Two Years Probation
Abbate sentenced. And if we recall correctly, receives the exact same sentence that Cozzi got prior to his being jackpotted by J-Fed:
A Chicago police officer was sentenced to two years probation today for pummeling a woman who was tending bar.
Anthony Abbate -- who declined to say anything to the judge before he was sentenced -- could have gotten up to five years for beating Karolina Obrycka in February of 2007. The attack was captured by the bar's security camera and the video was shown around the world.
Judge John Fleming said he decided against jail time, explaining he did not believe the crime was serious enough and that throwing Abbate in prison would not be a deterrent to others.
And the police haters are out in force at the various media links. Click on them at your own risk.
And any civilians or media types looking to start shit, just about every single reader here deplored Abbate's actions and called for his firing. We also uncovered numerous instances where Abbate should have been fired before or never even hired. It was the political structure that permitted this aberration to occur, not the men and women who serve and protect honorably day in and day out.
And any civilians or media types looking to start shit, just about every single reader here deplored Abbate's actions and called for his firing. We also uncovered numerous instances where Abbate should have been fired before or never even hired. It was the political structure that permitted this aberration to occur, not the men and women who serve and protect honorably day in and day out.
Labels: scandals
posted by SCC at 3:11 PM
170 Comments:
Well said. I appreciate you not defending Abbatte- the Mayor & the system are the problem.
And as for the Judge, this is exactly the problem with the system.
I advise all coppers to watch this Judge for continuing corruption.
More than a fair sentence on something that should not have been a felony in the first place. Maybe Jody will sick the feds on him now. Since he probably doesnt like it.
"And any civilians or media types looking to start shit, just about every single reader here deplored Abbate's actions and called for his firing. We also uncovered numerous instances where Abbate should have been fired before or never even hired. It was the political structure that permitted this aberration to occur, not the men and women who serve and protect honorably day in and day out"
Well said SCC.
To the public: Instead of torturing us any further with your police brutality rhetoric and disrupting a bunch of 60+ yr old retired PO's having a reunion, why don't you gather at City Hall and ask the mayor a few questions about missing money, nepotism, taxes, selling off city properties without taxpayers consent..... I forgot, you can't. He's still hiding out.
This actually make me feels worse about J-Pud’s screwing over of Cozzi.
Off Topic but will be read here-
Spoke to a Dept of Revenue agent today(van driver). He related to me that there is talk about DOR agents driving thru Station lots looking for Vehicle Violations.
The agent told me that the rank and file agents are resisting this that they feel if the shit hits the fan the CPD will rescue them.
This agent was familiar with the CPD since a family member recently retired from 003 after 30 yrs. He also added that the inspectors are going to be going back to the districts since we are short.
Seems plausible-
Back on topic- Screw T/A he was a stroke in 011
Its a bit ironic how people are calling for the judge in the Abbate case to be taken off the stand. However, these same people will express no outrage when a gangbanger with a gun is only given probation by a judge.
Also, they want to talk about penalties not being stiff enough, lets take a look at the NFL scumbag Dante Stallworth. He only got 30 days for a killing a person while DUI.
Amen. Any one bad cop makes 100 good cops look bad. Attacking the clout/political system that lets guys like this get on the job and then act like they are above the law is more complicated than most media can handle, but it would also involve a change in Chicago neighborhood culture. There are a lot of . . . enablers out there.
I wish Fleming had given him jail time, even just a day, to make a point and shut up the folks who will now pile on.
We all know what Abbate did was wrong and he received his punishment. Think of all of the domestics that we/me have been to where some guy beat his girl so bad and the ASA's would not approve felony charges. You police haters can hate all you want but you could never do what we do and deal with all of the crap that we deal with on an everyday basis. Police haters, go get a real job instead of trying to police the police that you know nothing about!
Tell it to the Judge !!!!!!!!
probation seemed about the right outcome.
CAN WE ROLL THE VIDEO 1 MORE TIME 4 OLD TIME SAKE. THOSE DEVASTATING GROUND AND POUND TECHNIQUES WERE LAUGHABLE AT BEST.
WHAT R THE ODDS OF HIM GETTING HIS JOB BACK?
WHAT R THE ODDS OF J-FED PULLING A RABBIT OUT OF HIS ASS!
Deputy "I got your back" Dugan was out trying to motivate the troops again. I really think the days of the bosses throwing us under the bus to advance their our agendas is over. Just in time for the crime spike that is coming. The old leather driving gloves are being dusted off, second set of cuffs added to my belt, combat boots shined and my ankle is feeling the wait of my auxilary weapon. I am ready to get back out there, fight crime and be the police.
Please remember me at the benifit you will be throwing a year from now when I get sued and seperated for doing my job. Remember, Dugan and Wies got your back.
Abbate and Chris Brown ought to go on the road together. They could call their show "Hitting Women and Getting Away with it - 2009".
Just a reminder: P.O. Valadez's murderers got probation for Agg UUW by Felon.
Wow. Same thing. Different results. Wonder if Weis will be calling the Feds now?
And any civilians or media types looking to start shit, just about every single reader here deplored Abbate's actions and called for his firing. We also uncovered numerous instances where Abbate should have been fired before or never even hired. It was the political structure that permitted this aberration to occur, not the men and women who serve and protect honorably day in and day out.
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SCC - you have such a way with words. You have expressed my exact thoughts perfectly & I'm sure the thoughts of many CPD. Thank you.
Nice 'distance-disclaimer,' SCC.
JOE DEE said...
Effective today shooting victims and offenders are to exchange information and do a report in the district of occurance.
6/22/2009 06:16:00 PM
LOL !!!
I agree it wasn't Agg Bat but he still is a jagoff for what he did.....
The sentence seems fair to me.
Would a civilian drunk have gotten a jail sentence?
Abbate is a turd. Flush him outta the department and let's deal with the other issues we have. Also it would be nice to enforce the rules on hiring so a drunk with a recent DUI isn't hired again like turd-boy was.
I can recommend a new career for Anthony though.
Perhaps WLUP can do some nostalgia based commercials.
Abate should be lucky he got off so easily but the case should now be put to rest. Let's hope so. He was not on duty. I was listening to the radio/WBBM-AM today and J-Fraud was saying how he was disappointed in the sentence. What a little punk. Abate should be lucky that he was off duty or he probably would have been COZZIED.
I'd like to apologize to Mr Abbate for posting that old WLUP commercial.
I'm sorry.
Fired? HELL YES!!! Jail Time?? Hell no!!!...not according to Crook County standards for such a case. If a shit bird can get probation for a gun charge, than why cant Crazy Abbate get probation for hitting a illegal polish bartender, who when it was all said and done, didn't have a mark on her!!! The only true victims here are the 025 coppers who took heavy time for doing their jobs. For that, FUCK YOU ABBATE!!!!
Just had beer with Tony at Shortstops... He related he just signed a 1/2 mil. deal w/ WWF.....
Thanks, Judge Fleming, for making me even more cynical that I was.
I knew there were some bad cops, but I also knew that most of the brave men and women who serve in the CPD were there to do a job--a difficult and demanding job--one that paid less than it was worth.
I assumed that the justice system could, when asked, weed out those who thought of their badge as a license to run amok.
You, Judge Fleming, have now made every police officer that does their job, that honorably serves and protects the citizens of this great city, suspect.
We have no recourse but to get rid of jurists like you, and let the good men and women of the CPD flourish.
the comment section of the papers are filled with police hate garbage.no one here defends this ding-dong or his actions. my problem is the overcharging of this case. yeah, yeah i know some law school wannabe will post the ILCS charge for AGG BATT. i say this...i have arrested DOZENS of victims hit over the head with bottles or sticks,cut or stabbed and beaten bloody....the dicks NEVER ONCE got the agg bat charge for me. many times when you call the det. you get ''will he live'' ''whats his background'' '' what s the extent of his injuries''.rarely do they even come out. AGG BAT charges are mostly for victims shot or almost dead. the facts.... this woman recieved little to any injuries. black eye? bloody nose? cuts? she refused medical attentions. did she continue to work after being attacked? do the other 100+ offenders in bar battery every weekend get the AGG BATT charge? 2 years probations... also. about 10 years ago a offender bit off a piece of my thumb during an arrest. the charge? you guessed it!
Watch out for JFED Tony! He's going to fuck you not that you already have not fucked yourself.
Abbate better watch out.....Jody's driving the Fed bus and it might be headed his way.
Oh, wait.....the bartender was white. No outrage here.
There are so many good guys that never make it past the physical or have enough college, but pieces of shit like this get their badges and guns and piss it all away. How about all the other guys that never got caught, especially the thief, alcoholic, wife beater, hillbilly TW in 002? When is he going to get his?
Abbate deserves what he gets and even more, but there are still too many of coppers like him out there, and too many good guys that would love to be the police and be damn good officers but will never get the chance because they were not born to the right family or worked for the right alderman. Fuck Abbate but fuck this city even more.
What happened in 025 lockup last night ..tweet tweet ...
I had no prior record, same offense, got two years probation. Unfortunately he can get a job where I cannot. Big difference. People are upset because he was a cop, beat up on a woman (total weak bs) only reason he even got arrested is because it was on video. My opinion.
Hopefully the Board can rush through this guy's firing. Good riddance!!
014 DC just got booted. He's going to 002 on midnights.
Obrycka said the attack has left her fearful, yeah, another illegal immigrant...deportation-now!
So now will the Polish bartender be told to go back to Poland? She is an illegal. I thought we were a nation of laws.
Lobby your Congressman to force I.C.E. to deport this woman. She is not a victim in my eyes. She is an opportunist. She claimed that 2514 was told "Big Tony" (Abbate) was a cop. And then 2514 didn't write that vital information in their report.
J.K. and P.M. (beat 2514) are good, honest and ethical officers. They would not stick up for a shit bag like Anthony Abbate. Because of her lies, they are facing 60 days suspension.
Note- If this bartender just told the truth, then I would not see her as an opportunist but as a legitimate victim.
It was the political structure that permitted this aberration to occur, not the men and women who serve and protect honorably day in and day out.
Amen, brother. Keep on telling it like it is.
UPDATE: Re: Lucio. Replaced by John Escalante from B&A.
Wont let you post any comments on the breaking news website
FORTY (40) MONTHS IN THE JOINT!
Probation for a shit-faced 300+ pound woman beater who disgraced the CPD around the planet.
But you just had to initiate the persecution of poor Bill Cozzi for giving an able-bodied mutt (fuck your wheelchair; it was handy for both cuffs and mobility) a few well-deserved whacks for disrupting an entire ER. Most veterans have seen far, far worse hundreds of times during their respective careers--and it invariably worked!
How would you have handled it, punk?
You couldn't send him to the lock-up as an arrestee with his superficial laceration. OC pepper spray and a taser were out. No duct tape or gag handy. The ER staff wasn't about to provide bandages or inject him with heblon, etc.
You want activity? Cozzi constantly gave the numbers.
You are one cold-blooded, low-life muthafucker. You just had to use Cozzi as a scapegoat for your personal political agenda.
Does the Sears Tower have to fall on your sorry ass before you take the money and run?
Burn in Hell, you sadistic WEISel cocksucker.
Should have been no more than one year probation or maybe $100 fine. this was no Agg Batt, she was not hurt and this should have not been charged as a felony, This was all political by the cowardly states attorneys office. Abbate was convicted by the trial states attorneys presenting lies as evidence. No felony occurred here.
I agree with the Judge and his sentence, but Abbate should not return to the department.
one more thing, this will drive the media whores nuts, reverands and other shitheads nuts and I love it.
"And any civilians or media types looking to start shit, just about every single reader here deplored Abbate's actions and called for his firing."
Curious Citizen here, not wanting to start shit but it's certainly warranted. Question, why wasn't this same hue& cry towards firing also directed @ The Sgt & his fellow officers that beat two guys, one so seriously he required hosptialization in the Jefferson Tap imbroglio??
Double Standard amongst the Rank& File perhaps?
Commander Martinez of the 014th District was relieved of his duty. The word is he was sent to the 002nd District to be the the Midnight wathc commander. My question is why...He had great hair!!!
those who hate you will hate you no matter what so to hell with them.
Blog501 is going online in order to provide CPD members with credible news, accurate information and an open and honest forum to post questions. J-Fed asks that you put in your PC# to post comments. This will be a VERY significant blog. Not like that other insignificant one.
Mike Masters
OK, I just stopped laughing now. God this place is great for a gut buster at least once or twice a day.
What about all of the non police department city employees with serious misdemeanor and felony convictions that are allowed to draw a city paycheck, while college grads and otherwise honest jobseekers get passed over due to lack of clout?
F--k the media and the mayor and the local democratic organizations.
Abbatte should have been sent to prison - just like the rest of the shitheads should have been sent to prison for their crimes. But since this is Crook county, you only get probation. Get used to it voters. This is what you asked for. What's good for some is good for all.
Curious Citizen here, not wanting to start shit but it's certainly warranted. Question, why wasn't this same hue& cry towards firing also directed @ The Sgt & his fellow officers that beat two guys, one so seriously he required hosptialization in the Jefferson Tap imbroglio??
Double Standard amongst the Rank& File perhaps?.
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You mean the hospitalization that took place 4 days after the fight? That one?
And the bartender that couldn't pick out even a single cop that was there despite reviewing the video tape for hours in case preparation?
And the fact that the videotape, viewed from end to end and not just the "provocative" footage of the officers clearing the pool table of possible weapons, showed only a minor shoving match between belligerent drunks?
And the acquittal when it was shown that none of the State's evidence showed anything like a brawl, fight, or disturbance amounting to diddly?
Two completely different cases. Two completely different outcomes. Don't go fishing in waters you have no knowledge of Curious Citizen. Look beyond what the liberal media with an agenda feeds you.
Assistant State's Atty. LuAnn Snow
**Remember that name!
Curious Citizen here, not wanting to start shit but it's certainly warranted. Question, why wasn't this same hue& cry towards firing also directed @ The Sgt & his fellow officers that beat two guys, one so seriously he required hosptialization in the Jefferson Tap imbroglio??
Double Standard amongst the Rank& File perhaps?
6/23/2009 07:40:00 PM
Hey, Curious Citizen. The Jefferson Tap guys were not guilty. When "good citizens" start a fight and lose, it doesn't mean that the winners should go to jail because they're cops. Grow up. If you start shit in a bar, expect what's coming - be it from a cop or any other Chicagoan with a set of balls left. Does that make sense to you? Bar fights are bar fights. You don't get to start one and then cry foul and try to cash in because you lost the fight.
Holy shit, probation in Cook County for a Battery. What is the world coming to?
Can anyone say something positive about Abbate, such as a good pinch he made, took a shooter off the street, delivered a baby ? Something nice he did prior to the big screw up ?
Powerfully written, Northside. I doubt you will ever get to talk with JFraud.
I'm also furious about the dam wheel chair like the shithead was a paraplegic or invalid.
REMEMBER COZZI!
Of course Weis is disappointed, he doesn't know the law, but sometime between the incident and today he should have looked it up. Judge Fleming has a lot of courage for doing what he did. He's the one that came out the bad guy today for trying to correct an already blatant diregard for Illinois Law. Abatte just walked clean away. I'm dying to know how much the Daley/Burke/Joyce cabal ripped us off for today when we were busy watching this sideshow.
Curious Citizen ie: Loser in Chicago Style Barfight. If you're not one of the losers, you are the mistress with whom he is carrying on an extra-marital affair. Only an intimate relationship could recall the incident in such grossly dramatic and inaccurate terms.
"Would a Civilian Drunk have gotten a jail sentence?" A civilian drunk would have gotten a beer. I mean a civilized drunk would have gotten a beer.
It's a nice guy finish last city. Only the bad guys win. You can tell a bad guy from his history.
Cozzi:
Military Vet
Decorated Cop
Great Credit History
Hard worker
Abbate:
Should have never been hired
lack of knowledge
money waster at the pubs
lazy
I think people should not be crucified for a single mistake in their lives. There are recidivist gang members that will go free for forcible felonies.
I wish I could tell it like Northside. He speaks for me and a hole lot of coppers. If we told this piece of sh-t the truth using our names, he would throw us under the bus to.
Thanks Nortside. God help Cozzi.
This is the single most F'd up thing I have ever heard!!!!!!! Cozzi gets time for snapping on the job but this drunken clown gets probation????? F'd up beyond belief!!!!
NorthSide laid it down straight.
That about covers it.
Lucio probably got dumped because his entire 1st watch has been working 99 forever and a day...Unsafe, unfair, and shows he did not know what he was doing.
Check the sheets and A&As, everyone is working one man cars on midnights..EVERYONE
This man has now caused all cops to be painted with the same brush. I truly believe that the majority of police officers are hard working men and women who do a thankless job. They put their lives on the line every day to protect us - however, now the focus is on this man as a representative of all police officers. My greatest fear? Cops are placed in danger everyday. I fear that now, their job has become even more dangerous (if that is possible). I pray that an ingorant individual or individuals does not attempt to or actually harm a police officer. Abbate will have blood on his hands.
Odds of him getting his job back......0 he is now a convicted felon.
I am fine with the sentence and see much worse offenses receive less of a sentence daily.
He is a dick but this should not have been an Agg. Batt. in the first place.
Martinez is no prize and 014 will be real happy with Escalante. However, Dugan should find his spine and tell Peterson to run his own fucking Bureau and not worry about Patrol. How stupid do you think we are? Hey Peterson, your kid has got a real long way to go. I guess he can be like Jankowsi's kid. The kid is the son of of the biggest Jagoff in the history of the CPD. You should be real proud if the legacy you left for him.
Why not, "DUMP THE CRUMP?"
If this stuff about Escalante is true, congrats to 014! He's the REAL Police!
open comment to Supt. Weis:
Putting the tac teams in uniform was a capital idea. you rock JP!
O.T.: Now that we are getting all of these Tahoes, how do you all like them? I personally liked my old cruiser better, it seemed lower and faster. But I do enjoy cranking B96 on the radio! Opinions please.
Abbatte will get his. The moron can't even look like decent human while in court.
Yea Yea Yea this BS about all Agg/Batts that shouda been, never been. Come on how many were ever filmed like this? You have an off-duty P.O. the size of a pro lineman pummeling an innocent blonde bartender. Then to have the defendant take the stand and swear to God that this was an act of self-defense and he was the victim. Wow, nothing I mean nothing surprises me when it comes to what happens in the largest felony court system in the country. Do you really think that it as ever cleaned up?
However, this judge came to his ruling, Abbatte should thank his maker on a daily basis.
"Curious Citizen here, not wanting to start shit but it's certainly warranted. Question, why wasn't this same hue& cry towards firing also directed @ The Sgt & his fellow officers that beat two guys, one so seriously he required hosptialization in the Jefferson Tap imbroglio??
Double Standard amongst the Rank& File perhaps?"
Hey douchebag...perhaps because the "victims" in the Jefferson tap incident LIED about their "injuries". Doctors testified that the "injuries" these assholes claimed were non-existent. Funny how all of their "injuries" occurred when they were out of camera range. That was a bar fight that was instigated by the alleged "victims"...not an attack. Stay off our blog you useless liberal.
hey scc off topic but lucio martinez, the merit king of them all, just got dumped as the 014th dist commander to captain in the deuce on midnight, midnights. me thinks signing off on that beer garden wasnt a smart decision huh lucio. anyway, what goes around, comes around. a very short lived reign and it couldnt have happened to a better a==hole i mean person.hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahah
014th dist is starting to look good about now
Curious Citizen here, not wanting to start shit but it's certainly warranted. Question, why wasn't this same hue& cry towards firing also directed @ The Sgt & his fellow officers that beat two guys, one so seriously he required hosptialization in the Jefferson Tap imbroglio??
Double Standard amongst the Rank& File perhaps?
6/23/2009 07:40:00 PM
To delve deeply into this "crime" would bring Ric Flair into the spotlight but Weis saved his butt.
Anonymous said...
Commander Martinez of the 014th District was relieved of his duty. The word is he was sent to the 002nd District to be the the Midnight wathc commander. My question is why...He had great hair!!!
6/23/2009 07:41:00 PM
They found out about his affair.
O/T... Hey SCC Where is the thread about Olympic Day???? Why didn"t anybody say anything...I wanted a "An Olympic Committee Free T-Shirt" to play ping pong,thats fun ping pong and not Olympic quality ping pong........................
My children wanted "An Olympic Committee Free T-Shirt" for running a pretend, not an Olympic race .....just public school children who are out of school for the summer...
But all of these events were beamed to the real Olympic Committee to show how much Chicago/Chicagoans want the Olympic game here...WTF I would have burned a Personal Day, a BFD, A Furlough Day, Time Due whatever it took to be t one of these events and show how I don't want the freaken Olympics here..... Screw Kathy Joiner Kearsey, Screw that "I tied" so I get a medal goof HAM.. They don't live here...She is from East Chicago! Have the freaken Olympics there...HAM is from .....Who gives a fuck where that ass pusher is from, but they can have the freaken Olympics there too
Do you like apples?
How do you like those apples!!!!!
Not defending Abbate for being DRUNK and STUPID! BUT......
Realistically this actually LOOKED worse than it WAS!
BIG FAT MAN puching AT (MOSTLY MISSING)and trying to dsiengeage a grip with his foot ( BUMBLING and STUMBLING) after being pushed by her behind the bar where he was NOT supposed to be!
Well charge him with Trespass and Batery simple because there was nothing there!
The world and nation can be shocked with this video all they want but it really wasn't that terrible of a beating (NOT THAT IT JUSTIFIES HIM) BUT the female was back up and working and smiling and laughing in a later video when the BRIBE came in later for her not to contact police or whatever!
She is out for cash and she should be I guess, like anyone in her position BUT all those FELONIES charged to Abbate for get it!
I can tell NUMEROUS DUDE stories of what he got away with on video tape too......ASA's would never approve half of the shit and Judges are not going to clutter the jails and prisons with BATTERY offenders liberal public no matter how bad it looks!
Just keep airing the video to remind everyone that is all you can do here MEDIA! Nothing more is going to happen except Abbate's mistake ....he will have to live with it!
Glad it s over .... For now!
and fuck abbate always was a deuche bag all third watch in 011 knew this
Abate should be lucky that he was off duty or he probably would have been COZZIED.
6/23/2009 04:58:00 PM
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Interesting COZZI's name is now a VERB!
COZZI: meaning double fucked by law locally then federally while JUDASed by one of his "own" after punishment was served appropriately and justly.
Signed
WEBSTER's Dictionary
The media kept beating it into the public's head that Cozzi struck a man in a wheelchair with no further explanation.
What should an officer do if this happens again? Can't the hospital give him a shot when he is going berzerk biting and spitting at people? Good points by John Northern. JFed is responsible for torturing a decent cop who made a common mistake that did not even cause any injuries.
Abbate should have been psyched out when he came on.
Check out this new website link that was sent to everyone with a department e-mail. The pride video was hysterical I had to watch it 3x cause I was laughing so hard I was missing some funnier shit each time I saw it!!!!!!!http://soa.chicagopolice.org/roller/blog501/
Abbate will be on next season's "I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here" along with J-Fed, after J gets dumped after this summer's upcoming riots.
Oh, and Douchio, I mean Lucio, you might as well just retire now...you can't handle the Deuce.
OT: Heard Lucio is out.
"And as for the Judge, this is exactly the problem with the system.
I advise all coppers to watch this Judge for continuing corruption.
6/23/2009 03:25:00 PM"
What the hell are you smoking?
They are saving jail time for that putz Callahan.
why is the Booger Queen crump-hales not dumped? are the rev-runs running CPD?
Anonymous said...
Abbatte will get his. The moron can't even look like decent human while in court.
6/23/2009 10:07:00 PM
Not Just him, but his whole white trash posse! Even his lawyer looked like he just woke up in a trailer park and couldn't find his cheese whiz! The dad, the lawyer, him - they couldn't seem to bother with the notion of shaving and ironing their clothes for court.
"Curious Citizen here, not wanting to start shit but it's certainly warranted. Question, why wasn't this same hue& cry towards firing also directed @ The Sgt & his fellow officers that beat two guys, one so seriously he required hosptialization in the Jefferson Tap imbroglio??
Double Standard amongst the Rank& File perhaps?
6/23/2009 07:40:00 PM"
Your ignorance is astounding in it's arrogance.
Last night was told before the PR fest, that 14 1st watch had been running 8 cars 99 for the entire district! I was quite appaled that the Command staff would allow this to occur - they were playing with the lives of our officers and citizens. Was quite surprised to read that Lucio is gone. Please tell us about John Escalante from B&A.Will the 3rd time be the charm for 14? Avila...Martinez...and now Escalente. Please give me some good news!
Abbate is a coward and a disgrace. He should be fired. Right after the hated Jfed. How can that jagoff look in the mirror after shoving it up Cozzi's butt for just bullshit.
F--K JFED AND MASTERS.
Anonymous said...
Can anyone say something positive about Abbate, such as a good pinch he made, took a shooter off the street, delivered a baby ? Something nice he did prior to the big screw up ?
6/23/2009 08:15:00 PM
Tony's a great guy. Yeah he made a mistake, but he's a great guy.
It's not warranted curious citizen. For the record you're not a curious citizen, you're a misinformed citizen that's too lazy to find the facts for himself. Therefore it's easier to believe whatever you hear in a bar or on an elevator at work. If you cared to know the truth you would have gone to court which is a public forum, open to anyone.
What Abbatte did was beyond stupid, but did you hear the "victim" after court. You think she is telling the truth? She was not injured this incident. She now says she is afraid of everything. The whole thing is bull shit. She is as guilty as he is and the whole thing should be thrown out. There was a lot more to that movie that was shown.
Can anyone say something positive about Abbate, such as a good pinch he made, took a shooter off the street, delivered a baby ? Something nice he did prior to the big screw up ?
6/23/2009 08:15:00 PM
About 10 years ago I saw him in Dugans with his pants and underwear around his ankles and screaming, "I want a beer"! That's about the best thing I ever saw him do.
I am not a poice officer, though I work with you every day. I stumbled upon this comment on the suntimes or tribune comment page, which I quote here:
"Typical. Cops, being known to be less socialized and less capable of operating as civilized members of society, are held to a lower standard just as we do children and people of other mental deficiencies. Now my question is, how can we rationalize allowing these people of obvious lesser mental capabilities to carry guns and deprive other people of their liberties? In most cases, people who demonstrate a clear inability to operate in a civilized society are institutionalized; but in this case, they're given guns.
Police work will NEVER BE A PROFESSION. It's just another job, like serving burgers or cleaning toilets (except the latter two jobs actually require their practitioners to demonstrate some kind of competence and regard for the law).
Most police are not good people, as anyone who would even rationalize this is no better than this thug. The sad part is, they're allowed to perpetuate their violence, intimidation and crime due to the lower standard to which they are held.
Chicago police, and most of their employees, are a disgrace to the concept of law enforcement and justice. Anyone with any kind of principle or honor should resign today."
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That is the single most absurd thing I have ever read - but the worst part is that people actually believe it.
The men and women of the CPD are among the most professional law enforcement officers in the world - yes that includes the FBI and DEA. And the CPD members do their job every day in a horribly dangerous environment - and do so for lackluster pay and respect.
The people of this fine City, and its elected officials do not deserve the Police they have.
And in the face of all the disrespect the men and women of the CPD have to deal with: loudmouthed assholes, spitting arrestees, garbage complaints, long hours, injuries, public scorn, and yes the gangbanger's bullet that ends their life - there still exist men like Abatte whose crime is bad enough on its own, but worse even still because it causes an otherwise totally misinformed public to futher distrust the police.
I for one am glad he was convicted, and hope he is quickly removed from the department. I also hope against hope that someone (the FOP and CPD seem to not care at all about this) will tell the public what you do, for people you don't know (and who most of the time despise you) - everyday.
And to all of you let me suggest this: the buffoon who wrote that comment has neither the intellect to understand what he is talking about nor the intelligence to refrain from speaking - but in spite of that you would risk your life to come to his/her aid.
And that is why you are better than him.
Thank you.
Sorry for the long post.
Lucio probably got dumped because his entire 1st watch has been working 99 forever and a day...Unsafe, unfair, and shows he did not know what he was doing.
Check the sheets and A&As, everyone is working one man cars on midnights..EVERYONE
6/23/2009 09:06:00 PM
I've known that twit for 20 years and can't stand him. But if every car is 99 that's not his fault. The District Commander staffs the watches. If the DC leaves him 20 people short, then he's 20 people short. What's Lucio supposed to do, shit cops out of his ass?
Anonymous said...
"And any civilians or media types looking to start shit, just about every single reader here deplored Abbate's actions and called for his firing."
Curious Citizen here, not wanting to start shit but it's certainly warranted. Question, why wasn't this same hue& cry towards firing also directed @ The Sgt & his fellow officers that beat two guys, one so seriously he required hosptialization in the Jefferson Tap imbroglio??
Double Standard amongst the Rank& File perhaps?
6/23/2009 07:40:00 PM
The Jefferson Tap guys were found innocent
You cant fire guys and shouldnt fire guys who are innocent
Abbate was found guilty
People today are soft. Example
Daniel Pearl, american journalist, beheaded on video by terrorists-barely an outcry.
Video's of American soldiers, taunting and insulting a few terrorists at GITMO-outcry and protests mostly by the left.
Drunkin CPD cop video, INTERNATIONAL OUTRAGE! TWO YEARS OF 24/7 COVERAGE AND POLICE BASHING BY EVERYONE.
Uhm..screw you Mr & Mrs John Q Public, you are nothing but fools. It's 90 degrees out, so keep drinking the Kool-Aid!
Let anarchy reign!
Although I reserved opinion on the T.A. thing and I am expecting a community backlash from the sentence that was given - police who go to court saw this sentence coming a mile away AS LONG AS the rules that apply to the criminal at large were applied in the same manner in T.A.'s case.
On a positive note, maybe a positive result might come out of this entire fiasco - the public will wake up to the fact that this is the norm when it comes to sentencing - and your police officers see it every day!
You, Mr. and Mrs. John Q. Public, should be upset by this sentence, but not because of the case it is applied to. You should be upset because this is the norm. Your guardians are tired of watching criminals - and I am talking about criminals with guns, knives, and bats who were not afraid to use them, people who pummel a senior citizen to steal her purse b/c she dared resist, people who steal your cars, burglarize your houses...they get the same sentence! Or less! Now you have seen what we see and you are probably sick to your stomach. Welcome to the club. WE founded it.
This decision might have been the most important one of this Judge's career - It might be the decision that makes the public realize that they must demand the same accountability from their judicial system that they demand from everyone else, least of all themselves.
To "I'm Sorry" with the link:
I almost lost my keyboard to the beverage I spit out laughing at the "Ring on It" link.
To "Concerned Citizen":
If someone was making cracks about your recently deceased (as in "they were there consoling the person" recent) PARENT, what do you think might happen when ANYONE started mocking you for showing that you were upset (shed a tear, etc)? I suspect a lot more than what actually happened more often than not...need I go on?
Anonymous said...
why is the Booger Queen crump-hales not dumped? are the rev-runs running CPD?
6/23/2009 11:13:00 PM
Why yes, yes they are! And a whole lot more need to be dumped asap!
"....Commander Martinez from 014 was relieved from command...he had great hair...."
Should the rest of us with great hair be worried?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
And if Obryka had bruises, some were probably from her borracho boyfriend -- she was a "victim" of "domestic violence." True dat.
To delve deeply into this "crime" would bring Ric Flair into the spotlight but Weis saved his butt.
There was no crime and Flair was gone long before it started.......
Commander Martinez of the 014th District was relieved of his duty. The word is he was sent to the 002nd District to be the the Midnight wathc commander. My question is why...He had great hair!!!
Hopefully ighead Tac Lt. RP goes with him, or just goes period.
In all fairness, he should have gotten somewhere between 60-180 days in the clink. All of our negative media attention is directly due to this incident. Cline would not have been forced to fall on a sword. The Jefferson Tap incident would never have made the news. The Cozzi incident would have never been given to Weis by the media. Cozzi getting 3.5 yrs is directly related to this piece of shit. I never heard of the Cozzi incident before J-Fed and the media witch hunt. Lawsuits are on the rise due to this incident. This is not the last you have seen of this tape. It will haunt this department for 50yrs. People won't remember Pac-Man Jones, Finnegan, Meizandowski. They will always remember this, always. It will be played everytime something happens even remotely similar, everytime. And honestly I don't give a fuck that he didn't land all his punches, he's twice her size and he continued to hit her while on the ground, that is what is aggravated about this battery. Think about it guys, she would have been justified to use deadly force against him under the law based on this attack. Does the system suck, absolutely, those two savages who killed Valadez are a prime example of that. But don't defend this guy, anyone who does sounds like an asshole and doesn't appreciate how badly he has screwed us all.
"It was the political structure that permitted this aberration to occur..." -- SCC
A. Yeah, you're right about the "revolving door" for many violent offenders in Cook County; very often the best sit while the worst walk.
B. "Justice" is arbitrary and capricious, and outcomes depend largely on who you know, how much money you have, what's currently in political fashion, and whether or not the judge needs a bathroom break. Overall, I understand that 95% of felony cases are "disposed of" by coercive plea bargaining -- sign for five or you'll get ten. As they say, what don't you understand?
Always beware of a blindfolded, half-naked woman waving a sword.
Anonymous said...
"And any civilians or media types looking to start shit, just about every single reader here deplored Abbate's actions and called for his firing."
Curious Citizen here, not wanting to start shit but it's certainly warranted. Question, why wasn't this same hue& cry towards firing also directed @ The Sgt & his fellow officers that beat two guys, one so seriously he required hosptialization in the Jefferson Tap imbroglio??
Double Standard amongst the Rank& File perhaps?
6/23/2009 07:40:00 PM
Not only were the Jefferson Tap guys not convicted But the combatants were more evenly matched
Your not trying to start trouble?
GFY
insted of getting all pissed at this one case, how about the media takes a crack at all the other shitheads that get the same sentence for guns, burglary, and dope?
Ohhh yes.
The comment sections are aglow with radioactive hatred & disdain for the police.
The unusual amount of media coverage was ordered by shortshanks to deflect attention from the syndicated graft occurring on an unprecedented scale. Also to poison public sentiment against the Police during contract negotiation while he loots the city treasury to prop up his olympic pipe dream.
They're all jaw-jacking about how outraged they are regarding this verdict but on the same hand they're too oblivious to notice what is really going on... kind of like a lot of people during the Pacific Tsunami who didn't notice the animals running toward high ground before the waves hit. The ones who paid attention were able to save themselves. When the perfect storm surge of The Daley Crime Syndicate's grotesque thievery & malfeasance comes roaring up the beach and carries these same "curious citizens" out to sea, they'll have screams of "help Police, save me" on their lips. They won't remember the lynch mob mentality or the sneers of "fire 'em all" or "they're all corrupt" and the like. The same as when the savage heathens are exploiting the non-support and monday morning quarterbacking Police Officers are enduring now. The "curious citizens" who throw rocks at the Police then hide their hands will yell loudly for the Police when their tender parts are being gnawed from their bones.
This city IS IN FLAMES.
The politicians and the policy makers who are beholden to them are scared to death because they realize that flogging the blue shirts will NOT produce the results they dearly desire. They are also fearful because the POLICE being well aware of their unethical/illegal conduct, have been sounding the alert and now a very precious few citizens are starting to say "wtf is REALLY going on here." The powers that be are afraid that all their spin meisters & millions of dollars spent in P/R & message control will be for naught because the PEOPLE are being alerted by their REAL guardians and protectors.
The mayor and the exempts are beyond scared shitless because they've forgotten one very important thing during this dark era... Policemen are damn good at survival.
The mayor, the exempts and some "curious citizens" hate the Policeman for going into self preservation mode and actually making a conscious decision to selfishly safeguard themselves, their jobs, homes, assets and families from ruin. "We want you to be aggressive, we've got your back," the bosses thunder from above. The Policeman hears "...but we will throw you to the wolves for political cover & expediency."
All you "curious citizens" who make a lot of noise about the Police. We invite you to sign up and show us how you'd do it. Come on, some say it's easy. Put on 35lbs of gear. Work at night when your body craves sleep, choke down your food because you've been denied lunch for the 5th time in 6 working days. Go eyeball to eyeball with dude, get hurt. Get blown up in a car wreck then take suspension time even though it was not your fault. Now you got a few years & some surgically repaired body parts, walk with a limp, cold weather hurts your joints you've torn up but "curious citizens" say "look at that old, out of shape crippled cop."
Want to take a walk in our shoes? Don't be so damn quick to judge us.
My apologies for the lengthy rant SCC. Just wanted to let the "curious citizens" out there know they've gotten the Police department they've been screaming for. My heart breaks for the people who really need & appreciate the Police but I fear the day is come when they really need the Police to respond but there are no Police to be send has come.
It seems we're basically playing for pride now. My God I used to love THIS JOB!
to the 025th dist Ranger
Did the two officers on 2514 include the fact that Abbate was a cop on their report or didnt they?
did they notify a supervisor???
If they didnt theyre wrong
60 days is a bit much But they should be getting nothing if they included the info on their report
It is obvious that the Judge saw through all the BS and did his job. I repeat, look at the film and quit listening to what the media is telling u 2 c. Yes, abbate was wrong, but show me what led up to what u saw, on the segment of film that they wanted u 2 c. All illegals need to be sent back to where they came from!!!
Does the illegal bartender still work there, and does she still STEAL/shortchange the patrons that she overserves??? Not defending stupid, aka abbate, but it was obvious that he was going to the register and not to the booze, and she knew exactly what was happening and why it was happening. And she did throw the first hit, which is about the only one that connected!!! Stupid needs to sue for malicious prosecution.
I've known that twit for 20 years and can't stand him. But if every car is 99 that's not his fault. The District Commander staffs the watches. If the DC leaves him 20 people short, then he's 20 people short. What's Lucio supposed to do, shit cops out of his ass?
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Lucio was the commander brainiac.
There was no crime and Flair was gone long before it started.......
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But they were still Flair's guys. So much for Dugan's "accountability"
Cozzi's doing Abbatte's time.
Anonymous said...
"It was the political structure that permitted this aberration to occur..." -- SCC
A. Yeah, you're right about the "revolving door" for many violent offenders in Cook County; very often the best sit while the worst walk.
B. "Justice" is arbitrary and capricious, and outcomes depend largely on who you know, how much money you have, what's currently in political fashion, and whether or not the judge needs a bathroom break. Overall, I understand that 95% of felony cases are "disposed of" by coercive plea bargaining -- sign for five or you'll get ten. As they say, what don't you understand?
Always beware of a blindfolded, half-naked woman waving a sword.
6/24/2009 12:49:00 AM
If there were justice Abbate would have been fired years ago, like SCC wrote in the front post, Abbate was proven to be no fucking good and a thief years ago. Ask anyone who worked around him then. Good riddance, it was long overdue.
I wonder if J Fed will make an "example" out of Abbate like he felt he had to do with Cozzi.
he was the DC dumb ass
==Can anyone say something positive about Abbate, such as a good pinch he made, took a shooter off the street, delivered a baby ? Something nice he did prior to the big screw up ?
6/23/2009 08:15:00 PM
About 10 years ago I saw him in Dugans with his pants and underwear around his ankles and screaming, "I want a beer"! That's about the best thing I ever saw him do.
6/23/2009 11:54:00 PM ==
Ouch.
"And any civilians or media types looking to start shit..."
Not to nitpick, but cops are also "civilians."
Anonymous said...
Can anyone say something positive about Abbate, such as a good pinch he made, took a shooter off the street, delivered a baby ? Something nice he did prior to the big screw up ?
Abbate never met a beer he didnt like.....
Abbate closed down local taverns with uncanny regularity...
Abbate was a victim in this...remember his self defense testimony...ROFL!!!!!!!
He related to me that there is talk about DOR agents driving thru Station lots looking for Vehicle Violations.
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Maybe they ran out of other violaters to go after.
OK, I want to say that yes it did look bad what Tony did. I know the media played it out of control. I worked with Tony, I know brother and his dad. Tony had a problem with the drink. He is/was sick. It's like cancer if you don't tkae care of it early on it can and will kill you. The booze is bad news and if you have a problem with it get help. I only hope Tony gets the help he has needed for so long now. Please do not let this one bad action take away from his work a police officer and the hard work of his family. Yes, Tony did make arrest and take bad people off the streets.
All you "curious citizens" who make a lot of noise about the Police. We invite you to sign up and show us how you'd do it. Come on, some say it's easy. Put on 35lbs of gear. Work at night when your body craves sleep, choke down your food because you've been denied lunch for the 5th time in 6 working days. Go eyeball to eyeball with dude, get hurt. Get blown up in a car wreck then take suspension time even though it was not your fault. Now you got a few years & some surgically repaired body parts, walk with a limp, cold weather hurts your joints you've torn up but "curious citizens" say "look at that old, out of shape crippled cop."
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Every cop voluntarily took the job, knowing full well it was not anything like Adam12 depicted it. Bottom line is if you hate the job enough, move on. For the most part cops are pretty bright and could find other work. If you want to be a cop in Chicago, there are things that go with it that are unpleasant.
Police interaction with generally law abiding citizens is mostly limited to revenue generating traffic stops. You really think that people who mostly just want to be left alone to do their own thing and generally are not harming anyone else don't blame the cop for the ticket rather than the politicians that came up with that sick way of generating revenue?
And part of the deal when you work for a criminal enterprise like the Daley crime machine is that people assume you are not completely on the up and up. Its not an unreasonable assumption.
Why there is not a revolt at the ballot box is beyond me. maybe as a society we just have decided to accept the decay.
My guess is the summer strategy to deal with the almost certain rise in violence is to try and contain it to areas the Daley crime family considers expendable.
Here is a suggestion for a new thread, SCC. How about focusing on all of the volunteer activites that Chicago coppers engage in on their own time (NOT CAPS, not as part of their inside job) to help their community? Let's have a few hundred posts on that -- with names -- to show the none-police readers and reporters that most of us are caring human beings and part of our communities, not violent drunks. Should be a regular feature.
Maybe later we can also post about the cops who have interesting outside activities. I remember one time that short-lived CPD magazine (can't remember the name) had a piece on cops who were artists. It was amazing to see what people who push a beat car can do with canvas and paint. Lots of talented people on this job who have a life when they aren't on the job.
Anonymous said...
There was no crime and Flair was gone long before it started.......
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But they were still Flair's guys. So much for Dugan's "accountability"
6/24/2009 05:11:00 AM
Dugan will not hold ric flair aka "leo" accountable he walked out on his men! He has medals like Patton, but he could not even shine a man like George Patton's shoes!
6/24/2009 01:29:00 AM
Hey Box Chevy quick comment: Thanks I agree 100+% thanks you said it all!
Judge Fleming has guts. He applied the law as it is applied every day in Cook County court rooms. He did not unfairly apply it because of media hype. He knew that he would take a lot of heat for his decision.
If that was my relative I'd want him killed. This government is getting out of control protecting these animals that try to control every thing we do. They think they are our God's putting us in jail for doing nothing to nobody. Someday we will have to fight to take back our liberties & freedom!
Great points, Northside.
Maybe the WEISEL can get the politicians to legislate that all trauma center emergency rooms be fully equipped with a hand truck and one of those Hannibal Lecter masks.
It's so revealing that no WEISEL suckholes will come up with real life answers to Cozzi's problem at the hospital.
My partner once asked ER staff to inject a raging shithead from hell with some antipsychotic sedative. They refused. So we did a handcuffed backroom tune-up that made Cozzi look like he was playing kindergarten pattycakes. Problem solved. I'm KMA and the statute of limitations has long since expired.
Maybe all of the street cops should carry duct tape for these maniacs. Otherwise, tell hospital security that it's their problem with a 19-Paul. Then wait for the CR# to come down.
Cozzi is JPud's sacrificial lamb. This media/revrund driven rat destroys a good cop's life by using him as an example and show he means business.
You could get more compassion out of a sack of hammers than this clueless doofus that the stuttering prick shoved down our throats.
This judge will have my vote til he retires. He didnt cave in to the witch hunt mentality. And gave an extremely fair senetnce despite public opinion.
'Lucio probably got dumped because his entire 1st watch has been working 99 forever and a day...Unsafe, unfair, and shows he did not know what he was doing.
Check the sheets and A&As, everyone is working one man cars on midnights..EVERYONE'
It's not like 014 has an abundance of real police working there anyway.
Although I reserved opinion on the T.A. thing and I am expecting a community backlash from the sentence that was given - police who go to court saw this sentence coming a mile away AS LONG AS the rules that apply to the criminal at large were applied in the same manner in T.A.'s case.
You are full of shit because the average criminal wouldve never been charged with a felony. Maybe the judge was trying to right the wrong of this bogus case the best he could. This was a misdemeanor at best. But since it was a cop this part of the statute that is never applied to anyone was applied to the P.O. I challenge anyone that goes to court regularly to name me another case where someone who is not the police was charged with a felony for hitting someone and not causing serious injuries. And just being charged with a felony because it happened in a public place of amusement.
One reason people dislike cops is because they use terms like "civilian" to describe other citizens. I think we should avoid that "us-vs-them" mentality, or at least hide it better.
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Anonymous said...
"And any civilians or media types looking to start shit, just about every single reader here deplored Abbate's actions and called for his firing."
Curious Citizen here, not wanting to start shit but it's certainly warranted. Question, why wasn't this same hue& cry towards firing also directed @ The Sgt & his fellow officers that beat two guys, one so seriously he required hosptialization in the Jefferson Tap imbroglio??
Double Standard amongst the Rank& File perhaps?
6/23/2009 07:40:00 PM
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Actually one had to question the validity of the alledged victims claims in the J tap incident.
The video did not really show anyone getting the crap beat out of them. It showed some pushing and shoving.
Also, the alledged victims where shown in court to be the aggressors in that case = meaning they started the arguement.
In the question came up about their injuries. Officers that finally did respond, asked if they wanted to seek medical treatment for injuries they claimed yet were not visable to the responding officers. All of the alledged victims declined medical treatment that night.
Two of the alledged victims, the brothers, did not seek medical treatment until four (4) days later.
So their credibility was shot in court.
Their credibility will be shot in the civil trial as well.
If their injuries were so severe as they claim, then why wait four days for treatment?
That is why, in the J. Tap case, the officers were aquitted.
SCC, you really don't think he deserved jail time for what he did? This isn't a cop thing, it's about a brutal beat down. Badge or no badge, he should have went away, something more than probation.
HEY LUCIO...GOOD RIDDENS!!!!!! YOU INCOMPETENT FK!!!!! EVERY DOG HAS ITS DAY AND PAYBACKS ARE A BITCH!!!
Yes, abbate was wrong, but show me what led up to what u saw, on the segment of film that they wanted u 2 c. All illegals need to be sent back to where they came from!!!
6/24/2009 02:32:00 AM
OK I guess that means you are 100% American (doubt that). You have no Polish, Irish, Mexican, Italian or whatever ethnic background in you. But I guess it was ok for your family (grandparents) to come to this country and stay here!!
if the cook co state's attorney would have proceeded with misdemeanor charges they may have gotten abbate housed with 30 days or so. the judge saw thru the smoke screen and handed down the appropriate sentence. agg batt is great bodily harm or permanent disfigurement. the little polish spinner was not injured--- abbate should not even have been convicted of agg batt.... it happened because he was a cop...
Watch out for JFED Tony! He's going to fuck you.
oh the other "Tony"..whew that was close ..but i get to be on top Jodie..LIFM
Why are people upset with the Judge in the case? At least the Judges in Cook County are consitent with their ruling on cases opposed to the ASA office.
What citizens of Chicago and Cook County should do is pick any Cook County Court House and sit there for a week and listen to the types of cases and how Jutice(cough,cough) is being served.
Every cooper that works in Cook County knew this offense did not rise to the level of a felony. Had this been a regular citizen instead of a Chicago Police Officer for a offender, this would of been Battery Simple. I could imagine calling out the Detectives and Felony Review, the laughs one would get, Felony Charges Denied by ASA X at 0000hrs. See the Judge got it right in this case it was an over zealous Cook County States Attorney that over charged this case worrying about an election problem in the future.Yes, Abatte was guilty of a Simple Battery, but no way of a Felony in the consitent ruling of Cook County Courts. Go to Br. 50 and 23 and see for youself the joke this Justice system we have here in Cook County. The Cases are dimissed before the defendant if reaches the bench! God Bless the CPD and Justice for Cozzi!!!!!!!
William Cozzi is certainly not the first person that Jody P. WEIS tried to throw under the bus.
In December 2003, John ROBERTS, the third ranking FBI disciplinary officer, forwarded a message to FBI Dir. Robert MUELLER concerning retaliation attempts against an FBI whistleblower: Special Agent Robert WRIGHT, then assigned to the Chicago office.
According to ROBERTS, WEIS and Robert JORDAN conspired against Agent WRIGHT to "take him out."
Based on ROBERTS' communication to MUELLER, WEIS does qualify as one vicious and treacherous weasel with neither integrity nor scruples.
CPD Area 2 Homicide Detectives have now instituted:
Type A and a Type B Shootings.
If shot, and not wounded bad enough to die, and conscious, you are a Type B shooting victim. Transport yourselves to hospital of your choice, and file Report with Callback Unit by dialing 311.
Ok, get a load of this. Our bosses in action!
After everything that has occurred in this city involving the Police Department / bad press, Lt. Eve M. Gushes and Chief E. Brown of the ever bitter Vice Unit are holding a on-duty, mandatory picnic at University of Illinois that will take place on Thursday 25 Jun. In her words an event that on-duty officers will be carried and or hours adjusted. And oh yes, she says drinking will be OK! This chick is on crack! Or in her words to promote good will among members of the unit. This clown has already cost the city millions and now She and Brown are starting on a escapade to have Police Officers put in jeopardy or fired. If anyone attends this from Vice or any other section of the department and drinks, they deserve what they get. IAD have a field day!
Thrown by Gushes paid for by VICE ( in more ways than one)
the liberal Politics of the City of Chicago are now a controling force in lots of Cook County States Attorneys and judicial decisions, and their weighing the scales of Justice unfairly with their politically correct left wing antics. This entire County should be investigated by the Feds, not just Chicago.
We will see now if the Lefty States Attorneys Office will now continue to approve Agg. Battery charges on offenders who cause non-hospitalization minor injuries to other victims. If Abbatte was a minority or female and did the same thing, he would have been given a 1 month Suspension, and at most have been charged with misdemeanor Battery, and if guilty would have gotten 6 months probation. This whole thing is discrimination in case review, charging, trial, and finding and sentencing. Abbatte is an A-Hole max in my opinion, but he definately wasn't given a fair and impartial investigation, and trial. No wonder nobody wants to do much anymore. The Criminal Justice system in Crook County is seriously prejudiced and hopefully someone on a Federal level will right this case to the misdemeanor b.s. it really was, without the Satanic Local News Media spinning it into the fiasco they purposely created for two reasons. #1-Hatred and jealousy of Cops, and #2: sensationalism created for viewer ratings purposes.
Anonymous said...
Yes, abbate was wrong, but show me what led up to what u saw, on the segment of film that they wanted u 2 c. All illegals need to be sent back to where they came from!!!
6/24/2009 02:32:00 AM
OK I guess that means you are 100% American (doubt that). You have no Polish, Irish, Mexican, Italian or whatever ethnic background in you. But I guess it was ok for your family (grandparents) to come to this country and stay here!!
6/24/2009 01:57:00 PM
Yes LEGALLY ASSHOLE! Send all illegals back fuck them and their familias!
Thanks to the retired FBI agent for exposing this piece of shit for what he is. Google FBI "Operation Vulgar Betrayal" and "Robert Wright" for more details of "the WEISel".
The Weis cover-up attempt was TREASON, plain and simple.
Why isn't Weis in the Florence, Colorado SuperMax or waiting for his lethal injection in Terre Haute?
"if the cook co state's attorney would have proceeded with misdemeanor charges they may have gotten abbate housed with 30 days or so."
...so he could be back on the job and do it again...
What a great plot for a John le Carre or Tom Clancy novel.
Big city police chief is in deep cover for the Mujahideen.
ALLAH AKBAR!
Probation is what the law calls for. The offender has no priors. The victim no serious injury until an ambulance chaser told her she did.
You Blame Fleming? What a bunch of morons. Learn the law. Especially if you are sworn officers. You all have alot of opinions but no knowledge. Probation was the only sentence you were going to see based on the offender's history (none) and the victims injuries (none). If you are a police officer and have a problem with the judge's decision I fear for all of us because you should know better and don't. That makes you as stupid as the offender.
014 needs some "eleven" district rangers to clean up the neighborhood and then turn it over to the New Boss!!!!!!!!!
REALLLLL POLICE!!! and Proud to say it!
All illegals need to be sent back to where they came from!!!
6/24/2009 02:32:00 AM
OK I guess that means you are 100% American (doubt that). You have no Polish, Irish, Mexican, Italian or whatever ethnic background in you. But I guess it was ok for your family (grandparents) to come to this country and stay here!!
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The key here is ILLEGALS!
he lost his job and is basically on house arrest for two years. he fucked up royally, and has more then paid for it.
It's bullshit that we have to answer for this piece of shit, but the public is bashing the rest of us as well. Take a stand people and let them know we don't condone this or any other police misconduct. Let them know that we are what stands between them and the pieces of shit this city let's loose on the streets daily.
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When da Mare heard about the Weis "take him out" caper against S/A Wright, he probably thought "Hey, my type of guy!"
RE: You are full of shit because the average criminal wouldve never been charged with a felony. Maybe the judge was trying to right the wrong of this bogus case the best he could. This was a misdemeanor at best. But since it was a cop this part of the statute that is never applied to anyone was applied to the P.O. I challenge anyone that goes to court regularly to name me another case where someone who is not the police was charged with a felony for hitting someone and not causing serious injuries. And just being charged with a felony because it happened in a public place of amusement.
While you are firing off a response, maybe take a deep breath and reread the post you are responding to - you'd realize we are saying the same thing. I agree that the Judge saw through the actual ramp up in charging and applied the law as it is applied in a case like this one in Cook County - and sentenced that way. If you looked at the case and cases like this one on a regular basis which I have - you could, as the Judge did, see the resulting probation sentence, or a trivial sentence, coming. And I agree it was upgraded because he is a cop. There are no elements of an agg battery here save the rare application of the portion of the statute you pointed out. Maybe we should cite this case in the future when asking for an upgrade, right? And of course, please realize who your friends are before attacking their post. You attacked an ally here...
you really don't think he deserved jail time for what he did? This isn't a cop thing, it's about a brutal beat down.
--Seriously do the shitbirds that beat each other down on a daily basis get jail time? NOOOOOOOO!
One reason people dislike cops is because they use terms like "civilian" to describe other citizens. I think we should avoid that "us-vs-them" mentality, or at least hide it better.
--Why hide it? They are civilian citizens. It's us -vs- a lot of them; not all of them.
Please do not let this one bad action take away from his work a police officer and the hard work of his family. Yes, Tony did make arrest and take bad people off the streets.
6/24/2009 09:54:00 AM
When? Where?
The Tony that I worked with rarely went to his jobs, never backed up other officers, never wrote a mover, never wrote a parker, told Supervisors (including a Captain) to buzz off with regularity and pretty much just collected his paycheck.
The job is better off without him.
But I do agree that felony battery charges should have never been brought and probation is appropriate.
OK, let's be fair. Abbatte was wrong and convicted, he broke the law. The victim was working as a bartender, Legal? I hear not. So if not legal that means no green card. How was she paid? Did she break the law? Even though we are a sanctuary city, What about the IRS, they want their money, have to support all this bull shit stimulants. The bar cannot hire illegals that's against the law, check the state and federal hiring codes. Does this "victim" owe back taxes? does the bar owe employment taxes? The National Organization of Women (NOW) wants to get rid of Judge Flemming. You think anyone will ask about this other "stuff". Any license check go on here. She wants to sue Abbatte, the City and the police department. I could care less about Abbatte, but this other stuff is tax money MY MONEY, YOUR MONEY. Or is it, "if a cop is an offender, nothing else matters"? I can see why she is afraid of everything now.
The Tony that I worked with rarely went to his jobs, never backed up other officers, never wrote a mover, never wrote a parker, told Supervisors (including a Captain) to buzz off with regularity and pretty much just collected his paycheck.
The job is better off without him.
But I do agree that felony battery charges should have never been brought and probation is appropriate.
6/24/2009 10:39:00 PM
Who the fuck are you? Parker and a mover in 011? LOL. Tony was a good guy and good copper. You? Parker and mover? No thanks!
I feel sorry for Judge Flemming. He didn't trump up these bullshit Agg. Batt. charges. The states attorney did. They used a bullshit sub section of the law that states any battery that takes place on the public way or in a place of amusement qualifies for the upgrade to a felony charge. Not the typical great bodily harm or disfigurement guide lines in which even those usually arent enough for an upgrade by the states attorney. If this charge was ever used, all battery charges would be upgraded except domestic. Hundreds of batteries occur in the bars throught this city on a weekly basis and never ever even considered for an upgrade. I don't think most coppers are even aware this sub section exists let alone the typical citizen. Its like adultry, its in the Ilcs book but never ever used. If someone tried to use it they'd be laughed off the planet. Its not the judges fault he was presented with the charge and after the partial video being broadcast around the world, put him on the hot seat to do something at minimum. What Abbate did was dead wrong, dont misinterpet me, but let the charge and punishment fit the crime. He lost his job, his family has been dragged through the mud and now he's been convicted of a felony. Its still not enough for some people. The tape was made illegally because it had sound recorded with it which is a blatant violation of Ilcs eavesdropping laws and should have been dismissed as evidence. Another set of laws most coppers/people dont use or know much about. He was originally charged with a misdemeanor and 10 days later upgraded to a felony, as soon as the tape hit the airways. Typical knee jerk reaction by our legal system and shows they will do whatever they want to us and you will lose an uphill battle trying to fight it. Cozzi, another sad but prime example. Watch your asses out there.
Curious Citizen here, not wanting to start shit but it's certainly warranted. Question, why wasn't this same hue& cry towards firing also directed @ The Sgt & his fellow officers that beat two guys, one so seriously he required hosptialization in the Jefferson Tap imbroglio??
Double Standard amongst the Rank& File perhaps?
Exactly, the same reason why you haven't heard any more about the off duty Sgt. that beat two hispanic Wrigleyville bar backs bloody in the back of a squad car while they were handcuffed. Abbate had no clout/political pull contrary to a few meat heads that posted coments that he got off easy because of his connections. He was wrong but rail roaded beyond understanding. If your not a commanders kid or hooked up with the right people, its business as usual in Crook County and your gonna be made an example of/hang.
NOW Nat'l Org. for Women doesn't speak for all women. This woman knows Fleming followed the law as closely as he could under the circumstances. NOW should get a new lawyer before they make public announcements and confirm their stupidity.
OK I guess that means you are 100% American (doubt that). You have no Polish, Irish, Mexican, Italian or whatever ethnic background in you. But I guess it was ok for your family (grandparents) to come to this country and stay here!!
6/24/2009 01:57:00 PM
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I think the operative word was illegals. My grandparents came here legally.
Anonymous said...
The Tony that I worked with rarely went to his jobs, never backed up other officers, never wrote a mover, never wrote a parker, told Supervisors (including a Captain) to buzz off with regularity and pretty much just collected his paycheck.
The job is better off without him.
But I do agree that felony battery charges should have never been brought and probation is appropriate.
6/24/2009 10:39:00 PM
Who the fuck are you? Parker and a mover in 011? LOL. Tony was a good guy and good copper. You? Parker and mover? No thanks!
6/24/2009 11:53:00 PM
Hey Dickhead, Tony didn't work in 011 for years when he did this deed. I stand by my words, he didn't do shit and all your defending him by saying that he was a good guy shows that you are a moron or a apologist for possibly the biggest idiot ever to put on a blue shirt.
Nobody writes movers and parkers in 011, but did he do his job otherwise? He sure as hell didn't the years he was assigned (notice I didn't say worked) to 020.
He never showed up on in progress jobs, 10-1s or even drove slowly by traffic stops to see if the coppers were ok. He never volunteered to take a close by job, was always going on a personal or lunch after getting banged several times. He was red lined three times that I can think of off the top of my head. I could give a shit if he got a bus check, movers or parkers, but the least he could do is his help his fellow officers.
He used to proudly call himself ADS Abbate, ADA stood for "Ain't Doing Shit"
He is a disgrace to us all and did more to destroy the image of my Department and everyone in it than any single event or person ever. That means Finnigan and his bunch, the stuff at the end of the late 60s and the corruption of the 20s with Al Capone.
Nobody writes movers and parkers in 011, but did he do his job otherwise? He sure as hell didn't the years he was assigned (notice I didn't say worked) to 020.
20?
You have the nerve to talk about 20?
I'd say more but the SCC would rightfully not let the post go through. 20? LOL
There's your answer as to why Daley recruited Weis. He saw that he was corrupt and would play the game. Take out anyone Daley or his co-conspirators wanted taken out.
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