Rumor Mill in Overdrive
You can tell the shit is brewing and something is going to hit the fan. The lines are burning up.
- #1. Daley has asked the exempts for 20, count them, 20 days w/o pay. Source says they have 10 days to decide whether to accept or resume civil service rank. Equivalent to a 7% pay cut.
#2. All civilian employees of the department are to be fired unless they accept 15 days off without pay. Their unions asked whether or not this would ensure job security, and the city said we don't know. They are now negotiating over it, but the federally required 30 day notices of layoffs are scheduled to be mailed out to all such employees at the end of the month (10 more days), with language saying you MAY be laid off, but not that it will actually happen.
#3. 38 Sgts to be named Thursday 21 May, with a start date in the Academy of Tuesday.
And this commentator has been dead on for a number of other rumors, so we look forward to the next few days.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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"#1. Daley has asked the exempts for 20, count them, 20 days w/o pay. Source says they have 10 days to decide whether to accept or resume civil service rank. Equivalent to a 7% pay cut."
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Ace Reporter Phil Schitz says to the exempts: Now you know how the blue shirts feel.
If you want to save money, get rid of 25 aldershits.
How many days or pay is this Fuk head and alderpimps giving back?
THE EXEMPTS MUST FINALLY REALIZE THEY ARE SERVING AT THE WILL OF THE MAYOR... IF U KEEP RECORDS ON THE GOLD STARS U WILL NOTICE A PERCENTAGE OF THEM HAVE PUT IN LAWSUITS AGAINST THE CITY FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
WHAT R THEY GOING TO DO GRIEVE TO THE SGT OR LTS PRETEND UNION.
DONT 4 GET THE LT AND SGT REPS FOR THE PENSION BOARD VOTED AGAINST RELEASING DOCUMENTS ABOUT DALEY NEPHEW DEALINGS!!!
THE ONLY SAFE 1 IS J-FED B-CUZ HE HAS A NICE SHORTERM CONTRACT...
MAY B THOSE EXEMPTS WILL REVOLT ONCE AND START BACKSTABBING J-FED.
I EXPECT LEAKS!!! COMING FROM HQ...
WHATS 20 DAY OF PAY TO A GOLD STAR THEY MAKE THAT UP IN WASTED GAS IN THEIR TAKE HOME CARS.
LET SEE IF THE GOLD STAR UNION IS REALLY A UNION SINCE THEY HAD NO BALLS TO MARCH...
It will be interesting for some of these exempts, it will come down to ego vs. money..
If a bunch leave I am sure there are plenty ready to jump in, meaning we get a whole new shakeup, why not that worked out so good last time...
This was to be rumored why McNulty put his papers in, the cut would hurt his pension to much.
OT --- chicagobreakingnews.com
Alderman's Likely Heir Erred With FOP Signs
May 20, 2009 10:11 PM |
The heir apparent to retiring Ald. William J.P. Banks (36th) displayed a Fraternal Order of Police medallion and an FOP membership sticker on his car even though he is not a police officer, in apparent violation of state law.
Asked Wednesday at the ward office why he stuck the medallion to his car's rear license plate, Rice replied, "How do you know it's my car?" He declined further comment.
The car vanished minutes later and then reappeared without the medallion.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/
2009/05/aldermans-likely-heir-
erred-with-fop-signs.html
some of the 20 'exempts' they're talking about need not to be paid no more than what a PPO starting salary is...they need to increase our salaries and may be then some of us with more common sense can start feeling a bit more appreciated. The salary cut should be at least 25%. "you feel my pain NOW!!"
OT: Class of 30 Sgts to start 26 May. It's been 3 years since the test and they've made about 115 off the list.
5/20/2009 11:25:00 AM
Wrong!!! They've only made 88, that's right 88 sgts off the list that has been up about 3 years. Even if you score great on the test your odds on becoming a sgt now a days is about .00001%
5/20/2009 11:34:00 PM
This is from another thread but this number is dead on. No wonder the average blue shirt could give a shit about this job it's damn near impossible to get promoted. Where does the numbers stand on the detective test? I know that's at a turtles pace also.
Will the Burger Queen need to find a summer job at white castle?
Dopy is retiring soon! It's official.
# 1) F.U. daley
# 2) You mean non clouted employees will be fired
# 3) 38 sgt? whats that going to do we need like 200 to cover the loss from the last year or so and the ones retiring.
Something is brewing in the Daley think tank. The Daleys are up to something. I'm told from a city hall bird that after the Olympics are awarded to Chicago that the mayor will ask to add another star to the city flag. It will be called the Daley star for all that the Daley family has given to the city. The Daley support numbers are way down and they are attempting to get the general public support because they want the star added by support and not by threat. That is one reason John Daley voted against Stroger trying to get the general public to like the Daley name again. I say its to late! Change is coming in 2011 and NO Star for the Daley Crime Family.
Does this apply to JFED? JFED are you a man or a mouse? Go after this piece of filth Mayo! You got the Fed resourses use them take Da Mayo down and become the most famous lawman of all time!!!!!!!
Off Topic: (from an earlier post)
City Lights was created by a former 10th Ward (Vrydoliak, not Pope) Hispanic Deputy Commissioner from Madigan Electric...I mean Bureau of Electricity. I believe that his daughter was put "on the title" so that it could have both MBE/WBE certifications. (helpful for set-asides in most larger contracts)
As he retired, a number of large overhead & underground contracts just so happened to go to his daughter's firm.
Hope that helps...
Former Cmdr now Lt J.C. has done his part to help the budget crunch. He has been off on the medical for over a year. Oops I forgot he gets paid on the medical.
If I had a Gold Star, I'd take the pay cut. Its not like its perminent, right? Right??
WOW !!!
trickle up pain.
now the bosses can join the ranks in just not giving a fuck anymore.
20 days off, does that include Keating? They likely will take the days off w/o pay and then come in to work anyway, you know, to show what team players they are.
For once it pays to be a lowly civil service PO.
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Random thoughts here...
It would seem that the rank & file
'slowdown' has been a huge success.
Space now exists at the County jail. Courtrooms less crowded, dockets very light. One would think that the County would begin initiating some layoffs/forced retirements of their own, with a reduced need for Court reporters,
bailiffs, clerks, etc.
A 20 working days unpaid "furlo" for exempts? OUCH! Does this mean that the rule regarding any part time work done by exempts having to be approved by the Supts. office is going to be relaxed? Because I can see a lot of them
trying to muscle in on working Sox & Cubs games this summer (and whatever else they can find), if this proposal takes fruit. Will they also be able to apply to work Special Employment? If so, how will that work? Will they have to wear a blue shirt for those special employment details?
I see a number of retirements coming from the exempts if this actually happens. A month without pay means they will make no more money than a Capt.
Why has there been no attempt up to now to fill the exempt position of Cmdr of Vice? It's no secret that Rayl isn't coming back from his medical issues.
Any of the Old Timer Exempts who dont leave before giving up that much money which will affect their pension are crazy. I heard one of the Best is pulling the pin to screw the mayor. Best of luck Pat McNulty, you are a true great guy and will be missed. All the young exempt are over a barrell and are also basically screwed. Way to go J-Stupid keep your exempt team happy maybe they will work 80 hours a week for less money . You are a fool as is Daley.
Retired and LAughing
why are more Sgts. needed with less manpower? More wasted tax dollars for political gain for Daley.
If I anywhere close to retiring, I would get the f*ck otta dodge ASAP.
Rumor # 2 sounds like a big stretch, to me.
Shortshanks has been civilianizing this dept. for 15-20 years and been reducing the # of sworn members for the same amount of time.
Now he thinks he can make this dept. function without 'em?
I DON'T THINK SO !
For every civilian let go, there will have to be someone, (a sworn officer?), to pick up the slack.
The civilians are the ones who, for years, have been picking up the slack for a shortage of sworn officers.
Shortshanks' refusal to keep the # of sworn officers at a safe and acceptable level is putting citizens and officers lives in peril. He needs to be in prison!
Off Topic _
Once again Inspectors chastised sergeants for managing calls for service ( 19-p that BS!)
Apparently OEMC supervisors refuse to manage the calls taken and dispatched to units in the field. This results in a backlog of nonsense calls that are totally anti-productive. When good Sgt’s attempt to do what they are suppose to do; i.e. supervise!; they get threatened by some goof Big Bird inspector for doing their jobs. WTF does an inspector know about what’s going on in a district anyway. So the result is a 8 or 10 hour RAP with calls being dispatched 2 and 3 hours late. Officer arrive to find irate citizens who after waiting 2 hours, have already called IAD and got and got a CR# because they thought they got blown off. NOW, the poor Sgt has to handle a BS cr# because the BS inspector told him he couldn’t clear the board of BS calls !
This is insanity.
Oh yes- and when did you run that mission Sarge???
Can I reassign this CR to the Birdman?
I'm really gonna care about the exempts having to take a pay cut. BOO-F-HOO !!!
"#1. Daley has asked the exempts for 20, count them, 20 days w/o pay. Source says they have 10 days to decide whether to accept or resume civil service rank. Equivalent to a 7% pay cut."
Hopefully car 47 will choose to take fridays and saturdays off this summah.
Rumor has it that Peterson is not long for his spot or this Department. He allegedly told Daley, through Master's, to kiss his ass if Daley thinks he's taking all these unpaid days.
Say what you will about him, but if that's true, God Bless him for having some balls! Must be nice to be in the KMA club.
OT: Looks like Doty is leaving!!
Since 021 has been turned into a dumping ground they might as well send over the Burger Queen.
5/20/2009 01:56:00 AM
Wow thats news, any word on who the new commander will be ?
Those of us in 004 can only hope our exempt will step down and go back to his civil service rank somewhere else. After all, his front office P.O.'s and CAPS office actually run the district....sad.
The city is short on manpower all over the place, my contractors licence expires the middle of May every year, I sent in the renewal with payment in the middle of April, It still has not been updated, I am now working without a license, no biggie if an inspector asks because I can prove I sent it in on time, however I can not pull any permits they don't give a shit
2009 a year of results. The funny thing is less cops less arrests and there is still less crime. I guess its better to be lucky than good.
What all the exempts should do is take their unpaid days during the month of July and let the city burn on the 3rd.
I have a feeling that my bunion is going to act up that day.
I think the exempts should take 30 unpaid days, for starters; if the program is successful (leadership by example), then add another 30 unpaid days later in the year...
12GA. said...
Off Topic: (from an earlier post)
City Lights was created by a former 10th Ward (Vrydoliak, not Pope) Hispanic Deputy Commissioner from Madigan Electric...I mean Bureau of Electricity. I believe that his daughter was put "on the title" so that it could have both MBE/WBE certifications. (helpful for set-asides in most larger contracts)
As he retired, a number of large overhead & underground contracts just so happened to go to his daughter's firm.
Hope that helps...
5/21/2009 01:50:00 AM
Thanks.
capt. helm for district commander
Get rid of some of the exempts. This department is way to top heavy already. Eliminate the rank of deputy chief. There I just saved the department 1,000,000 dollars.
Deputy Chief is a useless rank. Eliminate the tow chief of patrol spots, you know the black spot and the white spot, make it one spot and give it to the most qualified person. Get rid of one the first deputies while you at it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If I had a Gold Star, I'd take the pay cut. Its not like its perminent, right? Right??
5/21/2009 03:33:00 AM
Um, if they are gonna do that to gold, just imagine what they are gonna try to do to your tin...
"... They've only made 88, that's right 88 sgts off the list that has been up about 3 years ..."
5/20/2009 11:34:00 PM
And is that with or without the 30% 'merit' promotions?
Asked Wednesday at the ward office why he stuck the medallion to his car's rear license plate, Rice replied, "How do you know it's my car?" He declined further comment.
The car vanished minutes later and then reappeared without the medallion.
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BOY! he's got the criminal-thing down pat. He'll be a fine alderman....
Anonymous said...
"... They likely will take the days off w/o pay and then come in to work anyway, you know, to show what team players they are... "
5/21/2009 05:56:00 AM
Why? No one cares if they're there or not. It's not like they do anything.
see a number of retirements coming from the exempts if this actually happens. A month without pay means they will make no more money than a Capt.
Why has there been no attempt up to now to fill the exempt position of Cmdr of Vice? It's no secret that Rayl isn't coming back from his medical issues.
5/21/2009 06:16:00 AM
A certain LT E.G. is sooooo anxious to be the replacement and take command of vice. She is highly qulaified and is a actual doctor. If we can have Doty and mealer, why no E.G.?
After the dust settles and WEISel has fled, don't be surprised to see Shields as our next Supt.
Anonymous said...
OT: Looks like Doty is leaving!!
Since 021 has been turned into a dumping ground they might as well send over the Burger Queen.
5/20/2009 01:56:00 AM
Wow thats news, any word on who the new commander will be ?
5/21/2009 08:42:00 AM
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Yeah, Capt White
Anonymous said...
"... If a bunch leave (exempts), I am sure there are plenty ready to jump in, meaning we get a whole new shakeup ..."
5/21/2009 12:55:00 AM
I'm sure any new exempts can expect a "probationary" period during which time they will continue to collect only their Lt's pay, (say approximately 20 days or more).
Wouldn't it be great if ALL exempts went back to their civil service ranks?
How much money would that save? No exempts on the dept!
Just imagine how f-ed up leadership would be if he had to replace EVERYONE in an exempt position with someone else.
I have a feeling that more than a few exempts are going to be putting in their retirement papers in shortly.
So much for MASTERS's
Grand Plan to bring the Dept. into the 21st century..
Hahaha
#1. Daley has asked the exempts for 20, count them, 20 days w/o pay. Source says they have 10 days to decide whether to accept or resume civil service rank. Equivalent to a 7% pay cut.
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If this is true, some of these newer exempts may end up 'earning'... Oops, my bad, I mean 'taking home' a paycheck smaller than some senior Lt's & Capt's that are working under him. How's that gold star feeling now, suckhole!
Former Cmdr now Lt J.C. has done his part to help the budget crunch. He has been off on the medical for over a year. Oops I forgot he gets paid on the medical.
So Capt. Crunch is not helping the budget crunch? So, is Donny on the medical too?
So where does the federal stimulus money go? I don't care about exempts but some civilian jobs should be protected if the city is accepting federal money. Hey Daley, you lay people off-they don't collect a check and no longer pay taxes---no money coming in, you still loose.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's why McNulty and McCotter are both leaving. Why the hell let this little dwarf affect your pension for the remainder of your life? IT'S TOTALLY NOT WORTH IT. We'll probably lose a few more good bosses before this is over. The department is doomed.
THERE ARE OVER 100 EXEMPTS
Get Rid of half of them!!!!!
CAPTAINS:
Captains can run a District - known as a "District Commander" only in name, however they would be Captains making only about $5000 a year more than "Watch Captains".
COMMANDERS:
Commanders would take over the spots of Area Deputy Chiefs and would be called "Area Commanders". They would keep the same pay they are making now.
DEPUTY CHIEFS:
"Deputy Chief of Patrol" would replace the 2 Chiefs of Patrol who both make about $180,000 @ year.
Only 1 Deputy Chief with his/her current pay would run the Patrol Division.
CHIEF:
ONLY 1 CHIEF would be directly under the Superintendent of Police . .
There would be NO "Assistant Superintendents" anymore and NO 1st Deputy.
As far as other parts of the department (Detective Division etc.) the same cuts would be made.
The BOTTOM LINE IS:
everyone of these "bosses" would do their jobs.. if they can't do the job they would be dumped.
ALSO.. Only less than 3% of those who have take home cars would keep them.
WHO NEEDS A TAKE HOME CAR?:
* Superintendent
* Chief
* A District Captain and Area Commander who could be called in while off-duty for District emergencies.
* Any others who are off duty and "On Call" who could be called in for emergencies.
NO! . . not Tact Lieutenants or anyone in narcotics.
CUT THE FAT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dopy last day in work is 29 May, officially retires in August. 21 is getting some kind of actor or Cynthia is going to make some important decisions for that period of time. No rumors reg. new replacement yet.
This is from another thread but this number is dead on. No wonder the average blue shirt could give a shit about this job it's damn near impossible to get promoted. Where does the numbers stand on the detective test? I know that's at a turtles pace also.
5/21/2009 01:03:00 AM
They've taken about 230 off the list and it's been almost 5 years since they gave the last detective exam. December 18, 2004 was when the last test took place so 7 more months it will have been exactly 5 years. This department is a fucking disgrace.
Will J-Fed and his FBI pals have to take 20 days off without pay?
If no, why???
Dopy is retiring soon! It's official.
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He's gonna be the new #2 at C.P.S. w/Shields.
WOW !!!
trickle up pain.
now the bosses can join the ranks in just not giving a fuck anymore.
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Just remember this costs each exempt about $10,000 and it decreases their pensions, and considering most of them are in their last 4 years you can expect them to be pissed. Welcome to our world!!!!!
why are more Sgts. needed with less manpower? More wasted tax dollars for political gain for Daley.
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That's the $64,000 question. He wants to promote as many of "his people" as he can and get rid of as many exempts (hence, the 55 and out) so he fill these spots and have these people in high level positions in time for the Olympics.
Those of us in 004 can only hope our exempt will step down and go back to his civil service rank somewhere else. After all, his front office P.O.'s and CAPS office actually run the district....sad.
5/21/2009 08:43:00 AM
Whats up with the 004th district commander not putting Sgts on 3rd and 1st watch? I heard 3rd watch there usually only has 1 sgt up now
If any exempts choose to not take unpaid furlough days and are returned to civil service rank, who"s gonna run the show? you think another capt. or lt. will step in to lose 20 days? will they remain in command positions with cicvil service ranks? if so, they will be putting in out of grade slips as actors everyday, resulting in huge increases in overtime; who thought this one out? With the huge amount of stimulus money coming this shouldn't be an issue, especially considering all the vacant p.o., det, sgt, lt. spots we are budgeted for and remain unfilled, resulting in savings for the city.
This should be interesting, all the bosses who can retire, should, those that can't, should give it up, then what will the dept. do?????
Hopefully car 47 will choose to take fridays and saturdays off this summah
And take Car 1800 and his buddy, the Lt. in Area Three HGS with him. Talk about three morons running around together, what a menage a trois.
HATER said...
THE EXEMPTS MUST FINALLY REALIZE THEY ARE SERVING AT THE WILL OF THE MAYOR... IF U KEEP RECORDS ON THE GOLD STARS U WILL NOTICE A PERCENTAGE OF THEM HAVE PUT IN LAWSUITS AGAINST THE CITY FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
WHAT R THEY GOING TO DO GRIEVE TO THE SGT OR LTS PRETEND UNION.
DONT 4 GET THE LT AND SGT REPS FOR THE PENSION BOARD VOTED AGAINST RELEASING DOCUMENTS ABOUT DALEY NEPHEW DEALINGS!!!
THE ONLY SAFE 1 IS J-FED B-CUZ HE HAS A NICE SHORTERM CONTRACT...
MAY B THOSE EXEMPTS WILL REVOLT ONCE AND START BACKSTABBING J-FED.
I EXPECT LEAKS!!! COMING FROM HQ...
WHATS 20 DAY OF PAY TO A GOLD STAR THEY MAKE THAT UP IN WASTED GAS IN THEIR TAKE HOME CARS.
LET SEE IF THE GOLD STAR UNION IS REALLY A UNION SINCE THEY HAD NO BALLS TO MARCH...
5/21/2009 12:36:00 AM
True they make from 150-189K they can well afford it! And if they can do without them for 20+ days guess we have to many right JODY??
Anonymous said...
Will the Burger Queen need to find a summer job at white castle?
5/21/2009 01:03:00 AM
No her and the "destroyer" of morale in 051 ellyn will be on tour! A "search and destroy and morale every unit everywhere"!
Anonymous said...
I'm really gonna care about the exempts having to take a pay cut. BOO-F-HOO !!!
5/21/2009 08:14:00 AM
I agreed 100% they are overpaid hacks all of them1
Anonymous said...
Former Cmdr now Lt J.C. has done his part to help the budget crunch. He has been off on the medical for over a year. Oops I forgot he gets paid on the medical.
5/21/2009 02:53:00 AM
He retired asshole and we miss him in 051,compared to what we have now he was a prince!
Anonymous said...
Does this apply to JFED? JFED are you a man or a mouse? Go after this piece of filth Mayo! You got the Fed resourses use them take Da Mayo down and become the most famous lawman of all time!!!!!!!
5/21/2009 01:36:00 AM
If he did this,I will gladly stand up and proclaim him as the best we ever had!
Anonymous said...
OT --- chicagobreakingnews.com
Alderman's Likely Heir Erred With FOP Signs
May 20, 2009 10:11 PM |
The heir apparent to retiring Ald. William J.P. Banks (36th) displayed a Fraternal Order of Police medallion and an FOP membership sticker on his car even though he is not a police officer, in apparent violation of state law.
Asked Wednesday at the ward office why he stuck the medallion to his car's rear license plate, Rice replied, "How do you know it's my car?" He declined further comment.
The car vanished minutes later and then reappeared without the medallion.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/
2009/05/aldermans-likely-heir-
erred-with-fop-signs.html
5/21/2009 12:58:00 AM
There is fireman that lives neear me,drives a brown ford explorer with a chicago police license plate for the last 5 years,no sticker,and no one gives a fuck! Come on the 6300 block of south Lamon on 813's beat and see!
What about that k-9 list ....?
All civilians will NOT be laid off. Dream on. Only 25 or so data entry operators are slated for lay off from the CPD.
Those of us in 004 can only hope our exempt will step down and go back to his civil service rank somewhere else. After all, his front office P.O.'s and CAPS office actually run the district....sad.
5/21/2009 08:43:00 AM
Oh Fuck You,Stop complaining about the front office and CAPS if you could you would have your ass in there too. Damn nothing is forever and they too will return to the street but until then Fuck You
There is fireman that lives neear me,drives a brown ford explorer with a chicago police license plate for the last 5 years,no sticker,and no one gives a fuck! Come on the 6300 block of south Lamon on 813's beat and see!
5/21/2009 03:41:00 PM
You Are a PUSSY. Why dont' you just call the police dont try and bait 813 over there to help your punk ass out
Is the list out yet
Former Cmdr now Lt J.C. has done his part to help the budget crunch. He has been off on the medical for over a year. Oops I forgot he gets paid on the medical.
Gee you don't know what your talking about. He retired on the 15th of May moron
Only the good bosses will leave. The Illinois Restaurant Association will continue to have their exempts featuring Andrews and Georges. They will now be allowed to return to their side jobs as waiters to supplement their lost incomes.
The civilians are the ones who, for years, have been picking up the slack for a shortage of sworn officers.
Civilians picking up the shortage for sworn police are you a moron
Since J-Fed is being paid over $300,000 and was hired to do two jobs, one was taken away from him and given to someone else, maybe cut his salary in half.
A wife...
21/2009 01:06:00 AM
Anonymous said...
# 1) F.U. daley
# 2) You mean non clouted employees will be fired
# 3) 38 sgt? whats that going to do we need like 200 to cover the loss from the last year or so and the ones retiring.
5/21/2009 01:21:00 AM
have you heard about those clouted sergants that were sent away for 5 weeks of training? well they are back. rumor has it some of them will get promoted to LT in the fall. The 38 new sgt. will barely make up for those spots.
Daley, another way to save money: get rid of the 25 cars that the sergeants in IAD use to save gas money as they drive them to and from work.
Does this apply to JFED? JFED are you a man or a mouse? Go after this piece of filth Mayo! You got the Fed resourses use them take Da Mayo down and become the most famous lawman of all time!!!!!!!
You really think they are close? I bet even Weis has to go through channels to communicate with Daley.
If any exempts choose to not take unpaid furlough days and are returned to civil service rank, who"s gonna run the show? you think another capt. or lt. will step in to lose 20 days? will they remain in command positions with cicvil service ranks? if so, they will be putting in out of grade slips as actors everyday, resulting in huge increases in overtime; who thought this one out? With the huge amount of stimulus money coming this shouldn't be an issue, especially considering all the vacant p.o., det, sgt, lt. spots we are budgeted for and remain unfilled, resulting in savings for the city.
This should be interesting, all the bosses who can retire, should, those that can't, should give it up, then what will the dept. do?????
5/21/2009 03:02:00 PM
Won't they just have to pay a Captain to be Acting Commander??
Any word on the marine unit? Is it true they are no taking any more people?
20 days off, does that include Keating? They likely will take the days off w/o pay and then come in to work anyway, you know, to show what team players they are.
For once it pays to be a lowly civil service PO.
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5/21/2009 05:56:00 AM
That is exactly what is expected of top management. Give up the money, but still put in the time, besides, they steal time away at other times during the year. They'll steal it back, and more. It's the gold star code of daily management.
capt. helm for district commander
5/21/2009 09:39:00 AM
I could say a bunch of stuff, but I will be brief. Are you stupid? Whizzo the Clown would be a better D/C than Helm or White.
"What about that k-9 list ....?
5/21/2009 04:26:00 PM"
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City Lights??? ever hear of Chicago Water Partners??? they are former Water Dept. bosses that retired and getting city pensions and they "SUPERVISE" city water main installations and water main valve repairs and inspections, kind of like a Lt. Detective retiring and coming back to oversee investigations
There is fireman that lives neear me,drives a brown ford explorer with a chicago police license plate for the last 5 years,no sticker,and no one gives a fuck! Come on the 6300 block of south Lamon on 813's beat and see!
-----------------------------------cityofchicago.org - online services - 311 services - traffic city vehicle sticker violations- give address,mak/model of vehicle and license number, believe me with in two days it will have a ticket, I hate to be a rat but I did this to two neighbors and they now have stickers, if I have to have one and all cops have to have one why should the neighbor not have one, fair is fair
Say what you want about Peterson, but he's a damn good boss. If he has something to say he says it and it's over. He listens when you have something to say and unless your a dogass, he treats you with respect. He is and always will be a copper at heart.
I'll take Shields over J-Fed any day. At least Shields don't walk around like his shit don't stink and stick his face in the blackberry when any coppers are around, so he don't have to speak to them.
J-Fed forced bosses like Grau, Chasen and many other great bosses out. He's got to get rid of the last few bosses who have any sense like Peterson, McNulty and McCotter. How can he totally fuck up the department with any bosses that have a clue what this job is. Retirement can't get here quick enough. Too bad when I got on, I never thought this department would turn into what it is. I loved this job for many years, but now it's just what it is a job. Do my 8 and go home. Fuck Daley, J-Fed and this city.
K-9 list was nuetered.
McCotter going too???
""WHO NEEDS A TAKE HOME CAR?:
* Superintendent
* Chief
* A District Captain and Area Commander who could be called in while off-duty for District emergencies.
* Any others who are off duty and "On Call" who could be called in for emergencies.
NO! . . not Tact Lieutenants or anyone in narcotics.""
Sorry, I'll agree with you on the first two only. How many incidents do these people actually need to respond to in a year?
Lets have an example: A car costs about $22000 and gas at 14MPG city
Suppose home is 7 miles away. A gallon a day at oh, lets say $3.00 a gallon. Ok, work 250 days a year, thats 250 gallons of gas, just to and from home for $750 a year. Bosses get new cars lets say every 3 years. SO gas for three years is $2250 and car is $22000
for a total of $24250. Now lets say these guys get called out once a month...Thats 36 times over 3 years.
Thats $673 just for the car EACH TIME THEY ARE CALLED OUT. (IF THEY ARE CALLED OUT ONCE A MONTH)
I think they could use their personal car and get reimbursed the federal 55 cents a mile. Hell, I'll even give them a revolving red Kojak light and alternating headlights if they want it......
"... December 18, 2004 was when the last test took place so 7 more months it will have been exactly 5 years. This department is a fucking disgrace..."
5/21/2009 12:20:00 PM
That's nothing. I was hired Feb 78 and made Sgt. in the very 1st class I could possibly be promoted... that was on 01 Dec 88.
TEN AND A HALF YEARS LATER if you are counting. Back then, the Federal courts had to approve every aspect of promotions, from the exam questions to the name, race and sex of the promotees. All this was courtesy of a previous city administration meddling in the promotional process.
This city has been a disgrace for decades.
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In other professions if you make over 100k, you're responsible for your own retirement (401k, Roth IRA, etc). Making that kind of money isn't exactly being a public servant.
As to #3. More Chiefs and no more Indians? Is there a new CPD alignment to have fewer in patrol and more managing them?
Sgt list out. 20 off list. 9 merit. Total 30. Why they are not promoting more is beyond me. This would get people out of specialized units and into patrol. Would be more openings in special units then. City that works
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hopefully car 47 will choose to take fridays and saturdays off this summah
And take Car 1800 and his buddy, the Lt. in Area Three HGS with him. Talk about three morons running around together, what a menage a trois.
5/21/2009 03:25:00 PM
Oh no, who will chase the bucket boyz??
Ref; DETECTIVES.
Kid,it has been quite a while since they made dicks.
I would love to see you young guys who want to be dicks make it before I retire. The areas needs a sharp looking... and yes..attitude detective'.
It would do us old timers good to see dicks in the late 20's running the ship. We had out turn, now the ship is yours kids.
God bless the great CPD and the new breed who make us proud.
OT...Didn't know where else to post it....a BIG THANKS to all who helped out at Simeon today...there was a power outage that spanned 3 Districts...006 Right in the middle....Multiple 10-1's....Business Areas affected, along with the BS @ Simeon....Thanks for the Support
Proud to Be Blue
I would go on a nice vacation if I were them, they make enough cash.
When is the mayor ans aldercreatures going to give anything back????????????? They have been stealing for years...
Beware of The Trojan Horse for inside it is Daley and Donahue! We have two enemies! Good cop bad cop routine! Donahue will tell us before the cock crows three times, "This is the best deal I could get you!" Remember the 80% scam which was coming any day now? Daley is the real FOP President! Demand that they reduce the number of years our pension will be based on! Demand three years instead of four! Do the math and see the difference! We are being scammed by these two thieves!
There is fireman that lives neear me,drives a brown ford explorer with a chicago police license plate for the last 5 years,no sticker,and no one gives a fuck! Come on the 6300 block of south Lamon on 813's beat and see!
--Get a life! piddly bullshit
Who's gonna run the show? The show runs itself. The great majority of merit exempts are more of a hinderance than a help. Hell, make them tak 6 months off without pay. Things will run just fine. In fact, oprobably better.
most of the good ole bosses are long gone. i have little sympathy for current bunch. they re all worried about their upward mobility and will throw you under the bus in a heartbeat.none will admit to political connections and they spend all day making up war stories.
Forget promoting sergeants hire more police officers.
Won't they just have to pay a Captain to be Acting Commander??
They will still get out of grade for being the actor and overtime, so how does the city save?
Whats up with the 004th district commander not putting Sgts on 3rd and 1st watch? I heard 3rd watch there usually only has 1 sgt up now
5/21/2009 02:39:00 PM
SGTs in 003 are being forced to wokr in 004.
merit=drivers licens
J-Puds driver gets promoted
Stop with the grau shout outs. He only did whatever cline told him to do. Period. And besides peterson did grau a favor and promoted notsobright (who was graus trusted left hand) to the airport commander. What does that say about graus judgement? Just like clines, very poor.
Anonymous said...
The civilians are the ones who, for years, have been picking up the slack for a shortage of sworn officers.
Civilians picking up the shortage for sworn police are you a moron
5/21/2009 05:40:00 PM
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Not sure what happens in your district but civilians do pick up the slack; no POs in the lockup, data entry covering in review and front office, caps covering the POs so they can go shopping and eat.
"J-Fed forced bosses like Grau, Chasen and many other great bosses out"
SIGNED,
MIKE CHASEN
HEY ANYONE OUT THERE GOT A LINE ON PREPARATION H SOLD @ A DISCOUNT??
Anonymous said...
The civilians are the ones who, for years, have been picking up the slack for a shortage of sworn officers.
Civilians picking up the shortage for sworn police are you a moron
5/21/2009 05:40:00 PM
Do you prefer civilians as secretaries, citation clerks and other silly paperwork jobs or full duty sworn officers? Some units have six full duty officers performing simple clerical jobs. No one can replace sornw personel but they can fill nonessentail jobs. Now who is the moron, you idiot.
Anonymous said...
Stop with the grau shout outs. He only did whatever cline told him to do. Period. And besides peterson did grau a favor and promoted notsobright (who was graus trusted left hand) to the airport commander. What does that say about graus judgement? Just like clines, very poor.
5/22/2009 05:25:00 AM
Agrred! And notso promoted ellyn "queen of all that is wrong with cpd" to unit c.o. at 051! maybe they both need to go away,don't go away mad just go away!
Anonymous said...
Stop with the grau shout outs. He only did whatever cline told him to do. Period. And besides peterson did grau a favor and promoted notsobright (who was graus trusted left hand) to the airport commander. What does that say about graus judgement? Just like clines, very poor.
5/22/2009 05:25:00 AM
so notsos clout is screaming skull!
Anonymous said...
most of the good ole bosses are long gone. i have little sympathy for current bunch. they re all worried about their upward mobility and will throw you under the bus in a heartbeat.none will admit to political connections and they spend all day making up war stories.
5/21/2009 11:25:00 PM
True,what about the "fatman" sgt in 008 lb? That guy is so full of shit!
Anonymous said...
""WHO NEEDS A TAKE HOME CAR?:
* Superintendent
* Chief
* A District Captain and Area Commander who could be called in while off-duty for District emergencies.
* Any others who are off duty and "On Call" who could be called in for emergencies.
NO! . . not Tact Lieutenants or anyone in narcotics.""
Sorry, I'll agree with you on the first two only. How many incidents do these people actually need to respond to in a year?
Lets have an example: A car costs about $22000 and gas at 14MPG city
Suppose home is 7 miles away. A gallon a day at oh, lets say $3.00 a gallon. Ok, work 250 days a year, thats 250 gallons of gas, just to and from home for $750 a year. Bosses get new cars lets say every 3 years. SO gas for three years is $2250 and car is $22000
for a total of $24250. Now lets say these guys get called out once a month...Thats 36 times over 3 years.
Thats $673 just for the car EACH TIME THEY ARE CALLED OUT. (IF THEY ARE CALLED OUT ONCE A MONTH)
I think they could use their personal car and get reimbursed the federal 55 cents a mile. Hell, I'll even give them a revolving red Kojak light and alternating headlights if they want it......
5/21/2009 09:40:00 PM
Even better if it is a "call out" have a beat car pick them up and take their sorry ass wherever, saves the cost of the car and the personal errands done!
Anonymous said...
Won't they just have to pay a Captain to be Acting Commander??
They will still get out of grade for being the actor and overtime, so how does the city save?
5/22/2009 01:07:00 AM
Save because the city does not have to pay commanders pension money into plan!
5/21/2009 01:21:00 AM
have you heard about those clouted sergants that were sent away for 5 weeks of training? well they are back. rumor has it some of them will get promoted to LT in the fall. The 38 new sgt. will barely make up for those spots.
5/21/2009 05:44:00 PM
Ikes driver sergeant already been told he will be made! All legit right? All those years of carting sleepy ike around for nothing finally paid off!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hopefully car 47 will choose to take fridays and saturdays off this summah
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And take Car 1800 and his buddy, the Lt. in Area Three HGS with him. Talk about three morons running around together, what a menage a trois.
5/21/2009 03:25:00 PM
Their home lives must suck baboon balls.
Regardless, what three consenting adults do in a former "quiet room" on their lunch (two) hour(s) is none of our business. If they clean up with hand wipes and clorox bleach before the entertainment detail watch secretary shows up, who cares?
Only the good bosses will leave. The Illinois Restaurant Association will continue to have their exempts featuring Andrews and Georges. They will now be allowed to return to their side jobs as waiters to supplement their lost incomes.
Finally, Dean and Steve will have the real jobs for which they are qualified (waiter).
There will be no one left to look out for the working police officer. Anyone with brains will leave, and the likes of Car 47 will take over. Thank God that I'm a charter member of the KMA Club.
Since J-Fed is being paid over $300,000 and was hired to do two jobs, one was taken away from him and given to someone else, maybe cut his salary in half.
A wife...
5/21/2009 05:41:00 PM
shortshanks covered himself on this one. i'll explain. hold on because it is intentionally confusing. shortshanks does not want you to know the real deal. this was all in the newspapers, but in bits and pieces. you need a road map to follow it all.
okay, listen up. weis DID NOT lose one of his two positions.
do you remember cortez trotter? in order from 2001 to 2007, he was the head of oemc, then cfd, and then he wanted to retire.
he did retire, but to keep him around through the mayoral election, the mayor gave him the new made-up position of chief emergency management & public safety officer (chief em & ps officer). trotter agreed to this sweet deal and subsequently had his retirement income and a healthy check from the position of chief em & ps officer.
this position was set-up to have cpd, cfd, oemc and health, all report to the chief em & ps officer and they did report to trotter until he left city service after the mayoral election, and got another sweet deal by joining the general wesley clark group llc.
to this date, technically, cpd, cfd, oemc and health report to this made up position of chief emergency management & public safety officer.
weis was hired to fill the position of chief em & ps officer, and the position of cpd superintendent.
the money for both positions added up to about 330K, but the mayor got a steal of a deal (NOT!) by getting weis to fill two positions for 300K, thereby saving 30K plus benefits for one of the positions because the 2 positions were filled by one person.
technically, weis still has both positions, but he is just a figurehead as the chief emergency management & public safety officer, else weis of cpd , orozco of oemc, brooks of cfd and mason of health would all report to weis as the chief em & ps officer. weis would be reporting to himself. odd, true, and a real joke!
it sounds confusing, and orozco and mason would probably leave before really reporting to weis, but cpd superintendent and chief em & ps officer are the 2 positions filled by weis. weis is not, and never has been, the head of oemc. people get confused with the head position at oemc and the chief of em & ps officer position because they both have emergency management in the title, but they are technically seperate and distinct with the head of oemc reporting to the chief em & ps officer.
so you are wrong when you say weis had 1 of his 2 positions taken away from him. orozco being the head of oemc did not take a position away from weis. got it?
NOTSOBRIGHT--- great name
Grau, Maher and Chasen may have been alot of things, but at least they tried to move the Detective division forward. What has moved forward since they left. The only thing that has changed in the D unit is we have a hell of alot more work with a hell of alot of less bodies. At least Wysinger is decent, but he can't do shit without the higher ups approval. At least with Cline as boss, even with the politics, he allowed Grau to take new ideas and use them. what do we have now. Shit. Everybody just sits around and shit gets done. Patrol, the D unit and every other part of this department has gone to shit. Politics sucked, but is what we have any better? Oh I forgot, now you know who is meritorius. Big fucking deal. The rest of the department has gone to shit. I'd take Cline and the old bosses anyday of the week. At least they had a clue. This fucking bunch has has as much sense and knowledge as a pet rock. The new exempt motto should be Fuck you, I'm moving up and ain't doing shit for you.
Not sure what happens in your district but civilians do pick up the slack; no POs in the lockup, data entry covering in review and front office, caps covering the POs so they can go shopping and eat.
5/22/2009 08:41:00 AM
Not in 004, P.O.'s in review, 2nd and 3rd Watch, front office-majority P.O.'s and P.O.'s and Civilians in loick-up.
shortshanks covered himself on this one. i'll explain. hold on because it is intentionally confusing. shortshanks does not want you to know the real deal. this was all in the newspapers, but in bits and pieces. you need a road map to follow it all.
okay, listen up. weis DID NOT lose one of his two positions.
do you remember cortez trotter? in order from 2001 to 2007, he was the head of oemc, then cfd, and then he wanted to retire.
he did retire, but to keep him around through the mayoral election, the mayor gave him the new made-up position of chief emergency management & public safety officer (chief em & ps officer). trotter agreed to this sweet deal and subsequently had his retirement income and a healthy check from the position of chief em & ps officer.
this position was set-up to have cpd, cfd, oemc and health, all report to the chief em & ps officer and they did report to trotter until he left city service after the mayoral election, and got another sweet deal by joining the general wesley clark group llc.
to this date, technically, cpd, cfd, oemc and health report to this made up position of chief emergency management & public safety officer.
weis was hired to fill the position of chief em & ps officer, and the position of cpd superintendent.
the money for both positions added up to about 330K, but the mayor got a steal of a deal (NOT!) by getting weis to fill two positions for 300K, thereby saving 30K plus benefits for one of the positions because the 2 positions were filled by one person.
technically, weis still has both positions, but he is just a figurehead as the chief emergency management & public safety officer, else weis of cpd , orozco of oemc, brooks of cfd and mason of health would all report to weis as the chief em & ps officer. weis would be reporting to himself. odd, true, and a real joke!
it sounds confusing, and orozco and mason would probably leave before really reporting to weis, but cpd superintendent and chief em & ps officer are the 2 positions filled by weis. weis is not, and never has been, the head of oemc. people get confused with the head position at oemc and the chief of em & ps officer position because they both have emergency management in the title, but they are technically seperate and distinct with the head of oemc reporting to the chief em & ps officer.
so you are wrong when you say weis had 1 of his 2 positions taken away from him. orozco being the head of oemc did not take a position away from weis. got it?
5/22/2009 02:06:00 PM
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you're right 'til the end....shortshanks took the chief emergency officer position's responsibilities (which Trotter had in the made up position) away from j-fed and gave them to Orozco (just without the pay); if there's an incident that needs cpd, cfd, oemc, health etc., it's Orozco who's responsible for coordinating, no longer Weis.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
The civilians are the ones who, for years, have been picking up the slack for a shortage of sworn officers.
Civilians picking up the shortage for sworn police are you a moron
5/21/2009 05:40:00 PM
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I remember back in the 80's when they civilianized the timekeepers job. It took all of two years and lo and behold you then had a civilian timekeeper + a po to help them caise they couldn't get the job done right. Still can't!
you're right 'til the end....shortshanks took the chief emergency officer position's responsibilities (which Trotter had in the made up position) away from j-fed and gave them to Orozco (just without the pay); if there's an incident that needs cpd, cfd, oemc, health etc., it's Orozco who's responsible for coordinating, no longer Weis.
5/22/2009 10:26:00 PM
ah, but there is where you are wrong! That is the beauty of the whole thing. trotter was never to be in charge of an incident. cpd, cfd, oemc and health all ultimately reported to him, but he was never to be in charge of an incident. It was always either oemc or cfd, depending on the type of incident. trotter was in charge of the after-incident coordination and compilation of the final report to the mayor. he was the boss, but never as an on scene boss. at least he and the mayor were smart enough to keep him out of the way while the shit was jumping. he was the boss, but he wasn't the boss. get it?
jumping to present day, the responsibilities might have gone to orozco, but weis still has both positions, superintendent of cpd and chief em & ps officer. technically, he HAS NOT lost one of his two jobs. he might have lost the headaches, but he has not lost the job.
everything our department does is legit.
Just heard from a representative from supervisors union that 3 high-ranking exempt members who are close to retirement and who only achieved the rank of lieutenant want their hundreds of overtime hours to be cashed in at captain's scale. Unbelievable. Don't they have enough.
Anonymous said...
WOW !!!
trickle up pain.
now the bosses can join the ranks in just not giving a fuck anymore.
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Just remember this costs each exempt about $10,000 and it decreases their pensions, and considering most of them are in their last 4 years you can expect them to be pissed. Welcome to our world!!!!!
5/21/2009 01:30:00 PM
It will not decrease their pension one iota, if they retire within the next 48 months. Remember your pension is based on the best 48 mnonths over the last 10 years.
It will not decrease their pension one iota, if they retire within the next 48 months. Remember your pension is based on the best 48 mnonths over the last 10 years.
5/23/2009 04:31:00 PM
Exempt pensions don't work like ours do. They're gold braid bill gets them the last 3 years at the highest pay grade.
Exempt pensions don't work like ours do. They're gold braid bill gets them the last 3 years at the highest pay grade.
5/24/2009 09:21:00 PM
Although I hesitate to speak in absolutes, you are mistaken. All sworn employees of the Police Department are treated equally when it comes to the pension. The rule is best 48 months out of the last 120 months. No changes for exempt personnel. It is covered in 40 ILCS 5/5, and can only be amended by the State Legislature. One of the problems with a lot of you guys is that you hear something and accept it as gospel, without taking the time to verify.
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