2,000 Short?
Heading into year No. 2 of a hiring slowdown, the Chicago Police Department is now nearly 2,000 officers short of its authorized strength of 13,500, counting vacancies, medical leave and limited duty, records show -- with 36 percent of police jobs at O'Hare Airport unfilled.
After hiring only 46 police officers this year, Mayor Daley's 2010 budget counts on federal stimulus funds to boost manpower next year. Still, just 86 officers are to be added, 30 of them to patrol CTA buses and L trains.
That's nowhere near enough to fill 596 vacancies and a wave of retirements.
No shit Fran. We've been saying this for a few years now.
Of course, whoever fed Fran the numbers is counting Medical, IOD and Limited Duty, so even that isn't a true number. But it's getting closer.
Of course, whoever fed Fran the numbers is counting Medical, IOD and Limited Duty, so even that isn't a true number. But it's getting closer.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 7:40 AM
151 Comments:
How much has the city saved by not hiring PO's yet they want us to give back furlough days..how much is enough?
As I said yesterday in a post. Imagine what 24 unpaid days off would be like on top of furloughs, RDOs, and medical roll. There would be no one on the streets. Getting to use P-Days, BFDs, and Comp Time would be a thing of the past. The little piss bum is really nuts.
Like I said...Walmart or Target could better manage our personnel. Maybe the answer is to create ANOTHER specialized unit or maybe do another mission,..not, lol
Lets hope that the national news media picks this story up and correlates the shortage to the murder epidemic in Chicago and at Chicago's schools.
What is going on with the manpower crisis on the CPD is criminal and has cost at least one PO his life.
2000 short??? King bunghole and the alderdildos want us to take 24 unpaid days off?
GFY and get bent.
My jaw dropped when I saw the article in today's paper. It was about F'ing time the media got on the ball about this.
Now is the time to mobilize and unite, the people are beginning to see the truth.
This will cost more lives in the future, there is no backup coming in most districts when it heats up. Some watches are constantly running skeleton crews and bumping up the numbers by assigning the wagon as a beat car and beat cars as school babysitters, etc.
Are the alderthieves taking 24 days of no bribe taking and reducing the requested amount of bribes by 10%? Just asking.
TRUTH
Daley wanted CPD manpower to fall below the line prior to contract negotiations to reduce any possible retro pay liability.
There was a master plan to initiate mass hirings once the contract and the 2016 Olympic bid were sealed with a huge influx of Obama dollars, needless to say this will never occur.
Piss poor planning once again equating to piss poor performance in Chicago.
This crisis is HUGE and 121 North is in a panic.
There are also some Alderman who are panicking too. We have a few Alderman who are sweating the repercussions of the 2011 Elections and the impending voter backlash developing in their wards.
Times are indeed interesting in Chicago.
Just wait until the developing police scandal hits. One would think that there is a curse on the CPD or something???
With all the automated systems you don't need 13,000 cops. Perhaps just have the supervisors start checking on why 3 cars are down on a one head arrest. Just like with crime scenes, have one PO stay on the scene and the other go out and keep doing jobs. Why waste a whole 2 man car on scene protection? All that's really needed is a proper management of the cars.
OT: does FOP have any information or advise re: the new freedom of information act that allows ANYONE to file a request to get our personnel files? Can we go through them and request that stuff be removed? Will this let people know how addresses and info from our applications? And not sustained CRs?
The bell tolls for thee: Donahue, Dougherty, Bella, Davis.
Well if they (Ali-Daley and the 50 theives) would stop playing 3-card monte with the numbers, maybe SOME braniac could actually crunch the numbers....they always say how much POLICE COST, but always fail to say how much is OFFSET by parking tickets, impounds, ANOVs, manpower vacancies, retirements and the like...p.s. if the damn county FEES (totalling $135 per court appearance) wasn't so high, maybe the JUDGES would not reduce the fines to say $10.00 per infraction....whatever the fuck ever...
Mark Donohue should be at City Council when they debate the Police budget.
He should inquire why Mayor Daley, Alderman Burke and other so-called bigshots need bodyguards/drivers/gofers?
He should inquire if these individuals will fall into the five week off category? If they do will they have to be replaced by police officers who are currently working the "streets"?
Why do these individuals have vehicles assigned to the Police Department being utilized to drive them to dinners and fund raisers when we have no pool cars?
Who pays for the citations issued to these vehicles when they violate a "red light camera" or are they automatically non-suited?
Mark step forward and ask questions!
Maybe the criminals, fires, sick and injured people should take 24 furlough days to coincide with the police and fire taking 24 furlough days....stupid ass, this is not a private corporation or entity-no matter how hard you try to fit it into that mold. Perhaps if the criminals would pay taxes on their link (that they "sell"), TANF, public aid, crazy checks, food and section-8, the budget would not be as bad off...they take this "humane" shit too damn far sometimes. It is a shame the person working at mcdonalds and wal mart cant even compare with these welfare leaches in living. The welfare leaches live like a person that EARN 40K, except the LEACHES don't have to get up and go to work, and burn gas, pay taxes and face probable FIRINGS like everybody else....AMERICA-LAND OF THE FREE (Loaders)
my buddy works at the airport and he is allowed to work a day off "every" week at time and half. the best part is he has to check the money box. thats an extra $1,200 a month. SWEET!!!
The aldermen gave themselves a 6% raise!!!
Their staff received a 5% raise!!!
Their discretionary funds were increased to $1,300,000 each!!!
Police contract expired on 30June2007!!!
By holding off the city has saved millions.
The city has laid off non union workers,went back on their agreements with other unions,but still GAVE THEMSELVES A FLIPPIN RAISE!!!!!!!!
They take "unpaid furlough days", golly gee so does the mayor
They are paid over $120,000 a year for a "part time" job
50 alderthieves X $120,000 = $6,000,000
Discretionary funds =$65,000,000
$71,000,000 PER YEAR
This is what we tax payers are paying for a leadership(ha) that punishes us,that tells us that its the economies fault.
Time for some reporters to do some old fashioned investigating and reporting.
Time to cut the aldermen at least in half and not more.
Time to stop dividing this cities wards by race,church,gang
Time to put in term limits
Time to call out each and every alderthief and ask them how they could take a raise and then ask the average citizen to take it in the end.
Oh and just to let everyone know something, no one joins the police and fire to become rich.
We join to answer the call that every else ignores.
We are the only city services that join knowing we could be seriously injured or killed.
The only ones.
We have shed blood,orphaned children,widowed loved ones.
But still you ask for more.
Shame on the city council and shame on the citizens of this city that agree with these morally corrupt creatures.
Ald. Anthony Beale (9th) said police manpower is likely to be a major issue at City Council budget hearings that began Wednesday -- and that calls for beat realignment will grow louder.
"We're getting resources on the Far South Side when things go bad," Beale said. "But we need to be at that level at all times."
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First off, there are citizens who actually PAY taxes in other parts of the city who do not spend their entire lives draining the cities resources for their very existence, who are MORE justified and who also need city and police services.
And would someone please explain to the mentally challenged 50, that when demands are made for Police to take 5 weeks worth of unpaid furlough days that the result will actually mean LESS OFFICERS AND RESOURCES rather than more!
Intelligence and common sense is an advantage in life.
Go get some, Alderman!
I've said it before. If you're a citizen of Chicago, legally purchase a firearm and illegally keep it in your abode. Your life may depend on it.
sounds like Donahue feed the info to Fran.
If you want to downsize the Police Department, don't lie about it. Lay out your plans and let the Public decide.
To the Taxpayers.....you have been lied to about the strength of your Police Department, your crime statistics and your own safety. What are ypu going to do about it?
OUR PENSION WILL BE THE NEXT THING TO GO
SCC you rock. You make my morning coffee a very pleasant experience.
Don't you see what the Aldermen are doing? They are scared fucking shitless that attention is being brought to the voting public via SCC that they are next to useless and their jobs could be done with 1/2 no make that 3/4 less of them around.
Instead of doing what they are elected to do; like find solutions to "Richie's...I mean the City's alleged financial woes" or what I like to call the Daley family mismanagement of taxpayer resources for the Olympics and start balancing the budget and providing the services that the overtaxed citizens of Shitcago deserve. Instead of doing that, they are backed into a corner and blaming police and fire and saying that they should take unpaid furlough days because a lot of us agree with the idea that a way to save is cutting their jobs. What they are proposing will force more tax revenue out of the CIty, crime will go up, buildings will burn out, good people will move out and what is left of the decent, hard working people who live in this city will be forced to live in fear or have no choice but to move away.
If Richie thinks the budget is unbalanced now, wait til that happens. The citizen demands more from his elected officials. Lets get rid of all these political parasites getting fat off our tax dollars while the rest of us suffer.
While we are at it maybe we could trim off a little fat on the State's side? Do we really need all these State Senators and State Reps in Chicago?? especially in areas whose populations have moved on to Kane, Dupage, Kendall and Grundy counties?
Do we really need all these exempt commanders making +$100,000 a year who have never handled a domestic or written a report (Masters) or if they were at one time the police have long since forgotten what it is like (Dugan)? Do we really need a Superintendent who makes $310,000 a year and has never been a police officer in his life?
I don't think so, and I am willing to bet that the majority of Chicago citizens agree with me. Just remember these are all Richie Daley's family, friends, and political appointments who are wasting all your dollars and then crying poor!!!
NOW GO OUT THERE AND WRITE SOME MOVERS, GET SOME PARKERS, MAKE ARRESTS AND BE PROACTIVE OFFICERS, JFED HAS GOT YOUR BACK.
THANKS JIMMY MAUER!
Wow the Mayor's got to be kicking himself for ever promoting JM and then giving him a second job and for him to repay him like this by leaking it out!
The actual manpower at O'Hare is over 50% down, they fill in with special employment. They took some of the slots ( 30 ) when they needed money for Milenium Park and the bean.
This article is a thinly veiled attack on the mediacl clause of our contract. smells like more b.s. from the 5th Floor.
Some of you have to lern to read. You keep harping on this supposed shortage, and it just isn't there. There are sevral sources for checking the total number of sworn. The most obvious is the Pension Report for this year, which clearly shows well over 13,000 sworn that are paying in as of 12/31. Obvoously some have left since then, but not 2000. Yes there probably are around 9000 D-1's, but that is what is budgeted. Yes some are on medical or limited duty, but I suspect that the percentages are about what they always have been. I know, I know everyone is lying. Well I pretty strongly suspect that the auditors or Northern Trust Bank, or the acturial conlultants have a bit too much at stake to be party to a subtrefuge involving probably what is one of their smaller accounts. Get real.
Now as to the question of whether or not they are distributed correctly, that is an entirely different issue. It appears that manpower allocations could stand some revision.
notice how, in the referenced 'news' article, it starts with a bit of truth and devolves into a spin cycle i wish my old speed queen could achieve, ie., the thinly veiled attack on "....a generous medical policy." & a not so thinly veiled attempt to assert the claim that certain areas are being short changed on police services, via the quoted statement "We're getting resources on the Far South Side when things go bad," Beale said. "But we need to be at that level at all times.".
so, this most recent spielman abortion starts with a bit of truth concerning the short shanked one shorting the city's police force and ends up being just another of the midget's propaganda attempts to blame the CPD for certain neighborhoods' criminal elements' activities.
this town's main stream media is a giant washing machine, filled with the shit that comes out daley from the mouths of the inhabitants of city hall.
'off with their heads!'
For years now on just about any job given out what's the first thing you hear when the dispatcher goes to give an assist car?"I'll let you know".We are our own worst enemies.Take your assist the other jobs can wait.
A friend who works at HQ says if the Mayor gets his way about furloughs, only about 2000 cops will be on the streets on any given day...and they'll be serving and protecting the unproductive members of society who don't pay a dime in any kind of taxes except maybe on their smokes and street taxes to their dealer.
OT: WILL DALEY AND BURKE LOSE THEIR SECURITY DETAILS FOR 24 DAYS OR ARE THEY EXEMPT FROM TAKING TIME OFF?
I want to know when we...
A. doing the speed limit to any response.
B. Come to a full and complete stop at all red lights.
C.Don't leave the house until all are seated, and belted.
D. Stop breaking our asses trying to beat a neighboring company to a fire or shooting.
Fuck 'em. let 'em wait.
SCC, I ran every pay code recently and we have 13,071 sworn people on the job not including exempts. The problem is they put so many people out of patrol where they are needed. Who's fault is it? Is the city moving them? More likely the officer's clout is moving them. We have the bodies they are just where they belong.
Where is the budgeted $$$ for the 2000 vacancies going? FLOP, are you out there???
no shit,the 004th district which is the second largest district has 256 officers,down from 320,1st and 18th dist have aproxx 350 each,whats up with that? oh i forgot its who you know or b@#$,when we work midnights were lucky if we have a 10-4 unit,and these pricks want to take days from us,KISS MY ASS
Why would anyone in their right mind suggest that the police and fire department take unpaid days off when both are already undermanned and overworked? Will dumb-dumb Daley and the useless Aldercreatures work a beat car or firehouse during the present manpower shortage that will only be made worse??
What about Daley's "shadow budget" that has hundreds of millions of dollars to lure private companies here? What about Daley's "friends" at Walsh Construction, Evans Construction and W*E* O'Neill that always seem to get the work building useless projects like Block 37 and countless South Loop hi-rises that remain empty? What about Daley's TIF Funds where he hides tons of cash for all his secret deals?
There's hundreds of millions of "fat" that can be trimmed elsewhere before you start putting your first responders on mandatory furloughs.
That being said, I don't know who's worse... the crooked Democrats in City Hall (and the Whitehouse) or the useless media who refuses to press these politicians for answers, essentially empowering them to rip off the tax payers.
As opposed to taking furlough days, why not cut down on the number of gold braids and gold braided pensions? Maybe even cut some capts? Do we really need all those white shirts? Let the public know where the money has gone. No blue shirts, no one out on the street, but we have more bosses and retired bosses pensions now theen ever. Come on Jody? Couldn't 3 people do your job at $100,000 a year? Do we really need street deputies? Dugan? Cuello? Jim Jacksson? Peterson? All those commanders? Cars? Pensions? Gas? Perks? Stolen Hours? Sacrafice a few of those for the good of the whole! Rather see 4 people working at a decent wage, than 3 with double pensions and crazy salaries!
Factor in the 24 unpaid days they want us 2 take!
So they aren't hiring the 86 until next year now?
This department has always had enough bodies. It just has too much dead weight, more today than ever before.
All the desk personnel, computer analysts, admin personnel, and trainers (even with no trainees) are wasted space. To boot, the department has too many supervisors. While it has always been too supervisor heavy, the difference today is that 95% of the top supervisors have no fucking clue how to do police work.
Hiring more people will just make more dead weight.
The number of actual "police officers" is not the problem. The problem is the number of "police officers" whose job has nothing to do with police work.
More like 2-3 THOUSAND short not just medical,iod etc.. COME ON FRAN DON'T BELIEVE THE BULLSHIT JACKIE HEARD (DOPE HOUSE OWNER) MAKING OVER 185k PLUS CARS AND DRIVERS TELLS YOU BABE!
didn't JFed say they were going to hire those 86 recruits by the end of the year? add another one to the list of unfulfilled promises...what's the hold up if they have the funding?
steady lads, in life a little rain must fall--- the diabolical shortshanks has unleashed a few of his pit bulls at us and is using the media to paint us in a bad light.... the more i watch and listen to mctightwad speak the more i come to the realization that he is one treacherous sob--- don't give up shit, we fight this one all the way.....
(ot) i JUST HAD A REVELATION! How about shortshanks,burkes,the treasurers drivers all take the 24 days off? It would equal the 50 alderidiots missed pay and then they would show the valets are sacrificed even though they get milk and coffee! 50X14,000 pay=$700,000 saved!!
I've never been a FOP basher and no I haven't attended meetings but come on FOP! Do a little media blitz on what these asshole Aldermen are saying. Where are "cop" friendly Aldermen?
And don't forget there has been 40 openings in the 3rd district for about 6 months now.
Been reading the comments about the Sun Time story. Funny how nobody, the press, the public, or the alderman ever mention the cost of the corruption tax imposed on the city by our illustrious Mayor. Nor do they mention his frivolous use of taxpayer dollars in pushing his political well being. Namely his taking the obviously Unconstitutional Gang Loitering ordinance all the way to the Supreme Court. How many millions were lost on defending an ordinance that a two year law student would know was Unconstitutional! All done so he could show the Reverends and the press that he was hard on gangs, with no thought as to the actual merit of the case. Voters should wake up and recognise these empty suits and send them packing.
When the Mayor refunds what has been spent(wasted) on corruption and his public relations follies, then and only then will I take an upaid furlough day. I feel better now, and not one FUCK YOU DALEY in this rant, I surprise myself.
PLEASE READ & UNDERSTAND
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The mayor and his buddies can not force us to take furlough days, that is correct, But what do we do if he decides to lay off officers. Do we throw the least senior officers under the bus so the rest of us can save 7 or 8 grand. If we do that can we still hold our heads up? I dont have an answer I am just saying...
10/29/2009 12:13:00 AM
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The answer to your question is:
YES, TAKE THE LAYOFF AND WAIT TO BE CALLED BACK!!!!!!!
That is how the Unions & Seniority work. Without it, the mayor divides and conquers
8200.that pos not sgts lt capts,det.they dont count.so tell the real story
When the hell is the next written exam going to happen? Anyone hear anything?
Something should be done about the medical roll abusers, and there are plenty of them.Many of the light duty personnel should be out on the street as well as all of the desk personnel and lock-up personnel. Sworn officers just do not need to hold those positions. If you look at other major cities you will see things are abused here.
yeah, ohare is short but they will pay time and a half for officers to work every other day off. the city makes no sense!
No No No,
you are sadly mistaken my blogging friend.
We are 2000 overstrength.
Just ask da mare or his aldercreature lackeys.
All is well.
Things are wonderful
Vote Daley 2011.
is there a name of anyone in the know about the police department in the Spielman article?
Da Mayo better be careful he may become un-electable. The black community no longer fears him, the white community no longer likes him and the hispanic community no longer respects him. His scam is up. He is trying to privitize everything to rebuild his campaign army but he will run out of time. Da Mayo is no longer teflon.
25 days off no pay stop the tickets boys and girls does fop care i dont think so
The King lives on . . . . . now i get it king richie always wins, even the feds are afraid to touch him, now that his china man is even bigger than ever. . . . . . .
Where is media scrutiny of the mismanagement of 100's of MILLIONS of TIF funds. The journalist to highlight this is from The READER! 1/6 of our budget is STOLEN and and used as political favors. OUR RAISES and budget have been raided!!!
The lack of manpower is criminal, what is happening in Englewood could spread like wildfire in the next 2-3 years. For an admitted Daley lackey to admit to 2,000 people short means it's even worse. NO GIVEBACKS on our contract.
UniCare fleeing IL. Wonder why? this sux fo rus. If you have kids u know how good Unicare was. you ass hurt yet??
These numbers are based on the CPD having 10,000 Officers. If we take 24 furlough days each, the city will be down 657 Officers citywide every day. I will bet the mayor will not release those numbers
COME ON! WTF?!? J-fraud told us we were 500 short. Now someone is saying HE LIED TO US! Oh, J-fraud wouldent do that to us...
Are there just issues with getting shortshanks to do a open hire?
Are Lateral Hires still authorized?
What is the basis for the authorized strength level of 13,500?
Lets get this done!
http://www.facebook.com/ReduceAldermen2009?v=wall#/ReduceAldermen2009?ref=mf
One line that tells that we are more than 2k short is "...the Police Department is 1,967 officers PER DAY short...." This apparently doesn't include the folks on RDO and Furlo every day. So what are we short? 2500? 3000? more?
For argument sake lets say we are 3000 short. Lets also say those unfilled positions could be filled by recruits. How much is the mayor saving with unfilled budge positions? The max pay for a recruit with 12 months or less on the job is only $43,104 per year. Multiply that by 3000 and you have more than $129 MILLION DOLLARS in savings. That's just salary alone!
I'll take 24 unpaid furlo days when 42 Extra Short comes clean with the numbers.
If you read this very closely, it seems to be an attack on our medical system. Much emphasis was made on our 365 days for every two years. Just the same 'ol same 'ol stuff to attack us. Always got to get in the cheap shot eh Fran?
I hope everyone realizes it's only to get worse.
You have a continuous reduction in manpower due to retirees, etc., and this city is just not showing any interest in replacing it.
The truth is, we're going to need a huge spike in crime (or one very high profile event) for anything to change. The impression I always get from the department and city is, in so many words, "We don't have a full police force -- but look, crime is down! So there's no need to be at full strength."
I've been waiting awhile now to take to test again. I guess I shouldn't hold my breath that i'll get my chance. My time for eligibility is running out fast.
2k short!!
and now take furloughs and no pay holidays :)
welcome to the city of chicago
can i take your order?
Nothing to see here...
It looks like the shortshanks propaganda organ rapid reaction force has made their move. Neither hide nor hair of of that story & comments can be found.
This shit is more insidious and sinister than Soviet era Pravda...
"Comrade, wouldn't you agree it is time to execute the executioners?"
"Hmmmm... You show initiative, that is good."
*scribble*
"Here is the death warrant, you may pick your own men for this and be sure it is done by sunrise tomorrow."
"With pleasure!"
*opens door... footsteps*
"Hmmmmmm..."
*scribble*
"He shows intiative, have him and his men executed along with the executioners, here's the death warrant."
"Would Comrade desire we leak to the papers that he was a co-conspirator?"
Yes, good thinking..."
Opening Scene: Shortshanks Criminal Utopia
There were about 9300 - 9400 Uniform Checks and Duty Availability Checks issued this summer.
Think the alderscum and "Da Mayo" want to get rid of these checks for another reason? They kinda tell a story closer to the truth.
Fran Speilman we're 2000 short in patrol , crimes down
no money for working police
mayor has money to give sargeants 45 minutes overtime everyday , 1/4 overtime checks worth about $4,000and they only work 8 hours
Except that at anytime you chose, you will have people on the medical, on light duty, loa and everything else mentioned in the report. Makes for a great story, but we live with these numbers everyday. So should the city hire 2000 additional over the budgeted amount just to cover this. I think not. Illness, etc is a fact of life. How about taking a hard stance on the assholes who are always on the medical. You know who they are, they know who they are and all they are doing is screwing the rest of us. Legit illness is fine but we have too many dogs that make a career of being on the medical.
ok..I just heard the 3 officers who are left in patrol just got the flu and hit the medical....now what do we do?
Also consider taht they will not be paying into your pension so your retirement will be pushed back by the 24 days also....
another mixed bullshit news 'report' on channel 5.
first it acknowledges the manpower shortage at 2,000+, then it changes the subject to why aren't more 'bad' cops fired by the board, using Officer Cozzi as the prime example.
fucking media whores.
I think the wheels are coming off of the bus! Forbes Magazine rated Chicago as a very unsafe city, 19th on the list, Detroit and Cleveland were rated as safer cities. Now, Business Week Magazine does not have Chicago in the top 40 viable and financially sound cities. An outside consultant should come in the study the CPD, eliminate the waste ( plenty of that) and streamline the department.
"With all the automated systems you don't need 13,000 cops. Perhaps just have the supervisors start checking on why 3 cars are down on a one head arrest. Just like with crime scenes, have one PO stay on the scene and the other go out and keep doing jobs. Why waste a whole 2 man car on scene protection? All that's really needed is a proper management of the cars.
10/29/2009 08:19:00 AM"
Don't you have someone's ass to lick?
Chop, chop, those boss's anuses are awaiting your tender mercies.
The bell tolls for thee: Donahue, Dougherty, Bella, Davis.
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Put a fork in them.... THEY GONE!
Hey Ginger in the 19th Ward. You should be nervous dear along with your do nothing "staff." YALL GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/1854466,chicago-police-lying-misconduct-102909.article
Interesting. Wonder what brought this on?
---not a cop
Just setting the table for layoffs.
Someone mentioned pension fund-- if you are under 55 you can kiss that thing good bye.
I mentioned this in another post- Houston has looked at bankruptcy to get out of its obligations, so has California and even Oregon. I think Oregon has a pension system more generous than most.
The unemployed plumbers, salespeople, realtors, etc are not going to rise up in arms to help the police and fire departments. So who is going to back the cause of the Police? The mutts who are on the take from every governmental agency imaginable?
With all the automated systems you don't need 13,000 cops. Perhaps just have the supervisors start checking on why 3 cars are down on a one head arrest. Just like with crime scenes, have one PO stay on the scene and the other go out and keep doing jobs. Why waste a whole 2 man car on scene protection? All that's really needed is a proper management of the cars.
10/29/2009 08:19:00 AM
You must've never been in the ghetto when pookie got shot. It sometimes takes a dozen PO's to control a scene.
With all the automated systems you don't need 13,000 cops. Perhaps just have the supervisors start checking on why 3 cars are down on a one head arrest. Just like with crime scenes, have one PO stay on the scene and the other go out and keep doing jobs. Why waste a whole 2 man car on scene protection? All that's really needed is a proper management of the cars.
You should try and leave area 3, you might learn something.
Have the media check the sheets from the front offices. How many "detailed officers" are there? They take from the districts and out them in "s[ecial" units BUT they are still shown as being counted in the said district. THIS is one of the reasons the districts are so short. What happened to the "90 day" rule?
Make me take 24 unpaid furlough days? Fine. I'll take 'em.........then I'll hit the medical for 24 days.
Daley wanted CPD manpower to fall below the line prior to contract negotiations to reduce any possible retro pay liability.
Huh? More clarafication please?
SCC, I ran every pay code recently and we have 13,071 sworn people on the job not including exempts. The problem is they put so many people out of patrol where they are needed. Who's fault is it? Is the city moving them? More likely the officer's clout is moving them. We have the bodies they are just where they belong.
10/29/2009 11:27:00 AM
I too was playing on the computor this past summer and was running unit rosters for districts I used to work in. I was shocked to see many officers on the rosters who have been retired for several years. I spoke with one of those officers and he was as shocked to find that he was still included on the roster and mused that he wished he was still getting full checks instead of just his pension. Computors don't always tell the truth just as statistics can have many meanings. Crime is down? Crime is up? We have 13,000 officers? We have 11,000 officers. The computor will lie if programed to do so just as statistics can be bent to justify a means to an end.
" We have the bodies they are just where they belong.
10/29/2009 11:27:00 AM"
Typo or freudian slip?
1) Fuck the media! Don't care about anything they have to say. Didn't you notice the sun-times mentioned are 365 sick days twice in one story.
The death toll will speak for it's self.
2) I'd be happy to take unpaid days if we could live cheaper some where else, like Indiana. But since we have to stay in the city and pay all the increases in Taxes then I'm going to need a raise.
3) If the city would have allowed less than 160 retire and not make those guys pull out the city would be saving money by Jan 1st.
City plans to prosecute those lying about police misconduct
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1854466,chicago-police-lying-misconduct-102909.article
About time! Long overdue!
Anonymous said...
Just setting the table for layoffs.
Someone mentioned pension fund-- if you are under 55 you can kiss that thing good bye.
I mentioned this in another post- Houston has looked at bankruptcy to get out of its obligations, so has California and even Oregon. I think Oregon has a pension system more generous than most.
The unemployed plumbers, salespeople, realtors, etc are not going to rise up in arms to help the police and fire departments. So who is going to back the cause of the Police? The mutts who are on the take from every governmental agency imaginable?
10/29/2009 07:20:00 PM
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As long as I have a Gun and a Ski mask my family will never go hungry. The Politicians rob everybody everyday so why not I?
That one comment was huge about taking the furlo days. You, besides losing the pay for that day would still have to pay into the pension fund and your health insurance So besides losing a days pay you would owe the city for the health insurance and pension contribution. Thats in addition to losing 25 days credit on your pension. Bad time or these furlo days would be deducted when you were ready to retire Also if Daley received the money for those 86 new po's and theyre were layoffs, the would be the first to go because of reverse seniority and if he laid po's off first then he couldnt hire any new po's because the contract calls for laid off po's to be rehired before and new hires
All that's really needed is a proper management of the cars.
10/29/2009 08:19:00 AM"
Oh my God, are you DUMB!
Anonymous said...
With all the automated systems you don't need 13,000 cops. Perhaps just have the supervisors start checking on why 3 cars are down on a one head arrest. Just like with crime scenes, have one PO stay on the scene and the other go out and keep doing jobs. Why waste a whole 2 man car on scene protection? All that's really needed is a proper management of the cars.
10/29/2009 08:19:00 AM
You must've never been in the ghetto when pookie got shot. It sometimes takes a dozen PO's to control a scene.
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But thats not what the management book said that Jody gave me to read. Do you really think that you know more about a crime scene than the Sup's policy group?
(Jody, Masters, Cuello and that loon Dugan (the white Charlie Williams) what a fucking cluster!)
Face it we will never be at full strength ever again. That being said start sending some of these useless desk people out to the street. I counted at least ten PO's working in the commanders office. And no I dont mean light duty people either they have to work inside. Desks w 6 or 7 PO's on them. Come on. We could at least make due for now with what we have. Albeit temporarily.
In good conscience I must refuse, for the safety of the average citizen of Chicago, any unpaid furlough days. I could not meet my maken with that sin hanging over my head. Shame on you-you little stubby man.
The bell tolls for thee: Donahue, Dougherty, Bella, Davis.
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Put a fork in them.... THEY GONE!
Hey, they're not worried. If they got to go back on the streets they're gonna retire. They all have lucrative jobs lined up- compliments of Mr. Short-Biggie.
I don't want to start a war but how about considering taxing the suburbanites who come all the way from God knows where to work in the city of Chicago. Not only do they take away jobs from the people that live in this city, but they tie up the highways with all their vehicles. There must be 10's of thousands of these job grabbers that get to go back to their nice suburban homes worth bookoo bucks in their nice Mercedes Benz'. Think about it Richie. We can balance the budget by taxing the shit out of these people and the people that actually live here and support the city can get alittle relief from your bullshit taxes, ie: bottled water, real estate, etc
Any time a citizen has a complaint about how long it takes for a police response, I politely encourage them to call their alderman's office and complain.
5 hours for a burglary report? 1 hour old domestics? Citizens are getting pissed. A guy stopped in the station last week and said he complained to the alderman's office about constant gang problems on his block and nothing was being done. A woman who was cussed out by high school kids while trying to intervene when a girl was getting jumped after school also said she complained to the alderman and nothing was being done. The citizens are tired of the BS. BeWare Alderpeople!!!!
23rd ward ald. Zalewski? how about stepping up for the police & firemen in the ward! maybe you can sneak another son on a payroll.
? Were our tax dollars used to pay the salaries of our failed Olympic Committee? If so, how much was it totally?
For years now on just about any job given out what's the first thing you hear when the dispatcher goes to give an assist car?"I'll let you know".We are our own worst enemies.Take your assist the other jobs can wait.
--And Stop Working 10-99.
To 10/29/2009 08:19:00 AM
Ever lock up a guy with a gun? Ever been on the scene of a shooting?
Anonymous said...
The bell tolls for thee: Donahue, Dougherty, Bella, Davis.
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Put a fork in them.... THEY GONE!
10/29/2009 06:54:00 PM
Donahue cannot run for reelection anyway, term limits, this is his last term, always was.
They want to save money, stop giving money away to none-sense.
There going to force is to take mandatory days off, but they still have special employment. NUTS.
Pay me time and one half while I take the day off and work special because we are so short.
Vote and Vote Daley OUT. Vote for change.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/10/complaints-against-police-rise-186-percent-in-1-year.html
da midget's propaganda campaign continues.........
Get rid of unions in this State, County, and City.....you will see everything change!!!....(For the better)
hippy-dipy-1 said...
Some of you have to lern to read. You keep harping on this supposed shortage, and it just isn't there. There are sevral sources for checking the total number of sworn. The most obvious is the Pension Report for this year, which clearly shows well over 13,000 sworn that are paying in as of 12/31. Obvoously some have left since then, but not 2000. Yes there probably are around 9000 D-1's, but that is what is budgeted. Yes some are on medical or limited duty, but I suspect that the percentages are about what they always have been. I know, I know everyone is lying. Well I pretty strongly suspect that the auditors or Northern Trust Bank, or the acturial conlultants have a bit too much at stake to be party to a subtrefuge involving probably what is one of their smaller accounts. Get real.
Now as to the question of whether or not they are distributed correctly, that is an entirely different issue. It appears that manpower allocations could stand some revision.
10/29/2009 10:20:00 AM
You sir are a moron! IF you were correct then a simple math equation can solve this issue. Lets take the last 5 years for example. According to YOU we are currently at full strength. Why dont you go add up how many police officers were hired over the last 5 years then subtract how many retired, quit the job or were fired. My guess is that you would find a fairly significant negatvie number. So unless 5 years ago we were operating OVER the allotted budgeted amount of police officers, we clearly are short officers in the hundreds (at least). You can never go wrong with simple addition and substraction!
Why doesn't the mayor cut the salaries of all these city workers who earn over $125,00 per year? His damn press secretary earns over $160,000 each year, and you know all of the others out there.
CPD? There is no reason commanders should make $147,000 each year. Especially when one commander supervises 350 people and another supervises 33. There's no balance anyway for the amount of responsibility one has.
Shortf*ck should just have the city council vote that all city workers with an annual salary of $125,000 or more will now take a $30,000 pay cut. Theres hundreds of them out there, and that would increase the budget tremendously.
My family can certainly live comfortably with an annual salary of $125,000. None of them should complain.
Has anyone simply demanded to know how many checks are cut on the 1st and 16th to sworn members? I bet it is a lot less than we think.
You know that this is getting ridiculous! The police budget is the biggest expense the city has? If the dipshit big mouthed aldermen would actually engage the few brain cells they may have, they should take a look at the police budget that they rubber stamp. A good portion of that budget goee to nonpolice departments like human services...etc.. what about the political patronage army a.k.a. "C.A.P.S."? The people in charge of the steering commities are treated like aldermen with control over funds and hiring. How many of those positions are appointed by the politicions? How many are relatives? How many jobs are at police garages? All the other support positions that are phone call jobs?
Well it's easier to just fuck the POLICE. It is the most popular game in town. I'm beginning to believe that the union, (?), is so out of touch with their dues payers, that they actually believe what is being said bashing the Police and they don't have the balls to stand up and do their jobs!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE READ & UNDERSTAND
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The mayor and his buddies can not force us to take furlough days, that is correct, But what do we do if he decides to lay off officers. Do we throw the least senior officers under the bus so the rest of us can save 7 or 8 grand. If we do that can we still hold our heads up? I dont have an answer I am just saying...
10/29/2009 12:13:00 AM
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The answer to your question is:
YES, TAKE THE LAYOFF AND WAIT TO BE CALLED BACK!!!!!!!
That is how the Unions & Seniority work. Without it, the mayor divides and conquers
I couldn't agree more. I being one of the many will not suffer for a few. Sorry youngbloods.
Anonymous hippy-dipy-1 said...
Some of you have to lern to read. You keep harping on this supposed shortage, and it just isn't there. There are sevral sources for checking the total number of sworn.
THIS IDIOT SPOUTING THE COMPANY LINE SHOULD LEARN TO SPELL!
PROBABLY AN EXEMPT MERIT PROMOTION!
OT; How does the Commander of the 007th dist remain in Command? He has been in charge there for sometime now and it is clear that no crimes is being sloved, stopped or prevented. How is that? Crime is up and the murder stiuation is out of control. Not to mention he loses his sweater, name tag and Gold star in the parking lot of the district parking lot... How many days would he have dished out if he where back in IAD to some blue shirt for losing his or her star? This guy is a joke and is now at the level of Burger Queen. She is on her way out, so he can take over.
Wer u born yesterday? wake up its chicago baby and thats the way it is done here! U either have Clout or U dont!! GEt use to it. I cants waits till da gold satrs get screwed over too!! Detroit here wes comes
BOY WE HAVE SOME SOFT BALLS IN THE RANKS!
LETS TALK LAY OFF... IF HEAVEN FORBID THERE ARE LAY OFF GUESS WHO GOES 1ST ALL CIVILIAN IN THE DEPARTMENT... DISTRICT MANAGER CROSSING GUARD SUPERVISORS CROSSING GUARD ALL THOSE UPSTANDING OFFICE WORK AT HQ.
LET SAY THEY GET TO THE 3 YEAR WONDER GUESS WHAT THEY ARE STATE CERTIFIED. KEEP UP W/ UR PROFESSION AND U WILL NOTICE MOST DEPARTMENTS WANT OFFICERS ALREADY TRAINED. AND EXCEPT TRANSFER.
AT THE RATE OF 400 PLUS A YEAR RETIRING AND THE GIANT BATCH GOING ON THE NEXT ROUND OF THE 55 AND UP I WOULDNT EVEN SWEAT IT.
I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GENERATE PAPER. NOT ARREST!
THE STATS IS WHAT KEEP J-FED IN A COMFY ZONE. GIVE THE HYPES THEIR ROBBERY REPORTS FOR STOLEN DRUG MONEY. RIGHT UP THE LOST PURSE AS A THEFT. SCRATCH OUT THE BURGLARY TO AUTO AND GARAGES .
WHAT DOES IT COST U?
U AINT GETTING A BONUS FOR KILLING CRIME AND UR WHITE SHIRT FRIEND AINT HOLDING SLIPS SO F@CXEM.
PLEASE START READING AND LAY OFF THE CABLE TELEVISION.
I haven't been on medical in over 8 years... I better hit it soon...I am really missing out and everybody else is cashing in....or so it appears with the numbers..
That's what I get for being too proactive in the career and trying to always be in court to make money or work special....Now I feel like a fool! I could have been a dog!
Guys like me were always in trouble with CR's and overtime abuse etc. ...Fuck I am on the LIST!!!!
I should have milked the medical now I get no chance seems or it sounds like its coming to an end or becomming a tougher nut to crack...DAMN!
Could you imagine if all those medical abusers spent that time in courts like the should have instead of at home?
Probably would have been no reason for contact cards and event numbers and missions and bullshit to justify work of these do nothings!
Oh well...
3 bars
Anonymous said...
Now is the time to mobilize and unite, the people are beginning to see the truth.
This will cost more lives in the future, there is no backup coming in most districts when it heats up. Some watches are constantly running skeleton crews and bumping up the numbers by assigning the wagon as a beat car and beat cars as school babysitters, etc.
10/29/2009 07:59:00 AM
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Trying to do too much with too little... the fate of the LAPD back in the days of Chief Gates.
Lessons will be repeated until they are learned.
This story and more all part of the MANIPULATION of the PRESS byt the City to make us the Police/City worker feel guilty and to unnerve the FOP and PBPA etc. into settling or giving in to the contract negotiations and to make the arbitrator (who probably reads the papers and watches the news feel their City is broke )so they decide on arbitration issues to favor the City..
Ideas:
Cut the Alderman in half or less...We don't need them!
Quit settling with DUDE on their BS Lawsuits....Matter of fact COUNTER SUE the JAGS for all their abuse of City services over their miserable lives.
Fuckin' PAWN the BEAN already!!!
Melt that mother DOWN!
Damn for all the WASTED money DALEY has spent (IE: 50 overpaid Alderman, flower pots, Millenium Park, FIREWORKS on the 4th, shall I keep going?) maybe HE can write a check from his off shore account to help us all out!
SCC:
If the Mayor wants answers to the budget problem, here are some answers, before he screws up everything and ruins families.
1. Close the 023rd and 021st Districts. From the top, you save (2) Commanders and (6) Captains salaries. Further, you put the Sergeants and police officers assigned to the desk, Caps office and the Commander’s office of the two closed districts back on the street. The 023rd District could easily be picked up by the 020th District and 19th District. The 021st District could be picked up by the 1st, 2nd, 3rd Districts. This does not include the savings on operational expenses as well.
2. Reduce the number of Exempt positions by 15. First, when the department was restructured, it appears that Cuelo and Jackson both received pay raises, each should return to the Deputy Superintendent pay rate. All Exempts, above the rank of Commander, salaries should be compressed.
The former Commander of the Academy is still a Commander of what? – receiving a Commander’s salary? There is a Commander of Gangs Investigations and a Commander of Gang Enforcement – make it (1) Commander of Gangs. Make (1) Commander of Narcotics, Intelligence and Vice. Make (1) Commander of MSF and TRU. There is a Commander of the Superintendent's office? How many people work in that unit? What is it a Commander of 10 people? None of the remaining Exempts should be required to take unpaid furlough days.
3. Starting January 1 – all personnel will be paid at their civil service rank, no exceptions. There will only be D-1, D-2, D-2A and D-3. If you didn’t pass a Detective’s exam, then you shouldn’t make more than or equal to a Detective. If you didn’t pass a Sergeant’s test, then you shouldn’t make more than or equal to a Sergeant. These are clout heavy jobs and the pay is not justified. Daley’s bodyguards will go back to the pay rate of patrolmen. How many would leave? When these officers ride the buses, they still get the Sergeants pay, yet their riding buses like us, patrolmen. Before my family loses out on money, these officers should first make officer’s pay. Crime lab personnel should go back to E.T. pay. Homicide Detectives have the same base salary as do Property Crime Detectives. There is no reason why a Crime Lab officer should make Sergeant’s pay and more than an E.T. If they do not like it, the 003rd District has 35 openings. These officers should realize the extra training they receive is valuable to their future. Police Officers assigned to Legal Affairs should not make Sergeant’s pay. Does the Department pay these officers registration fees as well? I bet when this was started, people who received their law degree left the job, that’s not the case anymore, so why pay them more. Drop any of these officers in these clout heavy units and see the amount of applicants apply for these positions at their civil service rank pay. I would. Let’s see, Forensic Investigator or Beat 311. People are not leaving this job. Further, how many of these officers would leave their unit and go back to patrol?
The city should realize that people would take these positions even without the pay raise. This is bull-shit and there are many more positions.
4. Stop the bull-shit tuition reimbursement policy. I'll admit, I haven't used it the way I should, but it's a joke! and now we are going to take off work when money is being wasted. Show up and get an A and the city pays for it. Please.
Yet, because of this shit, we are going to be asked to take 24 unpaid furlough days? Bullshit. The Union should represent what is best for the entire membership, not 100-150 officers and their clout heavy positions. While these people make more money than their rank, we should not be asked to take any days off. And, if these positions are not considered a civl service position, then these officers should be required to take unpaid furo days, not us.
QUESTION==
Does the CPD have a minimum manning clause like the CFD had put in their contract?????
Get it guys and gals !!!!
It sure is one of the greatest benefits we have and you've got to get it too.
CFD
Just to put that into perspective.
Each district has about 380 officers and at 2,000 officers short, that would be equivalent to closing 5 police districts.
Wow is right!!!
Why is Keating over the Central Control Group consisting of the 001 and 018 District? He is a service rank of Sgt. and gets Deputy pay because he use to work on Mayor's Detail.
We have Lt. and Captains that could replace him at lower salary.
Why do the two PATROLMEN Commanders of the mayors detail get commanders pay?
We have Sergeants, Lt.s and Captains that are trained supervisors and not political hacks like Roti from Bridgeport and Carlow who's mother or Aunt was a secretary to the Mayor!
Why does the Mayor's butler aka administrative assistant civillian get a car and a driver to cart his butt to workout, pick up his son (outside the city) and pack the mayors clothes? And why doesnt he work 8 hours a day?
Why does each of the mayor's children have a car with a driver to drive them to work or shopping, or out on the town?
Why does the mayor take members of his detail up to Michigan in city vehicles, paid time and 1/2 to go grocery shopping for the mayor's wife, pick up take out and transport his children back and forth to the city?
Why does the mayor and his family treat his detail with disrespect? He is an elected official and not a King and she is definitely not the Queen although they act like it.
Why does an employee of Special Events out of the Mayor's office get a take home car? Will there be a call out for their expertise?
Why do we have to call the Alderman's office to have City Services implemented near our homes? Each of those City Service ie. Streets and San, Park District, parking enforcement, clerks office....have supervisors and could assign those services without clout Alderman.
Why does Alderjerk Cardenas issue CityStickers to his staff with residential parking identification surrounding his/ their office as opposed to where they live?
Why do Alderjerks have any input as to what laws should be enforced in their respective Wards. Everyday is a suprise as to what we are allowed to enforce...we have supervisors and don't need additional drain on police and fire resources for friends parking, residential parking...
Why does the Park District allow one of their parking lots be used by citizens/residents overnight and anyone else using a Park District lot have to now pay the meter box?
And I am sure you guys can come up with other examples...
2000 short, i call bullshit. 9632, give and take a hundred, duty availability checks were cut in the october check. that means that including white shirts, we only have 9632 bodies available, because even if you are iod or on the medical you still get that check. whos bullshitting now
Something else to think about that maybe you could get clarified SCC...
As I understand, when an exempt member takes an unpaid furlough day, he is off the City payroll. His status is shown as a 'suspension" day. He has no police powers, he is not even suppose to use his police car, because if he gets in an accident - he is not insured...
For that 24 hour period the exempt is a private citizen....
So what happens when we are required to take an unpaid furlough day. Can we still work a side job at public school, what happens when we lock up that 16 yr. old gangbanger who took a punch at us and we crack him. Can we do a TRR??? Can we seek a Agg. Battery to a P.O.??? I doubt it, we have no police powers.
Or how about the guy on an unpaid baby furlough day working security at Sears, Bank of America or a McDonald's and he ends up shooting a stick up man.....We are not acting as the Police.... because we have no police powers that day, when the lawsuit for a wrongful death comes in, will McDonalds pay all you expenses.
Ask around, see if any exempts will comment on this. YOU HAVE NO POLICE POWERS on an unpaid furlough day.......
It's a little more complicated then you think.....
Everyone is saying that Daley will start laying off police officers via seniority. I thought that our contract requires that every civilian employee be laid off before the first sworn officer is laid off. Does this include Masters, O'Keefe, Ladner and the rest of the higher up civilian bosses?????
Fran Speilman we're 2000 short in patrol , crimes down
no money for working police
mayor has money to give sargeants 45 minutes overtime everyday , 1/4 overtime checks worth about $4,000and they only work 8 hours
Pass the test and you too will recieve it you pussy, you play right into Daley's plan of divide and conquor....
The Chicago Police Department has a total of 9,300 Sworn Police Officers;this includes J-Fraud Fed and everyone below him in rank.We are budgeted for 13,500 Sworn Police Officers.This is a Budget Line Item.Whatever funds are not spent on a Budget Line Item are transferred to a City of Chicago Discretionary Fund Account.This Discretionary Fund Account is controlled by Mayor Daley and it is at his discretion how these funds are spent.The Conservative estimate is that $230 Million Dollars have been transferred to Dicretionary Fund Accounts for the Fiscal Year 2009.Mayor Daley has been pulling this creative accounting bullshit for at least 5 years.How many citizens have murdered,raped and robbed;because there not enough Police Officers out on the streets?How many Police Officers have been Killed In The Line Of Duty?Police Officer Francis,019 District was working by himself when he was murdered. How many Police Officers have been seriously injured on duty because they did not have a partner working with them?Mayor Daley does not care what happens to the citizens of Chicago and he most definitely does not care about the men and women of the Chicago Police Department.Mayor Daley is a corrupt and vindictive narcisstic meglomaniac.Mayor Daley is destroying Chicago one day at at a time.
The former Commander of the Academy is still a Commander of what? – receiving a Commander’s salary? There is a Commander of Gangs Investigations and a Commander of Gang Enforcement – make it (1) Commander of Gangs. Make (1) Commander of Narcotics, Intelligence and Vice. Make (1) Commander of MSF and TRU. There is a Commander of the Superintendent's office? How many people work in that unit? What is it a Commander of 10 people? None of the remaining Exempts should be required to take unpaid furlough days.
10/29/2009 11:39:00 PM
Clout is the answer to exempts in those positions. The new way to take care of friends. Hamilton is just a sgt. Now he is a commander of a few officers doing what? Wedster is commander of what when they have a civilian director actually performing the job at R&D. By the way, the academy now has three full time female officers working as secretaries in the front office. One exempt with three offciers!!! Full duty officers. Department will always find a spot for a clouted persons, especially female.
No Police, but let's let the illegals squat here and cause trouble. Why isn't it addressed in the media how many illegals are stopped for traffic violations or traffic fatalities, how many are arrested for drugs and gang-banging, burglary and robbery. The general public has no idea. But let's stop hiring police.
Anonymous said...
With all the automated systems you don't need 13,000 cops. Perhaps just have the supervisors start checking on why 3 cars are down on a one head arrest. Just like with crime scenes, have one PO stay on the scene and the other go out and keep doing jobs. Why waste a whole 2 man car on scene protection? All that's really needed is a proper management of the cars.
10/29/2009 08:19:00 AM
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Are you suggesting the guy on the scene protect it on foot or his partner leave on foot to patrol?
hippy-dipy-1 said...
...The most obvious is the Pension Report for this year, which clearly shows well over 13,000 sworn that are paying in as of 12/31. ...
Anonymous said...
You sir are a moron! IF you were correct then a simple math equation can solve this issue. Lets take the last 5 years for example. According to YOU we are currently at full strength...
10/29/2009 10:35:00 PM
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Ah, I see the MENSA Group has been heard from. I will type really slowly so that you might understand. I don't have to do the math, the Pension Fund auditors have done it for me, and you, if you would take the time to read it and then try to understand it. I did not say the CPD is at full strength. What I said was that the CPD had somewhere over 13000 sworn at the end of 2008. If you look at page 9 of the Pension Report you will see the total at the end of 2008 and 2007 along with the net change, and yes it is a negative number. -375 to be exact. This is a net change which means that you subtract those that left from the number hired to arrive at this number. In other words: At the end of 2007 there were 13,748 sworn personnel, of all ranks paying into the pension, which by the way, I believe is a couple of hundred over budget. At the end of 2008 there were 13,373 sworn personnel, of all ranks paying into the pension. AS someone else stated, if you take the time to do a little research, I am sure that you can find the correct number for today.
Your problem is that you just don't want to believe the truth, and would rather rely on what somebody's brother-in-law's neighbor's boss's cousin heard. How sad!
To the dickbreath poster that is whining about Sgt's getting .75 hrs a day and quarterly pay....I bet on your best day and my worst I still do more work than you pal...You bitch and whine about what I get as a sergeant but when you need time on the front/end and I don't take your slip you dont complain then right?? Or how about when I give you a sickness in family day?? Or when you get a deviation and I am supposed to give you a day and I write a novel and give you a reprimand?? Or when I talk that citizen out of a CR# for you?? Or when we make your vehicle damage parking lot damage?? Or when you don't fill your reports out right or complete your paperwork I finish it for you after you have gone home and I am still at work?? Or when I don't get on your ass for sitting on a bullshit job for an hour while everyone else is handling your jobs and complaining to me about you?? The list can go on and on pal...I think it's best you just shut your pie hole and look in the mirror....I am sure that you have never done one of the above or a sgt has never helped you out of a jam right?? Or mabey you are just one of those know it all jagoffs that always challenge everything and argues everything and hates "white shirts"?? In any event...BELIEVE me my friend...that 45 min a day...I / We earn every min of it and I am sure if you got it ......you would work a whole lot harder right?? A lot harder at complaining and doing nothing...If you are so jealous...take the fucking test,pass,get the promotion and you can then see first hand what we deal with as sgts and how much we do to help our officers out because that IS our job...but a miserable prick like yourself would probably find joy in fucking his former friends over because now...YOU are the jagoff "white shirt". I have seen and know your kind....a big mouth do nothing...so like I said earlier....shut your filthy pie hole...you couldn't shine my shoes.
10/29/2009 11:39:00 PM
#3 your right I work CTA with the anoited coppers making D-3 from daleys and burkes detail. The sgt tries to keep these coppers together so they blow out early,after making the higher rate,because the sgt is scared to not take care of the anoited boys and girls!
Anonymous said...
Why doesn't the mayor cut the salaries of all these city workers who earn over $125,00 per year? His damn press secretary earns over $160,000 each year, and you know all of the others out there.
CPD? There is no reason commanders should make $147,000 each year. Especially when one commander supervises 350 people and another supervises 33. There's no balance anyway for the amount of responsibility one has.
Shortf*ck should just have the city council vote that all city workers with an annual salary of $125,000 or more will now take a $30,000 pay cut. Theres hundreds of them out there, and that would increase the budget tremendously.
My family can certainly live comfortably with an annual salary of $125,000. None of them should complain.
10/29/2009 10:41:00 PM
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Government CITY OF CHICAGO
Name HEARD, JACQUELYN L
Title PRESS SECRETARY
Salary $172,056.00
Start 6/23/1997
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Her salary is over 180K with the raises this was from a few yaers ago,the same girl with the dope houses!
Anonymous said...
Get rid of unions in this State, County, and City.....you will see everything change!!!....(For the better)
10/29/2009 10:31:00 PM
Mayor will you and your girl jackie heard stay off the blog assholes!
Someone go to the Comptroller's office and talk to the staff...I have...the number of checks that are issued to police is 8300
2000 short, i call bullshit. 9632, give and take a hundred, duty availability checks were cut in the october check. that means that including white shirts, we only have 9632 bodies available,
The Chicago Police Department has a total of 9,300 Sworn Police Officers;this includes J-Fraud Fed and everyone below him in rank
I call bullshit. Go to the finance page on payroll. Take all the job title codes from there and then run them on I-Clear. Right now you are about 12,700 total SWORN. This includes white shirts, exempts, everyone with a sworn job title code. And where did you get the duty availablility check # from, the janitor? We need to quit listening to the big mouth asswipes and start digging to find useful accurate info that we can funnel to the press, not crap like these two posts.
Daley must Hang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Six years ago, the Chicago Sun-Times reported that officers racked up 254,580 medical days in 2002 -- 18.5 days for each sworn officer -- thanks in part to a generous medical policy. "
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In the spirit of U.S. Attorney Erik Holder's statement that "Americans are cowards when it comes to discussing race," let us analize these number by first breaking them down by race. Now discuss.
Nobody's afraid, Erik. Nobody's afraid.
Daley and Co are trying their best to put more black eyes on the dept. HUGE coincidence during budget time and our contract time. He's got to let the pubic know that we are all bad people.
Yet, ALL of City Hall sucks. Most of the alderthieves & da mayor should be in the fed pen for fraud, misappropriation of public funds, bank fraud, conspiracy, wire fraud, etc., etc., etc. Why isn't JW all over this like he was with Cozzi???
I'd be a bodyguard for Joey the Clown before I'd bodyguard Burke. At least Joey the Clown doesn't hide behind what he is.
Except that at anytime you chose, you will have people on the medical, on light duty, loa and everything else mentioned in the report. Makes for a great story, but we live with these numbers everyday. So should the city hire 2000 additional over the budgeted amount just to cover this. I think not. Illness, etc is a fact of life. How about taking a hard stance on the assholes who are always on the medical. You know who they are, they know who they are and all they are doing is screwing the rest of us. Legit illness is fine but we have too many dogs that make a career of being on the medical.
10/29/2009 06:00:00 PM
Isn't that why they established the Medical Integrity Unit? You would think not being on the medical for over 5 years or so would help get you into the unit. The paperwork they wanted you to complete was absurd. But that's the highly-paid non-sworn citizen running the show.
Everyone is saying that Daley will start laying off police officers via seniority. I thought that our contract requires that every civilian employee be laid off before the first sworn officer is laid off. Does this include Masters, O'Keefe, Ladner and the rest of the higher up civilian bosses?????
10/30/2009 01:06:00 AM
It sure should include O'Keefe, Shear, and Ladner, however J-TURD and his buddies are all sworn.
They were all exempted from the State of Illinois law enforcement training requirement via an approved application citing their years in law enforcement! They are all police officers and have just completed probation!
What a farce, but still, if they lay off ALL the civilians, the Bureau of Administrative Services wil be a fucking ghost town! Bye-bye Ted O'Keefe, you piece of shit!
At least Joey the Clown doesn't hide behind what he is.
10/30/2009 07:47:00 PM
Now you are clowning....
rock on sarge i will wirk for you anyday
never been on the medical in 17 years, give 12 days a year, with the option of cashing out when i retire. see what the dogs do then
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