003 Discipline
First, the impersonator gets released from custody:
- A 14-year-old boy who impersonated a Chicago police officer last month was ordered by a Cook County judge Friday to be released from custody on electronic monitors.
And now the disciplinary axe begins to fall:
On Jan. 24, the youth, wearing a police uniform, showed up at the Grand Crossing District station, allegedly saying he was a Calumet District officer assigned to traffic patrol in Grand Crossing. He signed out a radio and joined an officer in a patrol car, prosecutors said.
He then allegedly spent five hours on traffic patrol, investigators said.
The stunt set off a furor in the city, with Supt. Jody Weis eventually forced to testify before angry aldermen. An internal investigation completed this week found at least five Chicago Police employees violated department rules and regulations, investigators said this week.
We are hearing more than a few stories about who's getting what kind of time off. We're sure it'll be news when it comes to light, but the comedy of errors that led to a 14-year-old being allowed to ride along, actually drive a squad car and whatever else he did is indicative of a whole bunch of institutional shortfalls. And institutional shortfalls are the fault of the brass, not the PO's. We know who will be taking most of the time though.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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investigation completed this week found at least five Chicago Police employees violated department rules and regulations, investigators said this week.
All Blue Shirts I'm sure...
News reports say five people will take disciplinary action.
Hmmm... captain/watch commander, lieutenant, desk sergeant, watch secretary, partner?
No supervisors are taking time they were sent to training academy for fresher courses. On the other hand P.O.'s will be suspended.
I saw this little guy pulling the same stunt in last night!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/25446/the_midget_super_cop/
supposedly, five folks are being held responsible, i.e., getting "time off"...so....guesses are...the radio person who issued the radio, the partner who rode with the youth (that's two); the field Sgt. who was responsible for "logging" (and observing) the car (that's three?)....2nd watch w/c, who was on duty when this kid came in (four?) and who's five?...guesses?
But wait I heard they recently installed steps infront of the desk at 003 so the Desk Crew can actually see the little guys on the other side.
The Watch Commander should take a MINIMUM of 30 Days. Didnt the WC meet the 14yo welcome him to the District & get him a locker?
He bears ultimate responsiblity for his watch, the Axe should fall right on his neck!
Well we can all hope and pray that none of our beloved EXEMPTS are punished. But lets strictly decipline the lower ranks as they so deserve. The floggings will continue until morale imporves!
.....the comedy of errors that led to a 14-year-old being allowed to ride along, actually drive a squad car and whatever else he did is indicative of a whole bunch of institutional shortfalls. And institutional shortfalls are the fault of the brass, not the PO's. We know who will be taking most of the time though."
Agree wholeheartedly. This was a system wide problem that was only brought to light because of this kid. As a result of this look at all the changes in security at all the ditrict stations. Things would still be the same if this wouldnt have happened because no one would have noticed or done anything about the woeful security. Why does the buck have to stop with the WC which I am sure it will. Every exempt boss in patrol from
J-Fed on down is responsible for not being proactive and addressing this before we were made a national joke because of Officer Owen.
Scc, A P.O. gave him his radio. A P.O. rode with him for 5 hours. When a boss did encounter him the Boss became suspicious. It is the P.O's fault as much as anyones even though it is fasionable to always blame bosses on this site, who often diserve your scorn. This isn't one of those cases.
When Jody Weis says he has our backs he means he has found a nice spot to shove the knife in.
Security in the Chicago Police Department is a joke. Unit Reps have filed safety grievances complaining about the deplorable security around our police stations. These complaints were ignored by the command staff and not followed up by FOP.
Remember the highly publicized escapes from squadrols a few years back? The Department tried to hang it on the PO's driving the wagons, not the poor condition of the equipment.
Numerous requests for leg shackles full time on wagons were routinely refused. Then the Department was embarrassed by two highly publicized escapes and overnight leg shackles were mandatory on the squadrols.
This is how they do it here. They Command staff allows conditions and equipment to deteriorate to the point where some public screw up brings the shortcomings to light and then they blame the lowest common denominator, the officers, not the command staff who allow such poor conditions to exist.
I challenge any investigative reporter in the City to go visit suburban police departments, take a look at the security conditions there and then go to police stations within the City of Chicago and report on what you find.
That would be interesting.
SCC
After all we have "the kid" Todd Stroger playing Cook County Board President, why wouldn't we think a 14 year old was the real police?
What happened at 025 lately with a trespasser/impersonator? Heard tact got on him right away, but didn't hear details.
BEN DOVER Says:
I am willing to bet that if it is indeed 5 people, it goes down like this:
W/C, D/SGT, Radio Room P/O, 395 P/O, and then the other two... how about whatever sector SGT's they encountered, so 310/320/330. I am not sure but I thought one of these SGT's are the ones who called the kid out - but they will still take time because of it.
Will there be more then 5 taking time, HIGHLY likely, but will the D/C take time - NOT A CHANCE.
But what about Aunt Bea? Cleared up in a few minutes and resignation refused? How can that be?
I RECENTLY LOOKED OVER THE IAD "NEWS" LETTER THE ADOVACATE AND NOTICED SOME HEAVY SUSPENSION FOR THINGS LIKE BULLSHIT WEAPONS TURN INS AND A GUY THAT COMES TO ROLL CALL W/ NO VEST & GUN BELT.
IF THESE MOPES GOT HEAVY TIME FOR NONSENSE I WOULD EXPECT VERY HEAVY TIME 4 THIS!
THESE FIVE OFFICER SHOULD RAISE SOME HELL AT THE FOP MEETING!
DONT BE ASHAMED BRING UR COPIES OF DOCUMENTS!
RMEMBER WHEN J-FED WAS AT THE COUNCIL HEARING CERTAIN ALDERMEN DROPPED "BUZZ" WORDS THAT THE COMMANDER AND THE WATCH COMMANDER SHOULD SUFFER NO HARM! B-CUZ THEY R SOOOOO GREAT! DONT 4 GET WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE LAUGHABLE STATS OF THE 3RD DISTRICT!!!
IF THE OFFICER R ASHAMED THEN FALL ON THE SWORD AND HOPE U GET UR SUSPENSION TIME BACK IN A YEAR OR TWO.
in the kingdom of daley everyone is wrong!
The department is so outraged over this incident, but what have they done about it? Put some signs up, put a few ropes up, take officers off the streets to sit security.
These changes were instituted at district level, 35th street and city hall really don't care, they are secure. They allowed these buildings to be built with shotty work and with no thought of security in mind.
BUT we also need to stop passing the buck, letting that officer in that day was the officers in 003's fault who dealt with him. Exactly who, I don't know I wasn't there, but you can only have so many security measures until it falls on a person, and that person is the one who could be hurt or cause others to be hurt. We are the police, stop being afraid to confront someone in your own house, and to those of you who are pissed about being confronted, GFU!!!!
It is the P.O's fault as much as anyones even though it is fasionable to always blame bosses on this site, who often diserve your scorn. This isn't one of those cases.
3/01/2009 03:18:00 AM
Who is ultimately responsible for the open doors that led to a this? Allowing your station to be habitually unsecured is something a D/C should answer for. She would be the first one to take credit for anything good happening under her command as a product of her leadership and management, well this is a product of her mismanagement.
Its seems more fashionable to blame the P.O. but its easy to see how she got duped by a young man in uniform who is in a part of the station that only a P.O. should be.
When was the last time any of you who want the P.O. hammered for this checked an ID when a new recruit class showed up in the district? Thats right, never..
I think 5 coppers from each district should take time?
Anonymous said...
The Watch Commander should take a MINIMUM of 30 Days. Didnt the WC meet the 14yo welcome him to the District & get him a locker?
He bears ultimate responsiblity for his watch, the Axe should fall right on his neck!
3/01/2009 02:26:00 AM
Noooo. The Local Aldertheives told Weis they like him and not to punish him
Anonymous said...
Scc, A P.O. gave him his radio. A P.O. rode with him for 5 hours. When a boss did encounter him the Boss became suspicious.
Negative. Some idiot Sgt actually logged him.
I want to know how come no "reporter" like Frank Main, the Mayor's puppet, have picked up on the fact that we taxpayers are not only wasting money in a time of economic crisis but decreasing police protection for citizens. Several stations have to have officers, who could be working the streets, guarding the doors to the station. Police officers making $40,000 a year or more, 24/7 365. Millions of dollars being wanted with no end in sight because the city won't pay to get doors fixed in stations. J-Fed was hired as terrorism expert. Shouldn't his first move have been to secure his own facilities? Good reporting Frank, way to investigate. Any of you reporters check to see if doors in these stations had been requested to be secured but weren't because the city wouldn't spend the money? Isn’t J-Fed ultimately responsible for the security of the stations followed by the individual District Commander? Hasn’t J-Fed visited every station and attended at least one roll-call in every station? If this is true, shouldn’t his terrorism expertise have kicked in and caused him to have the problems with security fixed? John Kass where are you?
To the P.O. who rode with this nit wit kid...... Hang in there. If you do take anytime WE WILL HAVE A BENEFIT FOR YOU. Blue shirts need to stick together.
Instead of dishing out discipline, this entire incident should be viewed as a learning experience. It brought into focus the CPD shortfalls that all of us have known for years. It also got some bosses off their dead asses to pick up the phone and have the bare minimum of security measures put into place ASAP.
I would also be impressed if Jody publicly said as much. These are ways a true leader earns respect while at the same time admitting the CPD like all other organizations are not perfect.
The Watch Commander should take a MINIMUM of 30 Days. Didnt the WC meet the 14yo welcome him to the District & get him a locker?
He bears ultimate responsiblity for his watch, the Axe should fall right on his neck!
3/01/2009 02:26:00 AM
Unfortunately you were misinformed the W/C did not do anything you mentioned. I can assure you that if you knew what really happened and the supervisors involved, they dont deserve the B.S. that will be coming down on them. And NO this has nothing to do with white vs blue shirt.
OK everybody...."Blame Game" over. The truths are, the whole thing is funny, we (Dept. members) figured it out and took action the 1st tour he did it, and downtown over-reacted. I think what we do now is a showing of support to those to be spanked by attending the whopping great benefit party that FOP should put on. I'd like to see a "Dunk Tank" for the 35th street crowd, at the benefit. And most importantly there's a reason for the perceived "Blue Wall of Silence." If anything happens in your unit keep it to yourselves kids...or you'll all get the shaft in keeping with the age old managemnet philosophy, "We never really catch you dirty, so we'll hammer the crap out of the few we find."
I think Frosty should get 30 days pending...and a gift certificate for one free whopper w/ cheese...
"Scc, A P.O. gave him his radio. A P.O. rode with him for 5 hours. When a boss did encounter him the Boss became suspicious."
All@ the Direction of the WC, The Field Lt.& Supervising Sgt.
Boss? I got your Boss, SUCKHOLE. THAT'S WHERE YOU INCOMPETNECE
Anonymous said...
Well we can all hope and pray that none of our beloved EXEMPTS are punished. But lets strictly decipline the lower ranks as they so deserve. The floggings will continue until morale imporves!
3/01/2009 02:33:00 AM
I was cleaning out a drawer yesterday and came accross the message from J=FED that encouraged used honorable mentions and po of the month atta boys to perk-up morale.
Got news for you boss-man, the asswipes that stupid-vize my unit have stopped ALL awards like they stopped the overtime.
What do you tell these people in management classes? How to do nothing, collect d-3 & d-4 pay and retire?
A hearty fuck-you to you bosses.
Scc, A P.O. gave him his radio. A P.O. rode with him for 5 hours. When a boss did encounter him the Boss became suspicious. It is the P.O's fault as much as anyones even though it is fasionable to always blame bosses on this site, who often diserve your scorn. This isn't one of those cases.
Correct the PO who gave radio, PO who gave locker and PO who rode with him are all done.
Look on the bright side...no one let him sign out a rifle !!!
"I said cukoo once, il say it again"
Anonymous said...
Scc, A P.O. gave him his radio. A P.O. rode with him for 5 hours. When a boss did encounter him the Boss became suspicious. It is the P.O's fault as much as anyones even though it is fasionable to always blame bosses on this site, who often diserve your scorn. This isn't one of those cases.
3/01/2009 03:18:00 AM
Hey boss listen up asshole! Another reason to do less, why is the w.c. and sgt not being suspened? Why is crumpy the gun toting airport "I be the commander" not getting anytime! Yea I know she got a cr against her for the midway gun incident which will go nowhere! Hey j-fed thought you were going to hold supervisors "accountable" guess not! ssdd!
Anonymous said...
The Watch Commander should take a MINIMUM of 30 Days. Didnt the WC meet the 14yo welcome him to the District & get him a locker?
He bears ultimate responsiblity for his watch, the Axe should fall right on his neck!
3/01/2009 02:26:00 AM
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I would agree with you if indeed the watch commander was aware that someone was out there like this kid.
He was never notified that someone new showed up to work. The first thing any watch commander does in that situation is talk to the person, then pulls up their information on the computer. Since the guy was not an employee at all, he would have had no information on the computer. That would have been the major hint that something was up, even if you wanted to argue that the kid looked 21 (I can't tell you anything on that). Also, by meeting him face to face, a watch commander would have had raised suspicions over the fake badge on a young officer, and walking into his office with his hat hanging on his gunbelt, as I'm hearing he did in the station when getting his radio and locker.
Of course, the watch commander that calls someone out for wearing the Police Memorial badges on their outer garment is inevitably the "jagoff."
I know the second and third watch W/C's there in 003. Classy people who treat their people right, and ask them to take care of business. Unfortunately, a couple of people got lax, and brought unnecessary heat down on them.
and who's five?...guesses?
Supt. Jody Weis for gross negligence? Hell, he IS the $300,000 know it all, right? He should have seen this one coming and taken corrective action BEFORE it happened.
...even though it is fasionable to always blame bosses on this site, who often diserve your scorn. This isn't one of those cases.
Sorry, wrong answer, boss. Supervisors should held accountable like all the little fishes, and should fall ass first on their sword. But don't worry. Once their suspensions are over, they'll all be sent to Area 3 for a little R&R before their next promotion.
Have to agree with the other poster; POs, along with the Sgt.who "logged" that car and failed to investigate promptly why a 10-99 car was now a 10-4 unit and didn't determine the identity of the "new guy" are mostly to blame for this embarrassment. Ultimately, it's the WCs responsibility, so I see the 3rd wtc WC going down for this too (NOT the 2nd wtc WC).
Everyone involved received training at the academy last week. The captain/watch commander, 2 sergeants and 2 p.o.s.
All listed were 3rd watch personnel except for the radio room officer who was 2nd watch.
does this mean that all 5 of these officers will get to spend their suspension time with the superintendent. weis violated a court order issued by a federal judge with the mayor's blessing. at the end of the day he still violated a court order and should be held accountable. if it was you or me we wouldn't get the consideration. is their a cr number and iad investigation concerning weis's snub at the court order. while i applaude his decision, he still has to answer to his transgression. remember, we have your back if you make mistakes, so jodi can take his 30 day hit with the rest of the guys in 003 who are in a jackpot.
desk sgt, street sgt, p.o that handed out radio, p.o. that rode with him and w.c. all went to remedial training last week. Supposedly they're only looking at reprimands.
Scc, A P.O. gave him his radio. A P.O. rode with him for 5 hours. When a boss did encounter him the Boss became suspicious. It is the P.O's fault as much as anyones even though it is fasionable to always blame bosses on this site, who often diserve your scorn. This isn't one of those cases.
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What?
The PO who worked with him will get 90 days.
The PO who issued the radio will get 60 days.
The PO working the desk will get 30 days.
The PO that called in the pursuit that the kid responded to will get 10 days.
And Aunt Bea will get a reprimand for letting the kid sell drugs out of her home and giving him a CPD uniform so the police wouldn't stop him when he was serving.
The Watch Commander should take a MINIMUM of 30 Days. Didnt the WC meet the 14yo welcome him to the District & get him a locker?
He bears ultimate responsiblity for his watch, the Axe should fall right on his neck!
3/01/2009 02:26:00 AM
negative. it was the 3rd watch captain who discovered the entire thing (not a sgt like the news is reporting). and captain johnson on 3rd watch is a great guy and is great to us so i'd hate too see anything happen to him. heck all our bosses on 3rd watch are great. we're actually pretty lucky considering what a shit district we're in.
If blue shirts are the only ones getting hit on this then it just solidifies that we can never trust the leadership. Bosses will always ask us to do things that they would never do. They are protected and in the club. The P.O. will be the only one accountable. The brass just bark out orders and collect their fat checks. The blue shirt is alone when the shit hits the fan.
supposedly, five folks are being held responsible, i.e., getting "time off"...so....guesses are...the radio person who issued the radio, the partner who rode with the youth (that's two); the field Sgt. who was responsible for "logging" (and observing) the car (that's three?)....2nd watch w/c, who was on duty when this kid came in (four?) and who's five?...guesses?
Desk people should take all the blame. I have never heard of an order for 1 p.o., go to different dist. to work a dist.traffic car?Thats ridiculus!
The Watch Commander should take a MINIMUM of 30 Days. Didnt the WC meet the 14yo welcome him to the District & get him a locker?
He bears ultimate responsiblity for his watch, the Axe should fall right on his neck!
3/01/2009 02:26:00 AM
You are truly uninformed and stupid.STFU please.
Scc, A P.O. gave him his radio. A P.O. rode with him for 5 hours. When a boss did encounter him the Boss became suspicious. It is the P.O's fault as much as anyones even though it is fasionable to always blame bosses on this site, who often diserve your scorn. This isn't one of those case
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This is absolutely one of these cases. Why didn't the W/C make this traffic car stand roll call like everyone else has to? Seems to me if a W/C has to see his cars and who is on them before they hit the street, this would have immediately been discovered.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
News reports say five people will take disciplinary action.
Hmmm... captain/watch commander, lieutenant, desk sergeant, watch secretary, partner?
3/01/2009 12:40:00 AM
More like, 2 desk officers, radio room copper, cooper in the locker room taking a dump, and the traffic copper.
The w/c and desk sgt. were both found not-culpable in the matter. They were in a closed door meeting and couldn't be disturbed. They were planing CAPS operations and outdoor roll calls.
Together we Can.
No supervisors are taking time they were sent to training academy for fresher courses. On the other hand P.O.'s will be suspended.
3/01/2009 12:46:00 AM
Not true. I personally know 1 Sgt who is looking at days for this. Its totaly BS. The city has to show someone getting spanked. I'll be at this Sgt's benefit for sure!
.....the comedy of errors that led to a 14-year-old being allowed to ride along, actually drive a squad car and whatever else he did is indicative of a whole bunch of institutional shortfalls. And institutional shortfalls are the fault of the brass, not the PO's. We know who will be taking most of the time though."
Agree wholeheartedly. This was a system wide problem that was only brought to light because of this kid. As a result of this look at all the changes in security at all the ditrict stations. Things would still be the same if this wouldnt have happened because no one would have noticed or done anything about the woeful security. Why does the buck have to stop with the WC which I am sure it will. Every exempt boss in patrol from
J-Fed on down is responsible for not being proactive and addressing this before we were made a national joke because of Officer Owen.
3/01/2009 03:17:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Scc, A P.O. gave him his radio. A P.O. rode with him for 5 hours. When a boss did encounter him the Boss became suspicious. It is the P.O's fault as much as anyones even though it is fasionable to always blame bosses on this site, who often diserve your scorn. This isn't one of those cases.
3/01/2009 03:18:00 AM
Thanks for the input, boss.
You are a company stooge to the bone.
No one said some coppers shouldn't get dinged, however, at least 3 supervisors should get slammed. Desk sgt., sector sgt., w/c.
It is the responsibility of supervisors to ensure that department policy is adhered to.
If not, then they are not needed.
poor attitutdes toward security have been a problem for years. that kind of attitude comes from the top down and not the bottom up. bosses are responsible for encouraging their officers to be vigilant about station security. if the bosses don't care, the rank and file won't care. therefore, the bosses should be held responsible.
This is a disgrace. Who ever is in charge of the training academy should be fired. He/she is a disgrace. The district commander should be fired he/she is a discrace. The w/c should be given at least 30 days, the Sgt. if there was one should be given 30 days. Apparently training at roll call does not exist, again the academy fault. The uniforms are a disgrace, can't tell who is the police anymore. If you can't or won't do it for yourselves at least do it for the guys who gave it their all. Look at the wall of honor and who ever trains you guys should apologize to them. The superintendent should resign on his own and admit he can't handle the job. I have been retired a long time and admit I don't know how everything works these days, but you people who run this department at least make an effort. To you guys who want to be and are the police be careful watch out of each other and GOOD LUCK.
Scc, A P.O. gave him his radio. A P.O. rode with him for 5 hours. When a boss did encounter him the Boss became suspicious. It is the P.O's fault as much as anyones even though it is fasionable to always blame bosses on this site, who often diserve your scorn. This isn't one of those cases.
3/01/2009 03:18:00 AM
Well what story is it, I’m still waiting for the bottom line, obviously you are one of “those” suopevisors that just seems to excel on bullshit and having your head up your ass and getting promoted by who you blow and not by what you know… nice spelling, I rest my case.
Probably the reason the brass takes some heat here is because, at times, it’s well deserved, maybe the fact that most won’t stand up for anyone regardless of right or wrong. If you think I’m wrong, strap on a pair and try it once, those who do usually have the respect of their officers.
I'm a beatslug but let's come on folks. There is so much blame to go around it's endless but the fact that a P.O. rode around with this kid for 5 hours????????
The VIKING in 023 SAYS THIS:
DC takes time.
WC takes time.
Desk Sgt. takes time.
Field Lt. (if there was one) takes time.
P.O. who signed out(issued)radio takes time.
P.O. who rode with jr. takes time.
This is the fair way to do it. The USMC would do it this way so there, CPD, its fair and the thing to do. I dont care about the fundraiser or whatever, this is fair, they dropped the ball. Take ownwership of your accomplishments and shortcomings.
This is not the end of the world, in 5 yrs it will be a legendary story (1 of many) on the CPD.
Suspension time is the only way to get time off these days with the manpower so low!! put'em next to my RDO's.
Discipline Burger Queen first.
There should be a log-in system with badge and empl#. When you log in these numbers the face of the employee shows up on the screen, just like running a SOS DL or ID...this is the type of system that needs to be implemented.
Whatever happened to the D/C who appeared at O'hare with the weapon? Any discipline or was that swept under the rug?
I wouldn't go to any benefit for the P.O. who rode around for hours, with this little kid wanna-be , anyone that DUMB and un-observant shouldn't be on this job. Nobody's perfect, but Man O' Man, where is the line drawn???
Stupid is as Stupid does,
signed FORREST GUMP
We should imbed a microchip in the skulls of all sworn CPD personnel. A bar code tatooed on the nape of the neck would be a failsafe precaution.
We must think outside of the box because nobody gives a fuck anymore.
As long as the pussies JM (To the 10th power), CF and SI take time, whatever. They were too kool 4 skool that day, so have that fuckers.
I wouldn't go to any benefit for the P.O. who rode around for hours, with this little kid wanna-be , anyone that DUMB and un-observant shouldn't be on this job. Nobody's perfect, but Man O' Man, where is the line drawn???
Stupid is as Stupid does,
signed FORREST GUMP
3/01/2009 07:20:00 PM
You ma'am are the problem with this department. We need to stand by eachother.
Tickets to a benefit were being sold for an F1 P.O. that was getting fired. Nobody in 011 liked her. Guess what? Still bought the tickets.
Quit being so selfish and scared.
Question here: are there always two people assigned to a TRAFFIC CAR? In the traffic division I can see two manned cars on nights, but two during the day? Is this a normal procedure elsewhere? I haven't seem a district two manned traffic any where else. t/y
4 POs and the janitor.
I RECENTLY LOOKED OVER THE IAD "NEWS" LETTER THE ADOVACATE AND NOTICED SOME HEAVY SUSPENSION FOR THINGS LIKE BULLSHIT WEAPONS TURN INS AND A GUY THAT COMES TO ROLL CALL W/ NO VEST & GUN BELT.
You don't suppose that just maybe, the guy who came to roll call w/o his vest and gun belt was 'lit up' and told the W/C to 'fuck off' and instead of giving him a "reporting to work while intoxicated beef" and making him blow, they went about it another way? Still gets time, but a much better beef....
Something a 2 year hair gel wonder wouldn't understand.............
Anonymous said...
To the P.O. who rode with this nit wit kid...... Hang in there. If you do take anytime WE WILL HAVE A BENEFIT FOR YOU. Blue shirts need to stick together.
3/01/2009 10:16:00 AM
Yes. we'll have 007 capt bubbahead take up a collection. You'll get the entire $65.
Bottom line is that this could ONLY happen in 003.
It used to take 3 years to get a locker in the old 018 Howd this guy get one his first day??
And how much suspension time is Daley going to get for presiding for 20 years over this ever-growing mess of a police department?
He wants to blame people all the time, HE IS THE FUCKING BIG BOSS, HE deserves much of the blame for preventing the police department from joining the 21st Century.
The rest of the country is way ahead of us, hell, most good sized suburbs are way ahead of us. NYPD has a very respectable counter terrorism unit. What do we have? Signs taped to the doors that say "You Must Wear Your ID" and "Police Officers Only" That's great security.
I saw a long time detective who made his own statement on our security, he had his ID card copied and blown up to 8.5 x 11 inches and then pinned that to his shirt.
Anonymous said...
News reports say five people will take disciplinary action.
Hmmm... captain/watch commander, lieutenant, desk sergeant, watch secretary, partner?
3/01/2009 12:40:00 AM
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Dear reporter,
The Captain retired and there was no lieutenant. Now fuck off.
The Queen solution is to have the back doors locked, so the poor officer stuck inside has to get up to open the door every time someone wants to come in. If she can take her gun to the airport with nothing happening,this incident (a internationally known f*** up) won't touch the Burger Queen either, & she knows it. Can't wait till she and her staff are gone.
They work in 003!
Isn't that punishment enough.
Anonymous said...
The VIKING in 023 SAYS THIS:
DC takes time.
WC takes time.
Desk Sgt. takes time.
Field Lt. (if there was one) takes time.
P.O. who signed out(issued)radio takes time.
P.O. who rode with jr. takes time.
This is the fair way to do it. The USMC would do it this way so there, CPD, its fair and the thing to do. I dont care about the fundraiser or whatever, this is fair, they dropped the ball. Take ownwership of your accomplishments and shortcomings.
This is not the end of the world, in 5 yrs it will be a legendary story (1 of many) on the CPD.
3/01/2009 05:39:00 PM
First off you listed 6, not 5 (Semper Fi!). Second, this ain't the Marine Corps. If it was so great, you should have stayed. The average age of a marine is 23. I'm 48 with a wife, three kids, and all the shit that comes with it. I don't need to be treated like a child. Like most yappers you were probably a weekend warrior. And finally...yes I am jealous. I wanted to be a marine, but I exceeded the maximum height standard of 5'6".
Is it true the Commander of 003 told iad there was "laxitivity" involved?
Makes me so proud.
Hey you guys do a great job! But that is the funniest story ever
Discipline Burger Queen first
you should run the queens arrest history and complimentary history in the clear system since 1985. this is the honest truth....less than 10 arrests since 1985 and 1 honorable mention..... dont belive me...check it out.
Anonymous said...
The VIKING in 023 SAYS THIS:
DC takes time.
WC takes time.
Desk Sgt. takes time.
Field Lt. (if there was one) takes time.
P.O. who signed out(issued)radio takes time.
P.O. who rode with jr. takes time.
This is the fair way to do it. The USMC would do it this way so there, CPD, its fair and the thing to do. I dont care about the fundraiser or whatever, this is fair, they dropped the ball. Take ownwership of your accomplishments and shortcomings.
This is not the end of the world, in 5 yrs it will be a legendary story (1 of many) on the CPD.
3/01/2009 05:39:00 PM
First off you listed 6, not 5 (Semper Fi!). Second, this ain't the Marine Corps. If it was so great, you should have stayed. The average age of a marine is 23. I'm 48 with a wife, three kids, and all the shit that comes with it. I don't need to be treated like a child. Like most yappers you were probably a weekend warrior. And finally...yes I am jealous. I wanted to be a marine, but I exceeded the maximum height standard of 5'6".
3/01/2009 10:36:00 PM
As for the original poster he was probably motor-t or a cook. As for the second poster you were probably "lifting" you can now take your elevator shoes off.
Semper Fi from a grunt 0351/0331
The Police and Fire Commission, the Alderman who are a part of it and the city counsel are really ALL figure heads and Daley's puppets. We see how powerful, how much respect and how they are viewed by Superintendent Weis' response. They called him down, which happened to be just hours prior of the same day as Asst. Supt. Beatrice Ceullos daughters' house guest was arrested on felony gun and narcotic charges after a search warrant was conducted in a condominium she owns and her daughter resides. Its funny but it was all over the news, but not one word about it was mentioned as Jodi was on the hot seat or rather the luke warm seat. I would have questioned him better than that! Was it because your brother Anthony "Tony' Carothers was promised a position next promotion go around's?
Anyway, Ald. Carothers and crew demanded a full investigation and Jodi promised it would be complete by 23 February 2009. It is now 1 March 2009 and I haven't seen or heard of a report, nor has any of the Aldermen, nor has the community in which the Supt. is suppose to serve. Now, why wouldn't it have come out yet? Could it be because he doesn't respect any of you and just does what the fuck he wants to do or is it because he decided to take his wife on a vacation 1 day after 3 children were shot and killed at one time and 2 more shot and killed in other locations?
It was also a few days after the department was once again humiliated with the P.O. bus incident, and right after no time frame or discipline has been discussed regarding Aunt Bea. Oh yeah, that's right, she is your wife's shopping buddy, so she deserves a pass and whoever leaked the story to the media, shame on them as Jodi has publicly said at least 9 times. The best defense for an attorney to use now a days to get a dead beat land lord off!! Thanks Jodi, we really see all of our years of hard work is ruined with one stupid comment by the SUPERINTENDENT OF POLICE! You have single handedly fucked us up for at least 30 years, thank you! Now after you take our tax payers dollars of what about 1 million big ones after only 3 years, you will be moving to a much safer area because by then, Chicago will be too fucked up for any normal person to voluntarily live in. We will once again, thank you!
Should be the Deputy Chief and the Commander, that is it!
It was also a few days after the department was once again humiliated with the P.O. bus incident, and right after no time frame or discipline has been discussed regarding Aunt Bea.
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I don't know about you, but I certainly didn't see that video as humiliating to the department. I think the officer did a fine job and he was given positive feedback by the citizens in general.
As for the second poster you were probably "lifting" you can now take your elevator shoes off.
Semper Fi from a grunt 0351/0331
3/02/2009 12:18:00 AM
It's "heightening" tough guy. This is a police blog. If you're employed by the CPD then you are a cop not a grunt. I really don't care what you did 20 years ago (or last weekend for that matter). If you are in fact a naval infantryman, then go find a blog of your own.
There are plenty of other things that show systemic problems in CPD.
A lot of them have to do with little or no responsibility being taken at all levels.
I am not sure there are good answers to just how to handle this kind of situation.
Its not really fair to blame anyone individually for the things that go wrong because of systemic problems, but you have to start somewhere.
The USMC would do it this way so there, CPD, its fair and the thing to do.
What is it with all you jarheads living in the past? When your enlistment was up you ran for the door, but now it's semper fi this and oo rah that. The rest of us who got drafted or enlisted went in, did our thing, got out and moved on. No fucked up looking tattoos, no birthday celebrations, no bumper stickers. One Marine or Army guy sees combat( and God bless all who do)for every ten in the service (who are just as important). To listen now you were all a bunch of Chesty Pullers. What the fuck, get over yourselves.
Before you ask, I drove a truck in the Army.
First of all marine wanna be, I'm not 5-6 Im 6-3 and YOU WILL ALWAYS LOOK UP TO ME. If you doubt come to 023 2nd watch ask for VIKING, and dont wear your pumps I mean platform shoes. And I was not motor T, I was an MP NOT A COOK BUT I REALLY LIKE EATING, SO.....
Why does anybody have to take time? This kid pulled off a scam and almost got away with it. He was caught. We know we have a weakness in the perimeter. Fix the weakness and it shouldnt happen again. Whose fault is this? Its the kids fault! Charge him just like any other offender and lets get on with our lives. Why is it every time something goes wrong somebody HAS to take time? Made a mountain out of a molehill. Always somebody has to pay, thats not good sense, thats politics!!
First off you listed 6, not 5 (Semper Fi!). Second, this ain't the Marine Corps. If it was so great, you should have stayed. The average age of a marine is 23. I'm 48 with a wife, three kids, and all the shit that comes with it. I don't need to be treated like a child. Like most yappers you were probably a weekend warrior. And finally...yes I am jealous. I wanted to be a marine, but I exceeded the maximum height standard of 5'6".
3/01/2009 10:36:00 PM
As for the original poster he was probably motor-t or a cook. As for the second poster you were probably "lifting" you can now take your elevator shoes off.
Semper Fi from a grunt 0351/0331
3/02/2009 12:18:00 AM
God you guys are assholes. Which one has the bigger dick, huh? Who the fuck cares, you're on the same side aren't you? So act like it.
Something a 2 year hair gel wonder wouldn't understand.............
3/01/2009 08:35:00 PM
Yeah... because a "2 year hair gel" probably thinks that showing up to work hammered is a bit troubling, and perhaps the Captain is enabling this clown by allowing him to get away with this atrocity rather than seeing the guy gets help! And if doing the right thing means this drunk loses his job, SO FUCKING BE IT! Id rather one drunk loses his job, gets a wake up call and gets sober than have to be around this drunk on the street! This drunk is endangering the lives of not only citizens, but fellow officers and this job has no place for the drunk! I guarantee this is not the first time the drunk has pulled this! If you cannot come to work sober, get a new fucking job! Come to work drunk if you are my partner and I will give you one chance to ecuse yourself C/U before I so straight to the Sgt and report the problem!
I think Frosty should get 30 days pending...and a gift certificate for one free whopper w/ cheese..
LMAO.Three Rocks.6217 rots.10 sector 4ever.
If you doubt come to 023 2nd watch ask for VIKING
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Man...that's hardcore. You're really in the shit. Just where I'd expect a marine.
Anonymous said...
The VIKING in 023 SAYS THIS:
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Is it just me, or does anyone else think that it's idiotic to call yourself by a nickname, especially 'the Viking?'
That tells me all I need to know about this nitwit.
But thank you for your service to our country anyway, 'Viking'. (seriously).
As for the second poster you were probably "lifting" you can now take your elevator shoes off.
Semper Fi from a grunt 0351/0331
3/02/2009 12:18:00 AM
It's "heightening" tough guy. This is a police blog. If you're employed by the CPD then you are a cop not a grunt. I really don't care what you did 20 years ago (or last weekend for that matter). If you are in fact a naval infantryman, then go find a blog of your own.
3/02/2009 02:31:00 PM
Obviously you did not watch the Seinfeld episode. Yes I'm a tough guy tough enough to be a Marine. Semper Fi and stay frosty.
First of all marine wanna be, I'm not 5-6 Im 6-3 and YOU WILL ALWAYS LOOK UP TO ME. If you doubt come to 023 2nd watch ask for VIKING, and dont wear your pumps I mean platform shoes. And I was not motor T, I was an MP NOT A COOK BUT I REALLY LIKE EATING, SO.....
3/02/2009 07:59:00 PM
Dear Biking or Bi King
Stay of the blog and go guard the front gate. Don't forget to salute as the car with the blue base sticker comes in the gate even if its pimply teenager.
I will take sick leave for as long as the PO's get suspended in support of my co-workers.
All stations are to have a life sized picture of yosemite sam by the radio room. the sign will have sam saying you must be this tall to ride in a police car.
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