GPS Disaster
The whole system is in failure.
We're getting reports of paper surveys being filled out and faxed to Patrol so they can produce some dummied up report for the mayor to review. And the comments are alive with the tales of wasted money and resources:
We're getting reports of paper surveys being filled out and faxed to Patrol so they can produce some dummied up report for the mayor to review. And the comments are alive with the tales of wasted money and resources:
- okay, here's the deal about pdt's and gps, from my impeccable sources...when gps was installed, it was incompatible with the vehicle electronics, causing the vehicle engine light to stay on, among other problems);
as of late, apparently, shortshanks wanted a "gps report" (i.e., tell me how it's working!); oemc folks discovered that some gps units don't work, so....some pdt's were fixed....folks were saying that the pdt mounts have to be replaced ($700 per mount?, not sure about that, but it's Chicago, no?); anyway, the pdt's are supposed to be divided into thirds, yellow, blue, and red dot marked (with corresponding metal mounts);
but the guy that paints the mounts works in fleet, while the guy that paints the dot on the pdt works in (who knows?, and do they talk to each other, no), so...when cars get downed for service, depending on how many of what dot color they are, there may or may not be enough pdt's available for the replacement cars (if any) that come back (i.e., blue dot car goes down, you get a red, red goes down you get back a yellow (on the mount), then hunt for a matching pdt in the station.
hey, look at the bright side, it's like the Chicago version of an Easter egg hunt....
The Chicago way.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
100 Comments:
Acknowledege the truth, technology will never replace a well trained officer.
Priceless,
Spending millions of dollars on technology to discover it doesn't work and discovering you are short 2,000+ officers and have no money to hire them.
HOW MUCH????????????????????????
What a fucking joke that the CPD has turned into in the last seven years.
I HOPE EVERY WHITE SHIRT DOCTORING UP PAPER WORK TO COVER J-FED MISTAKES HAS A GOOD LAWYER!
REMEMBER ALSO ALOT OF FEDRAL MONEY IS USED 4 VARIOUS EQUIPMENT.
U KNOW J-FED NOT GOING TO TAKE THE BLAME AT CITY HALL.
"ILL HAVE TO DEFER TO MY DEPUTY SUPERBLAH BLAH BLAH HE IS IN CHARGE"
"ILL LET MY CHIEF OF BLAH BLAH TELL YOU"!
"DEPUTY SO AND SO IS HANDLING THAT ISSUE SHE CAN TELL U MORE THAN I"
I HOPE U PRETEND COLLEGE GRADUATES WITH MAPLE LEAVES KNOW J-FED WILL NOT B HERE 4 EVER. SO EITHER DO LIKE CLINE AND STARKS AND HAVE A BACK UP PLAN OTHER THEN LEADING THIS DEPARTMENT!
WHEN THE NEW SUPES COME MASSIVE DUMPS R IN STORE!
heard if the pdt is off the gps is off.
Whats a PDT?? I haven't seen a decent one of those for a LONG time! Should have spent the GPS and camera money on good PDTs/mounts for ALL vehicles first. Then focus on cameras and GPS if they have such a hard-on for it!
It seems the City of Chicago is GREAT at purchasing technology but terrible at making it work. By the time everything is up and good to go, it will be outdated and old.
SCC STATED:
"The whole system is in failure.
... And the comments are alive with the tales of wasted money and resources:"...
No shit! I thought THAT was the Chicago way. Look at the old PDT’s, Swipe Machines, the BACK DOOR to your station, the copy machine, and on, and on, and on…………. This fuckin’ CITY is alive with wasted money and resources! I’m just glad my City check isn’t bouncing!
We need to shitcan every vehicle, radio, and pdt in the inventory and start over from scratch. All of our shit is outdated junk, worthy only of the recycling bin. I forgot to mention that we need all new software because that also is a hodgepodge of outdated garbage.
But will we...of course not. What we will do is waste all of the department's time and resources on CAPS, a failed (and also outdated) "strategy." The "residents" of this city believe we are their fucking lackeys because CAPS and all the propaganda that goes with it has shown them that we exist only to babysit them and hold their hands throughout their pathetic lives.
19-Pointless.
Who gives a flyin' fuck? Not I.
Seiser’s Lawyer Joke Of The Day:
Q; She had three children, right?
A: Yes
Q: How many were boys?
A: None.
Q: Were there any girls?
It's all a farce! Imagine if these monies (GPS, In car cameras, etc) that were basically knee jerk reactions to overblown media stories, were used for our raises/contracts/pension fund.
It's enough to make you KMA out of the academy.
WHERE ARE ALL THE POOL CARS? We had to down 2 cars from the watch yesterday and they had no pools to replace them. Are they saving them for the olympics? Where are the cars? We only have 9500 officers in patrol and not enuff cars. Did you see the video from 003 during the story about the 14 year old? The cars had holes in them, missing trim and generally looked like shit. And they are, every where in every district.
In my district the mounts are for PDT's from a company that does not exist any more. new PDT's means new mounts, of course. The PDT's we try to use have no batteries and haven't for years, all throw away, NiCads and they died years ago. So all are hard wired only, cannot carry the PDT around.
And all our PDT's use Windows 98, obsolete (this is 2009!) and no longer supported by Microsoft and hasn't been for years. Obsolete crap is what we get. When we get new stuff we get new overpriced crap. The GPS system is a waste of money. Totally. The in-car video system is also crap, I cannot upload videos 5 days out of 6 at least. Camera freezes up etc. W/C says it is my fault for not calling help desk and getting problem number each and every fucking time. On my own time of course. I usually waste 45 minutes a day trying to upload fucking videos. This is a BRAND NEW SYSTEM!!!!!
Of course, my fault, I should have known. Like station security is the Lt's and Sgt's fault in 003. They always need someone to hang, to voer their mistakes on.
At least Cline etc. knew how fucked up the system was and were right there with us in the mess.
This beady eyed snake motherfucker weis doesn't know shit. He is FBI, he thinks departments should be run, well, like police departments. He never knew what a cluster fuck Chicago was.
I'll bet he knows now.
This is getting like the old USSR, totally corrupt and nothing works and the whole thing is a mess. The workers say "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work."
What a joke.
Anonymous said...
SCC STATED:
"The whole system is in failure.
... And the comments are alive with the tales of wasted money and resources:"...
No shit! I thought THAT was the Chicago way. Look at the old PDT’s, Swipe Machines, the BACK DOOR to your station, the copy machine, and on, and on, and on…………. This fuckin’ CITY is alive with wasted money and resources! I’m just glad my City check isn’t bouncing!
2/01/2009 02:04:00 AM
Around 1993 the City bought a ton of Sun Servers at around $35,000 a pop. that say unused in districts and areas for two years at least before they were finally hooked up to be used as PRINT SERVERS!!! Anyone knows computers knows what a waste that is. A year later they were removed and sat in a room somewhere before being scrapped. More waste.
Anyone check out Sayers Computer Systems, where the City got much of their computer crap? Supposedly a minority company "owned" by Gayle Sayers. Another front organization thrown together to qualify for minority set asides.
I like to blame the police for most everything but the problem here falls entirely on OEC. They have tried to blame this disastor on the police but even the dumb little midget can see through their b.s. The faliure has to do with oec inability to upload the correct programs on the pdts and to purchase compatable gps that will conform with our cars and equipment. Contracts with this program are being investigated becasue it is so fucked.
Remeber the days when oec was run by the police? Horrible dispatchers, pathetic radio system, emergecny management that is the joke of the nation (see 2006 Homeland Security Report), and PDT's that are so slow (or down for repair) that it would be faster to get a response back if I drove downtown.
OEC is just another burracracy created by Daley that resulted in 100's or new cronie jobs. Close that shithole down and put it back under a police commander.
I for one think that the GPS should have been installed into the radios. What the installers are doing is just short willful negligence, knowing that there are major flaws that compromise our safety in an already piece of shit squad car.
As for the cameras, I sometimes work a beat car and find it (when it works) to be helpful and somewhat amusing during traffic stops.
OEMC, OEMC,Hmmmmm wasn't Ron huberman in charge of Operations there @ one time???
Sad news today: Early this morning in Los Angeles, California, Chuck Norris took a shit...
And there were chunks of SEISER IN IT!!!
2009 A YEAR OF RESULTS
IS 1760 IS KEPING AN EYE ON HIS CARS??? MAYBE NOT IF THE G.P.S. IS NOT WORKING.. RALPH CAN TAKE THE CAR HOME AGAIN.. ANYBODY CHECK ON RALPHS SIDEJOB??? IS HE HELPING ROD?? HOW COME 1760 DOES'NT HAVE G.P.S. ON HIS VEHICLE???? EVER SEEN A COMMANDER YELL, SWEAR AND LOOSE HIS COOL??? YOU SHOULD VISIT THE 017 DISTRICT. HE IS OUT OF CONTROL... YOU SHOULD SEE THIS ACT!!
let us not forget, that the Police Fleet is no longer the Police Fleet and is a part of Fleet, they have no one in charge who cares about the police. The police fleet should back to the department, less erros will occur, pool cars will again be avaailable. As long as J-Fed is now truning to experienced people to manage the department, he should bring back the fleet and someone with the ability to provide the best fleet possible with the Dollars available.
Speaking of Federal money.... Remember how much $ Daley received from the Feds for the TARA officer program. For every officer that went through TARA the city recieved money to put an off-duty officer on the street. Money was given but the off-duty TARA program stopped two years ago.
Did they give that money back to the FEDS?
Bring back Hubermann to fix this mess. He is the savior of all failed projects.
Dont forget the scab contractors who originally installed these units. The best part is the greedy electricians who were hired part time on the side to do some of the installs
We'll do anything to get the older pdts working in 377 and 477. Oh we are short on computers too. Many many are in the shop. We dont mind the GPS.
over 1/2 the marked cars in 001 are pool cars--thus no camera, no pdt, no cage, and no gps
OT
Anonymous said...
SPEAKING OF SECURITY!
How about the illegal alien station cleaners? Working for a sub-contractor to clean our stations. PUT THEM IN A UNIFORM WITH AN I.D..
If you can't speak english, chances are you are illegal!!!
2/01/2009 02:21:00 AM
Next time, please, think before you say something stupid.
I noticed that the majority of the brass are driving brand new vehicles that have all the bells and whistles. How can you be in command driving a new vehicle knowing that your workers have crap to work with. I could never understand when they deliver new vehilces to the district that the supervisors all seem to have dibs on them.
the gps electrical system drains that fucking car batter, again millions spent on unnecessary shit that nobody was really prepared to initiate. just cause a asshole wanted it. well he's got what he wanted and a lot more...;
Even if the PDT is off they can still track your whereabouts. Obviously I'm sure most of you have noticed that you can't log on to the PDT unless you enter a vehicle number and as long as that PDT is logged on they know where you're at even with the PDT off. When the GPS was activated on the cars we tried turning the PDT off and we changed our location from where we last had it on and the dispatcher informed us that she could still track us. I guess if you "accidentally" entered the wrong car number they might look at a car that's been sitting in the lot for the last 8 hours.
I spoke with an R-Man about the GPS and he had some real interesting thoughts about the system. The R-Man said the GPS systems were set up to drain the battery in the vehicle down to a level that the vehicle cannot be started but this will only occur if the vehicle is not driven for two days. He then showed me a truck full of new batteries that he had to install because of this problem. If we could only GPS some of the exempts this department would be running a lot smoother.
F*CK THE GPS !!!!
INSTALL SOME LED LIGHTS INTO SOME OF THESE UNMARKED VEHICLES SO WE DON'T GET KILLED TRYING TO MAKE A STOP. THAT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT MY LOCATION ... LIKE YOU F*CKS SITTING BEHIND THE COMPUTER TRACKING VEHICLES ARE COMING TO THE RESCUE....
How is it possible that our city leaders try so hard to waste money.
If this were an actual busisness it would be bankrupt in less than
6 months. Why do we continue to vote for the idiots we do. Here is a link to another story about the olympics in China and the black hole vaccuum of money the Olympics are. The story states "Maintenance of the structure alone costs about $8.8 million annually, making it difficult to turn a profit, Xinhua said." Yeah Daley.....keep tryin so hard to bring this crap to Shitcago. The link to the full story ....... http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/news?slug=ap-birdsnestfuture&prov=ap&type=lgns
If the link does not work google
"Beijing’s Bird’s Nest to anchor shopping complex."
When Mayor D finds out who was put in charge to over see the installation of GPS he's going to have a shit attack. Mayor.... Who the f@ck is in ccharge!!!!!
The Boss, AH? Oh yeah:
"Dumb n Dumber"
The Best we got, Boss.
Together they are as tall as the midget from fantasy island, Look Boss! De PLane De plane
QUESTION! MAYOR, IF YOU HAD A FOOT PROBLEM, WHO WOULD SEE???
A) PODIATRIST
B) FRIEND
C) NEIGHBOR
CORRECT ANSWER IS A) PODIATRIST
KNOW IF YOU HAD TO INSTALL TACKING DEVICE INTO A POLICE SQUAD CAR, THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY YOUR FLEET MANAGEMENT TECHNICIANS, WHO WOULD YOU HAVE DOING THE INSTALLATION?
None of them worked. They also drew down the batteries. They purchased the GPS domes without compatible software.
....and,the average squad car is worth about $1500 on the scrap market.
Be safe, they're deathtraps.
The amazing thing is, there are companies right here in Chicago that can remedy some of these problems, but they don't give kickbacks, buy huge amounts of golf tickets or dump money into campain funds. So none of these companies are ever asked for their imput.
In addition, there are some really great retired guys who own companies who can really make a diffenence, but again, they have no clout, so if they do something for the city, they have to go thru a "approved" vendor and the taxpayers wind up ppaying 200% over retail!
After all, the 3 stooges that run the dept will never ask anyone who is knowlegable on how to make things better.
i like how new pdt mounts are put on pool cars with 130,000 + miles on them. brilliant
GPS is not working because even our supervisors at our meeting were asking us, the peons, if we knew anything about how it is working because they were clueless and admitted to being so....oh, and our supervisors (all merit) aren't the brightest in the bunch, basically because they failed or got shitty grades in the promotional exams, but have some connection in shitty hall, so voila, they are bosses on this job... go figure...lot$ of wa$ted money in thi$ dept. To all you civilian non-po-po out there, your tax money at work. Dump Daley, Dump Weis, dump all the alderthieves and let's start over (at least we got rid of blojob). DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT VOTE DEMOCRATIC OR THIS CITY WILL SOON BE DETROIT #2.
Signed,
Very happy that I'm in the KMA club and made my rank by test score.
The engine light has been on in my car for about two weeks. They sent it to the "MM" at least four times. Good for a couple of hour then the light goes back on. Now the airbag/seatbelt light is on. Does that mean the airbags will not deploy?...not like they ever do...Well I guess I'll try not to have any head on collisions.
On a side not...careful with the in car camera...IT TURNS ON BY ITSELF IF YOU HIT ANY DEEP POTHOLES.
Stay safe Brothers
I have a car with 149,000 miles on it the ball joints are fucked up my wig wags work when they want the aircondition system works on one setting, its been in and out of the area countless calls to the r-man several to-froms have been written to the wc on how unsafe this vehicle is, but they take the car in and put a gps on it. J-FED I REALLY HOPE YOU READ THIS BLOG THE ONLY IN PROGRESS CALL I LL EVER RACE TOO IS IF AN OFFICER NEEDS ASSISTANCE OUTSIDE OF THAT YOU THE MANAGEMENT AND EVERYONE ELSE K.M.A
Yes, and it kept killing the batteries especially in Exempts cars, so I guess they got different systems. Our Commander in 022's car died 6 different times. He froze each and every time!
They had money to put a GPS system in my squad that is worth about 200.00 on the market, heat works as long as you driving, smells like crap, has almost 100,000 miles on it and squeaks as you drive. I would have preferred a new car or at least a descent one. Oh yeah, my PDT mount does not work, but who cares, we don't have enough working PDT's for everyone on 3rd watch!
was at A/3 refuleing and noticed on the log no veh w/ less than 40,000/mi most over 50,000.
don't worry about GPS or swipeing cause none of that stuff works.
HOW ABOUT :
- MORE OFFICERS
- CCSAO REFORM
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AW, FORGET IT !
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It seems the City of Chicago is GREAT at purchasing technology but terrible at making it work. By the time everything is up and good to go, it will be outdated and old.
2/01/2009 01:15:00 AM
very true
I believe it's called Miss-Appropriation of Government Funds, and is a Federal Offense.
As long as the Daley Pool of Sharks has been fed, that's all that matters to him. Watch yourselves out there Troops, another Month without a Contract, and Spring is coming fast. Don't take un-necessary risks for people who don't give a flying Fuck about you.
It's OK. I got yelled at by the W/C for not moving my car for the last 3 days. It was used on every watch and I filled it up with gas twice. Gotta love the safety this stuff provides!!!!
A fax was sent out asking all PO's to bring in 2 tin cans and 1000 yards of string. We will make phones and be dispatched by the desk. If you live in, 004, 008, or 016, bring in 2000 yards of string.
Tell me more about this "PDT" you speak of.
The PDT in my car has a top that does not stay open very well. I took off after a car while trying to run the plate and I MOUSETRAPPED my fucking fingers (trigger finger)
So,instead of hitting the medical like I should have I went into the station to put cold water on the the thing. As I pulled into the station I slipped on the ice in the parking lot that is still there from lack of salt and plowing...right on my tailbone.
Now ailing from two things I went to go down in the station but got a job and tried to take a personal and the dispatcher said you are all I have. I tried to make a quick entry into the station to try and get cold water on my hand and MY FUCKING SWIPE CARD did not work in the swipe thingy!!!
I was locked out of the fucking station (later found they were checking entry codes for terrorists or whatever the office reasons were)....
Hobbled back to my car and reluctantly went to the 1A call in my Tahoe. I get there and then the burglary victim is there waiving at me and I CAN'T GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE DAMN VEHICLE as the locking system wouldn't work!!
I think the victim thought I was avoiding getting out or that I was afraid or something or blowing him off!!!!??
After coding the job when I figured out how to get out (without crawling through the window) I tried to go to lunch but we were in a rap due to cars being DOWN on these bullshit MISSIONS that I know are just excuses for the Districts to get these numbers to prove to WHOEVER that we are ACTIVELY doing our JOB!
As I came intot he station for check off I got dinged for wearing a jacket over my sweater (since it was below freezing I improvised)....
As I checked off the Sergeant asked me " How was your day and I said, " Same as every other one just ten more years of this to go"!
Stay SAFE!
Is there a way to cut off that annoying as FUCKing info reader whenever you run a plate on the pdt??? NCIC.Clear
The conversation is classic Huberman in that he never stops thinking about the "customers" and ways to help his employees "see their customers through new eyes," said former Deputy Police Supt. Barbara McDonald.
"He's a very motivated and motivating person," said McDonald, who hired Huberman as her chief of staff and ended up working for him at the Office of Emergency Management and Communications, City Hall and the CTA.
"People like to work for him because he often comes up with ideas people haven't thought of. That's kind of unusual for someone at the level he's at," she said.
Assistant Deputy Police Supt. Howard Lodding, another former underling, said, "He doesn't accept 'no' for an answer. People said we couldn't get cellular technology to work with the radio frequency in our mobile computer-aided dispatch system. He said, 'I know it can be done,' and we got it done. Now, we have CLEAR in our police cars."
LOCATED IN THE CHICAGO SUNTIMES
WE have what in patrol cars???????
Are we talking about the Chicago police?
Just in case they fix it remember don't lie. The penalty for stopping outside the district for a bite to eat, or a little shopping is much less than the penalty for that false report. You know they are trying to get us, don't bend over for it. I got a couple of service bars on my arm, so if i get caught ...fuck it put it with my weekend. To whatever boss or inspector that reads this, the blip on the screen isn't broken, i'm not driving a damn place when the game is on.
I wonder if NY or LA has the same problems? Has any overpaid boss thought to get together with other cities to see what, if any, problems they may have with comparable systems? Probably not.
I always wondered why they did 3 different mounts/computers. Never made much sense to me. Why not make them all compatiable???
Assistant Deputy Police Supt. Howard Lodding, another former underling, said, "He doesn't accept 'no' for an answer. People said we couldn't get cellular technology to work with the radio frequency in our mobile computer-aided dispatch system. He said, 'I know it can be done,' and we got it done. Now, we have CLEAR in our police cars."
LOCATED IN THE CHICAGO SUNTIMES
WE have what in patrol cars???????
Are we talking about the Chicago police
he is another HOKE cronie
remember....DO NOT take out a squad car that you feel is unsafe. if the brakes or power steering is messed up, down that car. or if the front seat is so messed up from some 400 pound officer breaking it so that the seat hurts your back, down that car too. DO NOT risk your safety because the city is too imcompentent to fix cars
Our cars don't work. Our radios don't work. Our computers don't work. Our faxes, printers and phones don't work. Is it any wonder that we don't work?
This is the Honest to God Truth: The GPS was first installed with what they call an auto tap unit which is a mini computer, the company that made them ,put the wrong chip in them that kept the circuit open too long, thus draining the batteries after 8- 10 hrs. they then did what fleet calls a Re-Touch, this is changing the computer program, this then caused problems for the cars computer and they then didn't pass the emmissions test, then another re-touch was done to do another correction, this too failed, Fleet has spent 57,000 dollars on new Motorcraft batteries, in the meantime the company that made the computer program for OEMC is bad too, so for now SGTS and other bosses can't even log into the system. I think another Re-touch has to be done again, this is bogus, and forget about the city putting a new PDT mount into cars with big miles on it,and If you take your squad into any area for G&O it better not have the check engine light on or the brake light on, you may never see that car again, it takes these mechanics forever to fix anything, they will be crying when the garages are privatized, and thier unions won't have a prayer on saving thier jobs.
Answer this. The other day I was gassing up at North and Throop and I saw Commander Martinez from 014 standing out in the cold trying to figure out how the gas pump worked. I actually felt sorry for the guy because he was freezing his ass off. I thought he was alone but when he finished pumping the gas, he went around the car and got into the pasenger seat. The car then pulled away and I saw that it was being driven by some little dolly. Who is she and why does she sit in the car while the Commander pumps gas on a cold and windy night in Chicago?
"Why not make them all compatiable???
2/01/2009 07:20:00 PM"
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"I always wondered why they did 3 different mounts/computers. Never made much sense to me. Why not make them all compatiable???"
2/01/2009 07:20:00 PM
The department has at least three different IP addresses/frequencies the PDT's operate on. That is the reason for the different color dots on the mounts and PDT's. However, the peeps at data systems can change the software in the PDT's to use ANY color mount. The magic is in what IP address/frequency the modem in the car uses.
There is another system, and that is the PDT mounts and PDTs that have NO color dots on them. If memory serves, those PDT's have the modems in them; the modem is not in the mount, so they are not compatable at all with the three different color mounts.
So there are actually 4 different 'systems'. The reasoning for the different colors was/is sound: Limit the amount of traffic at each IP address/frequency so as to keep system response time faster.
The problem is the radio techs not getting/having the correct color mount (which BTW they get from OEMC) in stock when you bring your car in for service to the mount.
If you have PDT's that have been gone 'months' for repairs; chances are very good that they are at OEMC to be fixed and not at the area radio shop.
Once again, the police department is not responsible for the upkeep of our equipment, fleet and/or OEMC is; and this is where one of the problems lies.
How long you been on hold calling
4-DATA? Another example of the department not being responsible for the upkeep; farm it out to UNISYS.
I noticed that the majority of the brass are driving brand new vehicles that have all the bells and whistles. How can you be in command driving a new vehicle knowing that your workers have crap to work with. I could never understand when they deliver new vehilces to the district that the supervisors all seem to have dibs on them.
2/01/2009 09:50:00 AM
cant speak for the exempts, but as a Sgt we take care of our car. we dont leave food, empty bottles, cigarette butts, etc...dont drive it like we are in a demolition derby.
Here is a good one... work third watch, 23rd district. Got a lecture today from Capt Steve Buscemi (aka TL) about officer safety/officer ignorance... APPARENTLY one of our "been there done that know everything you cant tell me shit" tac morons responds to a battery just occurred job... Long story short, MN grabs the purported "offender" and hastily heads in... shit bag cries for the hospital, superior tactical man MN obliges, "offender" is transported by a separate car, brought into the hospital where a nurse FINDS THE KNIFE IN THE OFFENDERS FRONT FUCKING PANTS POCKET!!! THANK GOD THIS GUY HAD NO ILL WILL TOWARDS THE TRANSPORTING COPPERS OR THE NURSING STAFF /DOCTORS AT THE HOSPITAL!!! THIS DOUCHE BAG PUT ALOT OF PEOPLE AT RISK BY NOT DOING WHAT IS KNOWN AS A CUSTODIAL SEARCH!!! All I can say is if you cant do and/or dont know how to do your fucking job, PLEASE know your roll and stop putting coppers at risk! MN likes to act like his shit doesnt stink and then he goes and pulls this class act... Then again, Im certain his propensity towards laziness and unthoroughness must be brought upon by being surrounded by nothing but fucking morons! That tac/gang office is BRUTAL! But that saga is for another time... The numbers (or lack thereof) speak for themselves! But hey, at least you got one angry bumb off the street and no one got hurt! Job well done, 236- whatever... but thanks for the hour long roll call lecture how about going back to police 101 and learning the art of a pat down!
Its easy to blame the OEMC for the PDT's and GPS that doesnt work, no one at the oemc has the power to tell CPD what technology to buy and who to by that crap from and by the way those radio's you use are crap also, so when youre in a foot chase alone in a alley and the dispatcher cant hear you for all the static on your radio, i guess you can blame the OEMC for that too, cause the OEMC tell CPD what crappy technology to buy
I was down at OEC a week or so ago and they showed us how the gps works. It actually showed where the car was to within 1 foot. It did however have some flaws. Some of the cars they tried to pull up never showed even though they had a pdt and it was logged on.
Why does Mike Masters have a take home car? That is a car we could use in the district. Ok, if you say it is in case of a major incident, what exactly is his purpose at a scene? He is not sworn, so he cannot help with the investigation, and since he is not the police, he doesn't know what the fuck he is looking at anyway, we have Exempt galour that are the police at the scene that are required to update the Supt or whoever needs the information, we have Monique Bond to report to the News Media etc. What is HIS purpose? Why again does a Chief of Staff report to our major crime scenes and why exactly does he have a take home car again? Officers need cars everyday in all of the fast Districts. We could use at least one descent car, why not start there!
Oh thats right, he needs it to make arrests (impersonate the police) and he gets to keep it even after he struck a bicyclist!
I almost forgot to add, why does the Superintendent's drivers have take home cars? Why can't they drive to 35th, pick him up and drive home like we do everyday. I drive almost 30 minutes to work each day, I pay for my own gas, car note and insurance and wonder everyday if my car is safe in my District's parking lot! Why do all Lieutenants that work at Headquarters all have take home cars? Do they go to scenes, do they respond to major incidents, why again? We can use those cars also right here in Patrol! I actually do work, I can use a take home car. Both my kids are in college and could use my car and my wife's car, but I keep forgetting, we have to drive to work each day!
shit bag cries for the hospital, superior tactical man MN obliges, "offender" is transported by a separate car, brought into the hospital where a nurse FINDS THE KNIFE IN THE OFFENDERS FRONT FUCKING PANTS POCKET!!!
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Blame the transport car too. Everybody who takes custody of or transports a prisoner should do their own search. EVERYBODY
Anonymous said...
Here is a good one... work third watch, 23rd district. Got a lecture today from Capt Steve Buscemi (aka TL) about officer safety/officer ignorance... APPARENTLY one of our "been there done that know everything you cant tell me shit" tac morons responds to a battery just occurred job... Long story short, MN grabs the purported "offender" and hastily heads in... shit bag cries for the hospital, superior tactical man MN obliges, "offender" is transported by a separate car, brought into the hospital where a nurse FINDS THE KNIFE IN THE OFFENDERS FRONT FUCKING PANTS POCKET!!! THANK GOD THIS GUY HAD NO ILL WILL TOWARDS THE TRANSPORTING COPPERS OR THE NURSING STAFF /DOCTORS AT THE HOSPITAL!!! THIS DOUCHE BAG PUT ALOT OF PEOPLE AT RISK BY NOT DOING WHAT IS KNOWN AS A CUSTODIAL SEARCH!!! All I can say is if you cant do and/or dont know how to do your fucking job, PLEASE know your roll and stop putting coppers at risk! MN likes to act like his shit doesnt stink and then he goes and pulls this class act... Then again, Im certain his propensity towards laziness and unthoroughness must be brought upon by being surrounded by nothing but fucking morons! That tac/gang office is BRUTAL! But that saga is for another time... The numbers (or lack thereof) speak for themselves! But hey, at least you got one angry bumb off the street and no one got hurt! Job well done, 236- whatever... but thanks for the hour long roll call lecture how about going back to police 101 and learning the art of a pat down!
2/01/2009 11:05:00 PM
who cares........really.......who cares
Lets never forget why they went out and spent all this $$. It was so the public would buy into the idea that sence the SOG fiasco, we're being highly supervised. Thus the SOG saga could "never be repeated." It doesn't matter if it doesn't work, because the public will never find out about it (unless they read this blog, of course). That news will never hit the presses and nobody is ever going to ask. So, the cost outlay is not important. The important thing is that Mayor Shortshanks dodges another bullet. And we get the bill.
Lets never forget to add the "paperless police department" promised with CHIS to the $$$ thrown down a hole and never to be seen again.
Alledgedly,the Feds have a lawsuit against the City of Chicago pertaining to the TARA funding.
I say privatize the police. I know I can bring in guys from down south to to this job cheaper. Hay fuck the unions fuck your pension.
What I don't understand is who gives a fuck about the take home cars. You have NO controll over it so don't waste your energy. There are more important issues, like the contract.
"2/01/2009 11:05:00 PM"
Dear two year wonder,
Is your message about officer safety or because you're pissed at a particular officer?
If it was about officer safety-the initals and such could have been left out. Since you decided to practically name the officer-and named the district/captain who has knowledge-there is only one word for you- RAT
Old school police
Acknowledege the truth, technology will never replace a well trained officer.
Priceless,
Spending millions of dollars on technology to discover it doesn't work and discovering you are short 2,000+ officers and have no money to hire them.
2/01/2009 12:14:00 AM
Yep but telling everyone technology is the greatest thing made him Chief of staff, OEMC boss, CTA boss and now the boss of schools.
Watch out he will be back with the police department.
DID you guess who????????
HUBBY BUBBY Does he still use windows 98?
KNOW IF YOU HAD TO INSTALL TACKING DEVICE INTO A POLICE SQUAD CAR, THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY YOUR FLEET MANAGEMENT TECHNICIANS, WHO WOULD YOU HAVE DOING THE INSTALLATION?
A podiatrist???
Anonymous said...
Lets never forget to add the "paperless police department" promised with CHIS to the $$$ thrown down a hole and never to be seen again.
2/02/2009 02:34:00 AM
To say nothing about all the cases. including murder cases, which were fucked up when CHRIS went live without proper testing and training.
Anonymous said...
Acknowledge the truth, technology will never replace a well trained officer.
Priceless,
2/01/2009 12:14:00 AM
Why he fuck did I take that red pill?
If you'd told us the truth, we would've told you to shove that red pill right up your ass.
MN likes to act like his shit doesnt stink and then he goes and pulls this class act...
I was in the academy with and worked on the same team as MN He has NEVER walked around like his shit doesnt stink... He would be willing to give his shirt off his back if you just asked him... I dont know what happened regarding this non-incident but whoever has an axe to grind I suggest you take it up with the man himself, not as an anonymous poster on the fucking blog! Ive heard a few of TL's roll call lectures and they usually have much to do about nothing! The guy constantly makes mountains out of moll hills so I assume this was more of the same. But MN is a good cop and has done more work than 90% of the slugs who fill the CPD roll call rooms... So again, if you have a issue with him, take it up like a man, otherwise STFU!
"I say privatize the police. I know I can bring in guys from down south to to this job cheaper. Hay fuck the unions fuck your pension.
2/02/2009 06:19:00 AM"
How far down south, amigo?
Like, 'we doan neeeed no steeeenkin' bajeeez!' far?
It seems the City of Chicago is GREAT at purchasing technology but terrible at making it work. By the time everything is up and good to go, it will be outdated and old.
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This is a common problem with police departments. it is very rare that anyone in charge at police departments have a clue about technology or how to implement it.
It usually means several passes before it gets done correctly and a lot more money than initially estimated.
Its not just police departments. look at all the computer/IT contracts various city, state, and federal agencies buy into. it is rare that any of them work even remotely as planned initially.
Ha Ha, ya all sound like babies. Grown men and women crying like kids who just got their butt beat. Glad I work for a good suburbing police dept. with good equipment.
Acknowledege the truth, technology will never replace a well trained officer.
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no but it can supplement and make them more effective if handled correctly.
correctly does not mean selecting the contractor with the biggest wad of cash in an unmarked envelope.
Engine light has never been on with any car that i have been in. Take it easy with all your tall tales. You don't have to B.S. us, we all know the department is sticking it too us so lies won't help us any. get your facts straight
Answer this. The other day I was gassing up at North and Throop and I saw Commander Martinez from 014 standing out in the cold trying to figure out how the gas pump worked. I actually felt sorry for the guy because he was freezing his ass off. I thought he was alone but when he finished pumping the gas, he went around the car and got into the pasenger seat. The car then pulled away and I saw that it was being driven by some little dolly. Who is she and why does she sit in the car while the Commander pumps gas on a cold and windy night in Chicago?
2/01/2009 09:40:00 PM
boy! the amount of bullshit and gossip started by people on this dept. is ubbelevable! why didnt you ask Lucio who the broad was?
Does anyone here really expect great things from 023?
Why does Mike Masters have a take home car? That is a car we could use in the district. Ok, if you say it is in case of a major incident, what exactly is his purpose at a scene? He is not sworn, so he cannot help with the investigation, and since he is not the police, he doesn't know what the fuck he is looking at anyway,
I cant agree more. they can cry poor all they want, till they start cutting i dont feel sorry. they need to start with dist. managers lots of money there to be cut, cars are huge expenditure.
cant agree more about bosses at a scenes. i just laugh they all just stand around sniffing each others asses. that is why the last two police deaths were all fucked up
what department in the CPD does the purchasing of all this misfunctiong equiptment?? is this AGAIN connected to certain companies that are referred by special people?? the envelope please, again.
PDT TECHS ARE NO LONGER AT THE OEMC. MANAGEMENT (JA) DECIDED TO MOVE THEM TO THE FIRE DEPT. GARAGE AT 31ST AND SACRAMENTO. THE PDT SYSTEM AND EQUIPMENT ARE STILL AT THE OEMC BUT THE TECHS ARE GONE. MORE ROOM FOR KISS ASS, KICK BACK CONTRACTORS WHO ANSWER ONLY TO JA. HE HAS BEEN SCREWING UP THAT PLACE SINCE TROTTER WAS IN CHARGE. THAT PDT EQUIPMENT HAS NOT BEEN UPGRADED SINCE TO 911 CENTER WAS BUILT. MY REFRIDGERATOR HAS MORE COMPUTER POWER THAN THAT THING. PLENTY OF MONEY FOR GPS. NO MONEY FOR GPS THOUGH.
Squad can you tell me where I am?
More Bullshit!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ha Ha, ya all sound like babies. Grown men and women crying like kids who just got their butt beat. Glad I work for a good suburbing police dept. with good equipment.
2/02/2009 03:36:00 PM
"suburbing"??...guess one doesn't have to know how to spell to be a suburban police officer...LOL...priceless
Now go get your shine box!!
I almost forgot to add, why does the Superintendent's drivers have take home cars? Why can't they drive to 35th, pick him up and drive home like we do everyday. I drive almost 30 minutes to work each day, I pay for my own gas, car note and insurance and wonder everyday if my car is safe in my District's parking lot! Why do all Lieutenants that work at Headquarters all have take home cars? Do they go to scenes, do they respond to major incidents, why again? We can use those cars also right here in Patrol! I actually do work, I can use a take home car. Both my kids are in college and could use my car and my wife's car, but I keep forgetting, we have to drive to work each day!
2/01/2009 11:57:00 PM
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Because he's the superintendent. Because, when something happens he has to be picked up immediately. Because he's the CEO and you're not.
Bitch about some clouted desk-dolly having a car, but don't bitch about the supe's drivers. They are the supe's drivers, which sort of requires a car and timeliness.
And, no; I don't like him or work for him, but you need a reality check.
cant speak for the exempts, but as a Sgt we take care of our car. we dont leave food, empty bottles, cigarette butts, etc...dont drive it like we are in a demolition derby.
2/01/2009 10:27:00 PM
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because you're a fucking tool that never drove a squad car in a busy district with a "working copper's" attitude or work ethic, i.e. - you've NEVER BEEN and NEVER WILL be the police. Now go back to the car wash with your squad car, you merit-hack...they forgot to put Armor-all on the tires
GPS TRACKING IS REALLY NOT DESIGNED FOR POLICE FLEET!!
GPS WAS DESIGNED TO HELP BIG FLEET'S SUCH AS FED EX, UPS, ETC. THE TRACKING SYSTEMS CAN REDUCE FUEL AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, "INCREASE ROUTING EFFICIENCIES," AND PROVIDE DRIVER SAFETY AND SECURITY.
INCREASE ROUTING EFFICIENCIES IS THE KEY !!!!!
THE ONLY BENEFIT FOR CPD? IT WILL TRACK A CAR WITH A LITTLE RED DOT ON A MAP IF A CAR GOES OUTSIDE IT'S AREA, SAY INTO THE SUBURBS. THIS REALLY DOES NOT HAPPEN SO THE MONEY SPENT IS NOT WISE. PLUS IT COST BIG BUCKS FOR A 4 YEAR CONTRACT. SPEND THE MONEY ELSEWHERE!!!!!
NAVTRAK, INC
Lets never forget to add the "paperless police department" promised with CHIS to the $$$ thrown down a hole and never to be seen again.
2/02/2009 02:34:00 AM
Absolutely true!!! Anyone ever see the one inch thick paper packet that has to be put together for every prisoner set to go to court in the morning.
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