They "Closed" a Park?
Two Chicago police officers and an 18-year-old pedestrian were transported to area hospitals after police All-Terrain Vehicles collided as they were responding to a person with a gun report near the Bud Billiken parade today.
Also, police ordered Washington Park, near 51st Street and King Drive, closed about 3:50 p.m. because of shots fired in the area, although no one was reported wounded in the shootings, according to a Wentworth District officer.
How does someone order a park "closed?" Even at the '68 Convention, efforts to "clear" the parks were mostly futile. In this day and age of cameras and video phones? Let's be realistic - even if we had the manpower to "close" a park, we'd never be allowed to clear it. Daley would never permit it.
In the meantime, a speedy recovery is wished to the officers. And we'll see what pops up in the comment section.
In the meantime, a speedy recovery is wished to the officers. And we'll see what pops up in the comment section.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
76 Comments:
Car 200 had her day in the lime light alright. had us close a public park at 1700 ( 5:00pm for civilians), was not even that crazy! But we did get some OT from this cheap city who lets 300+ floats through Bud Bilikan even though city ordinace permits only 220 for every other parade. Politics so scared of the black vote!!!!! Most floats where about gaining political votes any way!!
IT WAS NUTS.
Woke up Saturday morning (RDO), said a quick prayer for brothers and sisters working esp. those at the Bud. Took the kids to Kales on Ashland for "Family Day"---thanks to Kales and Superior ambulance for the nice gesture.
Yeah they closed the park. Absolutely ridiculous. So the people who weren't involved in shenanigans had to pay for the few that did. I know they wouldn't dare do that in any district north of Madison. That's excessive.
She did close it. Thats Commander Genessa Lewis (possibly Lt Lewis on Monday). It really wasnt that bad. I was there and have been there many times before. The shots fired were actually an accidental discharge passing the gun between gangbangers. The magazine was recovered but the offender got away into the crowd.
The park was cleared out, venders were told to leave and families were told the "picnic" portion of the Parade/picnic was hereby cancelled on the orders of Commander Lewis.
Shes either a genius or a former commander. I would say the latter.
The park had to be closed to prevent more officers from getting hurt. The savages can't be confined in a small area.
Kudos to Cmdr Lewis for doing what had to be done - closing the park which immediately stopped the bull shit from continuing.
thought this was to be so much beeter than the southside irish ! sure donse't look likr it to me.
My favorite Billiken moment was wathching Shortshanks ride on the float being the only white guy with about 30 m/1's surrounding him. The 8 foot speakers were just behing Richie blasting some ghetto ass rap music. The booming shit music was literally hurting my ears and I was 50 yards away. And Richie just kept smiling and waving. What a phony mutha fucka!!!
Is this true?
Scc, B.S. Ill close any park any time as a Sergeant. Even closed Ford City Theatre, "Public safety"
The police can legally close a park with the authority of the Supt of police or his designee.
have worked this parade many times, and this year was by far the best--thank god for those barricades along the parade route. many citizens with their families, were very appreciative with police visibility. a few thugs, but the police did an excellent job keeping everything under control. GREAT decision to close the park, and we did it quick, without any incident. speedy recovery to the injured p.o.'s.
Where was she the real police? All I know is that she made commander out of personnel. I love the order she gave out earlier in the day, " theirs a group of males walking N/B from 51st they need to be arrested, lock them up" OK for what commander? what did you witness them do? Are you going to handle the CR# for me. Boy you don't have a clue.
Last year I was posted around 55th and King 2 people that were there with us right in the middle of it were Eric Washington and John Franklin. Look what they did to them. They should have rode around on a golf cart and barked out orders, they might still be exempts. What a joke.
I believe that it was the right thing to close the park that did prevent any further BS. But that should have been the plan from the begining and don't give Lewis credit for that Patterson was in command.
She did close it. Thats Commander Genessa Lewis (possibly Lt Lewis on Monday). It really wasnt that bad. I was there and have been there many times before. The shots fired were actually an accidental discharge passing the gun between gangbangers. The magazine was recovered but the offender got away into the crowd.
The park was cleared out, venders were told to leave and families were told the "picnic" portion of the Parade/picnic was hereby cancelled on the orders of Commander Lewis.
Shes either a genius or a former commander. I would say the latter.
8/09/2009 01:01:00 AM
What are you an idiot??? Accidental discharge....They had a f n gun at the park.....Good thing that stray didn't hit any little kid....or some innocent person driving by. F n bangers all over the place. Too bad for the familys...its their people do n the shit
Yeah they closed the park. Absolutely ridiculous. So the people who weren't involved in shenanigans had to pay for the few that did. I know they wouldn't dare do that in any district north of Madison. That's excessive.
8/09/2009 12:40:00 AM
That's just too bad.... coppers get n hurt responding to calls for these asshole bangers............ Bangers running through the park...shooting...idiot
VERY True, multiple calls of shots fired and 200 ordered park closed. Hope the officers that were injured are ok.
any coppers that didnt think the park should have been closed are obviously morons. oh and why were "administrative officers" released before everyone else at the parade. car 41 releases the scared house mouses but leaves everyone else out there to potentially get hurt?
As parades go....BBP wasn't as bad as others in the pass, actually it look like they had more families participating this year.....and as usual when there's something done on the Public way.. THE ASSHOLE(S) will show up
I think closing the Park wasn't necessary....don't know what this bimbo was thinking about, delusions on grandeur maybe....appears she's a cut and run type person
Why do they still get Bud, when The Irish can't have the St. Paddy's?
No doubt "closing" the park immediately caused everyone already in the park to leave.
All that over a single possible gun shot?
I hope whoever thought this was a good idea had written authroity to do so.
Yeah they closed the park. Absolutely ridiculous. So the people who weren't involved in shenanigans had to pay for the few that did. I know they wouldn't dare do that in any district north of Madison. That's excessive.
8/09/2009 12:40:00 AM
They don't act like fools north of Madison and if they did the parade would be shut down.
Good job GL. You might have clout, but you have a good head on your shoulders and did a good job. (and no, I don't work for her. just a po who thinks she did a good job)
Was right in front of it. Very large group started fighting and as we approached, shots were fired and everyone in that area scattered. Except for us.
what's the problem w/closing the park? sounds like a good move to me.
OT: Henny Penny in 011 just a treat to work for! Blah blah blah she worked in busy districts when she was in patrol blah blah blah blah. (She never said she was on the street, though.) Ignores people who greet her, but God help you if you don't respond as you would be expected to in Kindergarten ("Good morning, ma'am").
This is basic courtesy. I guess she didn't learn that - my kids have better manners (and more knowledge of the streets, most likely!) than she does.
I see a lot of transfers out in 011's future........let it burn!
Sooo Daley goes to Biliken but not St Jude?
from the po-lice man point of view i think it was a great idea but from the citizen standpoint i think she may have some problems justifying "puclic safety". alot of stuff going on outside the park but not much inside except families bbq-ing and a few bands of thugs.
Things were starting to get out of control with savages. Commander Lewis, once she saw the second officer injured made a command decision. One that I am sure she will pay for. But, this is the first time in a long time that I have seen a boss step up and make the hard decision. She decided that the risk to officers and civilians was too great and ordered the park closed. So a big salute to Commander Lewis for having the balls to do what no one else in this department or city would do. Too bad it took a female Commander to show the rest of the department how to have balls. Next step is to cancel this fiasco that they call a parade. Fyi the savages were actually shooting on MLK, on the parade route between 53rd and 54th. Shortly after that a foot chase from the park by GES ending in a UUW pinch. Then the second PO get injured on the PAPV chasing a guy through the park from a man with a gun call. Believe me things were getting out of control and it was about to blow up. Closing the park prevented alot more injuries to officers and shut down all the shootings planned by the shitheads. Why not bring Commander Lewis to 011, we need a commander with balls and some street sense. You can keep the house mouse they sent.
IT SUCKED!!!!
DALEY goes to Bud Biliken but will not come to ST.Judes......
Anonymous said...
Yeah they closed the park. Absolutely ridiculous. So the people who weren't involved in shenanigans had to pay for the few that did. I know they wouldn't dare do that in any district north of Madison. That's excessive.
8/09/2009 12:40:00 AM
Bullshit! Police operations are driven by existing AND potential conditions, (eg crowds, traffic, weather, location, politics, violence etc.). We, as Police Officers, are given the duty to serve and protect the public and if the temporary closing of a park will further these goals, so be it.
I'm not saying some supervisory input, if practical, shouldn't be sought first, but as long as you can justify the steps you are taking, repercussions SHOULD BE minimal.
That being said, let's see if DC Lewis survives the stupidity of the people making comments such as the one above that I'm responding to.
I never knew there was a limitation to the amount of parade floats.....this must be buried in some sub sub section of Municipal code 10-8-330. Bud Biliken from 1929 has always had Politicians in it, almost rival the St Patrick Day Parade for "hog nogging". Bud Biliken's Parade is considered a traditional event, so I guess an event that celebrating its 80th year might get a little considerations. Why is it each and everytime that something that involves Black people in Chicago, the knee jerky feels that "Its because of the "Black Vote" don't other people in this City vote...would it be safe to say during St Patrick Day its the "White Votes", "Cinco De Mayo" its the Hispanic votes.....I shutter to think what kind of votes are at stake at "LOLLAPALOOZA"
We close Garfield Park all the time. We've had way less problems since we started closing it early. All you have to do is tell them to get their cars out. They're to lazy to park anywhere nearby and walk back in.
It's really fucked up when we have our own Monday night quarterbacking.
I'm sure King Richard and JFRAUD are grateful she closed the park as she spared them the embarrassment of having to account for an innocent child being shot.
How many more police officers needed to get hurt chasing calls of shots fired b/4 it would be appropriate in the naysayers'minds to close the park. How many police officers and potential innocent citizens did the Cmdr protect by having the courage to close the park.
The parade was long over at 1700 hrs - Officer safety and public safey came first. And yet - officers find it necessary to criticize.
I much rather work for her than those of you who are second guessing her.
"closing the park" happens at every concert on Northerly Island. The wall which is a bit north-east of the venue is an excellent spot to relax and listen to the shows but is closed no matter who the performer is. This is done in the name of "public safety" even on nights that the super mellow bands play.
Anonymous said...
Yeah they closed the park. Absolutely ridiculous. So the people who weren't involved in shenanigans had to pay for the few that did. I know they wouldn't dare do that in any district north of Madison. That's excessive.
8/09/2009 12:40:00 AM
What an ignorant statement... you're the same asshole that would blame the Police if they had left the park open and someone got hurt or shot. Then you'd be screaming that if the Police had emptied the park, it never would have happened. YOU HAVE NO CLUE what is or is not excessive from a Police perspective!
And by the way, your obvious attempt to make this a racial issue with your "north of Madison" reference is B S since the Commander who ordered the park closed is African-American.
Regarding your comment "So the people who weren't involved in shenanigans had to pay for the few that did", WHAT PLANET ARE YOU FROM? Isn't this how our world functions? Two students shoot up Columbine High School and high schools across the nation bring in metal detectors! Several terrorists hijack planes on 9-11 and domestic travel is changed for everyone.
Its a shame that so few people have so much influence in our daily lives but the minority have always ruined things for the majority.
SEISER WOULDN'T HAVE CLOSED THE PARK!
Anonymous said...
My favorite Billiken moment was wathching Shortshanks ride on the float being the only white guy with about 30 m/1's surrounding him. The 8 foot speakers were just behing Richie blasting some ghetto ass rap music. The booming shit music was literally hurting my ears and I was 50 yards away. And Richie just kept smiling and waving. What a phony mutha fucka!!!
8/09/2009 01:50:00 AM
Sometimes politicians gotta do some crazy shit to keep them votes comin in.
Car 200 may be the smartest exempt alive. She made a very wise move to shut down the park. People did not have permits and 3 coppers were hurt. One with a broken leg and two from the APV accident. Hope all the coppers are doing well.
Lost children by the handful, people passing out from heat exhaustion and several large group of gang bangers representing and fighting.
Car 200 prevented a tradegy from happening to either one of our own or to some young, innocent child.
A copper is the hardest person to please...
Why would anyone disagree with closing down Bud Bilikan..
Hot weather, 3 coppers hurt, low man power, alcohol, children lost, gangbanger's banging, EMS flooded with heat stroke related calls unable to manuver through the crowd and pepole being trampled on while running away from gang fights.. sounds like a reciepe for something really bad to happen.
It was a smart move to shut it down.
It took over 20 mins. to get the copper with the broken leg some help. The crowd was blocking the paramedics from coming through. When you have a crowd that the majority hates the police it's not a good idea to get into shit. Imagine if a copper was shot.
Sat., 08 Aug., 17:00, Ch. 7, news, had a live report about the bub billiken parade. No mention of shootings, robberies, or other misdeeds. They did say that [Harold] Washington park was being closed by police, but did not explain why.
Mayor 'shanks was grand marshal so of course it was one big love-in.
How typical. The in-cahoots media won't rain on his parade. No pun intended.
Kudos to car 200 for having the cojones to close the park, fuck those savages even the good people in the park understood the decision, shots were fired in the park, gangbangers walking 20 deep with their gang shirts smoking weed drinking posting up in corners, it was nothing but a hazard for the good people there. two officers hurt another with a possible broken leg after responding to big gang fight on 51st,enough was enough im glad 200closed shop before it got any worse.
Anonymous said...
Is this true?
8/09/2009 03:02:00 AM
Yes it is.
An absoluting great decision by Commander Lewis to close the park. It was a disaster waiting to happen. Several Gangsters were chased out of the park with guns.
it was better than the south side parade. Thats a sad thing to say too
A copious amount of CS will do the trick.
SEISER WOULDN'T HAVE CLOSED THE PARK!
8/09/2009 12:42:00 PM
The park would have closed itself!
A copious amount of CS will do the trick.
8/09/2009 06:49:00 PM
Yes, carbonated soda does help occasional bouts of indigestion
Being that I worked the parade I believe that closing the park was a good move. Things were so quiet afterwards with minor usual drunks creating disturbances. Maybe now next year the bad guys will know what to expect. Act like a human being and you can celebrate peacefully all night... Act like an asshole and you will be shut down... Good call 200.
Why not bring Commander Lewis to 011, we need a commander with balls and some street sense. You can keep the house mouse they sent.
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Loved working for her when she was a Lt in 011.
Anonymous said...
Sooo Daley goes to Biliken but not St Jude?
8/09/2009 10:48:00 AM
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St. Jude is on Sunday. He says Sunday is family day for him. The only thing I've ever seen him make an exception for is the Olympic committee.
Commander Lewis is an overbearing, not very bright person. She made it a point of rolling around on her golf cart and barking orders at everyone. No brains at all. Her position has gone to her head. She has zero people skills, and is a perfect example of getting a job because of WHO you are (f/1).
"Sooo Daley goes to Biliken but not St Jude?"
He'll go to a parade on Saturday but not Sunday- Sunday is his family day-so no St. Jude... Gay Pride day is on a Sunday and he doesn't go to that either.
i don't know commander Lewis, nut that woman worked her hat off. she was all over the place, and was trying to keep control. i was on M.L.K. drive, and went to the park afterwards. there were many families with children, but the differents gang factions were entering the park from different areas. i am sure they were not there to pass out candy...GREAT order to close the park. we should do this more often. if the citizens don't like it, let the citizens step up and start supporting the police. Also, all these big parades should start at 10:00 a.m., not noon or after. most gngbangrs do NOT get up before noon!
I got one question for O'grady why would u order the gang teams in your command to chase 30 thugs after a fight, WHO THE FUCK DO U WANT US TO ARREST, YOU SIR ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT, AND YES NOW WE KNOW WHY THEY CALL U O'CRAZY.
WORKED THE PARADE...QUICK OBSERVATION AS I WAS STANDING FOR 8 PLUS HOURS... WHAT IS IT WITH SEVERAL IDIOTS ON FLOATS SHOUTING ON MICROPHONES THE FOLLOWING, "IF YO PRESIDENT IS BLACK SCREAM" "IF YO PRESIDENT IS NOT WHITE SCREAM" SERIOUSLY??
complete IDIOT's like 200 (Lewis) and the other female boss 41x-ray, use less. I worked the parade and per 200 "We are going to walk around and tell the people in the park "THE PARK IS CLOSED", BUT! we are not going to force them to leave nor force them leave. So... what happend P.O.'s gathered and did a walk through a section of the park with WHITE SHIRTS who told people "the park was closed."
Risk of Officers getting injured?.... what Idiots! I believe the only officers getting injuried were the ones on the APV's. 1. APV's should be maintance instead of crab APV's officers were riding. 2. Officers riding them should have advance training, not just the basic go and stop.
He'll go to a parade on Saturday but not Sunday- Sunday is his family day-so no St. Jude... Gay Pride day is on a Sunday and he doesn't go to that either.
8/09/2009 09:35:00 PM
He also doesn't go to Church on Sundays either. Just sayin...
No offense to "Bud" but the South Side Irish Parade NEVER has had shots fired. Take that for what it's worth...
Dear scc:
At least someone on this department has the ___ to take matters in their own hands and do what they believe is the right thing to do. Just as long as she stands behind her decision and doesn't back down when given negative feedback. Isn't that what we are supposed to do? We are given a situation with safety being the ultimate goal and once that person believes that safety has been compromised, for whatever reason, then they must make a decision. If another officer or citizen got hurt or crap broke out, then she would have been critized for not taking action sooner, when we were down 2 officers already. Everyone would have said she should have known that it was going to hit the fan based on previous years' nastiness that can only belong to bud. Isn't that what we bitch about all the time? Bosses not doing the right thing, being afraid of making a decision? If I have 2 officers hurt and shots fired, then bye bye bud. Scc, i'm usually behind you but i'm backing off on this one. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't?
Anyway, more importantly, I was thankfully not at the parade but I don't think your mayor was either, that must have been a mirage. He doesn't come out and play on Sundays, remember? Sundays are his day of rest, the day he spends with his family. He doesn't even show up for St. Jude's. He refuses to pay respect to the men and women of his police department that were murdered, so I seriously doubt he was on a float, in 95 degree heat with a heat index of 105, waving to people he doesn't know on his family day. People, get your eyes checked, and Scc, I love you.
Harold washington park that fucking funny. I bet good old George is rolling over in his grave forget that he rolled over already after the last election...
any coppers that didnt think the park should have been closed are obviously morons. oh and why were "administrative officers" released before everyone else at the parade. car 41 releases the scared house mouses but leaves everyone else out there to potentially get hurt?
8/09/2009 09:29:00 AM
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They were sent home because they didn't want to pay them overtime. They started early.
I worked tact with G.L. as patrolmen in 011 "back in da day". She's the real deal and knows her shit. Clout heavy? Absolutely. But she's been the "real police" for a long time, also. She made a command decision which was also the right decision. That's more than you can say for or expect from Mizz Trahanas.
No offense to "Bud" but the South Side Irish Parade NEVER has had shots fired. Take that for what it's worth...
8/10/2009 01:01:00 AM
ENOUGH with the references to the Southside Irish Parade. Quit comparing your fucked up behavior to someone else's fucked up behavior.
Jesus Fucking Christ. You're god damn right there's no shots fired you fucking moron. It doesn't diminish your fucked up behavior and the reason that fucked up day has been cancelled.
If it protected US from getting hurt while chasing a bunch of thugs from one end of the park to the other, than I am all for it!
BRILLIANT MOVE, CMDR!
Anonymous said...
No doubt "closing" the park immediately caused everyone already in the park to leave.
All that over a single possible gun shot?
I hope whoever thought this was a good idea had written authroity to do so.
8/09/2009 09:50:00 AM
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Hey, we should have waited for at least one innocent bystander to get shot before we closed the park right?
You are an idiot Monday morning quarterback that wasn't even there.
I was there and the commander did the right thing. Everybody got the see the parade. The show was over.
The trouble started. Time to shut it down. I'm sorry we had to send your play cousins home early (long before they could get drunk and start a fight). Get your fat ass out from behind your desk and do some real police work from time to time.....
Oh yeah, you ain't working cause you ain't got no contract....Like you really did work when you did have a contract?
Car 200 AN IDOT!!!!!!! Great job putting her in charge. Close the park, why don't you go hide inside 35th and when you come out your lazy driver can parade you around on your cart, jackass
send information to olympic committee washington park closed during a family picnic
how can chicago handle olympics
Why did Jfed come to the Bud parade. Him, Dugan, Daley and his other flunkies sat in the car while we stood on the street hot as hell! Fuck you and your worthless cronies. None of them that I just mentioned are worth shit!
Pay attention to the kiss ass bosses Jfed is hanging out with. Remember them and their people, remember their sell out incompetent asses.
Where was she the real police? All I know is that she made commander out of personnel. I love the order she gave out earlier in the day, " theirs a group of males walking N/B from 51st they need to be arrested, lock them up" OK for what commander? what did you witness them do? Are you going to handle the CR# for me. Boy you don't have a clue.
8/09/2009 07:46:00 AM
Um, Cmdr, Lewis spent her first years in 011, on the watch and then tact for many years, thank you. After that she was in narcotics.
If you had been listening to the radio, the group of M/1's was described on the air as "unruly" several times. Perhaps a charge of Disorderly Conduct is appropriate this case. Pay attention! It is you who is clueless.
"send information to olympic committee washington park closed during a family picnic
how can chicago handle olympics
8/10/2009 06:15:00 PM"
Yeah, so the IOC members can have a good laugh.
It's the money, that's ALL they care about.
Where there any reports of deficating, urinating and fornicating this year?
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