Tuesday, September 29, 2009

Hey J-Fed

We know the mayor and Masters (Masters Masters Masters) are pulling your strings, but here's one more opportunity for you to make a difference and maybe actually raise morale. We expect you to ignore it again, seeing as it's here on the blog, but at least no one can ever say you weren't provided with the opportunities to make significant positive changes - you just ignored them.
Justify Full
You know how you like to turn police officers over to your other federal cronies? How about this one? Your former co-workers are currently in possession of at least one "merit" promoted sergeant, under an agreement to cooperate fully lest he go to prison. If the rumors are to be believed, the feds will currently own another, maybe two more "merit" sergeants and a "merit" lieutenant.

Wouldn't it be interesting to have them testify under oath as to what constituted "merit" for their promotions? What magical qualities do they have in such abundance that they qualify for promotion while dozens, even hundreds of others don't?

We did notice you and your staff still haven't defined "merit" so as to give everyone an opportunity to "earn" a promotion - like your driver. Maybe you could make inroads into eliminating the 30% kick that has doomed this Department to mediocrity in the Command ranks for decades to come. We did notice that a largish number of "merit" picks appear to be represented at callback, in front of the Police Board and in jail. It's probably time to rethink the criteria for nomination.

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111 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

30% by merit? Seems as if they have not even been giving promotion exams lately... 30 % of 0=0,so it IS an even playing field of 50%- no promotions by merit or exam!

9/29/2009 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Before: "merit" and legit promotions
Now: "NO" promotions..

9/29/2009 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no thank you

9/29/2009 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-FUDD ain't talkin !!! Shortshanks can can dictate what Channel 32 Chicago is allowed/not allowed to be broadcast in the media, he sure as heck has J-FUDD under a Gag order !

Fuck Daley

Fuck masters

Fuck J-Fudd

Fuck all the puppets in the White House

Fuck the chickenshit media in Chicago.

TRUTH is a word that is not in the vocabulary of any of the above asswipes.

9/29/2009 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, perhaps this message should be sent to the States Atty's Office. Oh yeah, that's the same thing.

oy

9/29/2009 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Merit = we had to blow someone in the chain of command in the Daley Crime family. We pledge our silence !!!!

9/29/2009 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Matt helped to get those merit promotions and now is in hiding.

9/29/2009 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard an idiot say a while back, in regards to a promotion, "he was made merit Sgt. because he was in a shooting." I then informed the fool that the merit promo was also related to a very big boss and has worked at 35th street for the past 4 years amoung many big bosses. Not playing down the severity of being involved in a shooting, but there are many that have been involved in shootings, but just go about their business and have no connection to anyone and will never be made merit. It's always who you know not what you have done. It's the Chicago way!

9/29/2009 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Promotions? I am too near the end to give a shit about any promotion. J-Fed and shortshanks can shove all their promotions up their asses. A promotion means nothing to me any more. Too many years of working under a corrupt system, too many clouted fucks have gone on to white shirts, higher salaries, higher pensions, perks, thousands of hours on the books etc.

Not to sound bitter but I simply do not care. This police department lost me some time ago and my soul and spirit are never to return to the CPD. I continue to get the direct deposit paycheck for a while longer but that is the extent of my involvement.

Too many broken promises, too much clout, too much corruption, too many bosses telling me I need to stay outside the station till a quarter past the hours while they duck early. Too much do as I say, not as I do. It just doesn't matter anymore.

My morale stays at home, I reserve any good spirit and effort for my family. The countdown till the end continues.

9/29/2009 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do yer job!

Work for these meritorious bosses that will throw you under the bus for their own personal gain!

Hey JFED still havent told me what to strive for to get meritorious!!

WHAT...... cant put on paper good in bed or politically connected!!

Then I can at least try to get good in bed anyway!!!

someone please name one meritorious boss that deserves it?

JUST ONE!!!

WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!

9/29/2009 04:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the truth came out then Masters and his predecessors as Chief of Staff would be standing trial in Federal Court.

Fitzgerald's theory of "honest services" would cover what they are doing for the Mayor.

Masters replaced Weis' nominee because Weis' nominee would not accept calls from certain Alderman because he was not comfortable with their requests.

9/29/2009 04:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IT WONT HAPPEN.HIS BALLS AREN'T THAT BIG.HE'S A FED GUY AND WE KNOW THEY'RE ALL BITCHES.....(AIRHART)

9/29/2009 05:32:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

To unpublished goof:

We implied nothing of the sort. You're reading words that aren't there. Try again.

And most "merit" promotees deserve it? You're smoking what you should be inventorying. If that were so, the City and Department would define "merit" so everyone would have a shot. But there is no definition. Not one. So it's who you know, who you blow, who's seed and loins you were spawned from, or which aldercreature you campaigned for. Period. We'll bet the number of deserving merit appointees is under 1 in 20.

9/29/2009 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will never happen. Must say I am a little surprized at how easily J-Pud was corrupted. Big Fed comes in to clean up corruption, only to advance corruption for Daley. Could it only have been for the money? Maybe he just doen't care who gets promoted or placed. Just take the money and run. Let Daley make all the command decisions. That way he can say he had nothing to do with it.

9/29/2009 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fewer Cops patrolling the streets = more street crime, I'd bet if a Marked Blue and White with two Uniformed Male Police Officers drove by during the Fenger beating, the mob would have ran, and if it was when the fighting just started, the killing would not have occurred. Now spin that greedy Richie, [I'm too busy partying in Copenhagen] Daley.

9/29/2009 07:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Earned not given." he told you with that big a-- sign that he wasnt gonna promote you. lol

9/29/2009 07:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You want to cause a giant ripple effect? All those with any amount of balls left, hit the medical this Friday! Thats should send all the goofs scatterin.

Goofs = white shirts

Sure would be funny to watch on the tube. Especially if da mear dont get his limpics.

9/29/2009 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jimmy O'G was a merit Lt., and now cmdr of narcotics. I don't think anyone here would say he didn't deserve it.

9/29/2009 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the basis for "merit promotion" can be very clear,if reduced to the following:

If an officer is injured in the performance of his duties.

All the rest DTW (Doesn't Test Well) is code for "get on your knees and kiss his ass"

The morale of this department can be directly traced to the unfair system of "merit promotion".

It is not by chance that "management" (you could say Merit) or units not subject to senority have a much higher level of corruption, apparently the "best and brightest" are also the best examples of the leadership of this deapartment.

wharej
Unit 603

9/29/2009 08:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scc,

although we know the merit process is a joke (and i believe crimanal) the only way he would have to give testimony is if the feds were investigating the merit process and then the investigation would have to be against those who approved the promotion

9/29/2009 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE IT FAIR IS TO PROMOTE BASED ON SENORITY. AS YOUR NUMBER COMES UP WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE A DET. ( Y/N) A SGT. ( Y/N) A LT.,ETC (Y/N) IF YOU DECLINED AT THAT TIME THE NEXT TIME FOR PROMOTIONS YOU WOULD BE ASKED AGAIN. SIMPLE ENOUGH DOESNT COST THE CITY ANY MONEY / NO LAW SUIT/NO SHAKMAN DECREE, FOR THERE IS NO TEST,THE CITY WOULD HAVE A "RACIAL/GENDER QUOTA". MOST P.O'S GO THEIR CAREER WITHOUT GETTING PROMOTED OR DONT WANT IT TO BEGIN WITH FOR WHATEVER REASON,AND AS YOU MOVE UP THE RANKS THE HERD GETS THINNER ANYWAYS. I KNOW THE AGRUMENT OF WELL YOU WANT SOMEONE THAT KNOWS THE DEPT. ORDERS, WELL YOU SHOULD KNOW THEM TO BEGIN WITH AND WITH MERIT PICKS(WHAT DOES THE ORDER SAY TO DO QUOTE FROM ALL OF THEM) OR GREAT TEST TAKERS, HAVE YOU EVER MET ALOT OF THEM THAT ARE THAT SMART, NO. FLIP

9/29/2009 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ALL merits generally like to keep that part of their dirty little secret among themselves as not to be outed!It's a large closet and has plenty of room for future hacks.WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!

9/29/2009 08:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's not just the 30 percent merit either--- how about all those test takers who have the answers before the test is given--- this is also a type of "merit" so the number blows way past 30 percent--- sorry scc, their is no way in hell that this yellow bellied putz will ever do anything close to what you suggested, he doesn't have the cajones and he is on his way out the door... ========>---------

9/29/2009 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Being a P.O., I haven't been promoted by merit and I refuse to take any tests for my own personal reasons. I do beleive some good people that are not test takers have been promoted, point in being Captain Farrel. I just really have an issue with people sitting on the Merit Board selecting or not selecting because of their personal views, when they live in a glass house, point in being is Asst. Supt. Cuello. She is 3rd in Command and has NEVER EVER been promoted based on anything except merit. She didn't even rank in the top 300 for any test, but this idiot is 3rd in Command. She does not even have 20 arrests in her entire career. How exactly was her merit judged? How can you appoint that idiot to anything and how can she still be allowed to represent this apartment with her history?

Then you look at people like Ruth Wedster.Enough said. Then you have the mumbling idiot from Area 2 Dana Alexander who leads the city just shy of Ernie Brown with HISTORY. Enough said. Last but not least you have people like Kevin Ryan who has not earned even an Honerable Mention without paper jumping. He is about the most arrogant sorry exucuse for a leader next to Dugan, oh I forget, he is next to Dugan all the time. Get out of his ass Kevin so he can breathe.

9/29/2009 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forget about any action taken on this one. It was one of the main ingredients in the special kool aid j-fed was given when he arrived. I remember listening to a radio show about six months into his occupation of CPD when he had the opportunity to address merit promotions. Not only was he not smart enough to sidestep the question as city policy, he actually said "its only a small percentage." 30% a small percentage! Lets see J-Fed, only three department members like you and three more pretend to like you. 6 divided by 11,500 is .0005% What size percentage is that J-Fed?

9/29/2009 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Protect yourself, your family, you partner, and the people you work with. Give these community assholes what they have been screaming about. STOP DOING PROACTIVE POLIVE WORK!!!ITS A TIME WHERE WE MUST STICK TOGETHER OR WE ARE FUCKED!! YOU LIKE A BOSS THAT ASKS FOR 5 PARKERS, GIVE HIM 2 INSTEAD. ITS EASY. FUCK THIS EVALUATION SYSTEM. LETS HAVE AN EVALUATION ON THE WORK ENVIRONMENT FIRST THAT THIS CORRUPT GOVERNMENT HAS CREATED. CANT WE FILE A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT FOR MISMANAGEMENT OF THE CITY AND STATE.

9/29/2009 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO MORE WORK! NO MORE WORK! NO MORE WORK! NO MORE WORK! NO MORE WORK!

9/29/2009 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It takes them 9 months to give you your score on a multiple choice test. Ever wonder why? Can you say 100% merit. Noelle? Noelle? Where are you?

9/29/2009 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT What ever happened to the benefits propaganda sheets the city use to send out to us. They would list our salary, Vacation time, holiday time, medical insurance. dental insurance and so on. These were always such inflated numbers. I have not received one in at least 4 years. Is it because when we are covered from Obama care the city no longer has to pay some of the bill. Now our benefit package drops like a bomb and we will be contributing even more of our pay to Obama care to cover illegals. Now i see why the city dosent want these things sent out anymore they don't want a paper trail and hope most police officers have thrown them away.

9/29/2009 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the single BIGGEST reason for the failures of our department. How can the WARRIORS follow a undeserving person into BATTLE. MAKE IT LEGIT and QUALITY will RESULT!

America will win, it just might take a while.

9/29/2009 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous a.d.s. for nepotism "matty" cline said...

"So it's who you know, who you blow, who's seed and loins you were spawned from, or which aldercreature you campaigned for. Period."

That's offensive to my delicate inbred sensibilities.

9/29/2009 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Imagine a corporation that had high school grads, B.A.s, M.B.A.s, P.H.D.s but promoted only G.E.D. s to upper management. WELCOME TO CPD School of Business!!!
That corp would be in flames as are we.

9/29/2009 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard an idiot say a while back, in regards to a promotion, "he was made merit Sgt. because he was in a shooting." I then informed the fool that the merit promo was also related to a very big boss and has worked at 35th street for the past 4 years amoung many big bosses. Not playing down the severity of being involved in a shooting, but there are many that have been involved in shootings, but just go about their business and have no connection to anyone and will never be made merit. It's always who you know not what you have done. It's the Chicago way!



Wow that sounds just like a merit guy from the last class. Initials JC but its his wife thats related not him. And he worked inside for at least a year before his well earned merit spot.

9/29/2009 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sort of a threadjack, but here's a way to solve all those report problems:

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Vallejo-Police-Outsource-Report-Writing-jw-62428102.html

Outsource your reports!

9/29/2009 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Promotions? I am too near the end to give a shit about any promotion. J-Fed and shortshanks can shove all their promotions up their asses. A promotion means nothing to me any more. Too many years of working under a corrupt system, too many clouted fucks have gone on to white shirts, higher salaries, higher pensions, perks, thousands of hours on the books etc.

Not to sound bitter but I simply do not care. This police department lost me some time ago and my soul and spirit are never to return to the CPD. I continue to get the direct deposit paycheck for a while longer but that is the extent of my involvement.

Too many broken promises, too much clout, too much corruption, too many bosses telling me I need to stay outside the station till a quarter past the hours while they duck early. Too much do as I say, not as I do. It just doesn't matter anymore.

My morale stays at home, I reserve any good spirit and effort for my family. The countdown till the end continues.

9/29/2009 02:31:00 AM


Did I write this??? ditto

9/29/2009 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hahaha!!!! Time will tell.
OT Rio filed an ethics compaint to the IOC against shortshanks!

9/29/2009 12:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

joe got shoot in the foot by steve they both went up the merit ladder sgt lt merit comander what next steve died a few years ago or he would have been a merit chief by now this is from the real police iam retired so fuck the city and the mayor

9/29/2009 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT- Sgt's 14 year old son robbed of his gold confirmation chain and cross pendant by 2/m/1's on bicycles while the kid was doing community service work for his H.S. at 6080 N. Milwaukee yesterday. Same Sgt. that caught two of the dogs that vandalized our memorial. HR-557663

9/27/2009 02:46:00 AM

9/29/2009 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't want him to define merit, because I don't want people knowing how I became sgt. Let's just keep it the way it is, this system works fine.

9/29/2009 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to be promoted to the rank of meritorious Emperor. Oh that's right. Daley holds that spot already. Long live the King!

9/29/2009 01:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic i heard that performance ratings are to start in november and that officers who fail to show any activity will not get a step raise and that fop knows of this. anyone with info if this true or rumor

9/29/2009 01:51:00 PM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

Tragically, you're beating a dead horse, SCC. These corrupt bastards are incorrigible. Chicago actually takes a perverse pride in municipal corruption.

Hey, I'm an upbeat guy. Still, the Stuttering Prick has the media, even the Messiah's Justice Dept. in his hip pocket. His puppet, da WEISel is a heartless, clueless and shameless piece of shit. His "legacy" will be Cozzi and complete ineptitude. He commands neither admiration nor respect; just utter contempt. He indeed deserves to be the target of volleys of rotten eggs, if not worse.

Back in early December, 2007, I actually was naive enough to believe Weis would serve with honor and integrity and bring excellence and professionalism to the political clusterfuck that is the local Democratic machine controlled upper echelons of the CPD. I was a fool.

I despise the political hack suckholes that perpetuate the Chicago Way. I can only advise the younger guys with career options, jump ship ASAP. It will take at least a generation (if ever) to bring meaningful reforms to this City and the CPD: Sodom and Gomorrah on the Lake--the national laughingstock.

Often cops will say this City and the once-proud CPD is "a joke". Try "pathetic", even "hopeless". This city is about as humorous as Stage IV pancreatic cancer.

Like the Titanic, CPD morale now rests on the floor of the North Atlantic.

My heart passionately goes out to whatever remains of "da REAL PO-leese". If the guys out on the mean streets expect appreciation, promotion and assignment opportunities, they're merely spinning their wheels. In all likelihood, their "boss" will be some house mouse who's has made fewer (if any) felony pinches than my first dog.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Re: Letters (ONLY) to Bill Cozzi.

As I posted under the thread (scroll down) entitled "Keeping Bill in Mind", your LETTERS sustain Bill through his ordeal. Please keep them coming. Do NOT send him more paperbacks or any other items at this time.

If you wish to contribute to his commissary funds, check the cited thread. Again, his mailing address is (for LETTERS only):

WILLIAM COZZI, #40222-424
FCI Oakdale
P.O. Box 5000
Oakdale, LA 71463

9/29/2009 02:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blaming J-Fed or asking J-Fed to make changes is a pointless exercise.

J-Fed does not run this department.

We just had a southside murder that is international news and there hasn't been one statement from our "leader." The mayor is not here, so J-Fed does not know what to say.

9/29/2009 02:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/29/2009 02:31:00 AM

mY FEELINGS exactly! That is why i respect no boss, fuck them! Nothing but merit hacks, the 1st and 16th backing up my blue shirt brothers and sisters and their families! Put on a white shirt and 75% + sell their souls1

9/29/2009 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every merit nomination package should be presented to a panel of police chiefs from other cities , most outside the state of illinois. Pay them to screen the packages, then conduct final interviews. Take this out of the hands of the cook county democratic party, I disagree with you, some of the merit promotees are good people, but so are others who will never have a chance for a merit promotion. Daley will never let go and you know it.

9/29/2009 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

j-fed is the best

9/29/2009 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Ultimate Tactical Warrior said...

Now,now,now....It's seems like most of you dawgasses are forgetting that "Meritorious," can sometimes be a long process that takes ingenuity and careful planning, especially if your daddy isn't on the job. You think all I had to do was give a white shirt a b.j. and I got on tac? Theirs/theres a lot more to it my friends.

How about everyday, hanging out in the watch commanders office, making him laugh with jokes, then volunteering to have his car washed. I had to get to work a couple of hours early, everyday including my RDO's, to make that happen. Plus, cutting his grass at home and dressing up as a monkey and performing for his kids on birthdays. (since this is a family sight, I'm not going to get into all the stuff a certain commander made be do with leather straps, bondage, and whip cream.)

Others are far more lucky. Like if you're a halfway decent looking blond that just happens to bump into J-Fed at an Italian restaurant and you also just happen to have your two-year on the job resume with you. Then you get promoted to his "Think Tank."

No sir, I decided to take the high road and not lose all of my pride in the glorious quest to become meritorious. To all my fellow gang and tac officers, stay safe.

9/29/2009 03:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as promotions require a phone call, it doesn't matter how much they deserve it.

9/29/2009 03:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well when merit doesn't work you can always study with the guy who has the answers like Mauer...that accounts for many of the idiots in charge right now..

9/29/2009 03:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC-

Please do an article on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XLgvvXlMi4 This is a video shot a few days ago with Billy Dec walking throughout Moscow on his way to stump for Chicago to get the Olympics.



The funny part about this video is you have Patrick Daley narrating his trip through the streets of Moscow. Now even if he was on a leave from is supposed military career, I really doubt that the military accepts that mop on his head as a proper haircut. I question this because I really wonder if he is really in the military or if his family just sent him oversees to play in Europe for a few years to avoid his talking to lawyers here in the states. Many of politicians in our country have sent their kids who got in trouble away to play for a few years overseas before bringing them back home when the storm dies. Do not let it die

9/29/2009 05:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic, Dumbfuck is going to prison.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/1796408,kid-cop-chicago-prison-sentence-092909.article

Gee, why am I having this feeling that maybe the judge reads SCC.

9/29/2009 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you say Masters?

9/29/2009 05:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It should be known that you could work your ass off and your boss(es0 won't even nominate you for merit. It's the do-nothings, silver-spoon-fed that requests that "they be put in". It is a scam that should immediately cease, but it won't. This city breeds corruption and it won't even begin to stop unless you start from the top and work your way down. I don't see it happening unless Daley gets the grabber soon. Then there's a beginning, but it depends on who takes his place.
God help this city.

9/29/2009 06:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've said this befoe and I will say it again.

When the CPD promotes a class they do not have to promote any by MERIT. They have up to 30% for Sgt. and 20% for Det.

They can promote strictly off the listand take only a few that really deserve it.

I know of someone who headed the Merit Board in the past and he hated when merit selections were due because his phone rang off the hook. Any suckhole that met this individual felt they were owed a favor and anyone who was of similar ethnic background felt the same. Aldermen also called this person.

Promote off the list and only a few that performed heroicly should get merit. Or establish criteria other then the age old PHONE CALL.

Again you don't have to meet the percentage. Please let J Fed know that, someone.

9/29/2009 06:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

j jackass is blaming us.

9/29/2009 07:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And most "merit" promotees deserve it? You're smoking what you should be inventorying. If that were so, the City and Department would define "merit" so everyone would have a shot. But there is no definition. Not one. So it's who you know, who you blow, who's seed and loins you were spawned from, or which aldercreature you campaigned for. Period. We'll bet the number of deserving merit appointees is under 1 in 20.

9/29/2009 06:56:00 AM

Hey SCC,
What about those who get proctored, handed the answers, or have the selected invitation only study group? Great, easy to say fuck the merit, how about a fair test? And I am a merit sergeant. GFY and the f.o.p. union you want to bring in.

9/29/2009 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MASTERS TALK ABOUT NO POLICE EXP WTF IS HE DOING INVOLVED WITH ANYTHING????

9/29/2009 07:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MASTERS??? AT LEAST O.W.WILSON WAS A COP AT ON TIME

9/29/2009 07:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jimmy O'Grady is a good merit Lt. he sucks at being a commander, just like Rick Flair great Lt but sucks at being commander. They're all the same if you're their friend and stay in their circle you are taken care of, no big shit but they shouldn't be exempt they should be tact lt. which is what they are great at, not as boss.

9/29/2009 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Proud to be the 1 in 20.

9/29/2009 08:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he's a nice guy , he deserves it
look in the mirror and you will see a nice guy without clout and it's your family doing without the pay raise he's a good guy is BS
that's merit , clout system

9/29/2009 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT- Sgt's 14 year old son robbed of his gold confirmation chain and cross pendant by 2/m/1's on bicycles while the kid was doing community service work for his H.S. at 6080 N. Milwaukee yesterday

They are probably section 8 scum from Elston & Bryn Mawr. Shoot to kill!

9/29/2009 08:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Jimmy O'G was a merit Lt., and now cmdr of narcotics. I don't think anyone here would say he didn't deserve it.

9/29/2009 07:46:00 AM

I like him, but he doesn't know shit about being a commander. Roti is a complete idiot and that is who JO listens too. Stupid and stupid!

9/29/2009 08:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget what this jagoff did to Cozzi. He's our brother and he's suffering. Fuck J-fed. Don't do anything proactive.

9/29/2009 09:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am offended that a certain meritorious Sgt. in RBT in Area 2 passed out a letter asking for money and donations for his child's school....which is a public school and his child already attends for free.

9/29/2009 09:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The funny part about this video is you have Patrick Daley narrating his trip through the streets of Moscow. Now even if he was on a leave from is supposed military career, I really doubt that the military accepts that mop on his head as a proper haircut. I question this because I really wonder if he is really in the military or if his family just sent him oversees to play in Europe for a few years to avoid his talking to lawyers here in the states. Many of politicians in our country have sent their kids who got in trouble away to play for a few years overseas before bringing them back home when the storm dies. Do not let it die"

Too bad most folks believe he went to the military to avoid the scandal of making lots of money thru city contracts and selling the company. That wasn't the real reason, now was it Paddy? Oh Rush Street does beckon, huh Paddy?

9/29/2009 09:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ay, How bout Carothers.....Merit Det..... (a horse shit one) Left to go to HQ.....Made merit Sgt from there.... Went back to HQ.... made merit Lt from there....... Figure that one out...... Now that's a good reason to get rid of merit!!!!

9/29/2009 09:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why cant we get a list of the cpt/lt contract vote? Shouldn't that be available?

9/29/2009 09:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29, 2009

COMP TIME SURVEY 09/29/09

It has been a long standing policy of the Department to routinely deny members their use of Compensatory Time, Baby Furlough Days, Personal Days, and even Vacation Days. Few, if any, Watch Commanders will sign off on the request when denying time off.

The Lodge would like to keep a record of all requested time off that has been denied. Please complete the following form if you have been denied the use of any form of time off.

Accuracy is important as the results of this survey may be used in current and future contract negotiations.

Comp Time Survey Link is on the Current Updates page of the FOP web site

9/29/2009 10:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/29
7:46am

Nobody deserves it. On any given day any copper could "deserve" it: meaning shit could and does happen to any of us at any time so nobody deserves it. How about we do it like we used to take a test score well and get promoted. And as far as J.O'G goes who was he related to??

9/29/2009 10:04:00 PM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

I just got off the phone with Bill Cozzi. He got twenty (20) letters today alone, all thanks to you guys. On Saturday, he gets to go to the "library" to write letters back.

Bill is a hell of a man yet he admitted that when he goes to bed in his cell, he tears up every night.

PLEASE! PLEASE keep those letters coming. He is out of the loop on what's happening with the city and the CPD. He did hear about the tragic homicide of Derrion ALBERT and the four arrests. He is now aware that the IOC will decide the Olympic 2016 venue in Copenhagen on Friday.

Let him know other Chicago news. Even a few lines says "I CARE, BILL".

We got cut off at 15 minutes as Bill said "Tell them I said GOD BLESS THEM."

I'm now going to send him a subscription to Popular Science, one of his favorite magazines.

Personally, I am soooooo PROUD of you guys for backing up our crucified brother with your letters.

9/29/2009 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE IT FAIR IS TO PROMOTE BASED ON SENORITY. AS YOUR NUMBER COMES UP WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE A DET. ( Y/N) A SGT. ( Y/N) A LT.,ETC (Y/N)


What a fucking great idea!! If that falls through, we can do the pick a number between 1 and 100,000. Closest 300 people get the spots. How's about this, next time they announce start studying. Then continue studying until it's time to take the test. see that's how it's done in school. The difference here is that if you have no clout, you have to study real hard and score pretty high to get promoted. I guess that sums it up.

9/29/2009 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we have COLs in the resv and national guard that are just POs but cant get promoted here. WTF is that. Many are deployed and the gold stars are fumming because they dont qualify and cant get real world exp

9/29/2009 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC:"What magical qualities do they have in such abundance that they qualify for promotion while dozens, even hundreds of others don't?"


SUCTION!

9/29/2009 11:00:00 PM  
Anonymous this really sux said...

Merit = chicago politic$

9/29/2009 11:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic ----------------


http://www.chicagofop.org/comptime.asp

The FOP newsletter has a survey regarding time off. Please fill this out if you were ever denied time off. Please forward this to every PO in the emails.

The more we have, the better.

9/29/2009 11:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ultimate Tactical Warrior said...
I'm getting boring redundant and irrelevant...somebody send me some fresh material PLEASE!!!!

signed, Ultimate Wack Bore-rior

9/29/2009 11:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My morale stays at home, I reserve any good spirit and effort for my family. The countdown till the end continues.

9/29/2009 02:31:00 AM

How sad.... This place will suck the soul right out of you!

Even sadder... You aint the only one 'round here like that!

9/29/2009 11:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT- Sgt's 14 year old son robbed of his gold confirmation chain and cross pendant by 2/m/1's on bicycles while the kid was doing community service work for his H.S. at 6080 N. Milwaukee yesterday. Same Sgt. that caught two of the dogs that vandalized our memorial. HR-557663
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Please take a look around Gladstone park at 1600 hours. There have been several sightings of a couple possible matches. Thanks in advance.

9/30/2009 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city will not give up merit because they are to corrupt. The city can make it a little more fair if they saved all the merit up until the end of the list. That way everyone who did well on the test will not give up seniority for the BS city merit picks.

Example: The city makes 500 off the test before they have a new one. So the last class off the list will consist of 150 merit hacks.

The city should also make it more fair and only allow a merit promotion once in a career. it is unbelievable that their are people on this department who were promoted 3 times merit. How the Fu&k can they explain that phenomonon. That is a total abuse of power and simple greed, pure corruption at its finest. Chicago is a miserable city, the management and politics in this city is gross.

Also, not one mother Fu%%er on this department should get to look at the test. That way we could elimanate the other 30 % merit that this department has. We all know that just because you did well on the test doesn't mean you deserve it. We all know that the chosen ones are given the answers to the test. Maybe not all the answers, but just enough so they can score high enough by the numbers to make it.

This city actually has 60% merit and we all know it, but no one will step up and admit it because they are to busy sucking some one off, so they can get the second merit promotion.

9/30/2009 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will never happen. Must say I am a little surprized at how easily J-Pud was corrupted.

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What about Brust??? all it took was a little of the usual ass kissing from Ruthie, and a couple tickets to see Elton John and Billy Joel...

Not only are they cowards (R.I.P. Joe Airhart) but now they can take gratuities!

And Brust is in charge of our IAD

Perfect, Commander of Training can give an ETHICS class to all of our recruits, and the Head of IAD can come in and talk to them about INTEGRITY

What a F---in joke!

9/30/2009 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wish an A/2 dick would have handed me a letter begging for money. As a single parent I put my kids through catholics schools and ate all those stupid calendars etc that were brought home to "sell". That's right, I bought them, I didn't go to work and ask my co-workers to help pay my kids tuition or send my kids out ringing neighbors doorbells annoying the shit out of them. If you can't afford to pay what a school costs don't send your kid there.

9/30/2009 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FLOP isnt going to do a fucking thing about the denial of your comp time. They waste our fucking dues money on a bullshit FSLA lawsuit that only affects 160 members of this bargaining unit who actually have FSLA time on the books. What a fucking joke. and the funny thing is they make it out to be a big deal when the FLOP won the suit. Now they want you to waste your fucking time on recording how and when youve been denied comp time. This union is a fucking joke. Theyve got no teeth and try to give the impression that they have them. The FLOP is fucking useless!

9/30/2009 04:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fewer Cops patrolling the streets = more street crime, I'd bet if a Marked Blue and White with two Uniformed Male Police Officers drove by during the Fenger beating, the mob would have ran, and if it was when the fighting just started, the killing would not have occurred. Now spin that greedy Richie, [I'm too busy partying in Copenhagen] Daley.
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Although I totally agree with you on the manpower subject, with all due respect, you must have never worked in a district where you can experience the full effect of "the beast" when he gets going. A squad car driving through would have dispersed that mob? Not a chance. These animals would have continued at least until some form of hands on, or good old fashioned ass- whooping commenced. It's like they get in a "zone" and that mob mentality takes over.
Again, not trying to undermine your point, but I've driven into similar shitstorms many times, and most of the time, it's like you aren't even there until you let him know it.
And for the record, they know when I'm there. I am a 6'5", 260 lb male white, who has been working tact in the busiest southside districts for nearly twenty years. I know I can handle my business....unfortunately, "the beast" doesn't care who you are or what you look like. When he enters the feeding frenzy mode, decided hands- on us the only proven successful method. Of course....if we had the manpower, maybe things would change.
Just my two bits...be safe out there.

9/30/2009 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"14 year old son robbed of his gold confirmation chain and cross pendant by 2/m/1's on bicycles while the kid was doing community service work for his H.S. at 6080 N. Milwaukee yesterday."

They probably live on the 5800 of Elston. These 3rd world Eurotrash that own the property will take section 8 vouchers in a minute. Therein lies the problem.

9/30/2009 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO WHICH I STATED " YOU SHOULD ALREADY KNOW THE ORDERS AND LAW TO BEGIN WITH" WHY WOULD YOU HAVE TO STUDY SOMETHING YOU SHOULD KNOW.

9/30/2009 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I worked my ass off. I worked my health away actually. And even tho since day 1 I knew the job was phony I still thought I was working for something higher.

Boy for such a sharp guy I sure was a dumb fuck.

Now I piddle away the day hiding in my little beat car. Got tagged a few times by the job and saw what all those pinches and awards mean then. Ruthless fucks, just give them one opportunity to stick it up your ass and you see what this job is about.

I try and keep the contempt off my face when in front of some of these white shirted clowns. sometimes I can, sometimes I cant.

I wouldn't piss on a lot of them if I saw them on fire. What a waste of my life working for this jagoff Dept. has been.

9/30/2009 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck the 19th ward

9/30/2009 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
off topic i heard that performance ratings are to start in november and that officers who fail to show any activity will not get a step raise and that fop knows of this. anyone with info if this true or rumor

9/29/2009 01:51:00 PM


That isn't too hard to figure out. Just have an earnest talk with your W/C about what he/she expects and male sure do this the year before you are due a step raise. Then go out and work so you can show improvement. Then get the step raise. Then continue to shove it up their ass until the next step raise. Unless, of course, you need special employment. Then figure out what the curve is and make sure you are a bit above it.

9/30/2009 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO: 9/30/2009 04:46:00 AM
The FLOP isnt going to do a fucking thing about the denial of your comp time. They waste our fucking dues money on a bullshit FSLA lawsuit that only affects 160 members of this bargaining unit who actually have FSLA time on the books. What a fucking joke. and the funny thing is they make it out to be a big deal when the FLOP won the suit. Now they want you to waste your fucking time on recording how and when youve been denied comp time. This union is a fucking joke. Theyve got no teeth and try to give the impression that they have them. The FLOP is fucking useless!

Did you ever wonder why? If the city gets away with this erosion of our contract, the next step is to limit the number of hours that you can have on the books. FOP is fighting for our contractual rights. Must suck to have no time and be so bitter.

9/30/2009 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city will never give up meritorious (politically and interdepartmentally connected)spots. Look at your exempts. How many of them were meritorious all the way up the ladder. One of the brand new commanders will wow you with his exploits and his department sponsored training and his diploma mill Masters, but he couldn't pass the Sgts. or the Lt.s tests. Merit Sgt., merit Lt. merit Cpt.(for six months) and now a Commander. Only in Chicago.

9/30/2009 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am offended that a certain meritorious Sgt. in RBT in Area 2 passed out a letter asking for money and donations for his child's school....which is a public school and his child already attends for free.

Yea and dont forget X-mass when we are again schook down FOFRCED to give them merit j/os a cash gift, Im calling IAD and Mary Mitchell this year, one hundred bucks of my money for these merit jags offs in addition to the fifty for the X-mass party. Masters, masters , Masters stop this shake down.

Stuck in A2 for three years please make new dicks so we can get our freedom.

Mike MASTERS, Detective 620

9/30/2009 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you think I feel, When I came on this job I didnt need a degree. At one time the 2nd and 3rd in charge of this dept only had a GED(same as me) but im told I cant be a Sgt. Now I see all these collage degree goofs are merit bosses that after four years of school still dont no shit about being a policeman.

9/30/2009 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-FED is a lying FRAUD and so are the bosses taking his orders. He will stab you in the back and throw any copper he doesn't like under the buss in no second flat.

9/30/2009 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow that sounds just like a merit guy from the last class. Initials JC but its his wife thats related not him. And he worked inside for at least a year before his well earned merit spot.

9/29/2009 09:53:00 AM

You couldn't be a pimple on JC'S ass as a policeman. It was well deserved, and I don't think having a relative that was an inspector is clout. NOw go fuck yourself! but stay safe while doing so...

9/30/2009 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, not one mother Fu%%er on this department should get to look at the test. That way we could elimanate the other 30 % merit that this department has. We all know that just because you did well on the test doesn't mean you deserve it. We all know that the chosen ones are given the answers to the test. Maybe not all the answers, but just enough so they can score high enough by the numbers to make it.

This city actually has 60% merit and we all know it, but no one will step up and admit it because they are to busy sucking some one off, so they can get the second merit promotion.

9/30/2009 12:23:00 AM

Signed, I didn't pass so it must be bullshit. Sorry pal, if you studied the material promotion was attainable. I gave up 6 months of my life studying, I basically gave up having a life, going out, cut back on side-jobs,stopping after work etc. etc. and I studied, read the material and the orders and scored well enough to be promoted, it took 2 1/2 years for them to get to me, but I made it. You get out of it what you put into it, and when you know that the clouted and meritorious are looking to take a spot, that should make you study even harder.

9/30/2009 04:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am offended that a certain meritorious Sgt. in RBT in Area 2 passed out a letter asking for money and donations for his child's school....which is a public school and his child already attends for free.

9/29/2009 09:19:00 PM

Then go tell him that, coward.

9/30/2009 04:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I worked my ass off. I worked my health away actually. And even tho since day 1 I knew the job was phony I still thought I was working for something higher.

Boy for such a sharp guy I sure was a dumb fuck.

Now I piddle away the day hiding in my little beat car. Got tagged a few times by the job and saw what all those pinches and awards mean then. Ruthless fucks, just give them one opportunity to stick it up your ass and you see what this job is about.

I try and keep the contempt off my face when in front of some of these white shirted clowns. sometimes I can, sometimes I cant.

I wouldn't piss on a lot of them if I saw them on fire. What a waste of my life working for this jagoff Dept. has been.

9/30/2009 09:41:00 AM


This department sucks your soul dry, that's for sure. I heard a factory worker in Russia put it perfectly, he said they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.

Keep the faith and keep yourself happy and in good spirits for your family, they deserve your best effort, not this fucking job, that's for sure.

In just a couple of years I will pull the pin, soul intact but a bit bruised and begin collecting a nice pension My wife will cash her stuff out for another couple of grand a month and I can sit back and smoke a nice cigar occasionally and read the blog and get a laugh now and then.

I am trying to decide what kind of car to buy with my OT check, a Lincoln, Cadillac or BMW, decisions decisions.

9/30/2009 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

j-fed is the best

9/29/2009 03:04:00 PM

*Weis crumbles, begins posting on SSC*

9/30/2009 09:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Signed, I didn't pass so it must be bullshit. Sorry pal, if you studied the material promotion was attainable. I gave up 6 months of my life studying, I basically gave up having a life, going out, cut back on side-jobs,stopping after work etc. etc. and I studied, read the material and the orders and scored well enough to be promoted, it took 2 1/2 years for them to get to me, but I made it. You get out of it what you put into it, and when you know that the clouted and meritorious are looking to take a spot, that should make you study even harder.

Sorry my friend but I studied my ass off also. I scored 389 on the list, but their is a good chance that this city will not get to my number.

If you would read my rant again, I stated that we all know people from those double secret study groups. If you believe they do not exist you are crazy. I would venture to say that if it wasn't for the secret study groups I more then likely would have scored in the 200's but you can go on believing you are special because you were lucky enough to make the list and get promoted. If it wasn't for the secret study groups you porbably would not have waited for 2.5 years to get promoted.

Also, for the record I have worked with people who were in those study groups, so I know what I am talking about. I was just not lucky enough to have been invited.

Not to mention you don't find it a bit odd that the people that flaunt the clout just happen to score in the top 100 or 200 spots. I sure hope you are not that gullable or that stuck on your self that you believe it is all legit.

9/30/2009 09:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/29/2009 08:37:00 AM

I don't know about Lt, but I know for a fact Cuello made sergeant legit. She was in the 2nd class from the '93 test....the last test given by shortshanks that was legit and BEFORE the merit bullshit was put in place. And when the number of minority qualifiers didn't meet his expectations, the test was scrapped early.

9/30/2009 09:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Ay, How bout Carothers.....Merit Det..... (a horse shit one) Left to go to HQ.....Made merit Sgt from there.... Went back to HQ.... made merit Lt from there....... Figure that one out...... Now that's a good reason to get rid of merit!!!!

9/29/2009 09:47:00 PM

Okay, then point them all out!
Some are deserving, some are just plain old idiots!
Roti - Merit hack and stupid
Kevin Ryan - Merit hack and complete idiot
Leo Schmidt - Merit hack - lost
Dugan - Merit hack and complete idiot
Jarmusz - Merit hack, crazy as hell
Dana Alexander - Merit hack, complete idiot
Keating - Merit hack
Beatrice Cuello - Queen of Merit hacks, idiot is not a strong enough word for her
Genessa Lewis - Merit hack, idiot
Zavala - Merit hack, idiot idiot idiot
Sadowski - Merit hack, idiot
Led by Jodi Weis - Police Impersonator!

9/30/2009 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You couldn't be a pimple on JC'S ass as a policeman. It was well deserved, and I don't think having a relative that was an inspector is clout. NOw go fuck yourself! but stay safe while doing so...

This is the pimple on his ass that he got while working inside as a secretary at MSF for at least a year before he made it. So I guess pushing paper work is being the police now. You must work at 35th since it seems you do even less than he did. And I know that being an inspector isnt a phone call spot either right? Thanks for playing.

9/30/2009 11:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You couldn't be a pimple on JC'S ass as a policeman. It was well deserved, and I don't think having a relative that was an inspector is clout. NOw go fuck yourself! but stay safe while doing so...

This is the pimple on his ass that he got while working inside as a secretary at MSF for at least a year before he made it. So I guess pushing paper work is being the police now. You must work at 35th since it seems you do even less than he did. And I know that being an inspector isnt a phone call spot either right? Thanks for playing.

Not sure where you get your info from, but he was asked to go inside to help recreate a unit. That happened November of last year when MSF was created. The Sgt class started end of may. My math lends me to think that is 7 months. Besides, it isnt what you were doing right before the promotion, its the culmination of all you've done. 7 months out of 10years, you're logic is silly and wrong. The merit process is flawed, no question, but I think they got one right with this guy.

- former supervisor

9/30/2009 11:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am offended that a certain meritorious Sgt. in RBT in Area 2 passed out a letter asking for money and donations for his child's school....which is a public school and his child already attends for free.

9/29/2009 09:19:00 PM

Then go tell him that, coward

Coward? How about conflict of interest shitbird. He is clouted up and is using his supervisory position to get money from the dics that work for him....

10/01/2009 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry. ONLY the FIRST class from the 93 test was legit Einstein. The scores went out and Daley FIRED the test CO. That is why the dicks test from the same company was so corrupt. ONLY THE FIRST CLASS> GUARANTEED. Got it in writing on my lawsuit from the test company asshole.

10/01/2009 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In a few months I am going to publish a letter from a testing company that is going to freak a lot of people out. Until then, for fucks sake, buy your own kid's school shit. This isn't Catholic Charities!

10/01/2009 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to mention you don't find it a bit odd that the people that flaunt the clout just happen to score in the top 100 or 200 spots. I sure hope you are not that gullable or that stuck on your self that you believe it is all legit.

First off I sincerly hope they get to you, you've earned by score! As for the study groups etc, I know they exist, all I was saying is that we have to work harder to ov ercome that crap, it sucks but is reality, stay safe and best of luck!!

10/01/2009 02:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the pimple on his ass that he got while working inside as a secretary at MSF for at least a year before he made it. So I guess pushing paper work is being the police now. You must work at 35th since it seems you do even less than he did. And I know that being an inspector isnt a phone call spot either right? Thanks for playing.

JC has been the real police his entire career, he was inside about 7 months when they started the MSF, hes a good pick..

10/01/2009 02:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 9/30/2009 10:07:00 PM

You obviously never worked in the 10th District in the past 8-9 or 10 years.

Both Cuello and Zavalla came out of there and were decent bosses who took care of their people.

I only know some of the others you mention by gossip and blog-reputation. But considering what I actually do know of the people I did work for makes the rest of what you write suspect.

10/01/2009 08:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First off I sincerly hope they get to you, you've earned by score! As for the study groups etc, I know they exist, all I was saying is that we have to work harder to ov ercome that crap, it sucks but is reality, stay safe and best of luck!!

It is sad to say, but you are 100% correct we do have to work harder. I didn't mean to sound like a piss head. I understand what you mean and thank you for your response. Stay safe and good luck as well.

10/02/2009 01:09:00 AM  

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