Wednesday, May 20, 2009

Media Challenge

The media publishes this crap, but without any frame of reference. See if you can spot the problem:
  • A man serving a life sentence for a 1990 murder testified Monday he confessed only after he was beaten for half an hour by Chicago police detectives under the command of disgraced former Cmdr. Jon Burge.

    Cortez Brown, 38, who now goes by his birth name of Victor Safforld, is seeking a new trial, arguing that his confession was coerced because he feared for his safety and that of his family.

    [...] Safforld testified Monday that while he was handcuffed to a wall in 1990, O'Brien allegedly held him while Maslanka and another detective, John Paladino, punched him in the body, slapped the side of his head and hit him with a flashlight. After about 30 minutes, he said, "I told them I would say whatever they wanted me to say, sign whatever they wanted me to sign."
So, media marvels, we have a challenge for you and any other person who feels like participating.
  • get a heavy bag (it's a boxing device) at Sportmart or Dick's or other sporting good store;
  • secure the heavy bag to a bench, but not so much that it doesn't roll around a bit;
  • get a friend to hold the bag steady, then whale the tar out of it for 30 minutes - you can use open hand, stick, phone book, whatever.
Not one person out of 100,000 is going to be able to beat a heavy bag for 30 minutes. Even if you take it in shifts, one holding the bag and one beating it, the chances of making it through 30 minutes is small.

There's a reason boxing matches are 12 three-minute rounds. And those guys are in top shape for the most part. It's pretty near impossible to beat someone, even half chained to a wall (Brown says he had to be held by another cop) to the point where he feels that the electric chair is his best option.

It reeks of implausibility.

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26 Comments:

Blogger Phil Schitz here said...

"Not one person out of 100,000 is going to be able to beat a heavy bag for 30 minutes. Even if you take it in shifts, one holding the bag and one beating it, the chances of making it through 30 minutes is small."
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SCC: You're right. Nobody can pound somebody for thirty minutes- including breaks. The average coper is lucky if he can fight for thrty seconds, let alone minutes.

There's enough idiots out there accepting this convicted murderer's word. Of course the media doesn't mention anything about the victims. Ace Reporter Phil Schitz's sources insist this is Mayor Daley's plan to infuriate the public against the police during contract time. Un-fucking believable.

The more I investigate this city, the more unbelievable shit I uncover.

5/20/2009 12:18:00 AM  
Blogger 12GA. said...

SCC,

When it comes to the taxpayers, I'll bet that "the electric chair is the best option," if we ever want to see this name-changing chameleon stop costing us an arm & a leg. (Lethal injection is another choice for Victor.)

5/20/2009 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wait till the Tobias people start coming forward.

5/20/2009 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

more lies, the media though is so stupid they eat this shit up! Investigative reporting? please! Except for JOHN KASS the media has no clue!

5/20/2009 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see you've tried this before :)

5/20/2009 06:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My first question to all of these claims are when were they first made? Did Brown raise them in 1990 or did they arise at a later date?

Next, it appears that Brown's claims are a repeat of the claims that others have made! Has he been coached by his lawyers, to use the same claims, that have been made it possible for them to receive big payouts? We all are aware that lawyers are bound by the code of ethical behaviour!

The detectives are between a rock and a hard place. If they testify then Flint Taylor will demand they be indicted for perjury based on his claims if they do not then a double murderer might go free after 17 years.

The judge should look at these claims carefully.

5/20/2009 06:47:00 AM  
Anonymous CRY WOLF said...

Now the Chicago daughter of one of the murdered black prostitutes is accusing the Milwaukee P.D. of "racism" because they "ignored" the seven serial murders of prostitutes on Milwaukee's North Side.

She claims that unlike Jeffrey Dahmer's victims, the MPD put the murders of black prostitutes on the back burner.

And the media reported this bullshit...

5/20/2009 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

waterboarding?

5/20/2009 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I punch a heavy bag about three times a week. Boxed when I was a kid. Knowing how to punch is important, you know what I mean, so you don't sprain an untaped wrist. Pulling the majority of your punches is important, so you don't mess up your shoulder, bicept, etc. Punching with an ungloved hand, forget it, fractures, etc.
I'm not in top shape, but pretty good shape.
Full, all out, jabs, cross hooks, all out, maybe I last a minute or about 25 punches.
Dogging it, five minutes tops.

So I don't believe the guy, I might believe it if the guy said, I got hit four or five times and was really scared, so I confessed, but none of these alleged victims give plausable statements, leading me not to beleive them....unfortunately I am in the civilian minority in this regard.

Stay safe officers.

---not a cop but not that not a cop---

5/20/2009 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detective Paladino, all 145 pounds of him, beat old Victor for thirty minutes. That, I would like to see!

5/20/2009 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now the Chicago daughter of one of the murdered black prostitutes is accusing the Milwaukee P.D. of "racism" because they "ignored" the seven serial murders of prostitutes on Milwaukee's North Side.

She claims that unlike Jeffrey Dahmer's victims, the MPD put the murders of black prostitutes on the back burner.

And the media reported this bullshit...

5/20/2009 08:11:00 AM

At least one of his victims were black. Dahmer wasn't arrested until one of is victims got away.

5/20/2009 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:11 AM

They're will always be assholes who will "play the race card".

When will the media give such incendiary comments the huge YAWN that it deserves?

5/20/2009 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Anonymous said...
Now the Chicago daughter of one of the murdered black prostitutes is accusing the Milwaukee P.D. of "racism" because they "ignored" the seven serial murders of prostitutes on Milwaukee's North Side."

Do ya think she has visions of multiple $$$$$$$$ floating thru her head ???? She wants the money w/o having to do the dirty deed !!!!!!!!!

5/20/2009 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Milwaukee PD said...

Most of Jeffrey Dahmer's 15 homicide victims were BLACK. The daughter of the strangled prostitute is full of shit. Yet, the media reports such crap without researching any rebuttal.

5/20/2009 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this murdering POS was beaten so badly in to confessing why didn't he complain about it when he appeared before the judge at his probable cause hearing? Sounds like he's tossed one too many salads.

5/20/2009 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For years I thought that little "torture box" with the wires coming out of it was confiscated from Burge et al. Recently I discovered that the box is a REPLICA of what these ghetto rats ALLEGE they saw. And the media prints the picture over and over again like it's gospel. My guess is nothing is going to happen to Burge. If something was going to happen it would have happened by now. Too many skeletons probably.

---not a cop

5/20/2009 06:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay safe officers.

---not a cop but not that not a cop---

5/20/2009 10:58:00 AM

Hey, how u doin'

---not a cop

5/20/2009 06:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When is this witch-hunt and total waste of the Taxpayers Money going to end? If therre was anyhing solid on Commander Burge, it would have came out decades ago. Did Burge not do his job and catch the cold-blooded Police Officer's Killers? Was there not evidence other than the phoney tortured out of them confessions? Was Daley not the States Attorney who reviewed the whole case at the time? Were any of the offenders crippled, left permenantly disfigured, or killed, as a result of Burges actions? NO. So where does anybody get off wasting the taxpayers dollars for this 3 ring circus, now going on for almost 3 decades, just to appease some lieing thugs and their bleeding-heart liberal followers, who have no life outside of this waste of time and money nonsense. This is a total liberal witch-hunt, with nothing of real substantial evidence to back up the false claims of a couple of psychopath police killers and their sick entourage of lifetime losers, thinking falsely that they some day will be someone if they carry on their whineing act long enough to get something in front of some anti-police, liberal loser Judge, who will disregard the facts and run with speculation, lies, and looking to make a name for him or herself by issuing a warped judicial ruling. ENOUGH
ALREADY, quit beating a dead horse with a million dollar whip.

5/20/2009 06:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He also doesnt alledge that he didnt do it, only that it was the beating that forced him to own up to it. If thats the case, I say beat more scumbag perps.

5/20/2009 07:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When will the media give such incendiary comments the huge YAWN that it deserves?

5/20/2009 02:43:00 PM

when it stops selling newspapers/ getting viewers------probably never

5/20/2009 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media also said Burge put a bucket of Church's fried chicken in front of the defendant and ate it with some grape pop without sharing. Now that is racism!

5/20/2009 09:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Ray Bam Bam Wilke said...

I don't know who you sissies are trying to convince. I once beat a pervert who was beating off in his car in front of my house for two hours without stopping. I bombarded him with lefts and rights to the head, face and body. That's the last time that beat off beat off in front of Bam Bam's house.

5/20/2009 09:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media also said Burge put a bucket of Church's fried chicken in front of the defendant and ate it with some grape pop without sharing. Now that is racism.

It is also torture. Worse than waterboarding.

5/21/2009 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
For years I thought that little "torture box" with the wires coming out of it was confiscated from Burge et al. Recently I discovered that the box is a REPLICA of what these ghetto rats ALLEGE they saw. And the media prints the picture over and over again like it's gospel. My guess is nothing is going to happen to Burge. If something was going to happen it would have happened by now. Too many skeletons probably.

---not a cop

5/20/2009 06:37:00 PM
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I've been telling people that for years. There's some police that think that thing is real. It's just a bs prop.

5/21/2009 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ever been tasered? 5 seconds is a very long time. i'm just saying that when you're getting the shit kicked out of you, 3 minutes could seem like a whole lot longer.

5/21/2009 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been telling people that for years. There's some police that think that thing is real. It's just a bs prop.

5/21/2009 01:14:00 AM

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Like the Xerox "Lie Detector" used in an episode of The Wire.

5/21/2009 06:50:00 PM  

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