Mail the Petitions
Sgt. John Northen (ret) has stepped up to the plate once again. He has generously agreed to be the point man for the Referendum and collect whatever sheets we send his way. He has a few stipulations and we have agreed to post them so everyone is on the same page:
- All Petitions must be notarized by the person collecting the signatures. For those of you unfamiliar with the notarization process, you must sign the Petitions in the presence of a Notary who will then stamp the Petition. This is a legal process and must be followed. BY LAW, Sgt. Northen cannot have the Petitions notarized on his own unless he collected the signatures. Most lawyers, some banks and even the Credit Union have Notaries on staff who will Notarize for a small fee or no fee for members/clients.
- Petitions will all be 8.5 by 11 inch paper. We had it set up to print that way on the website. Please do not deviate from this size. Proper postage must be on all the envelopes, and a return address is requested. Sgt. Northen will not and should not be responsible for postage due, registered mail or certified mail. First Class mail is fine, but if hand delivery is necessary for large numbers of Petitions, arrangements can be made via e-mail with Sgt. Northen for a meeting within the boundaries of the 018th Police District during hours chosen by Sgt. Northen.
- To verify receipt of the Petition delivery, it is requested that you include a self-addressed stamped envelope or postcard so Sgt. Northen can mail back a receipt. We can't require you to do this, but in the event of a challenge (and there will be challenges), it is preferable to show the Petitions were mailed legitimately.
- DO NOT number the Petitions. Once they are bound, Sgt. Northen will number the pages.
And the information for delivery:
- JOHN NORTHEN
1960 LINCOLN PARK WEST
CHICAGO, IL 60614
EXACTLY as posted above. E-mail contact is below:
- CPDFOP7@yahoo.com
Anyone wishing to assist Sgt. Northen with anything he might need is welcome to contact him. Let's see what we can do.
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:09 AM
90 Comments:
When I take my kids trick or treating Im getting signatures.
This post confirms that this thread by SCC is authentic, accurate and complete.
JOHN NORTHEN
1960 LINCOLN PARK WEST
CHICAGO, IL 60614
CPDFOP7@yahoo.com
Have the desk sergeant ask each arrestee to sign the petition after signing the bond slip!
LET'S ROLL........
This is the best I've felt in a long time.
Way to kill trees thats about all!!! Again we lose Focus on the big Picture And Daley Luvs it
Just wondering, can the signatures be for more than one issue. Example, less aldermen, ability to recall, term limits etc.
"To verify receipt of the Petition delivery, it is requested that you include a self-addressed stamped envelope or postcard so Sgt. Northen can mail back a receipt."
You can use the green "Return Receipt Requested" cards at the Post Office. When Sgt. Northen gets the mail, he removes the card, signs it, and gives it back to the mailman -- it then comes back through the mail to you as proof of delivery.
If you send it Certified Mail (NOT Registered, that's for objects with large monetary value that should be insured and is an unnecessary expense for paperwork), Return Receipt Requested, you'll get not only the green card back, but a tracking number that you can enter on www.usps.com to see where the piece is and when it was delivered.
Again, official proof against any challenges.
Lets do this!!! everyone can get at least 20 or so signatures...
SERIOUS QUESTION
Does it require a permit to collect signatures randomly on the street ? We’ve all seen people from outfits like Green Peace and such at busy intersections, especially on the weekend s hawking signatures. Does this practice require a permit ?
PUT IT ON FACEBOOK OR MYSPACE
Thank you John.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/10/state-gets-ready-for-early-prisoner-releases.html
Drug dealers get ready to double your profits!!!
Anonymous said...
Have the desk sergeant ask each arrestee to sign the petition after signing the bond slip!
10/30/2009 12:53:00 AM
A pre-condition for an I-Bond perhaps?
Off topic but here's a little something for all you 55 and out people. A summary of Pelosi's Health Care Bill highlights this tidbit
— Sets up a $10 billion reinsurance program for insurance plans which cover early retirees (those between ages 55 and 65).
Not sure what a reinsurance program entails but you had better believe the city knew this was coming as many speculated.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33531099/ns/politics-health_care_reform/
Thank you John
Super nice for doing this---thanks Sgt!
2:56 AM:
Under NO circumstances will I sign for CERTIFIED mail. That's a dealbreaker.
hope the city keeps sending him those well earned retirement checks,watchout for da chicago way!
Way to kill trees thats about all!!! Again we lose Focus on the big Picture And Daley Luvs it
10/30/2009 01:08:00 AM
Shut the fuck up, company man suck hole. How many times have you found yourself kneeling in front of your alderman? I won't ask what you were doing for him while on your knees.
Pathetic loser and fool best describe your sorry ass. Now watch the rest of us actually do something while you sit there and bite your nails wondering if your clout gets the boot.
Awesome!
For those of us who aren't regularly in contact with those who have petitions, where can we go to sign one?
A brave man to be putting his address out there like that
This is a good move and good organizing strategy. I would like to suggest, and volunteer for, a group of cops intersted in brainstorming for a candidate in the next mayoral election. Daley is weaker than ever right now, and the cops could have good impact in hurting him in the next campaign.
SCC _ I would like to point out that I have seen many petitions where an officer was signing and then using the district station address! This is WRONG! These petitions will be thrown out! You must sign your legal name and YOUR HOME ADDRESS where you are REGISTERED TO VOTE! Please fill these petitions out correctly - it would be a shame to have half of them thrown out due to error. THANKS!!
DO A RALLY THEY ONLY THING DALEY FEARS IS THE NEWS MEDIA!! PETITIONS IS A WASTE OF TIME AND EFFORT. PLAN A BIG RALLY OF COPS AND FIREMEN FOR DALEY CENTER PLAZA ON NOV 10th and U can even get your petitions signed there Just a thought from an old guy and a challenge to all my former usmcs
great idea to do this while taking kids trick or treating. WOW Imagine the numbers you can reach
Dear SCC,
Is there any way we can start one for term limitations so we can get rid of Daley and his crime family. I say, three terms is enough. We should never have to go through this again. Lets show Chicago we will not take Daley's shit any more. By the way I have a few sheets signed already.Get on the boat people, Please!
hey 108am, I agree we have many big fights, however sometimes you have to win many small battles to win the war. STEP UP and join in
there is now a site on facebook. EVERYONE join, it contains a link to print the petitions
"Proper Postage" for a business-sized (9 1/2" x 4 1/8") envelope is:
Up to 1 oz. = 44 cents
1-2 oz. = 61 cents
2-3 oz. = 78 cents
Postcard = 28 cents
If in doubt, weigh envelope at the post office. No CERTIFIED letters will be accepted.
Well Mr Mayor you now know why you didn't get our support for your olympics!
Mr Northern:
Thank you for your assistance in this, and God Bless You for your devoted friendship to Officer Cozzi. You are a good man. If you ever need something and I can do it for you, I give my word that it will be done.
Any Chase or BofA branch will notarize for customers for free (I've done it at both for various legal documents). I'd bet just about any bank would for a customer. If you have a large number of pages, it would be a good idea to call the branch and schedule a time with them.
Northside,
Thanks. It's nice to have someone on our side who always puts his money where his mouth is. You are a stand-up guy.
To the naysayers-come on guys. Give it a rest, already. We must start somewhere.
To the comment about having prisoners sign, that's funny but let's make sure that some of our 'less bright' brethren realize that this is NOT a good idea!
Thank you John.
Thanks so very much, John!
13th Ward friends, please dump Frank Olivio
Thanks Sgt.
Also my taxes only went up 182.00
Kudos to John Northen for undertaking this task. As always, the "devil is in the details". You outlined the specifics for proceedures very well. But just to be clear,signatures must be REGISTERED VOTERS of CHICAGO ONLY?
SCC,you are right on target about potential "CHALLENGES." Don't want to overstate the obvious, but would hate to see hours of work go down the drain. Random signatures pose risks,& illegals (who might be afraid to say they can't vote), plus, of course Stupid people who might sign for
2 or 3 different petitioners.Does
anyone need to be reminded not to collect signatures while in UNIFORM?, and as usual watch out for all manner of camera devices.A refresher course might be in order.
Thank You
"Does this practice require a permit ?
10/30/2009 04:35:00 AM"
You really have bought into the midget's bullshit, haven't you?
Waste of time and a misdirection of intent. To the guy who asked if a permit was needed: Are you a policeman? If so, you need to get retrained.
Thanks John on the job you were the "real police" retired John your still the "real police" God bless you John! 1 of the alst with true balls, you should of been the Super!!
Sgt. Northen Thanks for stepping up to the plate. "Together we Stand"
I just want to take this time to thank the F.O.P..
My house tax just went up $400.00 per installment. Thats $800.00 a year.
So I guess I am funding my own raise again? I cant believe we put up with this nonsense. They can counsel me until they or I am blue in the face. I answer my calls and thats it!
Anybody that does any work or even thinks of taking this job as a long term career is totally STUPID!
When going door to door bring extra petitions to give out to those that are extra excited about the idea. Ask them if they would be willing to collect signatures as well.
OT: Isn't Cardenas the Mut who uses his office budget to pay rent for his aldermanic office space, but the kicker is that he owns the building. So he pays himself! The city's Ethics rules prohibit aldermen from financial gain from office funds. I think Cardenas and the other 49 theives feel their exempt from all rules and laws. HE IS STEALING. HEY J-FED OR ANY FED CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE 50 THEIVES AND THEIR LEADER.
Good luck with this.
Even beyond the office expenses saved, with 25 council members, each is high-profile enough that voters can hold them accountable, and each would have enough power on the council to potentially make issues out of important things.
Next, I'd like to get rid of the State Senate. Or the State House. It works in Nebraska.
Time to march police and fire together thats the only thing that will work. How avbout getting Quin or Hynes to come out and help us. Ask your alderman to show up too. 2010 is the next election for alderman
Thanks John Northern,aka the "Real Police"
Hello,
This is directed to the many folks who have contacted me at CPDFOP7@yahoo.com. First, I thank you for your kind comments. This was NOT my idea. (Frankly, based on the population/members of city council ratios in New York City, Los Angeles, Houston and Phoenix, I personally believe that sixteen (16) wards in Chicago is more than enough for efficient government administration and legislation.)
Add to that a laundry list of reforms including a recall referendum initiative, term limits, a legit, transparent and clout-free promotion and assignment process, ad infinitum.
More importantly, perceive me as merely providing a mailing address for delivery of the duly executed, notarized petitions. I forwarded your inquiries and offers of assistance to SCC. Perhaps, he/she/they is in a better position to respond.
I will NOT be picking up petitions with one possible exception. Also, it is my understanding that each of multiple pages must be executed and notarized. If someone with fifteen (15) or more pages wishes to deliver them to me personally and with CONFIDENTIALITY assured, contact me via eMail with your full name, address, phone numbers and unit of CPD assignment, if applicable. At my discretion, we may arrange a meet during daytime hours at a high visibilty location within the confines of the 18th Police District (in front of the station house, Pearson & Michigan, Mariano Park aka "the Viagra Triangle", etc.)
Under no circumstances will I sign for CERTIFIED mail, pay postage or seek the services of a notary public.
My regards.
Thanks John! You are a true gentleman.
tonight 30 Oct 09 on wttw "Chicago Tonight" Mary Ann Ahern of NBC said that CPD and CFD are the sacred cows and haven't been asked to take 24 furlough days. They continued to say how CPD should take 24 days to help every other city worker along with the Alderman are doing their part. That motivated me to print out the pettition.
Hey John, I'm retired and no longer a registered voter but I will make sure I send Cozzi an extra card this week just in case this is taking you away from your REAL JOB. FREE COZZI!
PLEASE someone run against Levar, PLEASE!
---- OT ----
I'm hearing there has been a change to the IL tint restrictions.
"NOW LEGAL tint combinations.
1. Up to 35% in the Rear/up to 35% front
2. 35-30% in the rear/up to 50% front
3. IF YOU HAVE BELOW 30% TINT IN THE REAR, YOU CAN NOT HAVE FRONT TINT If you have an MPV, which include but are not limited to, SUVs, Station Wagons, minivans, Toasters, etc., and said MPV has factory installed privacy glass (smoked), you are allowed to have up to 50% tint in front."
http://www.cartype.com/pages/246/illinois_window_tinting_law
I wonder if we will be provided with VLT meters. Doubt it.
OT: Isn't Cardenas the Mut who uses his office budget to pay rent for his aldermanic office space, but the kicker is that he owns the building. So he pays himself! The city's Ethics rules prohibit aldermen from financial gain from office funds. I think Cardenas and the other 49 theives feel their exempt from all rules and laws. HE IS STEALING. HEY J-FED OR ANY FED CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE 50 THEIVES AND THEIR LEADER.
10/30/2009 02:37:00 PM
Unfortunately, the CPD det div. nor the Inspector General are allowed to investigate this (of course by a law passed by the alderthieves themselves)., only the FEDS. So how about it boss, you can go after Cozzi, time to make the call and get your Fed friends to go after the alderthieves.
There are a few huge (Police & Fire) benefits upcoming, would in be be possible with all respect and without losing focus of the benefits, to ask the hundreds or thousands attending to sign, and take petitions if desired. Thank You.
shopping malls, target, jewel, home depot, ect.
If anyone needs a notary, please email me. I'd be proud to be a part of this.
"Hey John, I'm retired and no longer a registered voter but I will make sure I send Cozzi an extra card this week just in case this is taking you away from your REAL JOB. FREE COZZI!
10/30/2009 07:27:00 PM"
Yes FREE Bill COZZI!
Jail Shorty and his crew of thieves!
Take back the Department and the City and the Country and fight to make things right.
Start by getting together with a relative or a friend, who still lives in Chicago and register there to vote.
This should be part of our new contract, if you are retired, AND drawing a pension, you have forever no matter where you live, the right to vote absentee for any city official who appoints a member of the pension board. FOP are (yeah, right) you listening?
See if the mayor would want to kick the retirees then. Ask for it and see if an arbitrator might give it to us.
All around, Johnny Northside may be the best detective ever. Way to go, John. You are blue to the bone.
I AM FURIOUS! I just watched FOX news at 9 with Larry Yellen interviewing Mike Shields. I checked it out further. Get this. First it was HUBERMAN.
Now WEIS, MASTERS, BRUST, KLIMAS and DALY will try to draw pensions from OUR pension fund.
If this isn't enough to wake up the brain dead to storm 3510 Michigan with torches and pitchforks, both active and retired deserve our fate.
FREE COZZI!
Dont kill trees have a rally-Daley luvs ur waste of time and not worth the paper your signatures are affixed too! Besides ever run for political office agaisnt the machine???... First thing they do is go after your petitions and based upon the nonsense here nobody will believe ur signatures and Get a Clue its not legally binding. Only a rally and public pressure and getting candidates to back us will force Daley's hand otherwise ur pissin in the wind while Daley laughs at you and ME. I challenege all cops firemen and their famalies to go to Daley Center Plaza on Nov 10th for a rally. It will make the news and be a shoe of Force.This will scare the Bjesus out of Daley!! and I dont have clout thats why Im on this blog-Semper Fi
Did you see Fox news. J-Fed is trying to dip into the pension fund. Mike Shields was on.
O.T. Fox news at 9 o'clock said Pissbum jody weis is IN the CPD pension fund.These fuckin thieves must be stopped.
NORTHSIDE
YOU BE DA MAN!
SCC,
Late breaking news...per Lt's Assn the 4-2 schedule has been scrapped. Tell me it ain't so.
I agree with Northside 4:47 PM.
This petiton is a step in right direction
Still John's research under REFERENDUM GOES MAINSTREAM proves that 25 aldercreatures is being to genrous. Based on the other big cities, Shitcago should have about 16 alderscum, term limits, recall and caps on campaign contributions.
Thank you Northside.
Gee work inside in 017 and u get to have OT for Trunk or Treat on the weekend-WWJD Mikey Meahler?... U let Gang bangers tag ur station and crime run rapid in 017 but yet u do NOTHING
have arrestees sign ur stupid petitions like that helps MARCH U FOOLS
personally, i think you might do better to work to elect less crooked politicians.
advisory referendums are nice but serve little purpose.
ANGRY PIG said...
O.T. Fox news at 9 o'clock said Pissbum jody weis is IN the CPD pension fund.These fuckin thieves must be stopped.
10/30/2009 09:41:00 PM
HEY MARKY MARK,HEY FAT HAUSER WTF YOU LETTING THIS HAPPEN ALSO?MARK WE KNOW YOUR GETTING A BIG JOB THROUGH DALEY AND A PENSION OF 75% OF 160,000 FOR LIFE PLUS RAISES AS YOU STEAL FROM THE PENSION FUND,WHAT GIVES MARK? SHIELDS FOR FOP PRESIDENT ALL THE WAY!
The person getting the signatures must be a notary or with a notary when the petitions are signed. They, who challenge these petitions, do not go after the people who sign, they go after the notary. There will be challenges.
SCC very intresting ...
The Park National shutdown occurred after several Illinois congressmen, including Reps. Bobby Rush and Danny Davis and Sen. Roland Burris, called the FDIC asking it to delay closing the bank for at least a week.
GEE one more week, you think someone was suppose to get paid with the new stimulus money And didn't !!! Come on really
when do petitions have to be submitted (DATE)
Anonymous said...
SCC,
Late breaking news...per Lt's Assn the 4-2 schedule has been scrapped. Tell me it ain't so.
10/30/2009 09:58:00 PM
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I thought it was only scrapped for the lieutenants?
Why not have a rally on Nov 11th? The exempts and other city workers are all on unpaid furlough days on that date, they all seem pretty mad....
if regular citizens want to sign these petitions, it would be nice if the FOP offered a location....they probably will not, don't forget some of them get exempt pay, without the un-paid furlough days
No, I'm not a Chicago Police Officer, I'm just a common everyday citizen who wouldn't mind spending a few hours in the cold and rain to collect signatures because I don't want public safety cut backs.
If my house catches fire I want a fire truck;
If I get sick I want an ambulance and paramedics;
If I’m in a jam I want someone to come when I dial 911;
I want my family to be safe on the street;
I want to see that police car rolling down the street with an eye out for trouble;
I want all the thousands of things that police officers, fire fighters and paramedics do for me everyday to keep right on happening.
Paying my taxes isn't enough anymore in Chicago, it looks like I have to put my ass on the line a little too and I don't mind because the alternative is unthinkable. Mayor Daley and his cronies have run this city into the ground and bleed it white but it is still my home and I'm not ready to abandon it.
So do I need a permit or not ?
I already know I risk a beating from the thugs at the ward office.
Gee work inside in 017 and u get to have OT for Trunk or Treat on the weekend-WWJD Mikey Meahler?... U let Gang bangers tag ur station and crime run rapid in 017 but yet u do NOTHING
10/30/2009 10:18:00 PM
.............................................bid out baby so i can bid in from 003. your problems are nothing
"personally, i think you might do better to work to elect less crooked politicians.
advisory referendums are nice but serve little purpose.
10/30/2009 10:26:00 PM"
to the few, scattered comments of this ilk, ponder this:
1. practice makes perfect
2. every journey begins with the first step
3. building confidence is a step by step process
4. ever roll a small snowball down a snow covered hill?
5. experience is the best teacher
6. if at first you don't succeed, try, try again
7. in the long run, perseverance pays off
8. who won that race, between the tortoise and the hare?
9. which is better, short fuse w/ small bang or long fuse w/ big bang? (wait for it......)
Although I agree with what you are trying to do with the petitions, it won't work. They (the politicians)will go through the petitions with a fine tooth comb and disqualify them. I have first hand experience on this and I am a department member!
IF NOTHING ELSE.... by the time these signatures are counted politicians will be looking my friends. They want to know if we really can make a difference. Whether our goal is reached or not if our numbers CAN make a difference in an election than we have WON the battle. That's when all these pussy politicians who have henceforth refused to come into battle with us will rush to be at our sides. We can pick and choose who we want. Finally. Get those signatures because they matter more than you know.
I don't care who is running against Daley any more they will get my and my families VOTE.
We should have a petition for all city offices for term limits, but that can be next time. Lets keep the ball rolling on this one, I'm signing.....
WHOA!
Enough of "the Northside Lovefest". If you had to walk in my shoes with Daley and his arrogant, corrupt muthafuckers, providing a mailing address is the least that you would do. It also helps to be retired from the CPD clusterfuck.
It's my privilege to help out in a small way. Just don't make me blush, guys.
Thank You John, and may G-d bless you!!!
" Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith,Let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it." Abraham Lincoln 1860
I signed it and would love to see this happen!
It is a start to take back this city from stealing politicians!
"So do I need a permit or not ?
I already know I risk a beating from the thugs at the ward office.
10/31/2009 02:22:00 AM"
No, you do not.
The person getting the signatures must be a notary or with a notary when the petitions are signed. They, who challenge these petitions, do not go after the people who sign, they go after the notary. There will be challenges.
10/30/2009 10:51:00 PM
SCC can you please straighten this out for all and make it clear whats right and whats wrong. This type of info is spooking those who are willing to go out and get signatures. Thank you.
10:41 PM
The person collecting signatures does NOT need a Notary Public present. It's only after the signatures (all Chicago voters) are collected that the collector must execute the bottom portion of each page of the petition for the seal of the Notary Public. Fill in all blanks except the page line in lower right handed corner.
Remember that each page of up to ten registered Chicago voters must be seperately executed and notarized.
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