Tuesday, December 23, 2008

FOID Cards

  • All members should be aware that, effective January 1, 2009, the Department intends to take disciplinary action against members who do not possess valid FOID cards. All members who do not possess valid cards should apply prior to the January 1st date. Members should keep a copy of the application with them and present it when requested until they receive their new card.
Rumor says the thinking behind this is that as a sworn peace officer on-duty, you are not required by law to have an FOID card on your person.

Off-duty, however, you are subject to different rules and must have a valid FOID on you if you are carrying.

Check your cards. We don't know if the State Police send out the renewal reminders like they used to, but better safe than sorry.

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93 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

check your DLs too, you may have phantom unpaid parking tickets or emmission test suspension.

12/23/2008 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is the cpd going to change state law before they enact this new rule. it has never been a requirement for a peace officer to have a foid card.

12/23/2008 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re-newed mine when I got the paper from the ISP. Got it back, with an error on the card.

Tried to call the number in Springfield, and all it does is ring and ring.

Wonder if anyone will catch the error.

Made the correction via the States web-site anyway

12/23/2008 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you, SCC. It'll be the first thing I do today.

I'm sure our DEPARTMENT hasn't bothered to put out a notice or anything...

12/23/2008 01:05:00 AM  
Blogger Det. Shaved Longcock said...

I say send your renewal form in as early as possible before Blago raises the FOID Card fee to $100.00!

12/23/2008 01:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is bull shit anyone who knows the law will tell you, on duty you are not required to carry FOID as sworn law officer because you are exempt from the provisions. As a law enforcement official you are NEVER off duty so it would not apply, let dept take action then sue

12/23/2008 02:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And Remember to join the NRA and buy a gun a month.

12/23/2008 05:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They haven't been sending renewal reminders.

12/23/2008 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous HATER said...

ILL WAIT AND LET THE SGT SPEND A COUPLE OF HOURS TYPING.

WAIT CAN I BE OFF OF WORK TILL I SEND IN FOR IT TOO!

I NEED A MONTH OFF I NEED 2 FIND MYSELF THIS BLAGO THING IS REALLY THROWING ME OFF.

12/23/2008 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If an on duty Officer does not require an FOID Card but an off duty does, that must mean that I'm not the Police when I'm off duty,right? That must mean that I'm not subject to any of the Rules and Regualtions of the Chicago Police Department when I'm off duty,right? Because off duty, I'm no longer considered a Police Officer, right? And what if I don't carry off duty? Why do I need an FOID Card?
This could only happen in Chicago. Another ruling plucked out of thin air by a brain dead command staff.

12/23/2008 07:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOID does NOT send out reminders. and you do NOT need to send in a photo--they use your D/L photo from the computer

12/23/2008 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is the cpd going to change state law before they enact this new rule. it has never been a requirement for a peace officer to have a foid card.

12/23/2008 12:33:00 AM

State law was changed a couple of years ago. When off duty, YOU MUST have a valid FOID card. If you leave the gun in your locker while not at work you are exempt. On your way to or from work/ court however, you are considered off duty until you arrive/ and once you exit the building therefore are required to be in possession of an FOID card. That goes for any firearms in the home also.

12/23/2008 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re-newed mine when I got the paper from the ISP. Got it back, with an error on the card.

Tried to call the number in Springfield, and all it does is ring and ring.

Wonder if anyone will catch the error.

Made the correction via the States web-site anyway

12/23/2008 12:39:00 AM

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Got an error on mine also, where were you able to make the correction? Looked on the website and could only find the renewal form.

12/23/2008 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

498 & 499

2 shot, one fatally, on South Side
December 23, 2008 at 6:17 AM |

Two people were wounded, one fatally, in a shooting on Chicago's South Side Monday evening.

Kermet Delashment, 21, of the 9100 block of South Wentworth, was declared dead at 8:40 p.m. Monday at Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn, according to the Medical Examiner's office.

Two victims were shot in the 200 block of West 91st Street, said Chicago police spokesman John Mirabelli.

One of the two was shot in the chest, he said. It is not clear where the other victim was shot. Police did not provide further details.


Teen killed on Southwest Side
December 23, 2008 at 7:06 AM |

A 15-year-old boy was fatally shot Monday night on the Southwest Side, authorities said.
Police responded to a report of a shooting in the 3000 block of South Avers Avenue about 8:50 p.m. and found a boy shot in the head, Officer Daniel O'Brien said.

Esteban Martinez of the 2600 block of South Harding Avenue was pronounced dead at 9:19 p.m. Monday at Mt. Sinai Hospital in Chicago, the Cook County medical examiner's office said.

The shooting may have been gang-related, O'Brien said.

12/23/2008 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now you tell me. I just sent my application to renew my FOID card last week (my current card expires in February). I did renew my DL last week.

A quick note to everyone. I also went to buy my plate sticker when I renewed my DL. I was not allowed to buy my sticker until 2009. I have to have a 2009 check of my emissions as my SUV is older than 2006. Don't waste your time trying to get your sticker without a brand new emisions test.

12/23/2008 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just an FYI.

As of July of 08, the ISP was sending out pre-printed renewal forms. This was 2 months prior to my card expiring.

I received my new card 4 weeks after I sent it in.

12/23/2008 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you have moved be sure to update your address for the FOID. This can be done online at this link.

http://www.isp.state.il.us/services/foidchange.cfm

12/23/2008 08:59:00 AM  
Blogger Creatively Armed said...

Well since there is no concealed carry in Il I don't see why it would be a problem, not like anyone else is supposed to carry. If you're a cop you're on 24/7 just like the military so shouldn't be an issue there either.

12/23/2008 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you get psyched, for any reason, the state pulls your FOID card. When you get cleared, and it can be in a month, six months, whatever, the state does NOT re-issue your FOID. When called on this the State Police pointed out that you are not required to have an FOID card to be the police. You can appeal the revocation, but there is no guarantee that they will renew your card. Even after a couple of years in appeal. What you can do is ride it out five years after the psych and then reapply. So I'm not sure what the department is up to. Beyond violating state law.

12/23/2008 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous 38 & Gone said...

Upon retirement I had to re-register the one gun that I am keeping in the city and I will have to do so every year until I die. This same gun was registered upon purchase 35 years ago and then again 26 years ago when photos were added to the registration.

Can anyone explain why it needs to be re-registered every year now that I am retired? They even use the same registration number and they don't charge for the registration. Just another way to jam coppers and retirees.

12/23/2008 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I received a renewal , mailed it in but haven't received my new foid card I have copy of cancelle check

12/23/2008 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, let me get this straight.

If you a suffering from depression, and you do the right thing, which is to seek help rather than commit suicide, and the state yanks your foid, the city will then punish you by terminating your employement?

What the hell kind of message is that sending? We would rather that you die than do something constructive?

Don't we, as a profession, have enough trouble with suicide as it is? Do they really want people to think, at a time when thinking is difficult, that if you go to a hospital and get help you will lose your job. Good incentive for staying alive.

Who the hell makes these decisions down at 35th Street? Clearly they have no idea what actually goes on in the life of policemen.

12/23/2008 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh come on, 2:09. Part with some of that hard earned dough and send in your $5 and a photo. Honestly, the whining that takes place around here is in-freakin credible! It will make it easier for you to buy another weapon and ammo. Don't worry about registering to be on Comrade Obama's list, they'll have to pry it from your cold dead hand in the end.

12/23/2008 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be aware -- FOID renewal takes about 10 weeks to process due to increased gun sales.

12/23/2008 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just renewed mine .I sent it out 01 NOV 08 didn't receive it until 15 DEC 08

12/23/2008 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this for real? I ask this because, as a cop in TN, I can't imagine any jurisdiction being so assinine. What will be next? Making you lock your sidearm up at the precinct when you go off-shift?

Also, along the same vein about assinine laws, do you guys really have to take everyone you use chemical agent on to the hospital to get checked out?

We recently had a Chicago native, who had moved down here, to decide to start blaring his music to the point that all the windows in the apartment building were rattling. When an officer was called and finally got him to the door, he started yelling that no one could make him turn his music down and he slammed the door in the face of the officer. He was greatly surprised when the door got kicked in and began to struggle when the officer started to lock him up for disorderly conduct. He took a snoot full of pepper spray and got cuffed, in a very non-friendly way.

After being hauled down to the station, his momma shows up and starts with her, "I know the law. Did you take him to the hospital to get checked out." She was told, "No, we don't do that." Then she started up with the,"Well, in Chicago, they have...." She was cut off and it was pointed out that we weren't in Chicago, or even in Illinois, so we didn't go by Illinois law.

I'll just say that if these are laws where you have to police, I really have sympathy for the frustration all of you must feel.

12/23/2008 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Melancton Smith said...

Doesn't it stand to reason that if we can't trust someone with a gun we can't trust them in our police force?

Why force cops to get a FOID (for that matter, why any of us, but I digress)? Why would people ineligible to have a FOID be allowed to police the rest of us?

Not being critical of cops here.

12/23/2008 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They sent me a reminder for renewal. The new one's are good for ten years. It saves a lot of aggravation to have one if you need anything in the area of guns, whether buying or selling. I like the ten year validation, every fucking time my drivers license expires I dont catch it until its been long expired.
1775

12/23/2008 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is only CPD policy... State law does not require us to have valid foids.... still, better to have one, because if you are going to a purchase another gun you are gonna need it...

12/23/2008 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I renewed mine last yr, it had been expired for 4 yrs already. Didnt even realize it, it was simply an oversight on my part. It also takes at least 30 days but probably more to get your new one, so if the dept is going to start disciplining HURRY UP and do it!

12/23/2008 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kinda off topic. Check this out.

"David Spade helps Phoenix police buy rifles"

http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=345090&GT1=28103

Buh-bye. Merry Xmas n stay safe out there!!!

12/23/2008 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't depend upon ISP to get you timely notice - Blagogrinch cut that part of the budget, and much of the work has been outsourced to Indiana.

12/23/2008 12:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Il. State Law: active peace officers EXEMPT from needing FOID Card.

12/23/2008 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again, where's the fence-sitters in the FOP Legal Dept. on this? How hard is it to see what the rest of the FOP Lodges and Members Statewide are told regarding this. Donohue, [the Detective that never Detected] out to lunch with City Hall again?
Probably another shell game by Daley to say we can no longer carry weapons off-duty, and need the cards to transport handgun to and from work to carry only on-duty. Don't bet the Demon-C-RATS aren't plotting something evil [as always] on this also. Not paranoia, just experience. Donohue, get out in front on this one, now. Liberalism is Satanism.

12/23/2008 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Under state law you do not need an FOID card to carry while you work. However that means that you have to leave your gun at work when you go home. That is the way it is written.

12/23/2008 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can download a FOID re/Application at the Illinois State Police's official website.....

http://www.isp.state.il.us/

12/23/2008 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This has always worked since FOID came about. Paper clip a piece of paper to the application saying, "Police Officer: Card needed for Employment" or in my case, "Retired Police Officer, Card needed for Concealed Carry Permit". Otherwise, the application goes in the backlog stack.

Retired 11 years........

12/23/2008 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This is bull shit anyone who knows the law will tell you, on duty you are not required to carry FOID as sworn law officer because you are exempt from the provisions. As a law enforcement official you are NEVER off duty so it would not apply, let dept take action then sue"

You're 100 percent correct!

It's not a requirement because of our exemption. All you really need it for is to buy a new gun or ammo, that's it.

This is just another bullshit scare tactic from the goofs at 35th and Michigan who are trying to justify their existence so they don't get launched by J-Fed back to being a field Lt in the duece or Filmore.

12/23/2008 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

still waiting for mine told my capt canceled check will have to do until it comes

12/23/2008 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And Remember to join the NRA and buy a gun a month.

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How about starting the Gun of the Month Club?

12/23/2008 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know that Jag-Off Jody wanted this a another tool to fuck coppers. Jody , go back to the Feds.

12/23/2008 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So if im not cop off duty,how can I carry a gun??Why would I need a FOID card.

12/23/2008 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a copy of the US Constitution thats the only "gun permit" American citizens should need

FOID is unconstitutional

12/23/2008 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is bull shit anyone who knows the law will tell you, on duty you are not required to carry FOID as sworn law officer because you are exempt from the provisions. As a law enforcement official you are NEVER off duty so it would not apply, let dept take action then sue

12/23/2008 02:09:00 AM

Please don’t get me wrong, but.... I know the law, and yes, you are 110% right! However, do you want to be the 1st cop that they make an example out of? Do you really want to go through all of the bullshit, hassle, grief and aggravation of dealing with the lawyers, IAD, a Supt who is out to fuck us, not collecting a check for 30 days, possible arrest for UUW (Off duty??? Why not, a Supt who is out to fuck us!) ? How much are you willing to toss in the hat for the Cop that is willing?

Or would it be easier to just get a picture, fill out a few boxes, and send the form off to ISP?

Just one more pimpy bullshit thing they are going to throw our way. Now where did I put my ticket book? Hhmmp, I seem to have miss-placed another (revenue generating) Police tool. Damn, I hate when that happens…..

12/23/2008 02:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So if you don't carry off-duty and leave the gun in your locker in the station you don't need this card, right?

12/23/2008 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This is bull shit anyone who knows the law will tell you, on duty you are not required to carry FOID as sworn law officer because you are exempt from the provisions. As a law enforcement official you are NEVER off duty so it would not apply, let dept take action then sue

12/23/2008 02:09:00 AM


The Department can and most likely will change the General Orders to require an FOID card. Why? Because they can. They can always be more restrictive than state law on some things. Deadly force for one. I don't see what the problem with getting an FOID card is for people. You need one to buy ammunition in Illinois.

12/23/2008 02:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
is the cpd going to change state law before they enact this new rule. it has never been a requirement for a peace officer to have a foid card.

12/23/2008 12:33:00 AM

Check your facts whipper-snapper... we wer required to have FOID when I came on the job in 1980!

12/23/2008 03:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Send in the application with a copy of your department i.d. card. The ISP have been really good about sending it within a couple of weeks.

12/23/2008 03:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Da Mayor hates guns (except for the forty that protect him) and will make gun ownership difficult to impossible for all non-police. This is just one additional way to screw with us. The way they keep beating down morale the homicide rate will 750 next year and if he has any idea of screwing with our pensions it will be 1000 real fast!

Let J-Pud get out of the car and start doing street stops of the gang bangers. Oh so sorry we don’t do that kind of work any more because Da ministers want their take of the drug trade! Oh I forgot J-Pud says drug dealers and gangs bangers are not the same!

Keep your families away from the Taste next summer it could be a war zone!!!!!

12/23/2008 03:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats an FOID card?
love Bt. 300

12/23/2008 04:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it was mentioned at roll call, hell i mentioned it a couple of months back. do what you want; but i'll save my time for taking days when i want, not when the city forces me to.

12/23/2008 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can fill out the form right on their website in Adobe, print it, and mail it.

12/23/2008 04:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is the cpd going to change state law before they enact this new rule. it has never been a requirement for a peace officer to have a foid card.

12/23/2008 12:33:00 AM

Follow department policy first state law second.

12/23/2008 04:36:00 PM  
Blogger larry said...

Being a stranger in a strange land LOL what is a FOID card?

MERRY CHRISTMAS OR HAPPY HANUKKAH TO EVERYONE OUT THERE AND A SAFE NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE AND THEIR FAMILIES.

12/23/2008 04:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How you guys doing on ammo buys? I've got 12,500 rounds as of today. "Shooting" to have 15,000 by 20 January.

12/23/2008 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fellow Officers,

Send any picture with your FOID renewal form because they use the picture on file from your drivers license. Happy Holidays!

12/23/2008 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least the FOIDs are 10 year cards now, at least thats supposed to be the deal. Less work related hassle to contend with.

12/23/2008 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just renewed my FOID card and after not receiving same for almost a month I called the ISP Springfield #. It does ring and ring but when answered you will find out that due to budget cuts etc, and no hiring, the average time for processing is about 40 days from the date it is received. I mailed my form in on 1 Nov and got my new card on 15 Dec 08.

12/23/2008 06:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pay the $10 and get it over with for ten years.

12/23/2008 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is all about the money! The State needs the $10 fee to pay for Blagogoof defense!

Just another way to boost morale! NOT!

More of a way to fuck a hard working P.O. over!

Thanks Blago, J-Idiot and Mighty Midget!

Now go get you shine box!

12/23/2008 07:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI the ISP does send out renewal FOID forms approximately two months prior to the cards expiration date. It is a one paper folded piece of paper that one might mistake for junk mail.

12/23/2008 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE KNUCKLEHEADS AT 35/MICH WOULD DO WONDERS IF WHEN OR BEFORE THEY SPEW THEIR CRAP THAT MAYBE THEY CAN EXPLAIN THEIR RATIONALE, BUT FUCK NO!

They come up with what appears to us as crap and hide behind their darling little oak leafs, stars and bars saying nothing to us because they don't have to.

Can someone at 35th lurking on this blog give the reason for this sudden enforcement!

Don't these goofs know that if this is intended to "push" at the coppers there is law that states that for every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction?

C'mon, HQ, J-Fed and the rest of you golden spoon fed children, show us what you are going to do to improve morale? Name two things!

And BTW, who is checking the white shirts FOID cards, DL's, work hours, etc.?

More bullshit from the consummate bullshitters who run this department.

12/23/2008 08:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder is J Flop and the other Exempt PPOS have FOID cards?

12/23/2008 08:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(430 ILCS 65/2) (from Ch. 38, par. 83‑2)
Sec. 2. Firearm Owner's Identification Card required; exceptions.
(c) The provisions of this Section regarding the acquisition and possession of firearms, firearm ammunition, stun guns, and tasers do not apply to law enforcement officials of this or any other jurisdiction, while engaged in the operation of their official duties.
(Source: P.A. 94‑6, eff. 1‑1‑06.)

12/23/2008 08:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this for real? I ask this because, as a cop in TN, I can't imagine any jurisdiction being so assinine. What will be next? Making you lock your sidearm up at the precinct when you go off

It is not required that they go, but most take em, we are required if we taser them, but not mace.. I personally like to give them water a bottle of water because that is not enough to flush it out, only aggravate it...

12/23/2008 09:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If you get psyched, for any reason, the state pulls your FOID card. When you get cleared, and it can be in a month, six months, whatever, the state does NOT re-issue your FOID. When called on this the State Police pointed out that you are not required to have an FOID card to be the police. You can appeal the revocation, but there is no guarantee that they will renew your card. Even after a couple of years in appeal. What you can do is ride it out five years after the psych and then reapply. So I'm not sure what the department is up to. Beyond violating state law."
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Typical bullshit talking cop. Your FOID is ONLY pulled if you enter a mental health facility for treatment. Not for alcohol rehab, AA, or just a plain psyche while seeing a doctor. You are also separately notified of this upon admission and you must sign a form noting that you have been advised your FOID will be rescinded pending appeal. I know cause it happened to me. If you are a copper it doesn't take much to get your FOID back, just a letter from your shrink stating you are not a harm to yourself or others. Stop spreading bullshit.

12/23/2008 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

[...]I'll just say that if these are laws where you have to police, I really have sympathy for the frustration all of you must feel.

12/23/2008 10:52:00 AM

Brother, that ain't the half of it.
This fucked up liberal city, ties our hands then scratch their heads when crime increases.

Hopefully your elected officials don't pay off laws suits like winning lottery tickets. Also, I hope your juries don't put up with the B.S. that people like, "mama" claim.

12/23/2008 09:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What ever happened with the big FOP qualification caper? Did the boys have to shot. If they don't have to are they bared from carrying?

12/23/2008 10:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I wonder is J Flop and the other Exempt PPOS have FOID cards?

12/23/2008 08:48:00 PM

And properly titled car and license plates!

12/23/2008 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh no how many of the d-3 valet details do not have one?

12/23/2008 10:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOID does NOT send out reminders. and you do NOT need to send in a photo--they use your D/L photo from the computer

12/23/2008 08:14:00 AM

Check again, you still have to dend the pictures even though they use your digital DL photo

12/23/2008 10:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't waste your time trying to get your sticker without a brand new emisions test.
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I have a 2005 Trailblazer. I went online to order my new plate sticker and had no problem.

12/23/2008 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now where did I put my ticket book?
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What's a ticket book?

12/23/2008 11:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After being hauled down to the station, his momma shows up and starts with her, "I know the law. Did you take him to the hospital to get checked out." She was told, "No, we don't do that." Then she started up with the,"Well, in Chicago, they have...." She was cut off and it was pointed out that we weren't in Chicago, or even in Illinois, so we didn't go by Illinois law


No we don't have to get them checked out thats another ghetto rat baby breeder that thinks they know the law .

12/23/2008 11:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

larry said...
Being a stranger in a strange land LOL what is a FOID card?

MERRY CHRISTMAS OR HAPPY HANUKKAH TO EVERYONE OUT THERE AND A SAFE NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE AND THEIR FAMILIES.

12/23/2008 04:40:00 PM

F-Firearm
O-owners
I-D -Identfication

12/23/2008 11:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(430 ILCS 65/2)
Firearm Owner's Identification Card required; exceptions.
(c) The provisions of this Section ....blah blah blah... while engaged in the operation of their official duties.

Again... WHILE ENGAGED IN THE OPERATION OF THEIR OFFICIAL DUTIES!!

When you are off, you ARE NOT engaged in official duties. Skip the 24/7 stuff. Going to court counts, but driniking at Duggans doesnt. If you OWN a gun, you need one. Last I checked, we all own (at least) one. Stop whining and learn the law. The law does apply to peace officers and the law applies to CPD too!

Happy Xmas

12/23/2008 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you get psyched, for any reason, the state pulls your FOID card. When you get cleared, and it can be in a month, six months, whatever, the state does NOT re-issue your FOID. When called on this the State Police pointed out that you are not required to have an FOID card to be the police. You can appeal the revocation, but there is no guarantee that they will renew your card.
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You're not completely right. If you are hospitalized in a psych ward you can lose it..Not just for being "psyched" by the department...

12/23/2008 11:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in the mid 1980's the Department tried to require FOID cards.

It was pointed out that the state law then, as now, does not require us to have one.

It was pointed out under the "First Issue" clause of the contract, the city was required to pay for it.

That was the end of it.

12/23/2008 11:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm so fuckin tired of hearing about what the department is trying to do to us.

12/23/2008 11:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this for real? I ask this because, as a cop in TN, I can't imagine any jurisdiction being so assinine. What will be next? Making you lock your sidearm up at the precinct when you go off-shift?
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Yeah, it's for real, but it's not the law. It's more dumb, restrictive rules put on us because of our Department's knee-jerk overreaction to lawsuits.

12/23/2008 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical bullshit talking cop. Your FOID is ONLY pulled if you enter a mental health facility for treatment. Not for alcohol rehab, AA, or just a plain psyche while seeing a doctor. You are also separately notified of this upon admission and you must sign a form noting that you have been advised your FOID will be rescinded pending appeal. I know cause it happened to me. If you are a copper it doesn't take much to get your FOID back, just a letter from your shrink stating you are not a harm to yourself or others. Stop spreading bullshit.

12/23/2008 09:39:00 PM
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The only bullshit talking cop here is YOU. This exact situation happened to a guy who used to work for me and he is STILL waiting for the State to release his card, DESPITE providing that letter from the shrink.

Just because something went one way for you, doesn't mean it goes that way for everyone. IF you're really the police, you should know that better than anyone and not be slinging insults at your fellow p.o.

12/24/2008 12:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Is this for real? I ask this because, as a cop in TN, I can't imagine any jurisdiction being so assinine. What will be next? Making you lock your sidearm up at the precinct when you go off

It is not required that they go, but most take em, we are required if we taser them, but not mace.. I personally like to give them water a bottle of water because that is not enough to flush it out, only aggravate it...

12/23/2008 09:14:00 PM
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Thanks for the answer. My curiosity had been growing since I heard that women say that.

12/24/2008 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
[...]I'll just say that if these are laws where you have to police, I really have sympathy for the frustration all of you must feel.

12/23/2008 10:52:00 AM

Brother, that ain't the half of it.
This fucked up liberal city, ties our hands then scratch their heads when crime increases.

Hopefully your elected officials don't pay off laws suits like winning lottery tickets. Also, I hope your juries don't put up with the B.S. that people like, "mama" claim.

12/23/2008 09:56:00 PM
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Unfortunately, I police in Memphis, TN. My city/county seem to be like two sides of the same coin with yours.

We both have Democrats running things. We both have Mayors who think that they are God's gift to us. In both cities, we have constant scandals involving friends and associates of our elected officials. We both have administrations that would rather throw a little money at the latest thug making a false accusation against an officer rather than take 'em into court. Hell, even our departments are almost twins concerning nitwits in charge that are universally hated by the rank and file. We also have our hands tied like you. We do seem to have a few things better, in that we don't have any "merit" promotions and we seem, from my reading, to have better equipment.

12/24/2008 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous 29 years and a day said...

Anonymous said...
is the cpd going to change state law before they enact this new rule. it has never been a requirement for a peace officer to have a foid card.

12/23/2008 12:33:00 AM


there are many things for which you can be gigged that are more restrictive than state law

For example its not against state law to show up late for roll call or not to show up at all

But you can suffer administrative penalties for doing either

12/24/2008 12:38:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

I tried sending the state this picture for my FOID.

They used my driver's license one instead.

Darn.

12/24/2008 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISP's website was down for awhile today. I did find another venue to get the application.

Hit the link. Fill in the blanks. Print. It's as easy as wearing pants.

http://www.shoregalleries.com/downloads/forms/foidcardapp.pdf

12/24/2008 01:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
i'm so fuckin tired of hearing about what the department is trying to do to us.

12/23/2008 11:37:00 PM

Stop listening and reading see all better now?

12/24/2008 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this for real? I ask this because, as a cop in TN, I can't imagine any jurisdiction being so assinine. What will be next? Making you lock your sidearm up at the precinct when you go off-shift?

Also, along the same vein about assinine laws, do you guys really have to take everyone you use chemical agent on to the hospital to get checked out?

Yes this is true or have paramedic check them on scene. We have stupid laws, stupid policies, stupid rules and stupid BOSSES/LEADERS.

12/24/2008 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

better apply now to renew your FOID. It took the state 7 weeks to send me a renewal card. WTF GOV RAMROD!

12/24/2008 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what order would you be in violation of if you did not have an FOID? As far as I know there is no rule requiring one.

12/24/2008 01:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Upon retirement I had to re-register the one gun that I am keeping in the city and I will have to do so every year until I die.
. . . . . . .

SOLUTION: Get the hell OUT of the city.
I'm counting the years and minutes until I get out of this shit here in Norwood Park.

12/25/2008 10:27:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

"....it's as easy as wearing pants...."

Is it as easy as getting out of them?

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

12/25/2008 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the TN copper,i know you have better equipment than Shitago because your equipment supplier is not a Daley (our sitting mayor,and i do mean sitting Mayor,because that's all he do is sit on his 270 lbs ass) connected insider who buys the most outdated equipment he can find then double/triple the price back to the city in a no-bid contract ok'd by the Mayor.

12/28/2008 09:34:00 PM  

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