Wait a Minute....
A CTA employee who contracted Legionnaires' disease died over the weekend, officials said today.
Robert Pierce, 37, a CTA electrician who worked most recently at CTA facilities at Midway Airport and at another Southwest Side location, died Sunday at Edward Hospital in Naperville, according to the DuPage County coroner's office.
They said no autopsy will be performed on Pierce, of the 1700 block of Hidden Oaks Court in Plainfield, who died of pneumonia that he developed as a complication to Legionnaires' disease.
Wait a minute...there it is again!
- They said no autopsy will be performed on Pierce, of the 1700 block of Hidden Oaks Court in Plainfield,
A CTA employee? Living in Plainfield? Hmmmmm.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
68 Comments:
Um, CTA employees are not required to reside in the city. You did know that didn't you?
Sorry SCC But I believe that CTA employees are allowed to live where they please
A CTA employee? Living in Plainfield? Hmmmmm.
If you didn't know CTA & CHA employees don't have to live in the city then you are very late to the game.
Apparently CTA is not owned/operated by the City of Chicago and as such it's employees aren't required to live in city. That's the same way they get around paying time and a half when we work cta because it's technically not working for the city.
I think you misunderstood...
I thought I heard them say 1700 West Oak by the BB Court and Playing Field in CHICAGO...
Oh wait, he's deceased. It doesn't really matter any more. R I P Bob.
SCC, I believe CTA employees do not have a residency requirement, since they are funded by the State
Who cares! I live in the city but I'm not gonna hate or rat out on other city employees that don't live here. It's a risk they take and if they get caught, o well, they know the consequences.
Come on, I don't have much time on the job and even I know CTA is an independent agency. It's employees are not City of Chicago employees and get to live where they want like normal people. No story here.
cta employee don't have to live in chicago, but area that cta services.
-former CTA worker
CTa employees dont have residency requirements. Next time you do a traffic crash involving a bus notice the drivers address. They live all over!
CTA employees don't have to live in the city....been that way for years.
My understanding is that CTA tradesmen do not have to live-in.
White-collar and management types do.
CTA employees don't have a residency requirement. Many live in Indiana.
Notwithstanding the residency issue, please remember this is a tragedy for his family. Incidentally, his wife's parents are BOTH retired PO's
Nothwithstanding the residency issue, please remember this is a tragedy for his family. Incidentally, his in-laws are BOTH retired PO's.
cta employees dont have to live in the city...they are considered a state goverment agency.
Yeah. But what about the "no autopsy" part?
CTA employees have to live in the CTA "service area". They are not required to live in the city.
The rule is relatively recent.
Prior to that they could live ANYWHERE.
The CTA services a large number of suburbs with their bus and train routes.
So endeth the lesson.
PS
What are the odds on Jody Weis being Superintendent at the end of this year?
CTA employees are not City of Chicago employees. They are not on the city's payroll. There is no residency requirement for CTA employees. This is nothing new. I thought you knew that SCC.
Just playing devil's advocate here:
> The CPD Accepts state and Federal money - does that mean we can live anywhere like CTA people do?
> According to the last chase that made the news, our service area extends to Elgin Toll Plaza.
> Same thing for dozens of Search Warrants served outside the corporate boundaries.
I'm just saying...
They are not city employees so write them tickets for running red lights. What am I talking fuck daly no revenue for you.
"The CPD Accepts state and Federal money - does that mean we can live anywhere like CTA people do?"
I think the requirement makes sense for CPD. If there's a major incident, riot, etc. in the city and a bunch of officers are needed, having them come in to town from the burbs could seriously delay the response.
That said, I still think it should be an option for some officers. Maybe give guys and gals with more than X years on the force the option to live in a neighboring burb.
The south suburbs are a haven for CTA employees.
FYI,
This man is the son in law of two (2) retired Chicago Police Officers.
Knock off the B.S.
"Wait a Minunte.... "
SCC, it is DEFINITELY time for a furlough! "That's an order!"
CTA Employees are not required to live in the city. It's not owned nor operated by the City
CTA, Park District, CHA and Board of Education are NOT City of Chicago employees.
They have to live within Crook County
you all are getting your panties in a bunch about CTA not having to live in the city.
the important thing is this disease this guy died from. he was supposedly working on an old ass air conditioning system which had run in some time, when it kicked on it threw off all that mold and bacteria getting this guy sick thus killing him
The requirement for an autopsy is situational. If he was in the hospital or under a physician's care for more than 24 hours with a specific diagnosis there is no requirment.
Less than 24 hours or under suspicious circumstances is different.
ME in another state
Just for information the CTA electrician who who died
after being exposed to Legionarries disease at work, was allowed to live outside the city as are all trade unions CTA employees per contract. This was a 37 year old healthy man who was our very much loved son-in-law. His name is Robert M. Pierce.
Thank you,
Retired 1st District Tactical Lieutenant Gary Szparkowski and
Retired Officer Debra Szparkowski
"That's the same way they get around paying time and a half when we work cta because it's technically not working for the city."
No, they get around paying time and a half because people keep signing up at straight time! No one to blame but ourselves for this, sorry.
Most of the cta iron workers live in indiana and get as much overtime as they want! All the tax dollars are spent where i spend mine in Indiana, cheaper taxes and shortshanks cannot steal more of "my money"!
CTA employees aren't city employees. The CTA isn't owned by the city it just uses the name. That is why they have to pay the city to pay us when we work special.
CTA employees are required to reside in the CTA service area, which does not include Plainfield.
The service area includes just about all the inner suburbs, but not areas beyond the reach of CTA buses and trains.
So why are cops and teachers forced to live in this overpriced going to be Detroit city?
Doesn't J-fed still live in Florida?
Just a little note on this disease.
This CTA guy probably caught it at home. Legionnaires disease is often caused by fecal bacteria being transmitted into the air. It can be deadly and it used to happen quite often on large cruise ships making tons of people sick.
For your own info, you should check where your humidifier/air conditioner condensation drains to. If it drains into your waste stack, that can be a problem that leads to this disease. The fecal bacteria can grow back into your humidifier and then get blown into your home. Make sure your humidifier/air conditioner drains into an open floor drain or a slop sink instead of a waste stack.
cta doesnt have to live in city
Why no autopsy?
CTA employees are NOT subjected to residency conditions.
And just for good measure, he no longer lives in Plainfield...he no longer LIVES anywhere!
I'll be here all week. Try the veal.
fed $$$ live where u won't
CTA employees don't have to live inside the city limits. Their management people are required to live in the "service area". But union employees can live anywhere they want to live. Unless that has changed in the last 2 yrs. Even if it has changed people would be grandfather out of the requirement.
this guy is sparkeys son in law from 001 so maybe we can all be a little sympathetic right now
On Ch.7, news today at 1700 his neighbor came out and they showed Naperville. Who knows. CPD, CPS, CTA etc. anyone that draws a damn city check should either be able to live where ever we want or all in the city. We know us and CFD is state law. But it should be all or nothing.
Honestly. Enough Bashing. Lt Szparkowski was my boss and a damn good one at that. This guy is his son in law. I understand he was with the CTA but come on, give a little respect here.
Robert was a very caring and loving individual. He was allowed to live outside of the city like any other CTA tradesman. He was very proud to be part of a CPD Family. He had great respect for our job. Our family went through much suffering in the last few weeks due to his illiness and will continue to suffer due to his lost.
No job is safe we all run the risk of never being with our loved ones again . Our daughter is now a widow at the age of 32. Please get your facts straight before you put them out on this site. Maybe the question should be asked about CTA trying to cover this up. P.O D.Szparkowski (ret)
RIP to this poor guy who died so suddenly.
You know what I heard tonight that I didn't know before...this jagoff Weis was IN CHARGE the day that Airhart was shot and left to nearly bleed to death.
Un-fucking-believeable.
And someone thought we'd follow this guy, why?
CTA, Chicago Park District, Chicago Board of Education and the Chicago Housing Authority are seperate municipal corporations, just like the City of Chicago. They are incorporated by the state, just like the City of Chicago. They can raise revenue through taxes, fees and/or fares, just like the City of Chicago. Their officials are not electec, but rather are appointed, usually by the Mayor and/or the Governer. It is an interesting situation, in that each is an entity unto itself, but it is all perfectly legal. The difficulty with them obviously lies in the fact of how the officials are appointed. Clearly the Mayor has a great deal of control over them, which everyone knows. The point is they are in effect equal to the City of Chicago, and to any other city or municipal corporation in the state. Their boards make their own rules, and they are different from entity to entity. The arrangement is really not terribly uncommon in large cities.
CTA employees are not City workers, but as soon as you pull them over they always claim they are.
I submitted my earlier comment NOT knowing of the deceased's relation to a few of our own. While I considered it to be all in jest, I apologize for what will more than likely be interpreted as a crude and crass statement.
My deepest condolences and sympathies to the family of Mr. Pierce.
R.I.P. Sir, Prayers are with you and your family.
If the poor soul was illegal, the CTA would of made it a comp case.
FYI....cpd special order...CTA employees are NOT city employees!
we all sould be abl to live where we want this is the USA.
I think the requirement makes sense for CPD. If there's a major incident, riot, etc. in the city and a bunch of officers are needed, having them come in to town from the burbs could seriously delay the response.
WHAT??? YOU HAVE TO BE JOKING RIGHT??? DO YOU THINK ANY OFF DUTY COP WOULD PICK UP HIS PHONE FOR A CALL FROM THE JOB??? 6 DAYS A WEEK IS ENOUGH IN THIS HELL HOLE. PRISONERS TO THE JOB BEING FORCED TO BUY SECONDARY PLACES TO GET AWAY FROM THE CRIMINALS AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU!!! A RESTAURANT WORKER IS MORE LIKELY TO BE CALLED IN TO WORK BEFORE THEY WOULD EVER CALL IN A POLICE OFFICER FOR OVERTIME..... UNDERSTAND HOW THINGS WORK BEFORE YOU COMMENT SHHHH-MUCK!!!!
So why are cops and teachers forced to live in this overpriced going to be Detroit city?
8/11/2009 12:15:00 PM
FUCK THE RAISE!!!! JUST GET US OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANYONE LISTENING? THE MONEY POLICE PARENTS COULD SAVE IN A YEARS TUITION WOULD BE MORE THAN ANY RETRO CHECK!!! 12 YEARS WORTH A CHILD AT LEAST.
Dear Deb and Gary,
I'm so very sorry for your loss. I know how much you love your family and I hope your daughter will be recover from this great loss. God Bless you all and I will pray for you.
I also hope she gets justice from the CTA.
SH
Anonymous said...
Come on, I don't have much time on the job and even I know CTA is an independent agency. It's employees are not City of Chicago employees and get to live where they want like normal people. No story here.
8/11/2009 12:59:00 AM
But da mayor appointed the person in charge of CTA hmmmmmmmmm how does that work.
Not an employee but the mayor is in charge I am confused!!!!!!!!!!!!
My condolences to the family of Scott Pierce. Rest in peace brother.
Gary and Debbie, sorry for your family's loss.
SCC was wrong on this point but it brings up an even better one; If the CTA is funded by government money and they get to live outside of the city, why can't fire and police?
CTA isn't 100% funded by the government, neither are the other departments. However, the city does receive money for public safety. If Daley gets a dime from the stimulus package to hire more officers, then those officers should be able to live outside of the city, just like CTA.
One of the city's many double standards, and this might have a chance in court.
"....but it is all perfectly legal.
8/11/2009 10:16:00 PM"
Which is not to say '...is all perfectly right', right?
As for school employees, the only ones who can live outside the city are the ones who were already living outside the city when the residency rule went into affect. Even if you were already employed by CPS but lived in the city when the rule went into affect, as my sister did, you were stuck in the city.
My sister was new to CPS when the rule went into affect and she's already retired, so I'd think there aren't many who are still able to live elsewhere. BTW, she moved to the burbs immediately upon retiring.
Chicago Public School and Chicago Board of Education employees DO have a residency requirement and MUST live in the City of Chicago
I know a cta employee living in Downers Grove. he's allowed to.
LIFT THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT!!!!!
CTA union workers do not have to live in the city limits however, they make with overtime close to $100,000.00 each year and that they do not pay property taxes in the city!
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