Realignment Rumors Get Louder
More than 1,200 times last year, residents of the South Chicago and Gresham police districts called 911, and there was no car available to respond.
In the Foster Avenue and Belmont districts on the North Side, the same thing happened only ten times.
On Thursday, those disparate figures for “radio assignment pending” calls were introduced by disgruntled Chicago aldermen as “Exhibit A” in the case for beat realignment, something that hasn’t been done in Chicago since 1985.
- Carothers said he’s so tired of waiting for Police Supt. Jody Weis to deliver the police equivalent of reapportionment, he’s threatening to push through a City Council “order” that it be done by a specific date.
Deputy Superintendent Dugan gives a hint of what's to come:
As for the geographic disparity in “radio assignment pending” calls, Dugan said “violence and life-and-limb” calls are always moved to the “top of the pile.” It’s the borderline calls that sometimes get short-shrift — and might need to be handled differently.
“We as a department dispatch approximately 68 percent of the calls we receive at the 911 center. Look at major cities throughout the United States. They’re dispatching at about 30 percent,” Dugan said.
“We might be a victim of our own success. We’ve asked people to call 911, and people call 911. Are they all the right calls? Or can we maybe [divert some calls] to a more appropriate venue that doesn’t require a police officer actually showing up at the scene.”
Re-prioritize the call system first. Then hire 1,000 cops. Then close two districts while realigning everything. Problem solved.
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Dan Dugan says: "Or can we maybe [divert some calls] to a more appropriate venue that doesn’t require a police officer actually showing up at the scene.”
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I say divert the calls to the aldercreatures office.
SCC STATED..."Re-prioritize the call system first. Then hire 1,000 cops. Then close two districts while realigning everything. Problem solved."
UUUMMMM WTF? Close TWO Dists? WHY? How about something as simple as HIRING MORE FUCKING POLICE! We were doing great in the '80s-'90's when we has about 11000 sworn in 25 Dists!
It's too easy and simple and logical, just end the time consuming wasted B.S. that accomplishes absolutely nothing positive or preventable and keeps the working coppers frustated and "handcuffed" in regards to being productive, proactive and dedicated to preventive patrolling!!
Daley made this mess and when we vote him out someone eles will have to fix it............
Werid! My sgt and I were talking about this today [re-aligning the districts]. He's going to think I'm Seiser.
Start with the 008th District first. Split it at Pulaski so the HARD WORKING, LAW ABIDING, HIGH TAX PAYING citizens can finally get the True Police service they deserve. The Guys working the west-end can only do so much after being continually dragged to the east and far east end of the 008 whilst burglaries, robberies, tagging and gang related incidents are on the rise out west only to be stacked in the waiting. 811 & 812's beat is the size of the 007th district and we are LUCKY if there are 2 cars up in that area that size....WHAT A JOKE. Its more important to dispatch all the nonsense out east and hold every car down on it and all the while the west end gets short changed......time after time after time. Another area is Saint Bede, just look at what has happened there in the past 3yrs! Talk about sad. A great area now in peril cause the cancer has spread and there is no 834 to be seen cause its always held down at Ford City nonsense or east-end bullshit. And for the people who will complain about the split citing "there are only taking care of the white areas! or "they are only doing it cause the police live out there!" I say to you that the east end will also benefit because you will have more police to answer you calls of nonsense. Lets face it. Biggest residential district in the city, highest calls for service, backlogg EVERYDAY 8am to 3am winter thru summer, a major airport, ford city area, scottsdale area, some of the worst public schools in terms of violence before/after school, and the list goes on and on. Its a dam miracle that no Police Officer has gotten seriously hurt out here. If any place needs the help, it would be the 008th district. The men and women out here are doing amazing things everyday out there in 008. Time to help out and help the other Districts too! Put aside the political nonsense and use some COMMON SENSE city council, jody weis and Mayor daley.....the Police and Citizens deserve it! Stay safe everyone, watch your partners back, and always go home safe to your loved ones. Sorry for the long rant, but it had to be said. Contract NOW!
*FromAgoodHardWorkingPoJustLikeYou*
Former LAPD Chief Bill Gates quoted in his book "Chief" Chicago is the only Police Department that he knows of that sends a uniformed response to 95% of it's 911 Calls. Daley's prevailing thought has always been if the called the Police, no matter how arcane or ridiculous send the Police.
It's 2009 & we STILL Handwrite reports? That sums up this state of the art Department.
I was told that he real reason JFed was hired was because he had an 'in' with people on the Olympic Committee
Makes sense to me
I handle two jobs this week of Daddy not picking me up from the united center , and I need to be at the grey hound station in 15minutes . Are we the police or a cab service?
maybe the reason there are sooooo many calls in da hood is because they act like animals.
back logs each and everyday, every shift every week of every month for the past 2 years +. nothings being done about it. we're short close to 3,000 officers but nothings being done about it. sgts are coding thousands of disturbance jobs without even sending a car to respond or investigate (that blows my mind). Public - wake up and start bitching already.
off topic, but to the coppers in 008 and mobile strike force, thanks for all of the help in the midway neighborhood(64/long) when it went up for grabs and a 10-1 was called by an off duty who was in serious trouble. from what i heard m.s.f. responded and caught all of the bad guys and did a great job. its suprising to hear that msf is hangin out on the west end but thanks for responding and grabbing the bad guys because there is still alot of us that live in that neighborhood... keep it up guys, glad to see a unit helpin the tax payers and not just in the ghetto.
after all is said and done-- we flood more police into areas that pay no taxes and hate the police and we leave the people in the good neighborhoods to fend for themselves. news flash to all po's-- bid into a district close to where you live and make a difference. fuck working the ghetto, court time is good but you can do without it. look at all the assholes invading 016-- some good coppers working there trying to make a difference but they need help-- the district is to big and they have a skeleton crew out there every night. time to open an area 6 which would encompass 016 and 017-- give the taxpayers the service they deserve.
Bla Bla Bla! We have been hearing about this for a long time. THe problem is corrupt politicians. They run the police department and it's all about votes. Why the hell do we need 50 aldermen in chicago but only 2 senators in each state? Chicago is one sad JOKE! Now I have to finish my ethics training.
OT: Hi SCC, Missy here.
How come you are not posting my comments. I am a good P.O. and wanted people to pay attention to me. Spankdaddy wants to show me horse back riding !
xox
Missy 001 district
On behalf of DS Dugan, I can tell you now that if you are still doing "Missions" just to get a number, with no specific reason, he wants that shit to stop. He told me personally, and in my district on my watch, we don't do them anymore unless there is a very specific reason for them, very rarely.
Met a guy last week, 30 years old, who sired 10 children. When asked, he could remember only 4 of their names. Better than that though, he could only recall 3 of his 7 baby mamas names. CPS angels are the angels of death they are for good reason.
What I see is shit districts getting more beats and my neighborhood beat getting even bigger! Fuck that shit.
UUUMMMM WTF? Close TWO Dists? WHY? How about something as simple as HIRING MORE FUCKING POLICE!=============
SCC makes sense, because in reality, were short almost 2,000 cops from 20 years ago. Daley isn't going to hire like that ever again, so 1,000 new hires and 600 from two closed districts almost makes up the gap, it eliminates at least a few exempt spots and allows the city to close two outdated buildings that leak money without spending on the capital improvements that two brand new stations would entail.
After you create a "Nanny state" it is very hard to move away from it.
I have a feeling that if Districts are re-aligned,old timers that have basically been thinking of retiring may just do it and our numbers will shrink even more.
Dugan hit the nail on the head. The whole public mentality of calling 911 for every single thing is outdated and given current manpower statistics near impossible to handle adequately. Get the desk dollies out, clear out those hiding at 35th street, have dispatchers funnel the calls where they belong. The solutions are not easy, it would be easier if those who use the 911 system the most had some common sense, but we know that ain't gonna happen.
Man the CPD properly! Hire the 2,000 police officers and forget about depriving tax paying citizens of their districts and beat officers.
Mark my words, Daley will be gone in two years if any police service is affected in 008, 016, 017, 019, 020, 022, 023.
I guarantee you this will be the Daley Finale. He is on thin ice now with the voters, take their police away and watch how quickly he is gone.
How about having folks use call back(311) for Offender not on scene, or unknown. Like the guy who finds a broken window on his car, garage, home, etc... Or screen out those which are civil in nature. No more 10 yr. old kid, grandbaby, son, being disrespectful nonsense.
In 004 Dugan...you can prioritize calls how ever you want. There is still no one to send. Please think before you speak. You obviously do not understand. 004 is way too big. It needs to be smaller or the manpower has to be given a boost. I don't think it's right that the outside units come in here (like TRU) and do not have to answer a radio assignment when all cars are down and long backlogged. What makes them so ELITE? I await your answer Dep.
I live in 016 and I hope they shrink the size of the beats in the 010 sector because the animals have arrived. Do you think our useless Ald Doherty will step up and ever complain we get no police service in our neighborhood?
No matter what smoke and mirrors BS they try and pull the real answer is we are extremly short staffed. that is the real problem.
U notice that 019 and 020 were mentioned as having the fewest raps. That should tell the idiot mayor once and for all to close 023. Not that long ago there was no 023. 019 and 020 handled what is now 023. 019 is an area and 020 has a new building. That leaves 023 as the odd man out. The city supposedly has land purchased to be the new 023. Sell the land!!!!!!! The property has to be worth a ton of money. That would put money in the cities coffers. The dists of 019, 020, and 023 each only have 9 beats. Close 023 and turn 019 and 020 into 12 beat dists. The problem would be solved. U just have to add a few extra foot posts to 019 to cover some nightlife spots that would be picked up in the change.
I worked in 019, the dist is slow and so is 023. We might as well not exist in the winter. I have worked in 020 its even slower than the other two dists.
The police are despised by the yuppies, gays, lesbians, and all the other liberals in the area. The police wouldn't be missed.
The mainstream media wouldn’t do it. So we are trying to get your important messages to the American people. This post is a suggested read at, http://aresay.blogspot.com/ 6
Its at least 12 million dollars cheaper to hire more police and add new beats to 3, 4, 6 and 8. 7 is just fucked up for fucked up reasons. I wouldn't care if you added 1000 more police. Anyway, this really is not rocket science, use your fucking brains. Oops, I keep forgetting, none of you came up through the ranks so you really have no clue! Thanks JFed
The saga continues........
Say "bye bye"
Doty's darling Prairie Dogs !!!!
021st District RIP
?????- 2009
Great, now I'm never going to see my beat car!!!!!!!!!!! Hey Jody, split the 008th district in half. It's too big and I'll be happy to bid to the new 26th district and work the west end. You know, where the residents actually wave with all their fingers. How is it that 811 and 812 together are about the size of most districts yet never have a car on them? What, just because I don't call 911 because my kid's being disrespectful means I don't get police service? Man am I glad I own a gun....
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UUUMMMM WTF? Close TWO Dists? WHY? How about something as simple as HIRING MORE FUCKING POLICE!=============
SCC makes sense, because in reality, were short almost 2,000 cops from 20 years ago. Daley isn't going to hire like that ever again, so 1,000 new hires and 600 from two closed districts almost makes up the gap, it eliminates at least a few exempt spots and allows the city to close two outdated buildings that leak money without spending on the capital improvements that two brand new stations would entail.
4/17/2009 06:03:00 AM
How about taking some of the really shit areas and given them to some suburbs, UN-annexation. Make it someone else's problem.
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I handle two jobs this week of Daddy not picking me up from the united center , and I need to be at the grey hound station in 15minutes . Are we the police or a cab service?
4/17/2009 01:09:00 AM
I hope you didnt take them there!!!
The only thing that re-districting is going to do is fuck over the residents that actually pay taxes, work hard for a living, and deserve police service. Why should we respond to domestics over who gets the remote control, last chicken leg/grape pop, etc.
Dugan is right. When I worked in 014 we would constantly get calls about traffic at Fullerton and Elston. Complete nonsense and of course a waste of time.
A few days ago in 025 a woman called for the police 3 times because her 8 year old nephew punched her 3 year old boy. Some nitwit actually pulled an RD for the event. She wanted the 8 year old locked up for battery.
What a waste of police time and resources.
Needless to say she didn't receive police service - for the obvious reason that we shouldn't be incarcerating 8 year olds for acting like an 8 year old. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it also against the law to lock anyone under the age of 10?
after all is said and done-- we flood more police into areas that pay no taxes and hate the police and we leave the people in the good neighborhoods to fend for themselves.
4/17/2009 12:46:00 AM
Amen to that. Take care of the good, law abiding tax-payers and let God sort out the others.
Too Many Dummies said...
Dan Dugan says: "Or can we maybe [divert some calls] to a more appropriate venue that doesn’t require a police officer actually showing up at the scene.”
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I say divert the calls to the aldercreatures office.
4/17/2009 12:11:00 AM
True! They carry guns,and they have badges (gold stars look like exempt badges), let them "cowboy" alderidiots their areas! Why not let them work for that big wasted check?
4/17/2009 12:46:00 AM
Amen!!
Again more lies out of Jfed's mouth, I watched an interview with him and I believe it was on 7 at 5 in the morning. He said we have 13,000 Police officers while responding to questions about Frugoli's matter. Would someone please release the correct number to the media. Please Jfed just leave already you are a fucking liar and morale is in the toilet, whether you want to believe it or not.
west end 10-1 in 008 said...
off topic, but to the coppers in 008 and mobile strike force, thanks for all of the help in the midway neighborhood(64/long) when it went up for grabs and a 10-1 was called by an off duty who was in serious trouble. from what i heard m.s.f. responded and caught all of the bad guys and did a great job. its suprising to hear that msf is hangin out on the west end but thanks for responding and grabbing the bad guys because there is still alot of us that live in that neighborhood... keep it up guys, glad to see a unit helpin the tax payers and not just in the ghetto.
I have seen the msf coppers stopping cars on 811's huge beat thanks from a taxpaying copper! With the idiots from summit threatening to do more shit,keep those pos west of the border!!
west end 10-1 in 008 said...
off topic, but to the coppers in 008 and mobile strike force, thanks for all of the help in the midway neighborhood(64/long) when it went up for grabs and a 10-1 was called by an off duty who was in serious trouble. from what i heard m.s.f. responded and caught all of the bad guys and did a great job. its suprising to hear that msf is hangin out on the west end but thanks for responding and grabbing the bad guys because there is still alot of us that live in that neighborhood... keep it up guys, glad to see a unit helpin the tax payers and not just in the ghetto.
4/17/2009 02:41:00 AM
The acting C.O. in msf has a background with tac teams and is 1 of the few in this dept.who know the job and care about the taxpayers!
I say divert the calls to the aldercreatures office.
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Great idea! Even better, let's split Englewood or Gresham and have the aldercreatures staff half. There must be SOME reason they carry guns and badges.
Ah, man. I just love those "make my kids listen to me" and "tell my kid to stay in school" calls. Nobody ever trained me to be a family counselor...they did, however, train me to lock up and/or kill people.
UUUMMMM WTF? Close TWO Dists? WHY? How about something as simple as HIRING MORE FUCKING POLICE!
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Sure.. then increase everyone's income tax to 45% to pay for it?????
Who's calling the police more?
The BASTARD lazy scumbags who pay THE LEASE TAXES!!!!!
Close 2 OR 3 DISTRICTS . .
AND CLOSE 20 to 25 WARDS and combine them with other wards.
How about eliminate the waste of time seatbelt missions, the accomplish-nothing outdoor roll calls and the 'hold down two cars' at high school dismissals? That would free up about twenty hours of police availability time per tour.
Whatever districts that our aldermen choose to close, should be annexed to the closest suburb. Then they can run in the new suburb for aldermen.
Daley is not going to hire any new Officers until the pension REFORM committee presents it's recomendations to his highness.
All NEW officers will be a 401k and the rest of us are on our own until the pension money runs out oe is stolen! Daley has not paid the fund in years to what he is supposed to pay annually and the Director will not push the issue since he is appointed by his highness!
Disability Officers are supposed to be paid by the city but ours are paid by our fund, When asked to file a suit regarding this situation both Hauser and the Director refused to answer or be part of a suit!
So as to hiring any new Officers, MAYBE not this year or until this report comes out! Daley can then take this money for his precious OLYMPICS!
While were cutting thing lets cut the aldermen in half that will make a difference.
If I remember correctly beats were re-aligned in the early 90s in some districts, 025 comes to mind.
off topic, but to the coppers in 008 and mobile strike force, thanks for all of the help in the midway neighborhood(64/long) when it went up for grabs and a 10-1 was called by an off duty who was in serious trouble. from what i heard m.s.f. responded and caught all of the bad guys and did a great job. its suprising to hear that msf is hangin out on the west end but thanks for responding and grabbing the bad guys because there is still alot of us that live in that neighborhood... keep it up guys, glad to see a unit helpin the tax payers and not just in the ghetto.
4/17/2009 02:41:00 AM
more info my old block what happened.
are they gonna re align my property taxes?
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Met a guy last week, 30 years old, who sired 10 children. When asked, he could remember only 4 of their names. Better than that though, he could only recall 3 of his 7 baby mamas names. CPS angels are the angels of death they are for good reason.
4/17/2009 04:29:00 AM
That's exactly why we need more funding for the Chicago Public Schools.
Another thing about 008 there are NINE high schools in 008, and only 4 of them are not really trouble schools (Maria, St. Rita, Luther and Hancock) Good thing is that when they open the school at 55th and St Louis that will be a 009 problem except for when they get out of school and it will take some problems away from Kennedy, because the kids east will want to go there instead of Kennedy, I do not think that there are any other districts that have more high schools in them. the least thing that should be done with 008 is give everything east of California to 007 and 022 and south of 79th and east of Cicero to 022 also and keep or get more officers in the district so that these areas can be remappedinto smaller beats
Do they really automatically dispatch a car for every ambulance call? Unless its a violent call, we (Fire Dept) really dont need you guys there, or ask either. If you didnt show up, we wouldnt even know. The OEMC already sends way too many people for every nonsense call.
Tax payers, get ready to bend over and lube it up. now you will really get no po-lice service. You heard it here first.
Tax payers in 008,022,016,019,020,017 be ready to have no police. i would contact your aldermen ASAP
A celebration of sorts will be in order very soon.
Richard M. Daley assumed the throne, er, was elected to the office of mayor on April 24, 1989.
On April 24, 2009 he will celebrate his 20th year as leader of the most corrupt city in America.
How can we as police help him celebrate and show him how much we care?
All paper jobs are supposed to be done by 311. How many times do you go to a job that the offender is not on scene and the caller tells the operator that when they call. No reason for a car to respond to write a criminal damage report. Theft reports should be done by 311.
Parents calling because their kids don't want to go to school or their kids are disrespecting them is not a call that requires police service. Raise your own kids!!!
Kids playing basketball in the street shouldn't even be dispatched unless you have a complainant. I'd rather have them playing than shooting.
A missing person should be done over the phone to the missing persons section unless there are special circumstances that warrant the police.
Lost license plates should go directly to the hot desk.
Start with the 008th District first.
--I agree that 008 is way too big and should be divided.
The realignment should move more officers over there. I know there are a lot of hard workers over there. There is no back-up in 008 because every car is down on some nonsense. 008 is always in a backlog. The PO's in 008 do try hard to stay on their beat, but it rarely happens because they get pulled away constantly.
The 2nd, 12th & 21st districts haven't been downsized. In the past they needed the personnel there because there were a lot of projects that housed a gazillion people. Those projects are mostly gone now so there's no need for all of those officers. The districts that have high residency of homes should be the ones with the most personnel.
Downsize all these specialized units and put the personnel back in the beat cars. The presence of police does help so when you have free reign to roam citywide or through the area, you're not helping any.
WILLIAM KUSHNER (BERWYN POLICE CHIEF) FOR SUPT. GREAT BOSS AND A STAND UP PERSON .
PS I HAVE RELATIVES THAT LIVE IN BERWYN AND THINK THE POLICE DO A GREAT JOB.
They never eliminate exempt spots. Perhaps you should rethink that one.
The city should be broken up into three districts.
Black District
Hispanic District
All Others District
Each District has the appropriate superintendent and the appropriate officers to enforce law in a manner that conforms to each district's "culture." People in the city can sign up for police service from their District of choice.
close 3 stations
no more response to baby mama drama or my child won't go to school
let board of ed hire school security
everyday you have 5 cars and a wagon at schools for dismissal
never an arrest , just typical bs
no police presence in the southwest & northwest side of city
tell citizens to start calling for every suspicious vehicle , person, disturbance , parking violation
good luck Mr. Superintendent
don't be bullied by the aldercreatures , suggest reducing the number of alderman to 20 ,
you're a good man consider a run for Mayor
John Harris pleads guilty will cooperate with the feds
will he tell all about the mayor
and clout , merit promotion system
in the cpd
Anonymous said...
UUUMMMM WTF? Close TWO Dists? WHY? How about something as simple as HIRING MORE FUCKING POLICE!=============
SCC makes sense, because in reality, were short almost 2,000 cops from 20 years ago. Daley isn't going to hire like that ever again, so 1,000 new hires and 600 from two closed districts almost makes up the gap, it eliminates at least a few exempt spots and allows the city to close two outdated buildings that leak money without spending on the capital improvements that two brand new stations would entail.
4/17/2009 06:03:00 AM
Closing Districts does not create more police officers!!!!
If you close a District, then it needs to be obsorbed by a adjoining District. The same amount of land and calls will need to be serviced.
The only thing you gain by closing a District is a Commander, WC's, Tact Lt's, CAP Sgts. All the PO's working the beats, tact teams, mission cars, etc in the District will still be doing those jobs in the same area but just under a different call sign. 1362 will be made into 1165. Bt 1311 would become 1217 etc.
The positions that would be doubled up and where you save manpower are inside personel who would then be shifted to inside personel in another district!
Do you think the Commander of 013 is going to be riding a bt car helping us with manpower? Do you think a Capt from 013 is? What about the Tact Lt? Fuck no.
The whole closing of Districts will be smoke and mirrors.
Fear not !!! None of mayor daley's 30 or so personal body guards will be reassigned. Thank God.
Jody should just eleminate district personell and put everyone in the strike force. Hes doing that little by little now anyway.
who cares
On behalf of DS Dugan, I can tell you now that if you are still doing "Missions" just to get a number, with no specific reason, he wants that shit to stop. He told me personally, and in my district on my watch, we don't do them anymore unless there is a very specific reason for them, very rarely.
4/17/2009 04:07:00 AM
BUT HE WON'T ISSUE AN ORDER TO OFFICALLY STOP. HIGH TIME YOU SUCKHOLES STOP THE GROUP HANDJOB YOU GIVE DUGAN ON A DAILY BASIS.
HE'S FAR FROM BEING THE DEPT'S SAVIOR. HE IS WHO HE IS. A GOLD STAR EXEMPT BEHOLDEN TO THE MAYOR & HIS MINIONS
The problem has nothing to do with realigning beats. It is no secret (except to the media and the majority of the citizens)that we are short ALOT of police.
Compound that with several areas of the city just loaded with "animals" that have the highest volume of calls (and hand-waivers) PERIOD! 90% of those calls are BULLSHIT!
Bullshit "selling", "shots fired", battery in progress" calls and the list goes on and on and on.
All this bullshit is what leads to the backlogs and unanswered 911 calls. There is nothing realigning beats can do.
The rest of the city has been suffering for YEARS with lack of police service. Areas of the city where people actually work, pay taxes and DESERVE police service and protection.
These are the areas that are seeing significant rizes in "REAL CRIME". But, these citizens are told to just suck it up and watch their neighborhood and property values go to shit, while we send all the police to deal with baby's mama drama!
There needs to be some major changes in this city and a good start would be by annexing 004 to the State of Indiana, 005 to Dolton and the maybe call in some airstrikes on 006, 007, half of 008 and half of 022. Problem solved!
First organizers dropped Chicago's South Side Irish St. Patrick's Day parade because things got out hand and now the charges against nearly two dozen revelers have been dropped.
Earlier this week the charges were dropped for unruly behavior against 21 people because 11 Chicago police officers failed to show up to court.
The police department is still trying to find out why officers didn't show and spokesman Roderick Drew says if they didn't have a good reason they'll be disciplined.
The parade was an annual event for 30 years. But the parade, which drew more than 300,000 people this year, was dangerously overcrowded and that even with a large police presence controlling the crowd was difficult.
--Associated Press
I work in an Area Two District where the beefers are calling for the distict boundries to change, what they fail to recognize is the fact that a MAJORITY of these calls are absolute BULLSHIT (my 9yr old is disrespecting me, landlord / tenent, fake gun calls to get the boys off the corner etc..)
The dependency upon the police is out of control on the south side and i'm sure the same can be said on the west side, but yet its always the polices' fault!
Momma
My fourteen and twelve yr old sons are fighting over the X-box game, what do I do?
Answer
Call the Police!
Here is my answer.
Take responsiblity, be in charge of your household and stop your dependency on the POLICE, with that said why should the taxpayers have to suffer over irresponsible parents.
To the non-police readers.
That's only one example of the foolishness the police deal with.
Have a nice day!
Everybody has been saying this for years Thats why J-Fed was brought in to take the heat for the re-districting and Daley shrugs it off as good management. Meanwhile in the background Masters and O Keefe are getting the real instructions from Shortshanks and passing it on to J-Stupid. I Guess that J-Stupid does not realize yet what a pawn and patsy he really is. Promises he cant keep, made with good intentions. Fucking Cozzi to show Daley he is on top of the CPD problems. He is reallt clueless and a fall guy. MAN UP J-Fed realize the low morale IS YOUR PROBLEM and YOUR FAULT. Resign lie you said you would do. Dont listen to those sycophants you have around you. WAke up and smell the coffee. This is not the FBI you were unprepared for the task you signed up for and you dont have time for on the job training. Call a press conference. Give up Daley with all his interference and bull shit orders and then resign and writs a book. That will cover your lost salary, hell the POs in the CPD might even buy one just to see you leave. Get out with some integrity.
Make Dugan Sup! He is the only one who knows whats going on!
Any rumors about the size of the next Sgt's class?
Close two districts?!!
Would they be northside districts?
So more coppers are working the South & West sides?
Maybe I need to bid close to home, I like my district & my co-workers but who cares about the ghetto, let it burn!
close 021 - there are no working police there anyway
On behalf of DS Dugan, I can tell you now that if you are still doing "Missions" just to get a number, with no specific reason, he wants that shit to stop. He told me personally, and in my district on my watch, we don't do them anymore unless there is a very specific reason for them, very rarely.
4/17/2009 04:07:00 AM
REALLY, THEN WHO IDEA IS IT TO DO A SST MISSION EVERY THURS/FRI/SAT...HAVING COPS STAY IN A 2 x 2 BLOCK RADIUS? THEY TIE UP TACT, WATCH, SAT, GUN TEAMS ON THESE STUPID MISSIONS...SOUNDS LIKE THE RIGHT HAND, NOT KNOWING WHAT THE LEFT HAND IS DOING....
Todd Stroger cousins resigns from top county post, about time!
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/04/stroger-cousin-resigns-from-county-post.html
I can make it to my home in 022 from 004 faster than I can get from the North End to the South End of 004... That's messed up.
I'm all for the realignment as long as the tax paying areas are factored into it. Don't make the tax payers suffer... just make the districts more manageable... and hire more officers
013 and 021 will close, bet on it, eventually, the west end of what is now 008 will become the new 021 with 012 and 014 taking over 013, with the border being Chicago ave. 011 may take the west end by Kedzie.....
I made an error in my earlier post about the 008 and high schools 55th and St. Louis is in 008 so that will be 10 high schools in one district. and when it opens it will alieviate problems at schools near by but after some time those problems will reoccur CPS should go back to strict boundries
While I agree that 008 should be split into 2 districts because of it's massive size and population, I disagree about splitting it at Pulaski. The boundary should be the railroad tracks at Knox from I-55 to Marquette Road. It makes no sense to send a car that's at 53rd and Harlem all the way to 86th and Karlov when there's a backlog and it's the only car up and available.
By dividing 008 at the RR tracks ( a natural boundary), most of the boundary on the south end would be 65th St, except for the small area between Knox and Cicero from 65th to Marquette Road. This makes more sense and it puts all of Midway into the new district. Also, there won't be any arguement as to which district will handle the inevitable shootings and killings on Pulaski.
Just don't get rid of the entertainment detail, I've only got six years on and really don't want to go back to the watch in a dump like 006.
"I understand all the Weis bashing, but what I don't understand is why Mike Masters is getting a free pass. This boy wonder, twit, is one of the major reasons this Department is going to shit. He has no knowledge of our job and yet he tells Weis what to do (courtesy of da mayor.) By the way, he is SWORN! What academy did he go through? I don't think any.. Oh, and ask the guys on the range when he qualified with the gun he was carrying on new years eve. Uh, NEVER! Mike says he wants to be sworn and Weis had no choice but to make it happen. I
wonder how many State laws were broken or circumvented to make that happen?
Today, 16 April is the 1 year anniversary of Mike's hiring. Is he on probation? Any other recruit would have been fired doing the things this idiot has done. How about the Pedestrian he hit? I hope that doesn't cost the city too much.
The Chicago Police doesn't have any part-time, reserve or "Special Police" employees, so why is this good still employed? He should be in jail.
Mike I know your reading this. Are you sweating?
Signed, the Bug In The Office!"
Here's a guy who went to Harvard law school and comes to the city to work with the biggest bunch of thieves to work in government. What is wrong with this fool? Wasn't he the mayor's boy during the HDO scandal years? What is he currently hiding? I hear Ray Ray now drives him around and holds his guns. Jfed doesn't take a crap without Master giving the OK. If you question any decision that comes via the AMFN, chances are Masters is behind it. Full of ideas, most of them wrong. At least Ray Ray will make lt out of this mess. He'll fit right in with the rest of the incompetence.
On behalf of DS Dugan, I can tell you now that if you are still doing "Missions" just to get a number, with no specific reason, he wants that shit to stop. He told me personally, and in my district on my watch, we don't do them anymore unless there is a very specific reason for them, very rarely.
4/17/2009 04:07:00 AM
Oh, we do a mission every weekend night. I just pull a event number and then hide. I always volunteer for those missions, they are a complete joke. I let my GPS and the in car camera find the criminals for me these days. Can I have an event number for wiping my ass??? You got to love area 2.
SCC makes sense, because in reality, were short almost 2,000 cops from 20 years ago. Daley isn't going to hire like that ever again, so 1,000 new hires and 600 from two closed districts almost makes up the gap, it eliminates at least a few exempt spots and allows the city to close two outdated buildings that leak money without spending on the capital improvements that two brand new stations would entail.
4/17/2009 06:03:00 AM
Everyone was talking about "Enabling" the drunks on the job... isn’t this in the lines of "enabling “the corruption? Why close two districts? Why close any? The Department is budgeted for 13,500, well, how about this novel idea; lets get 13,500 sworn! As far as the bullshit about eliminating a few exempt spots. Do ya really think that’s going to happen? Seriously? Commander Smith, of the 026th Dist will be re assigned to some bullshit spot that someone (Supt, Alderscum, Mayor's orifice, or the orifice Mayor) will magically create! Don’t you think that this is just more smoke and mirrors, diverting us from the real problem? MANPOWER?
Look into the budget that was put in place during the HILLIARD regime for the new construction of Police and Fire stations. Where did that money go? Were ALL of those new stations built? You might find that interesting.
If City Hall wants less Police, JUST COME OUT AND SAY IT! Don’t piss on our legs and tell us its raining! HOWEVER, the budget should reflect accordingly! The Department has been saying & thinking “do more with less” before Mauer said it in the 001st Dist roll call room after the TABD Protest. Address the MANPOWER issue first, then lets talk about the re-alignment of beats and districts. Then, perhaps, we can discuss why we still need 50 wards, and 50 alderscum!
As far as the calls into and out of OEMC, that’s another story. Get some QUALIFIED dispatchers, and call takers. Lets not bullshit each other, we all know we have some good dispatchers and call takers and some are complete HORSESHIT! Per G.O., EVERY call has to be dispatched. Anyone think we can eliminate at least 20% of the bullshit at the phone? “Selling” calls coming from Anonymous without a description, “In progress” calls being called in from 30 blocks away… That shit can be stopped right at the call taker! “Auto accident, sir/ma’am, are the cars drivable? Oh, they are, well, then EXCHANGE INFO AND DRIVE YOUR HAPPY ASS TO A FUCKING STATION! And have a good day.” Some of us still are tied to a radio; I think we would know how to solve that problem.
Like I said, let’s address the MANPOWER issue first, and then let the Budget reflect the manpower. Afterwards we can look into re-aligning the Beats, Districts, Wards, Aldermen all we want. However, if anyone feels different, if you don’t think it just more of the old smoke and mirrors game, by all means… please let me know.
if the beats are re-aligned, you know damn well that beat 2211 (which is already to big) will suffer. and no fault of the guys that work 2211, they are never on the beat--they're called over east or they're sitting on 116th and church baby sitting the gangbanger's block. (its a 24/7 detail). please call our useless alderman ginger rugai and tell her not to let the 10 sector of 022 suffer because of the beat realignment
It all comes down to money. Close a station, save some money. This doesn't meen more Officers on the street, it meens less. Less backup for you on the street and slower response and less help for the taxpayer when he neeeds it.
It isn't getting better for the average good citizen, it's getting worse. Look at 016, less manpower for your money. When there were Police Officers patrolling, things were quiet. Now, take away your Officers. What do you think is going to happen?
The powers that be have already taken away a great deal of our numbers. It will get worse. These 10 hour day schedules are another way to whittle us down. Keep whining about the ex-Fed. He is the least of our problems. Look at the man behind it all. Time for a change.
008 could be a great district like the old days if changed around. Central park west should be 008. archer to marquette.
008 used to be a retirement district. What happened?
Just sent Mobile Pet Force down there
I handle two jobs this week of Daddy not picking me up from the united center , and I need to be at the grey hound station in 15minutes . Are we the police or a cab service?
4/17/2009 01:09:00 AM
Your not a taxi. Take him to the DISTRICT station have him call mama to come get him. Then curfew him when she takes too long.
Dont fall for that trick or theyll use it everytime.
ts suprising to hear that msf is hangin out on the west end but thanks for responding and grabbing the bad guys because there is still alot of us that live in that neighborhood... keep it up guys, glad to see a unit helpin the tax payers and not just in the ghetto.
4/17/2009 02:41:00 AM
Whats so suprising? The substation for TRU and MSF is at Portillos.
First item on the table has to be a real number of how many swore police officers there are on the CPD ?
Second item on the table has to be how many sworn officers is the city budgeted for ?
If we need more officers, and Daley does not what to dip into the mass amount of funds he has stacked up.
Yes he has the money. TCF's Lease of the Skyway, Lease of the parking meters.
Then what's wrong with hiring sworn officers on their days off to man the beat cars, for time and a half. Yes they will have to answer call, write tickets etc.
Be the real "Full Service" Police, not the "Special Unit" Police.
What say all you second city blogers ?
PS: The march around city hall was cute, but a total waste of time.
Divert some calls?ya to 311,have some of the medical abusers over there take some of this bullshit we get,have the moron calltaker ask if the cars are driveable to drive them in or tell them and this is fact,you have 10 days to make an accident report in the state of Illinois with the exception of injuries,dog running loose,call animal control,we will get there and tell the zone to call animal control,WTF,battery reports at the hospital,have the moron calltaker ask a couple of questions,no weapon used and its simple battery and offender is long gone,tell them when you done go into closest police station for a report,parkers,if someones life isent at stake put them on the beat cars pdt and dont hold them down or hold them until the last hr of the tour so the po's can spend the last hr attempting to chill and write a parker or 2 or have the green vested meter maids do something,Mr. Anonymous,we all know he is famous in this city,the moron calltakers should be trained different when it comes to him,ask more and different questions when the job is a priority 1 job and tell them if you don't give me more information we will not dispatch your call,I could go on and on we all know that,its broke,we will ever get it fixed?
j-fed can't and won't,daley is more worried about 2016 than our contract,hiring more police and the safety and well being of the citizens of this city,fuck j-fed,fuck daley and fuck the media,just do your job and end your shift alive,be safe
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Re-prioritize the call system first. Then hire 1,000 cops. Then close two districts while realigning everything. Problem solved."
Sorry... Fire 1/2 the Aldercreatures and use the $$ for PO-lice and POtholes!
Even though we are short of manpower, at roll call the white shirts want us to get an event number for curfew missions, false trp missions, anti-violence missions, etc.... What a sad joke! So this is the department's idea of policing? Get an event number? God forbid that there is a real emergency and someone does need our help for a "life and limb type of situation".
Maybe the alderman in the south and west sides should ask their own citizens NOT to make bullshit 911 calls; "my boyfriend is beating me and he has a gun", "there are twenty people outside fighting with guns, bats, knives, ninja stars, etc...", or my favorite, they call the police and then act like there is a struggle and then hang up. A call back doesn't yield any results.
This type of bullshit happens day in and day out. These irresponsible people could care less that 911 is for an EMERGENCY. They will just make up "a man with a gun" so police arrive there faster. I am getting sick and tired of this shit!
reverse seniority me ( I have 10 years--not a KMA but not quite hair gel) to one of these shit "hoods" and you will get squat! I will ride calls, take an hour and a half on paper assignments, and you (bosses) CANT DO SHIT ABOUT IT!!! I enjoy midnights so what will you have to hold over my head??? Fuck you... I spent 8 years in 003 and bid out 2 years ago...You send me back because Ike Carothers is mad??? Fuck you! You want to talk about de-policing...I will be the poster child for de-policing! And what about where I live? Less police? Are districts like 022, 008, 016 going to be punished simply because the residents know how to get along? Screw that... You want to solve the problem/?? HIRE MORE FUCKING COPS!!!
Ahhh yes let the fun begin. It's gonna be a hot long summer. Buckle up, shut up, and hold on:
5 wounded in flurry of shootings
April 17, 2009 4:22 PM |
Five people were wounded in three separate shootings within minutes across the city this afternoon on one of the warmer days of the year.
Police had few details on the shootings, which all occurred in a 15 minute span after 3 p.m.
How much does the city invest in training a police officer?
How much does the city through away when they unjustly fire a PO?
How many years does it take to become an experienced street savy copper?
Even is the city began a mass hiring today, they will not have an experienced and properly manned department for the 2016 Olympics.
"fire doesnt need a babysitter every time theres an ambulance call".
ESPECIALLY WHEN IT INVOLVES A FUCKED UP DRUNKIN ALDERMAN.....OHHH BUT LETS GO AFTER THE OFF DUTY COPPER HAVING A FEW AT A BAR OR IN HIS YARD.
AS ALWAYS 2 SETS OF RULES.
Just a civilian, but I was uncomfortably close to the corner where the July 3rd shootings happened last summer. Plenty of cops were at the corner when the shots rang out so imagine my surprise the next a.m. when I saw on the news when it was all put on the police and the aldermen were all up in arms. Complete bullshit. I called my alderman (Solis) to tell him what I saw that night, emailed the reporters who "covered" the story to no avail, of course. Reporters and politicians get to go home after high-profile shootings, but you guys don't (thank god as someone who lives in Pilsen.)
Anyway, two things I learned that night--never run with the crowd when shots are fired, and that there's a population of kids who think it's HILARIOUS when they escape bullets. Seriously, they were doubled over with laughter. Wowza. A bit of the liberal in me died that night.
Anyway good luck with all this and stay safe this summer. And excellent blog btw!
As a p.o. who has worked in high and low crime districts, I support beat reallignment. Area 3 has some beats that get no calls for service for an entire tour. Areas 5, 1, and 2 have out of control beats that need to be made smaller. This change is long overdue.
Out of those 12,000 calls
11,997 were baby momma purple pop drama.
ooooooooooooo snap!
Start with the 008th District first. Split it at Pulaski so the HARD WORKING, LAW ABIDING, HIGH TAX PAYING citizens can finally get the True Police service they deserve. The Guys working the west-end can only do so much after being continually dragged to the east and far east end of the 008 whilst burglaries, robberies, tagging and gang related incidents are on the rise out west only to be stacked in the waiting. 811 & 812's beat is the size of the 007th district and we are LUCKY if there are 2 cars up in that area that size....WHAT A JOKE. Its more important to dispatch all the nonsense out east and hold every car down on it and all the while the west end gets short changed......time after time after time. Another area is Saint Bede, just look at what has happened there in the past 3yrs! Talk about sad.
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ARE U FRIKIN HIGH? Thee are 0 hard working people east of Kostner these days. Split 008 at Cicero the farthest. PULASKI U MUST BE ON CRACK!
We get the least police protection, but the most meter maids. Daley is a crocked as sell-out to the "Reverends" and La Raza terrorists.
People getting shot all over Area 2 and its not even night time yet. Let the "summer of blood" begin!!!
Off Topic: Is it true that Janet Napolitano is Janet Reno's son?
Kinda O.T. ****
Dear MSF,
When recovering a stolen with bad guys in it and the owner is on the scene you should return the vehicle to the owner. Take the bad guys and the victim/owner to the station. DONT leave the car there so the other bad guys fire bomb the vehicle. Plus dont try to pass the ARSON job off to the distrcit car.
Just some simple and free advise.
Yours truly,
Cop with some smarts.
off topic, but to the coppers in 008 and mobile strike force, thanks for all of the help in the midway neighborhood(64/long) when it went up for grabs and a 10-1 was called by an off duty who was in serious trouble. from what i heard m.s.f. responded and caught all of the bad guys and did a great job. its suprising to hear that msf is hangin out on the west end but thanks for responding and grabbing the bad guys because there is still alot of us that live in that neighborhood... keep it up guys, glad to see a unit helpin the tax payers and not just in the ghetto.
You're absolutely right about the great response for the off-duty P.O. but it was the first watch cars, the 806 team, and Area One midnight gang team that did all of the work. MSF had nothing to do with the arrest. Most of the midnight 10 sector cars are officers that live on the west end and care about the neighborhood. If it wasn't for them things would be far worse. Thanks for the hard work!
whats the diffence between an anti violence mission and routine patrol? god does that sound stupid, then again look who we work for.
"After you create a "Nanny state" it is very hard to move away from it.
4/17/2009 06:42:00 AM"
Arm all the adults and let the children see what a real spanking feels like.
Our call response policies and report taking are all the work of mental midget Daley. He uses the police to kiss the asses of certain voting blocks who call with constant bullshit nonsense, due to their laziness and stupidity, and the taxpayers then have to pay, both with wasted tax dollars, and wasted manpower that should be policeing their neighborhoods that they, the taxpaying citizens, are entitled to as they constantly get short-changed in proper police protection, by the greedy Daley Cabal. The people who don't call the police unless it really is a problem, are the ones who get the LEAST police service, thanks to Daley & his band of dimwits. Meanwhile, the real cops on the street get run ragged, and Daley, AND the chicken-shit FLOP do NOTHING about it.
Great Dugan!
Leave it to an Irishman to figure out what we all knew for decades now.... Have another potatoe Dugan,
Dan Quayle
4/17/2009 12:46:00 AM
Split it at Cicero, it's all Mexican Gang bangin Ghetto in between Pulaski and Cicero, that neighborhood is doomed to the illegals.
4/17/2009 01:09:00 AM
Leave Them, I do, I give rides to no one. Fuck them.
Why not send ALL PPO's to hellhole districts for their first year and a half?
Also, please shrink Area 2 and make Area 3 larger. Area 3 Dicks do only about 1/10th of what A2 Dets. are expected to do on a daily basis, must be nice. Same pay for far less work.
008 still IS a retirement District, compared to Area 2 Districts, except 022, another retirement home and clout-kid clubhouse..
Anonymous said...
reverse seniority me ( I have 10 years--not a KMA but not quite hair gel) to one of these shit "hoods" and you will get squat! . . .
4/17/2009 04:42:00 PM
Based on what you've said, I'm guessing you already don't do squat, office!
You are indeed the Anti-Christ.
Anonymous said...
Met a guy last week, 30 years old, who sired 10 children. When asked, he could remember only 4 of their names. Better than that though, he could only recall 3 of his 7 baby mamas names. CPS angels are the angels of death they are for good reason.
4/17/2009 04:29:00 AM
Fuck Hire 1000 cops.
Hire 5,000....and train us right.
Then FIre anyone that is Sgt or Higher and that includes the fucking city hall
If our beats are increased in size, and we get even less police service, we need to start leaving our "fast" districts and protect our own areas.
How about build more jails, (no weights-no cable and three bologna sandwiches a day) so all the pieces of SHIT gang-bangers, drug dealers and savages have a place to stay for a while. Also get rid off all the” fuckin” liberal Lawyers, Judges and worthless Alderman whom most of the time stand behind these criminals and let Police attack other crimes occurred in their districts.
i work in 008 and can tell u the west end will get worse if we don't start either, getting more police, like rapid response cars, [nonexistent] or getting police to come work where they live, the ghetto is more important than where your family lives? were never going to get more police out of daley or get the districts realigned, nobody has the balls to step up.
Anonymous said...
ts suprising to hear that msf is hangin out on the west end but thanks for responding and grabbing the bad guys because there is still alot of us that live in that neighborhood... keep it up guys, glad to see a unit helpin the tax payers and not just in the ghetto.
4/17/2009 02:41:00 AM
Whats so suprising? The substation for TRU and MSF is at Portillos.
4/17/2009 03:46:00 PM
That is ok with me stay out this way guys, better food and pretty women! Fuck that east side shithole nothing but a bunch of animals!
Say "bye bye"
Doty's darling Prairie Dogs !!!!
021st District RIP
?????- 2009
4/17/2009 07:36:00 AM
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No biggie.... a certain community policing officer is n route to being metir sgt b/c of free mlb gifts this po dools out to the right bosses. Merit - my ass!
Even is the city began a mass hiring today, they will not have an experienced and properly manned department for the 2016 Olympics.
4/17/2009 04:52:00 PM
Your wish is granted. There are 42 recruits in the academy and will graduate around august. Relax, they have a plan with those 42 recruits. The May class was cancelled and the next recruit class will be August. Weiss did state that districts are at full strength.
There needs to be some major changes in this city and a good start would be by annexing 004 to the State of Indiana, 005 to Dolton and the maybe call in some airstrikes on 006, 007, half of 008 and half of 022. Problem solved!
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Indiana doesn't want 004 and Dolton is already as bad as 005. I like the part about the airstrikes though.
from fop website:
The start of the CHA Overtime Initiative South has been postponed. All details regarding this change and procedures that our members need to follow in order to obtain new dates are listed in the following AFMN Message.
A bit of the liberal in me died that night.
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Do us all a favor and walk in front of a train...that oughta kill any remaining "liberal" that occupies your being.
Off topic...
Does anyone know how long it takes for the FOID card?
As in district like 005, 004, 008 and 022, you can realign the beats all you want. But when all hell is braeking loose and all the cars are tied up, what the fuck is the difference. You can align the beats by calls for service, but when every car is fighting with the high school mopes at dismissal, 2-3 bonafide shootings or homocides occur at the same time, the cars are out of service. The only logical solution is hire more cops, many more, and weed out the bullshit 911 calls. My son or daughter won't go to school, call the police. What the fuck you want us to do.
i recently ran the p.o. title code on clear... their are only bout 9800 officers w/that code.... 13,500-9800=3700 missing :( how sad...
The politicos and non criminal citizens also dont realize that many calls for police service are just BS calls made by criminals trying to divert the police from specific areas so they can commit a crime. While we are chasing the man with a gun call on one side of the district, the real man with the gun is shooting someone on the other side.
to all of you, and i apologize for using all small letters and bad grammar as well as bad punctuation in advance...but this needs to be out there - you can bitch all you want, but the man behind the curtain wants to bust our neighborhoods...we are expected to (as tax-paying citizens) take residence in one of these highly overpriced condo buildings (built by WALSH - McHUGH - KENNY get the point?) and give up our neighborhoods in response to the actions of the midget mad genious, all because we are amongst a small group who continues to give "a$%hole"/ DALEY, a revenue stream. in the little devious twit/fu6k's plan, the animal is expected to move to the outskirts and we, as the once-again described taxpaying, good sports that we are, have taken up the role of the one who now judges our families value (as opposed to leaving for 'greener not optionable 'sub-urban' pastures'), "do we leave for early retirement? Can we leave early?...is the beast that has been cordoned off is now unleashed in our one-time sanctimonious neighborhoods, what we once thought of as being good, solid homes, big garages, yards, big enough for the kids to keep busy in, just got a lot smaller recently; by the mayo#<; he expects us to "tuff it up" and try his (and maggies/maggots) new city, one in which we are entirely to succomb to an illiterate band of thieving f#^cks that we hate - but some (misguided PO's) try to kiss up to...IT IS TIME FOR - C H A N G E right here in OUR city, you non-police, and boot-licking coppers - we have to band together and "actually 'win one for the Good Guys... (I am in...)...
Area 3 Dicks do only about 1/10th of what A2 Dets. are expected to do on a daily basis, must be nice. Same pay for far less work.
4/17/2009 08:22:00 PM
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Uh, not since A/3 picked up the first district and all the 3100 jobs. Check your facts before posting. Times have changed and you should keep up.
Anonymous said...
Off Topic: Is it true that Janet Napolitano is Janet Reno's son?
4/17/2009 07:21:00 PM
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Yes, Janet Reno is her dad.
008 still IS a retirement District, compared to Area 2 Districts, except 022, another retirement home and clout-kid clubhouse..
4/17/2009 08:23:00 PM
Are you nuts? Really, are you? GFY you idiot.
The Village of Oak Park is considering annexing the area of Chicago's West Side between its Roosevelt Rd. (south) and North Ave. (north) borders east to Kedzie Avenue for more "cultural diversity"--a noble cause.
To 11:51PM
FOID Cards are running about 3-6 months behind.
This started last year when the State contracted part of the process out to some firm in Elmhurst.
Call the State Police and explain that you are the Police and ask to see if it can be expidited.
That's what I did and it still took two weeks after the call to get the card.
Make the whole city one beat and have it where any one can go anywhere and answer any call. There are only a few beat officers left so what difference does it make.
i recently ran the p.o. title code on clear... their are only bout 9800 officers w/that code.... 13,500-9800=3700 missing :( how sad...
4/18/2009 12:02:00 AM
13,500...That number represents ALL SWORN members. That’s 1- Superintendent, 3 Assistant Superintendents….Deputies,… Commanders… Lt’s Sgts… Det’s…P/O’s… Not 13,500 PATROLMAN!
And if you believe the CLEAR system is telling you the truth, I’ve got some ocean front property in Kansas to sell you. You want a more accurate number, find out how many uniform or duty avail. checks are cut from the comptrollers office.
Anonymous said...
008 still IS a retirement District, compared to Area 2 Districts, except 022, another retirement home and clout-kid clubhouse..
4/17/2009 08:23:00 PM
............................wrong 008 pays mote taxes then all area 2
i recently ran the p.o. title code on clear... their are only bout 9800 officers w/that code.... 13,500-9800=3700 missing :( how sad...
4/18/2009 12:02:00 AM
3700 missing?
Umm....I don't even know where to start.
Over 1000 Detectives
Over 1000 Sergeants
Over 300 Lieutenants
Captains, Exempts, Mounted Unit, E.T.'s, Crime Lab, Canine, Marine Unit, 50 other B.S title codes, etc, etc. None of which are Title Code 9161. That covers about 3,000 of your missing. Not that bright are you? :( how sad...
close 021 - there are no working police there anyway
4/17/2009 12:50:00 PM
let me guess you didn't make the bid there, asswipe!
What's all this bull about no working police in 021??? Excuse me, but I will have you know I complete 2-3 Sodukos every night. So there!
off topic, but to the coppers in 008 and mobile strike force, thanks for all of the help in the midway neighborhood(64/long) when it went up for grabs and a 10-1 was called by an off duty who was in serious trouble. from what i heard m.s.f. responded and caught all of the bad guys and did a great job. its suprising to hear that msf is hangin out on the west end but thanks for responding and grabbing the bad guys because there is still alot of us that live in that neighborhood... keep it up guys, glad to see a unit helpin the tax payers and not just in the ghetto.
4/17/2009 02:41:00 AM
more info my old block what happened
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bangers started fuc*ing with an off duty p.o walking his dog after work. they started throwing bottles at him and he was lucky enough to have his pepper spray when one started hitting him. bad guy got sprayed, 10-1 called everyone and thier mother responded...however this is where the above story changes... i dont remember seeing any msf guys there...im not saying this as fact but what i do know as fact is the 806 team got all 5 or six offenders into custody after yard searches. good response by midnights too and the police helicopter...which sad to say, wasnt much help considering they said all the yards were clear and one minute later bad guys were taken into custody in one of the "cleared" yards
" i recently ran the p.o. title code on clear... their are only bout 9800 officers w/that code.... 13,500-9800=3700 missing :( how sad... 4/18/2009 12:02:00 AM"
Apparently you haven't heard of detectives, sergeants, lieutenants, ETs, or my personal favorite: "P.O. per arbitration award." A 9155 I believe? Sorry to break this to you- but the 13.5 number is fairly accurate for overalll sworn. NOW WHERE THEY ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE OTHER HAND...
WILLIAM KUSHNER (BERWYN POLICE CHIEF) FOR SUPT. GREAT BOSS AND A STAND UP PERSON .
PS I HAVE RELATIVES THAT LIVE IN BERWYN AND THINK THE POLICE DO
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who's that mrs kushner and bill jr.?
i recently ran the p.o. title code on clear... their are only bout 9800 officers w/that code.... 13,500-9800=3700 missing :( how sad...
4/18/2009 12:02:00 AM
If thats the case then we are not all that short. Figure roughly 1200 Sgts, 900 dicks, 250 Lts & 75Capts. That leaves about 1300 short
but then you have maybe 100 exempts
plus all the other title codes like FTO, ET, Canine,etc etc which will fill a good portion of whats left.
The problem is we have a bunch on medical, at call back and then the districts have been stripped to form all sorts of special units that can be moved around the city so that we have unofficial manpower realighnment without the political problem of really realining the districts and beats.
Can 18 annex what's left of the greens? Then we can change our unit designator from 'near north' to 'heaven'...
Ike Caruthers bout to go down. A little birdy told me.
The 10 sector guys of 008th. are
# 1 in my book.
You make the effort to patrol the tax payers hood. The people here love you guys & girls and kick anyones ass you want on 0811.
If their daddy is the police and they fuck up..I say fuck em.
The beef will go no where. You backs are covered !!!!!!!!
I'm getting gas and the fucking dickspatcher gives me a domestic and I can't even hit the enroute botton because the bitch has me there already. They gave the job out and they are covered. Fucking 6sick district!!!!!!!!!
When I worked in 021, men were men and women were glad that we were.
Projects ran almost continuously from 30th St. to Cullerton. Projects on Cottage Grove, Ellis, and Lake Park Avenue.
The area around 44th and Greenwood was all shit.
We were manly, burly men. We drank until there was blood in our stool.
I will now just climb back on my dinosauer and ride away.
Anonymous said...
In 004 Dugan...you can prioritize calls how ever you want. There is still no one to send. Please think before you speak. You obviously do not understand. 004 is way too big. It needs to be smaller or the manpower has to be given a boost. I don't think it's right that the outside units come in here (like TRU) and do not have to answer a radio assignment when all cars are down and long backlogged. What makes them so ELITE? I await your answer Dep.
4/17/2009 07:06:00 AM
I agree but let me add that our arrests are down because they have us concentrating on one small area and TRU has already locked up all the fucked up people for the night. Also since we are always in RAP and we have very few rapids, who is going to lock them up? We are too busy running from call to call!
Based on what you've said, I'm guessing you already don't do squat, office!
4/17/2009 08:54:00 PM
guessing by YOUR response you are a two year wonder hair-gel who is out to solve all the worldly problems despite how we are collectively getting fucked over!!! I LOVE how when one stands up for something and gives a big FUCK YOU to the city, it is the hair-gel who keeps coming on here claiming "you must have been a dog and are using this as an excuse...blah blah blah..." Just like I can count on one hand the number of hair-gels I saw at the rally... I guess college forgot to teach you HOW NOT TO BE A PUSSY AND STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT!!! NOW GET FUCKED HAIR GEL LOSER!!!!
Who ever dreamt up SURGICAL STRIKE FORCE is a genius. Every other night practically my SGT gets on the air and asks for an event and to hold us down in a 2 block area. Within 2 minutes of us arriving, everyone else is gone and we get a free night to sit, drive around these 2 blocks and DO NOTHING. We laugh, joke around, and make fun of the calls that start out like this "UNITS IN 00X AND ON CITYWIDE". Oh the times we have. Don't get me wrong. We do bring in a contact card. He bosses, let us do what we do. No missions. Let us rome our WHOLE district.
This type of bullshit happens day in and day out. These irresponsible people could care less that 911 is for an EMERGENCY. They will just make up "a man with a gun" so police arrive there faster. I am getting sick and tired of this shit!
They pull the same shit on CFD also, claiming chest pains when all they have is a yeast infection and want free meds from the ER. There are also plenty of times they call 911 from the ER because they are not getting treated fast enough and want a ride to a different hospital or when they are done and want a ride home.
There is one common factor in all the BS CPD and CFD calls.
Anonymous said...
Daley is not going to hire any new Officers until the pension REFORM committee presents it's recomendations to his highness.
All NEW officers will be a 401k and the rest of us are on our own until the pension money runs out oe is stolen! Daley has not paid the fund in years to what he is supposed to pay annually and the Director will not push the issue since he is appointed by his highness!
Disability Officers are supposed to be paid by the city but ours are paid by our fund, When asked to file a suit regarding this situation both Hauser and the Director refused to answer or be part of a suit!
So as to hiring any new Officers, MAYBE not this year or until this report comes out! Daley can then take this money for his precious OLYMPICS!
4/17/2009 08:47:00 AM
There are just so many inaccuracies in this post one hardly knows where to begin. The city does make its required contributions. Read the Pension Fund annual report it is all in there. It is the fund that pays disability payments. The city is required to continue making pension contributions. Read the law. It is in the ILCS. But of course the funds annual report and the ILCS are lying to everyone. Grow up.
Sorry, but annexing means when one city "takes" part of another area over...not when one city gives up a part of their city they don't want. Nice try.
Captains, Exempts, Mounted Unit, E.T.'s, Crime Lab, Canine, Marine Unit, 50 other B.S title codes, etc, etc. None of which are Title Code 9161. That covers about 3,000 of your missing. Not that bright are you? :( how sad...
4/18/2009 01:37:00 AM
If you really believe this, then you haven't been out to a District lately. One third or more cars that were manned a few years ago are down! SOS is gone, so don't give me the TRU MSF is the reason. Call back and the Medical? I Don't think so.
Where is the money going that isn't being paid out in salaries? The real reason they are down.
You are either a shill for the mayor or you're not paying attention. Now that's really sad.
4/18/2009 12:45:00 AM
Thank you
To 4/17/2009 05:06:00 PM
Thanks for your efforts
As in district like 005, 004, 008 and 022, you can realign the beats all you want. But when all hell is braeking loose and all the cars are tied up, what the fuck is the difference. You can align the beats by calls for service, but when every car is fighting with the high school mopes at dismissal, 2-3 bonafide shootings or homocides occur at the same time, the cars are out of service. The only logical solution is hire more cops, many more, and weed out the bullshit 911 calls. My son or daughter won't go to school, call the police. What the fuck you want us to do
--This is true. You very rarely see 2 cars on a job in 008. If you call for help, they will be there, but a regular call gets you no back up because NO cars available. Sad to say that you have to wait for shit to hit the fan FIRST before you can get back up.
whats happening in * now will be happening in 22 in a couple of years.
Please leave the 019th and the 020th Districts alone. If I wanted to see or work with shitheads, I would bid for 011 or 015. Sorry, but if people cant control thier kids that shoot and sell drugs, thats thier fucking problem. Putting more police or making more beats wont solve those problems.
Anonymous said...
008 used to be a retirement district. What happened?
4/17/2009 03:02:00 PM
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Well what happend is YOU LIVE ON THE SOUTHSIDE!!
That should explain it all!
Northside
For a "world class" 911 system, you'd think the underlying policy of handling calls would be, at the very least, a little more logical with regard to manpower.
Former LAPD Chief Bill Gates quoted in his book "Chief" Chicago is the only Police Department that he knows of that sends a uniformed response to 95% of it's 911 Calls. Daley's prevailing thought has always been if the called the Police, no matter how arcane or ridiculous send the Police.
It's 2009 & we STILL Handwrite reports? That sums up this state of the art Department.
4/17/2009 12:51:00 AM
I wonder what the other Mayor's think of Daley at their conventions?
Im a cop that lives on west side of 008. Recently had an attempt burglary to my house. My son came home from school and found back door knob broke off and patio door window shattered. also garage lock broken off. My neighbor heard the noise and the 2 male hispanics took off. I was called at work and then I called 911. Told them Im on duty cop heading home that someone was breaking into my house. I t took the dispatcher 43 minutes to even dispatch the job of a burglary in progress to a cops house.(back log or not dispatcher could have at least put the call on the air). It finally came out and only took the 1 responding car about 2 minutes to get there. I do understand the backlog issue but I got the call, drove home from work and still waited at the house for 20 more minutes for troops to arrive. No fault of the 008 dist beat cops, Im here to thank you for coming once called in a timely manner. Don't know if you read the blog but I also want to thank Bt. 812 2nd watch (Name K.C. not sure of spelling) for keeping an eye on my house for the following week. My family and neighbors did notice you out there stopping and questioning anyone near my house(even my son was stopped). Your work is much appreciated on the west end of 008. Keep up the good work. Signed a much appreciative cop
"4/18/2009 02:21:00 AM"
There's always going to be a few pussies willing to believe in the tooth fairy.
'...not all that short.'????
Fucking dickhead.
The 10 sector guys of 008th. are
# 1 in my book.
You make the effort to patrol the tax payers hood. The people here love you guys & girls and kick anyones ass you want on 0811.
If their daddy is the police and they fuck up..I say fuck em.
The beef will go no where. You backs are covered !!!!!!!!
4/18/2009 02:50:00 AM
Your kidding right?
They are hardly every on the west end always sent to 20 sector
More bangers more taggers and 812 just likes to mess with coppers.
i recently ran the p.o. title code on clear... their are only bout 9800 officers w/that code.... 13,500-9800=3700 missing :( how sad...
4/18/2009 12:02:00 AM
If thats the case then we are not all that short. Figure roughly 1200 Sgts, 900 dicks, 250 Lts & 75Capts. That leaves about 1300 short
but then you have maybe 100 exempts
plus all the other title codes like FTO, ET, Canine,etc etc which will fill a good portion of whats left.
The problem is we have a bunch on medical, at call back and then the districts have been stripped to form all sorts of special units that can be moved around the city so that we have unofficial manpower realighnment without the political problem of really realining the districts and beats.
4/18/2009 02:21:00 AM
Check out the number of checks cut on payroll days. The number is under 10,000. Freedom of Information Act can be used to find this information out, instead of using it to look into divorces of people running for elected office.
Anonymous said...
Off topic...
Does anyone know how long it takes for the FOID card?
4/17/2009 11:51:00 PM
Applied for mine in March and got it in a little over 2 weeks---without a phone call.
Also, please shrink Area 2 and make Area 3 larger. Area 3 Dicks do only about 1/10th of what A2 Dets. are expected to do on a daily basis, must be nice. Same pay for far less work.
Seriously, why work when you can sit around and drink lattes. How many homicides has Area 3 cleared this year; one double. How many homicides has Area 3 had this year; one double. Boy those homicide detectives really work in Area 3.
004 is already called "West Hammond"!
p.s. Hammond has more units up on ANY day than 004.
p.p.s. Even little Whiting (surrounded by Hammond) has at least 3units up 24/7, and their town is smaller than 1 beat in 004.
If you need police, call N/W Indiana!
RE FOID
sent my check in the month of December, they cashed it, the 9th or 10th.....still haven't gotten the new card yet, sent a couple of follow up e mails with no response. just FYI 4 months and waiting
Anonymous said...
Ike Caruthers bout to go down. A little birdy told me.
4/18/2009 02:47:00 AM
Hope so that fat sleepy assed punk needs to go to club fed along with the other 49+daley-stroger-madigan criminal enterprise!
IF THEY REALIGN ANYTHING THEY SHOULD REALIGN THE CITY COUNCIL AND CUT THE NUMBER OF ALDERMEN INHALF.NOW THAT WOULD SAVE THE CITY MILLIONS.
13,500...That number represents ALL SWORN members. That’s 1- Superintendent, 3 Assistant Superintendents….Deputies,… Commanders… Lt’s Sgts… Det’s…P/O’s… Not 13,500 PATROLMAN!
And if you believe the CLEAR system is telling you the truth, I’ve got some ocean front property in Kansas to sell you. You want a more accurate number, find out how many uniform or duty avail. checks are cut from the comptrollers office.
Conspiracy theory abounds! Do you really think that if the department was adding people to I-Clear that it could be done without anyone finding out and letting the media know? They would have to be assigned to a unit and people in the unit would figure it out. Someone who does input would drop a dime. No matter what is said, someone is going to challenge it and call the dept a liar. Get over it. There are about 13,000 total SWORN, bosses included. They are just not in patrol, but in all of these great units that the bosses have made up. But go on believing that everything is a lie. You can spend the rest of your life fighting, whining and crying instead of making the best of what you have. Look around. Life is a lot harder for a whole lot of people out there. Instead of getiing good at your job, you blame all your ills on j-fed, shortshanks, and anybody else you can. Get out a general order or two, learn how you do your job better and maybe you too can get out of patrol. Try getting a job in the real world. Your lazy crybaby ass would be fired in a month because everyone is out to screw you and we know you don't do shit on this job. We are tired of hearing your simple minded bullshit so go back to your comic books. It will help you maintain your Mensa membership. You do know what that is, don't you?
"But of course the funds annual report and the ILCS are lying to everyone. Grow up.
4/18/2009 09:25:00 AM"
Yes, yes they are.
Grow the fuck up.
RE:Also, please shrink Area 2 and make Area 3 larger. Area 3 Dicks do only about 1/10th of what A2 Dets. are expected to do on a daily basis, must be nice. Same pay for far less work.
Seriously, why work when you can sit around and drink lattes. How many homicides has Area 3 cleared this year; one double. How many homicides has Area 3 had this year; one double. Boy those homicide detectives really work in Area 3.
Then bid to Area 3 Bitch!!!!
Anonymous said...
Based on what you've said, I'm guessing you already don't do squat, office!
4/17/2009 08:54:00 PM
guessing by YOUR response you are a two year wonder hair-gel who is out to solve all the worldly problems despite how we are collectively getting fucked over!!! I LOVE how when one stands up for something and gives a big FUCK YOU to the city, it is the hair-gel who keeps coming on here claiming "you must have been a dog and are using this as an excuse...blah blah blah..." Just like I can count on one hand the number of hair-gels I saw at the rally... I guess college forgot to teach you HOW NOT TO BE A PUSSY AND STAND UP FOR WHAT YOU THINK IS RIGHT!!! NOW GET FUCKED HAIR GEL LOSER!!!!
4/18/2009 08:25:00 AM
Grow-up, Sherlock:
Date of Appt: 18 July 77
Class: 77-3B
Homeroom Instructor: Sgt. K. Hyatt
Check it out!
Regarding the below post,
i work in 008 and can tell u the west end will get worse if we don't start either, getting more police, like rapid response cars, [nonexistent] or getting police to come work where they live, the ghetto is more important than where your family lives? were never going to get more police out of daley or get the districts realigned, nobody has the balls to step up.
Hey Dufus, they have to have openings first before you can just show up to work in 008. Stupid ass!!!!!!
"Fire doesn't need a baby sitter every time there's a ambulance call."
...or other routine call either, automatically "riding with the fire" to watch a burning plastic trash tote get put out. If they need police, they know where the mike is...
This type of bullshit happens day in and day out. These irresponsible people could care less that 911 is for an EMERGENCY. They will just make up "a man with a gun" so police arrive there faster...
They pull the same shit on CFD also, claiming chest pains when all they have is a yeast infection and want free meds from the ER...
There is one common factor in all the BS CPD and CFD calls.
4/18/2009 09:11:00 AM
Here's another. If you call 311 on the landline as citizens are advised to for non-emergency services, the 311 call taker very, very often switches the call to 911 -- who just takes the call instead of bouncing the caller back and forth any more.
Gives you that standing-there-holding-your-dick feeling..."Well, Jeez, I tried to co-operate but they wouldn't let me."
4/18/2009 08:54:00 PM
UUUUMMMM, Mr. Super cop, it’s me, “Conspiracy Theory” Cop. Not that I feel I need to post a resume for you, but in the past 19 years, starting in the “Wood”, I have been out of patrol, and no, not to “Summer Mobil” or “Preventive Programs”. I went “’Round the clock” a few times. I own and have used a “Kel” Light. The plates on one of my work cars came back to somewhere on Normal. After studying a little, I found myself just a few out of the top 100 on a Dic’s test. Hell, I still don’t know what would have happened if I took Gang Specialist, there’s what, 3 of them left? After a few more years, and getting in studying, again, somewhere between court, spending some time watching my kids grow up and a shit load of work and fun on the Violent Crime side, I scored well enough to now be found with (Usually, but not limited to) a -20 on the top of my car.
Work? Yes, I have worked on this job. There are a TON of Cops out there that worked more than me, but I am willing to bet YOU AINT ON THAT LIST! Please, you condescending, empty holstered, little fuck, point out where in my post I was “…whining and crying instead of making the best of what you have.” Or “Instead of getiing good at your job, you blame all your ills on j-fed, shortshanks, and anybody else you can”? Or just point out simply where I was “Crying”, pointing out how “My/Our” life was any better than any one else?
As far as your comment of “Getting a job in the real world”… Well, mother fucker, since your on this blog, I’m willing to bet your not a media troll, or some 14 year old want-to-be with a couple of bucks heading towards Atlas. So I see your “Real World Experience” in the job market is doing just stellar! Oh, I’m willing to bet AMC is just busting the door to your house down. As a matter of fact, they might just be doing that now. Should we leave a post-it note on your door telling them you’re too busy for one of their colloquiums ‘cause you’re “working it” in an alley somewhere on west Madison? Or are you going to show up in your usual drag; fishnets and a phallus dangling out of your cavernous jib?
Please do us a few favors; tell your wife to get a boyfriend & a good lawyer, give her custody. Prozac, Lithium, a good shrink! Start reading comic books, the rudimentary comprehension might be good for you, less shit you can twist and miss-construe into some hate and anger filled rant. Quit, yes, drop that PAR form! No one wants to work with some delusional prick like you, then tell us, oh great master of everything, just how the good old “Real World” is treating you. Until then, try masturbating (Yourself, not others), it might just release some of that pent-up frustration that seems to plague you.
P.S. Have a nice day! :-)
Excuse me while I realign the shit out of my bowels and go take a Daley.
Start writing to Carothers!
RE:Also, please shrink Area 2 and make Area 3 larger. Area 3 Dicks do only about 1/10th of what A2 Dets. are expected to do on a daily basis, must be nice. Same pay for far less work.
Seriously, why work when you can sit around and drink lattes. How many homicides has Area 3 cleared this year; one double. How many homicides has Area 3 had this year; one double. Boy those homicide detectives really work in Area 3.
Then bid to Area 3 Bitch!!!!
They've already got enough bitches there. Besides, I won't work for a sex offender.
Have ATT route 911 calls to 311 and let them sort it out over there. Keeping the idiots from wasting POs time with Xbox calls has got to be worth something.
There is, I believe, a total of 278 Beats. Let's say that a little over one-third of those are prone to being -ahem- in radio-assignments-pending status. So the problem is approximately 100 Beats. Hire 1000 (or 800) more coppers and double the presence on these problem beats ---for example have a 722-A and a 722-B rather than expand beats that are already too big to split the problem beats. No new maps/ no additional beat meetings/ no connected firm to conduct feasibility study on what beats to create, etc. So simple even a caveman could do it.
Anonymous said...
013 and 021 will close, bet on it, eventually, the west end of what is now 008 will become the new 021 with 012 and 014 taking over 013, with the border being Chicago ave. 011 may take the west end by Kedzie.....
4/17/2009 01:23:00 PM
Quiet someone might hear you.
Anonymous said...
Say "bye bye"
Doty's darling Prairie Dogs !!!!
021st District RIP
?????- 2009
4/17/2009 07:36:00 AM
Not yet we are still kicking.
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