Where'd the Street Deputies Go?
Someone pointed out in an e-mail that all the Street Deputies have been given other commands. We saw McNulty's name, but we have no idea who the others were. Have they eliminated the post and how much is that going to save?
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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New Commander of 25 Lopez also used to be a Street Deputy.
How can you save money when you created new exempt positions and promoted 13 people?
ADS Lopez is going to be commander of 25. Great boss.
Lopez got 025, heard Sandra Day is sick and about to retire, and Dean Andrews to Investigative Services? Commanders are to assume street deputies duties. That will come back to bite us in the ass, Lopez and McNulty were both great at police shootings, hate to have some of our merit commanders running a scene.
If you're a working cop, McNulty and Coffey were the bosses you wanted to show up at your shooting. Both knew their stuff and never bothered a working copper. I didn't see Deputy Sandra Days name anywhere on the order. Is Terry H still pulling strings for her?
The Street Deputies are history.
Just a few words about the Supt.
It appears everyone here gives the guy a bad rap. After nearly 30 yrs. o.t.j. he is the 1st. man to attempting to do the right thing for the street copper's.
This man has gone to bat for copper's who fucked up'ed and the current brass wanted to fire them.
His position was that the
incident(s) where all b.s. and the copper's made a an error in judgement. End of case.
He has nothing to do with our contract. You want to throw a beef. Hold F.O.P. to coals and picket them. The Supt. is attempting to get new vehicles, manpower, etc. The person responsible sits on the 5th. Floor of the hall.
Each and everyone of us should give thanks WE have a job. You guys read ! People are losing their asses and jobs.
Before you start ranting on me, I am a tenured street dick and never left the W/S my whole career.
So, S.T.F.U. about the Supt already.
McNulty, Lopez, and Andrews, were all Street Deputies. That leaves whats her name, I cant remember.
Hope not...had McNaulty on several police invilved shootings, a cool head who knows his stuff.
McNulty - D/C Special Functions
Lopez - Commander 25th District
Andrews - D/C D Unit Field Group B
Day - Extended medical - Will retire
Field Group C was eliminated
I tried to look at the new org chart. It was so OC that I almost puked. I did notice one thing that they need to change. The Org chart for the Dist level still has the Gang teams under the Dist Cmdr.
Make you all change that.
who the hell cares about the street deps. A bunch of political hacks with do nothing jobs.
On a related note we have been without a contract for 17 months now. The alderman of the city of Chicago just gave their staffs a 5% raise for the year. We have to wait years and pray to get 4% but thats if we get lucky. The aldermans bagmen get 5% for doing nothing and work 9-4 or 8-2 holidays and weekends off. just another reson to let this city burn.
yes they all have been eliminated, Mcnulty- Dep ChiefSpecial Functions, Andrews got Dep Chief Field Group B, Lopez got Commander 025, Sandra Day ??? nobody knows, BGGER ?? WHY DID THE FOREHEAD DUMP DEPUTY SUPT. Michael SHIELDS?? Hewason the stage with FOREHEADwhen he announced in Feb his master plan.
All street deputy posts were eliminated (S. Day demoted to Lt. but on Long Term Medical, D. Constantine Lateraled, P. McNulty Lateraled, B. Lopez demoted to Commander). Deputy Chief Patrol Administration eliminated. Deputy Superintendent BSD eliminated with the Assistant Deputy Superintendent. First Deputy Superintendent eliminated. 9 posts eliminated. 2 Assistant Superintendent Posts created, 2 Chief Posts Created, and previously created Chief of Homeland Security (P. Daly)with the Deputy Chief (B. Murphy) finally paid for with the elimination of the posts.
Hey oldtimer, I have a quick question for you. Weiss is helping the police? Please retire. I guess Bill Cozzi was a do nothing. Weiss and his fed arrogance is part to blame why Airhart died (I'm not saying Weiss personally I am saying the feds). Those who were on the scene know what I'm talking about.
When you retire please don't carry a gun. I'd hate to see you shoot somebody in Blue. Sir you clearly do not know the difference between the good guys and the bad guys anymore.
So, S.T.F.U. about the Supt already.
11/29/2008 12:27:00 AM
I could not agree with you more.
He is trying to do the right thing but the mayor is standing in his way, not to mention the current economic situation is preventing the purchase of new cars etc..
Anonymous said...
who the hell cares about the street deps. A bunch of political hacks with do nothing jobs.
On a related note we have been without a contract for 17 months now. The alderman of the city of Chicago just gave their staffs a 5% raise for the year. We have to wait years and pray to get 4% but thats if we get lucky. The aldermans bagmen get 5% for doing nothing and work 9-4 or 8-2 holidays and weekends off. just another reson to let this city burn.
11/29/2008 01:07:00 AM
Be patient. The City is talking money now with the FOP. That traditionally comes at the end of contract talks. I feel the end of these contract talks is near.
To: 11/29/2008 12:27:00 AM
You must be that one Detective that is on the Sups Police Team.
You are a tool.
This superintendent (I will not capitalize the name) is a tool as well. He is doing everything he can to fire as many coppers as he can. He is supposed to be the reformer of this Dept. He is NOT our friend. So you can go STFU yourself!
11/29/2008 12:27:00am.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BLOW ME!
To the tenured 30 year Det. You say that he has gone to bat for coppers that have made errors in judgement? Such as?Give us more information.you also say he has nothing to do with our contract. Fact is, the city wouldnt even meet until the new boss was hired after Cline left.
WHEN DOES A STREET DEPUTY RUN A SCENE!
ALL I EVER NOTICE IS THAT STREET DEPUTIES HAVE A DRIVER WHO ASK 4 COPIES OF PAPERWORK THEY DONT NEED.
TELL ME WHY THE STREET DEPUTY NEEDS
COPIES OF INVENTORY.
SEND THEM TO A CLASS ON HOW TO USE
CLEAR AND HOW TO MAKE COPIES.
EG. DEPUTY DO U HAVE ANY QUSETION ABOUT THE SHOOTING?
AHHHH NO IT SEEMS EVERYTHING WAS COVERED....
Who could ever forget when Sandra Day called a round table for shooting a dog.
McNulty VERY good and easy to talk to boss
It appears everyone here gives the guy a bad rap. After nearly 30 yrs. o.t.j. he is the 1st. man to attempting to do the right thing for the street copper's.
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Are you serious? This guy was brought in to fuck with coppers, not to fight crime. Do you remember Cozzi? Yes he's guilty, but a one count federal indictment. That was to send a message to the rank and file.
TENURED DET. said...
The Street Deputies are history.
Just a few words about the Supt.
It appears everyone here gives the guy a bad rap. After nearly 30 yrs. o.t.j. he is the 1st. man to attempting to do the right thing for the street copper's.
This man has gone to bat for copper's who fucked up'ed and the current brass wanted to fire them.
Can you give any examples of when he defended a officer? What has he really accomplished for street officers? Can you comment on his open town hall meetings? Did he control the promotions of incompetents such as Mealer in 017? Did he actually eliminate exempt positions? Maybe 3 positions? He created another useless mobile force....gangs. That stripped districts even more of any help. Most districts run with no cars available but as a detective, you would not know about district operations. Check your facts first old time detective.
This man has gone to bat for copper's who fucked up'ed and the current brass wanted to fire them.
His position was that the
incident(s) where all b.s. and the copper's made a an error in judgement. End of case.
Who the fuck are you talking about? Who didi he "save"...
Sandra Day has been on "extended medical leave" for over six months, yet was driving her nice, black take home car all over the place until just a few weeks ago. Did someone finally notice?
ADS to Commander, is a pay grade down.
ADS is the same pay grade as Deputy Chief.
So, S.T.F.U. about the Supt already.
11/29/2008 12:27:00 AM
suck hole.
How does one get tenure as a dick?
"Before you start ranting on me, I am a tenured street dick and never left the W/S my whole career."
Two words Asswipe, Bill Cozzi.
No rants needed you should your ass quite nicely...
Question, why was Lopez demoted with all of his experience? Why was Dean the Dream Andrews lateraled? He is an arrogant, pompous ass! A real slap in the face to Lopez, I'd be suprised if he stayed and settled for DC of 25.
12:27 AM ("TENURED DET."):
Whatever, WEIS-el. You have the credibility of a weasel.
An anonymous West side dick, eh? What's your next impersonation?
I won't hold my breath waiting for you to confidentially provide me with your actual identity, Jody Boy.
cpdfop7@yahoo.com
After nearly 30 yrs. o.t.j. he is the 1st. man to attempting to do the right thing for the street copper's.
Not this JOB, jackballs.....
Bye,bye Sal.Hope you enjoyed your time in 025. But not to worry. You will like 013. As a field Lt. Ha,ha,ha. Practice over the weekend saying "1390", not 2500. You will get used to it.That's what you get for being so arrogant and stupid!
Lopez got 025, heard Sandra Day is sick and about to retire, and Dean Andrews to Investigative Services? Commanders are to assume street deputies duties. That will come back to bite us in the ass, Lopez and McNulty were both great at police shootings, hate to have some of our merit commanders running a scene.
Lopez is Great. McNulty is getting a little nuts with his old age, and starting to interfere with the investigations to much instead of (Key word here) supervising them. But you are correct, better them than the merit commanders.
Holy Give the Guy a Break Batman!!!
To the dickhead friend of the J-clown who said"
[Just a few words about the Supt.
It appears everyone here gives the guy a bad rap. After nearly 30 yrs. o.t.j. he is the 1st. man to attempting to do the right thing for the street copper's.
Before you start ranting on me, I am a tenured street dick...]
Well what has j-fed done for the street coppers? I am still waiting buddy.
J-Fed has proven to be incompetent. Clearly he demonstrates daily his lack of police managerial experience & knowledge regarding issues effecting local law enforcement. His Federal expertise, experience and knowledge is useless here in Chicago.
In fact, he is trying to shape our organization into a hybrid federal law enforcement agency. A huge mistake. Why? You can't compare apples to oranges. The FBI does not respond to a wide spectrum of routine calls or social problems that real police officers deal with on a day to day basis.
If you examine the FBI's role & purpose in law enforcement it is much different. Why it is completely designed different? Read about the history of the FBI and why it was created and how it operates. This J-Fed ain't got a clue-- it's too late for him to catch up with on the job training.
You ask for more? Sure.
This proof is evident by the reversal of many dept policies and decisions he has made during his short tenure like yours detective.
The City Hall staffers who were selected to help this J-Fed guy did him up badly. The outcomes of their management style and decisions making having had only negative impacts on the depart's performance and contributed to escalating OUT-OF-CONTROL violence in this city.
It is clear to me and a majority of others on/off the job that obviously J-Clown’s first choices to help him lead this depart were exempts picked based solely on politics (a fed who walked into the lion's den) he should have known about Chicago's Corrupt Ways. This only proves he is extremely stupid which is perhaps the reason way Da Mayor wanted him.
No review, interviews or recommendations were made about J-Fed's credentials by the police board which has the lawful authority to select candidates for superintendent and make recommendations to the mayor. The proper and normal process was ignored and bypassed in favor of J-Fed who came out of nowhere. Why and for what reasons? Ask da mayor who forced this particular fed and not any others down all the alderwhores throats.
The truth of the matter is J-Fed can't do the job, neither can his handlers. This second round of exempt picks is only a desperate attempt to correct the uncorrectable.
When a leader lies to the rank-n-file, media and the citizens of Chicago all respect is lost for him. This restructuring of the district gang teams that supposedly included gang officer’s input is a blatant lie and everyone involved knows it. Why, I ask, lie in the first place? Lying is a weakness motivated to hide the truth. In J-Fed’s case, it is his personal failure at managing this police department into the ground. J-Fed now has resorted to lying because he has lost respect for himself and is too embarrassed to admit publicly his incompetence. He rather sink with the ship while prohibiting others to save themselves from his stewardship.
The Chicago model of law enforcement is a uniquely designed machine that operates like a finely tuned instrument ticking away daily for well over a hundred and fifty years. All police methods and procedures are based on the best practices of the day. Only an insider, a master craftsman with intimate knowledge and foresight could ever be allowed to tinker with this extremely complex system of culture, tradition and inspiration.
The problem we have after J-Fed is gone is finding someone to take over. Since all the good mechanics are gone and there are no instruction booklets for any one to follow. We will have to live with the political powers of today to make the replacement.
All well shit happens.
Detective your perceptive on managing police officers is bizarre. Many officers think detectives are smarter. From my experiences we all float out of the same cess pool called patrol I hope you stay out of police management and have a nice retirement!
>>>>>>Just a few words about the Supt.
It appears everyone here gives the guy a bad rap. After nearly 30 yrs. o.t.j. he is the 1st. man to attempting to do the right thing for the street copper's.
This man has gone to bat for copper's who fucked up'ed and the current brass wanted to fire them.
His position was that the
incident(s) where all b.s. and the copper's made a an error in judgement. End of case.<<<<<<<
Yea, like um..... COZZI?
By "Go to bat" I guess you mean "SEND TO PRISON"!!!
I think it's time to retire dude
The Street Deputies are history.
Just a few words about the Supt.
It appears everyone here gives the guy a bad rap. After nearly 30 yrs. o.t.j. he is the 1st. man to attempting to do the right thing for the street copper's.
This man has gone to bat for copper's who fucked up'ed and the current brass wanted to fire them.
His position was that the
incident(s) where all b.s. and the copper's made a an error in judgement. End of case.
He has nothing to do with our contract. You want to throw a beef. Hold F.O.P. to coals and picket them. The Supt. is attempting to get new vehicles, manpower, etc. The person responsible sits on the 5th. Floor of the hall.
Each and everyone of us should give thanks WE have a job. You guys read ! People are losing their asses and jobs.
Before you start ranting on me, I am a tenured street dick and never left the W/S my whole career.
So, S.T.F.U. about the Supt already.
11/29/2008 12:27:00 AM
Good comment go out do your job don't be a fuck up,I'm thankful for having a great job i've friends of mine well into their 40's who are getting fucked right now due to the economy etc.couldn't think of starting over/going through what they are experiencing now
The Street Deputies are history.
Just a few words about the Supt.
It appears everyone here gives the guy a bad rap. After nearly 30 yrs. o.t.j. he is the 1st. man to attempting to do the right thing for the street copper's.
This man has gone to bat for copper's who fucked up'ed and the current brass wanted to fire them.
His position was that the
incident(s) where all b.s. and the copper's made a an error in judgement. End of case.
He has nothing to do with our contract. You want to throw a beef. Hold F.O.P. to coals and picket them. The Supt. is attempting to get new vehicles, manpower, etc. The person responsible sits on the 5th. Floor of the hall.
Each and everyone of us should give thanks WE have a job. You guys read ! People are losing their asses and jobs.
Before you start ranting on me, I am a tenured street dick and never left the W/S my whole career.
So, S.T.F.U. about the Supt already.
I'm a tenured street Detective also and have always worked in the busiest Districts and Area and you are a tool. Are you kidding me! He's looking out for us. New cars, who gives a s#@t about new cars. What has he done for his officers since the day he got here?
MANPOWER! Your right 5th floor controls this, I agree. But, You make a new unit and pull 16-20 officers from every district to patrol the districts where the s@#theads live and leave are districts to be patrolled by skeleton units. Also taking these officers out, leaves our district officers with less backup in case they need help.
I also dont need you to tell me I need to give thanks I have a job! I earned this job and dont have to have someone like you tell me to be thankful, it goes without saying.
Went to bat for Officers? What about Cozzi? Whether you think Cozzi was right or wrong, he payed the price. Did his suspension, plead guilty and our Supt. had him federally indicted. You piss me off, stay off the blog you piece of s@#T!
If you dont want someone to rant on you, say something intelligent.
Each and everyone of us should give thanks WE have a job. You guys read ! People are losing their asses and jobs.
Before you start ranting on me, I am a tenured street dick and never left the W/S my whole career.
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Why should I give thanks i have a job? For my dead partners, all the injuries i have suffered on this job, time away from family due to shift work and holidays,the pay to play politics of this city and job,the soaring taxes due to all the theft,the fact that there is no change for the good but just for apperance sake.I don't have to give thanks for having a job! I took this job in spite of all the above B.S because I wanted to do the job and I knew it was layoff proof. So save your there but for the grace of God goes me speech for the civilians!
P.S You work the west side and never left, woop de doo for you!
hey 12:27 west side dic-- while it may seem apparent that the sup is trying to improve things and has come up against the " brick wall" set up by the fifth floor, how do you explain the cozzi incident. i call it a huge mistake made by this guy and he will never be able to gain any respect with the blue boys because of it.
Ya'll gots to cut costs. Way too many bosses not enough cops.
O.T.-----Who wants to start a pool, guessing how long it will take the media to catch on to the fact that the new commander of a/3 v/c (WHICH INVESTIGATES SEX CRIMES) is the Lt. from 18, who was charged with sexual assault in Michigan, and plead guilty to a reduced offense?
Is the fox in charge of the hen house?
Only in Chicago, Guess Petersen forgot that Homicide investigates sex, maybe he should've given him Property, or whatever they call it theses days....
Poor Jodi, he does'nt ask about the promotions his "TEAM" makes....
Maybe Petersen should join Shields and D.W. at area 3, he'd be good in Youth, or whatever they call it these days.
Anonymous said...
New Commander of 25 Lopez also used to be a Street Deputy.
How can you save money when you created new exempt positions and promoted 13 people?
11/29/2008 12:12:00 AM
11/29/2008 12:27:00 AM
Guess the comments about the supt were correct, he is trying to save money and finally on the obama detail did just that, all the extras are for 9161 only like it should be! The supt knows how much extra just base pay the dics and all the d-3 people make, that is why in Jan 2009 or there abouts all the special will be at 9161 rate it is only fair as hogs get fat and pigs go to slaughter! Thanks Boss waiting for 2009 when you show how to save the city millions and give the working coppers a little extra THANK YOU!
Here is a question maybe someone could answer.
Before Cline became sup...How many exempts spots were there?
When Cline took over...How many exempts spots did he create?
Basically I thought the Deptartment was just fine in a pre-Cline era. Its funny that the more powerful Daley has gotten the more top heavy the CPD has become.
Did he remove Lt. TW from a/3/v/c and replace him with DW from 18? If so where'd TW go?
Guess the comments about the supt were correct, he is trying to save money and finally on the obama detail did just that, all the extras are for 9161 only like it should be! The supt knows how much extra just base pay the dics and all the d-3 people make, that is why in Jan 2009 or there abouts all the special will be at 9161 rate it is only fair as hogs get fat and pigs go to slaughter! Thanks Boss waiting for 2009 when you show how to save the city millions and give the working coppers a little extra THANK YOU!
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I'm not so sure that I agree with this. You say that you are a working copper. Ok. I'll take you at your word on that. I am a working Sergeant, doing the job that I am assigned to do, just like you. There are dic's and other d-2's and d-2A's and d-3's who are also doing the jobs that they are assigned to, again, just like you. While I am happy that you, or anyone for that matter gets to work a special employment job, or a special detail, why should we not be able to work it? Because we are at a higher pay rate? I get penalized for that? I don't see the fairness there. You wrote this: "all the extras are for 9161 only like it should be!". Where does that attitude come from? Do you feel that way when you see a TMA doing a job that a sworn officer SHOULD be doing, taking money out of your pocket, or a potential job from someone? The beat cop has the most difficult (and important) and thankless job on the department. But we are all doing the jobs that we have, and are getting the pay that that position holds. Special should be open to everyone, on their day off and at time and a half.
Stay safe.
TENURED DET. said...
The Street Deputies are history.
Just a few words about the Supt.
It appears everyone here gives the guy a bad rap. After nearly 30 yrs. o.t.j. he is the 1st. man to attempting to do the right thing for the street copper's.
This man has gone to bat for copper's who fucked up'ed and the current brass wanted to fire them.
His position was that the
incident(s) where all b.s. and the copper's made a an error in judgement. End of case.
He has nothing to do with our contract. You want to throw a beef. Hold F.O.P. to coals and picket them. The Supt. is attempting to get new vehicles, manpower, etc. The person responsible sits on the 5th. Floor of the hall.
Each and everyone of us should give thanks WE have a job. You guys read ! People are losing their asses and jobs.
Before you start ranting on me, I am a tenured street dick and never left the W/S my whole career.
So, S.T.F.U. about the Supt already.
11/29/2008 12:27:00 AM
Respect the Rank not the man, Little Jody is not a police officer, never was and is in over his head.
Everyone has an opinion, but I doubt you have 30 years on. If you did you would look at jody as a SNAKE like anyone with 6 months or more does.
If you like him that much, tell him so. As for me I'll continue to turn my back to him every chance I get.
3oo thousand a year for little Jody, what a waste. Hey detective TELL ME HOW HIS ASS TASTE!!!!!
Don't talk about little Jody, he helps coppers all over the place. Hey Detective TELL ME HOW HIS ASS TASTE!
FUCK Little JODY!!!!!!
Hey lilttle Richard GET MY MONEY BITCH!
ADS Lopez is going to be commander of 25. Great boss.
11/29/2008 12:13:00 AM
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THAT IS A DUMP . . From D-7 pay to D-6 pay.. not to mention working in that SHITHOLE 025.
O.t.---Can anyone elaborate on future of the gang teams any further? I am gang officer in Area 1 and really don't have a clue what the future holds for us. Are we goin to Homan Square are we staying home in our district? Anyone with half a clue and not some bitter copper answers would be greatly appreciated. I just thought maybe a sit down or meeting to give us a sense of direction to those of us that may be moved our have our schedules turned upside down would be nice. I am by no means complaining about where I currently am assigned. I am lucky to have a spot on a gang team and wouldn't trade it right now. Just lookin for some answers!
Stop trying to lick Lopez's boots. LAPA is why he got to where he is. You think he's so great... put him in a room with a bunch of other brass and he just goes along with the program. Don't think for a minute he would stand against the others for YOU.
So you have 30 years on he job and are a tenured Det. Are you goofy or what. I've been a Det. for 36 plus years and I am not nor is any one else tenured. I worked and grew up on the westsside. The westside is not shit and has been for years. I had enough brains to get out and stop wallowing in shit. The shit will evedentually seep into your mind.
I can remember sitting in on one of his "TALK TO THE TROOPS" meetings when he came to 011's third watch roll call and one of his topics of discussion was: don't lose your integrity by lying,because once you tell a lie you now have no integrity.It appears to me Judy,aahh sorry Jody has been telling a lot of non-truths lately.What was that you said about Lies/integrity Mr. Jody???????
Could somebody explain to me what the hell is a "tenured detective". I have been a detective for 8 years. Does that make me tenured or do I have to be an arrogant pompous ass who thinks that time and location actually mean something. You can be in a busy place and still do nothing but be a loudmouth or you can be in a quieter place and do your job quietly.
Who is going to override the A.S.A.'s now, when the A.S.A. don't have the balls to bring proper charges against an offender?
Before you start ranting on me, I am a tenured street dick...]
where do you work ass wipe. I have been a detective for over twenty years and after what they did to Bill Cozzi you have the gall to call this guy a friend. You are a pos. My area is always short detectives, squad cars and radios.
The other day we had ten people five teams with out cars. Yea they put gps in all the junk cars but youth, robbery, homicide is unable to get a pool car.
The districts never call to borrow a car any more because we have none. They have been taken by the special units. Now we cant come in a take a squad to court because if we do the guys working will not have a car. Where I work we have three guys assigned to the same car on the same shift.
We do not have enough radios and we have batteries that last for two hours or less. We had a hbt incident and every ones radio was dead after ten hours.
We have no computers, our investigation are interfered with by the idiots from narcotics who have no respect. No room to work, interview, interrogate. You are doing line ups and narcotics walk in and leave their prisoners who start banging on the wall, screaming which is immediately recorded by the video system, and then the witnesses have the shit scared out of them. Yea joe citizen really wants to be exposed by that bullshit.
You start a report and some clout baby narc takes over your computer because you stepped away to inventory something in the watch commanders office.
We have to buy are own files, paper clips, white out, because the outside units take everything from the area. No prisoner property bags, inventory or money bags taken by the narcotic goofs.
Look at the merit sgts now assigned to the detective division.
Slowly J-Fed is fucking up investigative services just like he did the patrol division. Idiot's like ernie brown are now the rule not the exception.
J-Fed has screwed over patrol were we all come from. The street people deserve the best, not some low bid piece of shit. Bring back motor maintenance, give them cars, computers, radios any resources to make there job easier.
Walk into any station you see nothing but female desk officers.
Rotate all p/os through the desirable positions.
This once proud department will not change until J-Fed is fired and in this country I am sure there is at least one or two career police officials, my choice would be RAMSEY, who could save the TITANIC from going down..
Isn't it ironic that it a city like Chicago that the #2 mqn in Oganized Crime is someone with the name of Roti.
Could he be related to the 1st ward crime boss?
There are enough of them on the city payroll as revealed by the sumtimes a while back. Did they miss him?
Extra base pay. Listen idiot 17 years on the job I can't even get the airport. I'm not complaining be happy you have a job.The overtime in the D-UNIT is not like it use to be, so shut-up.
Monique Bond will be giving a demonstration at H.Q. on how to put lipstick on a pig.
Anonymous said...
Sandra Day has been on "extended medical leave" for over six months, yet was driving her nice, black take home car all over the place until just a few weeks ago. Did someone finally notice?
11/29/2008 08:28:00 AM
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Sandra Day was told to retire pronto or face possible 30 pending for using her city car constantly while on the medical. She is not one of the smarter cookies in the jar.
"11/29/2008 10:46:00 AM"
That was the smoothest, most polished and elegant piece of bitch slapping that I have ever seen posted here.
Jody, (and the anonymous 'street dick), you have just been bitch slapped by the best.
Savor this.
hate to have some of our merit commanders running a police shooting scene.
11/29/2008 12:15:00 AM
Imagine the burger queen or her mumblimg tac lietutenant.
Guess the comments about the supt were correct, he is trying to save money and finally on the obama detail did just that, all the extras are for 9161 only like it should be! The supt knows how much extra just base pay the dics and all the d-3 people make, that is why in Jan 2009 or there abouts all the special will be at 9161 rate it is only fair as hogs get fat and pigs go to slaughter! Thanks Boss waiting for 2009 when you show how to save the city millions and give the working coppers a little extra THANK YOU!
11/29/2008 02:25:00 PM
I agree 150%, the d-3 guys which are all of daleys guys,the treasuers, and eddie burkes all make 15-18K More per year base than we do with a 2on 3 off schedule (burkes, the mayors 1 on 1 off, with all my special i will make about 18K extra for working extra while the hogs make it in a regular watch. The dics they make lots of overtime, and with the extremely low clerance rates maybe they need to put their heads into clearing cases! No reason to flame the post the truth is we do not get paid "extra" to do your jobs, why should you be paid a higher rate to do "our jobs?" AGAIN KUDOS TO THE SUPT FOR MAKING IT ALL 9161 PAY RATE IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GET FUCKED IT IS OUR TURN NOW,SUCKS TO BE YOU!
I do not feel sorry for even 1 exempt. They all sell their souls and balls for that fucking Gold Star. After the first round of exempts dumps they all should of banded together to make Jed-Fed feel unwanted and his job impossible. But no, a lot of the exempt inner circle did a lot of back stabbing to get a better stop.
Fuck all exempts especially Weis!!!!
I agree, Jfed lost much credibility when he BF'd Cozzi over to his Fed buddies. I also heard he was on the SWAT team that left Joe Airhart lying wounded for two hours.
I can also sense his frustration, he was probably promised much in the way of funding and Mayor D is BFing him.
But, we are very lucky to have a high paying (yes, we are highly paid) job.
Many places are cutting salaries along with benefits. In many ways we are lucky in only our benefits are slipping. My wife's bene's are almost gone and the emp's contribution is triple ours if we took the coverage.
But, cops bitch the most about everything.
11/29/2008 08:28:00 AM
They have her gasoline records. She was filling up the take home car quite often while on extended medical. Let's see if she gets 30 pending!
Is the new commander of A/3 sex crimes a convicted sex offender from michigan.? I guess after they put E. Brown in charge of OCD nothing should suprise me.
tenured w/s dick:
job finally got to you. pull the plug now and make a lot of people happy!!!!
Dean Andrews...did he ever arrest anyone in his career? Did he ever investigate any crime? Did he ever testify in court or go to the grand jury? Just inquiring.
RE: TENURED DET. said... The Street Deputies are history. Just a few words about the Supt.
Answer:
AHH! J-FED!!! And here we thought you didn't read the blog.
You can put your real identity down if you like. You don't have to pretend to be a TENURED DETECTIVE, or is that what you were referred to as a Fed?
You are not one of us!!!!
Any rumors about Lts promotions?
If there are no more Street Deputies, who is going to sit around the Western Avenue Taverns on Duty, in Full uniform, drinking?????
It's not just COZZI. The Supt. is appealing cases in which the board opted NOT to fire POs. If the board opted not to fire the officers, why is J-Fed trying to find a way around that? I've heard that in one case, the board voted a perfect 9-0 NOT to fire an officer. That's a pretty rare occurrence. What does J-Fed know about that case that the Board doesn't know? Or is Kirby pulling the strings?
Speaking of cutting the "fat", why would he opt to keep C. Andrews in the exempt ranks as a Deputy Chief of Detectives? Was Andrews all that effective when he was Cmdr of Area 5? And what about his decision to promote Downtown Brown after demoting him this past March?
Does anyone fail to see a very shakey line of executive decision making here? And last, why did he decide to split up the powers of the 1st Deputy and initiate two "Asst. Supts?" Will this result in more confusion or less?
Has either one of the people appointed to these two "new" positions been seen as particularly effective in their old positions? Does anyone think that making Aunt Bea half of the number 2 position on this job was a smart move? I didn't think so.
WE ARE A DEPT. IN TOTAL CHAOS. WHEN IS THE MAYOR GOING TO STEP IN AND STOP THIS MADNESS? HOW LONG WILL THE REST OF THE COUNTRY HAVE TO LAUGH AT THE VACUUM OF LEADERSHIP HERE AT THE CPD?
Anonymous said...
who the hell cares about the street deps. A bunch of political hacks with do nothing jobs.
On a related note we have been without a contract for 17 months now. The alderman of the city of Chicago just gave their staffs a 5% raise for the year. We have to wait years and pray to get 4% but thats if we get lucky. The aldermans bagmen get 5% for doing nothing and work 9-4 or 8-2 holidays and weekends off. just another reson to let this city burn.
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Coming from a guy that has never needed a Street Deputy for sure Keep pushing you northside beat car. Hope you never have to pull your weapon and actually fire at someone, because the idiots that run the districts up there will have your head spinning.
McNulty and Lopez were both tops. Had each at one of my four shootings. I will take those 2 over 90% of the D/C's any day of the week. Especially some of these retarted D-Unit guys who run the shooting scenes and especially the 3rd watch Captain in 007. At least they(McNulty and Lopez) know how to treat an officer like someone who was involved in a traumatic event rather then an offender.
Street Deputies are needed PERIOD!
025 Lopez!!!....He now can get his Gang Banging Nephew directly out of SH!& instead of getting a call to come in while he was Street Dep. If you lock up his nephew be prepared to have him tell you to let him go....
"WE ARE A DEPT. IN TOTAL CHAOS. WHEN IS THE MAYOR GOING TO STEP IN AND STOP THIS MADNESS? HOW LONG WILL THE REST OF THE COUNTRY HAVE TO LAUGH AT THE VACUUM OF LEADERSHIP HERE AT THE CPD?
11/29/2008 09:16:00 PM"
Are you drunk?
The mayor is the source of this madness.
"If there are no more Street Deputies, who is going to sit around the Western Avenue Taverns on Duty, in Full uniform, drinking?????
11/29/2008 08:13:00 PM"
Don't concern yourself, someone will step up to the plate.
"Just lookin for some answers!
11/29/2008 03:54:00 PM"
1. You're asking the wrong questions. About the wrong things.
2. Even if someone gave you the right questions to ask, you wouldn't understand either the questions or the answers.
3. You've got a strange sense of what being lucky means.
4. Could you recognize someone with 'half a clue'? How about someone with a whole clue?
5. And do you feel bitter, yet? (Have patience, you will.)
6. Did it ever occur to you to just ask your fellow 'I feel lucky' officers, or would that be too much of a risk, to you, of making a fool out of yourself?
7. And didn't it ever occur to you to just ask one of those 'bitter' officers, who, maybe, might know what the fuck they're talking about? Just this one time? Maybe?
8. Didn't you get the memo?
9. You do realize that, working the gangs requires you to be smarter than the bangers, don't you?
10. At least a bit smarter.
"Its funny that the more powerful Daley has gotten the more top heavy the CPD has become.
11/29/2008 03:02:00 PM"
Funny 'ha-ha' or funny 'strange'?
not related i've known him most of his life. he's too much of a b-tch to be related
In defense of the "tenured" detective...I don't agree with everything that you said, but I know the following:Not once in my decades of service had I seen a letter written in defense of one of our own...I mean Mette....after one of our own was convicted. Ever. The conviction was wrong, but still, the Supt. wrote the letter. The Supt. should get credit here. More so because he welcomed Mette back with open arms.The Supt. has repeatedly requested equipment and manpower, but his hands are tied by a budget shortfall. We know this, but are just mad as hell that we are still without resources that we need.The Supt. does not control our contract negotiations. He participates, but ultimately does not make contract decisions. The lawyers do.I know I will get ripped for saying this, but...I am tired of the C**zi ranters. Was C**zi wrong? Yep. By his own admission. Did he serve his administrative punishment? Yep. (Key word: administrative) Did his actions still, as the rest of us do, if and when we do something stupid, if not illegal, potentially face "another look" from the criminal prosecutors down the road, especially given what was taped and our current work environment? Absolutely.Everybody has a bad day. C**zi apparently had one. To every sworn C**zi supporter: Look in the mirror and ask yourself, "On a bad day, would I do what C**zi did." If you can say "yes," then please find a nice quiet place to work 99 for the remainder of your career as your potential actions may not only put your career on the line, but may also risk the career/health/well-being of your partner's career and life. More and more, officers are looked upon as easy lawsuit prey (civil and criminal). Don't give them a reason to look at you...and they will have none. Do your job, stay safe, and CYA.
There is a Ray of hope for all of you wanna-be tenured detectives if you could read between-the-lines...good luck to all, and to all, Good Night...
Holy Cow Clint Eastwood! You sound like one bad mother fucker! I hope I don't see someone as tough as you up north. I bet all you have to do is make a scary face at the bad guys and they go running. SOFT!!!
To: 5 to 10 year WODERBOYS. How about this, Fuck Cozzi, the idiot "tunes up" a perp on video !!!
Also, you fucks never hear anything about the Supt. going out of his way for copper' who make a b.s mistake. You know why ? Because it never goes to 30-pending.The old guard would hang them out to dry you fucking morons.
The Supt SHOULD gut the entire command staff and hire from the outside. The likes of the great heros of the job; Patrolman Joe, Chuck Ramsey, Barney Flanagan, etc are long gone.
The only true leaders left over are McNulty and McCotter.
Cline amd mumbles Hillard fucked up this dept and the Supt is trying to fix it.
90 % of the sworn working today could not last 30 days in the private sector.
Rank on PUNKS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and really STFU.
Have a nice day earning 50 % more then you should be paid.
One last thing....newbies, you are responsible for the lack of respect we once had from the perps on the street. You let the mutts talk you all down and walk away like the gumps you are.
where do you work ass wipe. I have been a detective for over twenty years
We have to buy (are) own files, paper clips, white out, because the outside units take everything from the area. No prisoner property bags, inventory or money bags taken by the narcotic goofs.
J-Fed has screwed over patrol (were) we all come from.
Looks to me as if you were a merit promotion,who else could be so stupid,and destroy the english language so badly,your post is an insult to any intelligent officer,and you say you are a dick...please dont work on any of my cases!
What an Idiot!!!!
'TENURED?" What the fuck is this asswipe phony talking about? Teachers get tenure in Chicago, not cops. Here's your tenure, right here in this bag of bag of trail mix, you suck-off blowjob. I'm sure you're taking home the paycheck from the spot someone else earned the right way. You merit fuck. Go buy some more tenure. What's it up to a pound these days? Rumour has it Rugai's tenure is dirt cheap cause she takes the money and runs.
Look F.H. from 004 a total dumb ass he is in helicopter unit he is not even a pilot
Was C**zi wrong? Yep. By his own admission. Did he serve his administrative punishment? Yep. (Key word: administrative) Did his actions still, as the rest of us do, if and when we do something stupid, if not illegal, potentially face "another look" from the criminal prosecutors down the road,
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Wrong again dumb dumb. Cozzi pled guilty in a court of Criminal Law in Cook County. Received two years probation for Simple Battery, apologized in open court to the victim, completed all the required anger management courses and Community Service hours, then stayed out of trouble for the full two years of probation, never once asking for a reduction in sentence.
The Police Board gave him a two year suspension and Cline lost in court trying to overturn that into 30 pending.
And now he faces 8 years in the federal pen because J-Fed has a tiny penis and needed to set an example with something while a Cline favorite kills people on camera, another almost rapist is going to be a lieutenant, another one runs the sex unit at Area 3? You think there might have been a better example somewhere?????
Hey 12:15--One thing I don't understand is your fucking half ass excuse for an answer to my question. I was simply a fellow policeman looking for some direction with the new gang teams, not some northside piece of garbage who went to college and feels like he is better than anyone and is upset that he's a copper and can only get an honorable mention for his crim trespass to vehicle up in 023. I realize how smart you are now!! God i'm impressed with the way you laid out the answers to a fellow policeman who was just looking for a hand. Hope you feel better you fuck. I guess I shouldn't feel lucky to be part of a good team of dependable policemen in a working district,with good furlos and time off-- with all the shit and low morale right now. You make me sick and God, I hope you still get the backup you obviously don't deserve up in your district where you don't do shit. One thing I do understand is asshole coppers like you that complain about all and drag this dept. further down. FUCK YOU-- DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT??
11/30/2008 06:00:00 AM
Your right and j-fed tried to impress mayor mcmubles and the mayor told him he does not give a shit about what he did to Cozzi. No hero bars for j-fed but now a MAN is facing 8 years federal time for NOTHING! And you want us to work? Take the msf,leo's bullshit boys,tru etc and everything else sorry we do not want to end up like Cozzi!
To every sworn C**zi supporter: Look in the mirror and ask yourself, "On a bad day, would I do what C**zi did." If you can say "yes," then please find a nice quiet place to work 99 for the remainder of your career as your potential actions may not only put your career on the line, but may also risk the career/health/well-being of your partner's career and life. More and more, officers are looked upon as easy lawsuit prey (civil and criminal). Don't give them a reason to look at you...and they will have none. Do your job, stay safe, and CYA.
11/30/2008 12:37:00 AM
Not hard to find a 99 unit. Almost every car is a one man. Most officers slowed down after Cozzi incident. Despite your ramblings, Cozzi punishment had a huge impact on beat officers. Nothing scares a officer more than violation of civil rights, a federal charges that is very expensive to defend. That could happen to anyone. UNLESS you are a white shirt. Exempts are never charged and instead promoted. In previous blog posts, numerous examples were cited of white shirts who violated the law without punishment. Even Sandra Day is allowed to retire without punishment. I will sit alone in my neat car, answering one job at a time. Best defense is to follow your advice.
Street Deputies are gone because their function died with the new shooting/rountable procedures. McNulty, Coffey, and retired ADS Tim Daley were the best in these situations. Who ya gonna get now? Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes Roti is related to the former Alderman. Also related to John Gotti , Al Capone and Harold Washington. Shut the fuck up!!
He's been the real police for over twenty years. Try and find someone that worked with or for him that doesn't agree and you won't.You two year wonders kill me.
tenured dick?
My ass. Troll.
What's tenure? and what's a "PERP"
30 years o.j.t ???
Did you write this garbage J-pud?
fire yourself for lying to a pud.
i have read some very insightful comments on this thread. the real thing that i fear is that a police officer will hesitate to react in a dangerous situation for fear of getting into trouble down the line when they are second guessed to death. that hesitation will result in the officer being seriously injured or killed. this is why the cozzi incident raised so many eyebrows. you have an established procedure via the police board to reinstate the officer by an 8-1 vote. then he is trumped by j-fed. why did j-fed lie about this in the beginning. remember, he said he had nothing to do with it, then changed his story when it was discovered he was lying thru his teeth. he knew what he did was wrong to this officer and he cut his own throat. cozzi will be the first of many which is why this guy has to go. only the softballs will work for this clown.
The Department requested permission to promote 20 Lts. immediately after the election, as of yet the Mayors Office of Budget has not given its blessing. Rumor has it going in before Xmas?
If you are in a street shooting now, you will be begging for the street deputies to come back. McNulty was the greatest person to have on scene of a police shooting. Now you will deal with the district commanders. Depending on their background they could help or fuck up everything. Losing the street deputies was the worst thing that could have happened.
Dean Andrews...did he ever arrest anyone in his career? Did he ever investigate any crime? Did he ever testify in court or go to the grand jury? Just inquiring.
11/29/2008
No to all of your questions.
"I am a tenured street dick"
What in holy fuck is a tenured street dick? Anyone claiming to be that is also a big gaping orifice.
I am a tenured beat car operator. Suck my big hairy tenured dick.
The better question that needs to be answered regarding the proposed restrictions to Special Employment, is whether the City of Chicago is saving money by restricitng overtime to title code 9161. Are we all drinking the kool aid? We need to wake up, and eliminate the dissension among the ranks. The City of Chicago is not footing the bill for any special Employment initiatives, e.g. CTA, CHA, LaSalle Bank, Federal Government. Show me one overtime initiative that the City of Chicago funds? Exactly, there are none! Ted O'Keefe is the mastermind behind this snafu. Ted, go back to the priesthood because I'm not working for free!
Did he control the promotions of incompetents such as Mealer in 017?11/29/2008 08:10:00 AM
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Why is Mealer incompetent? Seems to be one of the best bosses at getting the best out of his men in 017!
Hey OLD and i mean OLD timer i think its time for you to hang it up. or are you one of those dumb old guys who cant retire because they are supporting their 3rd family
Before you start ranting on me, I am a tenured street dick...]
where do you work ass wipe. I have been a detective for over twenty years and after what they did to Bill Cozzi you have the gall to call this guy a friend. You are a pos. My area is always short detectives, squad cars and radios.
Please where do YOU work? Old timer DICK.
You buy your own paper clips? You sign out a car off duty to go to court? You must be soft and have no business at any HBT incident.
There are plenty of babies in OCD but like everywhere else a few workers who are trying to do the right thing.
If you are truly a tenured detective then you are good at crossword puzzles, Sudoku, surfing the web, and all the local cheap places to eat. While your ass and belly grows from inactivity. From a Detectives own mouth “THE D-UNIT IS JUST LIKE THE WATCH, YOU’VE GOT A LOT OF DOGS AND A HANDFUL OF HARD CHARGERS DOING MOST OF THE WORK.”
So don’t knock guys who actually want to fill the interview rooms with bad guys who know a lot about old murders and shootings that you never cared to even open up the file on… Becoming a detective doesn’t mean you get to retire.
BUT, I do agree with you on the Cozzi thing. I don't trust him at all. At least we agree on some things.
Hey working sarge SHUT UP!!!!!
Anonymous said...
So, S.T.F.U. about the Supt already.
11/29/2008 12:27:00 AM
I could not agree with you more.
He is trying to do the right thing but the mayor is standing in his way, not to mention the current economic situation is preventing the purchase of new cars etc..
11/29/2008 06:33:00 AM
Ha Ha Ha. Both of these posts obviously wrote by Jody himself or one of his kiss ass right hand men. Too fucking funny....
Anonymous said...
Guess the comments about the supt were correct, he is trying to save money and finally on the obama detail did just that, all the extras are for 9161 only like it should be! The supt knows how much extra just base pay the dics and all the d-3 people make, that is why in Jan 2009 or there abouts all the special will be at 9161 rate it is only fair as hogs get fat and pigs go to slaughter! Thanks Boss waiting for 2009 when you show how to save the city millions and give the working coppers a little extra THANK YOU!
11/29/2008 02:25:00 PM
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Since you are so concerned about saving the city millions, I have a suggestion to help do your part. I say for special employment the city should ignore pay scales and seniority altogether. I say all 9161's earn first year ppo rate for special. That way we can really save tax payer money. We really don't need your 20 years of experience to man a post, so why pay for it?
I also say ignore seniority because overwhelmingly as we all know most 20 year 9161's don't qualify as "working coppers" and don't do jack shit whilst working let alone while working special employment on their days off.
Give special to people who will do it at first year ppo rate and will do a good job not some 20 year punkass 9161.
Put that in your crack pipe and smoke it!
Hey working sarge SHUT UP!!!!!
11/30/2008 03:24:00 PM
Thank you for the well thought out response. Your parents, after paying for you to drink your way to an 11 semester, 1.90 GPA geography degree should be proud of you. Get off of the computer, Mommy is bringing your dinner down the stairs.
"why did j-fed lie about this in the beginning. remember, he said he had nothing to do with it, then changed his story when it was discovered he was lying thru his teeth. he knew what he did was wrong to this officer and he cut his own throat. cozzi will be the first of many which is why this guy has to go. only the softballs will work for this clown.
11/30/2008 12:22:00 PM"
Because jodi is a liar.
That's was clinched it for him, when mumbles was convinced that jodi could lie through his teeth with a smile on his face.
And do what he's told.
I'm confused?
Who's the best cop!
Who's the best cop!
To 10:31 am. Believe it or not, you made my point for me. As to not be the "dumb dumb" as you wrote, what I meant about "another look" is exactly what you have pointed out - federal review. I don't agree with how it happened nor why it happened. I agree that C***zi stood up when called upon to account for his actions and accepted the penalties for doing so. We have all seen the system work and would agree, based upon your outline of what C***zi did to abide by his sentence and conditions of suspension, that he did more to "take his medicine" than most of the people we lock up who are guilty and skirt their conditions of probation without repercussions. WE all have countless examples.
Ultimately, the point I was trying to make is that those of us pointing to C**zi as a rallying cry to be upset should realize that at the end of the day, he put himself in that position. And again, that we must all consider his position a possibility IF we make such a mistake. If you want to make a point about unfair treatment, take a look at some of our own lamenting away in purgatory(aka Callback) There are members there who have not done anything wrong - civil, criminal or otherwise - who are awaiting the hammer of suspension or termination. Why not highlight one of these cases? That is all.
NICK ROTI is NOT related to the Roti crime family!! His name is a shortened version of some Italian name. That is why he was not included in the Sun Times piece. He has no relations to the mob. Try and use your pea fucking brain and research something before you put it on here. Or maybe grow some balls and ask the man.
Look F.H. from 004 a total dumb ass he is in helicopter unit he is not even a pilot
11/30/2008 05:05:00 AM
You're right moron! He isn't a pilot. He is however a certified FAA airframe and power plant mechanic. FAA stands for Federal Aviation Administration, you know the people who know a lot about things related to aviation. What qualifications do you hold to question his ability to perform his duties in an aviation unit?
By the way, I am a former helicopter crewman, prior service, US Army Aviation. Im confident FH is more than qualified to be in the unit. Keep your uninformed bullshit opinions to yourself.
Yea Rotti not connected! He earned everything. Keep studying kid, maybe, someday you too can be promoted to exempt w/o knowing anyone nor having any relationship. Cook County is all for the taking!
Hero is a word that has never been associated with Barney Flanagan. Mentioning him in the same sentence with Joe McCarthy is a disgrace. PERP!!!!
"...another almost rapist is going to be a lieutenant, another one runs the sex unit at Area 3?"
And who is better qualified to lead a proper sex crime investigation than someone who has experience in committing and evading punishment for sex crimes? Jody made a bold decision here, my friend.
The important question is who will take the helm of the "entertainment" detail?? That ship is headed for the breakers unless the ever sober Lt. "Fire Extinguisher to the Head" returns into the folds.
Anonymous said...
Street Deputies are gone because their function died with the new shooting/rountable procedures. McNulty, Coffey, and retired ADS Tim Daley were the best in these situations. Who ya gonna get now? Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brother, you remember Dukey Daley! You have been on a while! You are right, he was the best. He handled one of my shootings and I was grateful. I have seen both Coffey and McNulty at shootings, both were excellent. We may be lost without street deputies like them
yes FH has all the paper you mentioned. You left out the important qualification, he's got clout.
"Dean Andrews...did he ever arrest anyone in his career?"
once or twice during our role plays in the academy, i think....or was he too busy matching up his two identical pens for our home room instructor?
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