How Are They Contributing?
Fox32 had news on our pension last night.
Somehow it seems that J-Fed and his cronies (Brust, Klimas, Masters and Daly) are all paying into the pension and will be collecting from the pension upon their departure?
Aren't there "vesting" requirements? A certain number of years? We know it isn't 3 years, which is probably what most of them are going to end up serving. Shouldn't everyone be up in arms about this stunt seeing as how poorly funded the pension actually is (under 48% at last count) and they're going to be drawing gold braid pensions?
Who authorized this? What the heck are the pension reps doing, aside from Shields?
Fox32 doesn't have the link up yet, so we'll update the post when we get it.
UPDATE: Title updated - they aren't "vested" at this point. They are merely "contributing," most likely with an eye toward buying credits to steal unearned money from the fund. Like Huberman is trying to do.
Somehow it seems that J-Fed and his cronies (Brust, Klimas, Masters and Daly) are all paying into the pension and will be collecting from the pension upon their departure?
Aren't there "vesting" requirements? A certain number of years? We know it isn't 3 years, which is probably what most of them are going to end up serving. Shouldn't everyone be up in arms about this stunt seeing as how poorly funded the pension actually is (under 48% at last count) and they're going to be drawing gold braid pensions?
Who authorized this? What the heck are the pension reps doing, aside from Shields?
Fox32 doesn't have the link up yet, so we'll update the post when we get it.
UPDATE: Title updated - they aren't "vested" at this point. They are merely "contributing," most likely with an eye toward buying credits to steal unearned money from the fund. Like Huberman is trying to do.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
71 Comments:
I heard from a fairly reliable source that the lil guy still loves J Fed, and that he may not be out after 3years.
Thought it was at least 10 years for any type of "vesting" more looting it is the shitcago way after all! hey j-fed get the pension fully funded call your fed friends to see why vanecko and the rest of the daley crime family stole MILLIONS from us! You guys are nothing but thieves under the crew the CPD is in shambles, theft federal style?? Hey jody you call COZZI the guy you personally put into the rat hole prison? When we all meet our maker what do you think GOD will do with you??
I jumped the gun, SCC. My rant on this topic is contained within the thread below ("Questions, Questions").
I was champing at the bit to comment since I was so excited to see J-Fed and his band of ass-pirates get bitch-slapped by Mike Shields.
I can't wait for the fallout because of this latest revelation!
They're like locust's attacking a crop. They don't stop till there's nothing left.
It looks like we have no one looking out for our interests at the pension Board again !!!!! Exactly what do your fuckers charge to sell your souls & us down the river ????????
Pension fund is actually under 30%
Does Weiss get a pension for both jobs? One he doesn't do at all and the other that he doesn't do well.
Who authorized this? What the heck are the pension reps doing, aside from Shields?
Answers: (1) Daley
(2) Nothing but waisting OUR money
I think its 10 years to be vested!
"If I...saw that I was the cause of (poor) morale in this department, no one would have to ask me to leave. I would leave on my own."
LIAR! Denial is not just a river in Egypt, you lying hypocrite. And now you and your filthy carpetbaggers want to rape our pension fund. Burn in Hell, shameless coward. We despise you almost as much as the Stuttering Prick.
If true, it gives me hope that there might actually be a pension when i am eleigable.
But WTF ???
See, it IS possible to rob the Police in Chicago.....
Seriously, you guys are getting hooped. No lube. No kiss.
I don't know about you, I'm getting my OWN attorney on Monday to protect my interests. Enough is enough. After speaking to my brother who is a pretty big hot shot attorney he said I would be a be a fool not to get my own attorney and file my own lawsuit in this matter, as should every single pension paying police officer. No class action for me.
"Who authorized this? What the heck are the pension reps doing, aside from Shields?"
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Aside from Shields, they are doing what they are told.
We, by state law, put in 9% of our salary every check toward our pension. (CFD puts in 9.25%). If we fail to vest and we quit we get that $ back - and that is it.
So that 9% is ours, immediately, no matter what. Even if we get fired for killing 10 people on duty we get that 9% back.
The vesting of the 'employer contribution' the main concern. The employer contribution in a plan such as ours (a defined benefit plan) is actuarily determined and fluctuates with the market. So, theoretically, if the pension is only 30% funded and we have a super-duper bull market next year, Daley and Co. would be off the hook, meaning they would not have to pay in. Ya, that could happen.
Prior to the way it is now, the first 20 years you got 2% per year. Then, after 20, you got 2.5%per year. So after 20 you had 40%, then with 14 more years (it was actually 34 years to retire at max, they just called it "33 and a day") @ 2.5% for each of those 14 years, you got a 35% more. So you got 40% + 35% for the max of 75. Now, after Madigan renigged on his 80% pension promise, he gave us a simple 2.5% per year for 30 years (they call this "29 and a day") for the 75%. So back then if you did 20 years you were vested in 40%of your final pay, right? (your best 4 out of your last ten years). But somehow I remember it being 50% after 20? But then I remember vesting in 10 years too? Can anyone help on this? One thing I do know for sure - it was NEVER less than 10 years - NEVER.
And if Jody is vesting after 4 years should he not at least have to buy in for the missing 16 years? So if he makes $300K per year he'd have to put up $27K (9%) multiplied by 16. $432,000 would be Jody's pay-in, right? It would be well worth it for him because he would collect $150K per year upon reaching age 50.
But I say fuck him. If he can collect after 4 years w/ a buy-in then everyone can collect after 4 years with a buy-in.
MAybe my oension will be there in 15yrs because these guys have bought into it So its a good thing then
If and when we DO have a march in front of the daley center, we need to have a huge board that each and every police officer can sign to say that J-Fed has destroyed the morale of this department. I know even if he see's it in black and white it won't make any difference but the citizens of Chicago need to see it so they will know why we we don't care anymore.
It's highly unlikely that any of these assholes will complete the 20 years which is a pension requirement for eligibility at 50%.
When the stuttering prick decides they are no longer useful to his agenda, they will be terminated. Then, they can collect their contributions only.
J-Fed cannot pay into our pension. He is not a sworn police officer. He can pay in to the municiple government pension. I think its IMRF.
I've been noticing lately a change in the reporting. Ben Bradley reamed Jesse Jackson the other day with a question: "What about personal responsibility Reverend." Jackson almost looked shocked that someone would ax him a logical question.
You can't change what's coming.
---not a cop
I don't know about you, I'm getting my OWN attorney on Monday to protect my interests. Enough is enough. After speaking to my brother who is a pretty big hot shot attorney he said I would be a be a fool not to get my own attorney and file my own lawsuit in this matter, as should every single pension paying police officer. No class action for me.
10/31/2009 05:42:00 AM
At the very least, some sort of grievance.
lock them up for theft. Jodi "Madoff" Weis
And AGAIN Shields steps up to the plate. I hope we remember this when we vote again for the other people on the board. Shields and Northern would be a great one-two punch combo.
See, it IS possible to rob the Police in Chicago.....
Seriously, you guys are getting hooped. No lube. No kiss.
10/31/2009 04:38:00 AM
And no kidding. The truth is the truth, and we are getting hooped alright, but they found a way around this one.
J-FED and his buddies are all sworn. Yep, it is true. And the guy that would know for sure is Sgt. Ray Gawne, the one that Ladner just booted out of Personnel.
Gawne is a surly old cuss that helped out of load of coppers in a legit manner in his time, but did not want anyone to know it and think he was a nice guy. The reason he ran the stars and shields like a storm trooper is because you would have to work there to know all of the corrupt shit they did before Ray was put in charge and tried to run it straight.
Ray, if you are out there and reading this, verify that J-FED has a patrol officer's star because he is sworn, will you?
this has to be a joke. If it is not why can't I retire now with 17 yrs on and collect my pension?
SCC, the story did not say they were vested. It said they were participating in the Policemen's Pension fund when they do not have a legal right to participate in this fund. All of these FBI guys should be in another city pension fund, not ours.
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
That's funny, SCC. One of the best questions was posed, researched and ultimately introduced to the media just earlier tonight.
Mike Shields strikes again, this time calling-out J-Fed, Brust, Masters and Daly as to why they've been paying into OUR pension fund when they're not legally able to do so.
Seems the sneaky feds thought they'd be able to slip this one past the "watchful" eyes of our Pension Board (or maybe it was with the overt blessing of a few of Daley's henchmen on the Pension Board?).
Coming into focus on the big screen tonight was the fact that J-Fed has been contributing 27-Large a year into OUR pension fund since he was APPOINTED Superintendent. The only problem, as exposed by Mike Shields, is that anyone of APPOINTED EXEMPT rank isn't allowed by pension laws/rules to participate in OUR fund. Weis and company had hoped to buy into the remainder of their 10 year minimum required to be vested in and eligible to draw big buck pensions from OUR fund.
If it wasn't bad enough that too many clout-heavy jagoffs have been multi-merit promoted over the years, allowing them to whittle away our severely underfunded pension fund, we now have FEDS trying to backdoor us as well. Seems they took a play out of the Ron Huberman book of scamming the system, only to be defeated by a "lowly patrolman". (Ha ha).
And, as is the usual Chicago rhetoric, Weis' spokesman (who claimed J-Fed was "off on a furlough day") said "there was never any secret plan for the Superintendent and his aides to quietly become members of the police pension plan". Weis' spokeman referred further questions to the Police Department. The Police Department then referred questions on pension policy back to the Pension Board.
May I suggest that every other civilian of exempt rank, retired or not, be scrutinized as well to verify that they're paying into the General Municipal Fund...not OURS. I'd be willing to bet there's a huge number of ineligible people collecting fat pensions courtesy of the blood shed by coppers.
In closing, my sincerest kudos to Mike Shields for another job very well done. Keep up the good work. Make these fucking bastards sweat.
I'm going to bed with a smile on my face tonight knowing that the "Top Cop" (and I use that phrase only in jest) got bitch-slapped.
The Pension Nazi says: "NO PENSION FOR YOU, J-FED!!!".
10/31/2009 12:49:00 AM
Nothing prohibits them from paying into the pension. We are assuming they will only be here 3 years. Daley loves J-Fed. He is the perfect foot soldier, doing everything Daley wants. I can see him staying a couple years past his contract then getting hired in another position, as many others have in the past where they will be able to transfer their pensions. Masters will be here for sure. The other guys might stay with the Department, who knows. Daley loves them all.
If you don't believe this. Daly was the first Chief of Staff. Moved out to make room for Masters. Murphy was on Daley's staff. They had a fight, now he works in a specially created job for the Department. Maureen Bigane of the Bigane construction family, is the Commanding Officer of News Affairs, even though their is a Director, hand picked by the Mayor, who I have yet to see on TV. Aren't we supper short Lieutenants and Captains. A special Commanders spot is created for Wedster, a favorite of Rugai who is a favorite of the Mayor. She screws up not once, but twice. So, instead of sending her packing, they create another special spot for her, where no one I've spoken with knows what she does. Tracy Ladner loses the Shakman suit for Daley, where does she end up? You guessed it, Director of Personnel for the Police Department. Does any one see a conflict of interest when the person fighting to maintain the patronage system in in charge of Personnel, for any organization?
J-Fed is the best Superintendent Daley has ever had because he NEVER says no to Daley. and Masters is right there to make sure he does. Not that in the past it was much better, but at least there was some give and take. No, they are all here guys, we're doomed. Until a better job offer comes along. And, not one of the people above give a damn about us or the city. They all sleep well at night, though I don't know how. These are not people of honor But, of course, they don't know what honor is, except honor among thieves.
Oh, and if they do leave early, they just take their money with a small percentage added on, out of the pension. Perfectly within the rules.
Sorry about the long rant.
We need to sign everyone up to vote. Vote the midget out and sorry no offense to midgets.
10 years to be vested but lets not forget the mayor appoints the majority of the pension board reps so he can do what he wants and get anything he wants done. They always add exclusions or exemptions, but a pension after 3 years, dont see how that can happen Hell even the NFl, NBA judges etc have to hold a job more than 3 years to get a pension
My morale is way up. You can have my pension boss.
Forget J-Fraud, the biggest rape of the pension fund has always been the EXEMPT pensions. Everyone with a gold star is little more than a common thief when it comes to their pensions.
I think everyone should calm down a bit. I suspect that they are paying into the fund because they are considered sworn employees (like ot or not), and are therefore required to pay into it. Assuming that they don't stay long enough to "vest" they would be like anyone else, and would withdraw their contributions, with simple interest. If the Supe is making 300k a year, over 3 years that is 90k he will put in, and will be pretty much doubled by city contributions. I don't believe that the city gets its money back, but I am not sure about that.
Who cares if short shanks loves Jfed and he stays on. Anyone made supt. is gonna be on the leash of 35 st. Jfed is stupid I would rather the mayors lap dog be stupid than wise.
The arrangement you are whining about is pretty common for these situations. School district superintendents, etc. often move around a lot and if they were not vested quickly they would never have a pension.
Personally, I think in the long run you guys would be better served by a defined contribution plan that the city would have a very hard time underfunding.
i thought you only get what you put in plus 1% if you are under a certain number of years? something is rotten in denmark....and we re in chicago. i say we need more whistlerblowers in this town...but they dont make enough whistles!
Has Masters been charged with UUW yet?
probably trying to be able to pay into the pension fund for an additional 7 years to get vested and take advantage of the 2.5% a year. Its a steal, $27,000 a year for 7 years for $189,000 paid in, retire at 25% of $300,000 or $75,000 a year for life so after 2 1/2 you would get your money back and the rest is gravy Doesnt help our pension because if he dies before the 10 years he gets a refund of the $189,000 plus interest so anyway you look at it it would be a win situation for him and a lose situation for the pension fund Additionally if he gets tired of paying in, he stops and gets a refund of the amount paid in plus interest
You have never heard of "Good Time"? They get 10 days for every blow job they give Shortshanks!
Gainer did the same thing for him and his cronies when he took over the ISP- he fixed it so that his (Sergeant's) pension from CPD transferred to the ISP so that he could go out at a much higher rate after destroying the ISP for the 8 years he was there.
He also brought along his brother-in-law, a former CPD Patrolman, and quietly promoted him to Major's pay for his (undeserved) pension. What a disgrace!
I heard from a fairly reliable source that the lil guy still loves J Fed, and that he may not be out after 3years.
10/31/2009 12:10:00 AM
He did say when he first hired him that he will be here for a long time.
lawsuits need to be filed this is a joke. Where is the FOP protecting our pension? It cannot be legal for these police imposters to get in the pension.
Getting your own attorney! Yeah, sure you are.
I posted earlier the complete diatribe about Weiss paying into the pension.
I was wrong.
He'd also have to contribute the city's portion. So 16 years x 18% = 16 x $54K = $864K
He doesn't deserve it even still because it is a violation of the rules. But that would be the amount $864K.
Fuck that weasel, me first, Fed.
OT:
Regulated non- government pensions (government pensions are not under the umbrella of ERISA - Empl Retirement Income Sec. Act) have to be funded at least yearly, it may even be quarterly. If it is actuarily determined that the pension is underfunded the employer is spanked HARD with tax penalties based on the underfunded amount. It is so strict it is unbelievable. Not so with government pensions apparently.
Remember that state rep made a bill that said if Daley sold Midway Airport that our pension would be funded first with the proceeds? Ya, I remember ...
Maybe the FOP can take notes from Shields on how to fight for patrolmen-on years when there isn't an election!!
Our Union has FAILED to represent us in so many ways.
This is the latest example.
Message to FOP. Yes: we will march.
Yes: we want you to tell the press, our side of these issues.
Why Won't You ???
Just received a letter from Bill Cozzi, he wrote "Weis has destroyed a great Police Dept, but it can still be repaired because of the Great people on the job"
Keep those cards and letters coming.
A wife.
William Cozzi #40222-424
FCL Oakdale
PO Box 5000
Oakdale LA 71463
Here is what I suggest brothers/sisters of the CPD:
Lets get a petition circulated that simply says we have no confidence in our leader. The last time the reps took a vote they claimed it didnt echo the majority. Any ideas? Would most sign it? a march first with all signing in person??
Weis, Masters, Brust, and the policy group all took the fitness test last week.
They even set their own time for it, 1700 hours!
Masters was not sure when asked what a star number was!
Shields is THE MAN! At the pension board, he not only called out J-Fraud. He called out Masters (he even spoke the Dark Lord's name), Brust and Pat Daly for being in the pension too. He pointed out that since they were all hired as exempts, they CAN NOT BE IN THE PENSION. You should have seen the pension fund's liar in chief , John Gallagher, blubbering and stammering like a little baby when Shields dropped the bomb. Awesome.
Shields is concerned that after only 3 years on the job, an officer can make claims for credit for prior service (FBI and Mayor's office are both listed in the law) and get a full pension. BULLSHIT. They have to be put out of the pension NOWW!! Get em, Shields! You're like the Harry Potter of the Pension Board. Slay Gallagher, the evil house elf.
Shields is one ballsy mother fu__er, that's for sure. Anyone who can call out all of the Department's FBI brass while wearing a hot pink designer tie has no fear. If I wuz a girl, I'd probably want to make a baby with that guy.
My ex who is a city big shot got his job by giving a Daley relative a new bathroom. Then he got his retarded brother a job also paying over a hundred thousand a year. Who do I call about all this?
MIKE SHIELDS FOP PRESIDENT IS WIDE OPEN YOUNG OFFICER,SLATE A TEAM ITS YOURS FROM AN OLD KMA MEMBER!!
There should be plenty of money in the pension fund for J-fed because, once again, the FOP let all legislation for duty disabled POs die in the legislature without a fight. What do we pay a lobbyist for?
its time to bring some new young blood in the FOP. Someone who will be around for awhile and not retire as soon as his time over. I want someone who is in the same boat as me to represent my interests. Someone with a family trying to afford to live in this city. Someone who will feel the decisions made as I would being on for only 5 years. Not someone with one foot out the door. Its all yours mike for the taking.
Anonymous said...
lawsuits need to be filed this is a joke. Where is the FOP protecting our pension? It cannot be legal for these police imposters to get in the pension.
10/31/2009 02:39:00 PM
It is not the job of the FOP to protect our pension. It is the job of the pension board, and that is what Shields is doing by taking this public.
Weis and the other FBI exempts and any others who were NOT sworn, trained chicago Police Officers paying into the pension BEFORE they were appointed as exempt may NOT contribute or benefit from our pension fund, per pension fund rules.
Of course, the executive director John J. Gallagher, Jr. is appointed by daley and likely is the one who allowed these non eligible people to begin contributing. This needs to be stopped before they are in the fund for three years because then they are locked in.
Why not ask Mr. Gallagher yourself? Let him know your opinion.
His email is: jgallagher@chipabf.org
Or you can write a letter to him at:
John J. Gallagher, Jr.
Policemen’s Annuity and Benefit Fund
221 North LaSalle Street
Suite 1626
Chicago, Illinois 60601-1203
Or give him a call at: (312) 744-3891
Remember, his secretary is the little dolly who is getting her law school tuition paid for by OUR pension fund. Our rep, Mike Shields, was voted down in his attempt to block this theft from our pension fund. Let's not forget that one.
I appreciate the work Shields does to try to prevent thefts like this and to shed light on these hijack attempts. For many years these went unnoticed. Daley and pals used our pension fund as their little piggy bank, they still do. Keep up the good work Mike.
Mike Shields has done nothing but great things for the officers on this job. Mike make your move and take over the fop and represent the officers like they deserve to be represented.
-BAKE-
MIKE SHIELDS IS THE ONLY ONE AT THE PENSION BOARD WHO IS LOOKING OUT FOR OUR INTERESTS. I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE HIM. LET US ALL REMEMBER TO GIVE HIM OUR SUPPORT....LET HIM KNOW WE WILL SUPPORT HIM NOW AND IN ANY FUTURE ENDEAVORS'
" My ex who is a city big shot got his job by giving a Daley relative a new bathroom. Then he got his retarded brother a job also paying over a hundred thousand a year. Who do I call about all this?
10/31/2009 10:18:00 PM"
Post it.
Post it all.
As many details as you can recall.
Think: Who, What, Where, When, & How.
We already know the Why.
"You have never heard of "Good Time"? They get 10 days for every blow job they give Shortshanks!
10/31/2009 01:06:00 PM"
must be a lot of days they 'earned'.
"Personally, I think in the long run you guys would be better served by a defined contribution plan that the city would have a very hard time underfunding.
10/31/2009 11:08:00 AM"
Personally, you are a douche.
Defined Benefit vs Defined Contribution, it's a no brainer for the beneficiaries.
Defined Benefit all the way.
Pensions aren't about what's 'easier' for the employer, buddy, they're about what the employees have earned by working 20+ years.
"We need to sign everyone up to vote. Vote the midget out and sorry no offense to midgets.
10/31/2009 10:30:00 AM"
No offense taken.
Signed,
Shorty
"Sorry about the long rant.
10/31/2009 10:18:00 AM"
No apology needed.
Very informative, even to those who already know.
'long rant' any time.
This has been going on for many years, as far back as the late 60's, when I came on the job. Many people are hired and then, after a short time, go on to other jobs, but still pay into our pension fund. They are on a "leave of absence" and are allowed to take promotion exams. The new job just has to be related somehow to law enforcement. The definition of what that is and the decision to let the person pay into our fund rests with the pension board.
MIKE SHIELDS FOP PRESIDENT IS WIDE OPEN YOUNG OFFICER,SLATE A TEAM ITS YOURS FROM AN OLD KMA MEMBER!!
10/31/2009 11:04:00 PM
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An open letter to the Mike Shields cheerleader:
Knock it off. He's not the second coming of Christ.
Yes, he's done us a service, but you/we must be really pitiful and downtrodden to be SO impressed by one guy who does the right thing.
Give it a rest or you'll create a backlash, which we - and Mike - can't afford.
It is not the job of the FOP to protect our pension. It is the job of the pension board, and that is what Shields is doing by taking this public.
Weis and the other FBI exempts and any others who were NOT sworn, trained chicago Police Officers paying into the pension BEFORE they were appointed as exempt may NOT contribute or benefit from our pension fund, per pension fund rules.
Of course, the executive director John J. Gallagher, Jr. is appointed by daley and likely is the one who allowed these non eligible people to begin contributing. This needs to be stopped before they are in the fund for three years because then they are locked in.
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First, it may not be the primary function of the FOP to safeguard our pension, but it IS FOP's responsibility to at least publicly ADDRESS issues of great concern to its membership.
Second, FOP told us today at roll call that when Masters was questioned under oath as to whether he is a Chicago Police Officer, he stated more than once that he is "a sworn member of the Chicago Police Department". Obviously, he could not say he is a police officer under oath.
When asked if he carries a gun, he tried to talk to his attorney. He finally said he is a licensed private investigator in the state of Illinois and authorized to carry a gun. When asked if he carries a gun while working for the CPD, he demurs. When asked if he carries a gun any other times, he asked for a definition of "other times". He also stated he is currently taking an online course in law enforcement when asked directly if he attended our (or any) police academy.
Three, I don't think the three-year limit locks anyone in if their contribution and participation in the fund was ILLEGAL to begin with.
Me, I'm going to advise all my civilian friends they can call themselves the police if they take an ONLINE course in policing AFTER they carry a gun illegally and after they take a job with some police department without having any qualifications. I'm sure it'll work out just fine for them, too. Chances are, they can also join our pension fund.
This has been going on for many years, as far back as the late 60's, when I came on the job. Many people are hired and then, after a short time, go on to other jobs, but still pay into our pension fund. They are on a "leave of absence" and are allowed to take promotion exams. The new job just has to be related somehow to law enforcement. The definition of what that is and the decision to let the person pay into our fund rests with the pension board.
11/01/2009 01:45:00 PM
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Is there a way we can get a complete list of ALL the non-active members who contribute to the pension fund? I bet it'd be eye-opening.
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Makes you want to go out there and hump to get the good arrests and keep the city safe huh?!?
Everyone seems upset about this, BUT now thats in the open what needs to be done to end it? Lets not just talk, lets act now before its too late.
Its a steal, $27,000 a year for 7 years for $189,000 paid in, retire at 25% of $300,000 or $75,000 a year for life so after 2 1/2 you would get your money back and the rest is gravy Doesnt help our pension because
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Weis would also have to contribute the city's portion if he "bought in." I posted the above rant and came to the same conclusion you did - but I was wrong too. I'm pretty sure when you buy in you have to pay your 9% + the city's 9%. (actually the city may not have a set 9% in that the city's poriton if actuarily determined).
So Jody could not buy in at $27K per year, but more like $54K per year. $54K x 7 years remaining to vest at 10 would be $378 for that 10 years. For 20 years he'd pay for the remaining 13, so 13x $54K = $702K. Then he'd get 50% of that $300K, or $150K.
With that much $ coming in he can buy some forehead surgery for that warped, possum-looking noggin of his.
I don't believe it's possible to make a deal to collect after three years. That's something even the Mayor can't promise, as it's all tied up in statutes. Even the Mayor, or a vote of the City Council can't get around the statute.
If you are Sworn you will pay into the Police pension regardless of if you can collect a full pension or not, police Department civilians (exempt or not) do NOT pay into the Police pension. When Daly, Brust, and JFed came over they were granted Sworn status probably because of their 20 + years of Law enforcement experience and being Certified as Federal Officers. The REAL QUESTION is why is someone with no Law Enforcement experience, never passed a background investigation, never attended a Police Academy, never passed a probationary period, allowed to be a SWORN officer. How is someone GIVEN something that was never EARNED??? In case you dont believe check out the Data Warehouse and see who is the Police (P) and who is a civilian (C). I guess it pays to be an aide to the Mayor and the son of a judge. He cannot be charged with UUW if he is Sworn and therefore allowed by law to carry a weapon and even arrest people, that is the question that should be answered, how can this be?????
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