Friday, November 28, 2008

The New Fleet?

No wonder we're driving hunks of shit with 120,000 miles, no brakes, no floors and no working electronics. We're saving money for these:
  • Carbon Motors will be using the nine-city 2008 Pure Justice tour of the U.S. as an avenue for unveiling its all-new E7 purpose-built police car.

    The E7 hasn't even secured its final name yet - Carbon Motors will be relying on the law enforcement community to choose a name for the vehicle ahead of production. Nevertheless, the car is looking more like a real product that could actually come to market, and judging by the reception of the police community, the vehicle will be on at least some city streets in the near future.

    The tour to promote the car kicked off in Chicago next Monday, October 14, offering the first public glimpse of the car. The reveal at the 115th International Association of Police Chiefs convention today gives the best view of the car yet, thanks to the new video of the car, which shows it inside and out in real-world trim.
Diesel powered.

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53 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

that is the stupidest looking squad car i have ever seen in my life. please god, buy something else and not these star trek looking pieces of crap.

11/28/2008 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want one.

11/28/2008 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.carbonmotors.com/machine/specifications

11/28/2008 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Dick Daley said...

Can my nephew become a supplier, if so you have yourself a contract.

11/28/2008 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dont I wish!
My car has over 125,000 miles on it. Figure fleet spent a few thousand on the new GPS and computer mount and a PDT that requires a restart of you even switch between PCAD and Clear.

Id like to clean the movable partition on the cage. The dirt has gotten so dark it now looks dark gray and you cant see thru it. How in the world can I do that with out bringing tools from home to do it?

Hey fleet wouldnt it be cheaper to built wash racks at the gas pumps I could drive thru than to use your well connected approved car washes that do a crappy job anyway?

11/28/2008 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spotted this beauty a couple weeks back on the web...cost $300K each I think?...bad timing for Carbon Motors with the economy as it is...
if CPD ever got one, it would only be for J-Fed to drive around and show his Fed buddies.

11/28/2008 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must say, that is a fantastic looking car and a great idea. Don't expect it here.... Ever...

11/28/2008 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a great concept, the 1st of it's kind that isn't a standard sedan retrofitted for Police Work. But the money to purchase these vehicles went to the GPS Systems they're installing on Pool cars w/ 160,000 Miles. State of the Art Department still handwriting case reports in 2009?

11/28/2008 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like the suicide door on in the rear. It would make it much easier to put the offender in.

11/28/2008 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will be named the Venecko mobile. When a female relative of Short-n-Sassy scores the minority contract at double list price.

11/28/2008 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It all comes down to cost, money that is and it seems we don't have any. Rusty old cars for us.

11/28/2008 02:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Ray "Bam-Bam" Wilke said...

I already purchased an unmarked one. Very nice ride. I tour my Mt. Greenwood neighborhood on my off-hours in it.

11/28/2008 04:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yea Uh HUH and richie is going to pay for this right? You couldnt wedge a toothpick in shortshanks ass with a sledge hammer he is so cheap. Ill believe it when I see it~

11/28/2008 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hear you have to take TWO power tests to be able to drive it...haha

11/28/2008 07:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

American car companies are just about bankrupt. Better start looking at a Toyota or Nissan. Hmmm, maybe a Kia? How about a Chinese car?

11/28/2008 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Relax people; I had one of our 'loaded' cars the other day and guess what? Camera (not working),Plate reader (not working),PDT (not working),GPS (don't know).I then proceeded to the area for a g&o and you guessed it;the car was downed with no pool car available! HA

11/28/2008 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous former 82nd airborne said...

Can the U.S. Army give us a pair of M1A1 Abrams tanks for Districts 007 (south) and 011 (west)?

Fleet mgmt. could paint them sky blue with the CPD logo. If they opt for camouflage, paint them black.

11/28/2008 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SCC, just watched the vid linked to your thread on this concept car. I like it! Doubt we'll see it here in the near future, but it is definitely worthy of consideration.
One question though...why did they continually "fuzz out" the ford logo on the Crown Vics shown in the vid? Did they really think no one knew what make those other squads were? Are they that stupid?

11/28/2008 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is justice:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081125/D94M7P5G0.html

11/28/2008 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Piece of shit. Spinners aren't even standard. How the fuck can "Five-O" roll like that and expect to relate to the community? Get with the program, its the 21st Century.

11/28/2008 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it is any good it will be expensive. That means we will get them in a pig's fucking eye.

I am still using worn out, obsolete PDT's in my squad car with no batteries and Windows 98 on it! The fucking AT&T phone guy has better equipment in their repair trucks.

Attention citizens: YOU ARE GETTING FUCKED IN YOUR ASS, this police department isn't prepared for shit and Daley is stealing your money and we have old shit equipment.

Those SWAT Operators sure look good though.

11/28/2008 09:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only intelligent comment ever made by Hillard when he saw the chevy squades was "get that crap out of here I don't want our officers in that. Same would apply to the photo of this shit box. If you can't make a better car keep making the ford if, only for police use.
Bring the fleet back to the Department with the safety of our people in mind,also bring back someone who cares about the members they serviced.

11/28/2008 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How much did those those electric car power chargers in the new station parking lots cost? How come no cars ever plugged into them. Who's connected company installed them?

11/28/2008 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mmmm diesels rock. Too bad nobody related to Daley works at the company.

11/28/2008 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yea Uh HUH and richie is going to pay for this right? You couldnt wedge a toothpick in shortshanks ass with a sledge hammer he is so cheap. Ill believe it when I see it~

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You couldn't wedge a toothpick up my ass either and I would like to think that I'm careless with my money

11/28/2008 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't believe a company could produce a car at a price cities/towns/village's will pay with out it being "subsidized" by sales to the general public. The per unit cost will be very high.

11/28/2008 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think we all should be driving around in 1972 beetles. the heat works well and there is plenty of room in front of vehicle to store gear. efficient on gas and built like tanks, you can drive it into the chicago river and it will float across to the other side. the only drawback is there is no way to turn the heat off so it could get a little rough in the summer.

11/28/2008 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought the Dems were all about unions, yet they will buy this car from a Japanese auto maker.

11/28/2008 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as long as it has heat/ac and a cigarette lighter outlet for my dvd player its a deal to me. these new cruisers seem pretty neat. I pray it also has camaras and gps too.

11/28/2008 11:21:00 AM  
Anonymous a.d.s. for nepotism "matty" cline said...

How 'bout a 5th floor pimp ride version, w/ chrome 25" rims, fully reclining "daddy gone so i gonna get dat troat promotion" heated and cooled pleather seats, a mid-nite desk sgt. "the boss is drunk again, i'll approve that arrest" wet bar and a 1000 watt quadraphonic blue-ray 1080p entertainment system. Thats what i'm talkin' 'bout.

11/28/2008 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that is the stupidest looking squad car i have ever seen in my life. please god, buy something else and not these star trek looking pieces of crap.

11/28/2008 12:13:00 AM

It would seem that you are more concerned about mere Asthetics as opposed to Utility, Functionality and Performance. Priorities assbackwards. This leads me to firmly believe that you are a white shirt, most likely high ranking

11/28/2008 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard that there is truth to the story of incompetent installation of GPS equipment in squad cars. The project was to be completed at end of November. Now, they must repair the damage. Outside vendors brought in poorly trained installers. Forget state of the art squad cars. How about a car running with a pdt, brakes and a heater? Who cares about 100,000 miles. Pie in the sky thinking. So much for leadership.

11/28/2008 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once upon a time when I was still alive, I showed up for work one day to find three AMC Matadors (honest to God) decked out in CPD colors and decals. They were there for testing, I was told. The doors fell off in about a week. Be careful what you wish for . . .

11/28/2008 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that is the stupidest looking squad car i have ever seen in my life. please god, buy something else and not these star trek looking pieces of crap.

11/28/2008 12:13:00 AM

Very good point. It's all about looking cool. What's your look? Cargo pants, turtle neck & baseball hat or Carhartt jacket, carpenter jeans &.....backwards baseball hat. Both very cool looks; yet somehow crime is up? Who'd have thunk?

11/28/2008 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unless Daley or one of his relatives stands to make money on the contract, it will never happen.

11/28/2008 01:52:00 PM  
Blogger TheBronze said...

This will never happen. You'll never see coppers from any department driving these things, except in limited numbers for "testing". The whole thing will turn out to be nothing but a pipe-dream.

11/28/2008 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

300k each?? wait until you get into a wreck in one of these... no more one or two days off for the accident because you will be crucified.

expensive car = expensive parts = expensive repairs = retraining for fleet = money = daley = we keep crown vics with 155,000 = daleys family in the loop making connected money = police officers remain :(

11/28/2008 02:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

does it come in a SUV like jody promised us?

11/28/2008 03:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You couldn't wedge a toothpick up my ass either and I would like to think that I'm careless with my money

11/28/2008 10:45:00 AM"


Uh huh, you would like to think that, wouldn't you?

11/28/2008 07:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a dream, the city is not buying any new vehicles for us! daley gets new cars every 6,000 miles, so does eddie burke compliments of us as tax payers, we drive junkers, and j-fed will never stand up to the mayor like Cline did and get us new equipment simple as that!

11/28/2008 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A diesel, great. CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK....all night long. Wonder if you'd have to keep them running all night in sub zero weather to keep the fuel from turning into jello....Sally ports will be crammed with downed cars so they will start in the AM. Either that or they will all have to be plugged in. Can I get the extension cord contract?

11/28/2008 09:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck that noise... bring back the ass whoopin' 1969-1970 dodge polara/plymouth fury police pursuits

122" wheelbase
440 super commando engines rated at 375hp (actually 420+ mopar tended to underrate) & 490lbs of torque, 0-60 in 6.3 seconds or better, built like a tank and very roomy... who am i kidding??
best modern era police car was the 94-96 chevy caprice 9c1... detuned corvette engine rated 260hp (actual @ 275) 0-60 in 6.3 top end of right around 150 mph... a fast rugged car that cpd never had (bad enough coppers were wrecking the 89-92 caprices & those were basically truck 350's with big torque so father daley was NOT gonna put police behind the wheel of a full tilt highway patrol car).

but those of us who worked cta special during that time fondly remember the "rocket chevy's"

...pool wagon 211,000 miles!

11/28/2008 11:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
i think we all should be driving around in 1972 beetles. the heat works well and there is plenty of room in front of vehicle to store gear. efficient on gas and built like tanks, you can drive it into the chicago river and it will float across to the other side. the only drawback is there is no way to turn the heat off so it could get a little rough in the summer.

11/28/2008 10:54:00 AM

Actually a 72 beetle didn't have heat like cars do now. The only heat you get is from the engine when the car is moving. In the winter here in Chgo while you wait at red lights all the glass frosts up as you wait for the light to change. I know this because I had one in my 20's and I only lasted one winter with it. It was a cool car though.

11/28/2008 11:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read somewhere that the entire law enforcement vehicle market was about 40,000 vehicles of all types, cars, SUV's, motorcycles, trucks, etc. in a good year. Cars about 15,000.

What the automakers do is run the police product line at the end of the model year, clearing out the line before shutting down for maintenance and model change-over. All of the parts that go into the police models are production items. And nothing really special. Heavier shocks, radiator, alternator, a few suspension pieces and that's about it.

Since it end of the year run, the price on the cars is fairly low. This thing would have to be cost competitive with the current models.

What about parts support? Warranty service?

Gas is down to $1.79/ gal, Diesel still about $3/gal. There goes the cost savings.

And the Carbon still has to run the EPA 50,000 mile emissions certification test run, which takes about 1300 hours and still has to be crash tested and certified.

How many are they looking to sell per year? And with the current tanking of the capital markets, I suspect that Carbon Motors will be on the scrap heap pretty soon.

11/29/2008 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hear that the city plans on issuing helicopters in place of squad cars. That way we'll be able to be the leader in homeland security and event numbers!

11/29/2008 01:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets just "keep it real" and get something that looks like life boats with H.M.S. Titanic on it. This one is sinking fast!

11/29/2008 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

isn't there an outfit in michigan that purchased the tooling for the fullsize chevy caprice? remember seeing something about full body off frame rebuilds with new engines, transmissions, interiors & electronics for approx. half the price of a new crown vic? i think there's a warranty too... anyone recall seeing this?

11/29/2008 02:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The guy that mentioned rebuilding the caprice, Orland Park had that done by a chevy dealer in michigan, years ago. I dont think they do it anymore, they want to sell you a piece of crap 9C1 impala or tahoe. Orland went with a mix of impalas and the crown vic. The crown vic is the lessor evil. The dodge charger has taken over the suburban police depts. I dont see any tested for chicago, shortshanks must not know anyone selling them.

11/29/2008 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The guy that mentioned rebuilding the caprice, Orland Park had that done by a chevy dealer in michigan, years ago. I dont think they do it anymore, they want to sell you a piece of crap 9C1 impala or tahoe. Orland went with a mix of impalas and the crown vic. The crown vic is the lessor evil. The dodge charger has taken over the suburban police depts. I dont see any tested for chicago, shortshanks must not know anyone selling them.

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um lets see city started using impalas like 10 years after everyone else, semi auto pistols 10 years after eveyone else, still don't have rifles most departments started shortly after the La bank robery(like 15 years ago), asps,tazers,etc.... We are never I repeat never getting these.

11/29/2008 06:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New fleet ENEMA!! No money for the contract but their looking at new cars?

Fuck you city mongrols give me my contract and screw your cameras and your pods and all your other bullshit.

And you wonder why we retire and get the fuck out of this police hating cespool!!

GO HAWKS!!!!

11/29/2008 07:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...cpd will NEVER approve the dodge charger (not with the hemi at least) either the v6 or if chrysler would smarten up they would build it with the 4.7 v8 & target it toward municipal police...better mileage & performance than the p-71 cvpi but still a pita because of the big ass c-pillar... and a note, with all the bullshit they're stuffing in cars now i'm sure if/when someone gets hit from behind/backs into-over something because of the bars over the rear windows and camera microphone do-dads over your shoulder obstructing your view, the boss is gonna be real understanding and make that a non preventable ("obstructed view from inside of vehicle") right?
*crickets chirping*
*rat scurrying*
*dog barking*
...yeah i thought not

11/29/2008 07:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The dodge charger has taken over the suburban police depts. I dont see any tested for chicago, shortshanks must not know anyone selling them....

Trouble with the Dodges is they ride too low to the ground with all of our potholes and speed humps. You think the impalas are bad....Try a speed hump in an Intrepid or something similar, there would be NOTHING left of that car after one tour.

11/29/2008 08:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i want to be a cop now just to drive that it's pimped out

12/03/2008 08:06:00 PM  

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