cut you or get into your eyes.
Survivor of all the Bulls Riots in 011. Chicago Ave, Madison & Pulaski, Roosevelt & Pulaski/Kedzie.
Wishing everybody good luck and stay safe.
p.s. Leave the hair gel products alone. If you get hot and sweaty it may run into your eyes causing burning and partial temporary blindness.
Turn the tables.....BRING VIDEO CAMERAS. When this shit is over lets post it ALL on you tube. LET THEM SEE THE SAVAGERY of the Obama supporters!
Oh, and start DRY FIRING every day from now till the 3rd for 5-10 minutes.
QUESTION- (since this will probably be a big problem)
Is there anything in our contract regarding radios being issued to each officer AND can the City make us report to duty anywhere OTHER than our unit of assignment?
---HELLO F.O.P..are you reading?---
The sad thing about this thread is that no one hired after the last Bulls Riot has any clue what to expect. They will probably learn more reading this thread than what was taught to them in the academy.
My only contribution would be to have a decent pair of steel toed shoes. It'll save you from getting broken toes when the concrete blocks come your way.
for those of us that have worked bulls riots, there werent cell phone cameras in 1991, 92, 93 96 97 and 98. remember EVERYTHING you do will be taped by someone
Keep your helmet on!, use cover, never ever let a downed copper stay down, back each other up! For the girls and sissy boys DONOT RUN AWAY UNLESS THE WHOLE "TEAM" IS TOGETHER! Boys and girls you went to college but your not as smart as us the KMA club members in this arena! Lastly Pray! Loke SCC stated bottled water, get snack bars, bring aspirin for anyone that needs it, gum to keep you awake! Find a coffee shop and drink plenty, find bathroom facilities even if it is someones home! Make sure your cell phones are fully charged before leaving home and bring a car charger! Plan an "escape route" for the team! Bring towels nad another novelty bring a small pocket umbrella in case the animals throw bags of shit or urine at you! If they blaze shoot to kill!! God Bless everyone! SCC please try to keep us all updated as quick as you can your a blessing giving us much needed information!
take your plates off of your personal vehicle when driving to and from mustering point. if you get into any shit and you have to take action you don't want it to bite you in the ass. also take your numbers off the front of your helmet. keep your button off of your outer garment. if you start boxing with some asswipe he may try to take it. make sure you spray down wind and not into the wind.
Keep a small backpack near you in the car; something you can throw on
your back if ya have to bail out of the car and abandon it. And have in it what SCC tells ya, more clips/bullets, some food/snacks and lots of water.Assume you'll be on your own for a day or 2.
I HOPE U IRAQI/AFGAN VETS THAT ARE ON THIS JOB ARE ASSISTING THE SEASONED/RESPECTED CPD STREET SGTs
WITH GETTING EVERYONE READY.
The clouted cowards will find a place to hide, like they did in the early 90s..........
My riot bag will contain:
1 family size bag of doritos- cool ranch
1 huge bag of pretzels
1 almond joy, king size
1 6 inch black and white tv
1 ipod
1 dvd player
1 helmet between the seats, upside down, holding popcorn
No contract, short on cops, no hiring, fighting a lawsuit now as it is, so Im not really up for a riot. Maybe I'll toss Da Mare my baton so he can fight off his voting base on his own....
let them riot!!! its contract time PLUS olympic time...CPD is daley's dog, and he kicked it so much that now it won't even bark... we know where we stand in his eyes, let's give him every penny of that one percent raise offer! 19P
Bring your cell phones, bring an extra. I'm sure the radios will be the biggest problem, low batteries, heavy air traffic, and units running amok on various frequencies.
If you feel you're in a perilous situation, or something is looking very bad, do not hesitate to use the cell for a 10-1, not send me a car its no emergency, or any other unnessary words, give the pc01 your address, and any major landmarks and your relationship to them if need be. If the situation affords the opportunity give your name, unit, star, etc and cell number would be great in case we have to contact you back there.
Don't worry about what "others" are going to think, this is not the normal circumstances, by requesting the 101 it alerts the pc01 to the severity. I'm telling you this for your own safety, so that all can go home breathing and in one piece.
Good luck men and women, and may God watch over all of you.
Squad.
What else ? . . .
Go on the Medical.
PISS ON THE CITY.
We STILL don't have a contract.
TAPE your squad car windows - if you are lucky enough to have a squad car.
Make an "X" both inside and outside on the window - will save you a lot of grief later when dude throws a rock through the window.
Bring rubber gloves with you - IT WILL get bloody.
Have lots of Germ-X soap, or other types/brnads.
Have lots of beer in a cooler for after the riots, to enjoy on Thursday.
get some of that large clear packing tape and tape your patrol car windows. In the event that things are tossed at you windows you will not get glass all over you. Don't wear your star and have that rain coat on hand. I worked in the 12th dist for the all the bulls riots and let me tell you we were not ready. Do not let them lock you in the back of that cage car if running four deep. God Bless All and Stay Safe...
go jellon. jellon on the feet that is. remember your puppies will be barking after standing on cold concrete for 12+ hours.
criss cross masking tape on the rear window and rear side windows of your vehicles, not to mention the top half of the front side windows allowing you to crack the windows a 1/3 way open.
if you're on a foot post or stationary post, have "everybody" including those lazy asses walk around within 1/2 block to 1 block of where you're standing. you'll be surprised just how many "stashes" of piled of rocks and bricks and bottles you'll find all put there to hit you with when it gets dark and the time is right.
Smash all the bottles to little itty bitty pieces and pile all the rocks and bricks into a city black garbage can and keep it with you and your partners on your post.
cooler with ice and bottled water and gatorade.
extra clips and ammo and maybe your secondary off duty weapon.
bring your mace and use it.
bring a note pad and pen. if you cant catch them today, remember their faces and plate number for tmrw.
have good cover at your back side so you only have to worry about the front and both sides.
talk it over with the others on your post. if you're on a foot post, come up with a plan B and a spot where you can retreat to temporarily until back up comes.
i've done lots of riots here in Chicago and i'm just trying to help the younger police that haven't seen this kind of shit before.
p.s. to all officers stay safe. jody and dick - you both are clueless and assholes!
Vote McCain. A true American and Hero who actually loves this great country of ours..
seek higher ground.
Anonymous said...
to all my fellow po's, buckle down now. we need to be unified as one now. our safety depends on us working as a team and backing each other up. we hold it down on the 4th and 5th and we will have even more leverage at the negotiating table. an estimated 10,000 media types from all over the world will be on hand at grant park shooting film. if this event goes down without a hitch, the world sees an orderly city and the mayor can prove to the ioc that we can maintain order during a major event. the fop bargaining unit should immediately go to the fifth floor and settle this contract--lets get it done.
10/30/2008 10:34:00 AM
********
Signed,
Missy
1st District
10/30/2008 09:33:00 PM
__________________________________
Hi people, Missy here again.
To the person who used my name STOP it now. For your information, I am in 018 District now. And yes people, working the Michigan Ave detail.
I do not think our beloved mayor made a wise decision to have a rally for Sen. Obama. My uncle, Tom Byrne (rtd) had words with our dear mayor about this. Uncle Tom sadly told me that he thinks our dear mayor has had a major mental breakdown. Uncle Tom also said the mayor will not get a haircut and is "hitting the bottle" everyday. Also, that our beloved mayor talks to himself, refuses to shower, refuses to sleep and has start to soil himself.
I think our mayor needs a little vacation. He is really a "worry Wart". He worries about how he is going to get much needed $$$ for the city to pay us.
Uncle Tom is also losing weight trying to help our mayor with revenue.
Be safe people,
the real "MISSY"-018 district
(Parking ticket guru)
Spend your own money on a couple of the small fire extinguisher sized cans of OC spray. It'll be worth it if the shit really gets thick.....see if you can get them with "stream" rather than "fog" or "mist" nozzles.....the pocket sized "foam" are good too.....Shore Supply in Evanston has all that stuff....
Bull's riots vet here. Tape the windows, stick together and don't forget that they still fear cops coming at them ready to deliver a wooden shampoo. Be aggressive. It'll keep you safe.
Two words noobies
BLANKET C.R.
SCC:
You have, in the last week or so, posted some very important information for the Police that read this blog. I know the public reads this blog, ant this will give them a slight clue to what we are up against for Election Day. I know the media reads this blog, and fuck them! It would be nice if they would just get a clue, but that would be asking too much. The information disseminated is extremely helpful reminders! There are a few things that I think might be helpful for the Officers of the Chicago Police to remember:
This is 2008, NOT 1968! And again, the whole world will be watching!
This Mayor Daley WILL NOT put up with a Police Force out there “kickin’ ass & takin’ names”!
Mayor Daley does not want us wearing our riot gear, carrying M-4’s!
Our Department had infrastructure in place to augment officers in situations such as this, (SOS, and a TRU that was double in size of what it is today) and has seen fit to get rid of it.
We do not have a contract, and the City offered us a 1% raise the last round of negotiations, while the City Council/Aldermen seen it fit to give themselves a 6% “cost of living” increase. (because calling it a “raise” sounds sooo fucking pretentious!) And yet, expect us to risk life and limb to maintain order for the City!
There are Cameras EVERYWHERE! The media will be all over the place, and from what I remember, are NOT our friends! In addition to the fact that Cell phone Cameras are all over the place, and all the civilians who will have cameras / video, and You-Tube is only a click away!
The Departments USE OF FORCE Guidelines!
We have a Superintendent that has shown us proof that he will not put up with Officers giving someone, deserving or not, a well deserved CRACK IN THE FACE. Just ask Officer Cozzi.
We have a Superintendent that has shown us proof that he will not put up with a disciplinary system that does not suit his needs. Just ask Officer Cozzi.
We have a Superintendent that has shown us proof that he will circumvent the above system in order to fuck over some P/O that finds himself on camera, by giving the case to his fed-buddies. Just ask Officer Cozzi. (How much is he paying out of his pocket for lawyers?)
We have a Superintendent that has NEVER been in a event like this (Bulls riots, ’68 convention, TABD event…), but is going to be in charge that night.
Ask yourself a personal question: Do YOU trust Superintendent Weis?
Who will be the next officer on TV? Northside? Southside? Westside? Someone from a unit? A beat cop? Tact/Gangs? How much will the benefit tickets be? That night will not be about who gets elected, It will be about the Cop standing to your right, and the Cop to your left. You watch their back, they watch yours, and ALL OF US go home safe!
As much as I would LOVE to be kicking ass and taking names that night, having fun, it’s the above mentioned things that remind me that it just aint worth risking my job.
And if you listen closely south of Grant Park, you might be able to hear Maggie slurring “Let them eat cake” in between pint glasses of Scotch.
STAY SAFE! It aint ’68 anymore!
garbage cans and/or fallen street signs can act as an impromptu shield..better something than nothing
Never raise your baton over your head to strike another. Looks awful on TV no matter who much the person deserves it. If you do a hard poke with the baton to the front or side of the rib cage, you will hurt the person more. Probably break a rib or two.
Wear steel toe reinforced toe boots. Great for taking out a pair of nuts or knee caps.
Take off any rings on your fingers. So if you have to give a guy a nice punch to the jaw, you don't leave the name of your school or college embedded backwards on his skin. Can be traced back to you. But this applies to any ring that would leave an identifying mark.
Just a few tips from your Uncle Shavedlongcock.
Now something I heard happened a long time ago but I would NEVER recommend this.
In the old days when a cop dealt with assholes at a riotous scene, once the guy is cuffed and secured, they searching officer would place latex gloves on, some how the officer must of placed his latex covered hands into a plastic bag containing jalapeno peppers & the oil that comes with those peppers. A quick search of the cuffed subject's groin area would result in a 5 alarm fire in one's pants about 3 or 4 minutes later. But like I said...Who would do this?
This may sound crazy, but i would like to get a large box of OC units and pass them out to any PO i see on the street, free of charge. Same with those cute little 20 round boxes of 9mm or .40 cal. cartidges. I dont see the city backing up the police like they should. And remember, the most powerful weapon you have is the gas pedal... use it to get out of any dangerous sitution. On foot ? Know when to run, and keep that partner with you ! God bless the police and stay safe
Leave your star in your locker or on an inside garment stars get ripped off and lost bring extra ammo, flashlight and a steel asp baton remeber to have ur star numbers properly affixed to your helmet! Wink Wink make sure your family knows that you may be gone for days and little contact make sure theres plenty of food at home take off all FOP stickers from your vehicle and your wifes etc vehicles dont make them targets
Stay Safe
Semper Fi
Keep your helmet on and the chin strap fastened. Had a half of a brick lobbed up in the air crash on my head. Knocked me to my knees. Broke the face guard off the thing.
Response to past post:
In summary, the Red Squad was an intelligence subversive unit working the national underground, Black Panthers, SDS, Abbey Hoffman, etc. Wroked with FBI. Dangerous long term undercover work you don't see anymore. After the democratic convention of 68 the radical yippies started the law suits and the mayor and super didnt back the squad. Claimed they had no idea what they were doing. BS. Our fine dept hung the squad putting them through personal hell with no union back then. The squad knew what was coming for the 68 convention but our city wouldn't listen.
History always repeats itself. Its coming again on Tuesday. Unfortunately this dept forced you to worry about yourself. So do it. Good luck to all of you.
Retired with little memory left
Who needs riot survival when we have Mobile Strike Force, common SCC the city of Chicago is covered, they should not be called MSF but we should instead refer to theses guys as Allstate cause we are in good hands with MSF.
Thanks for making this post SCC. It can only help. I wasn't sure before, but now after hearing some shitheads on the street I am starting to think this event is going to get out of hand. There is a lot of bashing of the blog, but I love it, and I think this can a resource younger officers can use... at times. There should be more posts helping officers out. No one knows everything.
-5 year "wonder" and still learning.
Dont try to save the world and arrest everybody for every crime you see happening in front of you. It sounds ridiculous, but it turns chaotic so fast that its almost unbelievable and definitely uncontrollable.
Once two of you grab a guy or two for breaking windows of businesses or looting, you know how long you are down for. Its safe time for you, but when all of the police do it at the same time, you end up leaving the rest of your colleagues out there physically fighting for their life.
When they rushed these busineses, there were hundreds. Taking one or two of them out of that type of crowd accomplishes nothing. Sad but true.
It will start with the hollering and guns shots, then the cars start flipping, the store windows start breaking, loads are running everywhere destroying the stores and carrying out everything they can get their hands on, and then the fires start everywhere you turn.
And the more physical you get with them, the more physical they get with you. Its all they know, and only we know that. Its the truth the world doesn't want to hear. We know its hard to look the other way, but try and pick your battles wisely to the best you can.
As bad as it was during the Bulls riots, times are worse -- today everybody is carrying a gun. Good luck to all. Take care of you.
If you carry an ASP break out your old billy club and carry it too. Stuff flys out of your hands sometimes when you get in the middle of a brawl. You or your partner might need that back-up.
Take a spare battery, put in in your pocket. Keep your powder dry.
You are a complete moron if you dont have these items on you come tuesday..................Remember, essentials for ten or more hours on post. Things like water, snacks, bullets, gas masks, helmets and batons.
The incompetence displayed at these pre-rioting meetings is deafening. Unbelievable how fucked this city is if things go to shit. Make sure your family is protected before leaving for your 12-hour (plus) tour. You will not be able to get back to them even if you tried.
Please tell me you're kidding with the comment that don't leave the person with the radio.
Don't you have enough radios for everyone?
PLEASE BE CAREFUL OUT THERE BROTHERS/SISTERS.
NYPD will be watching and praying for you guys/gals next week
rule #3: CAMERAS ARE EVERYWHERE...
NO CONTRACT,1% RAISE OFFER, dALEY,wEIS,oBAMA,ALL HATE YOU!
DO AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE BUT PROTECT EACH OTHER.STAY SAFE.
Riot Survival for Dummies:
Rule 1. If possible, don't go
Rule 2. If you must go, have an exit plan, a safe place for cover, a storefront, police cars, trees, somewhere you won't get trampled
Rule 3. Stay with your partner and/or whoever has the radio
Rule 4. Strength in numbers, stay with groups of PO's, don't do anything alone.
Rule 5. Safeguard your star and hat shield, during Bears celebration in 1985 a few PO's had their stars ripped from their coats
Rule 6. Same with your weapon.
Rule 7. Bring water, gloves and candy or protein bars
Rule 7. Have name tag WEIS on your outer garment
Rule 8. Do not, under any circumstances get photographed with your arm in an upraised position holding a baton about to come down on someone's head. That is sure to make national news and get you indicted. (aka 1968 convention rule)
Rule 9. Assume you are on camera at all times.
Rule 10. See Rule 1
Pre-plan an escape route for your team in case things really go bad.
First priority--your own safety.
Where can I apply to be one of Superintendent Weis' cadre of bodyguards? I figure he'll increase the size of the detail by at least 4 PO's for the 4th of November. Best of all you know we won't be anywhere near the real action. He'll probably spend most of the evening hiding in his office watching MSNBC and having the same warm feeling running up his leg that Chris Matthew's had.
I know we fucked up as a Department over the last few years. But we didn't do anything that bad to deserve this latest group of fools guiding our destiny.
Take out the biggest loudmouth first. Don't do it alone. Take as many officers as you can muster and take the fool down with impunity.
If your senior partner tells you to guard the FRONT door of a an about-to-be looted liquor store while he covers the BACK, it might prove interesting to check the BACK unannounced. He might offer you a fifth of Crown Royale from all the CASES in the bed of his personal pick-up truck.
I'd refuse, shake my head in disbelief and return to the FRONT door with my racked shotgun to "stand guard".
* * * * * * * * * *
Always look up, particularly if you're dumb enough to eat your brown bag lunch in the parking lot of a CHA high-rise PJ.
Obviously, both are hypotheticals.
I went to Southern Illinois so I know what it's like to turn over cars & set fire to things.
I guess on Tuesday I get to see the other side of the coin.
Make sure that your FAMILY is safe,if you are a SOUTHSIDER or WESTSIDER please put your family up in a safe hotel.We DO NOT have the manpower to rescue them,nor do you want to have that worry.ROSEMONT,DESPLAINES,SKOKIE,NORTHBROOK etc are great locations.PLEASE GET THEM OUT!
“Remain calm ! All Is well! All is well!”
Last week at hq, they had a trauma surgeon Speaker, who is also a swat medic explaining a great many scenarios. One of the things this gentleman kept mentioning was a "GO BAG" with basic medical supplies and Israeli Bandages and the importance of them. Yesterday I put mine together, got the bag and bandages from Shore. Sounds like a good idea.
I like the "X" of masking tape on the squads windows. It really does help from getting glass all over you if they smash em out on the to the "festival."
IOD here I come.
Bosses out front. Starting with J-Fed and going by rank with P.O.'s last in line.
if you can, bring xtra radio batteries
Let em riot and burn. That is what insurance is for. This is what Daley wants....it's what he gets.
The first point is paramount. NEVER leave your partner. Always travel in groups of at least two.
They will try and lure you in to chasing them, then a group will be waiting around the corner to beat you. NO HEROES!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!
We are gonna need it.
I am missing something? Or are you guys the most paranoid people on the planet? Prediction - whatever it is that you weirdos think will happen on Tuesday will not happen.
Let them have the streets. No contract, no work. Just show up and stand there. This shitty can burn.
Masking tape X'd across the squad windows to prevent injuries from the glass when the shitheads throw bricks at your car windows. And they will.
Add a towel in case you get gassed or pepper sprayed. Another bottle of water to rinse your eyes and set up an alternate meeting place in case you do get split up. Bull's Riots sucked! For anyone that has not gone through a Bull's riot....this is stuff books are written about. No respect for anything or anyone by the locals. BE CAREFUL!
Jerry Roper, president and chief executive officer of the Chicagoland Chamber of Commerce, said the area would gain massive exposure, and likely political clout, should Obama win.
Political clout? has this guy just moved here from another state! Vote McCain!
What about us citizens? I'm guessing we're on our own, correct?
Take your cell phone with you. That battery won't go dead.
It may be a little late for getting in shape but at least do some stretching before your shift. Being limber will help you if you have to stand all day or run from spot to spot. Don't get separated from your partners and know where you are at all times. This at least should be said, cameras will be everywhere but don't let that stop you from defending yourself or a fellow officer. Deal with the fallout later but survive to deal with it. We will be dealing with MOB mentality where people will do things they wouldn't normally do because they are in a group(I don't mean west or south siders that would do it anyway), we must control that group and prevent things from getting ugly.First aid kits are in order here as well, don't rely on the department to provide one for you and getting an ambulance quickly may not be an option.Stay on your feet and fight if you have to.
Hri Dave McQuire ( Army Ranger) use to teach this at the academy. He use to say 1968 and 2008 and show the parallels of the two riots and the potential for violence this year. He said that we should protect our selves but dont be tempted into a bad situation that there are cell phone cameras and video every where including our own cpd video surveiliance. Like Blackhawk Down we have to be prepared to be out in the streets for days. make sure you have food water(camelback) and ammo. Bring small motorolas too like in Iraq then you can communicate with your teams on voice internal. Never ever leave your partner. Staock up on OC Spray.
WEAR A CUP, KNEE AND ELBOW PADS
Larry, I wish we were kidding. CPD had foot posts all over the west side, 4 cops, one radio. That was about the most scared I'd ever been
Can we hear some Bull riots war stories?
hOW ABOUT FLAMING HOTS AND GRAPE POP? Heard the arab stores were selling out already, dude is getting ready!
If you have any common sense....take that with you.
snethen
I brought different colored tape and changed the numbers on our car!
Bring LOTS of ammo,not boxes but pre-charged magazines.Have a back up gun.
Listen-up boneheads. The same people who are pulling the lever for the Southside Marxist Philospher are the ones who will wip out there video camera, film you in the fight of your life, and gleefully turn their recording over to the US Attorney as evidence in your prosecution. Those who treat policemen as doormats are about to get theirs. The white assholes who ignored the instinct of self-preservation and placed their family in harms way by moving into Westhaven, River West, the Clybourn Corrider, etc. will pay a dear price when the "Bradley Effect" trumpets John McCain into the White House. Its going to happen. Truth will out and Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and the Carolinas will flip for McCain. Contain the rioters to their own neighborhoods and let it burn. From the catbird seat policemen and firemen are witness to the dissolution of our society and the affirmative action merit exempt will not use us as cannon fodder to prevent the inevitable on Tuesday night. And the liberals did this. So to use their own slogan let it "burn baby burn". And as always, save yourself-Vote McCain!!!!
What else ? . . .
Go on the Medical.
PISS ON THE CITY.
We STILL don't have a contract.
Yeah, and fuck over your fellow officers in the process you pussy....
Things handy in riots:
plastic shooting/work glasses in case shield torn from helmet
athletic cup,knee pads
bottles of water..alcohol wipe pads
leather gloves..plastic cuffs
xtra clip...
never raise baton over your head
jab with it
tape on squad windows to hold if bricked
never go alone,stay with partner
let buildings be burned/burgled unless backup on scene
use deadly force ONLY if you or partner in danger
daley/jfed will indict if you are on film
protect yourself,partner, others in that order
everybody has camera
you and partners go home safe
Anonymous said...
WEAR A CUP, KNEE AND ELBOW PADS
10/31/2008 08:52:00 AM
----------------
The cup I can see. The city really pisses me off though, I mean we can and have to wear the turtle riot gear for "white college hippies" protesting downtown, but when we really need the shit they dont want to offend Illegal alien Obama?? If I get hurt?? The city will pay dearly!
Now that we have a real Supt. in charge Im sure everything will run smoothly. We will respect the citizens and do our job. This is a new day or will be after the election. Remember you are servants and now we have new masters.
larry said...
Please tell me you're kidding with the comment that don't leave the person with the radio.
Don't you have enough radios for everyone?
PLEASE BE CAREFUL OUT THERE BROTHERS/SISTERS.
NYPD will be watching and praying for you guys/gals next week
10/31/2008 06:18:00 AM
NO! We have just enough to staff the regular shift.... and our batteries RARELY last 8 hours... And the brain trust at HQ has everyone on 12 hour shifts, cancelled days off, which is fine, but WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH CARS!!!! And you cannot put 4 coppers in a car, cause the back 2 are then locked in the cage.
xtra ammo
XTRA GUN!!!!
Rule #1:
Always stand behind me. You do NOT want to be in front of old BAM BAM when my pistol is shooting faster than a machine gun.
Rule #2:
Follow MY lead.
Rule #3:
Quit looking at my partner.
IS THERE ANY CHANCE WE CAN GET SGT. DAVE SNETHEN OUT OF RETIREMENT JUST FOR THIS EVENT!
I dont know too much about Bs in 008, but most of his team are good people. Come on , we are not allowed to be the real police anymore. being a good copper is all we have left. Bs needs to lay off and manage from the desk .
anonymous said...
What about us citizens? I'm guessing we're on our own, correct?
10/31/2008 08:32:00 AM
WHAT, SUDDENLY YOU NEED US??? SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT EVERY TIME YOU GLARE AT A COP FOR PARKING ON A HYDRANT, OR FOR YOUR TERRIBLE ATTITUDE WHILE YOU GET A DESERVED TICKET, OR FOR YOU OVERALL 'YOU WORK FOR ME' ATTITUDE, OR YOUR 'IT SAYS NO PARKING BUT IT'S JUST FOR A MINUTE, I'M SO IMPORTANT!" SCHTICK. GUESS WHAT? MANY OF YOU ARE GOING TO LEARN THE HARD WAY THAT MAYBE IT PAYS TO TREAT US WITH RESPECT.... BECAUSE THE FREE COFFEE, THE FREE PARKING, AND THE PERKS BALANCE OUT THE FEW NIGHTS OF HELL THAT YOU FOLKS CANNOT DEAL WITH YOURSELVES. YES, WE WORK FOR YOU, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN A TERRIBLE BOSS. NOW IT'S RECKONING DAY. WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN OUT OF A SENSE OF DUTY, BUT YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN FOR THE MOST PART. WE HAVE BEEN SHORT FOR SEVERAL YEARS WITH NO PUBLIC OUTCRY. IF YOU THINK I'M STICKING MY NECK OUT FOR YOU FOLKS, YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN. HAVE A NICE DAY. a tip- whittle a sharp stick, attach a marshmallow, and let it roast. Your burning car adds a wonderful zing to the palate.
If you have it, a snub nose or any other revolver as a secondary weapon loaded with with shot-shells. No ballistics, mostly non-lethal, and hurts like hell. Load your duty weapon with the most lethal ammo available to you for your service weapon.
Guys please stay safe. Many animals will use this rally as an excuse to riot.
Wear plenty of protective gear, bring backup items and plenty of ammo. Clean your gun and make sure your weapon is fully functioning. Have a backup weapon as well.
Lastly, does anyone want to pitch in and we can buy our police either some mace and hand them out? Even water and food? Let me know.
always keep moving while on a post, even if it's just a step or 2 to each side. moving targets are harder to hit. stay alert.
The answer to all your force multiplier needs:
http://www.betaco.com/index.asp
I know we fucked up as a Department over the last few years. But we didn't do anything that bad to deserve this latest group of fools guiding our destiny.
10/31/2008 07:04:00 AM
Hey asshole, FUCK YOU! "We" didn't do anything. SOME people did. THOSE people got stripped and indicted already. FUCK OFF, RAT
Anonymous said...
Bosses out front. Starting with J-Fed and going by rank with P.O.'s last in line.
10/31/2008 08:00:00 AM
I second that!
Anonymous said...
What about us citizens? I'm guessing we're on our own, correct?
10/31/2008 08:32:00 AM
YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!
Thank Daley and Obama for us when this is all over.....
everyone should check the spy store at fullerton and western. U can get pen cameras, etc that can be used by US to turn the tables on the rats. Consider it. Who cares that G.O. says we cant. You want that or some BS allegation against you. Time we start protecting OUR RIGHTS and show the world the truth
Rule 7. Have name tag WEIS on your outer garment
Best one yet. And if you really want to look like him, tape a chrome bumper from a '57 Chevy to your helmet.
When people told me the K9 written exam was fixed I laughed and said "no they don't do that shit anymore" then I studied my reading material for about a week and had the 3+ orders and the bulletin down pat. Went and took the test saw it was 30 questions multiple choice and smiled, I knew every answer except one I know I answered 29 correctly I was 100% sure if it in my heart, I call the FOP and they tell me I got a 26!!! This is absolute bullshit!! The test results were fixed to move clout hack worthless f**cks up to the next phase fuck this department and it's deceptive ways all I ever wanted to do was be K9 and it was ripped away from me wrongfully I hate this department and am truely contemplating leaving. Had to vent how depressing that they do this to people. I should have listened to everyone and not wasted my time.
Northside,
Didn't Commander Simms partner you up with "BIG RICK" during the MLK riots?
three or more pos
no chase ever,
radio per man
star in pocket
"Jones" name tag
per set your plastic cuffs and have plenty spares
cell ph
one cpd radio per man
never ride in cage rear
make plans 1,2,3,4,5, etc.
have a piss location nearby make sure they will stay open or locate alternates,
spare oc spray, city won't use theirs in crowd
have asp, baton WILL break
DO NOT rely upon sgt, lt, or supvs.
they will run on you
they will also forget after it's over...bad orders, etc.
rain gear
remember if you wear it on outside you'll lose it.
use pockets
2 handkerchiefs
bottle of bleach if you have car nearby, aids, cuts, etc..
water in car and emergency piss container, bosses never care about your body needs
sit as much as possible up front, don't be "cool " and stand all day
light em if you smoke & spares
cooler in car trunk
wear glasses, get retainers or tie them on
no jewlery, watches will get snatched
advil in envelope in pocket, put in plastic baggy
cooler in trunk of car, lots of ice
i would have , now, in hindsight, have small digital camera, record the crowd.For your defense later
small note pad
pre plan last stand location
if cuffs have name , initials, or star # on, leave home, don't use
if you are a sgt, lead your men as a unit, don't allow them split up
lead, up front
when shit hits fan make independent sound decisions in light of "dangerous orders"
Obama sticker over shield #'s on helmets
, placed by a crowd celebrant of course
clear your posts of debris and objects that can be used against you
radio check the zone upon station, know city wide frequs.
good luck
Ok, I'm just coming back from a nice long furlo in 2 days(I know, great timing!). I haven't had any contact with the department at all while I was gone. So can anyone tell me....is everyone on 12 hour days or just tact/gang, special units etc...? I'm just a lowly beat guy and haven't heard a thing yet.
Sergeants should study "Infantry squad tactics" manuals. Don't count on air support. Recommended is "squad column, fire teams abreast."
Your job is to support each other. No diving into the crowd to rescue the folk from Ohio, Wisconsin, and IOWA I read are coming to "see history made."
Stay off the news, batons to the gut only, unless o' course, there's an available kneecap?
Anonymous said...
I am missing something? Or are you guys the most paranoid people on the planet? Prediction - whatever it is that you weirdos think will happen on Tuesday will not happen.
10/31/2008 08:13:00 AM
Stuff your predictions Jody Weis you moronic dumbbell! What if what YOU think will not happen DOES happen?!
In 1937 Berlin, despite warnings from "alarmists," many Jews said that Hitler was a stupid little man who would never amount to anything. Ultimately he caused the deaths of more than 100 million people.
In 2001, passengers sat quietly on three planes predicting that everything would be okay until they were atomized in the WTC and Pentagon.
Go drink your Kool-Aid!!
Go to the bathroom as soon as you feel the need...cirumstances permitting of course. Don't wait until later cuz you may not get a chance.
8:32:
No, we're not on our own.
As for myself, Smith and Wesson have agreed to keep me company throughout this nightmare. CPD is not in the business of babysitting.
But, yeahhhhh, if you call the cops for loud music or barking dogs or fights in your alley, they may not be able to respond if they're dealing with a riot in Grant Park.
Blame your mayor.
Shorthanded department, and this cocksucker invites "a million" people to come riot downtown.
Stay safe, officers.
The people with brains in this city SUPPORT YOU FULLY.
#1 - Tape the squad windows.
#2 - Once the shit hits the fan - put on your raincoat - it offers protection.
#3 - Bring a backpack w/some essentials. Water, snacks, spare cell battery, spare radio battery (if ya can score one), asprin, 1st aid kit, OC spray, ammo.
#4 - WEAR YOUR HELMET!!!
#5 - Despite most of our hunter instincts - DO NOT let yourself get baited into a crowd. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad things happen.
#6 - As others have said, behave as if your every move is being recorded, cuz chances are that you are. We are CPD - we know how to protect ourselves and each other.
#7 - If given time, find the ins & outs of your posts and possible threat areas.
This isn't BS kiddies - this is the REAL DEAL. The City knows it - and are sending us out to war without reinforcements.
*Bulls Vet here, with the busted helmet to prove it.
I find it absolutely unbelievable that you do not have a radio each! We (Metropolitan Police) would no more go out without one than fly in the air - never mind in a riot situation. Hope all goes well and it just proves to be doom mongering.
I truely believe if Obama wins there will be only minor problems on south and west sides, maybe one or two incidents leaving Grant Park If he loses, because we stole it from them!, we will have major problems. Stay together!
Bring extra hair gel, black gloves, and you urban types, an extra blue tooth (the one blingin' in yo ear may go dead).
By the way, if someone throws a molotov cocktail or another object at you, I can't see why you can't split their head open with your baton. Perhaps that will make them think twice about doing it again.
In the first Bulls riot, I was working Tact. We had a full 4 man tact unmarked car with our Sgt. We drove very slowly down a very crowded residential street, wall to wall with revelers. An M/1 appeared out of the crowd, and fired 6 shots into our car doors,in about 4 seconds, and disappeared back into the crowd. Luckily nobody hit.
Later that night we were out chasing Looters with some patrolmen, for about the 20th time.. A P.O. from the District was next to me and he went down. It was very dark, and we thought he got hit with a rock by an unk. assailant. When he got to the E.R. it was learned that he was shot in the face by a small caliber bullet. I've been from the West-side to the South side in the Bulls riots. It doesn't matter where you are, anything can happen. Keep alert at all times, even if you have to drink 5 gallons of coffee. Piss anywhere, nobody cares. Don't wear your star on your outer garment, they will steal it if they can. Keep your helmet visor down. Wear steel toed shoes if you have them, carry a backup flashlight. Wear leather gloves if you have em, etc. And, if you are in danger of death or great bodily harm, use your firearm until the threat has ceased. Remember that property is replacable, your life, or your fellow officers life is not. Better a thousand stores and buildings burn or get looted, than even 1 of our officers dies or gets seriously injured. Remember also, WE HAVE NO CONTRACT DUE TO CITY HALL NOT GIVING A RAT'S ASS ABOUT US.
YOUNG ONES, EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED, AND SURVIVE...
OLD CPD. WHEELGUNNER
Anonymous said...
What about us citizens? I'm guessing we're on our own, correct?
10/31/2008 08:32:00 AM
guess so, thank your mayor keep voting for him and the 50 morons! Advice: Buy ammo get a shotgun and protect your home front! "WElcome to the wild west"!
in the future coppers will be wearing t-shirts that read. " obama08 I stole on your old man" For you non westside or southside po po's "stole on" means to get hit or punched
For the riot dummies, can the bullshit talk about how bad you've been on the street and pucker up:
1. bring a towel to wrap around your neck. It keeps broken glass from going down the back of your collar and can be used to wipe sweat and moisture from your helmet visor and face.
2. rain-x both sides of your helmet visor. If you don't have rain-x or it fogs during an emergency, use spit like scuba divers do.
3. dump the asp. You need your solid wooden stick.
4. like others said, stay near a guy with a radio. Stay in groups of 3 minimum. While 2 are dealing with an asshole the 3rd should be watching the crowd.
5. in crowds stay away from the buildings so you're not pinned up against a wall or pushed through a window. Curbs are there to help you form a line.
6. make sure your pistol is secure. If you're wearing a jacket or sweater, wear it over your holster.
7. don't wear the sweater. It absorbs pepper gas.
8. wear your lightweight jacket and spray it with fabric protectorant the day of deployment.
9. put a 1/2 dozen baby wipes in a zip-lock sandwich bag to clean your face of gas residue.
10. wear good gloves but be sure you can handle your pistol.
11. look up! for thrown objects, snipers, etc.
12. don't get too close to cover. You want to be able to see over and around it with ease in case a crowd is surging on you.
13. use clear masking tape with the strings inbedded inside for your car windows so you can unobstructed.
14. now's the time to load and carry a couple of extra magzines of ammo.
15. carry at least 1/2 doz flex-cuffs per cop.
16. a small jar of Vick's Vapo-rub does wondeers. A little smeared under each nostril will help you breathe easier, keep you alert, and lessen the amount of pepper that could get in your nose.
17. never run "into" a crowd, always run "at" a crowd, like you were a bulldozer. You and your team don't want to get enveloped.
18. squad cars are very poor cover options because they are "missle magnets", ie thrown objects, bullets, etc.
19. stay hydrated and bring small bags of nuts and beef jerky. You can get instant energy from them.
20. Be VERY careful, always.
Signed: Roscoe Rules
I got sprayed in the Academy (Thanks Larry!) and it wasn't fun. One of my classmates snuck a bottle of Bio-shield in and it instantly relieved the eye burn.
You can buy it online here.
Throw it in your Go-Bag!
Stay safe brethren...
Just some common sense.
The deployment orders should be out soon, if not already.
Let's keep them to ourselves until this gets rehashed on next Wed or Thur. For how serious everyone should take this, it's for our own protection.
Supervisors in the Frontlines, Merit-Clout Appointees in the Front row....
Do only what you have to. I don't think Daley expects us to do much anyway. He'd rather call in the National Guard, to keep the lawsuits to the City down. So just be safe and stick together, and remember that the Devil will be on the loose....
Also, be prepared to get moved to a different part of the City at any time. Many areas where you will have No Idea what street you are on if you go running off after someone like a fool.
funny things is,i went through all the bulls riots and had a ball. we were never afraid, because we were the real police,today i would be afraid of the little tricks standing next to me, not the asshole causing the problems.I/F
From a Captain who lived the Bulls riots:
1) To reiterate - NEVER LEAVE YOUR PARTNERS!
2) This must work as a team to stay safe. Therefore take direction from your Sgt, but work as a team. The Sgts may need some help keeping it together, forget that BS about "let them earn their pay" blah, blah, blah.
3) Don't try to lock-up every offender. The goal here is YOUR personal safety. Ideally, you'll have a skirmish line, an arrest team behind them to get an offender and drag his or her ass back to the line. Don't chase offenders from your point of safety.
4) Remember the CAMERAS people!
5) Call for help if you need it.
6) And remember, YOU MAY GET HURT. Don't panic, it won't be a serious injury, but you'll be pissed and embarassed. Just deal with it. It'll be in your greater interest to do so.
I'd be out there with you if they'd let me. God Bless the men and women of the CPD.
Anonymous said...
I am missing something? Or are you guys the most paranoid people on the planet? Prediction - whatever it is that you weirdos think will happen on Tuesday will not happen.
10/31/2008 08:13:00 AM
Better safe than sorry... I think your soy latte is ready, hurry along.
Anonymous said...
What about us citizens? I'm guessing we're on our own, correct?
10/31/2008 08:32:00 AM
Yep! Go to Indiana, buy a gun, lots of ammo, some water... See ya next friday, after its all over!
everybody wear a beavis and butthead halloween mask and put a weis name tag on. then jody can respond to the 100's if not thousands of frivolous cr #'s that we get each year.
the districts and areas BETTER have an officer assigned to each entrace of the ENTIRE parking lot where all our personal vehicles are parked unmanned while we're out on the street fighting for our lives.
the 2nd bulls championship in 92 was by far the worst. a 10-1 every five minutes all night long. radios all went dead. we made so many arrests you had to right your star # on dude's arm and then after your 15 hour tour, you had to go back to the station to process all of them.
charge OBAMA for every arrest processing and overtime due to his losing rally held in Grant Park.
NEVER LEAVE YOUR PARTNER, AND WHEN THE SHIT HITS THE FAN HANDLE YOUR BUSINESS AND GO HOME SAFE TO YOUR FAMILIES.
Keep your back to the wall and let the beast do what it does best. Let the city burn. Police only protect Police and dont get hurt.
Giv that idot shortshanks daley exactly what he deserves.
the fop bargaining unit should immediately go to the fifth floor and settle this contract--lets get it done.
What do you mean?? The FOP is on the 5th floor every day right underneath daley's desk. FOP wont do shit.
If all else fails.... put on an Obama pin.
I am missing something? Or are you guys the most paranoid people on the planet? Prediction - whatever it is that you weirdos think will happen on Tuesday will not happen.
10/31/2008 08:13:00 AM
you probably were rooting for the bulls to win too. you must have never ventured into the ghetto or to voting registration sites, it looks like the line at the dope spot, bust outs and gangbangers signing up. these are the ones who cause the problems...Obama's wife grew up in the projects, you don't think those that are from them won't consider her one of their people and celebrate the only way they know how. Maybe you live in utopia, so go close the gate on your white picket fence, put the suv in the garage, and remember if the shit hits the fan in your never-never land, you are on your own, good luck because us weirdos will be doing our job for those who don't pay taxes in the ghetto or downtown, the only place daley cares about.
DO NOTHING LET THEM RIOT!! PAY BACK FOR OUR SUPT BEING POLITICAL AND BACKING OBAMMA! DONT JAM YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY!!
GIVE IT BACK TO DALEY THE WAY HE WANTS IT! ITS THERE DAY TO DO WHATEVER NO ARRESTS NO ACTION LIMITED RESPONSE
THE SYSTEM WILL IMPLOUDE!
Remember Obamma and Daley will be taxing your big fat overtime check
SEMPER FI
Do what L.A. did ...
They figured it was cheaper for the city to lock all of their "special units" up in an amphitheater and keep them away from the crowd.
Then,
let the riots take over, loot, burn, and destroy.
At least there were no civil suits against L.A.
This is right up Daley's thinking
Here's an example of chicago leadership you can expect.
1st Bulls riot.
severely underplanned and unexpected???
Leader stated:
All units remove their riot helmets and lock them in secure areas, we do not want this to appear to be something out of the 60's.
During the riots and during the bottle / rock throwing this announcement was made to all units
Retrieve and don riot gear, specifically helmets.
To little to late.
If you ask me, I'll tell you the MSF is going in on a suicide mission. They have no idea what type of violence is going to come their way if Obama loses.
Word is the gas teams are not allowed to be used downtown. The MSF have to leave all their gear behind and run back to the squad cars if a riot ensues. Like the mob will give them a chance? Obama wants the police to look friendly and not intimidating. Sounds like the new MSF is going to have to deal with 1 million. Yep, you losers in MSF are in for a world of misery. BTW, I lost respect for each and every SOS guy who returned!
REMEMBER: You volunteered for the shit! Now it's time to eat it!
-former 153/SWAT
Once again, history repeats itself...
Bulls riots 1-5
All special units to scene of United Center, peotect the loop, the mayor, and $$$businesses.
In reality:
Tact teams overwhelmed in the districts, all on foot posts, lack of radios, several P.O.'s shot
Fire unable to respond due to "Gridlock"
Roaming crowds loot and destroy along major business sections in districts.
10-1 calls unanswerable.
Why???
Only bosses, sgts, lts, and above had roaming vehicles.
Get ready boys and girls, when the four of you see that rushing wall of animals approaching you and see your intersection is at a gridlock
remember you were warned.
That was when we had a full employment compliment and a real SO unit, and old timers with balls.
during the bulls fest I recall that the locals used the rooftops to drop bricks and bottles on the pos.
secure the ways up to the roofs behind your businesses if you have time.
would doubling up with another expired bullet proof vest in the front stop a rifle round? I'm sure it can't hurt right?
citizens will pack a vehicle with people.
some cars had the windows down with a person sitting out of each window, hoods, tops, and full packed trunks driving around shooting and throwing whatever they could.
when the traffic came to a halt
they all bailed out and became human cockroaches in the city
Don't forget, an IOD at the end of the tour. Emergency rooms will be packed. Long long wait (all while on the clock)!
A buddy of mine in MSF says they haven't trained using the new riot batons. Did you know they are just sitting in boxes. The excuse is they won't fit on the duty belts. WTF? When is the City going to allow coppers to be coppers? And no, he isn't a 3 yr wonder. He WAS SOS for over 4 yrs and knows the shit is about to hit the fucking fan!!!!!!!! GI was right when he said fuck you about ever returning???...you guys are fucked!
Fillmore Ranger 1st bulls riot here (actually all the bulls riots) one big problem we had on Chicago Ave is we would chase east on chicago and the beast would go through the t alley and come around behind us (Thanks nate gibson) bricking us from behind so cover those t alleys also remember to look up the beast was on the roof tops throwing m-80s and bottles down on us. Easily half our watch was on IOD the next week with broken bones and glass in eyes. My partner with three years on the job went on disability and never came back after being struck in the shooting hand (luv ya margie) tape up those windows stick together mooch off those store owners they want the protection and you need the food and water also keep the shield down on you helmet even in the cars. The biggest weapon you have is the one you drive dont be afraid yo use it to save yourself or another officer no matter what it takes!!!! You young guys dont be scared it was actually kinda fun.
God Bless you all and I'll be there with ya (at 12 hrs time and a half)Obamas spreadin that wealth already.
Remember everyone has video cameras and is looking to blame the police (meaning you) for any problems that occur. Do not put yourself in a position where you have to defend your actions later. Do not chase assholes. Stay safe and look for the humor in the situation.
#1 will always be to make sure you and your partner go home the same way you came to work. Fuck this city. They hate us so now we have some leverage and its time for payback. Let this city burn and enjoy the show as long we all go home safe
Will this "riot control" book be placed on the same shelf at Hdqtrs as the other reference material used by Weis, Masters and Hamilton?
"Assuming Command for Dummies?"
Let it burn to the ground. Stand by and video tape Obama Bin Laden's voters doing what they do best. It's time the liberals get what they deserve. I hope all the dumb ass liberal white people who come down to Grant Park get a FACE FULL of reality. Hopefully this event will be the one that gives Shortshanks Daley much deserved STROKE. I am going to give what Daley offered us: 1 Percent of me effort, that's it.
SCC,
I worked all of the Bulls Riots, many of them while assigned on the West Side. Here are some of the things that seemed to work for us.
1. If you are on a fixed post near a liquor store or construction site try to get all the throwable items policed up in advance. Also have trash containers sitting outside of stores brought inside.
2. Try to avoid retreat in the event of an advancing crowd. Stand your ground, and respond appropriately by ghetto standards, we actually threw bottles back at one crowd.
3. If you do have to pull back do it safely being sure to bring the entire team along.
4. Never leave your team to chase someone. We actually heard of gangbangers stringing barbed wire across gangways to hurt pursuing officers.
5. Be sure the guy/gal on the radio is good on the raido and dependable in a pinch. The RTO is the lifeline of the team.
6. Never drive a vehicle into a crowd of people.
7. If force is needed act swiftly and deliberately.
8. Do not use your cuffs (if you want see them again) on a suspect to be transported. Get some flex cuffs, or large electrical ties.
9. Wear kneepads under your pants and have a good set of gloves handy.
10. Have an extra flashlight (or battery), ammo, OC, and some snacks and water available.
11. Make sure your weapon is clean and ready for service (important with automatics out there now).
12. Use your helmet, bring your raincoat, wear your vest.
13. If riding in a vehicle 4 deep ensure that the safety locks are off on the back doors. When bailing out of the car frontseat officers should be sure that backseat officers make it out. This was a huge issue in 92 with the old box Chevys, lots of cops got locked in the backs of cars, eventually they gave us handles for the windows so that we could roll them down and let ourselves out.
14. Have some fun, but be safe. (It can be very fun to work a riot.)
15. Check the money box, Christmas is coming!!!
Good luck to all
duck & cover mark the money box and remember no matter how it goes down we will be the fall guy so keep your own safe
to the new guys the less time you have on the job the less disability coverage you have sit back let them burn the city down & then go home & have a beer
your only concern should be that of yourself and the officers around you. don't let a crowd separate you. DO NOT chase rioters, they are running away from you so don't sweat them. if the looting starts in the areas you are familiar with then let them loot. your safety is still priority. property can be replaced. use the baton as you were taught to under normal cumstances of which this will not be. if your charged at and it fear it doesn't make a difference how you use it or where you use it or how high it is. that applies to only the chargers. media creeps aren't going to be in the chargers line so they don't anyway. its only a rag sheet to us.
Bad part of what may occur is the planning. if things go up, so do the plans. again your safety is among your other officers. do what must be done to make it home later on. the essentials you all talk about sound great. but its also extra baggage to carry and weigh you down. watch the officers alongside of you for they are your the best help you may get at the time.
did the 68 riots, west side burning, division street projects so I have been there. This rally I will miss, but wish you all the best.
retired guy
Perish the thought that something will happen before, during or after this rally.
But........who is going to be the leaders of it. the same incompetent exemps from the Taste ?
Well Shortshanks notified downtown business people to let the help out early, invited more to attend with less then what we have. I wonder if the rally goers are going to shop on Michigan ave, State and Astor areas in their typical manner. Shortshanks invited ya all so come on down. what's the perimeter regarding his house ??
stay safe people
OFF Topic. Doesn't ADS Ralph Price resemble Barry Obama? Not only do they have the same physical stature (frail, short cropped hair), they both talk a good game with never having achieved any results.
SCC: can you do a story on the Bulls riots, what happened in them, etc? I know lots of people may wanna know more about what happened in '92, or was it '93, or '94 or....
CSP IS Watching & Thinking Of Our Brothers & Sisters In Shitcago Next Week.
Take Up/Break Up Anything That Can Be Thrown At Ya,Water/Food Snacks/Weapons/Proper FIREPOWER For A 12hr Nightmare For Sure.
MOST OF ALL!!
STICK TOGETHER & STAY TOGETHER
The Stuttering Prick & JPUD Don't Give A Fuck About You!
The CSP Does!!
Duct tape in a big "X" on all vehicle windows. Keeps all the glass in place. It will still shatter, but wont be a million pieces in your head.
Why are we hiring outside consultants for this. Aren't we paying a command staff over $160,000 each to come up with the brilliant solutions? I mean they were promoted because of their excellent policing strategies that have worked in the past. Come on people, it's 2008. There is no more clout hiring anymore.
You are a complete moron if you dont have these items on you come tuesday..................Remember, essentials for ten or more hours on post. Things like water, snacks, bullets, gas masks, helmets and batons.
10/31/2008 05:47:00 AM
Don't forget your own personal porta-potty since they apparently are not providing any.
Keating will have a roll call at the 1st district. Then he will hop on his segway down Madison to OEMC. There he will have everything under control. He will be at OEMC watching HBO...i mean the pod cameras and control the situation there. So we have nothing to worry about. Leave the helmets and batons at home.
I am missing something? Or are you guys the most paranoid people on the planet? Prediction - whatever it is that you weirdos think will happen on Tuesday will not happen.
10/31/2008 08:13:00 AM
HEY ASSHOLE, go back home to Oak Park and STFU !
Anonymous said...
I am missing something? Or are you guys the most paranoid people on the planet? Prediction - whatever it is that you weirdos think will happen on Tuesday will not happen.
10/31/2008 08:13:00 AM
Ok...let me guess..channel 2 or is it 5. Oh it must be 7.
Please stay off this blog already!!!
have as much of your gear on you as possible. you may not make it back to your car.
Best tape to use to cover windows may be clear packing tape, you have to drive remember.
Weather report now available from weatherstudio.com for Tuesday
MOSTLY SUNNY
HIGH: 66 degrees
LOW: 50 degrees
We are fucked.
Maybe we can have the non-ticketed yuppies come early, bring down their picnic baskets, blankets and chardonnay and have them lay down as a human shield around the fenced off area.
If attacked by a mob, they will have to run tripping over their picnic and baby baskets.
Star, Id, Money in an inside shirt pocket under your vest. Also remember a PENCIL, pens can run out of ink or may not write depending on what position you are in when attempting to write but a PENCIL always works. Put a clean set of clothes in the trunk of your personal vehicle in case you have to change before going home. You don't want to have your personal vehicle detailed as a result. Tape the windows of squad cars both inside and out. Extra cell phone and flashlight batteries. Keep your head up and never stand still, a moving target is much harder to hit.
RE
ray "bam-bam" wilke said...
Rule #1:
Always stand behind me. You do NOT want to be in front of old BAM BAM when my pistol is shooting faster than a machine gun.
Rule #2:
Follow MY lead.
Rule #3:
Quit looking at my partner.
10/31/2008 10:09:00 AM
____________________
Too funny Bam-Bam!
As for your partner, many people haven't seen that much silicone in one setting.
Do not wear your star on your outer garment, it will disappear. secondly, i will be leaving my wallet in my locker and letting others do the same. Don't want Pookie knocking on my door after he steals my DL. STAY SAFE
Some really good advice out there. I think that the best is to not get baited by some jerk looking for a fight and stay together. Communication is not CPD's strongpoint so you will have to think on your feet and rely on yourself.Bulls riots they came up to us just trying to push our buttons. Ignore the crap.
Also important to know where you are and to remove all items that can be used to harm you.
Think survival. Think team. Take care of each other. Once you are on that post 35th ST has forgotten about you. You are on your own. Be careful. Be vigilant. Be safe.
PREVIEW AVAILABLE FOR OBAMA EVENT!
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/16200/
Welcome to the U.S.S.A.
UNITED SOCIALIST SOCIETY of AMERICA
the districts and areas BETTER have an officer assigned to each entrace of the ENTIRE parking lot where all our personal vehicles are parked unmanned while we're out on the street fighting for our lives.
----------------------------------
i agree, i already suggested to my captain, it was kind of met with a shrug. i hope he takes me seriously, or i'll be spending a lot of time in the lot coding out jobs from the parking lot. i dont give a fuck. give me the cr's, i'm saving 100s of officers cars.
Dont let the talking heads tell you tht you can not call a 10-1.. your need it CALL IT
"Anonymous said...
I am missing something? Or are you guys the most paranoid people on the planet? Prediction - whatever it is that you weirdos think will happen on Tuesday will not happen."
It's called "History". WTO - Riot, Rodney King - Riot. Bulls Win - Riot X 3. Taste of Chicago, shooting at or near every year. Last year - 1 Dead, 1 injured - Gunshots. Bud Biliken Parade - shootings, fights all day long every year. Obama win or lose - Riot. You would hope your police department learns from history. We prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NEW ON THE JOB OR RELATIVELY NEW: do not back down from being the police. You are told in the academy to fear CR's and lawsuits. Well, your survival may depend on you being able to act as the police. If shit comes down either back up your fellow officers or GET THE FUCK OUT OFF YOUR POST!!! If you are afraid and let fear take over to the point that you jeopardize the life of a fellow officer, YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING THE POLICE!
Maybe nothing will happen, but if it does and if you need to act, then fucking ACT! I have trained enough pussies who wear a star. Don't let your fears be a reason some copper gets hurts.
Concerning being on your post, I recommend small snacks or hard candy that you can put in your pockets. You will be glad for the energy boost.
Maybe nothing will happen, but if you want peace, prepare for war.
And again, for you new guys, DO NOT BE AFRAID TO ACT AS THE POLICE IF YOU HAVE TO!!!! Your life or your partners depends on it. Fuck J-Fed and Shortshanks. Some of us will not have the opportunity to hide, so be prepared!
DO NOT, DO NOT, DO NOT LEAVE YOUR PARTNERS!!!!!
remember there are cameras every where. Don't loose your job or go to prison because the heathens riot. stay together and stay safe. let's not see you on the news wednesday and at call back thursday.
Please stay safe out there, folks.
There appears to be a substantial chance you'll end up wishing you'd faced a Bulls riot.
It's a damn shame that you guys get such shitty training at the academy. They should put the people in charge of training in the front lines. Who are these heros anyway. Let me guess, I bet they have CLOUT.
Bring a Mag lite (the long ones), since they can be used for not only for lighting but also for self-defense.
Overall, they are a better flash-light than the new "short" flash-lights that only last for an hour and is rumored to cause burns and fires.
*Note: I am not sure on this but the last I heard on this, the classic Mag lites were banned from the CPD but it would be an nice addition to the suggested supply list.
Be safe and may everyone go home safe.
I WANT TO BE ON SGT. A.Z.'S TEAM. THAT DUDE WAS GREAT ON THE GARFIELD PARK DETAIL AND GREAT WHEN HE CAME ACROSS ROOSEVELT RD INTO THE 10TH DIST.
LET A.Z. LEAD THE CHARGE!!!
HOPE IT ALL GOES UP. LETS GET READY TO ROCK AND ROLL!!
For gods sake carry extra OC and several extra magazines... or speedloaders if you are KMA revolver police !!! Get out to the gunshop quck !
If you got to go to the bathroom, whip it out and piss around the corner.
IOD baby!!! Ill be watching the festivities from the 18 inch black and white at TRs!!!
Anonymous said...
What about us citizens? I'm guessing we're on our own, correct?
10/31/2008 08:32:00 AM
Sorry to say it Sir/Ma'am, but you will be on your own.
We are so short of police officers and equipment, we'll have our hands full defending each other and where ever they decide to put us.
This city keeps electing democrats, who need money for pet projects.
We have about thirty police officers retire a month. We have hired about 75-125 officers in the last two or three years. The city says, that we are not under staffed. I'm no math major, but 720 officers retire in two years...we hire 75-125...I'm pretty sure we're down quite a few officers. Truthfully, I don't think we hired any officers the year before that either.
So keep voting Democratic.
Anonymous said...
I brought different colored tape and changed the numbers on our car!
10/31/2008 09:43:00 AM
This is just plain brilliant!
Now add name tags that say J-Fed and we're all set.
"When people told me the K9 written exam was fixed I laughed and said "no they don't do that shit anymore" then I studied my reading material for about a week and had the 3+ orders and the bulletin down pat. Went and took the test saw it was 30 questions multiple choice and smiled, I knew every answer except one I know I answered 29 correctly I was 100% sure if it in my heart, I call the FOP and they tell me I got a 26!!! This is absolute bullshit!! The test results were fixed to move clout hack worthless f**cks up to the next phase fuck this department and it's deceptive ways all I ever wanted to do was be K9 and it was ripped away from me wrongfully I hate this department and am truely contemplating leaving. Had to vent how depressing that they do this to people. I should have listened to everyone and not wasted my time."
STFU! You screwed up on 4 questions...get over it!
Grow up, momma's boy. You'll get there. YOU GOT WHAT YOU GOT. THE TESTS WERE GRADED ON THE SCANTRON WHEN EVERYONE FINISHED. IF YOU DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT AROUND FOR YOUR SCORE, SHAME ON YOU. INSPECTORS WERE EVERYWHERE, INCLUDING IN THE OFFICE WHERE THE GRADING OCCURRED. EVERYONE CAN'T
(AND WON'T) SCORE A PERFECT 100. IS IT TOO HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE TO ADMIT THEY MADE SOME GODDAMN MISTAKES ON AN EXAM?
Make sure that your FAMILY is safe,if you are a SOUTHSIDER or WESTSIDER please put your family up in a safe hotel.We DO NOT have the manpower to rescue them,nor do you want to have that worry.ROSEMONT,DESPLAINES,SKOKIE,NORTHBROOK etc are great locations.PLEASE GET THEM OUT!
10/31/2008 07:36:00 AM
Sincerely
Your Career Burglar :)
During the Bull's "celebrations" I saw a copper with a name tag "Eatme." Hilarious...
Same o same 0
History repeats,
we do not want you to wear protective equipment...
police state...
any copper suffering from a bruise, slight scratch, PTSD (post traumatic stress disoder, etc...
Hit the medical because it's YOUR life , not the citys.
You were cannon fodder!
Keep the rich away from the poor.
Show Daley he does not have complete control over your mind and body...
Post Traumatic Stress is caused when , in the performance of your duty ,you are stressed beyond your emotional capacity to endure. You are stressed beyond training, and normal human conditions.
Go see a DR. get pills for anxiety and stay off because you can't fire a weapon while on drugs. BUT remember you are able to bounce back...in time and qualify AS WELL AS PERFORM YOUR DUTIES ONCE AGAIN AS LONG AS YOU ARE PROPERLY TRAINED THE NEXT TIME.
sorry caps lock
SCARFACE THE RULES: 1.Everyday above ground is a good day. 2.All you have in this world is your balls and your word. Dont break em for no body. 3.Never get high on your own supply. 4.Always remember, this is business. 5.Always tell the truth, even when you lie. 6.Every dog has his day. 7.Youre always going to be the Bad Guy. 8.Never underestimate the other guys greed. 9.Never forget, the world is yours. 10.Never trust nobody
A couple of things about taping squad car windows.
Try to use CLEAR PACKING TAPE.
Tape INSIDE & OUT (except ever the wires of the rear window defroster)
At the ends, take about a half inch and fold it under, sticky side to sticky side. This is to form a tab so that the tape can be easily pulled off when no longer needed.
Stafe safe, and learn how to duck.
To the FOP and PB&PA.
I demand that you walk and examine the areas which they expect us to perform.
Where are our facilities.
Porta-johns, medics, rest and relief plans.
Water and food if we are to be there for extended periods.
There is still time to see and correct the flaws
Maybe Barak's campaign will pay for it, Oh Yeah, there are the one's who put the porta-john on a police memorial. Maybe Oprah, to avoid a scandal.
If all else fails, drop back 2 Kliks, regroup and call for an airstrike.
Tape your windows??? WTF?
Duck tape is not going to stop a brick from comming through your window! Nor will it stop you from getting spayed with glass shards.
One thing you can count on is the sticky tape wrapping around your face covered in glass, just a nanosecond before the brick hits you in the side of your head.
Taping glass window was a method used to keep large plate glass windows from fallin in once cracked.
Tempered glass (auto glass)does not act the same way.
You will just look like an idiot driving around with tape on the glass. And telling them, hey throw the brick right here (target).
am I missing something? Or are you guys the most paranoid people on the planet? Prediction - whatever it is that you weirdos think will happen on Tuesday will not happen.
10/31/2008 08:13:00 AM
weirdos??? who are you?, it will happen.
Larry, I wish we were kidding. CPD had foot posts all over the west side, 4 cops, one radio. That was about the most scared I'd ever been
10/31/2008 09:02:00 AM
Fuck that, don't do it. 4 cops to one radio?
DALEY SEZ BRING YOUR FAMILIES TO CELEBRATE??????
Bloomberg's no prize. But Daley has to be softer than baby shyt.
Did you know that the Ayers/Dorn Weather Underground murdered two MOS in our suburbs?
As Larry also from NYPD said, we can't believe that each of you won't have a radio. That's insane.
God bless and be careful, guys.
P.S.: Like you guys, we live in a blue state but most NYPD will be voting for John McCain.
Did your G-man commissioner really endorse Obama?
"Men of Harlech stop your dreaming
Can't you see their spear points gleaming
See their warrior's pennants streaming
To this battle field
Men of Harlech stand ye steady
It cannot be ever said ye
For the battle were not ready
Stand and never yield
Form the hills rebounding
Let this war cry sounding
Summon all at Cambria's call
The mighty force surrounding
Men of Harlech onto glory
This shall ever be your story
Keep these fighting words before ye
Cambria (Welshmen never) will not yield"
AT 100 YARDS VOLLEY FIRE PRESENT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvc0tYG_YpA
check this guy out-
he speaks the truth about obama
hey 11:59 gunner,you were with a patrolmen? what the fuck are you? YOU SOUND LIKE YOU ARE ALMIGHTY GOD,PATROLMEN AND WOMEN MAKE THIS DEPARTMENT WHAT IT IS.
Anonymous said...
I am missing something? Or are you guys the most paranoid people on the planet? Prediction - whatever it is that you weirdos think will happen on Tuesday will not happen.
10/31/2008 08:13:00 AM
did U see the heading of this post?? U must be an idiot.
SCC is asking for advice, help, for a potentially bad night and U question it.
Ever here of officer safety, probably not in your world. But this is real. If this offends U go .... yourself. This is a police site for police.
It might be a warm and fuzzy evening for all, but U will be the first to blame the police when they are not prepared if things go bad.
DORK
"Don't Taze me bro"
Wow. It deeply saddens me that you all are having to prepare for this possibility to become a reality next week. Breaks my heart for you all and your families.
Please stay safe, all. My prayers will be with you.
good luck and be safe
a concerned citizen who cares
L@@@@@@@K HERE:
For the love of God - DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT run off into the crowd after some jagoff.
You signed up to be the Police - you will get hit with rocks, piss, shit, bricks, bottles, etc, etc...
Common sense, DO NOT try to lock up every M-Fer out htere, even if they hit you with the stuff already listed. Just let it go. You run off, you get hurt, you leave your partner/team with one less guy.
Common sense, kick their ass when you can kick their ass. Suck up that Police Pride, know that it will be fucked up, and that you will get hit, deal with it.
If you get the chacne to kick ass, and you can do it safely, then pick the biggest fucker or the loudest fucker out there and kick the living bejesus out of them. Have no mercy - I am talking the mother of all beat downs.
Show the crowd you are in control, go home, and blog here next week about your location.
use common sense - that is all.
THAT'S FUNNY!!!!!!!!
To the NYPD Officer.
No, we do not have or have ever had enough radios. (somehow the money dissapeared )
Also the radios we have are very old and do fail when needed. Most of the batteries are past any reaonable lift cycle and do fail, sometimes after only two hours.
Our radio system is outdated and city hall types keep imroving the thing into the ground. Same with our computer system.
We have no car radios, just portables, and no chargers for the field.
Wear your hats. The real police crown cap. It will stop a bottle and you will be noticed from far away. It has work for me since 1980
MP3 music in my IPOD for the riots:
Slayer, “Reign in Blood,” the entire album. Hit repeat.
Motorhead, any f*cking song. Go Lemmy.
Metallica, Any song from “And Justice for All” and earlier.
F*ck that pussy sh*t from any album after that.
You fuckin' pussy sergeants: arm yoursekf with a taser. Not for your stupid ass but for your subordinates who may have to have the fight taken out of an shithead.
I'm working CHA tomorrow. A can of canned corn upside my head will put me on IOD. Merry X-mas!
Anonymous said...
go jellon. jellon on the feet that is. remember your puppies will be barking after standing on cold concrete for 12+ hours.
Excellent idea. But also bring extra socks. Real police; remember to bring your leather jackets. It will be warm but they are very resistant to knives and jagged glass.
Super glue and steri-strips will quickly close a wound and limit bleeding. Swallow your teeth and keep fighting, brothers!
Good Post... Good Tips and Clues
Many of us went through TARA and thought it was bullshit....Think again when we are out there not only on TUE but everyday.
Wheelgun that's been there, and does not claim to know it all....
Anonymous said...
Dont try to save the world and arrest everybody for every crime you see happening in front of you. It sounds ridiculous, but it turns chaotic so fast that its almost unbelievable and definitely uncontrollable.
Absolutely! an arrest only provokes others. Grab one asshole and make an example of him/her to the point that all others will be discouraged and run scared from the crazy popo.
(OT) Monday coming up pam the slut zekman has a special report from a rat fbi agent who will talk about us again as "bad cops"! How much more can morale be finished! Fuck the media whores the only one that is any good is JOHN KASS!
charge OBAMA for every arrest processing and overtime due to his losing rally held in Grant Park.
10/31/2008 12:34:00 PM
There will be a special event number issued to facilitate charge-back for police services. It's done at the airports.
There is no way this will be a peaceful celebration that ends quietly. This will be Richard M. Daley and Barack Obama’s legacy. This is an arrogant self-indulgence for an un-American Marxist asshole who is unfit to breathe air in the USA. .
There is no reason to try and control a superior force looting, damaging property or assaulting civilians that put themselves in harm’s way. You need to save your energy, weapons and ammunition for the direct protection of yourselves and other officers. Before the night is over you may be fighting for your very lives.
I don’t see any possible escape plan for the police.
The City of Chicago made sure you have no marksmanship abilities with only 30 rounds of practice ammunition per year. I fully expect news reporters and grandmas to get winged by mistake.
Those cell phone cameras and such are worthless in the dark. Darkness may prove to be your friend for many reasons.
You as the police are restricted on the weapons you can have but Chicago’s street gangs that will be there in droves have no limits.
Protect yourselves and families first.
Let the goofs that voted for Daley and Obama fend for themselves. Please be safe. The boys and girls working that night will be in my prayers.
Im ready.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM57Bg2decI
Post a Comment
<< Home