New Life for Aldermanic Petition?
Too often, discussions of Chicago's budget deficit focus on selling civic assets: With the Skyway and parking meters leased, perhaps the water system is next.
This is precisely backward. We have finite infrastructure, so instead of leasing its assets for generations to come, Chicago should cut its liabilities and unload its excess. What does the city have way more of than it needs?
Aldermen. And alderwomen.
Half of the City Council should be eliminated.
Not literally, of course. But if Chicago wants to save tens of millions of dollars a year, one strategy is dead obvious: Go from 50 wards to 25.
This idea is not solely mine: A local blog, Second City Cop, rallied its readers to petition for a non-binding referendum on this topic in the 2010 primary, and its volunteers got more than 11,000 signatures — in about three weeks. And there is a Facebook page dedicated to "Reduce Chicago Alderman," and they don't mean a healthy diet and regular exercise.
Such a change would require the state Legislature to amend Section 21-26 of the Revised Cities and Villages Act of 1941, which set our current number of wards, but it could be done.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
87 Comments:
ATTENTION ALL MEDIA!!!!! This is your GOLD MINE, NO BRAINER, BIG STORY AND GREAT DEED FOR THE CITIZENS OF CHICAGO!!! Come on guys there is no reason for all this political waste with the aldermen. Start looking at their banks and just crunch the simple numbers. We do not need that many ALDERMEN! There has to be one investigatve reporter that Daley hasn't bought yet, to do this.
I read this article Tuesday afternoon. It was in the Monday edition of Crains. Maybe we can also get some downstate legislator to introduce a bill the change the law and see what happens to it. We can get people to just call thier elected official to help push it thru.
Dear SCC,
A great article. That moving and shaking may be about to happen.
Leasing the water is insane.
1. You already paid taxes to build that infrastructure, but this means you will have little control over it.
2. State-to-state diplomatic relations will be superseded by state-to-business relations in another country--a disconnect.
3. Yet the city still must maintain the system. Because its citizens are the ultimate stakeholders in the service.
4. They do this in third world countries where there is no infrastructure, in order to get clean water. They don't do it in places where infrastructure already exists. What guarantees did Chicago get for improvement of infrastructure?
Crazy stuff. Chicago, I wish you very much luck in whatever effort you undertake against it. Including the aldermanic petitions.
Sincerely yours,
Ann T. Hathaway
Excellent idea and post!
Does anyone have the information on the new FOIA law that takes effect on 01Jan10?
Let's disseminate this information and start using it to rid the cancer in Chicago.
The Crook County Commissioners should be cut in half too.
Think of the pension $$$$ that will be saved and the furlough days that we will all be taking to subsidize the King's friends and political hacks.
Lets plug the enema in and rid the waste.
The 2016 Chicago Opposition Organization, No Games would be a HUGE help with this.
Will the Chicago media ignore this too?
Grassroots organizations are feared, this has huge potential.
Miriam Santos for Mayor if David Hoffman doesn't run.
If Marion Barry could get re-elected after a felony conviction Miriam Santos can too.
Has anyone ever looked at the City of Chicago ward maps?
Talk about gerrymandering.
Alderman Bob Fioretti has suggested 25 wards, with 25 Streets and Sanitation bosses. I think he is definitely on the dime with this proposal.
The time is now, the money isn't there to subsidize these Do Nothings.
The mechanism to reduce Alderpersons is through the legislature. I suggest that anyone interested in such an endeavor focus on attempting to have Republican leadership climb on board to sponsor such a bill.
Also, I would suggest attempting to get the media and FOP inolved.
Do we want more of this CORRUPTION?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd9ZbDuT8jA
Obama's ties to Chicago Corruption and Shortshanks explained to a national audience on the Billy Cunnigham Show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv2HAATG-Zk
We must stop the Chicago Corruption Machine before it destroys America.
O.T. but speaking of clout and corruption: HEY SCC, maybe you can get Patrick(fredo)Daley to do a special SCC post on the nightlife in Moscow.......
11th Ward is having a fund raiser in January. I believe the tickets are $150.00 each. Can't wait to get a couple. Oh wait,I already gave the city 24 day.
Also, I would suggest attempting to get the media and FOP inolved.
12/23/2009 02:13:00 AM
What are you smoking? Get the FOP involved? Hello? Where the fart do you think they have been when we were collecting signatures? Didn't and won't hear a peep from them. They are not interested in fighting for our rights or for this city. They are interested in the salaries of their four vice presidents, their pension and their after retirement jobs.
Its makes me sick to think I am paying for FOUR vice presidents. We should throw their ass in the pot and eliminate all the excess spots we are paying so much for. What are we getting. Mike Shields the future is opening up for you. Help!
Gerrymandering???? Thats a big word that far too many people don't know what it means. Gerrymandering is the Chicago way and goes right along with Nepotism (I know Nepotism and Gerrymandering are completely different).
Gerrymandering and Nepotism are what keeps the machine alive in Chicago and Cook County. Both need to be declared completely illegal and punishable by jail time.
U want to fix Chicago. Start with three simple things. 1. Eliminate the 13th, 21st and 23rd police dists
2. Eliminate 28 wards from the city and their alderaman
3. Make the boundaries of the remaining 22 police dists the same as the aldermatic wards.
Things actually are simple. 22 police districts and 22 aldermatic wards. Some police dists have as many as 6 wards inside it. How dumb is it to have alderman calling multiple DCs and DC's having to listen to as many as alder assholes complain.
By the way I'm just a lowly PO who is TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!! Government should work for us and not vice versa!!
All the contempt and hatred of Weis is exactly what the Mayor/Alderscum/Reverends want to distract us from the real enemy!
Need to get Kass on board to get a wider audience. I know that many CFD did not know about the last petition drive but will jump on board.
SCC you have finally found your "special purpose".
Remember that if Aldermen get cut, the support staff should shrink as well.
Off Topic,Looks like Jfed had some problems in his south loop condo.Seems Ms Jfed saw two residents fucking with the janitor of the building.So being the careing liberal,she called the 001st dist to send a car not 911.After no one came to her after waiting several minutes and to her
standerds,she call D.D who called the 001st dit Watch Commander.Omc assined a car who was getting gas,arrived at Jfed apt.The so called offenders where gone.report given.Police told victim when offenders/residents come back,call 911.hours later Jody calls 911,because hes not the police and can't make arrest.Police return to make arrest.Jody is in the hallway looking confused,and upset.What kind of shithole does this guy live in.And if the Bigguy cant handle a simple assault arrest,how in the hell can he handle a police dept.
That is the only problem i see....our local media is in the back pocket of half the city council.They are also just a rubber stamp....hopefully the winds of change are in the air....the feds couldnt stop Daley...how about ordinary citizens you are tired of having absolutely no control over their own city...power to the people....you go scc...lets start this!!
I hate to be a pessimist, but doesn't Daley & co. owe downstate, too?
I signed that petition and will do so again until clean-up and chrunching comes from within, and I'm not talking about mandatory furlough days, that is a Daley bandaid.
I think you may have hit the nail on the head, SCC: the City Council's really just a big stimulus program.
Can we get federal funding? They can give us some of that funny money they print . . . .
DALEY IS ONLY A MAYOR NOT A KING (AS HE BELIEVES)HE HAS NO RIGHT TO SELL OFF THE CITY. THIS IS ONE WAY TO SAVE MONEY AS WELL AS THIS ONCE GREAT CITY.THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS CITY TO HAVE 50 ALDERMEN,FROM NOW ON WE SHOULD ELECT THE MOST COMPETENT 25 PEOPLE TO REPRESENT THE CITY AND LET THEM DO THE BEST JOB THEY CAN.25 HARD WORKING PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE THIS CITY A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE WOULD BE INTERESTING.
Actually the argument could easily be made the rise of technology eliminates the need to have so many "on the ground" (& in your pocket) representatives since the 1941 act. Certainly a call to 311 is time better spent than waiting for in an aldercreature's office.
Now is the time to unite. We know of numerous bloggers and assorted groups that read this blog. We may not always agree on everything,but the common goal should be to downsize the Alderman and remove Daley. Grass roots movements are a place to start. The draft Hoffman for Mayor movement starts now!
...about Robert Cooley. True, he did testify against corrupt politicians and he did write an expose book ( should have said more about Burke). But, don't forget, he once was a Chicago police man who betrayed an oath and was corrupt in his dealings...
Yeah, but unlike 99.99% of local politicians, at least he came clean and had the balls to point fingers where they belong the most
right at Burke and Daley and the rest of the crooked Cook County Crime Machine
If you're enrolled in a political science or a public administration class, and one or all of these books ain't required reading
Clout-Len O Connor
Boss-Mike Royko
The Man Who Beat Clout City-Robert McCrory
and last but not least-When Corruption was King by Cooley, then you're in the wrong programs
and the wrong university.
Maybe your readers can take this thought into the new year and realise that things on the Department may not be so bad.
Merit and favoritism are here, but they are 100% merit and favorites in the private sector. 100%!
Our contract may be in limbo, but we are still covered under the old contract and it is probably a better deal than we will get with the new one. Plus, there is always the hope of retro.
The liberal and biased media is beginning to be brought to task.
A lot of politicians will be voted out because of this run away governmental intrusion. "You need a Carter to get a Regan".
Despite what you read in the papers, more people like us and appreciate the job we do,than don't.
This Nation and it's people have lived through tough times before and we will not fall. Voter apathy led us here, but I think that will change.
Love your family (the home family and the work family). Appreciate what you have and vote the bad ones out of office.
Start this year out with a good thought: Jody is more than halfway through his contract. SCC can you put a ticker countdown at the top? It will give hope to those in need.
While I was honored to provide my mailing address to the circulators of the petitions that garnered 11,187 signatures under such adverse time constraints and no real organizational structure (except SCC), please allow me to make some suggestions.
You may even consider me as a devil's advocate for any future REFORM endeavors.
PRIORITIZE OUR OBJECTIVES in this most politically corrupt of any major city (and county) in the nation. These priorities should be well thought out rather than half-cocked.
In my opinion, the consolidation of wards is on the short list--but not in the top three. Furthermore, based on the numbers of city council members in the four other largest cities in the nation, Chicago would only have about sixteen (16) city council members, not 25 and certainly not fifty.
I believe that the three most effective reforms for both Chicago and CRook County would include:
(1) TERM LIMITS for all elected officials.
(2) A RECALL REFERENDUM INITIATIVE for all elected officials.
(3) WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION WITH AWARDS for government employees. In the compelling interests of taxpayers, government whistleblowers should not only be protected against retaliation by the First Amendment and legislation. Good government would exponentially benefit, even flourish, if a successful whistleblower is awarded a percentage of the dollars saved by exposing government fraud and corruption. Such a monetary award could be perhaps fifteen percent with a cap of 3 million dollars per whistleblower even if the monies saved amounted to billions of taxpayer dollars.
Only then would I consider reductions in the number of ward seats and even more critical: strict enforcement of anti-patronage legislation and transparency in government hiring, promotions and assignments.
With the formidable assist of voter apathy, CLOUT has made Chicago the laughingstock of late night television and the nation in general. We can change this but it will not occur overnight. Perhaps the most repulsive aspect of this is that there actually are Chicagoans who take a perverse pride in "the Chicago Way".
I would be most interested in your comments, criticism and suggestions.
WE MUST EITHER STOP THESE INSANE CHICAGO POLITICIANS BY ANY MEANS, OR FALL ON OUR OWN SWORDS IN THE END, AS THEY BLEED US TO DEATH WITH THEIR TAXES AND IDIOCY.
how about limiting the terms that the a mayor can serve?
FUCK
YOU
DALEY
Ann, America is broke. Broke. We are the world's largest debtor nation in the world (if you add up the amount of debt owed by the federal government, states, business and consumers). We are just like the Roman empire when they were still considered wealthy while selling away their seaports, trading posts and then their aquaducts.
Let's get the ball rolling folks. Let's sit down and meet. People from the police department, streets and sanitation, any other department in this city who are fed up, civic organizations like the no games Chicago, etc... Let's make a list, then contact each other and then meet. Then ORGANIZE. We can do it. YES WE CAN!
I am all in!
In fact, Alderman should be reduced to less than what the City of Los Angles has.
Afterall, L.A. is a lot bigger by population and size, as compared to Chicago!
L.A. has less than 20 Councilman a.k.a. Alderman to do the job.
I vote for less than 20!
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
- Edmund Burke (1729-1797)
While they're at it, perhaps they can abolish the Townships.
At one point, say back in the mid 1800s, these antiquated systems of governance served a purpose.
Now, they're just one more useless taxing body, milking taxpayers and providing a haven for political hacks who can't get elected to other, more meaningful elected positions.
get it on the ballot for 2011.
even if only as an advisory referendum.
when it is affirmed by a huge number of voters, it will grow wings.
it's the best shot at throwing a monkey wrench into the crook county corruption machine.
and a possible catalyst to get the state gop off of their pathetic fat asses.
The City is reducing manpower in all its' separate Departments. There is nothing wrong with reducing the number of Alderman,but in the immortal words of the late Alderman "Paddy" Bauler(1st Ward I think sometime in the 20's or 30's)"This town ain't ready for reform!"
There have been similar successful movements out East. There was a big article in USA Today a few months ago. Some small cities actually did it.
I've said it before and I'LL say it again,why is our indicted Alderman Carothers the head of the Police and Fire Commitee? If we as the Police get Indicted WE GONE !!!
To unpublished asshat who said "if you don't publish this SCC, your just as bad" -
As stated about a million times before, if you dare us to publish something, we delete it automatically. We just can't resist the challenge.
While your criticism of FOP might be valid, no one will ever know your pain because of those silly words.
And if you don't think we publish dozens, even hundreds of criticisms of Markie Mark and the boyz, then you're blind. (notice we said "you're" - not "your" - invest in a spelling course)
Off Topic,Looks like Jfed had some problems in his south loop condo.Seems Ms Jfed saw two residents fucking with the janitor of the building.So being the careing liberal,she called the 001st dist to send a car not 911.After no one came to her after waiting several minutes and to her
standerds,she call D.D who called the 001st dit Watch Commander.Omc assined a car who was getting gas,arrived at Jfed apt.The so called offenders where gone.report given.Police told victim when offenders/residents come back,call 911.hours later Jody calls 911,because hes not the police and can't make arrest.Police return to make arrest.Jody is in the hallway looking confused,and upset.What kind of shithole does this guy live in.And if the Bigguy cant handle a simple assault arrest,how in the hell can he handle a police dept.
12/23/2009 09:28:00 AM
What a CLOWN!!! Isn't he the police? Doesn't he have a radio?
Ok so Chief Ernie Brown has inside on every sex and prostitution party going on in the city. Now get this Magic Don Juan(Head PIMP in Charge) of the notorious Vice Lords fame. Throws a gala event on west Chicago Ave and neither he nor his long time bud Walter Green haven't a clue. The party goes on. This is the second such event that has occurred in recient weeks. So who is in charge of the 015th District, who is in charge of the Vice Unit and Gang Intell. Give us a fuckin breake the4se cock suckers are criminal and taking the Police3 Department and the City for a ride. So much for our IAD put Cozzie in jail Fuck you Eve Fuck You Ernie Fuck you Green. So what is done about it well I'll tell you not a fucking thing.
Let's see here...reduce the aldermen to 25...put their office in each Police District, make it mandatory that they spend at least 1 full 8 hour day there a week so that the taxpaying citizens can lodge their concerns and they can see how understaffed their so called wards are...make em earn their pay. Yea..and I would actively go out and get the votes out for Santos, after what shortshanks did to her...I would wholeheartedly support her rise to the Top. All these alderman do is bitch and complain, with a lot of their bullshit aimed at the Police. Put term limits on the mayor and the aldermen...these people have lost touch with reality from being in Office way too long. If it can work in New York...it can certainly work here too. They can't build their empires on the taxpayers backs any longer.
I dispute the specious arguments of two "anonymous" posters:
"Make the (current) boundaries of...police districts the same as the aldermanic wards." - 8:15 A.M.
Per census data, wards must be of equal population. Compare the disparate populations of small CPD Districts such as 007 and 011 with that of the most populous districts such as 008 and 016.
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"Merit and favoritism are here (CPD), but they are 100% merit and favorites in the private sector." - 11:29 A.M.
First and foremost, the Chicago "definition" of "merit" is nothing more than a euphemism for political clout which is diametrically opposed to Merriam-Webster's defintion. CPD personnel policies are as crooked as a corkscrew.
In the private sector, corporations must answer to stockholders who will not suffer fools and political incompetents running a company into bankruptcy. The CPD does not have a financial "bottom line". I submit that the most valid barometer of CPD success is departmental morale (or the lack thereof). Using that measure, the CPD is a monumental clusterfuck.
I got an email on CPD email. All Special Employment was for January canceled. What gives????
Anonymous Said:...
3. Make the boundaries of the remaining 22 police dists the same as the aldermatic wards.
Things actually are simple. 22 police districts and 22 aldermatic wards. Some police dists have as many as 6 wards inside it. How dumb is it to have alderman calling multiple DCs and DC's having to listen to as many as alder assholes complain....
12/23/2009 08:15:00 AM
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Sure then you would have the Alderman totally in charge of the police district, which is political control. When O.W. Wilson came here as Superintendent, the first thing he did was eliminate nearly half 40 or so police districts so that police districts would be independent Aldermanic, or political, control. It worked too.
I remember Cline having a problem as supt,what did he do held them for police and signed complaints that is what a real POLICE boss does! Oh yea and Cline called it in on his RADIO!
Are you Fu##in kiddin me. Area Four Detectives are beefing about having to work 1st watch...on a temporary basis...those on bid...to days have to work a short stint on mids....get a clue come work a beat car in 8 or 10 on mids......Hey BG YOU>>>>should be ashamed of yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!
What we really need to do is petition to prevent the Daley Crime Family from selling off more city assets.
Can you image at every city event, the Air & Water Show and any place where Shortshanks appeared, any ribbon cutting, any Dummycrat rally, and there were people greeting everyone with a petition that said, "Considering what happened with the Chicago's Parking Meters, we the residents and voters of the City of Chicago petition to prohibit the sale or leasing of the Chicago Fire Department, Chicago Department of Sanitation (Garbage Collection), Department of Sewers and the Water Distribution Department.”
Who was the guy who helped us derail the 'Limpics. I think his name was Tom Tresser. Maybe this should be his new crusade.
Stay safe, and stop the Daley going out of business sale before it is too late.
I thought the deadline passed?????
None of the civilians are da police even tho they think they are and when it comes to do any po-lice action, they melt in the background, but they wanna carry the star and gun.
Selling off the city's assets; skyway, parking meters,midway ect, is nothing but a way to privitize public resorces and put them in the control of corporations. This will take away our say as citizens and taxpayers over how these resources are allocated and how much we pay for them. It's already happening with the parking meters. The water department is potentially one of the most valuable resources the city owns. Along with Wisconsin,Michigan,Indiana and Ohio we are sitting on one of the largest bodies of fresh water in the world. With ground aquafurs drying up or becoming contaminated water is becoming a valuable commodity. Any corporation who could get their greasy hands on our pumping stations and purification plant could stand to make a fortune and hold this city hostage. STOP THE SALE OF CITY RESOURCES BY DALEY AND THE CITY COUNCIL!! any profit made will be short term. The misery will be long term.
I said it once and I say it to as many people as I can. Daley has to go for things to get any better. He is behind everything. My whole family will be voting for none of the above when it comes to Daley and Co.
What a CLOWN!!! Isn't he the police? Doesn't he have a radio?
12/23/2009 04:59:00 PM
No, just a Blackberry and it wasn't working.
WORDS TO LIVE BY said...
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
- Edmund Burke (1729-1797)
12/23/2009 01:57:00 PM
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MORE words to live by said...
All that is necessary for my family and me to triumph and grow rich is for residents of chicago to do nothing.
-Ed Burke (1943- )
*** Please do not give up your contractual rights! ***
Dear fellow officers, recently (2 weeks ago) in Area 4 Commander Ricco and the HGS LT decided they would “help” the lower seniority detectives who cried about going to 1st watch. After no one volunteered to staff the 1st watch and with no takers young detectives began getting phone calls from Area 4 Sgts. The Sgts. Suggested each detective consider weighing their options: You can do 3 periods on midnights or 13 periods-take your pick. As you can imagine all the management detectives went along with the 3 period offer. The story should end there right? NOT!
After everyone was given 2nd and 3rd watch (only 7 detectives were officially assigned to 1st watch) and the Area 4 were furloughs were picked a detective that received a 2nd watch management spot decided he no longer wanted to do his 3 periods and called the FOP to beef. Well now all the other chumps that are on days and afternoons by management are threatening to back out on the agreement because why should they do it if this guy is refusing to do his time.
The moral of the story is you are represented by the FOP with a CONTRACT. You open up a huge can of worms when you decide to cut deals with the devil. Management is NOT your friend and you are screwing the union and your fellow officers when you agree to these deals. While I will be the first person to say the Commander and the Lt. had their hearts in the right place and they truly were trying to make everyone happy, doing that is not possible.
I suggest every officer in patrol monitor what happens in Area 4. Perhaps they will set the ground work for your district or Area to break the contract AND GET AWAY WITH IT TOO!
Cooley was a rat junkie that wouldve sold his mother for a broad and a bag of blow. After stealing and taking bribes for most of his life the noose started tighetening around him and he suddenly developed morals. Then he decided to give up all those that put him where he was and who he took money from. So if your looking for a savior go look elsewhere because this guys a piece of shit.
12/23/2009 09:50:00 I agree never give up rights, management like this si another reason everything is so fucked up! We have younger officers in my unit unhappy with mids,we all did it kids now it is your turn STFU!
Anonymous said...
Ok so Chief Ernie Brown has inside on every sex and prostitution party going on in the city. Now get this Magic Don Juan(Head PIMP in Charge) of the notorious Vice Lords fame. Throws a gala event on west Chicago Ave and neither he nor his long time bud Walter Green haven't a clue. The party goes on. This is the second such event that has occurred in recient weeks. So who is in charge of the 015th District, who is in charge of the Vice Unit and Gang Intell. Give us a fuckin breake the4se cock suckers are criminal and taking the Police3 Department and the City for a ride. So much for our IAD put Cozzie in jail Fuck you Eve Fuck You Ernie Fuck you Green. So what is done about it well I'll tell you not a fucking thing.
12/23/2009 05:14:00 PM
Another couple of jags with lots of beefs still doing what they do the shicago way? I WILL NEVER FORGET WHAT WAS DONE TO WILLIAM "BILL" COZZI, A FRIEND WAS AT THAT PRISON VISITED A FRIEND OF HIS,HE TOLD ME COZZI CANNOT EVEN GO INTO THE TV ROOM AS THREATS TO KILL HIM! Let him go free hey BARRY fuck the bullshit scandalous health bill FREE COZZI NOW!
"So if your looking for a savior go look elsewhere because this guys a piece of shit.
12/23/2009 09:52:00 PM"
No different then the scumbags he comingled be they Attorneys or those in the Black Robes.A shining example of those who operate within the Hallowed Halls of Crook County Justice System. Nothing has Changed.
I think the most important issue in Chicago that needs to be addressed is legislation that establishes how many signatures are needed on a petition(s) to get a referendum and/or candidates on a ballot. The enormous amount of signatures required by the current system gives an overwhelming advantage to incumbents/monied interests and against any reform measures reaching the electorate. You mean to tell me that 11,000+ signatures are not enough to get a non-binding ADVISORY referendum on the ballot??? That's ludicrous. If you change that legislation, you will begin to see more ideas presented to the electorate. More potential candidates will take a shot at running against the machine if they don't have to spend all kinds of money and time just getting signatures. We are in dire need of reform here.
To the P.O.s from the 23rd Ward.
Another look at your asshat alderman.
From the SouthownStar.
What a piece of work
To read the full story, click here:
http://www.southtownstar.com/news/mcqueary/1921311,120609mcqueary.article
9:52 PM
SOUR GRAPES! And just who might you be, "anonymous"? An old 1st Ward ex-con? Why should anyone listen to your scurrilous statement concerning the redemption of Bob Cooley?
I've known Bob Cooley for over forty years since we were roommates at Marquette University, Milwaukee.
I also met his parents, now deceased, when the family lived at 8406 S. Blackstone. Both parents could qualify for sainthood. Make no mistake, Bob was a corrupt lawyer and an asshole for many years.
Today, we could use at least a hundred reformed Bob Cooley moles to put Daley and his crime family in prison.
By the way, the feds didn't have shit on Bobby when he walked into the office of the U.S. Attorney. On his deathbed, Bob's dad, a retired CPD detective, played a role in Bob's decision to turn his sordid life around. When you want to nail rat politicians and judges, vestal virgins don't get the job done.
To this day, he is ashamed of his role in the acquittal of the steroid thug that put then 15th Dist. officer C.T. (now a retired Capt.) in the hospital. Classy lady. Ironically, both are on my private eMail list.
Identify yourself or remain an anonymous coward and shut the fuck up.
"Cooley was a rat junkie that wouldve sold his mother for a broad and a bag of blow. After stealing and taking bribes for most of his life the noose started tighetening around him and he suddenly developed morals. Then he decided to give up all those that put him where he was and who he took money from. So if your looking for a savior go look elsewhere because this guys a piece of shit.
12/23/2009 09:52:00 PM"
who would know more about the other rats in the sewer than a fellow sewer rat?
Anonymous said...
The City is reducing manpower in all its' separate Departments. There is nothing wrong with reducing the number of Alderman,but in the immortal words of the late Alderman "Paddy" Bauler(1st Ward I think sometime in the 20's or 30's)"This town ain't ready for reform!"
12/23/2009 04:06:00 PM
The quote actually was from the mid 1950's (1955?) and was uttered on election night after a reform candidate was defeated with a vote of near 100% going to the machine dandidate.
Bauler was resplendent in top hat and feeling the effects of the election victory and many beers when he jumped up on a table and crowed over and over "Chicago ain't ready for reform yet."
If we think it is all corrupt now, imagine the thievery that went on to pull off a vote of 100% for the machine candidate as recently as the 1950's.
Lasting change will only happen very slowly, if at all. The sheep voters are very likely to return daley to office in Feb 2011 if he chooses to run.
How can anyone stop him? By posting on this blog? Who would win? Dorothy Brown? Some libertarian moron? What decent candidate in his right mind can commit up to 5 million dollars or more for a bruising primary fight knowing the history of the daley crime family and stolen elections?
The sad truth is, if daley wants to be re-elected, he will be re-elected.
how about limiting the terms that the a mayor can serve?
I agree with this across the board, not only for the President of the United States, but with all elected offices, nationally and at state and local levels.
12/23/2009 09:50:00 PM
You are absolutely right. God forbid a solution to a shitty problem could have been worked out amongst the players. Then your dumb ass that did not want to play because "My contract protects ME," because I am the biggest asshole (well maybe third string)everyone knows...."Fuck you and heres to me"
This would be largely symbolic if enacted. While 25 aldermen and their staff would be saved the other city workers in a ward would still be on the payroll. And the alderman that would be left would be more powerful and would soon demand higher salaries due to their "increased responsibilities."
I'd like to see it happen but really, it might be easier for a mayor to get 13 votes for a majority than it is now to get 26 votes.
Rather than simply eliminate half the aldermen, how about getting decent people in there in the first place? Same with Mayor.
Of course if a good candidate for Mayor were to surface and get into the race daley would get shills to jump in to siphon off votes.
What is needed is to get rid of daley some other way, indictment, trial and conviction are how I prefer, and then get a good candidate in there with a good sized war chest and plenty of backing.
Term limits, definitely.
Thats Bishop Magic Don Juan to you fucknuts.
Cooley wore the wire, dont hand me that happy horseshit about his father and his conscience and all that. What a fucking bunch of softballs you are if you believe that horseshit. Cooley's name doesn't even belong in the same sentence as Chicago Police.
Area 4...bottom line: Bid and management officers have the same rights to a watch 80-20. Just because your management it does not mean they can move you...per contract, if 10 guys are needed on 1st watch you decide how many guys from 2 and 3rd watch you want (5 and 5), and it goes by seniority...PERIOD. If you're management on a watch, THATS YOU WATCH, they cannot move you unless they follow contract....volunteers, then seniority.
I agree with John Northen. The most important ways to clean up this cesspool is term limits and recall.
I also like rewards for whistle blowers that save taxpayer money.
Anonymous said...
Need to get Kass on board to get a wider audience. I know that many CFD did not know about the last petition drive but will jump on board.
12/23/2009 08:33:00 AM
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The CFD knew about this petition drive. But thier Ex Board is like the FOP and didn't want to make the Mayor & Alderscum made. There was 1 member of the CFD that probably turned in more petitions then any single PO. Northern knows who he is.
So you mean too tell me that the Sgt and Lts. in OCD are dare b-buz they are smart
In 1983 and 1987, I recall "lots" of White northwest and southwest side support for Daley and gerrymandering. Were/Are lessons being learned from this?
>>>Anonymous said...
12/23/2009 09:50:00 I agree never give up rights, management like this si another reason everything is so fucked up! We have younger officers in my unit unhappy with mids,we all did it kids now it is your turn STFU!
12/23/2009 10:22:00 PM<<<
How about starting all NEW people
is a ROTATING WATCH system, like we did when I came on the job. But do it right, 90 days not 28. In 20 or so years everyone would be rotating. Or, let's have a REAL SHIFT DIFFERENTAL pay for working 1st and 3rd Watch.
Anonymous said...
>>>Anonymous said...
12/23/2009 09:50:00 I agree never give up rights, management like this si another reason everything is so fucked up! We have younger officers in my unit unhappy with mids,we all did it kids now it is your turn STFU!
12/23/2009 10:22:00 PM<<<
How about starting all NEW people
is a ROTATING WATCH system, like we did when I came on the job. But do it right, 90 days not 28. In 20 or so years everyone would be rotating. Or, let's have a REAL SHIFT DIFFERENTAL pay for working 1st and 3rd Watch.
12/25/2009 06:11:00 AM
Now that would be a great idea all the enw kids could get experience on all watches!
Rather than simply eliminate half the aldermen, how about getting decent people in there in the first place? Same with Mayor.
What decent people?
Where from?
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
No, its got to be
less government , i.e., aldermen pref 25 aldermen OR LESS
and term limits for every stinking elected position,
or it will be the same old sordid mess for generations to come.
Cooley was a rat junkie ...if your looking for a savior go look elsewhere because this guys a piece of shit.
Yeah, that's all true, but anybody that helps f--k up the Crook County Machine can't be ALL bad:)
Today, we could use at least a hundred reformed Bob Cooley moles to put Daley and his crime family in prison.
MY POINT EXACTLY!!! :)
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