Cheapening the Awards
Someone please tell us that the Policy Group isn't getting Department Commendations for setting up the Superintendent's "Speaker Series"?
If they can create a "Perfect Attendance Award," an "Appearance Award," and even a "Pipe Band Award," can't they create some "House Mouse Award" or a "Party Organizer with a Gun Award?"
Why cheapen an award that is actually supposed to recognize excellence in Police work? Yes, we know it's been done before, but it was wrong then and it's wrong now.
If they can create a "Perfect Attendance Award," an "Appearance Award," and even a "Pipe Band Award," can't they create some "House Mouse Award" or a "Party Organizer with a Gun Award?"
Why cheapen an award that is actually supposed to recognize excellence in Police work? Yes, we know it's been done before, but it was wrong then and it's wrong now.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
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What a bunch of strokes! I hope they have some self-respect and refuse that award. What's next honorable mentions for station runs?
A DC was already cheapen. I've been to award ceremonies and have seen P/O's get DC's for PSMV. I always figured that to be a Honorable at best.
Awards are not used to reward good work anymore, they are used to keep people motivated. Thats all.
Hamilton is a jerkoff, and the speaker series has some good points, but still a shallow forum. Developing a speaker series is like being a booking agent. Big Deal.
attendance?? what the fuck?
crime reduction? Bull shit
Obama ribbon...no self respecting republican would ever wear that
It's no surprise where one of the members of J-Fed's "Stink Tank" is also the creator of The Female Tactical Association. This little rant is going to be o.t. SCC has done a good job with filtering the sexist comments on this blog about female officers. As I look around now at the quality of some of the females being hired I have to shake my head. I remember back when I got on the job 15 years ago that their were some tough gals on this job. Now, some are barely over five feet, work the watch for only a couple of years before going to Tac, CAPS, Think tank, etc.
It seems like the balance has shifted for the men with some woman having more power. Even the ones that work hard out there are spineless when it comes to supervisors, having the mentality of, "Well, he's my Sgt. so I better believe that whatever he says is gold."
Even the gals that are PPO's that got nothing going for them, no brains, looks, skills, etc. When they are just about off probation do they get dumped to another district like a lot of guys have? Nope.
It's a shame because this department has a lot of great female officers that anyone would have no problem working with, but the more they lower the hiring standards, the worse it gets.
I wonder if any of the ladies that actually have no life and show up for the little female tactical association meetings would freely admit that the only reason that most of them are on those teams, is because of the liberal policy's that the dept. has incorporated where each team supposedly should have x amount of females?
Sorry for the long rant but some of these gals on tac and gang talk a lot of shit like sailors. When it's time to brawl however, they just stand there. I'd tell a couple of them to fuck off but I really don't feel like having them run to a white shirt and get a hostile work environment beef, which sadly, even they know deep down, is all that they can do.
What about the academy people getting Department Commendations for teaching the in-car camera training??? Both are akin to giving an entire district DC's for handling their 911 assignments.
Im still waiting for my D/C from four years ago.
ive been rejected for several d.c for robbery patterns, burglary etc denied by the brass. if they give a dc to these people in the policy group then that is a major sham and slap in the face of the entire award process. why the hell should I be humping all day long and not get an award for it, but they can be in a cush spot at 35th st on some policy b.s when we are shorthanded and they get an award.. complete bullsh*t! why even do work anymore when I can get a d.c for agreeing with the brass
you forgot some--- i have never worked 8 hours in my career award, i am a sgt but i have never made an arrest award, i work the desk with 2 years on the job award, i work second watch with 2 years on the job because i am the aldermans neighbor, i have been counseled numerous times but continue to do nothing award, i told the captain that i could give two shits what my activity was for the past 3 periods award..........
what's wrong with a pipe band award?? bagpipers and drummers play at all police and fire funerals, benefits, retirement parties, promotion parties etc etc. 99% of it is on their own time at their own expense. dont put the pipe bands in the same category as the d-bags from the policy group
Nepolean said give a fool a ribbon and he will march to his death.
I AM STILL WAITING FOR MY LIFESAVING AWARDS ( MANY ) FOR LOCKING UP ALL THOSE FOR "POSS. OF CRACK COCAINE " BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW "CRACK" KILLS. AND I SAVED ALL THE LIVES. FLIP
may be SLIGHTLY off topic but:
WHY WE DO THIS
Was at a friends place the other day who is an avid Ham radio nut. I had occasion to listen to the radios and was listening to the Logansport Fire Department. Where that is I have no clue. A call came in about a car accident. Rote stuff. I dismissed the call until the female dispatcher with a breaking voice came on and said there were small kids in the car trapped. At that moment the responding fire equipment was acknowledging the initial call with the usual siren in the background. The Crash Truck (I learned later that that piece of equipment only rolls on horrible accidents) came up on the air and you could literally HEAR the determination in that mans voice. Now mind you, radio calls dont generally get me all excited, but there was something about this one. You know the ones. The ones where you can tell by the sound of the guys voice that its bad. I listened on and again the Crash Truck went " on the scene" and the crew switched to portables. Since it was a repeated system I could hear everything that happened. The man mentioned above came up one final time and in the background you could hear a small child crying the way they do when they are shaken and scared. "We got em all out, they're all ok" It was a relief to hear that. I dont know who that man was or even where the hell Logansport Fire Dept is but if you ever read this Sir, you are another reason why we all do what we all do. Thank you for saving those kids. Thank you for going that extra inch. Most impressive.This is another example of WHY WE DO THIS.
Thanks for posting SCC.
Making up bullshit awards is not going to improve morale.
You want cheap? Lt P.S., the micromanaging cancer in 003 received an honorable for shooting a man with a taser and missing with one probe, then calling a Sgt to do the job right. She received another for positioning a moving van so the members of a household could move out. She received a third for working during a heat wave in 2006 and being there "aiding assisting, and commanding."
Read the full narratives for a good laugh!
When I first got on it was very rare to see someone with a double stack (6) of awards and if you did, that person got into some serious shit or they were a bad ass, mo fo. Now if you show up to work they give them to you.
I once had the honor of receiving a Dept Commendation for doing 'real' police work. I was saddened to observe at my ceremony, the Commander of the Intelligence and about 5 or 6 of his suck holes ahead of me all receiving some top award for some BS investigation. If that wasn't bad enough, that same Commander got off the stage and ran back to the other side of the stage in order to receive ANOTHER DC along with another slew of suck holes. In all, about 8 people from Intelligence went home with about 15 total ribbons. Talk about cheapening awards. Till then, I was proud of my accomplishment, but they sure deflated my ego that day!
There's like 5 ribbons that you can have that don't require making any type of arrest. Created these to make those that do nothing "feel good" and let the new kids look like heros.
Scc...even though the pipe band award may seem far fetched, it is literally the only recognition the department gives for the volunteer service of all that do it. Please don't put the pipe band in the same trick bag as all of the politcally heavy strokes at 35th St.
The clouted always have enough ribbons to make a quilt with.
Unfortunately, they don't have the smarts NOT TO flash them around in front of others. Instead of wearing them around, they should be embarrassed enough to keep them in a drawer at home.
At least anything that I wore, I knew that I earned. The clouted are not able to REALLY get that feeling.
It's very sad, but normal practice for the house mice to receive awards for made up BS from their loving brass. The brass just want to pad the mice resume's so they will be possible merit later. It's a complete joke and just another reason awars meam nothing.
What about the academy people getting Department Commendations for teaching the in-car camera training??? Both are akin to giving an entire district DC's for handling their 911 assignments.
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Nobody ever received a DC for doing in car camera... Go back and jump on some more paper so you can try to get an award, you have no idea what you are talking about you stroke.
"At least anything that I wore, I knew that I earned. The clouted are not able to REALLY get that feeling."
It's relative. Nothing is gonna change. and YES I agree, there was a MUCH higher standard years ago when it came to awards. but the feeling of accomplishment is for the individual. We all have honorables that are Bull Shit..that is an undeniable fact. perhaps we have commendations that are bull shit.
All the awards you have boil down to one thing, and that is Luck. NO matter how you look at it, it's a "right place at the right time" or just plain luck.
Not taking away from long term investigations, but in patrol, thats mostly the case
Don't forget the "Election night" Award ribbon. I seen the Order about 6 months ago... I think J-fed is the only one getting this for his 1st ribbon on OUR UNIFORM!
The awards never did mean anything.
I went to one ceremony and once I heard what police were receiving awards for, I threw mine in the garbage.
It's all a joke.
Your check is your only reward.
Who cares? I didn't take this job to get a few honorables and D.C.'s to take home to brag about. I took the job, because I enjoy the job. You want to improve your personal moral, ignore these type of things. It's nice SCC brought it to light, but stressing about it will never change it.
I saw a guy I trained (bob g.) who went from the desk to headquarters and had two rows of ribbons...made me feel bad for the guys who work hard in the streets and get nothing.
I was amazed when I saw a photograph of Dana Starks after a few years as an exempt member. He had four rows of ribbons on his uniform. When he was a lieutenant, for a very shsort time, he did not have any. You have to dress up those uniforms to impress the folks. When the beat guy wants a little recognition, he gets nothing.
Let me say it. This police department is a fucken joke. I worked in texas before i came here(mistake) the department priorities are reversed. Take care of ones own, provide security for the public, no bullshit arrest, and most important good police work and lock up or hurt violent bad guys. get the job done and put scum away. The chicago way is the complete reverse.
It's not the coppers fault it's just the leaders of this city and the direction they we are taking us..DETROIT, CLEVELAND
I've got a double stack too...most from 015 in the early 80's where a beat car double homicide pinch got you a "nice goin' kid". Refuse to wear them..havn't in years, precisely because of this crap...fuck it,,too short to worry about this shit now.
Traffic stop of the month???
Top Gun Award?
Attendance?
what the Hell
Guy I work with got a dc a couple weeks ago at role call for something like 3 years ago...no explanation with it, just the paperwork. He didn't even know what it was for.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Scc...even though the pipe band award may seem far fetched, it is literally the only recognition the department gives for the volunteer service of all that do it. Please don't put the pipe band in the same trick bag as all of the politcally heavy strokes at 35th St.
11/13/2009 08:57:00 AM
While your service at pipe band is greatly appreciated, perhaps there is a patch or something you could receive that is not a ribbon.... maybe a different colored memorial bar or something like the fitness pin or something.
A guy I work with, maybe 4 years on, left the district for TRU after probation. ONE year later, he comes back with a double stack. WTF?
What about a DC and merit Sgt. for writing a parking ticket?
Beat that
It started when everyone got the award for the 1996 DNC instead of just those who worked the DNC. I still refer to it as the "I got hired before 1996" ribbon.
Just got my DC from armed robbery/police involved shooting in roll call a few months ago. Incident occured in 2006. My partner and i didnt get invited to any Award ceremony, but what the fuck do i know. I am just a working copper, not a house mouse clout baby suck ass.
Two of my guys were enroute to the Area for a pool car. On the way back, they hear a flash on citywide and make an arrest on a theft just occurred. Turns out there was a pattern and my two guys cleared it with this arrest.
All of a sudden, while processing the arrest, the place is crawling with dicks from some secret squirrel unit, all wanting copies of everything.
Some time later during a court appearance on the case, and purely by accident, one of my guys discovers that EVERYONE in the secret squirrel unit is getting an award for their part on the case, but NOT my two guys WHO MADE THE ARREST! I call the squirrel Sgt and he promptly blames the Lt, who included HIMSELF on the award.
The Lt arrogantly claims his people had done surveillance on the pattern and cleared numerous other cases, (though no additional charges are added) and the award was for that and not the actual arrest and therefore my guys weren't added to the award. It didn't faze him one bit when it was pointed out that without my guys grabbing the bad guy, he had ZERO.
It wasn't until I suggested that I would complete a report detailing the circumstances of the arrest and why my guys deserved to receive the award more than his people who were not involved at all with the arrest, and send it through the entire chain of command, that he agreed to include the arresting officers for the award.
Moral of the story? Watch your backs. There are a ton of slimy, snaky clouted people out there that will f*ck you in a heartbeat to further their own pitiful careers.
Like the Sgt. in 019 who puts himself in for DCs for
"coordinating" every time there's a great pinch and he's working. And he gets it!
The award system in this department is shit!
For approval purposes no names should be on the nomination form or available to any person approving awards.
And how about the bosses that jump on the award that have nothing what so ever to do with the accomplishment?
How can they earn a DC for an undescribed job.
How do you go above duty working on policy?
It's all bs!
Give me the dogass of the year award cause I ain't doing shit for this city.
Speaking of awards my favorite Sgt. L.B. from 17 I believe was the only person I ever met who counted his honorables "194, almost 200", to bad he could never reach into his pockets when it was time to by a round, rather then, "Time to go".
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Im still waiting for my D/C from four years ago.
11/13/2009 02:09:00 AM
THEY WILL MAIL IT TO YOU WITH SOME BS LETTER TELLING YOU THEY ARE BACKLOGGED.
Weis doesn't want to hear old stories. He wants shit that happened when he was here.
I'll take a duck day over a fucking ribbon any day of the week. Than again I dont have police shit all over my house. The police star is not on every shirt or jacket I wear and the car I drive dosent look like an unmarked police car. I believe people who do this our pussies and use the Im the police to protect them.
I was denied a D/C for catching a homicide offender with three other officers. The deputy told one of the other officers who knew him if he could take another look at it. The deputy respond was I don't read them. At the same time a commander kid got a D/C for catching a burglary. This was in the mid nineties. To this day I have never asked to be put in for another award.
Craig said...
A DC was already cheapen. I've been to award ceremonies and have seen P/O's get DC's for PSMV. I always figured that to be a Honorable at best.
11/13/2009 12:17:00 AM
A north side senior citizens officer from the CAPS office received a DC for taking the seniors to the casino by the busload. No shit.
Threw all that nonsense away when I retired. Figured nobody cares and I was correct
old retired guy
I have awards for being the Police on the streets and NOT in some goofy CAPS office or working some inside job and I am now embarrassed to wear them!
Especially on hearing the crap other people get awards for! They should be ashamed of themselves!
Thanks a lot to all the phony Exempts that signed off on this garbage!
what's wrong with a pipe band award?? bagpipers and drummers play at all police and fire funerals, benefits, retirement parties, promotion parties etc etc. 99% of it is on their own time at their own expense. dont put the pipe bands in the same category as the d-bags from the policy group
11/13/2009 06:11:00 AM
Yeah, it's great what they do, but an award for it to wear? Gimme a F'kn break.
Im still waiting for my D/C from four years ago.
11/13/2009 02:09:00 AM
Me too was told I was awarded a "non-ceremony" D.C. was awarded it in March from an arrest from 10-06.No biggie about the non-ceremony but now they can't physically produce the award its missing and no one knows to get one to me?
Check out all the names from IAD on that list! A few moved or got dumped out of there but they're getting an award for jamming up coppers while REAL police are there getting awards for police work! What a slap in the face.
The policy group consists of a sergeant and a couple of five year wonders. Nice.
Has anyone ever noticed that North Side coppers look like Mexican generals while South Side coppers typically don't receive commendations because they are just doing their jobs?
Please don't put the pipe band in the same trick bag as all of the politcally heavy strokes at 35th St.
Are those the same "politcally" heavy strokes at 35th St, that approved your bullshit award?
Can I bring a perfect attendance award to my roll call show and tell.
Saw an order a few weeks ago in the CO book that had 3 pages with 60 on a page. That is 300 awardees for department commedations. In 40 + years I have not seen anything near that much being awarded at one time.
If you fools are selling out to Jod-I Weiss to the "oh please love me and I will give award you all" bullshit, well you are less than men. The previous post was 100% right, these awards have been cheapened and that is a shame.
The awards mean nothing after last years Lambert Tree.
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11/13/2009 01:30:00 AM
I am sorry but you seem to miss the message here.
The Woman's Tactical Assoc. is not woman on tact teams.
This is another idiotic thing thought up by K.B., the five year know it all who works in the Sups office.
Woman police officers meet weekly (some of them on duty) and they have speakers to tell them how to be better officers (not necessarily a bad thing) and people come and teach them how to shoot and about control tactics.
The problem with this is that K.B and some of her "chosen few" in this group (not all) are doing this on duty and getting paid to do this on duty. If only some are getting paid and not all, it begs the question why not? And why then can not ANYONE on this job do something like working out ON DUTY. Some of the events planned for this group are outside the city, like shooting in Mt. Carroll IL.
This group is like the Woman's Police Assoc that went to the wayside years back - why, because it is a joke and they try to do their events on duty.
This is ghostpayrolling at its finest. Where is the accountability?
Anonymous said...
Scc...even though the pipe band award may seem far fetched, it is literally the only recognition the department gives for the volunteer service of all that do it. Please don't put the pipe band in the same trick bag as all of the politcally heavy strokes at 35th St.
11/13/2009 08:57:00 AM
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Explain how it is "volunteer service?"
They perform many functions while on duty carried code 047 or 049.
When not on duty, they strong arm for donations.
Anonymous said...
What about the academy people getting Department Commendations for teaching the in-car camera training??? Both are akin to giving an entire district DC's for handling their 911 assignments.
11/13/2009 02:08:00 AM
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I beleive that these were HM's not DC's. But they do give out HM's at the Academy if you are a homeroom instructor or if you help out at a graduation!
Don't forget about the psychotics, criminals, and light duty abusers down in call back getting honorables for finishing a certain number of case reports.
.....but I haven't been on the medical or suspended in 5 years?
Thats such fuckin bs. I had surgery for my first Dc. And nearly got killed for the second. But people get problem solving awards for locking up bums on lower wacker dr.
Southside Straight Shooter, U can kiss my big fat white female ass. I have been turned down for dc's several times, because of being a working female who didn't suck or fuck any1 with a white shirt. Having made homocide arrests, and got only the honorable mention, (have to say it) northsiders got awarded for surrounding a building of a burglary in progress. Guess what?, at the end of my time, I don't have to prove anything to any1 and I don't owe any1 a damn thing. BTW, all of my recruits (who wanted to learn this job) learned it well and have turned in to the real POLICE. Furthermore, I worked tac and I have never heard of FTA, of which you speak, and would not join anyway.
the award system went down the tubes over a decade ago. I have complete idiots on my team who have a great complimentary history but would not be a pimple on a policeman's ass.
I personally know of several coppers that received the Sups. Award of Valor and had nothing to do with the incident except be there after and know a very big boss! Sad part is a copper died in the line of duty during the incident. It should never be who you know for such an award! Fuckn awards mean NOTHING!!!
Just got my DC from armed robbery/police involved shooting in roll call a few months ago. Incident occured in 2006. My partner and i didnt get invited to any Award ceremony, but what the fuck do i know. I am just a working copper, not a house mouse clout baby suck ass.
11/13/2009 01:12:00 PM
You guys complain when you don't get awards and complain when you get them. Damn make up your mind already.
SO you are saying that the award of valor is now something just given away? Please let me know I know there are some people who have awards (DC'S) for writing parking tickets!!!!!!!!!!!
Valadez benefit was huge turn out. God Bless Alex Rest in Peace.
I was at the Award of Valor ceremony this year and it was pretty sad.
66 or so coppers were given this prestigious award.
I almost died the night I earned the Medal. If you did not get shot at, a gun pointed at you, or shoot somebody to save yourself or another, YOU DONT DESERVE IT!
Just because you partner did the right thing does not make you entitled. Way too many paratroopers.
WHO CARES?????
Anonymous said...
Has anyone ever noticed that North Side coppers look like Mexican generals while South Side coppers typically don't receive commendations because they are just doing their jobs?
11/13/2009 04:36:00 PM
Is that an insult to Mexican generals?
I got a Lifesaving award in Department mail for "an action which saved a life" No shit. An unspecified action at an undisclosed place at an unspecified date and time. Now there is something to be proud of.
When I brought it home my sweet wife, who still believes that what I do is noble of spirit, laughed her ass off at that one. She is learning, The 1st time I hear her say "fucking goddamn shithead cock sucker" I will know it is time to retire. I wouldn't want her to get jaded also. She keeps me in tune with real people.
BTW, the award went in the drawer with the rest of them. Never once has an award ever been worn on my uniform. I refuse to cheapen myself by adorning my uniform with these bullshit citations.
In the interest of full disclosure, I’m a member of the Women’s Tactical Association (WTA). In response to the attacks made on the WTA, I would just like to make a few comments:
We were formed to provide training opportunities to female law enforcement officers, but we welcome men and women alike. It has been my experience in the CPD that we, as a collective group, are fearful of change. We are also ready to tear down our fellow officer at a moment’s notice. The same fellow officer that we may stand beside at roll call. The one that may be responding to that 10-1 that you call. The one that will stand in line at your wake, mourning your loss despite having never met you.
We constantly tear each other down. And for what? I’m really not sure. Is it jealousy? Is it flat out gender or racial bias? Is it a shift of power (yes, that was for you, 1:30am) that men cannot stomach? Comments such as “Even the gals that are PPO's that got nothing going for them, no brains, looks, skills, etc” are so completely asinine that it boggles the mind how one could make such a comment and pass our psychological vetting process. Last time I checked, this department was still dominated by males. Last I checked, there is no requirement to be a beauty pageant winner or a model in order to carry our star. Last I checked – this department has never been run by a female.
Now, lest this discussion become one that mimics our current state of partisan politics with democrats pointing at republicans and republicans pointing right back, I would like to turn attention back to the point of the WTA. It’s an organization that was created to better ourselves as law enforcement officers. Is this such a horrible goal? To learn how to shoot better, to handle one’s self when faced with a crisis situation, to render medical aid to a fellow officer? Because that is what I have learned. I will be happy to NOT use a tourniquet on your potentially life threatening injury – but please just tell me in advance and I will just call for that ambulance.
I have also learned, and not from the WTA, but just having the privilege of being a Chicago Police Officer, is that there will always be pettiness, jealousy and a spirit of NON-camaraderie among many of the discontents on this job. My hope that we will ever be able to stand as one has faded, much like the blue shirt I wear.
Nice to see that the triple merit Lt. with an entire complimentary history of two Honorable Mentions, TOTAL for all awards, finally got her first DC! Bet she's a Commander within 6 months on top of it!
Makes me proud to wear the uniform. *pukes*
Hey don't hate. I worked in 3 different south side districts and was not put in for many HMs, DCs and life saving awards. Sgt's response " it's part of your job". Or they were plain lazy to help a PO out and type it. So what can I say but woof woof it's part of my job to just answer the radio when called.
Wow are we talking about the two females officer ,who have maybe four years on the job and walk around at 35th Michigan wearing designer clothing.I bet these two officers never worked the inner city ghetto Districts like some of the
real females officers ,who wear the real police uniform and are not scared to kill a shit head ,if need be.
I bet those two house mouse and scared to kill a
mouse or a roach!
A guy I work with, maybe 4 years on, left the district for TRU after probation. ONE year later, he comes back with a double stack. WTF?
11/13/2009 12:26:00 PM
the biggest difference is that the sgts put people in for awards. In the districts they don't have the time or just don't do it.
Explain how it is "volunteer service?"
They perform many functions while on duty carried code 047 or 049.
When not on duty, they strong arm for donations.
Holy shit, a little bitter are we? Sure they may get carried on certain things, like police funerals. If u are so jealous go out and spend a couple of thousand on the uniforms and equipment and join. a lot of the stuff they do is as favors, no pay involved.
No I am not in the band but know a few that are, they are performing a honorable tribute when they perform. So what if they strong arm people for donations, if u dont want to pony up, be a man and tell them how u feel, dont bitch about it here on the blog.
What about the academy people getting Department Commendations for teaching the in-car camera training??? Both are akin to giving an entire district DC's for handling their 911 assignments.
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Nobody ever received a DC for doing in car camera... Go back and jump on some more paper so you can try to get an award, you have no idea what you are talking about you stroke.
11/13/2009 09:42:00 AM
Since you seem to be on the topic of “strokes”, why don’t you tell us about all of your esteemed police experience? There are a VERY small percentage of the “In Car Camera” instructors than have done Police work! Like one or two in the whole program! (L.D. is one of them!) That midget F-1 down there has all of 30 seconds on the street, what the fuck can she tell anyone about a traffic stop. There are a few others there that have a few more years on the job and haven’t done SHIT while on the street! That job needs to be reserved for old-timers who have “Been there, done that”! COPS with 20, 25, 28 years of doing the job. Not some punk-ass 4 year wonder who hasn’t done a damn thing on the job except for kissing ass to get inside!
Anonymous said...
Has anyone ever noticed that North Side coppers look like Mexican generals while South Side coppers typically don't receive commendations because they are just doing their jobs?
11/13/2009 04:36:00 PM
theres nothing wrong with looking like a mexican general. Ay Chihuahua! - bumble bee man
In the interest of full disclosure, I’m a member of the Women’s Tactical Association (WTA). In response to the attacks made on the WTA, I would just like to make a few comments:
We were formed to provide training opportunities to female law enforcement officers, but we welcome men and women alike. It has been my experience in the CPD that we, as a collective group, are fearful of change. We are also ready to tear down our fellow officer at a moment’s notice. The same fellow officer that we may stand beside at roll call. The one that may be responding to that 10-1 that you call. The one that will stand in line at your wake, mourning your loss despite having never met you.
We constantly tear each other down. And for what? I’m really not sure. Is it jealousy? Is it flat out gender or racial bias? Is it a shift of power (yes, that was for you, 1:30am) that men cannot stomach? Comments such as “Even the gals that are PPO's that got nothing going for them, no brains, looks, skills, etc” are so completely asinine that it boggles the mind how one could make such a comment and pass our psychological vetting process. Last time I checked, this department was still dominated by males. Last I checked, there is no requirement to be a beauty pageant winner or a model in order to carry our star. Last I checked – this department has never been run by a female.
Now, lest this discussion become one that mimics our current state of partisan politics with democrats pointing at republicans and republicans pointing right back, I would like to turn attention back to the point of the WTA. It’s an organization that was created to better ourselves as law enforcement officers. Is this such a horrible goal? To learn how to shoot better, to handle one’s self when faced with a crisis situation, to render medical aid to a fellow officer? Because that is what I have learned. I will be happy to NOT use a tourniquet on your potentially life threatening injury – but please just tell me in advance and I will just call for that ambulance.
I have also learned, and not from the WTA, but just having the privilege of being a Chicago Police Officer, is that there will always be pettiness, jealousy and a spirit of NON-camaraderie among many of the discontents on this job. My hope that we will ever be able to stand as one has faded, much like the blue shirt I wear.
11/13/2009 10:12:00 PM
Good post. I have no idea who wrote it but I hope it was my buddy. Every ehnic group in this dept has there own organization. Whats the big deal if women have one too?
About the In Car Camera people, one of the all time best teaches that. I don't want to name names.Those in the know know who.
A Sgt lied in the narrative for an Award of Valor to take care of a Clouted police officer and 2 female officers that he has been trying to get into the pants of. They never gave it up to him either...Sarge,ya lied and made a false report and have no integrity.
I was involved in a shooting several years ago. When an officer uses his weapon the award of valor is generally given to her/ him as a way of saying great job. Officers are confronted with this situation daily and officers that pull the trigger know that their lives will be forever changed. It is the longest half a second decision of their career. Most stay quiet and humble about the situation (again most). But when you wear that award it’s a proud moment knowing for that one day you and your partner did a great job and not a single soul can take that away from you. You got one for the good guys and for those falling officers that were killed in the line of duty that never got to return fire.
BTW, the award went in the drawer with the rest of them. Never once has an award ever been worn on my uniform. I refuse to cheapen myself by adorning my uniform with these bullshit citations
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If they are Bullshit..then why do you keep them?????..that is what I thought.
"Nobody ever received a DC for doing in car camera... Go back and jump on some more paper so you can try to get an award, you have no idea what you are talking about you stroke."
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Whoa there, sparky. I think the point was the in-car camera peeps SHOULD get a DC....
mexican general, you should see what a polish general looks like-- you have to hand it to the crafty polish army-- charging 80 ton battle tanks with horse cavalry took some balls....
We constantly tear each other down. And for what? I’m really not sure. Is it jealousy? Is it flat out gender or racial bias? Is it a shift of power (yes, that was for you, 1:30am) that men cannot stomach? Comments such as “Even the gals that are PPO's that got nothing going for them, no brains, looks, skills, etc” are so completely asinine that it boggles the mind how one could make such a comment and pass our psychological vetting process. Last time I checked, this department was still dominated by males. Last I checked, there is no requirement to be a beauty pageant winner or a model in order to carry our star. Last I checked – this department has never been run by a female.
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What's so hard for you to understand? Sorry, but when I wrote no brains, looks, common sense, etc., I meant that men that show these quality's usually get passed to another district like a rotten egg while a female doesn't. And yes, woman that are good looking get perks on this job lots of times. If you can't except that then you are in denial.
I do think the rest of your post was intelligently written and understand your other points.
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Good post. I have no idea who wrote it but I hope it was my buddy. Every ehnic group in this dept has there own organization. Whats the big deal if women have one too?
About the In Car Camera people, one of the all time best teaches that. I don't want to name names.Those in the know know who.
11/14/2009 01:41:00 AM
Congratulations! You win the Stroke of the Year ribbon!
How about R.G. 3rd watch 017 with his ribbons on his chest like he is a five star general..he has awards on that were handed out before he even got on the job!! He has ribbons on for awards that he did not receive but uses them in a sad attempt to impress the ladies while he is flexing his muscles in his shirts that he had altered to make his biceps look bigger..hey R.G. why don't you grow up and wear only what you actually earned instead of being the poser you truly are!!!!! We know that the 3rd watch captain LOVES you but we know you're a stroke---man up already!
and hey to post 3:37 am...isn't that clouted po that same one that in 017 just tracked down a guy for agg bat with handgun with the help with a few of his fellow P.Os but when asked, he singlehandedly took credit for locating the guy...most people don't care about box 1 and box 2 but at least give credit when it is due..you did not find that guy on your own T.N. from 3rd watch 017..at least say thank you to those guys who helped out and when people ask you, be honest instead of making it your own Army of 1 asshole!!
Jody Weis is like the great white man who is handing out colored beads to the indians on the shores of Plymouth Rock.
Be happy with your beads little indians, that is all your going to get from the great white asshole.
My partner and I were involved in a shooting back in 1998. The POS that shot at us and put 3 holes in our car and exchanged fire with my partner got 2 counts of attempt murder my partner and I didn't get so much as an HM. Oh well, time to head back to the White Hen for more coffee...cool the new Maxim is here!
I was involved in a shooting several years ago. When an officer uses his weapon the award of valor is generally given to her/ him as a way of saying great job. Officers are confronted with this situation daily and officers that pull the trigger know that their lives will be forever changed. It is the longest half a second decision of their career. Most stay quiet and humble about the situation (again most). But when you wear that award it’s a proud moment knowing for that one day you and your partner did a great job and not a single soul can take that away from you. You got one for the good guys and for those falling officers that were killed in the line of duty that never got to return fire.
11/14/2009 05:54:00 AM
Well said. As an officer who was also involved in a shooting. I received my award of valor. My partner and other officers who were there but did not shoot did not receive the award. So to hear that someone is receiving this award and not deserving is a tragedy and a slap in the face. Shame on the Sgt who is nominating them.
THERE'S A NEW AWARD COMING SOON FROM 35TH STREET. IT'S THE CLEANEST LOCKER AWARD, AND YOU CAN GET ONE BY KEEPING YOUR LOCKER REALLY CLEAN, JUST LIKE IN GRADE SCHOOL.
THERE SHOULD BE A RIBBON FOR WORKING IN THIS PLACE FOR 25 YRS. AND PUTTING UP WITH ALL THIS DAILY BULLSHIT.
Our Awards System is corrupted just like the rest of the place is. Nothing is legit, it's all based on the Departmental Political Correctness System. Make ALL bosses, their kids, wives, and girlfriends look good, all politically connected losers, politicians family members; etc.etc. Don't give out anything to the unclouted working police, they are just worker-ants in the Ayatollah Daley scheme of things.
In 005 you may get put in for an award, but you may never get the award! I've got 10 Hm's waiting for the Commander's office to sign for the past year.
And 1 DC, I earned several years ago, but still nothing. It's just nice to get a small piece of paper saying Good Work Office!
Anonymous said...
Hey don't hate. I worked in 3 different south side districts and was not put in for many HMs, DCs and life saving awards. Sgt's response " it's part of your job". Or they were plain lazy to help a PO out and type it. So what can I say but woof woof it's part of my job to just answer the radio when called.
11/13/2009 11:22:00 PM
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Or you just never did much or had a PISS attitude that nobody liked....
Most p/o's know many southside guys with numerous awards...
Not hating just being real...
how do you figure t.n. in 017 is a clouted p.o when he is still working a rapid car with 15 years on the job--- you sound like one of those crybaby tac guys who works a six hour day and still can't keep his mouth shut--- barnas is out of control in 017-- he is calling patrol officers into his office to counsel them about lack of activity--- how come your lt. can never make it to work on time but he never drops a slip--- did you counsel him ???? ---
One group of individuals that should be given some-type of recognition is the peer support group,who receive nothing from the police dept. Any time tragedy strikes peer support is there.
From a long time sergeant who has retired : I worked in many southside districts. The HM/DC system is not standarized. A lot depends on the sergeant to start the paperwork, but a lot also rests on the DC and his office staff to move it along. When the DC of 003 ( GS) was promoted to ADS, the next DC found an entire 4 drawer filing cabinet stuffed with paperwork for awards, never forwarded out of his office. Who knows the real reason for it. Other districts were diligent about the awards. Just no standards across the board.
'BTW, the award went in the drawer with the rest of them. Never once has an award ever been worn on my uniform. I refuse to cheapen myself by adorning my uniform with these bullshit citations
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If they are Bullshit..then why do you keep them?????..that is what I thought.'
MAYBE he keeps them to pass on to his children, who may not have any idea as to the risks their father faces every day...I don't wear any of my awards either, but I do pass them on to the kids. They may want to know what their dad did to get them when my time comes. But they'll never grace my uniform while I serve this farce of a PD.
I learned a long time ago that
they don't mean anything when Headquarters wants a chunk of meat out of your ass.
It always helps to have a relative who is a boss to run interference for ya when you step in it;and have the unclouted sap,who is on the paper take the heat or time for you..Majority of the P.O's on the 3rd watch stay far away from this goof and his glory seeking stunts.
a few years back I was working in 018. an old timer had a foot post, this copper had like 30 years on the job and been shot in 015 in the 70s. he's walking his foot post and interrupts a bank robbery. he grabs the bank robber, recovers the gun and the money. we pull up and he says "hey kid, you want this?" i was suspicious at first and said no. he said "seriously kid, I gotta get out of here I got somewhere to be today, you and your partner take it, nice pinch."
he didnt even want his name on the paper. i didnt understand it back then, i understand it now.
A Sgt lied in the narrative for an Award of Valor to take care of a Clouted police officer and 2 female officers that he has been trying to get into the pants of. They never gave it up to him either...Sarge,ya lied and made a false report and have no integrity.
Shameful too the same sarge who will remain nameless is a licensed attorney here in Illinois
I have also learned, and not from the WTA, but just having the privilege of being a Chicago Police Officer, is that there will always be pettiness, jealousy and a spirit of NON-camaraderie among many of the discontents on this job. My hope that we will ever be able to stand as one has faded, much like the blue shirt I wear.
11/13/2009 10:12:00 PM
put a dime in the machine,change it and call EEOC waa waa waa
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