What Exactly Did He "Merit"?
Back when the list for Sergeants came out, it was noted that J-Fed's driver somehow snagged one of the "merit" spots. It was asked, but never answered, how exactly driving around J-Fed qualified this person for anything? Was he extra good at avoiding potholes? Was the coffee and bran muffin always exactly the correct temperature when J-Fed arrived in the SUV? Perhaps the passenger side mirrors were always in the correct position so J-Fed could check the hair and flex a little before getting in the ride?
Now comes this word:
Now comes this word:
- In response to a previous post stating that the Supt's driver who was promoted to Sgt, is driving to training at the academy in one of the Supt's unmarked cars... Not only has this guy been hanging around HQ when he's supposed to be in class like every other person on that list, whatever the reason he is driving a CPD vehicle, on the City's dime, so he can attend training classes for a "merit" promotion is BS.
I read the posts about his continued use of the car because its a freebie of his unit until he is transfered as a new Sgt. Kids, all I wonder about is his JUDGEMENT. Where is his superior JUDGEMENT?
Apparently he doesn't have much. Apparently he doesn't "get it" that he already has a red flag because he was promoted for being a driver to the Supt. Spending city money on gas to drive to and from training is a slap in every PO's face that is in his class. What a buffoon. He is obviously arrogantly stupid. He would rather save a few dollars on gas than earn the respect of his class mates and the officers whom he will be released to the streets to supervise. Too bad he doesn't have that kind of judgement. I wouldn't be surprised if he lacked better judgement in other areas.
We've seen the comments posted that, "...well he's only detailed to the Academy for training. He's still assigned to HQ, so he gets the car..." Bullshit. Wrong message to be sending. He's not being called out of class to drive J-Fed...though according to the first paragraph, he's spending quite a bit of time at HQ during training hours, so we'll take that to mean he already either (A) knows everything already or (B) won't be a street supervisor - which is probably a good thing.
We'll bet on B. This is an abject demonstration of exactly what is wrong with the "merit" system. The message we're getting here is "supervisor training is a joke, there are two sets of rules, I'm better than the rest of you chumps." Where is the judgment we're supposed to be emulating? Where are the leadership qualities? Where is the shame?
We'll also bet that the so-called "accountability" noises coming out of Patrol don't apply in this case. Nice pick J-Fed.
We'll bet on B. This is an abject demonstration of exactly what is wrong with the "merit" system. The message we're getting here is "supervisor training is a joke, there are two sets of rules, I'm better than the rest of you chumps." Where is the judgment we're supposed to be emulating? Where are the leadership qualities? Where is the shame?
We'll also bet that the so-called "accountability" noises coming out of Patrol don't apply in this case. Nice pick J-Fed.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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This job sucks more and more each day, only three more years till my twenty, then I'm done with this shithole.
Daley runs this department, not Weis. Weis is only a puppet on that stuttering pricks strings.
And if he didn't drive the car to the academy, we would welcome him with open arms as one of us since that would show he had respect for us? Come on, nothing this guy will ever do will be right because he is a merit pick.
I CAN PROMISE YOU THIS!!!! IF HE OR SHE WERE IN 189 OR 192 OR ANY OCD SPOT. THAT CAR WOULD HAVE BEEN SNATCH UP AS SOON AS THE LIST CAME. YOU WOULD GO OUT TO YOUR UCV AND IT WOULD BE GONE. WE WOULD BE HITCHING USING THE BUS OR TAKING YOUR OWN CAR. SO IF THIS TRUE AND THIS SGT TO BE IS USING A DEPARTMENT CAR, THEN IS CALLING BULLSHIT AND HE NEEDS TO NAMED AND OUTED FOR THAT. MERIT OR NOT YOU ARE WRONG OFFICE, AND NEED TO CHECK YOURSELF.
"We'll also bet that the so-called "accountability" noises coming out of Patrol don't apply in this case. Nice pick J-Fed."
He's one of many in that class & the classes previous. Why did they promote Sgt.s' in the 1st place when we're below manpower & in a supposed financial crisis?
Another layer of Supervisors swelling the ranks& causing further strain on the pension system. Business as usual...
Further proof that J-Feds "leadership" has been nothing but demoralizing since he jumped aboard this banana boat to sleazeville. He's the worst ever. The feds probably had a fiesta the day they off-loaded him.
Is it true the last detective class was november 2007?
In defense of him the driver is always the closest guy. You hear things - and discuss matters in a confidential manner. I do not blame the Supt. for putting his guy/gal merit. Come on, like the Supt. is not supposed to take care of his guy/gal. This is not rocket science.
I’ve got to say, I have worked with the officer in question in 005 back in the mid ‘90’s. He, at that time, WAS THE REAL POLICE! He had no problems doing what it took to get the job done! Smart, articulate, honest, hard worker… If this is now true… all I can say is “Damn”. If it’s true, I’m disappointed, and I’m sure a lot of 005th dist alum are too.
WTF Pat? Step up! We expect more out of you than this! More so than anyone else in your class.
I got nothing...un-freakin-real.
He NOT was picked merit bec he drove Jfraud. He was picked merit FOR THE SAME REASON HE WAS PICKED TO DRIVE JFRAUD.
My daddy would've never let this happen. To me.
This guy is what makes all of us sick about the merit process. Not only does the guy get a totally undeserved merit spot but then he abuses it and thinks he can do whatever he wants. That spot should have gone to a guy off the list that busted his ass for the test and did well. Or to a guy that hauls in solid arrests all the time.
Where are the Shakman monitors!!! Anyone that was put in and passed over could really make a complaint on this one. Also, any other person that had a take home car (narcotics, gangs, etc) that has been promoted had to return the car immediately.
Here J-fed comes in saying how he's going to change things and make everything legit and then he goes and promotes his DRIVER? You've got to be kidding me. Seriously?
If J-fed wants things to be legit, why doesn't he come out and tell all of us why his former driver is diserving of a 30k raise instead of
-someone who's got shot, injured, etc.. in the line of duty
-someone who's consistantly bringing in felony arrests,
-the guy who gave up a six months of his life to study for the test and scored high?
This guy who proclaims to be so righteous and above all the corruption proved to all of us with this move that he's just like every other corrupt boss we've had.
This is such a shame and kick in the balls to the guys that studied their asses off to score well and lose a spot to someone like this. I'd be f*cking fuming!
Why doesn't the media or perhaps someone interested in running for an FOP spot next election put Jody on the spot and ask him on the record what his "driver" did that was so above and beyond that would be deserving of 30 thousand dollar raise to sgt? I would vote for that guy.
Don't any of you watch "the wire" on HBO? This driver probablly has some dirt on J-freak and that's why he's got to promote him. That's the only thing i can figure b/c there's no way that J-pud could be that dumb to promote his driver and not know that people would be asking questions.
So now the real question is what "dirt" does this driver have on J-roids?
He came in VOWING to change things. Yeah right. This move sealed the deal for me, i officially hate this guy and denounce him as my leader.
He should be dumped from the academy for failing to attend the required classes, p e r i o d.
Maybe that will wake him up that he is a jagbag, and does not qualify to wear the stripes.
NAH! What was I thinking, he will be a Lieutenant in the next class or two.
Who is his REAL Clout?
Is it a rev. or alderman?
We know the Fed man will do nothing for fear of having to lick the mayors ass!
OT....Sorry.... Can you smell it??? Smells like something's burning......Smell it??? It's this city!!! From Friday morning through 0352hrs today(Monday morning) There has been .....ready.......drum roll.................forty six.....(46) Agg Batteries with handguns......and six...(6) of those are Homicides!!! This may be the single most violent weekend in the city this year....or for that matter in a long time...I can confirm the 46 and I may have even deleted a couple....I get notified every thime an agg batt occurs. I counted 46 on my blackberry...I also wanted to say that the strategy to put ALL department members in uniform seems to be working well....It sure has curtailed the violence....NOT!! What moron thought of this plan?? there are units in this department that have been knocking down search warrants and running investigations to PUT BAD GUYS IN JAIL.....some of which may have done some of the shoot em ups this weekend!! I have never seen this department in this sad ass shape in my entire career....I have been doing this for over 16 years and this department has really lost its focus. Forget about the morale issue...that is not repairable....but the level of danger is incredible for citizens and officers alike. If you're a media type....please take note as I am speaking truth only here....46 shootings and 6 homicides over a three day span....we have only had ONE hot weekend...what will happen this week??? Mr Weis...you better come up with a plan quick pal.....the current one stinks....You better make it real clear that the police need to start being the police because this week temperatures will be in the 90's and that means the villagers will be extra violent....I would not have put everyone in uniforms for several reasons....The punks on the street DO NOT respect the "blue boys" / "blue and whites" They don't give a fuck....they do however respect the plainclothesed officers AKA:"Detectives" because they know they will "Put a case on them" slang for hook em up....More reasons....volume of arrests WILL DROP dramatically!!! Search warrants will cease......Search warrants are an excellent tool for putting these fools in PRISON....and in turn ....you get more warrants and bigger fish....did you ever think of that?? If you are asking if I am one of those guys...the answer is YES...I am a supervisor in a unit whose sole function is to ock up gang bangers and flip them for guns/dope/homicides....lock them up and flip them for info....warrants....BIGGER FISH....we have written over 400 search warrants just this year....why would you stop that?? We have recovered close to 400 weapons (guns) why would you stop that?? What is your thinking?? Who came up with this "plan"?? It's a bad one....In this department you already have low morale....and few working officers....wouldn't you want the officers who ARE working to continue to work???? WTF???Mr Weis....either come up with a better plan or resign.....because....lots of people are going to die this week....and we can't do anything to stop it....you can help though....let those officers get back to work....let them continue writing those warrants....let them keep seizing those guns and developing those informants...WHY would you let this stop??? People are dying....kids are getting killed....and what do you do?? Put these officers in UNIFORM ...you might as well put neon signs on their back too. What are you doing? Get the officers out of the offices and on to the streets but please don't take the working police out of the game....we are trying to battle and you just pulled a wrong move....get those officers back into plainclothes where they are most effective....where they can continue their investigations....utilize their covert vehicles/capacity.....develop informants....where these punks are afraid of them....fear is good!! HELP!! A CPD Supervisor pulling for the Working Copper!
Boy, it sure didn't take J-Fed long to learn the "Chicago Way". And here I thought he said he was here to stop all the clout promotions! What a joke this guy and this Department are.
CAN I GET ANOTHER EVENT NUMBER FOR SCRATCHING MY NUTS PLEASE?????
Does the vehicle have a M-plate?
A CPD Supervisor pulling for the Working Copper!
6/22/2009 04:15:00 AM
Hey, Big Sarge!
Your whole beef comes down to wearing 80/20s. It took you an hour to write your manifesto of selfish indulgence. Explain why it's necessary in the first place for most of those units to wear backwards baseball caps, carpenter jeans, and the weather appropriate carhartt top. Don't forget the giant Sam Browne belt and black vest carrier. This ain't your daddy's tact team running around with a snub, handcuffs, and a Marlboro. At least those guys could blend in with working class Chicago. Shine them shoes, get a smart haircut, and be proud of your uniform. Then go scoop up 10 SUBs for the tact lieutenant.
Was shot in the line of duty and was told in so many words by two bosses that it was not "merit" enough to get promoted to Sergeant.
wAAAA Waaaaaa he get more than i DO , Waaa waaa
Stop Snitching !
Mr. Fed must figure that a driver should be at least a Sgt.
Hell, four stars in the army rates at least at Lt. Col.
Maybe when the next exempt changes are made he'll get bumped the Dep. Chief. He'll be a combination, drive/aide.
Anonymous said...
He came in VOWING to change things. Yeah right. This move sealed the deal for me, i officially hate this guy and denounce him as my leader.
6/22/2009 01:35:00 AM
You're a year and a half behind most of the rest of the CPD but better late than never. You'll catch on to Daley soon too.
shut the fuck up and stop complaining..if you want an explanation what merit means then ask your union. its in the contract, they can promote whoever they want....I dont recall seeing anywhere in the contract that states the city, department or anyone else has to define what merit is or means
First of all supervisor training at the academy is a joke! What you learn is on the job in the district. Secondly the only other officers I ever heard of with take home cars while in the academy for promotions were SWAT Team members. I can see where that made sense if they were called out.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/1633122,CST-NWS-watchdogs22.article
Shit floats to the top in a PD.
Its all a matter of suction.
The PP taste so good the PP taste so good.
This post is great because it makes an excellent point. I've been on this job for 24 years so, while unfair, I'm not surprised the supts driver got merit promoted. This stuff has been going on for ages. That doesn't make it right.
More importantly, I agree with the post - this guy obviously has poor judgment. That's what's scary. If he is this dumb to be so flagrant, what will he do on the streets?
I wouldn't want to find out. We already have few bosses we can rely on. He won't be making THAT list.
The driver's promotion to sergeant proves one thing:
There a Too Many Dummies getting promoted.
As leaders of men such as Mc Cotter and Mc Nulty retire, the police department is left with an ever widening number of Dummies in charge.
If this city has major civil unrest during this time of economic disaster, get your families out of the city. This department will have a very difficult time controlling the riots.
What I find most amazing is that most of you find this as a revalation of this administration. Weis came in and dumped everyone with any knowledge and skill to run the dept. He surrounded himself with triple and quadruple merit hacks and repeatedly lied to the men and women in the trenches. He demotes E.B. because he has 5 sustained CRs as an exempt, then double promotes him (after he got caught lying on a job application) and magically all those sustained beefs, disappear. Do you think that giving his driver a promotion is a big deal? You want this to change, force the FOP to demand a one merit promotion per career clause in the personell code and reduce the percetage to 10%, which was the original # for the Det exam, the only merit there used to be, before quotas.
He will go to a cush district for a few periods then be transfered to Patrol Division Administration or some similar spot. Word.
The driver's promotion to sergeant proves one thing: Nobody on this department respects merit promotions. Too few of the deserving get made.
Lee Iaccoca wrote a book, "Where Have All The Leaders Gone?" I have a few ideas for the police department version.
This merit Sgt driver for the "Sup" is just one of many that have created morale problem for the entire department. If this driver is the same PO who worked in the SOS front office for years, then her promotion is a kick in the balls to every officer who worked, got CRs and thought they were doing the "right" thing while this PO had weekends and evenings off for years. While hard working POs were indicted, sent to call back or dumped, this "do nothing" PO drives the "Sup" and then gets promoted. This alone justifies why tickets, arrests and morale is down.
Unit 153 (MSF & SWAT) also has a merit Sgt who comes off as a SWAT Sgt, but never passed a SWAT test and/or has never been on a SWAT job! All the SWAT operaters have to respect the rank, but detest the person and how that person obtained the rank.
These people will never earn the respect of the few remaining real police.
Why cry about it. Promotions are the same everywhere through out time. Even in many countries militaries.
Hey maybe Da Mayor will make him an exempt from Sgt. Just like special k then he can get his own segway and sprint around the taste along with him for company. They must stop for frequent breaks at the command van for some of that free food while they laugh at the poor P.O.'s eating garbage or buying food with their 20% off tickets. This is the real world children always will be the same.
I had planned on doing 29 and getting my full pension but now 20 and a day. I just want to get out and do something else or go to a real police dept. Might as well collect some of that pension before it is gone. Remember when playing musical chairs one of the last 2 looses also. Thats the way I feel, if I wait too long there will be no pension left. With 20 years I will still be young enuff to do something else and collect a pension at the same time. Think about it Brothers & Sisters.
Thirty thousand raise to sergeant? Good math.
HELP!! A CPD Supervisor pulling for the Working Copper!
6/22/2009 04:15:00 AM
Ok ... now ... time to put the computer away and go back to your rubber room Mr. One Man Police Force. I would like to know were you work because a team with that much activity should really stand out and be recognized. And you should be dumped for feeding our friend's in the media all this nonsense which idiots like Dane Placko will take as gospel and use against us.
I think the 0415 supervisor with a blackberry spent the evening at the lounge?
Rah, Rah, Rah. YOU GUYS get out there and work. All of the special units will remain special. Covert cars are great, can go to the bar, shopping, and foolin' around!
Don't forget, the Stupes Driver in a company car NO M PLATES, EVER, gets a spot in the parking lot, while you fools have to hunt for parking, or pay the tickets.
10 years gone, and loving it!
Was the K9 list legit?
HELP!! A CPD Supervisor pulling for the Working Copper!
Yeah that's all very well, but you had your chance in whatever "special unit" you are in.......There are officers in uniform who work a lot harder than you and they need help!!! If you really do want to work, shut up and HELP!
....get those officers back into plainclothes where they are most effective....where they can continue their investigations....utilize their covert vehicles/capacity.....develop informants....where these punks are afraid of them....fear is good!! HELP!! A CPD Supervisor pulling for the Working Copper!
6/22/2009 04:15:00 AM
If a pair of 80/20s is holding 'your guys' back from doing their job, then you're not much of a supervisor.
only 20 years to go... sweet!
Come on, nothing this guy will ever do will be right because he is a merit pick.
6/22/2009 12:10:00 AM
We have gotten off track with complaining about who the merit picks are. The fact that there are merit picks at all is the problem . Human nature being what it is, it can never and will never be a legit process, especially in Chicago.
It's J-U-D-G-M-E-N-T. No E.
the answer is YES...I am a supervisor in a unit whose sole function is to ock up gang bangers and flip them for guns/dope/homicides....lock them up and flip them for info....warrants....BIGGER FISH....we have written over 400 search warrants just this year....why would you stop that?? We have recovered close to 400 weapons (guns) why would you stop that?? What is your thinking?? Who came up with this "plan"?? It's a bad one....In this department you already have low morale....and few working officers....wouldn't you want the officers who ARE working to continue to work???? WTF???Mr Weis....either come up with a better plan or resign.....because....lots of people are going to die this week....and we can't do anything to stop it....you can help though....let those officers get back to work....let them continue writing those warrants....let them keep seizing those guns and developing those informants...WHY would you let this stop??? People are dying....kids are getting killed....and what do you do?? Put these officers in UNIFORM ...you might as well put neon signs on their back too. What are you doing? Get the officers out of the offices and on to the streets but please don't take the working police out of the game....we are trying to battle and you just pulled a wrong move....get those officers back into plainclothes where they are most effective....where they can continue their investigations....utilize their covert vehicles/capacity.....develop informants....where these punks are afraid of them....fear is good!! HELP!! A CPD Supervisor pulling for the Working Copper!
Wow go out and do some fucking patrol. If you flip 20 dope dealers a night do you think the drug sales will stop? If there are hypes out there someone is going to make money selling to them. Get a clue and do your job. On a busy saturday night while all hell is breaking loose your whole team is probably in the station doing some fucking inventories for a uuw/dope pinch that you got on a search warrant. The shit bag will get probation for it or you won't get pc for because it was under a matress and 50 other people live in the house. It sounds like you and your team are too lazy to do real police work.
Has Sgt. Pete (morale officer) Koconis now taken his spot as driver? Somebody check the trunk for golf clubs.
ahhhhhhhhh....... the reason why i come to work and do nothing. Thanks for the reminder scc.
If J-fed wants things to be legit, why doesn't he come out and tell all of us why his former driver is diserving of a 30k raise
30k raise? What police department are you talking about?
Former First Deputy John "Jack" Townsend was Mayor Richard J. Daley's driver in November of 1968. Townsend was a Sergeant at the time. Driving a big shot has always been a way to promotions. Pathetic yet true. Some things never change.
Ok I bet if he were in 189 or 192the car would be snatched up. Is that why MP and LB drove there dept cars to Sgt Training last year, until they were outed. Oh btw MP already back on days in OCD, SS DOG. Its all legit Officers go get em the Depty says he has your back.
Since we are on this subjcet.
Why not ask about the politically hooked up under 7 year big mouth veteran RV who made it from OCD (Organized Crime Division).
Of all the hard working Officers in OCD - JFED picks (with Marvin Shear's (Motor Maintenance Boss)recommendation of course)the guy in charge of changing license plates and issuing car keys to officers.
Merit for a guy who out of his own mouth bragged how pissed off he was because he was promissed by his clout that he would make it last time meritoriously (when he only had 5 years on) but didn't. However, this time he was telling everyone he was personally assured and guaranteed by his clout that he would make it weeks before the list was put out. Yeah we really believe you've changed things, way to go legitimize everything JFED.
In the future please tell these numbnuts to at least try to blend in and keep their mouths shut and not brag or be arrogant enough to drive a city car to an undeserved training for a 20K a year increase.
In the past everyone knows that if you opened up your mouth - and your clout found out - that was it - you weren't getting shit. Now it's broadcasted and rubbed in everyone's nose.
WOW what a slap in the face by JFED to Officers with time on who not only have a better resume, complimentary history, disciplinary history but who also go out and hustle everday, have been shot or shot at and who do
"real" police work and are not considered a "house mouse".
Looks bad making him merit, I don't know his past, he could be very deserving. No matter what, merit was not supposed to be used for anyone not in a field unit. That rule has long been circumvented by placing the unit merit picks into a field unit from HQ, but not a driver.
As far as the take home car, give me a fuckig break. Take it away NOW. The only reason he was to have a car wasto get a call out from J-Fed. That is it. Since he is in the Sgt's class, he is not to be called. End of story. If he misses classes, he should be dropped from the class.
Just where in the Hell do you get the info that a sgt gets a 30K raise? Some of you guys are smoking the wrong weed!
As to driving a dept vehicle home or to work, there isn't one of you cry babies that wouldn't accept the same deal if offered.
The troops are never satisfied. Even if things were 100% there would be bitching. Its the nature of the beast.
If the city was smart, now is the time to test and Hire. there are some real bargins in humanity
that are out there that have the work ethics. I'm sure there are qite a few PO's on the job now who never had another job and are probably the biggest complainers.
Why do you think no one respects idiots in White Shirts?
Anonymous said...
I CAN PROMISE YOU THIS!!!! IF HE OR SHE WERE IN 189 OR 192 OR ANY OCD SPOT. THAT CAR WOULD HAVE BEEN SNATCH UP AS SOON AS THE LIST CAME. YOU WOULD GO OUT TO YOUR UCV AND IT WOULD BE GONE. WE WOULD BE HITCHING USING THE BUS OR TAKING YOUR OWN CAR. SO IF THIS TRUE AND THIS SGT TO BE IS USING A DEPARTMENT CAR, THEN IS CALLING BULLSHIT AND HE NEEDS TO NAMED AND OUTED FOR THAT. MERIT OR NOT YOU ARE WRONG OFFICE, AND NEED TO CHECK YOURSELF.
6/22/2009 12:11:00 AM
You talk about K9, but as a K9 copper when we are sick, then come right away and snatch up our vehicles! Why is this assclown allowed to play "Mr big shot" and not attend classes but come and go in his company car!
6/22/2009 04:15:00 AM
There are 900+ empty beds at cook county jail! Oh well! As long as gang bangers kill each other and do not miss all os great!
He's one of many in that class & the classes previous. Why did they promote Sgt.s' in the 1st place when we're below manpower & in a supposed financial crisis?
Another layer of Supervisors swelling the ranks& causing further strain on the pension system. Business as usual...
6/22/2009 12:17:00 AM
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We're way short on supervisors too dummy.
Hey Carol Marin..Ask J-Fed this question;
"What is the definition of Merit?"
"What attributes define Merit?"
"What was it about your driver that made you think he was deserving over anyon else?"
NO MORE MERIT PROMOTIONS PLEASE!!
And please do not show the newly created tests for promotion to any of the bosses, because they make copies and have special study groups,that is how they get around the merit process...
Why doesn't the media or perhaps someone interested in running for an FOP spot next election put Jody on the spot and ask him on the record what his "driver" did that was so above and beyond that would be deserving of 30 thousand dollar raise to sgt? I would vote for that guy.
6/22/2009 01:30:00 AM
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30 THOUSAND DOLLARS!?!?! DAMN!!! Is there a different sergeant pay scale that I don't know about? Were did you get your figures???
Maybe that will wake him up that he is a jagbag, and does not qualify to wear the stripes.
NAH! What was I thinking, he will be a Lieutenant in the next class or two.
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
Sorry, no LT bars for that loud mope. Not gonna happen until I get made first. Daddy said so.
And another thing. I know what it means to sleep the righteous sleep of the clouted. I'm the Rip van Winkle of the Suns of Supervisors Club®. In 20 years I'll wake up and find myself a retired CPD superintendant. Thanks daddy.
to 06-12-2009 1231 about the comment that jfuck should take care of his guy. This is what is wrong with everyting. Merit should be for those who demonstrate supervisor charecteristics but suck at test taking. Merit should be used for people who have done something beyond the call of duty. Maybe someone who was shot in the line of duty, or negotiated for hostages, or possibly did some type of police work that cleared up numerous cases that were unsolved. Just being a driver for jfuck means nothing. Why should I take the test or even try if I have no clout. I scored great on the test and I will wait my turn because I have no clout. No one takes care of me and no boss is going to notice me unless i kiss ass and I will not lower myself to that level. Promote based on test scores or what you have done! Not who you know.
What a bunch of crying mewing envious babies.
The guy was an FTO and a Sgt in the military, and worked in a bad south side district. Which is more than I can say for the officers working northside districts, or the 21st and 22nd districts. His disciplinary was clean and he is a good guy.
Who gives a damn if he missed most of those BS sgt classes? It was probably the smart thing for him to do anyway. CPD sgt school is full of filler and crap . The six weeks of training could be condensed into 40 hours of class and a month on the job training in a fast district.
Stop whining you hating ,envious self entitled primadonnas ; Im happy for him, he's a great guy.
I am sure that every police officer working a beat car on midnights in 07 or 015 had the same oppurtunites for this merit promotion as Jfrauds tour guide. Remember boys and girls if you work hard you will be rewarded. Now go out there and get me some numbers. Go risk your lives in the ghettos so I Jfraud can promote my driver. He may not have done any police work in 5 years but he knows where the best polish and the best gyro in town are. So all you peons go out and write some movers write some parkers I Jfraud command it. * This is a Mike Masters sponsored post Have gun will travel "Shh its illegal" though
I wonder if this driver decalers this car as income on his taxes like you have to in the private sector. It has a cash value free gas no miles on personal car no wear and tear on personell car. Sure must be nice to be one of the clouted one of the annointed ones yeah jfed really has changed things he has our backs what a joke F you. J stands for JACKASS FED.
This is no career, merely a job. 1st and 16th, fuck 'em. They've won out with their "Merit" bullshit and have already run this Dept. into the ground. Just remember, today's travesty is only a distant memory tomorrow. No one gives a fuck about the 'hood. Just keep the motorcycle noise down for those living on the New East side and the Mayor is happy. Just look at the Goldstars that can barely spell their names. HAWH!
He was originally brought in to be Starks' driver when he was the Interim Superintendent. The same Starks who went on to a cushy city job after he left the department.
Why won't the media pick up this story? Same old song and dance with J-fed. It's a slap in the face to all the hard working P.O.'s that don't have any connections.
30% merit waste!!!! The driver of J-fed, what a waste of a merit spot. The guy already made Sgt's pay and when was the last time he worked the street???????? Taking these spots from guys who actually studied hard and did their time on the street is such bad taste.
Prior to the Merit selection process Wiess had a meeting with the exempts. At that meeting he told the exempts to select and this is a quote "middle of the road" police officers for promotion.
The reason for this is again this is Wiess logic,the working police will bitch for a few days and go back to work, and the dogs were not going to do anything anyway.
This is a true story.
When we start feeding on each other, it's over.
What's next?
"P.O. X went out of the district for lunch. I seen him with by very own eyes I did. He was at the diner on Z and Y street at 4 PM on Saturday."
"Sgt. D bought a pair of reading glasses from the Walmart outside the city. I seen him I did with my very own eyes. He was at T and P street at 9 AM on Monday."
Then, it won't be long until you read this:
"That shooting that happened in G District. The one that's on the news. I was there. I seen it I did with my very own eyes, only I did'nt see that gun. Of course, I wasn't that close, but that P.O. he always goes down on a personal when there's a traffic accident. I hate that P.O."
If it's not over yet, we're closer to the end than we are to the beginning. Too many rats on this ship.
From Daley on down, all these merit boys ever did was being born to the right family, while others more deserving never get anywhere. But life isn't about deserve, especially in this city.
Fuck you merit boy, your only accomplishment in life has been being a complete suckhole.
In defense of him the driver is always the closest guy. You hear things - and discuss matters in a confidential manner. I do not blame the Supt. for putting his guy/gal merit. Come on, like the Supt. is not supposed to take care of his guy/gal. This is not rocket science.
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Employees that have lots of face time with the boss always have a leg up when it comes to promotion and raise time. Just the way things work.
I’ve got to say, I have worked with the officer in question in 005 back in the mid ‘90’s. He, at that time, WAS THE REAL POLICE! He had no problems doing what it took to get the job done! Smart, articulate, honest, hard worker… If this is now true… all I can say is “Damn”. If it’s true, I’m disappointed, and I’m sure a lot of 005th dist alum are too.
WTF Pat? Step up! We expect more out of you than this! More so than anyone else in your class.
6/22/2009 12:35:00 AM
I don't give a fuck what he did in the '90s. If he ever WAS the real police he would have told Weis to go fuck himself when he asked him to be his driver.
Fucking sellout.
The spark in violence has NOTHING to do with officers that used to wear civilian clothes and now are in uniform.
This has to do with being short officers on the street. This has to do with officers wasting their time on bullshit calls that shouldn't be dispatched in the first place. This has to do with the criminals having guns and just being criminal. There is very little "law enforcement" these days. We are CAPS police that give reports to everyone rather than patrol the streets looking for criminals. We answer calls about kids playing basketball; the neighbors music being too loud; a disrespectful kid; baby mama drama- I want him out shit; reckless drivers that are long gone before we even get there. When do they think we have time stop cars and people? We're too busy putting 70 miles a day on the new Tahoes running back and forth from one end of the district to the other end.
When a block blows up, how many PO's are available to back you up and clear them out?
The media should listen to their scanners and pay attention to how many jobs are in a RAP. Domestics, VOOP, Batteries all that shit sits in backlog. We have jobs that take 5 hours to dispatch.
This city is certainly in a sad state when people who legitimately need the police, cannot get service. The people of this city that legitimately need us are not protected at all. It's sad because I live here, my family lives here, my friends live here and my fellow officers live here.
Its sad. This city is broken. This department is broken. The legit people are on their own.
Stop calling him J-Fed, he should forever be known as J-Pud.
Holy dogsh*t Batman, have you seen the top five of the clout ridden K9 list. This job is a joke.
to the 4:15am Post. Your really that bent about having to wear a uniform? And you feel that NO good uniform work can still involve a search warrant? Please, you sound like a cry baby.
I’ve got to say, I have worked with the officer in question in 005 back in the mid ‘90’s. He, at that time, WAS THE REAL POLICE! He had no problems doing what it took to get the job done! Smart, articulate, honest, hard worker… If this is now true… all I can say is “Damn”. If it’s true, I’m disappointed, and I’m sure a lot of 005th dist alum are too.
WTF Pat? Step up! We expect more out of you than this! More so than anyone else in your class.
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I defended him a few weeks ago when the Sgts list came out, Wish I hadn't now. WTF!!!!!!!
6/22/2009 12:35:00 AM
Pat was the working police in 005 and a real good guy that what get him the job to drive j-fed and become sgt. Everyone goal on this job is to get pay on the 1st and 16th, get awards and end up in a good (clout)spot. If a meritorial promotion comes along, dont blame who gets promoted, blame who is doing the promoting. We have a problem with j-fed not pat.
Lay off the guy. That is what the merit promotion is there for.
IT'S BECAUSE HE A WARRIOR !!! A WARRIOR I TELL YA !!
I guess all you whiners have been kissing the wrong ASS!!! that why you are not promoted(merit). I am happy for you Pat. You was always a hard worker in 005 and a very good guy. Congratulation. Dont listen to these jealous whiners.
I studied my ass off for the test and put my like on hold for it. I am proud of my score but it's on the bubble of making it thanks to "MERIT". Everytime they make a class I have to do the math. (FYI they have only taken 126 off the list.)
Since they now list who was the "MERIT" selection they should have the # on the list they are. I would love to know there # on the list.
This is exactly what is wrong with the "merit" system. How is this P.O. more qualified than everyone else? The answer is we'll never know because the criteria have never been published. Lacking that criteria, suspicion will be clout. Where is the media to bring this to the public and question this promotional practice, I thought they read this site regularly.
A letter went out to districts asking for current sgts to come and talk to the current class before they graduate. I'd pay good $ to any one of the sergeants going to bring the promotion list, read out the merit names, and tell them to leave before the presentation starts because they don't belong there in the first place.
just apply yourself, make lots of good pinches, study hard for the test and you too can be a sgt.
W T F ?????
only an idiot plays a game he can't win.
i quit !
Merit is just that, Merit.Every boss has an option.Kiss asses will always be that. Get an inside job you lazy ass then you can either study or become a kiss ass yourself and Im sure you will still complain. I cant believe that there are so many whinny ass people on this job that cant find anything better to do then complain. I say take away the college requirements, get people with some kind of work ethics instead of you whinny ass bitches that never had a real job .Mommy and daddy paid everything for you. Thats why this Dept. has gone down hill.What a bunch of cry babies. I dont think anyone complained like this back when people wanted to be the police as opposed to people wanting a job. Thanks for letting me vent. Stay Safe
If I had clout, I would flaunt it. I would publicly snub the "peons" beneath me to show that there is a class difference among the clouted aristocracy and the lowly serfs who must be content with picking up scraps to support their families.
All hail King Shorthshanks! Long may he reign over our city state.
Hey, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
I don't care if he was "a good copper". Do you really think he was among the few? I can think of at least ten outstanding feats of bravery performed by PO's in the last year who have never gotten a thing.
This is an outrage! Unless of course it was me with the car and merit promotion then it would be great.
Hey SCC...
Are they counting the attempt robberies with a person shot in that number?
Put these officers in UNIFORM ...you might as well put neon signs on their back too. What are you doing? Get the officers out of the offices and on to the streets but please don't take the working police out of the game....we are trying to battle and you just pulled a wrong move....get those officers back into plainclothes where they are most effective....where they can continue their investigations....utilize their covert vehicles/capacity.....develop informants....where these punks are afraid of them....fear is good!! HELP!! A CPD Supervisor pulling for the Working Copper!
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Sorry, Sgt but the Olympics are more important. Now go get some vehicle impounds!!!
Danny Lukensmeyer to retrieve subect vehicle, administer pimp slap to rookie merit Sgt., 19p..next job......
Patrol's fleet is falling apart, often no pool vehicles are available. NO ONE should get a take home vehicle, especially the bosses. Their six fifure income is compensation enough.
Get off my back.........you guys would do the same given the opprtunity
If a meritorial promotion comes along, dont blame who gets promoted, blame who is doing the promoting. We have a problem with j-fed not pat.
Lay off the guy. That is what the merit promotion is there for.
6/22/2009 01:27:00 PM
Being meritoriously promoted is one thing and should be given to honorable, smart officers. This guy isn't that smart. He should have chosen to drive his car like everyone else and to attend class like everyone else. That seems to be the point.
we have written over 400 search warrants just this year....why would you stop that?? We have recovered close to 400 weapons (guns)
I CALL BULLSHIT
I see a lot of sour grapes in a lot of the posts i've read, saying crazy shit like he should have turned down the merit promotion if he was the real police. What a big bucket of shit! I worked with Pat in the 005 district and he was a hell of a officer, better then 90% of garden tools that post on second city cop. Everyone complaining about him still having a company car go to hell, how many of you would give a car back of your on free will to this damn job, you would keep it till they asked for it. A lot of people may not like what I write here but it's a lot bigger undeserving merit hacks on that list. Bitch about them some and leave Pat alone. HE'S GONNA BE A GOOD SGT, JUST GIVE HIM A CHANCE!
YOU WANNA BE A SGT? WORK OUT ON PATROL FOR 2 YRS BEFORE BECOMING A SGT!
I LOVE Sgt. Ritalin. Flips 20 drug dealers a night. He literally flips them I'll bet.
Meet The new Boss, same as the old Boss...
The WHO-"We Won't Get Fooled Again
cline's driver was also a merit Sgt. promo.
Retired in 08 Guy says-It's obvious! Just like in Orwell's, "Animal Farm" some Sergeants are more equal than others.
This bullshit about a guy who doesn't test well doesn't wash. If you don't test well, we don't need you as a sergeant. We need guys that know their shit and know how to take care of business when the shit hits the fan. Fuck this merit bullshit. Just an excuse to promote political hack know-nothings over the more deserving.
Kind of like the district secretary in 004 who parks her hummer in the commander's parking space everyday. Like she is better than the real police working the street, the little four year wonder.
Come on, we all know this job is a fuckn joke when it comes to merit why would it change under J-fraud? Why would anyone expect anything less? If a P.O. is friends with a big boss, you will be promoted, plain and simple. It sucks for the average everyday street cop that minds his own business and just goes home to his family, but this is chicago. Can't wait to see when J-Fraud's secret policy group, brain trust, gets their merit spots. Just we knew the names so we can watch.
Patrol's fleet is falling apart, often no pool vehicles are available.
6/22/2009 04:44:00 PM
You must work someplace really slow my friend...Every beat car in my district is a brand new Chevy Tahoe complete with working new PDT and car stereo.
What a bunch of crying mewing envious babies.
The guy was an FTO and a Sgt in the military, and worked in a bad south side district. Which is more than I can say for the officers working northside districts, or the 21st and 22nd districts. His disciplinary was clean and he is a good guy.
Who gives a damn if he missed most of those BS sgt classes? It was probably the smart thing for him to do anyway. CPD sgt school is full of filler and crap . The six weeks of training could be condensed into 40 hours of class and a month on the job training in a fast district.
Stop whining you hating ,envious self entitled primadonnas ; Im happy for him, he's a great guy.
6/22/2009 10:20:00 AM
Oh yea!!! Good for You!!! and how was it? You ass kisser. Are you hopping the new Sarggg..puts you up in a nice spot, doing nothing all day so you can tell others war stories just cuz you know him. Get a life asshole..
The guy was an FTO and a Sgt in the military, and worked in a bad south side district. Which is more than I can say for the officers working northside districts, or the 21st and 22nd districts.
Except for Mt. Greenwood and Beverly 022 is very busy
He came in VOWING to change things. Yeah right. This move sealed the deal for me, i officially hate this guy and denounce him as my leader.
6/22/2009 01:35:00 AM
LOL...You hated him from the beginning, don't kid yourself!
RV the motor maintenence JO is a perfect example of Merit Sgt. At least be humble knowing you didnt do anything but no worries back in a unit before FAll.
Was he a driver "with benefits"?
Was Jody a Supt. "with benefits"?
The question has to be asked.
Big bosses have been known in the past to have a "special" relationship with a driver or secretary, then just by chance, that driver or secretary moves up in the ranks.
There can't be anything going on that isn't legit because these big bosses are the cream of the crop and they wouldn't pull anything like that.
J-Fed came riding into town to clean up the C.P.D. So he wouldn't be involved in anything that keeps moving along the train of corruption, clout, and unfairness.
I'm sure he woundn't.
Well, maybe he wouldn't.
Okay, he did.
He sure as hell did.
Whore.
Oh, I forgot,
Masters, Masters, Masters,
Masters, Masters, Masters,
Masters, Masters, Masters,
Masters, Masters, Masters,
Masters, Masters, Masters,
Masters, Masters, Masters.
If there has to be merit promotions, then one, ONLY ONE, bite of the merit apple. Maybe that bullshit "doesn't test well" flies with some, but it's bullshit.
"doesn't test well" should only apply to dic, as many dic's did a damn fine job as street cops and were worth a merit appointment.
Supervisors need to know law and policy and if they can't put in the time to study, fuck 'em.
Ain't gonna happen though, if anything, "merit" numbers will go up. Shit!
Imagine that an FTO and a SGT in the military who worked a busy southside district. Hmmmmm. Yes, I think I know a few of those who never took an inside job. They're still slugging away. Don't you get it? He's FLAUNTING IT with that car. That's what makes him an asswipe.
FELIPE FROM 020 A SGT? WHAT THE HELL. HE ADVISES CITIZENS TO OBTAIN CRS AGAINST COPPERS!!! BAD NEWS PROMOTIONS.
PS... IF YOU THINK THAT WAS BAD, WAIT TIL HE SPARS THE HELL OUT OF YOU!!!!!!
I worked with him in the mid 90's......wake up Rip! It's six months away from 2010.
Oh yea!!! Good for You!!! and how was it? You ass kisser. Are you hopping the new Sarggg..puts you up in a nice spot, doing nothing all day so you can tell others war stories just cuz you know him. Get a life asshole..
6/23/2009 12:58:00 PM
Take your own "get a life" advice you whiny hating little assmuncher, you're the one bitching about some stripes, not me!!!
Now plant your punk ass back on that barstool and beat your chest to that fat toothless two am date about your honorable mention and your real policing on the mean streets of 19, 20,23,...
"What a big bucket of shit! I worked with Pat in the 005 district and he was a hell of a officer, better then 90% of garden tools that post on second city cop."
6/22/2009 05:56:00 PM
Umm you must be a garden tool because you don't get that your buddy has poor judgment to flaunt his position and favors done to him in front everyone who didn't get put in by the boss - and you must be a garden tool if you're posting on what you call a site for garden tools. No get thee gone from this site you hoe (garden tool).
Now plant your punk ass back on that barstool and beat your chest to that fat toothless two am date about your honorable mention and your real policing on the mean streets of 19, 20,23,...
6/24/2009 01:50:00 AM
OK, Big Hero Ghetto Copper, last time I looked there were openings in all those districts. Quit bitching about working in a shithole and bid out.
I'll let you in on a secret, myself and many of the others who work up north used to work in the ghetto, did our time and got the fuck out.
Quit trying to portray yourself as a martyr because you either can't bid out or are too stupid to bid out of a shitty district.
SILLY SILLY SILLY
NO MATTER WHAT IS SAID HERE, ALL REMAINS THE SAME. WHINERS WILL BE WHINERS, DOGS WILL BE DOGS AND THE THOSE WHO MAKE IT OUT OF PATROL INTO A UNIT ARE THE ONES CONSIDERED VERY LUCKY.
NOBODY WANTS TO HERE THE BEAT GUY CRY UNTIL HE CAN'T CRY NO MORE. BAD JUDGEMENT IS MADE BY MANY DAY IN AND DAY OUT, JUST LOOK AROUND.
ONE89
just like Capt. J.R-D, 019, merit her whole career. 'Twas easier to give all bosses a 'wash' than to study.
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