Wednesday, October 28, 2009

Another Reason for Referendum

  • If an independent arbitrator awards double-digit pay hikes to Chicago Police officers, there's a good chance the City Council will reject it, some aldermen said Tuesday.

    During closed-door briefings on the status of police negotiations, aldermen vented their anger about the fact that public safety employees who account for 70 percent of city spending have been exempt from furlough days and other cost-cutting concessions.

    Some aldermen also served notice that City Council ratification can no longer be taken for granted.

    "The message given was, it is very likely the Council will reject any double-digit increases in pay for sworn personnel," said Ald. George Cardenas (12th).

The article doesn't state whether or not Cardenas ever graduated from a certified accounting school, but 3 or 4% a year for 4 years isn't a "double digit" increase - that's just keeping up with the rate of inflation, cost of living and the massive tax increases passed by the state, county and city over the past 2 years. Of course, we didn't see these objections when this came before the City Council a few years ago:
  • Some Chicago aldermen are suggesting a change in salary. There's growing support for a pay raise, but the general election may play a role in how much more money they get.

    Chicago aldermen make $98,000 a year for jobs that are technically part-time. However, most council members said they work 24/7 and they deserve a raise. Under state law, they have to vote on salary issues before the election, which forces them to make controversial decisions now. Those decisions can be used against them by opponents come February.

  • Cost of living seems to be a fair request to most Chicagoans.

    [...] The cost of living this year is around 4%. Last year was 5.7%. So it might actually average out at $5,000 over the next four years. That's harder to attack politically than the fixed amount. So we'll see how it plays out over the next few weeks.

Gee, cost of living. Seems reasonable. Especially for police officers and firefighters making much less that the $110,000 per year aldercreatures make.

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187 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

CUT THE FAT! 16 WARDS IS PLENTY. NOT 50. NOT 25.
SIXTEEN WARDS!

10/28/2009 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These Chicago politicians are absolutely the biggest group of thieves out there! They keep getting raises and forking over municipal projects to their friends who reap handsome profits.

Mr. Cardenas, just remember, for every reaction you exert on the police and fire departments, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

I hope this reduction of aldermen gathers steam and puts you and 24 other crooks out on the street!

C'mom, Chicago! Enough is enough! We don't need 50 alderman! Hell, there are only 435 U.S. representatives for the WHOLE country.

10/28/2009 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These asshole aldercreatures think of themselves as a mini Roman Empire. Rome fell and so will you jerks. Those not jailed for corruption will have to re-join the real world.

Those same people you fucked over on the way up are the same ones you'll pass on the way down. Can you picture lynch mobs chasing your scared asses ? It's a nice thought isn't it ?

10/28/2009 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you explain to a non-police officer/non-alderman how the arbitration works? I thought each side presents its proposal, and the arbitrator has to choose one or the other and then that is the contract.

Cardenas's comment implies that the city council can reject the arbitrator's decision. Is that correct?

10/28/2009 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a joke that these clowns can give themselves a 6% raise every year when times are hard. Then expect us to take less and less or possibly give back.

10/28/2009 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wheres the point of contact, i have about 25 sheets printed out. I'm going to hit Clark/Lake & Jeff park. I won't do this until we know somebody will collect them and send it up

10/28/2009 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we pull of a march on Friday?

City Council hearings on Mayor Daley's budget 10 a.m. Friday, when the Water Department, Police Board, Mayor's Office of People with Disabilities and Department of Administrative Hearings are scheduled to testify.

The City Council is slated to hold a public hearing on the budget Nov. 18 and to vote on the budget and any proposed amendments Dec. 2.

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2009/10/city-council-hearings-on-mayor-daleys-budget-start-today.html#swfp=0

10/28/2009 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we really need to get out there and push getting the amount of aldermonster positions cut in half!!

10/28/2009 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley is nudging these aldermen to come forward with these slams against us. The union is in the weak spot.

10/28/2009 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just got my property tax bill and went up 49%.... But my pay has not gone up in several years...I am glad the elections are coming because I will be working every spare minute to DUMP DALEY, MADIGAN both of them and ALL the Alderthiefs...

GET THE WORD OUT DUMP ALL INCUMBANTS, Lets get Chalkie to help with some kind of referendun for term limits.

10/28/2009 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bad argument. Cost of living for the last year actually declined for the first time in recent memory. Social security checks therefore declined for the first time ever.

10/28/2009 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aldermen 24/7?? What a joke! maybe on the take 24/7

10/28/2009 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go for it people, and don't stop.. These ARROGANT Chicago Politicians think we work for them, and it's the opposite way around, but they ALL have to be shown the door, so the next bunch doesn't take us for granted, and tax and steal us into our cities current state of financial ruin. It's not that it should be done, it simply has to be done. Sign and spread that referendum good people, enough is enough....

10/28/2009 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was under the impression that Aldermen are getting paid roughly 120k to date, if we keep up to date with all their raises. Wasn't it 98k 5yrs ago ?

10/28/2009 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous ParatrooperJJ said...

3% x 4 = 12%
4% x 4 = 16%

Looks like both are double digit increases to me.

10/28/2009 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most Aldermen aren't too bright. I think that many believe that the more Police, the better chance that THEY may get caught and go to jail.

10/28/2009 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cardenas-whoever the fuck this useless prick is-and Ed Smiff both be FOOLS.

10/28/2009 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys:

I've said it on here before, and I'm saying it again. In an environment of high unemployment, huge City budget deficits, other City employees taking pay cuts (a.k.a. "furlough days") and a police department that's about as popular with the public as swine flu, your call for raises is delusional.

If you get an arbitrator to say
"10% plus back pay", the backlash is going to make the bad publicit from SOS and Burge and Abbatte and all that other crap look like nothin'.

10/28/2009 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CardenASS, please! How's your gangs doing in 009? Boy YOU are a BIG help getting them under control? mmmmmmmmm

10/28/2009 09:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet the mayor's hand smells an aweful lot like cardenas' ass !

10/28/2009 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you go onto the 12th ward website he offers a meeting with him to address concerns on mondays from 3pm to 6pm. I say we (hopefully a few hundred or so) of us should show up there and ask him in front of his constituents about his discretionary fund and his 6% pay raise. It is about time we put them on the hot seat and open the publics eyes on their pay and how it is distributed. I just called his office and spoke with one of his flunkies that said he would be available to meet. I am serious SCC make a post about this. We need to start putting pressure on this goof and it needs to be done now while it is still fresh and doesn't fade away.

I encourage everyone to call his office the number is 773-523-8250

10/28/2009 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

24/7 ?!?! How many of you are in units where these knucklehead supervisors have panic attacks over non-pertinent crap and they email and call you on days off, furloughs, and personal time, and they want a report NOW!!

FU aldermaniacs! I already gave 100 pages of petitions to folks in chicago schools to keep xeroxing and start signing. Go to VA locales and nursing homes and every city worker who got laid off.

10/28/2009 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget the hotel workers.

10/28/2009 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not A Cop.. These aldercrumbs claim they work 24/4 and deserve a raise..CPD officers are technically NEVER off duty so WTF?? I wholeheartedly Support the men and women in blue..God bless and please stay safe.

10/28/2009 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The men and women have already taken their first casualty in "these economic times". While Daley was quietly downsizing the Department through attrition, Officer Rick Francis worked alone and died alone on midnights. Without question, if Officer Francis had a partner, he would be alive.

The Aldermen, meanwhile, gave themselves a raise. You vilify and demean the Officers on this Department! I think the citizens know who protects them and who picks their pockets.

10/28/2009 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These alderman really have some nerve. They have been "Rubber Stamping" all the money the mayor has been spending foolishly and now they want the police and fire personnel to pay the price! No way! This city really has gone down thne tubes with all this lavish spending by the mayor and his alderman. It's time for them to answer up !

10/28/2009 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Property taxes up 46% in some parts of Chicago

10/28/2009 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HEY............YOU FUCK US

....AND WE WILL FUCK YOU LATER...

NOW...GO GET YOU YOUR SHINE BOX !!

10/28/2009 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Arbitration is only binding on F.O.P. The city can vote down the arbitrators decision.

10/28/2009 10:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why even go through the arbitration process if you nullify the arbitrators decision?

10/28/2009 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are picking a fight with the wrong people!!

I don't see the Shortness letting this happens, he knows the score.

550 layoffs by attrition this year alone, these Alderman are nuts, but then again they are pandering to their constituency of low lifes, scumbags and police haters.

10/28/2009 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Cardenas! What did Daley promise you for opening your big fat yapper? Some TIF $$$ ?

10/28/2009 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tell Dick Durbin what you think of GOVERMENT RUN HEALTH CARE.....
http://ga3.org/dickdurbin/po_poll.html

10/28/2009 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Seisers illegitimate son said...

What i dont get is how the city council can reject it.Isn't there an agreement between the city and fop that we abide by what the arbitrator says.Does that mean if we can stick our grubby little hands into Shortshank's pot of gold the council will reject it.Do we sue?What happens?Brother needs a new couch

10/28/2009 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They're trying to intimidate the arbitrator. Would someone please file a fuckin' unfair labor practice lawsuit on these assholes.

10/28/2009 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for another march!!!!!

10/28/2009 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since the council seems more concerned about passing laws about trans fat instead of serving their constituencies, we could call this the "Cut the City Council Fat Referendum."

10/28/2009 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...

"Another Reason for Referendum"?

After reading the asinine, ignorant and uneducated comments by Alderman Cardenas, which reflect the sentiments of the majority of the fifty spineless sheep, I say: "Another Reason to Do Nothing".

10/28/2009 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'M JUST MAKIN IT FROM CHECK TO CHECK. ALL I GOT IN MY POCKET IS LINT. JUST ONE STEP AHEAD OF BEING HOMELESS. CPD MEMBER

10/28/2009 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hold on to your hats boys and girls, this is gonna be a bumpy ride!

10/28/2009 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We police officers have a lot of knowledge about the aldermen. Maybe it's time we start giving away their dirty little secrets to the press. How many of them call the districts constantly to take care of their personal bullshit and the white shirts jump. Stop jumping for them and start leaking shit about them to the media. Remember who really has the power. We do. These assholes have the nerve to say we don't deserve a raise and we don't work hard enough? Fuck them, their staff and their families. They better hope I don't catch them or their family members speeding or doing shit. No breaks.

10/28/2009 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck MELLON HEAD ED SMIFF. He another waste of taxpayer's money. And while I'm at it Fuck that Cardenas or whatever his name is. Nobody ever heard of this lil weisel before he opened his mouth to say something stupid the lil prick.

10/28/2009 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow cardenas? another hack! Guess the "ed smiff"rule applies,he is the new leader and the other 49 cowards follow his lead! While they get bigger raises and have other businesses, they bitch about cpd! Why does burke still have so many police drivers? unmarked squad cars? why does the treasurer have a fleet of d-3 paid cpd drivers? COME ON ED SMIFF HOW ABOUT YOUR ELECTED FOLLOWERS? NEXT ELECTION DUMP ALL THE ALDERWHORES WE NEED 10 MAX ALDERTHIEVES NO MORE! THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUSHED FAR ENOUGH!!

10/28/2009 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get this! I was just watching the WGN news at noon and one of their lead stories was about hotel workers downtown who are ready to go on strike because of NO CONTRACT. Their contract expired in August 2009. Try no contract for 29 MONTHS! The FOP really is the FLOP and all officers throughout should be voted out. They really don't do much for their DUES PAYING MEMBERSHIP!

10/28/2009 12:16:00 PM  
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10/28/2009 12:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will take 5 days off. On the condition that all po's take the same 5 days off at the same time. 01 July to 05 July.

It would be fun to come back to work and see the destruction. All but nw and sw side of city would be Like somolia.

Imagine the destruction that would take place. Bet we would get a raise after those five days.

10/28/2009 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quit giving me tickets that make my insurance go up and I will pay you cash.

Make that a referendum so neither you are I are breaking the law.
I just prefer to pay cash and skip the cut the city gets and the auto insurance perpetuates.

Just think if you got to pocket the proceeds from fines printed on the tickets or the court settlements imposed in other types of cases.
$50 to roll a stop or 100 to drive 80 on LSD a fukin bargain.

DUI should get ass whipping and pay fine and shovel your walk when snow is over 2".

That got to be wayyyy better that 5%. Just Sayin hows that for civilian silliness?

10/28/2009 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

now the city is quivering because they may have to pony up and give first responders a pay raise--- these alderman must have not gone to daley 101--- you give the coppers a raise and then back door them with a raise in health care contributions out of their pay and you also increase all the copays for office visits and prescriptions--- net result is we may break even which is like losing because everything else has gone up, gas, utilities, auto and home insurance, taxes, etc... nobody came on this job to get rich but it would be nice to get the raise the alderman voted for themselves for their part time job--- unpaid furlo days, no problem it'll be weekends in periods 6-9 and some time in 13b-- no problem.... daley is broke but he had all that money to buy up half of bensenville for his dream runway, 92 million for michael reese complex, 35 million for united to move into willis tower, 50 million plus for olympic bid, several hundred million for millenium park---- mctightwad has plenty of dough, time to pony up...

10/28/2009 01:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Conservatives need to listen to Mark Levin and Sean Hannity on 890AM. They're awesome. We need to stop this liberal, socialist administration and fight back!

10/28/2009 01:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dick - Head said it's about time cpd and cfd realize they need to take furlough days.

Hey Dick! No raise in 2.5 years, every tax and fee in the city, county, and state has increased, your stooge in DC
will be robbing us and you want us to give for your incompetence? No!!

Where has the money for the budgeted police officers we are down go? What hole are you hiding it in? Where's the money from a developer to buy the Reese property, the real value and not the $1 you plan to sell it to a friend for?

What about the aldermanic raise? The one they gave themselves, along with the discretionary fund increase, in order to not loose money when they take furlough days.

In other words Dick, GFY!!

10/28/2009 01:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: What Shortshanks fails to mention as he claims he's pissed off and going to give 25 to 200 dollars rebate on property taxes (his attempt to play good Shanks and buy votes for next election) is that the largest property tax in Shitcago history that he got passed 2 years ago from his rubber stamp fucks in the shitty council are now seen in this bill-2 years later. Shanks said no need for people to bring in all documentation. We have to trust people to be honest. Right Shortshit. Just like we trust you, Vanecko and your thieving son who's hiding in Russia. Keep my 25 dollars Shanks and leave office you POS. Take nephew Vanecko with you after he pays back into our pension all the money he took without you having a fucking clue. You ain't bullshitting anyone Shortstuff.

10/28/2009 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

EVEN IF WE GET A RETRO CHECK , THAT MUTHA IS ALREADY SPENT TRYIN TO GET ME OUT OF THE HOLE THAT EVEN A BULLDOZER COULDN'T GET ME OUT OF. OH WELL, OFF TO WORK SPECIAL.

10/28/2009 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have never been so outraged in my 13 year career. These assholes treat us like the enemy....we just want what is fair. they on the other hand just keep giving themselves raises and perks. Daley on the news today saying he is going after furlough days from the police and fire in arbitration.....we are screwed and they just keep increasing the cost of life for us!!!! We need toi join with the firemen and fight this...24 days without pay...do the math. That is a lot of money.

10/28/2009 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Screw said...

Public safety employees have not been exempt. All of Unit II had a backdoor decrease in salary by taking away holiday and overtime pay, AND gave up retroactive pay on the new contract. The 9.25% over 3 years has not even made up for cost of living and tax increases. To really add it up, our contract ended along with sworn police in July 2007 so those of us who didn't get a step raise during this time haven't received an increase from July 1st 2007 to the 1st of September 2009; 2 years and 2 months at the same salary during the highest inflation rates seen in recent history. But not the mayor and aldercreatures, no sir. They get to VOTE THEMSELVES RAISES. It must be nice to have that type of power.

Yeah you democRATs really know how to take care of the working class. I'll remember that next election time SEIU aka ACORN... but that's another argument.

How about all of us vent our anger about the fact that the mayor and his 50 thieves are the only employees yet to give up anything. I guess you're not exempt from cost cutting concessions either... especially when you can vote yourselves and all of your lackeys raises and increases to cover cost of living.

Here's an idea mayor: make me an alderman and you can keep paying me my shit salary. Or better yet, since I am expected to support my family of 4 on less than 50k, for a vital job, then all 50 thieves can take a pay cut for their part-time, unnecessary jobs. Then since I'm an alderman I can use my political pull to get my wife a job and put businesses in my kid's names so I can circumvent the city's laws against corruption... oops... did I say that out loud?

As far as sworn police and fire being exempt, you can blow it out of your ass, they've made concessions. No raises except step increases since 7/1/2007 and denial of overtime by company-yes men-bosses. Not to mention the lack of proper equipment, the constant fear of lawsuits and the department/j-fed trying to fire every PO who makes a minimal mistake. Or the increased safety issue because the city refuses to hire more POs.

When was the last time an aldercreature was shot and killed? Or attacked while working the lock-up? Or had to listen to a friend cry for help while working dispatch? When was the last time an aldercreature was fired for a mistake?

Maybe the family of Valadez should sue the mayor and the 50 thieves for contributing to his death, or are they exempt from punitive damages unlike every other city employee?

It's amazing how relevant Orwell has become. Is Animal Farm or 1984 required reading anymore, or have the democRATs banned those books from their indoctrination camps... er... I meant public schools.

All totalitarian governments eventually have the people rise up against them.

10/28/2009 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say lets get rid of all of the aldercreatures, theres no need for them, Daley tells them all what to do anyway. That will save millions I'm sure.

10/28/2009 03:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasn't there an alderman who made the idiotic statement,"if an alderman can last 20 years without going to prison, he deserves free health insurance for life and an 80% pension?" Why is that? Are there more temptations as an alderman and they are not the upstanding citizens that they claim to be? If 1 alderscum goes to jail, they are at a 98% good guy rate. If 10 police officers go to jail (doubt that would ever happen) we are at about a 99.45 rate. Yet these assholes vote themselves EVERY perk in the book and the lowly city workers get nothing? We are faced with people wanting to "buy their way" out of everything and in some cases, seeing $500,000 in cash lying on a table. We just say no. When you guys and gals are offered sports tickets, concert tickets, and other things like that...it's okay, but, if the police are offered anything like that from a business owner, jody wants our star and head on a platter. Didn't you assholes take the same ethics class/ quiz as everyone else? Fuck you assholes. If we get a reasonable contract from the arbitrator that you collectively agreed to and then reject it...hold on tight. You pricks get 6% every year. in a four year span, that's 24%. If we get 4% per year in four years...that's 16%. So smiff, you can go fuck yourself and take your chances. I still work because I live where I work and have a sense of pride and community. If you fuck us...your constituents will be made aware as to why we will do our job and nothing more.

10/28/2009 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm retired now. For the last 20 years we have been giving back when the other unions were living high. We have always been treated as second class union members. Most of the "benifits" we we given we traded for pay increases,then the city cut back on them.
Also the department is at least 10%under in manpower, where has all that money been going for years now?? I notice, the "part time" aldermen have no problem stuffing their own pockets at the taxpayers expense.

10/28/2009 03:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get more support going:

http://www.facebook.com/ReduceAldermen2009

10/28/2009 03:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they dont ratify then I might get a massive FLU bug and have to be absent from duties for a long extended time. Don't be dumb gangbanger alderman!

10/28/2009 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a few credits short of my contractual law degree but for most everything in life when two parties seek the intervention of an arbitrator they agree to abide by his/her decision. It's done to prevent shit like this from happening. Now it is very obvious that Ald.Cardenas and the city are not trying to negotiate in good faith with CPD, hopefully the FOP will take the kid gloves off and come out with some ammo of its own.

10/28/2009 03:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What really cracked me up was Daley standing up there saying: "Blame Houlihan" for the increase in property tax. And then giving everyone back $200 bucks from selling off the parking meters.

he has hit a new low in smokescreening and bullshit.

10/28/2009 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Department of Revenue was just down the street in Garcia Ridge. Watched him issue several citations, and waited for him finish and looked in several of the envelopes. NO OR IMPROPER DISPLAY OF CITY STICKER!!

Now I just gotta laugh. Emiliano, Juan and Carlos and Tadusz you got what you deserved! Thats $480 on just one block!! Maybe your wife who works at City Hall can get it non-suited, and a few more democratic party signs on your lawn!

Another nail in the coffin of living in Chicago. DoR targeting the S/W side now.

10/28/2009 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I take un paid days furlo. I promise to god i will take 10 days medical. you heard it here first. I'm fed up with these aldertheives

10/28/2009 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So far I am in total aggrement with SCC. We desperatly do need to pass this referendum. My only concern is who will step up to the plate? How will the administration screw who ever takes the initiative? SCC how many have volunteered? And when do we find out who to send the sign papers to?

10/28/2009 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Conservatives need to listen to Mark Levin and Sean Hannity on 890AM. They're awesome. We need to stop this liberal, socialist administration and fight back!"

**********************************
And Glenn Beck on the Fox News Channel....This guy is unbelievable!!!

10/28/2009 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

....Can you picture lynch mobs chasing your scared asses ? It's a nice thought isn't it ?
Can you picture you calling 911
and having a exhausted calltaker who has worked 4 days of thier work week for 12 hrs with 2- 30 min breaks... to make up a ticket and send to the zone for a dispatcher who is working for free on a holiday,,,so the dispatcher can assigned it to an over worked beat car who is 3 miles from thier beat due to lack of manpower and that will only be assigned after you wait your turn because the 1000 other citizens called before you and I'm in a rap!
ALL THE ALDERMEN SHOULD BE FIRED
YOU HAVE LEFT US THE CITIZEN OUT TO DRY! AND TO ALL THE REVERENDS OUT THERE! GET BACK TO WORK, PREACH THE GOOD WORD AND STAY OUT OF THE POLITICAL ARENA GOVERMENT AND RELIGION ARE NOT TO BE MIXED!!
THIS ISNT THE MIDDLE EAST YET!

10/28/2009 04:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys:

I've said it on here before, and I'm saying it again. In an environment of high unemployment, huge City budget deficits, other City employees taking pay cuts (a.k.a. "furlough days") and a police department that's about as popular with the public as swine flu, your call for raises is delusional.

If you get an arbitrator to say
"10% plus back pay", the backlash is going to make the bad publicit from SOS and Burge and Abbatte and all that other crap look like nothin'.

10/28/2009 09:37:00 AM


Thanks for the input Dick, but all of the issues at the bottom of your pimp can be directly attributed to political and departmental clout. It all starts at the top.

10/28/2009 04:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this news DOR targeting the working areas of the city. They target police stations now as well. I know a few people that gotten parking tickets during their tour of duty.

10/28/2009 04:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley's been laying off police for the last 5 years or more.

Because the FLOP deliberately refuses to point out to the media and the rest of the city that refusing to keep the allotted number of officers on the payroll as the budget has taken from city taxes he is in fact laying off police officers.

Making the police that are still here do MORE work to take up the slack of those Daley laid off by not replacing them.

The media needs to be hammered with all the financial givebacks and reverse layoffs that Daley's been pullin on the police and the public needs to be hammered until they understand that we HAVE BEEN GIVING BACK for years in unchallenged layoffs and financial givebacks to help out this city and that we've given back far more to this city in those terms than any other union or employee group has ever had to do.

Stop allowing Daley to steal the stage with his ghetto boy aldermen trying to intimidate the arbiter and set the public up for a public fight against the police just so Daley can wave his little "fuck you police" stick at us.

DO NOT EVER LET THE PUBLIC FORGET THAT WE"VE BEEN GIVING BACK WITH LAYOFFS AND THAT WE GAVE HIM MILLIONS OF OUR DOLLARS TO BAIL HIS ASS OUT A WHILE AGO.

The more Daley's allowed to keep the show on HIM the less we get the people to understand the truth about what we've had to contend with for years.

10/28/2009 04:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter whether you can actually get this done....it sends a message that we could if we really wanted to.

10/28/2009 04:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Not a medical abuser said...

I know this sounds childish and petty, and it is, but for every forced day off I'm taking two on the medical.

10/28/2009 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

0937 AM. Deal with it. We are damened if we do, damned if we don't. Sp if I am going to be chastised, pay me. Also, our contract ended before the bubble burst, so we should reward the city for holding out for a recession? Sorry, they can chase the Olympics, the Alderman get raises AND fill their coffers, and I have to bite the bullet...too bad. Finally, they have united CPD and CFD, If we get no raise, so be it, but what does the economy have to do with other issues the City wants to kill us on. But hey SEIU can strike during a recession and they are fighting for justice, but we are greedy. So either you are a merit hack or an Obamadrone, either way, go sell your soul, because we will not.

10/28/2009 04:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic humor...
The coach had put together the perfect team for the Chicago Bears.
The only thing that was missing was a good quarterback. He had
scouted all the colleges and even the Canadian and European Leagues,
but he couldn't find a quarterback who could ensure a Super Bowl win.
Then one night while watching CNN he saw a war-zone scene in
Afghanistan . In one corner of the background, he spotted a young
Afghani Muslim soldier with a truly incredible arm. He threw a
hand-grenade straight into a 15th story window 100 yards away. KABOOM! He threw another hand-grenade 75 yards away, right into a chimney. KA-BLOOEY! Then he threw another at a passing car going 90mph. BULLS-EYE! "I've got to get this guy the coach said to himself. "He has the perfect arm!"

So, he brings him to the States and teaches him the great game of
football. And the Bears go on to win the Super Bowl. The young Afghani is hailed as the great hero of football, and when the coach asks him what he wants, all the young man wants is to call his mother. "Mom," he says into the phone, "I just won the Super Bowl!" "I don't want to talk to you, the old Muslim woman says. "You are not my son!" "I don't think you understand, Mother," the young man pleads. "I've won the greatest sporting event in the world. I'm here among thousands of
my adoring fans." "No! Let me tell you!" his mother retorts. "At this very moment, there are gunshots all around us. The neighborhood is a pile of rubble. Your two brothers were beaten within an inch of their lives last week, and I have to keep your sister in the house so she doesn't get raped!" The old lady pauses, and then tearfully says, "I will never forgive you for making us move to Chicago!"

10/28/2009 04:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shortshit blames Houlihan and everybody else for the increase. Shortfuck never takes the blame. His son and nephew rob us blind and he has no idea what is going on with this. Be a man shorty and tell your wife maggie we don't need any more flower pots in the middle of busy streets that cause multiple accidents. Maggie ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer but she married into your crime family. FU U POS.

10/28/2009 04:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just heard that Shortshanks wants us to give up some holidays and furlough days. We haven't had a contract for 28 months, and he's asking us to do what? Mark this is a no brainer - NO. Is there a petition to get Shortshanks to do a pee test.

10/28/2009 05:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

See the sun times, fran has listed the 41st ward as the number one denver boot target area. Taxpaying households, republican alderman, lots of city workers. Why are we targeted? We don't say boo when we're messed with!!!

10/28/2009 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It'll never happen, and here's why. If city council decides to disregard the ruling of the arbitrator, the next step is the union takes the city to court to enforce the ruling. As part of the discovery process, the city has to disclose everything. Everything. The typical 5th floor shennanigans will not play in court. All the secret accounts and TIF
money will have to be disclosed and it will be shown that the city has the ability to pay. Police salary can be paid fro TIF funds, provided there is a TIF in the district or the area near a district, which is essentially the entire city. Shortshanks refuses to use these funds because wasting this money on police puts none in his pocket. If city hall goes against the arbitrator's ruling, the dirty laundry will be aired. In addition, we will never take furlough days as long as we as a group refuse. The only ramifications for refusal are layoffs. It is political suicide to layoff first responders. With the complete lack of hiring, we have effectively experienced layoffs already, this political posturing by the piece of shit alderman is complete BS. At the end of the day they are powerless to do anything of significance, they should have given us a fair contract when they had the chance.

10/28/2009 05:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Guys:

I've said it on here before, and I'm saying it again. In an environment of high unemployment, huge City budget deficits, other City employees taking pay cuts (a.k.a. "furlough days") and a police department that's about as popular with the public as swine flu, your call for raises is delusional.

If you get an arbitrator to say
"10% plus back pay", the backlash is going to make the bad publicit from SOS and Burge and Abbatte and all that other crap look like nothin'.

10/28/2009 09:37:00 AM
Thank you Mr. Mayor.....Are we supposed to bend over and take it in the ass by the little bitch like the other unions?????
We are the POLICE. no matter what you do everyone hates us. I don't remember anyone sticking up for us. We should get what we earned and deserve. We have lost Brothers by doing more with less!!!
I haven't heard about any alderpeople making any real sacrifices for the good citizens of Chicago. Just a bunch of whiney little spoiled bitches. Strap a set of balls on and act like the POLICE.
Isn't it in our current contract that civilian police employees have to be layed off etc... before sworn??
Eleminate the caps program and other usless jobs taken up the police budget and you could save big money. Problem is, most are political relatives.....

10/28/2009 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you look at Illinois State law on pensions, a Chicago alderman only has to serve 2 terms to be eligible for a pension ( 80%) and health care for himself and dependents for life. This also applies to the Cook County Board, Chicago Park District and many other boards , even if they serve for no pay. I was tacked onto the Omnibus Pension bill around 1995.

I would not worry about what some alderman says. It is rare for a court not to uphold the arbitrator's decision. The abritirator would have to come down with a decision that flys in the face of his authority.

10/28/2009 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oct 31st Police holiday. Let the Aldercreatures patrol. Did you know that 5they can carry a gun and some of them do.

10/28/2009 05:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and another reason from sumtimes.com:

Despite Daley’s promise to hold the line on taxes, fines, and fees, Budget Director Eugene Munin acknowledged that the budget includes a 14 percent increase in water rates.

“We took pains to say, ‘No new taxes,’ ’’ Munin said, noting the increase was approved three years ago.

Munin also revealed that, if police and fire join non-union employees in taking 24 unpaid days off next year, it would save the city $120 million.

Daley left little doubt where he stands on furlough days for sworn personnel. But the final decision will be made by an arbitrator.

“Everybody has to realize this is a serious, serious recession and it’s not gonna get better. And everybody has to be part of the solution — not part of the problem,” the mayor said.

Hey, Shortshanks -- YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!!

10/28/2009 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if the alderthief smith is willing to give up his automatic COLA.

10/28/2009 05:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ask Cardenas how many times his office has called the 021st districts Commanders office to try and take care of parking tickets his employees received after they somehow got residential parking stickers to park on a street adjoining his office where they don't live. A P.O. who lives on the street and works in 21 wrote the parkers.... On another topic she was also misfortunate enough to then have a buiding inspector pay her a visit and cite her for amongst other things peeling paint on window frames.

10/28/2009 05:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you explain to a non-police officer/non-alderman how the arbitration works? I thought each side presents its proposal, and the arbitrator has to choose one or the other and then that is the contract.

Cardenas's comment implies that the city council can reject the arbitrator's decision. Is that correct?

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The arbitration is non-binding

10/28/2009 05:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time for another march!!!!!
10/28/2009 11:29:00 AM


Fuck ya ! Right after February


Think about it

10/28/2009 05:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mayor has doubled the superintendent salary,hired 4 or 5 civilians as deputy superintendents , body guards for mayor and aldercreatures

the citizens are unprotected 1 man cars patroling on afternoon and midnight shifts
last pay raise jan 2007 gas is up
real estate taxes cook county tax etc we need a new mayor and only 20 aldercreatures

pass barking dog laws while kids are slaughtered everyday

10/28/2009 05:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3% x 4 = 12%
4% x 4 = 16%

Looks like both are double digit increases to me.

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Ummm, Paratrooper double digit would be for one year. Taking the raise which is spread out over 4-5years and shrilly denouncing the greedy cops for their "double digit" raise is both deceptive and inflammatory.

10/28/2009 05:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Quit giving me tickets that make my insurance go up and I will pay you cash."

Pardone myself, butt ain't that what got those Pollack profiling coppourrs in the 16th Pricinct in troubles a few years backed?

I ain't sayin' nothin'...
I'm just sayin'.

10/28/2009 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Department of Revenue was just down the street in Garcia Ridge. Watched him issue several citations, and waited for him finish and looked in several of the envelopes. NO OR IMPROPER DISPLAY OF CITY STICKER!!

Now I just gotta laugh. Emiliano, Juan and Carlos and Tadusz you got what you deserved! Thats $480 on just one block!! Maybe your wife who works at City Hall can get it non-suited, and a few more democratic party signs on your lawn!

Another nail in the coffin of living in Chicago. DoR targeting the S/W side now.

10/28/2009 04:01:00 PM

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

This is nothing new, it's been going on now for about a year.
Over the summer on one day alone, I counted three different DoR trucks roaming the SW side Clearing/G. Ridge area.

10/28/2009 05:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gangs Tag back of 17th Dist station while Commander Mikey Meahler and Company do nothing to stop crime and home break ins. Time for a change on the Northwest Side

10/28/2009 06:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys:

I've said it on here before, and I'm saying it again. In an environment of high unemployment, huge City budget deficits, other City employees taking pay cuts (a.k.a. "furlough days") and a police department that's about as popular with the public as swine flu, your call for raises is delusional.

If you get an arbitrator to say
"10% plus back pay", the backlash is going to make the bad publicit from SOS and Burge and Abbatte and all that other crap look like nothin'.

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When the economy was rolling along like a financial juggernaut and many in the private sector was getting rich, did you think the police were over paid then, or did you snicker at the lowly cop who put his/her life on the line every day for a mere 60k?

Some of the people that I have worked with are dead or paralyzed. They put themselves in harm's way for the benefit of ungrateful people such as yourself.

Oh, and before I forget, stay off of our website you fucking worthless piece of shit.

10/28/2009 06:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No young person will want to but your house when you retire so get use to stay here until u DIE

10/28/2009 06:06:00 PM  
Anonymous 38 and Gone said...

OT

I would like to address the issue of POs taking 24 unpaid furlo days like ed smiff wants you to do. Can you imagine what manpower would be like with 10% of the department off every day. Using time due, P-Days, V-Days, BFDs would be a thing of the past. Just imagine the juggling of manpower that would follow. I am also sure that you would not be able to take your unpaid days off at your convenience(sp) but when the almighty watch secretary says you can. Do any of these (I wanted to use the term retard but this would denigrate the mentally challenged) alderperps have any idea of what they are taking on. They whine about the children, wait until 10% or more of the department is off in addition to the 7 or 8 % already on furlough and those on medical. Believe me that the bangers will figure it out real quick

10/28/2009 06:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they dont ratify then I might get a massive FLU bug and have to be absent from duties for a long extended time. Don't be dumb gangbanger alderman!

10/28/2009 03:36:00 PM

That" right leave your fellows officer's pick up your slack asshole.

10/28/2009 06:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical FOP, read the fine print! Its not binding arbitration so the city council has final say, once again the FOP doing things half-ass!

10/28/2009 06:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wheres the point of contact, i have about 25 sheets printed out. I'm going to hit Clark/Lake & Jeff park. I won't do this until we know somebody will collect them and send it up

10/28/2009 08:49:00 AM

I NOMINATE YOU TO COLLECT THEM. CAN SOMEONE SECOND THAT!!!

10/28/2009 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These aldermen are crap. How can they use there position to vote out a raise for city workers and vote for city workers to let go or forced to work unpaid yet they don't have a problem voting themselves a raise.

Hey aldermen of chicago, don't use your position to retaliate against the police and fire because we spoke out against the fat and graft you indulge in everyday.

Because you are afraid we might get a referendum to abolish half of the financial abuse occurring in this city at your hands, now you want to play war? Why? Because you feel your positions are not secure? Well now you know what thousands of city workers feel that were let go just so you could keep your salary with its increases.

We've had enough. Don't throw stones at glass houses aldermen.

10/28/2009 06:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I'm a few credits short of my contractual law degree but for most everything in life when two parties seek the intervention of an arbitrator they agree to abide by his/her decision. It's done to prevent shit like this from happening. Now it is very obvious that Ald.Cardenas and the city are not trying to negotiate in good faith with CPD, hopefully the FOP will take the kid gloves off and come out with some ammo of its own.

10/28/2009 03:50:00 PM

I don't hold out much hope of FOP doing anything. They leave us hanging in the wind, time after time.

10/28/2009 06:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mama Luigi said...
NorthSide said...
Let's take a look at the population(*) of the five most populous cities in the United States and the number of city council members (in parentheses):

New York City 8,363,710 (51 members)
Los Angeles 3,833,995 (15)
CHICAGO 2,853,114 (50)
Houston 2,242,193 (14)
Phoenix 1,567,924 (8)

Using extrapolation, excluding Chicago data and based on the four largest cities, Chicago would have only 11 to 18 city council members.

(*) U.S. Census Bureau estimates as of July 1, 2008

3:02 AM: New York City's five boroughs (Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, the Bronx and Staten Island) have a total population of 8,363,710 and is about three times larger than Chicago, not twice. Each NYC council member represents about 164,000 people versus Chicago's aldermen, each representing only about 57,000 people.

10/28/2009 06:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crime Rate up in Chicago, Cook County

Updated: Wednesday, 28 Oct 2009, 12:10 PM CDT
Published : Wednesday, 28 Oct 2009, 12:10 PM CDT

FOX Chicago News

Chicago - Illinois State Police say crime overall was down everywhere in the state last year except for Chicago and suburban Cook County.

Crime dropped 2.2 percent across the state last year. But, it was up 3.1 percent in Chicago and 1 percent in suburban Cook County.

10/28/2009 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

from TRIBUNE BREAKING NEWS:

Daley, aldermen suggest Chicago police officers, firefighters take unpaid days off

Posted by Hal Dardick and John Byrne at 6:22 p.m.

Mayor Richard Daley and some aldermen suggested today that police officers and firefighters take off nearly five weeks without pay to cut city spending next year.

The idea, which the city cannot force on the police and fire unions, surfaced as outside critics and aldermen are questioning Daley’s plan to dip into long-term cash reserves to help pay for his proposed $6.1 billion budget.

“Everyone has to be part of the solution, not part of the problem,” Daley said today when asked if police officers and firefighters should take unpaid furlough days. “And that’s why I’m taking 24 days without pay, and I got other people to take that, because you have to show that government understands the suffering that is going on throughout your communities.”
Daley already has ordered non-union employees to take 12 unpaid furlough days and 12 unpaid holidays, and most unions agreed to do the same. Those measures will save the city $70 million next year.

Earlier this year, two unions rejected days off without pay and found some of their workers laid off.

But police and firefighters, who make up the bulk of the city work force, weren’t asked to take the days off. Both of those unions’ contracts have expired, and the police contract is in binding arbitration, with a decision expected by spring at the earliest. Any concessions are only likely to come after that's settled, if they come at all.

If police and fire unions agreed to furloughs, the city would save $120 million, city Budget Director Eugene Munin said in response to a question from Ald. Anthony Beale, 9th, at a City Council budget hearing today.

“That’s 120 million we could save the taxpayers of the City of Chicago if we had cooperation from just two of the outstanding four unions,” Beale responded.
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Let me put it this way, and I know I speak for the other 250 PO's in my District:

No fucking way! In a pig's eye, when hell freezes over, not a chance, won't happen and lastly, OVER MY DEAD BODY!!

FUCK YOU ALDERMAN BEALE YOU SUCKHOLE SHILL!!!!

Unpaid days off? Fuck you Daley! Fuck you Ed Smith! Fuck you Beale! Fuck you thieving aldermen who rubber stamped all of Daley's corrupt schemes to mis-spend our tax money!

Here, in one word, is my answer distilled to it's most basic element: NEVER!

OK, you guys get the idea now? Have I made my point? NEVER!

10/28/2009 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cut the fat w/ the aldertheives. You can also cut the deputy gold star salaries, get rid of the high-salaried "civilians" running the dept. They are not needed. How about the clouted district manager positions? What exactly do they do that the district cmdr. always did until these 25 "openings" were made at 75G a pop. Who's cousin or wife or brother are district managers???

10/28/2009 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we post which aldermen have a squad car in front of their home 24/7 besides Burke? I know there are more. Why doesn't the media look at that. Yea, let's talk about waste. They want private security, hire private security.

10/28/2009 06:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I for one would like to thank the shithead who I must have cut off on my way to work, because I got the double parking ticket at 24th and Western on a day and time I was 20 miles away. I will find you, you rotten cocksucker, and payback will be a motherfucker. I let the hearing officer know Im wise to the "the driver drove away before I could give him the citation" bullshit. Zabasearch.com is a great tool.

10/28/2009 07:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Alderman may want to have Corp Counsel review the Public Labor Relations Act and the super-majority rejection requirement of an arbitration award, as well as the statutory interest requirement if such a rejection is made. The City cannot afford to reject such an award.

10/28/2009 07:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am retired and have been that way for 2 1/2 years. Just for your information, many cities out west are laying off police and fire. Some of the bigger cities are just using a hiring freeze.


old retired guy

10/28/2009 07:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I solemnly vow to take at least 3 medical days for EVERY forced "furlough" day. I've used the medical for a total of 10 days in 17 years, I've got more than enough to finish my career!

I encourage you all to do the same.

10/28/2009 07:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bad argument. Cost of living for the last year actually declined for the first time in recent memory. Social security checks therefore declined for the first time ever.

10/28/2009 09:19:00 AM

How is this possible? Every tax is higher! Food costs are almost double what they were 3 years ago! Gas is on the way to +$3 again!!!! Insurance premiums go up every year! School tuition goes up every year! WHO'S COST OF LIVING WENT DOWN?!?!?

10/28/2009 07:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT - Am I crazy or is the amount of Midwest terrorist activity on the rise. FBI kill IMAM in Detroit today, two arrested in Chicago this week, Illinois farm raided last week, oh and our very own former Maniac Latin Disciples Jose Padilla....

GREAT TIME TO CUT POLICE, don't worry the federal government will take care of terrorist...not! $$

10/28/2009 08:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about Springfield? We should have the number of districts. Coverage was designed during the days of Lincoln and mules a the pony express. Did somebody mention Washington? vote out half the wards, then lets get after Springfield and Washington.

10/28/2009 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

STATE LAW WOULD HAVE TO BE CHANGED TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF ALDERMAN AND BESIDES THERE IS HOMERULE SO KEEP WASTING YOUR TIME AND ENERGY! YOU FAIL TO FOCUS ON ME AND I LUV YOU ALL SO MUCH-Signed Daley

10/28/2009 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Arbitration is only binding on F.O.P. The city can vote down the arbitrators decision.

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The spineless alderscum can talk all the shit they want about striking down the arbitrators decision. With there eight grade education, even they know that move would be too expensive for the city to defend in court. they will all get up on the council floor and cry like bitches how we are all overpaid after which they will vote with the arbitrators. decesion. The city council is nothing more than hot air.

10/28/2009 08:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My property taxes just went up. I have to come up with $200.00 more a month....is my raise going to be at least that much...since I am forced to live in this city?

10/28/2009 08:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FLOP will not do anything! They will adhere to the established warfare dictated by the Politician in chrge of our union. Lest you forget, he was appointed a youth investigator by CLOUT and was a LOBBYIST in Springfield before gaining control our bargaining agent. MD appears to have no balls or no will to fight for us. File the suit alleging unfair labor practices. Put those a-holes on the defensive.

As for the rest of them...some of them see too many $$$ from meetings, traioning seminars, lunches and dispensations to do what is right.

This is going to be a long and bumpy road w/o benefit of Prep-H.

10/28/2009 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so just received my tax bill and it is up boo-koo bucks from ($1800) from last year. NO OT! NO CONTRACT! What a joke...common 20 and out.

10/28/2009 08:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Old Timer said:
How come the FLOP is not coming out and sticking up for you boy's.I know they keep they fuck'n mouths shut so that when they retire there political job is there for them. Boy's you need someone who will go on Radio and TV and tell the sheep I mean the public what time it is, someone like that kid sheilds that ratted out hubbie men trying to steal our pension money. Enoughs enough time for the gloves to come off boy's remember they drew first blood by opening there mouths which they do best, and started laying the ground work for a no nothing contract. Maybe shortfuck can sell the CPD off along with the water dept and the new sign at O'hare will read Welcome to Chicago owned and sponsored by COKE.

10/28/2009 09:05:00 PM  
Anonymous PillowTalk™ with Leo and Mary said...

Who cares? We milked the political teet dry YEARS ago. We'll married and retired in less than a year anyway.

10/28/2009 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought an arbitrator's decision was binding ?????

10/28/2009 09:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just looked up the Cook County Treasurer site for my new tax bill and mine was already available online under the "Pay Current Year's Taxes". My tax bill went UP almost 30%! And I'm sure my property value is down that much.

I will volunteer to campaign for anyone who will run on the platform of cutting the aldermen in half. How dare they complain with everyone making less and getting taxed more. It's not sustainable.

10/28/2009 09:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just listened to the news!! Aldermen and Mayor want the police and firemen to take 24 furlough days. Mayor said, they have to realize that we are in trouble financially,something like that. Ald. Suarez said he does not understand why they can't take furlough days????????? Maybe, the aldermen and the Mayor can give some of their pay, rescind their raises they just voted themselves and cut their staff!!!! We have been working without contracts for over two years and it looks like a contract will not happen before the first of the year. We are already working with salaries that do not cover all the cost of living, the raising of the taxes and all the other taxes they keep putting on us for the past 2 1/2 years. HELL NO!!!!!

10/28/2009 09:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
3% x 4 = 12%
4% x 4 = 16%

Looks like both are double digit increases to me.

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Ummm, Paratrooper double digit would be for one year. Taking the raise which is spread out over 4-5years and shrilly denouncing the greedy cops for their "double digit" raise is both deceptive and inflammatory.

10/28/2009 05:52:00 PM

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

But that is what shortshanks does best.

10/28/2009 09:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the same idiot not 1 month ago wanting to purchase a large amount of gunshot detector systems that were tested and proven not to work. Let's do something big that will make a lot of noise and let's do it now.

10/28/2009 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous $bigMONEY! said...

24 furlough days will be on the 4-2 calendar...


thats alot of cash what would be worth that too us?

if the city wants to negotiate
may be it time too pony up.

RESIDENCY!!! GIVE US THE ABILITY TO MOVE OUT AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF YEARS ON THE JOB 10-15 SOMETHING REASONABLE.

THE CITY CAN SAVE ALL THE MONEY THEY WANT THEN TO BUY ABANDONED HOSPITAL AND HOST PARTY FOR MS FATTY OPRAH!

IM WILLING TO GIVE SOME TO GET SUM. WHAT IS THE CITY WILLING TO PONY UP.... MARK R U LISTENING?

TELL THE MAYOR WE WILL CONSIDER SERIOUS OFFERS!

2ND OFFER
ALL PROMOTIONAL TEST GRADED ON THE SPOT AND NO MORE MANAGEMENT PICKS EVER... DICKS/SGT/ET/BOMB TECH/LT ALL THESE SPOTS.

COST THE CITY NOTHING AGAIN! THEY CAN WHINE ABOUT NO BLACK AND HISPANICS LATER.

THINK BIG PRESIDENT DONAHUE U R ON UR WAY OUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN-- U COULD SUCCEED.

OFFER 3

INTEREST ON ALL BACK PAY 2 OR 3 PERCENT. FRONT END THE RAISE TO THE 1ST 2 YEARS OF R EXPIRED CONTRACT.
AND LIMIT THE FURLOUGH DAYS TO A CERTAIN YEAR NO OPEN ENDED BULLSHIT. FURLOUGH DAYS WILL BE CONNECTED TO ARE ACTUAL FURLOUGHS AND WEEKENDS.

I COULD GO ON AND ON!
WE HAVE A BOARD AT THE FOP THEY NEED TO BRAINSTORM AND QUIT BEING SCARED...

PUT THE OFFER IN WRITING AND HAVE A NEW CONFERENCES. HAND DELIVER THE MEMO TO EACH ALDERMEN W/ THE DEMAND OOPS I MEAN IDEAS. PUT IT BACK ON THEM LET THE NEWSPAPERS CRUNCH THE NUMBERS. IF QUINN CAN BE GOVERNOR ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

10/28/2009 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT Armed Robbery w/ gun tonite in 016 - Imaly and Normandy. M/2 M/4 unk vehicle. Be alert people, this is where we live.

10/28/2009 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city can get out of the financial bind very easily. Just declare bankruptcy. Huston is considering it. California has considered it and now there is talk of Oregon actually considering it to get around the pension funding. A couple of cities in California have already done it. They cut personnel ( seniority does not matter) and cut pension payments.
In bankruptcy , all those promises, contract,etc. become worthless.

10/28/2009 09:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just commented about bankruptcy. I am sure someone will respond about the money that has been " put away". There is probably such a big budget gap in the next year that they could blow through the whole amount , then declare. I wonder if it has been seriously considered?

10/28/2009 09:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Conservatives need to listen to Mark Levin and Sean Hannity on 890AM. They're awesome. We need to stop this liberal, socialist administration and fight back!

10/28/2009 01:33:00 PM

Amen brother. There is a Conservative ascendancy coming. We need to throw these Socialists out and reclaim our country.

10/28/2009 09:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its time to stick together brothers and sisters in blue, never give up your money, never!!! STICK TOGETHER

10/28/2009 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tired of this nonsense that the city is putting you through? Visit

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

10/28/2009 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Love it!!!!! let's close whole districts for a period at a time!!! No follow up in areas a period at a time !!! Attach it to my furlough !!!

10/28/2009 10:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wish you had been this passionate about unpaid furloughs for your city co-workers who got 24 unpaid furloughs, and no cost of living, and no over-time. If you don't want to give anything up...then stick up for the rest of us who have the same expenses you do.

10/28/2009 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope they try to play this shit. It will radicalize this department like never before!

We have young educated people on the job now who won't settle for shit! They know what time it is!

In Philadelphia, the transit workers, who are nine months without a contract, called a strike next week during the world series! That is what we need here.

Daley, you stupid fuck. You move, we move.

If it comes to this , good, GAME ON!

We need this, let's bring it on! We can hurt them worse than they can hurt us. BRING IT ON!

10/28/2009 10:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would think about taking some unpaid furlough days if they would have gave us a contract on time with a god raise. Now their asking with 2 1/2 years expired on our old contract... HELL NO!!!!!

10/28/2009 10:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Times are getting real tough in my house. Does anyone know how I can get my money out of my deferred comp?

10/28/2009 10:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cease was released on $20,000 bail Wednesday by U.S. Magistrate Judge Morton Denlow, authorities said. His attorney could not immediately be reached for comment.

The case comes after the inspector general's office suggested this week that Suzanne Malec-McKenna, Mayor Richard Daley's environment commissioner, should face suspension for alleged hiring abuses.

In the Trib........but Daley is NEVER held accountable.

10/28/2009 10:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a joke from good old news in shitcago. Remember that the "C" in CBS,NBC and ABC stands for COMMUNIISTS. Their reporting is a joke, despite giving a brief view of this site and a glkancing mention to the alderman reduction idea, how about a news crew do some comparisons with other cities in that regard. OR they could have done what they always seem to do, copy & paste the info from here or other simila sites and pawn it as their own.

Oh yeah and the best part of the news "story"...

The unions were unavailable for comment. Hey MARK....swing and a miss. What a lost opportunity to shed some light on Ali-Daley and his 50 thieves. You could have mentioned their raises or thei staff's or maybe their discretionary funds, the underfunding of our pensions, low-hiring numbers and theft of millions in grants that were supposed to go for new POs and equipment.

Our "Union" [gag]



Thanks for nuttin.

10/28/2009 10:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If and alderman takes a day off no one would feel it. If a copper or a fireman takes a day off everyone feels it.

10/28/2009 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's funny how New York coppers got a 5% a year raise for the next 4 years without having to go to arbitration. I know, because they have a good mayor that knows how to run a city and knows how important the police are. they alos didn't waste time and money trying to get the olympics too.

10/28/2009 10:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mayor said, they have to realize that we are in trouble financially,something like that. Ald. Suarez said he does not understand why they can't take furlough days?????????

I RARELY SWEAR ON THIS BLOG EXCEPT A BIG FUCK YOU TO THE MAYOR. I HOPE FOP DOESN'T CAVE ON THIS GOOF'S IDEA ABOUT NO RAISE, UNPAID FURLOUGHS AND RETRO. AND, WHO IS WRITING ALL THESE PARKERS FOR CITY?

10/28/2009 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley left little doubt where he stands on furlough days for sworn personnel. But the final decision will be made by an arbitrator.

“Everybody has to realize this is a serious, serious recession and it’s not gonna get better. And everybody has to be part of the solution — not part of the problem,” the mayor said.

Get ready,here it comes.

10/28/2009 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) unit 701 (mass trans) got a petition signed for the 4 and 2 schedule, the commander is for it, but donohue is saying NO! Hey marky mark thought this was "our" union,who the fuck are you to say NO? We want it,just another reason your lackeys will be thrown out of office next election! The dept can set hours we want it,and just heard the airports did the same,all signed and ready can you do it? OUR UNION OUR RULES,ENJOY THE HUGE PENSION YOU WILL GET BUT RETIRE NOW! MARK YOU MADE SURE YOUR DETECTIVE FRIENDS FROM AREA 2 GOT THE GREAT 10 HOUR DAY SCHEDULE BUT YOU SAY FUCK US?

10/28/2009 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

go on the medical... no way. it's iod all the way. get back your taxes as well. make the most out of it. i see a foot chase and fall in the future. ouch, my back...

10/28/2009 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Can we post which aldermen have a squad car in front of their home 24/7 besides Burke? I know there are more. Why doesn't the media look at that. Yea, let's talk about waste. They want private security, hire private security.

10/28/2009 06:59:00 PM

And a $300,000+ cpd blue light camera monitored 24/7+ the fleet of police bodyguards!

10/28/2009 10:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I have never been so outraged in my 13 year career. These assholes treat us like the enemy....we just want what is fair. they on the other hand just keep giving themselves raises and perks. Daley on the news today saying he is going after furlough days from the police and fire in arbitration.....we are screwed and they just keep increasing the cost of life for us!!!! We need toi join with the firemen and fight this...24 days without pay...do the math. That is a lot of money.

WELCOME TO THE CLUB, ROOKIE..

10/28/2009 10:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone get the results of the poll they did on WGN regarding us taking unpaid furlogh days?

10/28/2009 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous HATER said...

j-fed u can be the man u think u r now.

SHOW ALL US CORN-FED OFFICERS THAT U WILL SACRIFICE 24 DAY OFF W/ OUT PAY!

LEADERSHIP STARTS FROM THE TOP DOWN.

SHOW US O GREAT ONE THAT U DONT MIND LOSING A MONTHS PAY!

SHOW DA MAYOR HE MADE THE RIGHT CHOICE IN PICKING YOU OVER ALL THE OTHER EXEMPTS.

LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND DO MORE W/ LESS.

ILL WAIT 4 UR PAX 501 ANNOUNCING THE SACRIFICE U AND UR FAMILY OF HOUSE CATS ARE WILLING TO MAKE TO SAVE THE CITY.

WELL JODI WHAT DO U THINK SHOW ME HOW TO BE HUMBLE !

10/28/2009 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can someone tell me why officers are still chasing cars?

10/28/2009 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley is worried about tappin into his reserves??? What the hell did he sell all the stuff for? The citys bond rating won't change if he takes form it, it's money they never had in the first place. All smoke and mirrors... This wouldn't have been an issue if they would have settled our contract when it expired. 2 1/2 years they have been sitting on our money, to cry poor now... What a joke....

10/28/2009 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

given the historic and systemic corruption in city politics (and county and state poltics, for that matter), for shortshanks, and/or any of the aldermen, to suggest that the cops and/or firefighters, should take 5 weeks of unpaid days.....they can go to hell...

10/28/2009 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't we(the police)run one of our own for Mayor under a 3rd party situation.

10/28/2009 11:18:00 PM  
Anonymous SHOEBACCA said...

ILL TAKE A FEW UNPAID DAYS OFF IF I GET TO LIVE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY!!!

10/28/2009 11:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What exactly do you propose Mark Donahue do? What leverage does a union boss of some 10,000 (whatever number you want to come up with) members have against Daley? None. Go to the media and state your case? That will backfire for sure. No one struggling in this economy will have sympathy for us. All Daley has to do is parade the full year of paid medical in front of the public and any sympathy for us is out the door.

There is only one solution. Start organizing for the next mayoral election and work to get Daley out. Even if Daley wins, and he most surely will, a strong showing by an opponent can initiate leverage against Daley and strenghten our power.

10/28/2009 11:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It'll never happen, and here's why. If city council decides to disregard the ruling of the arbitrator, the next step is the union takes the city to court to enforce the ruling. As part of the discovery process, the city has to disclose everything. Everything. The typical 5th floor shennanigans will not play in court. All the secret accounts and TIF
money will have to be disclosed and it will be shown that the city has the ability to pay. Police salary can be paid fro TIF funds, provided there is a TIF in the district or the area near a district, which is essentially the entire city. Shortshanks refuses to use these funds because wasting this money on police puts none in his pocket. If city hall goes against the arbitrator's ruling, the dirty laundry will be aired. In addition, we will never take furlough days as long as we as a group refuse. The only ramifications for refusal are layoffs. It is political suicide to layoff first responders. With the complete lack of hiring, we have effectively experienced layoffs already, this political posturing by the piece of shit alderman is complete BS. At the end of the day they are powerless to do anything of significance, they should have given us a fair contract when they had the chance.

This is a very wise post...

10/28/2009 11:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDxFYD0usmA

nice video..thanx billybob

10/28/2009 11:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP and the City agreed to the early retirement package that would save about $40,000 per officer if 160 agreed to retire by 1 Nov.

Didn't get enough to agree, so the deal is off. If the city were smart, they would take what they can get, even if only 50 retire.

The reason this city is in the financial trouble it is is because of the Mayor and the City Council. They should take the lead.

The Aldermen give back their raises and slush funds. That is close to $80M a year.

No raise and a salary cut? Then drop the residency requirement.

10/29/2009 12:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:
Here, in one word, is my answer distilled to it's most basic element: NEVER!

_________________________________

That pretty much sums it up boys and girls.
Daley and 50 thieves can suck a fat babies Dick.
Pun intended.

10/29/2009 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's hire Acorn to get the petitions signed. Wouldn't that be a kick in his balls!

10/29/2009 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's an idea, how about we all take our 24 days all at the same time. See how well that works out for you Dick. All 9500 of us off all at once. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. I have one word for you... ANARCHY.

10/29/2009 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys:

I've said it on here before, and I'm saying it again. In an environment of high unemployment, huge City budget deficits, other City employees taking pay cuts (a.k.a. "furlough days") and a police department that's about as popular with the public as swine flu, your call for raises is delusional.

If you get an arbitrator to say
"10% plus back pay", the backlash is going to make the bad publicit from SOS and Burge and Abbatte and all that other crap look like nothin'.

10/28/2009 09:37:00 AM

Good, I really don't care. The City had the chance to bargain in good faith prior to the economy going down the toilet and did not. The money has been budgeted when our contract ended and it's still there along with the olympic money. All of us work and get nothing from this City in addition to our pay. Why? because we earn a living and don't expect a handout. We expect a fair raise for the thankless job we endure. Also, to off set the taxes we are forced to pay to support these politicians and all the free loaders in this City. The City will continue to bash us whether we get a raise or not. Give me my damn raise! and to hell with what other people think. Be safe.

10/29/2009 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The Alderman may want to have Corp Counsel review the Public Labor Relations Act and the super-majority rejection requirement of an arbitration award, as well as the statutory interest requirement if such a rejection is made. The City cannot afford to reject such an award.

dont cut people off then...and definatley dont be a snich

10/29/2009 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone catch the video on Youtube "Selling out the Community", in which citizens with a video camera caught Anne Duncan, Michael Scott, Ricky Hendon and Danny Davis having a secret meeting in the back of Edna's restaurant at Kedzie and Madison.

Anne Duncan's face tells the tell!!!

Why have the so called NEWS MEDIA not picked up on this?

10/29/2009 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MY TWO CENTS (1 of 2)

I am happy to have a job, happy to be able to scrape by as I watch others being laid off, and realize that the security I counted on in taking this job, though it paid a lot less than others, is a real benefit when the economy slid off the cliff.

But, working without any raise for over two years AND THEN being told that I need to sacrifice more is the point where I, and the rest of my brothers and sisters, must draw the proverbial line.

You, meaning those who received pay increases over the last two + years (Aldermen and staff) can not say you have yet sacrificed. Police and fire have and continue to do so...we have traditionally chased inflation in salaries and benefits because the City has always relied on the extended contract process. It is a game and provides a "free loan" to the City for years on end as the negotiation process, then the arbitration process, linger. In the mean time, that money draws significant interest. Or provides for other City services. Or bolsters bond ratings as it sits in City coffers. In any and every way, the extend negotiation process serves the City financially. Anyone can try to poke a hole in this argument, but it is merely denying the reality of the situation.

Your threats of layoffs/time off are truly insulting. Mr. or Mrs. Alderperson, your individual raise of 5% or 6%, whichever it was, over the last year would have covered the raise of three to four of us. How is that leadership? Your collective raises, if each was individually in the realm of $5000.00 annually, would have funded 10 full-time City jobs at $50,000 a year....whatever City agency they would be employed in. And then, of course, in the back channels, you realize that your raise covers your "furlough days" that you are so selflessly going to sacrifice, right? This is a real story that I hope someone looks into down the road. By my inadequate math skills, if you take 24 days off, you now will work 24 days less a year AND earn approximately the same amount of money, right? What a deal.

10/29/2009 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MY TWO CENTS - page 2

Then, of course, there is the allocation of whatever resources the Department has left. Police have suffered layoffs, but in the manner of many for-profit organizations in that we are being downsized by attrition. When the contract is settled, and it will be someday, whatever the result, the City will be down another thousand or so cops. The City is not replacing them and creating a very dangerous situation in exchange for placating the flaovr of the day special interest groups. Police officers are not interns that can take up a new job and excel at it immediately upon being hired. It takes time. It takes street experience and a revolving, experienced personnel group to teach. This is why the military has stop loss. Last I checked, the Department does not have the ability to enact a stop loss like the military.

There are more questions here than answers, but this is reality. The City must hire to replace and offer a competitive salary to get good candidates to choose a career with this Department. The impact of failing to prepare will be felt by citizens of this City down the road.

And what do we know about poor economies? Crime increases. And because trends lag behind reality, it will continue to increase. This is indisputable, yet, our leaders advocate fewer police (24 days off) on the street to save money? This is foolish, if not downright irresponsible.

Can you not see where this road leads? What happens when that son, daughter, father, or mother is being shot at and there is nobody to respond to protect them? (police) Or having a heart attack? (paramedics) Or a house is burning? (fire) And there are just not enough of us to get there in time. Think the City might get sued? What will that cost? Not to mention the fact that that particular person pays an individual price with his or her health, life, and property when a service that is expected to be provided through their tax money when they need it the most is denied them.

I like helping and protecting people. It is why I chose this job above all other callings and despite the aggravation, I still look forward to work every day. But I also realize that someone has to point out that I do not do it for free and also want, though don't have a reason to expect, to be treated fairly. This does not only mean give me a cost of living raise , but give me the resources (more police officers and equipment) to do it well. We sacrifice every day. And we will continue to sacrifice despite whatever comments you make in public against the police without consideration to the position you are in on your pedestal. And we will still protect you, as best as we are able, from the same harm that could be thrust upon any person in this City. But please, Mr. and Mrs. Alderman and Mr. Mayor, do not vilify those who have given more, all the way up to the ultimate sacrifice of their lives, serving this City because your budget is off and we protest when asked to sacrifice mor

10/29/2009 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unpaid furlo days is bullshit!

The police department and fire department are already understaffed.

This is first and foremost a safety issue. There are not enough cops to backup other officers as it is.

Secondly, the politicians fucked up this budget by their constant unrealistic revenue projections and the continuous increase of muncipal projects that are over budget, but fattening the pockets of their select "business partners".

In summary, FUCK YOU, you asshole aldermen and mayor.

All of you make not just your municipal salary, which is disproportionate to a "part-time job", you also have lucrative incomes from your side business or law practices.

If there are any unpaid furlo days for the police or fire, after all of the bullshit the good sworn members have had to endure, you got another guess coming.

10/29/2009 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Time for another march!!!!!

10/28/2009 11:29:00 AM
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No Offense boys and girls but I am not sure if this is the right idea at this time.....

We may be better off just letting this shit ride out and not FALLING for the "lets march bull"

Because I think the average citizen in this Democratic City does not want to see the "overpaid/employed" police and fire people prosper when their lives are being ecnomically shattered.

Why don't we just be patient and see wha the arbitrator decides before we march!

Just a suggestion!

10/29/2009 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time to dip into that FOP money and hire a media relations firm to start setting the record straight.
Where the fuck are the unions.
You want furlough days, We want residency.
You want pay cuts, We want free medical.
Now speak up!!!

10/29/2009 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am retired and have been that way for 2 1/2 years. Just for your information, many cities out west are laying off police and fire. Some of the bigger cities are just using a hiring freeze.


old retired guy

10/28/2009 07:32:00 PM
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They are doing it here too. Calumet City P.D. (Illinois) members of FOP Lodge #1 (The 1st and oldest FOP Lodge in Illinois) Just laid of several sworn personel. The city told them take paycuts and provide givebacks or we'll institute lay-offs. FOP said no way, calumet city said oh well!

10/29/2009 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Can we post which aldermen have a squad car in front of their home 24/7 besides Burke? I know there are more. Why doesn't the media look at that. Yea, let's talk about waste. They want private security, hire private security.

10/28/2009 06:59:00 PM"

Who will pay for the "private security". Maybe we can have a Time-and-a-Half Overtime Program to babysit for the aldermen. I'll sign up and wear a wire, and take photos of the bagmen coming and going.

10/29/2009 03:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another Aldercreature this city can do without is that police hater Ald. Ray Suarez. Talk about a pain in the ass. He was speaking at the council meeting about Police and Fire not being special and they have to do their part to fix the budget. Anyone interested in running against this dumb MF? We can get plenty of officers (especially from 25th district) who would gladly help that effort.
SCC how about you present all the signed sheets. You started this. So you should stand up and take credit for it.

10/29/2009 05:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you have to live in Chicago to turn them in?

10/29/2009 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you get an arbitrator to say
"10% plus back pay", the backlash is going to make the bad publicit from SOS and Burge and Abbatte and all that other crap look like nothin'.

10/28/2009 09:37:00 AM

Is that sarcasm or silliness?

10/29/2009 06:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does anyone care aboutwhat the citizens think??? Seriously, obviously you haven't read the comments section of any news articles regarding anything police, even if its good. The public does NOT like us. I am tried of trying to appease the general public, they do not care and never will. THEY DO NOT LIKE US. You give in now, we are screwed forever. The budget is their fault, not ours.

10/29/2009 07:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Times are getting real tough in my house. Does anyone know how I can get my money out of my deferred comp?

10/28/2009 10:28:00 PM
_____________________________

I just did it. There are only certain circumstances you can take money out. The only thing I had that applied were medical bills. I filled out the form and attached all of the explanation of benefit forms from the last 12 months from BCBSIL's website.

Call deferred comp and ask for the paperwork.

10/29/2009 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They'll never do it.

They like stalling negotiations because they don't have to pay interest on retro pay, but once they reject an arbitrator's ruling and push the whole contract into court, the interest payments go right back on the table.

Plus, they're very likely to lose any challenge to the arbitrator's ruling.

10/29/2009 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
What exactly do you propose Mark Donahue do? What leverage does a union boss of some 10,000 (whatever number you want to come up with) members have against Daley? None. Go to the media and state your case? That will backfire for sure. No one struggling in this economy will have sympathy for us. All Daley has to do is parade the full year of paid medical in front of the public and any sympathy for us is out the door.

There is only one solution. Start organizing for the next mayoral election and work to get Daley out. Even if Daley wins, and he most surely will, a strong showing by an opponent can initiate leverage against Daley and strenghten our power.

10/28/2009 11:29:00 PM

Gee mark your up late,now go to bed! Can you do anything? Just read another thread above this one where you don't want to implement 4 and 2 for 701 and airports? Why? They want it YOU DO IT!!

10/29/2009 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT Armed Robbery w/ gun tonite in 016 - Imaly and Normandy. M/2 M/4 unk vehicle. Be alert people, this is where we live.

10/28/2009 09:35:00 PM

This is where "we" live? Thanx for the heads up Sherlock...

10/29/2009 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you get an arbitrator to say
"10% plus back pay", the backlash is going to make the bad publicit from SOS and Burge and Abbatte and all that other crap look like nothin'.

10/28/2009 09:37:00 AM

Is that sarcasm or silliness?

10/29/2009 06:36:00 AM

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Neither. It's Mayor Daley's staff trying to divide and conquer the Police Department.

10/29/2009 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wish you had been this passionate about unpaid furloughs for your city co-workers who got 24 unpaid furloughs, and no cost of living, and no over-time. If you don't want to give anything up...then stick up for the rest of us who have the same expenses you do.

10/28/2009 10:10:00 PM
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You must work with some real assholes, to be so bitter. In my unit, we took up a collection to help out the civilian who had to take unpaid days.

10/29/2009 02:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I RARELY SWEAR ON THIS BLOG EXCEPT A BIG FUCK YOU TO THE MAYOR.

Such language...no wonder he doesn't love us.

I HOPE FOP DOESN'T CAVE ON THIS GOOF'S IDEA ABOUT NO RAISE, UNPAID FURLOUGHS AND RETRO.

Thankfully for FLOP, it's not their decision anymore. They passed the buck to Mr. Arbitrator.

AND, WHO IS WRITING ALL THESE PARKERS FOR CITY?

I thought you were...

10/29/2009 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys:

I've said it on here before, and I'm saying it again. In an environment of high unemployment, huge City budget deficits, other City employees taking pay cuts (a.k.a. "furlough days") and a police department that's about as popular with the public as swine flu, your call for raises is delusional.

If you get an arbitrator to say
"10% plus back pay", the backlash is going to make the bad publicit from SOS and Burge and Abbatte and all that other crap look like nothin'.

//////////////////////////////
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I'm okay with that. So is my bank account.

10/29/2009 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bad argument. Cost of living for the last year actually declined for the first time in recent memory. Social security checks therefore declined for the first time ever.

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and then obama gave seniors separate checks just for being seniors that more than compensated for lack of a social security cola.

10/29/2009 03:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There seems to be a lot of confusion as to if the arbitration is binding or not. Yes it's binding for both sides. If we are awarded a pay raise through arbitration the city council has 90 days to approve it. If they want to be jackasses and not approve it the F.O.P. then takes the city to court and the courts will force the city to honor the arbitrators decision. All the city would be accomplishing is stalling and delaying the inevitable. Since the city typicaly operates that way during "good faith" negotiations it wouldn't shock me if Ritchie and his merry band of thieves choose to go this route. Right now it seems as if Ritchie and his band of thieves are negotiating in the media and trying to sway public opinion further against us. They figure if the arbitrator could be swayed by all their bullshit spewed through the media then that would be an added bonus.
I really believe that the F.O.P. needs to make a statement rebutting shortshanks so the public can hear both sides not just the propeganda that Ritchie is always spewing.

10/29/2009 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

STICK TOGETHER! MARCH-MARCH,MARCH, STOP CHASING PEOPLE, STOP, STICK TOGETHER FOR ONCE NEW OFFICERS, SEASONED OFFICERS, COME TOGETHER. WE WILL ALWAYS BE THE BIGGIST GANG IN TOWN

10/29/2009 06:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is my union? The higher road is admirable (You told the news you can't comment and are disappointed that the City Council did)...but stupid right now. Remaing silent just pisses your union members off.

Make a fair and calculated rebuttal. Like the Fire Local did.

10/29/2009 07:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't believe that Cal City is laying off Police.....That town is a cess pool since they got all the Section 8s.

10/30/2009 01:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I haven't read this mentioned but 24 unpaid furlough days would affect an officer's pension if he were within a few years of retirement, LIKE I AM!

Those unpaid days would reduce the pensionable salary for that year by about 8% thus reducing the pension calculation of the average for pension purposes.

This demand for unpaid days off is merely posturing by the City meant to show the rest of the City work force he is demanding that police and fire do the same as other City unions have been asked to do.

It is highly unlikely to ever happen. Keep that in mind, it is just more smoke from Daley, spoon fed as the "company line" to certain selected aldermen acting as "shill of the day."

It is a pre-arbitration demand, nothing more, won't happen, just one more brick in the wall of total alienation of a work force.

10/30/2009 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHO IS WRITING ALL THESE PARKERS FOR CITY?

10/28/2009 10:36:00 PM

The damn Revenuers (my Grandad in the Ozarks hated them too)

10/30/2009 09:21:00 PM  

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