Police Board Cases
The release of this report sure is a curious bit of timing:
- About a third of Chicago police officers brought up for termination in the last 10 years have actually been fired, according to a report by a watchdog group.
The civilian Chicago police board responsible for disciplining officers has backed the police superintendent's recommendations for terminating officers only 37 percent of the time, though the city's top cop has recommended firings in 97 percent of the cases, according to the report by the Chicago Justice Project, which advocates public access to justice-related information.
Rulings made by the nine-member police board are generally binding unless either the superintendent or the officer challenges it in court, the report states.
The report -- which analyzed more than 300 cases against sworn officers and civilian workers between 1999 and 2008 -- recommends that the board release a report explaining their rulings when they go against the superintendent's recommendations.
So just over one-third of the time, a recommendation of firing is upheld by the Police Board. This is news why? What is it compared to? Does anyone have the conviction rates for Anita Alvarez's office? Because 100% of the time that they go to trial, they think they have enough evidence to convict. That's why there's a trial. It gets all the facts out in the open and a jury (or judge) decides whether or not a conviction is warranted. Leaving out plea agreements, does anyone think the number approaches 50%? We don't.
The Superintendent probably believes with all his...we want to say "heart" here but we're pretty sure he doesn't have one...so whatever stands in for his heart, 97% of the cops in these cases deserve firing. But they still have a right to appeal to the Board. And if the Board decides that 63% of the cases brought before it are worthy of a lesser penalty, then that will be the finding. After all, the entire Board was appointed by Shortshanks, and Shortshanks would never compromise the integrity of the Police Board with political hacks. Would he?
But it says "Police Board" on the door, so anything coming out of there must be the fault of the police somehow is how we read it. More spin from the spin master.
The Superintendent probably believes with all his...we want to say "heart" here but we're pretty sure he doesn't have one...so whatever stands in for his heart, 97% of the cops in these cases deserve firing. But they still have a right to appeal to the Board. And if the Board decides that 63% of the cases brought before it are worthy of a lesser penalty, then that will be the finding. After all, the entire Board was appointed by Shortshanks, and Shortshanks would never compromise the integrity of the Police Board with political hacks. Would he?
But it says "Police Board" on the door, so anything coming out of there must be the fault of the police somehow is how we read it. More spin from the spin master.
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
48 Comments:
And don't forget there has been 40 openings in the 3rd district for about 6 months now.
10/29/2009 12:50:00 PM
And guess how they are going to finally handle this? You guessed it reverse senority including Sergeants on management in other districts!
Bill Cozzi phones me at least 3 times a week. I asked Bill if there is any kind of "highlight" to his miserable existence in a federal penitentiary a thousand miles from home (rather than Oxford, Wisconsin).
In a heartbeat, he said "mail call". Please keep the letters coming:
William COZZI, #40222-424
FCI Oakdale
P.O. Box 5000
Oakdale, LA 71463
The following are not Bill Cozzi's words. They are mine:
Fuck you, you vicious, sadistic, psychopathic WEISel cocksucker. You know, I know and every copper knows that you scapegoated Cozzi for your own personal political agenda--your "new broom syndrome".
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure."
..."though the city's top cop has recommended firings in 97 percent of the cases,"...
But wait, J-fraud has our backs....
the police board voted 8-1 to reinstate william cozzi to full duty with an 18 month suspension served--- then j-fed signed his own death warrant with his handling of the civil rights violation.... since then the police board has been firing officers at a faster clip because j-fed embarassed them in the media... numerous officers have been let go who could have just served out a suspension and came back out on the street--- thank you j-fed, we know you have our back 200 percent....
Say what u want about the board but they for the most part have been more than fair.
Big Police Board scandal soon to break.
And maybe the board just has some common sense coupled with the fact that most of them are in the legal field. They can see thru badly- investigated cases that were probably motivated by bosses like Kirby.
Wouldnt you like to have the final say-so? NOT!
Maybe the board will get tired of all these termination cases sent to them that should not be there in the 1st case and send a memo to Weisel and company: KNOCK IT OFF !
97% termination rate???
Remember he has got your back!!!
AS LONG AS YOU ARE 100% RIGHT!!!
DO NOT take a chance for this guy!!
If their is a grey area!!!A shadow of a doubt!!
Let the criminal go!!!
or
He WILL FIRE YOU!!!!!!
I REPEAT This non police fed will FIRE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF JODI'S HEAD IS ACTUALLY FOREHEAD?
Gee, do you think there's political influence involved?
Or Goodness, maybe a deal the old fashioned way?
I can hardly wait for the Board to have to explain their findings.
Big Police Board scandal soon to break.
True
It wouldn't have anything to do with an officer fired once, twice, three times who suddenly got a fourth chance, would it? VG came back just in time to hit the medical for another tour.
Squad, a big 19-Adam.
Ever notice how many, many, investigations by the G end only with prosecution for lying to a federal agent?
Make you go hmmmm.
OT After seeing Pam Zekman last night, it really hit me that these guys have budgets of over a million a year - that would be at least $50 million between them. Why don't the aldermen that are so hepped up on Ceasefire, pay for it themselves (only $18 million) instead of asking the state taxpayers.
Most of the Police Board are political appointed spots by Daley. Enough said.
Fuck you, you vicious, sadistic, psychopathic WEISel cocksucker. You know, I know and every copper knows that you scapegoated Cozzi for your own personal political agenda--your "new broom syndrome".
10/30/2009 01:09:00 AM
He could not have done it without Peter Fitzgerald's approval.
"It wouldn't have anything to do with an officer fired once, twice, three times who suddenly got a fourth chance, would it? VG came back just in time to hit the medical for another tour.
10/30/2009 06:45:00 AM"
OR IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE VW III, YOU CAN OFF A GUY & THEY'LL HAVE YOU DO TRAINING VIDEOS. ONLY ON THE CPD
Say what u want about the board but they for the most part have been more than fair.
10/30/2009 01:55:00 AM
More than fair? So that's what its called when criminals and sex offenders are returned to our ranks. Good one.
When the investigation is over and the recommendation by the investigator is termination, the file goes to the Corporation Counsel for their recommendation, then to the superintendent for his signature. There have been times when the powers to be wanted someone seperated on a very weak case and they knew it and went ahead anyway, just to get the person. You need to look at the corporation counsel's recommendation, not IAD or OPS.
Anonymous said...
Say what u want about the board but they for the most part have been more than fair.
10/30/2009 01:55:00 AM
AS long as it hasn't hit the papers, then watch out.
BTW - Anybody notice that the posters for the Medical Integrity Unit are only posted where the biggest offenders thrive.
Wake the fuck up LT Kevin Oakies. All the 4 YOJ dollies you have at the traffic court sign-in room, who have to leave early to go work the side job.
REAL need to be on light duty there - guess LAPA parks their spinners down there.
They act like its a bother to stamp your court slip. Too busy lining up the next babies daddy I guess.
Great work if you can get it
I told you so...
Department Notice 09-44
Anonymous said...
It wouldn't have anything to do with an officer fired once, twice, three times who suddenly got a fourth chance, would it? VG came back just in time to hit the medical for another tour.
10/30/2009 06:45:00 AM
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WHAT A NUT JOB SHE IS!
I think KM should stop talking about it.
Seriously.
This dept. is downhilL rapidly and there is only one person WEISESPONSIBLE!
Does anyone remember the case of the sergeant who was the CO of Gun Registration who was caught faking her son's handgun registration by backdating it? She was found guilty by the police board, but was promoted to lieutenant and allowed to retire. The Cook County State's attorney declined to prosecute. Rumor had it at the time that she had backdated many handgun registgrations for politicians and threatened to blow the whistle on everyone.
And guess how they are going to finally handle this? You guessed it reverse senority including Sergeants on management in other districts!
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The day this happens the gloves will finally be off.
Rumor says that the Board is fed up with the amount of cases sent to them due to Weis's signing off on every case that comes to his desk.
Send him a message-get those officers back to work when its bullshit!
It’s a matter of disrespect more than anything else…There are five or six male, white aldermen who could have walked in there and never been questioned. But I saw several black women who were hassled [by security who said], ‘Those seats are for the sponsors.’ Well, as an elected official of the city of Chicago, I’m a sponsor, too.”
Yeah! Where is my free shit? I's a alderman.
Fox news reports that the $310K piece of shit and his FBI buddies are trying to get a CPD pension just like Luberman. Mike Shields rocks.
Masters Masters Masters
More than fair? So that's what its called when criminals and sex offenders are returned to our ranks. Good one.
They sent Cozzi back so they are ok in my book.
It was on Fox. J-Fraud is trying to mooch in on our pensions. This rat millionaire should be hung.
Free Bill Cozzi.
For the most part the members of the Police Board are political hacks. All you have to do is read some of their case summaries and it will be obvious that they don't even bother to read the briefs that they demand be filed on short notice. Based on my personal knowledge, the officers' brief gets turned over to some first or second year associate and occassionally a summer intern for analysis and recommendation and this only from the members who are interested enough to even consider the case.
The Police Board is a farce. Take everything to arbitration if at all possible because at least then your accuser will be subject to cross-examination and will have to testify on the record.
Check Fox on how that mother fucker WEISel trying to weasel into the pension fund. I'm still on the job. I wish I could be like Northside and call out this rotten jagoff and use my name. It is a crying shame what he did to Cozzi. Retirement is the name of the game. Shortshanks and Chicago is FUBAR. I use to love the job. Now they can shove it up there ass. Answer your jobs. Back each other up and stay safe. Nothing more.
Hey, they can't make the Board make public their opinion on why somebody is saved. How do they explain the phone call on paper?
Nothing new here, move along...
It's been this way forever and it all boils down to CYA.
Let's use an example. Say the Dept. has a beef on a copper (emphasis added if it's a heater or got press time) They play it safe to cover their ass and simply recommend firing. From this point on it counts as a recommendation for dismissal in their corner. (regardless of the outcome)
Now, if the Police Board or the courts puts the member back on, the Supt. and/or stuttering prick comes out and says, "Don't blame me I had him fired! Blame the...(insert scapegoat here)
Now, the poor copper who was unjustly penalized (note I said penalized) comes back to get his job after a loooong layoff waiting for an outcome, scrimping and working side jobs to support his family. These things take not months but 'years' sometimes (ala poor Bill Cozzi... 2 years)
Here's where the city again steps in for their 'win-win-win' situation.
1) They already have a chalk-mark stroke in the "Recommended for Firing" stats column to show how (allegedly) tough they are in disciplining the po-po.
2) They can use the, ..."Don't blame me, the (Police Board/Courts)gave them their job back" excuse.
3) Here's the kicker... Now that the city was 'ORDERED'(refer back to the..."dont' blame me clause") to rehire the copper that was unlawfully or heavily handed fired they take advantage of the following.
The copper has struggled for years trying to get his job back, working odd jobs, no insurance, embarrassment of one-sided media coverage, thousands of dollars in lawyer expenses etc., etc.
The city is well aware of this so they say, "If you want your back pay (as ordered) we'll APPEAL the whole thing to the courts and it'll drag out for another few years."
The copper... physically, financially,legally and emotionally drained takes the offer just to get his job back.
The dept. sends him to a shit district where he carries a brick on him forever, with NO back-pay.
The city/dept. "WIN-WIN-WIN"
Sorry to say it happens all the time.
And... Bill Cozzi got the double dutch fuking,... to wit: ALL of the above AND a costly retrial in federal court with a lengthily jail sentence.
And the beat goes on...
10/30/2009 05:58:00 PM
She was one of the first "merit" promotions, that much is true. Then when she stepped in shit big time, trying to back register a handgun for her gang banger son, they tried to stop the promotion.
The city fought the promotion but the court upheld it. The court said you can still fire a lieutenant. And as it turned out, she was fired, she didn't retire.....she was FIRED, as a Lt.
She may be collecting a pension though because only a felony conviction can strip a pension. If you got 50 years of age and 20 years of service, you still get your pension UNLESS you were convicted of a felony.
If she did 20 years she is probably drawing a pension, but she didn't "RETIRE", she was fired!
I am interested in knowing more about the corp counsel and their review of cases. I cant see how they have any input as far as the case being weak. They allowed the cae to go forward in the board so why dont they stand up and say that the case was badly investigated and should be given a re-look?
DOnt they understand that as lawyers, they have certain obligations. They have an IAD also! It is called Attorney Registration etc... They let it go forward without stepping up so they are named defendants on the civil suit and let them explain in Federal Court-why they tried to ram it up a coppers tail just for Jfed and company's witch hunts...
Just a thought..
I can tell you about the corp counsel a little bit. During the civil part of my case , the corp counsel representing me was great. In fact he made the IAd person look like a fool with about 30 minutes of examination. This in itself is a rarity becasue although they represent us they tend not to go after the IAD guys.
The entrie corp counsel staff that was involved in the civil end of the bs beef was outraged by the fact that this was ever sustained. When asked if they could do more by making a phone call or sending a letter, they said they werent alowed to do so. They are not even allowed to contact the corp counsels on the floor that tries to fire us and tell them that this case stinks and there is something rotten in Denmark. So basically the system is set up for the copper to fight it out without help that is warranted and factual.
The Board does see thru the bullshit cases in front of them. But it is unfair that the copper has to be subjected to this. To wait months even years before he/she is vindicated, while the dope dealing gang bangers are represented by Loevy and Loevy and paid out settlements just to avoid litigating them in court.
Former IAD guys says that the infamous ADS KIRBY told her people that too many gun turn ins=dirty too many warrants=dirty
too many pcs pinches=dirty
etc, etc, etc, etc....
What a tool....
As a result, many cases went to 30 pending.
Are you listening Mara Georges?
How about IAD folks who work in bars as a part time gig? WHat do you think about that LT.A.B.
hmmmmmmm...
AGain, 2 different types of discipline-clouted and non-clouted..
That Kirby has hurt a lot of hard working police officers. The reason being she was never the working police and didnt know that good work can be done with the right knowledge and elbow grease.
How do you look into the mirror and see a person? You are worse than the animal gang banger element. They dont know any better.
What are the discipline reduction stats for all the get out of jail free clout babies?
'And guess how they are going to finally handle this? You guessed it reverse senority including Sergeants on management in other districts!'
And just HOW did you think the Dept. was going to fill 40 fucking vacancies in a District that apparently NO ONE wants to bid into, at least as long as the Burger Queen presides over it?
THAT'S what seniority is all about...get over it. Be thankful that you (hopefully) have enough years on to avoid the draft.
The Board should explain why a cop has been placed back to work and visa versa if fired. This will finally put in the spotlight, the fact that the investigations are either done by inept people or they are driven by bosses who put a bullseye on the back of certain people.
This type of pressure will finally reveal how the un-clouted are crucified maybe just because...
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