Shortage Hits 022
Actually, it's hitting everywhere, but this is making it kind of obvious that Shortshanks, J-Fed and anyone attached to the City is lying through their teeth to us, the media and the public:
Residents in the 22nd Police District are being asked by Chicago police to volunteer to monitor cop surveillance cameras.
The cameras, formally called Police Observation Devices, or PODs, are mounted on streetlights in neighborhoods and used by police to spot illegal activity, including loitering, drug dealing and other crimes.
City police Officer Joe Hurley announced that police are looking for POD monitors during a recent Beat 2222 CAPS meeting.
Is this really a good idea? Really? We thought that cameras were supposed to be the be all and end all of 21st century policing. Now we have to ask for unpaid volunteers to monitor police devices, look for criminal behavior and call 911 to report it? What happened to the idea of retirees monitoring the cameras? Oh wait, that would cost money.
And when some civilian or teen (yes, they are accepting teens so they can cover community service hours) is found to be violating the law by peeking in windows (yes, it's going to happen) who's on the hook for the Civil Rights judgments?
And when some civilian or teen (yes, they are accepting teens so they can cover community service hours) is found to be violating the law by peeking in windows (yes, it's going to happen) who's on the hook for the Civil Rights judgments?
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
120 Comments:
Bigger Shortage Now:
Is it true that the new citywide gang unit has the following daily operation planned?
Pick up your squad car at the district you are assigned and then drive to Homan Square for a personal roll call with your leader Leo Schmitz?
For district not centrally located, such as 003, 004, 005, 022, and also the far north side districts, this daily trip and whatever roll call being conducted will basically take at least ONE THIRD OF THE TOUR OF DUTY.
The department is depleting the district of their gang teams, thus less coverage in a district and then wasting 1/3 of their shift!
And the department has the balls to call this an improvement?
This is a disaster in the making. And once it fails, I am sure the dream child of this idea will even be promoted higher up.
That's the way the city works and that's the way the Chicago police department works.
Joe is a good guy. Hes just following orders from the commander. Its the boss' dumbass idea.
use people that are on medical,.......11 months back injury, you know the type
Why dont we pay o.t. to actual Police Officers to monitor these cameras. The most riduculous part of this job is the failure to properly man the streets with "tour extension" patrols and the opportunity to pay Officers o.t. to work their days off in the Districts to supplement the lack of man power. The liabilities of working non police side jobs are not worth it, but with the rising cost of living, taxes and cost of private schools for are kids leaves us with no choice. There should be that option for extra pay. An opportunity that Po's with less seniority would have a chance to benefit from. Speaking of those cameras, they are rarely properly monitored in the Districts. Tell me if I'm wrong, pull an event # for a POD mission, then set the computer camera up and then Pos walk away from the computer, never even able to spend anytime at the camera to observe anything. The Officers at the desk are too busy with the workload of case and accident report writing. I am glad that the Camera people downtown can spot the alcohol drinkers on the camera. The current way this multi million dollar camera system is run seems like a total waste of tax payers dollars. If Officers immediately code those job assignments, do you think they will do anything else for these "volunteers"? Are the "volunteers" going to be taught State law, City Ordinances and Department General Orders? Are they going to court as a witness? Are they going to leave Officers hanging with false arrest allegations when (if) they testify? Hire the "team" members (PO's) so the program can work. Officers that can coordinate with other Officers and document criminal activity on reports to actually make arrests and successfully prosecute in the criminal courts. (Internet surfers need not apply for the o.t.)
Complete bullshit.
Here is one better. The Alderman of the 19th Ward is going around telling the citizens of Bt 2211 that because of their concerns and the increase in crime on their bt that she is adding a 2211A car to their bt. That this car is not to leave their bt. Well guess what? A recent check of the 22nd District shows that not only is 2211 of it's bt but 2211A is off the bt as well!
A check of the bt history for 2211 & 2211A on a recent tour showed both cars off the bt except for two calls and a lunch taken on the bt!----------------What the Fuck!
This city is bullshit and I can not wait for it to go down in flames
Additional reasons this is a bad idea
1. If they observe a crime, they will now be a witness that must make a positive identification, appear in court, and be subjected to questions by the defense.
2. The gangs will be happy to monitor their turfs, and the turfs of their rivals.
3. The monitors will be able to relate to those on the street exactly which area is safe to hit....view residents leaving houses.....notifying friends to burglarize, home invade, etc....While of course, their monitoring skills will be directed elsewhere. Don't forget the ability to now relate to fellow gangs which rival gang members are on which corner.....
Sounds like king daley should hold onto that skyway nestegg and use it to pay off the future lawsuits that this will bring.
I'm sure that it won't be hard to find expert testimony on how the city should have known that it was placing it's citizens at risk by partaking in this activity....
ot. Scc check out the website at( Motorauthority .com ) look up the E7 police concept car. See which chicago government agency was interviewed on the short video that runs with the post.
Wow.. I am forced by this shity to live here. I pay taxes and now I have LESS police service.. nerd star chasers are performing police functions....
Will I get a Tax REFUND since I am performing duties the POLICE should be doing.. oh.. they can't do them since :
1. We don't have enough
2. The ones we have are in 'units' who requirements are to be off PPO status for 1 1/2 years (wow what salty dogs.. thought tru was bad)
Gets worse each day...
1)You will also let the bad guy use the POD also quickly all on the street will know about them.
2) Will the citizen go to court as a witness? Seems they will have to since they saw the crime and was the person in control of the POD.
3) Will the citizen be trained like we had to be with laws.
4) What happens when the citizen makes a mistake and the Officer makes a unlawful arrest due to the POD watchers error? Will the citizen be sued just like the Officer?
5) As Gomer Pyle said "Citizens Arrest, Citizens Arrest".
If true what a mess it will be we will now take orders from POD watchers.
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I hope he checked with legal affairs on this. There are many legal issues that need to be addressed.
Breaking News Off Topic--Tact LT's Gone 1 Jan 09
They will be manned by off-duty cops who are 19th Ward suckholes for free. You have to start the climb up the "Merit" heap somewhere.
I think it is time to stop all the whinning. people are getting layed off in huge amounts across this state. We are lucky we have a job and can still somewhat pay are bills.
We are not going to get more police any time soon and crime is only going to go up as people get more frustated with the economy.
The police dept is only trying to keep a level of policing operational with no funds. Grow up and thank God your job security is not based on the stock market or retail sales.
Maybe we can sell the rights to the cameras like we did with the downtown meters, COMISKEY park, the skyway, Daleys balls, etc.
How about the police monitor the POD's and the civilians handle the radio jobs?
Off topic: I cant wait for the new anti-hate thought/anti-2nd amendment unit to get rollin. Im going to love locking up all those who cling to religion and guns.
anti-obama posting for the day:
Consider this Comrade Barry.
What was the final straw of all the grievances against the English Crown that finally started the Revolutionary War?
Was it taxation without representation, high tariffs, corrupt British officials, or the quartering of troops among the colonists? NO! The Revolutionary War began when British troops were sent to Lexington and Concord to confiscate American’s firearms and gunpowder! Gun confiscation was the match that lit the Revolutionary War.
Hi Coworkers! (Hey, you better acknowledge me! I got my eye on you!) Can any other supervisors help me out? My goal is to have my officers hate me as much as humanly possible. I mean I already enforce assigned lunches, no lunch anywhere past 1.0 miles outside the district, no travel time (ha!), ride on all my officers jobs so I can micromanage as much as possible (wtf is 'discretion'?) and I like to obtain CRs whenever I can... (That's the wrong address you used on a T-stop officer, sign here!) My goal would be to have everyone leave the watch, so I can collect a paycheck for supervising no one! Pretty slick huh? Any imput from fellow jagbag bosses like myself would be greatly appreciated.
Signed,
Lt. "Keef" Reynolds
005 2nd Watch
Approved:
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(Has to be official people! If it ain't in the G.O.'s, I don't know about it!)
Sgt Skidmark's k9 comandos are without a leader. He will be missed by some.
the only POD west of longwood dr is by beverly park. but as usual, white people dont complain, therefore nothing will ever get done about the lack of police presence and manpower on the west end of 022. more citizens (police, police families, and non-police) of beats 2211 and part of 2212 and 2213 need to call rugai's office and bitch on a regular basis. also call the 022nd district commander's office too
OT: Saw this in todays headline, got excited for the wrong reason: Sources: Weis' buyout smaller than believed: from Chicago Tribune 26 Nov 08
Wrong Weis, sh*t!
IT SOUNDS LIKE A CONTRACT VIOLATION!
HOW ABOUT VOLUNTEERS TO WRITE PARKERS.
HOW ABOUT LAY OFF ALL THE CROSSING GUARDS AND HAVE PEDOPHILE VOLUNTEER TO CROSS KIDS.
OT and important shit: Will we get paid early being that the first falls on a Monday?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I think it is time to stop all the whinning. people are getting layed off in huge amounts across this state. We are lucky we have a job and can still somewhat pay are bills.
We are not going to get more police any time soon and crime is only going to go up as people get more frustated with the economy.
The police dept is only trying to keep a level of policing operational with no funds. Grow up and thank God your job security is not based on the stock market or retail sales.
11/26/2008 06:29:00 AM
Ok Jody, don't get your panties in a twist
Breaking News Off Topic--Tact LT's Gone 1 Jan 09
Who told you this? Is it true? Please let me know I will have to go car shopping this X-Mas mabe I will look at a Chevy Aveo or a Pontiac Vibe. Signed A scared Tact Lt.
I think it would open a can of worms. Would we want to let citizens have access to police computers? Would we prosecute when they leaked sensitive information? what if homey gets his girlfriend to volunteer and she lets homey know when the cops are coming? Stupid idea
Gun confiscation was the match that lit the Revolutionary War.
11/26/2008 07:33:00 AM
Yeah, but the Founders were intelligent, daring and intrepid men who placed great value upon Freedom and Liberty.
What could possibly light a fire under the rear ends of Chicago residents to rise up and throw off the yoke of Incompetence, Corruption and Oppression? Apparently most of the citizens here are confortable with it. Idiots.
Teens sentenced to community service(i.e. broke the law/ got caught) will be monitoring police cameras to locate law breakers??? Am I the only one that sees the irony in that?
Hmmmmm, how many of these civilians will use these cameras for perverted viewing?
If anything, the Dept. needs to remove some of the chronic medical roll abusers from callback, etc. and let THEM monitor the damn cameras!!
THis is what highest taxes highest crime, no schoools to use gets you in 022, nothing! I hate this city. All you dumbo coppers that want to stay here and fear residency, suck a %$& ! Your house aint worth shit now anyway, so take the loss.
This cant be true Ginger said we are fully staffed in 022 she wouldnt lie.
This city is bullshit and I can not wait for it to go down in flames
11/26/2008 01:35:00 AM
If we're lucky, your casa goes down in flames first while you're at home trapped under the weight of your jock; arrests, awards etc etc.
The point is until you accept your destiny and do a deep throat transfer to 022, you're all wind (as in ass).
those cameras work??
The department is depleting the district of their gang teams, thus less coverage in a district and then wasting 1/3 of their shift!
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The roll call will be your start time. Get your car, radio and pdt on your own time!
I think it is time to stop all the whinning. people are getting layed off in huge amounts across this state. We are lucky we have a job and can still somewhat pay are bills.
We are not going to get more police any time soon and crime is only going to go up as people get more frustated with the economy.
The police dept is only trying to keep a level of policing operational with no funds. Grow up and thank God your job security is not based on the stock market or retail sales.
11/26/2008 06:29:00 AM
Amen. Yes this job has really changed, but a J.O.B. is a J.O.B. If you can find better, please do so, this is America. I trying to make this work for me and my family. No I don't work in a cushy unit, working the street in a district. Happy Thanksgiving everone!
That's ridiculous and a waste of time! Why don't we just use the nice, really expensive cameras all the dope dealers have mounted right on the houses they're slingin' from????
135am post, UM yeah the 2211 and 2211A cars are constantly sent east. Check jobs anytime u want. At least they try to take lunch on or close to the beat, its about the only chance they have
Are these bosses idiots? Do they really think that the normal citizens of 022 have ANY free time to waste sitting watching a POD?
The current way this multi million dollar camera system is run seems like a total waste of tax payers dollars.
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Negative. Daley's buddy made those mills and Daley got a kick back. DUH!
SCC,
I am normally in your corner, but you are absolutely in the wrong to publicize Joe Hurley's name like he is the author of this ridiculous policy. Joe is a great guy and he is only doing as instructed. It is the D/C's stupid idea, not Joe's idea, he was just the messenger. You could have simply written, 022 CAPS Office personnel, instead using Joe's name.
As we all know, this job has many diverse personalities with many different attitudes and capabilities, but Joe Hurley is a very decent man and Police Officer and to make him out like he is some renegade going it alone outside the bounds is absolutely wrong. This is the very first time I have ever written these words, but fuck you SCC.
Southside 19-Paul
How about the police monitor the POD's and the civilians handle the radio jobs?
11/26/2008 07:10:00 AM
got to love police humor
Tact Lt gone and tact teams going to 8 man as of 1 Jan 09.
Alas, I live on Bt. 2211/2211A. Only recently our street was designated as "Permit Parking Only." The permit cost $50.00. I bought one to be legal. Only problem is, with all the radio jobs,no one ever has time to come around and write the illegal parkers every now and then. I respect each of you and know that, for good reason, you do not wish to add any income to Mayor Daley's coffers.
When you do get a fair contract will you ask the Mayor if I can have my fifty bucks back?
as a old retireee from the laughable 022 dist, 8 years, i would strongly suggest that the comm. staffs this unit with the fat unqualified chicks that would tell you right out that their hubbies told THE GINGER that they where not to work east of Western, ans also these same jokes were the 1st to office run and be the watchs stool pigeons, they were useless then and im quite sure since i left there is a whole new crew of these types filling the rolls.
Anonymous said...
How about the police monitor the POD's and the civilians handle the radio jobs?
11/26/2008 07:10:00 AM
You wouldn't want this. Many of those civilians would be young men and women, some of them former military and current reservists, people who want to make a difference, well trained and eager to do the job.
They wouldn't 19P calls without even showing up; they would listen to the radio; they would answer up when a PO needs another car; they wouldn't dog a paper call for hours; they would back each other up - just a few of the things that are rapidly becoming common behaviors among the growing numbers of well-paid dogs on this job.
In other words - a good corps of civilian volunteers would put a large percentage of the CPD to shame.
Go ahead and flame me all you want, but I'm getting sick and tired of all the crybabies on this job whining all the time. What's worse, you have so many excuses not to do the job you're starting to believe your own bullshit.
Those of you who refuse to work - I hope you will also refuse the retro check when it come through.
Hey, If I had some decent looking babes in the neighborhood, I volunteer to watch the cameras.
To 11/26 at 1:35 AM - Why wait? Quit now you jagoff.
Off Topic: There is a rumor that the Tact teams are going to be 8 man can anyone confirm?
I live in 022 and unfortunately the only time I really see a beat car riding around the district is if they're hitting a lunch spot or a 7-11. Maybe it's not the beat car's fault, because these fuckin dispatchers will send you to the ends of the earth to clear their board, but if they created a 2211a to STAY on the beat, the dispatchers should be ordered to keep the car ON the beat. Working folks need police to patrol the area too....
BREAKING NEWS!!!
This just in. . .
The heads have started to roll! Numerous exempts have been called downtown and informed that they are being demoted.
Stay tuned!
Ive got a better idea....
How about letting inmates moniter the pods. after all they have nothing but time.
The PODS area a waste of money and man power.
show me one case where the PODS were used to charge a part one offense
So far the only time I even hear of the POD camera's is when I get a drinking on the public way assignment. The narrative is generally something like "POD watchers observed a male drinking from a paper cup sitting on the park bench." or "female drinking from a bottle in a paper bag on the corner." Sorry, it's not illegal to drink from a cup in public and if the bottle isn't in plain view I can't be sure that it is alcohol can I? 19P.
I'm going to volunteer so that I can mess with my neighbor who I hate.
Commander in 025 got dumped? Got any updates?
Is it true that the new citywide gang unit has the following daily operation planned?
Pick up your squad car at the district you are assigned and then drive to Homan Square for a personal roll call with your leader Leo Schmitz?
For district not centrally located, such as 003, 004, 005, 022, and also the far north side districts, this daily trip and whatever roll call being conducted will basically take at least ONE THIRD OF THE TOUR OF DUTY.
The department is depleting the district of their gang teams, thus less coverage in a district and then wasting 1/3 of their shift!
And the department has the balls to call this an improvement?
This is a disaster in the making. And once it fails, I am sure the dream child of this idea will even be promoted higher up.
That's the way the city works and that's the way the Chicago police department works.
11/26/2008 12:16:00 AM
NO, the gang guys are being assigned to the area, they will report there daily, not their former districts, their cars are going to the area, they will no longer be assigned to their district, they are becoming part of OCD, no longer in patrol. They will not report to Homan Square...
How about taking down the PODS sell them on Maxwell St. and stop wasting everyones time and money.
These cameras are worthless, always pointing the wrong way and if, by chance, they are pointing the right way they are too dark, unfocused and crap.
Anonymous said...
Maybe we can sell the rights to the cameras like we did with the downtown meters, COMISKEY park, the skyway, Daleys balls, etc.
11/26/2008 07:02:00 AM
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Hey, now!
We may be on to something here! J-Fed sez we need to find new ways to fight crime. Why don't we auction off the rights AND use of the PODs to the gangs? We could then force them all to purchase PPLs (Personal Pod Licenses) like the Bears did at Soldier Field. Any new interest in buying a PPL by new gangs or gang members, would require a service fee to be put on the waiting list to purchase POD licenses, or the WLTPPL!
Of course, for recruiting purposes they will want to "advertise" in their competitors territory in order to attract more competant executives and so they could spray paint their gang logos and "want ads" on the light poles. We can get them bidding against each other and raising the bid amounts into the stratosphere. We'll soak up enough illegal drug money to balance the city budget, AND help keep the gangs in check.
They will also be stellar observers
of these cameras in order to keep their drug trade operating efficiently. They can protect their turf, identify their enemy gang members, strategize about marketing concepts, and testify in court, since they are probably more familiar with that, than half our sworn department!
They'll obviously be able to operate with impunity, since J-Fed is de-emphasizing drug enforcement. That, in turn, will free up more manpower for the new, yet to be formed, citywide ECF Unit, (Extra Cop Force), that can be deployed to any district in the city with a manpower shortage (say less than 3 cars working per watch). All this can be done without raising taxes!!!
Seriously, though;}
Since we need to save funds for the city, I propose that we not only roll back the alderscum's 6% raise, but also make their part-time jobs voluntary, as well! I'll voluteer, knowing there is a $1.3 million fund for each ward that does not have to be accounted for.
And, do I see any hands to volunteer for the office of the Mayor of Chicago? Just cutting out half the BS kickbacks and payoffs that this mayor is involved in and the US Attorney will be ecstatic and you'll still be a millionare.
I know I'm not the only one with great ideas for keeping this town solvent. Maybe more examples from the Blogosphere would be in order and a humorous thread to run for the holiday? HAVE A GOOD ONE!!!
SCC man you slippin!!! (just Jokin)
Where's the posting of all the new changes... 001, 008, a/2 TRU, and others affected. I predict a record number of hits tonite for you!!!
"Grow up and thank God your job security is not based on the stock market or retail sales.
11/26/2008 06:29:00 AM"
Actually, everyone's job security is based on everyone else's job security.
And, a police officer's job security actually increases, as civilized society becomes less and less civilized.
"The police dept is only trying to keep a level of policing operational with no funds."
No funds?
So the midget says.
Do you really believe him?
Do you really think that there are 'no funds' available for one of the three, most vital to society, governmental functions, ie., law enforcement, fire protection and emergency medical responses?
When there are plenty of funds available for non-essential governmental functions, ie., 'Jumping Jacks', 'consulting contracts', 'public relations propagandizing', 'mismanagement patronage armies', 'the overpaid friends and family hiring plans', 'equipment leasing contracts', 'think tanks designed to think solely about new ways and means to tax the working citizens into poverty', 'predominantly useless TMA's', 'revenue enhancement trolls', etc., etc., etc., ad infinauseum?
C'mon, city hall troll, you can come up with a more deceptive and convincing argument than "I think it is time to stop all the whinning."
In fact, I think it's time for you city hall freaks to stop all of your whining.
Your overpaid rides are coming to an end and all you can think of is how to keep your ovepaid, workless gigs, at whatever the cost may be to the honest, hard working, taxpaying citizens of this city and county.
Blow your bullshit smoke up somebody else's ass, your patent bullshit won't sell here.
But you may earn some brownie points for trying.
Check in with your chinaman and see what flavor his ass is squeezing out today.
You heard it here first, D.S. Shields is out and so is Cmdr of TRU
Major bloodbath today in CPD, major changes: dumps and promotions!
Bye TDub! enjoy 008!
Bye,bye Sal.Hope you enjoyed your time in 025. But not to worry. You will like 013. As a field Lt. Ha,ha,ha. Practice over the weekend saying "1390", not 2500. You will get used to it.That's what you get for being so arrogant.
If this is true, then unfuckingbelievable. Unqualified civilians doing a police officers job. Security breach - yes. A slap in the face to the dept - yes. Yet another in the long list of idiot ideas of Mr. Weis - most definately yes.
Cha Cha Cha Changes!!!!!!!!!!
Any details?
Jody is slowly dismantling & demoralizing this department. Not one good idea yet.....and the latest is Leo's baby... a stupid stupid idea, from a stupid stupid little man...
This was an idea from downtown. 022 is the pilot District. If it works there, it will be expanded citywide.
Every volunteer is checked out. Any arrests, they are out.
And it should be retirees or special employment. More circumvention of the contracts.
Smoke and fucking mirrors.
Just so you know, this was not the idea of the 022nd Dist Commander, but rather from Ald Rugai. She initiated the idea of having citizens come in and monitor the PODS because they were not being used in the 19th Ward where she has people, only in the 22nd and 34th wards (Howard Brookins and Carrie Austin, respectively).
When problems were pointed out to her as several people here already stated, she insisted on having PO's monitor the cameras at all times. Light duty people were doing that already.
I can't confirm how, but downtown insisted on 022 beginning a pilot program for citizen POD watchers, and this is what came up. If successful, this will be a program in all districts.
Note that kids watching the cameras must have a parent with them, so that should knock out a fair number of kids who might otherwise volunteer.
No word on the testifying in court aspect or the problem with street stops turning into beefs from these camera directed assignments from the POD watchers.
but Joe Hurley is a very decent man and Police Officer and to make him out like he is some renegade going it alone outside the bounds is absolutely wrong. This is the very first time I have ever written these words, but fuck you SCC.
Southside 19-Paul
Dear Fuckhead Southside 19-Paul:
Did you even read the fucking link? He's quoted in the fucking Chi-Town Daily News website. A fucking media outlet. So we don't give a flying fuck what you think or who's stupid fucking idea it was, but if we quote a fucking news article with his fucking name in it, then fuck you, twice, and the fucking horse you rode in on. You are a fucking moron, a fucking tool and a fucking retarded asshat.
And fuck you too you dumb-shit. You give every intelligent southsider a bad fucking name who can actually click a fucking link, follow a fucking news story and read a fucking complete sentence.
Get the picture yet dumbfuck?
Why pick on Joe? He is one of the best of the best. Just doing his job unlike most.....
11/26/2008 12:16:00 AM
Schmitz Commander (envelope burke), a leader that is a stretch! How come all the harley guys j-fed promotes leo-roti-screaming skull and the rest the new "sons of anarchy" LOL! Sorry i am buying a harley, wait a minute sos gave a new harley to a boss ahh that is why he is going to be ok!
Very timely that the west end of 022 is complaining on one of their busiest drunken brawl days of the year.....the day before Thanksgiving.
Anonymous said...
Breaking News Off Topic--Tact LT's Gone 1 Jan 09
11/26/2008 02:58:00 AM
More breaking airport commnader and lt c.o. dumped jan also!
CAPS office is assigning a new LT (former ADS) to the Fusion room with two POs, second and third watch, they will monitor identified problem areas. They'll be part of a new section of CAPS office (Intelligence led policing section). The way its set up each po can watch 8 cameras at one time at the work stations.
"I mean I already enforce assigned lunches, no lunch anywhere past 1.0 miles outside the district, no travel time (ha!),..."
Hey, ease off of Reynolds. Guess what? The inspectors monitor when the cars go to lunch, vs their assigned times. This comes out in a report, which filters down to the various cmdrs, and back to the WCs. If Keith is enforcing it, it's only because of the feedback for NOT enforcing it. Maybe some of you lazy strokes out in 005 should take your lunches closer to your assigned times, as they're posted on your roster, and quit whining. It's not like you day watch MFs over there are blazing a trail to the hot calls or anything.
I said in the past and I'll say it again, hire back part time retired coppers to work (suppliment full time officer) and now for viewing of the pod cam in the districts. It's a win-win situation for both the retired officer and the city because they don't have to pay insurance etc. Plus, the retired guys know what to look for.
A check of the bt history for 2211 & 2211A on a recent tour showed both cars off the bt except for two calls and a lunch taken on the bt!----------------What the Fuck!
Get empty bottle tony c off the tax payers beat. Rag Rag all day codes jobs doesnt show up..I going after his sgts, useless patronage hacks
For the 11/26/2008 06:29:00 AM post..
Don't know if this may have an effect on the folks working the streets but when the stock markets fall like a used cndom and same with jobs and the folks get fustrated and the shit hits the fan, it would be nice to have a few more bodies out there not tied up when your rolling around on the ground with a couple mutts trying to call 10-1 amd these mutts are trying to take your weapon and shove it up your ass! It's called safety with numbers, enough to get your sorry ass home every night. Or is it your sitting at a desk getting the boss coffee everyday that makes you want to try and kiss his ass with a comment like this?
"11/26/2008 03:56:00 PM"
You've just earned a star from George Carlin.
He's laughing his fucking ass off as we speak.
" No word on the testifying in court aspect or the problem with street stops turning into beefs from these camera directed assignments from the POD watchers.
11/26/2008 03:55:00 PM"
Tell me, if you can, that cell phones will be banned, at all times that these civilian volunteers are monitoring the pods.
What the fuuuuuu? We gotta get our Priests marching down Longwood Drive!
Get those asses out of the rectory and start demanding the services we all deserve.
Ginger you crooked bitch. Who you laying down for?
"Hey, If I had some decent looking babes in the neighborhood, I volunteer to watch the cameras.
11/26/2008 12:21:00 PM"
Then bite the bullet and move north.
Yeah, I know, that sacrilegious, but, what the hell, determine your priorities and make up your mind.
"HAVE A GOOD ONE!!!
11/26/2008 02:42:00 PM"
You, sir, are financial genius, and, thus, will be ignored.
It's the Chicago way.
"Those of you who refuse to work - I hope you will also refuse the retro check when it come through.
11/26/2008 11:32:00 AM"
And, of course, there is no connection, as far as you can see, between the two, right?
None whatsoever?
"11/26/2008 11:29:00 AM"
They're not ALL fat.
"When you do get a fair contract will you ask the Mayor if I can have my fifty bucks back?
11/26/2008 11:09:00 AM"
Ask him yourself, if you want to give him a good laugh.
And, by the way, blocks don't become 'permit parking only' by themselves, a certain percentage of the residents have to sign petitions requesting that designation.
Did you happen to sign the petition?
Or did someone sign it for you? As in forge your signature.
And, are you aware that this designation can be rescinded, with enough resident signatures requesting it?
Something to look into, don't you think?
"Negative. Daley's buddy made those mills and Daley got a kick back. DUH!
11/26/2008 10:48:00 AM"
Okay, so the definition of not wasting the taxpayers dollars is what now?
"Hmmmmm, how many of these civilians will use these cameras for perverted viewing?
11/26/2008 09:25:00 AM"
You're vastly overestimating the quality of the images these cameras produce.
11/26/2008 03:56:00 PM
George Carlin and Lenny Bruce would be proud of you. How you feelin' daddy? You over the flu bug yet?
"Teens sentenced to community service(i.e. broke the law/ got caught) will be monitoring police cameras to locate law breakers??? Am I the only one that sees the irony in that?
11/26/2008 09:09:00 AM"
Irony is too generous a term.
11/26/2008 03:55:00 PM
And would you want your kid having to testify in court due to being a witness to something? I wouldn't.
Let the police be the police. Jesus!
This is a pilot program introduced by 19th Ward Ald Rugai allowing citizens to volunteer to monitor POD cameras in the 22nd District CAPS office only under the direct supervision of a community policing officer. Volunteers undergo a background check before being allowed to operate any equipment (this includes any teen volunteers and their parent/guardian). Teens must be accompanied by their parent/guardian. The supervising officer will get event #s for various POD missions and those cameras will ACTUALLY BE MONITORED during those times. If volunteers see any suspicious/criminal activity, they notify the supervising officer who then checks it out and THE OFFICER NOTIFIES THE ZONE OR CALLS THE CELL PHONE OF AN AVAILABLE TACT UNIT (volunteers don't call 911 themselves). Why don't the supervising sworn personell just monitor the cameras themselves? There are 3 different stations that can be montitored at once and the sworn member is usually busy doing other work (reports, etc.) at the same time.
...It's not like you day watch MFs over there are blazing a trail to the hot calls or anything.
11/26/2008 04:11:00 PM
Perhaps workers are staying off the watch because of what a shithole it is when you have STROKES for bosses who micromanage you at every turn.
"Ok Jody, don't get your panties in a twist
11/26/2008 08:34:00 AM"
Why not, that's how I like 'em, all twisted and working their way up my ass crack.
I tip my cap to anyone who can live out and not get caught. More power to you and I hold no ill will.
I was talking about hetero babes to watch, so I'll stay south.
There is a lot of misinformation here. POD Watcher volunteers go through a background check like any other CAPS volunteer. The cameras are positioned in a way that makes it difficult/impossible to look in windows. Volunteers can only sign up for time slots when sworn members are working alongside them--no-one is unsupervised; that way, officers can get other work done (reports, etc.) while running POD missions where THE CAMERAS ARE ACTUALLY BEING MONITORED. Teens monitoring cameras are also background-checked and must be accompanied by their parent/guardian (who is also checked).
The article in which the officer's name appeared was written by a free-lance writer attending Bt 2222's beat meeting and took all information from the context of the meeting.
You're right SCC. I apologize. I had no right to call you out like that. I didn't realize that Joe was so ignorant as to actually speak to a media outlet. When someone does that and allows themselves to be quoted for public consumption, I guess that reflects badly on them and not the person who happens to read the article and point out the idiocy behind the idea.
Again, I apologize and will strive to improve my reading comprehension. I rode the short bus to school and have always had to struggle to actually succeed. I certainly hope it won't keep me from becoming an exempt on this job though.
If possible, I'd like to apologize in person, buy you dinner, maybe a drink or two. Perhaps you could mentor me in my pursuit of intelligence.
Southside 19-Paul
"If possible, I'd like to apologize in person, buy you dinner, maybe a drink or two. Perhaps you could mentor me in my pursuit of intelligence.
Southside 19-Paul
11/26/2008 08:58:00 PM"
You really don't have a clue, do you?
"I was talking about hetero babes to watch, so I'll stay south.
11/26/2008 08:03:00 PM"
You don't know what you're missing.
After all, it's not like you've got a shot at getting laid either way.
At least not by anyone you'd enjoy looking at naked, for more than a New York minute..
"If possible, I'd like to apologize in person, buy you dinner, maybe a drink or two. Perhaps you could mentor me in my pursuit of intelligence.
Southside 19-Paul
++++++++++++
Whoa, slow down there Brokeback. This is a family board.
The city is raping cell phone owners at the steep rate of $2.50 per month.
With nearly every adult in shitcago owning a phone, the amount taken in by the city theives could pay for OT to police officers to supplement short districts on their days off.
Anonymous said...
Breaking News Off Topic--Tact LT's Gone 1 Jan 09
11/26/2008 02:58:00 AM
What a blessing. 007s was a piece of work. Begone, bad lieutenant.
Learn to compassion before you are a manager.
Hey, ease off of Reynolds. Guess what? The inspectors monitor when the cars go to lunch, vs their assigned times. This comes out in a report, which filters down to the various cmdrs, and back to the WCs. If Keith is enforcing it, it's only because of the feedback for NOT enforcing it. Maybe some of you lazy strokes out in 005 should take your lunches closer to your assigned times, as they're posted on your roster, and quit whining. It's not like you day watch MFs over there are blazing a trail to the hot calls or anything.
11/26/2008 04:11:00 PM
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Take it from this Watch Commander. If this guy is doing what you say it is a.)because he wants to b.) because he is afraid of Inspectors.
The inspectors don't set lunch limit boundries nor do they care too much about assigned times as long as lunch is not taken near roll call/checkoff. If hes not man enough to say "Look, these guys work in the asshole of the city. Cut'em some slack" then fuck him.
Get your head out of the bosses ass.
"Shortage in 022"
It's an Irish thing. :-}
It has nothing to do with man power.
Hey Southside Paul, he said "fuck you" twice, (fuck you, fuck you)! Now step off.
Take shortshanks to dinner shorteyes.
I thought this was gonna be another blog about all those 5'4 dudes woking there. Why so many anyway? Must be that big hill on 111th st. giving some elevation.
Holy violate the US constitution Batman!!!
What lawful authority do these non-governmental volunteer citizens have to conduct public surveillance on mostly law abiding citizens?
What's in it for them?
Who and how are these peoples picked? Alderman, Da mayor, businesses people, Barack's family tree, or the CAPS office?
What kind of training is provided?
Where's the accountability?
Who supervises them and who is liable for allegations and acts of misconduct for selfish and perverted voyeurism?
Fuck'n perverts all of them!
I live in 022 and unfortunately the only time I really see a beat car riding around the district is if they're hitting a lunch spot or a 7-11. Maybe it's not the beat car's fault, because these fuckin dispatchers will send you to the ends of the earth to clear their board, but if they created a 2211a to STAY on the beat, the dispatchers should be ordered to keep the car ON the beat. Working folks need police to patrol the area too....
11/26/2008 12:49:00 PM
Your right, because we all know the only people in 022 with jobs live on YOUR beat! Shut the fuck up! If you don't like it bid to 022 get assigned to 2211 and patrol your own beat!
Hey, ease off of Reynolds. Guess what? The inspectors monitor when the cars go to lunch, vs their assigned times. This comes out in a report, which filters down to the various cmdrs, and back to the WCs. If Keith is enforcing it, it's only because of the feedback for NOT enforcing it. Maybe some of you lazy strokes out in 005 should take your lunches closer to your assigned times, as they're posted on your roster, and quit whining. It's not like you day watch MFs over there are blazing a trail to the hot calls or anything.
11/26/2008 04:11:00 PM
oh keith stop posting about yourself spineless douche bag
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Breaking News Off Topic--Tact LT's Gone 1 Jan 09
11/26/2008 02:58:00 AM
What a blessing. 007s was a piece of work. Begone, bad lieutenant.
Learn to compassion before you are a manager.
11/26/2008 11:07:00 PM
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Not pro or con the 007 Tact Lt., but I think I know what this is about. The Lt. can't give you unlimited "free" time off. This is a good example why you should be an adult and save some time on the books in case of emergency.
I apologize again SCC. From the bottom of by heart. I didn't mean to call you names because you posted a perfectly legitimate news article quoting someone who gave their name to the media. Please don't ban me.
I apologize, I apologize, I apologize, I apologize, I apologize, I apologize, I apologize, I apologize.
The REAL Southside 19-Paul
Dude, get a room.
Teens sentenced to community service(i.e. broke the law/ got caught) will be monitoring police cameras to locate law breakers??? Am I the only one that sees the irony in that?
11/26/2008 09:09:00 AM
Irony? You mean stupidity, don't you?
11/26/2008 02:48:00 PM,
11/26/2008 05:26:00 PM,
11/26/2008 05:29:00 PM,
11/26/2008 05:40:00 PM,
11/26/2008 05:41:00 PM,
11/26/2008 05:44:00 PM,
11/26/2008 05:45:00 PM,
11/26/2008 05:50:00 PM,
11/26/2008 05:52:00 PM,
11/26/2008 05:55:00 PM,
11/26/2008 05:56:00 PM,
11/26/2008 06:57:00 PM,
11/26/2008 10:01:00 PM,
11/26/2008 10:04:00 PM:
This is a disaster in the making.
"This is a disaster in the making.
11/28/2008 11:51:00 AM"
For whom?
"For whom?
11/28/2008 07:42:00 PM"
For 11/26/2008 02:48:00 PM, 11/26/2008 05:26:00 PM, 11/26/2008 05:29:00 PM, 11/26/2008 05:40:00 PM, 11/26/2008 05:41:00 PM, 11/26/2008 05:44:00 PM, 11/26/2008 05:45:00 PM, 11/26/2008 05:50:00 PM, 11/26/2008 05:52:00 PM, 11/26/2008 05:55:00 PM, 11/26/2008 05:56:00 PM, 11/26/2008 06:57:00 PM, 11/26/2008 10:01:00 PM, 11/26/2008 10:04:00 PM, and 11/28/2008 07:42:00 PM.
"11/29/2008 09:23:00 PM"
You could be right.
Or you could be wrong.
Time will tell.
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