Tuesday, December 22, 2009

Six Shot In Englewood

  • Six people leaving an Englewood nightclub were wounded during a Sunday night gang-related shooting on the South Side.

    Police said a group of adults leaving a nightclub were traveling in a van in the 6500 block of South Damen Avenue when another vehicle approached and somebody inside opened fire, striking six adults in the van.
The Sun Times article has maybe six comments total.

Now how about this one?
  • An off-duty Lockport police officer was charged tonight with reckless homicide and drunk-driving charges in connection with a three-car crash that killed an immigrant from Vietnam who was driving home on the Stevenson Expressway from his second job.
The BreakingNews article has almost 60 comments and the Sun Times version has six pages of comments. Guess which direction they are all headed? Even we had to delete half-a-dozen comments that attempted to blame the Chicago Police Department for this latest DUI incident.

We have no use for anyone who drinks, drives and kills. Long time readers are aware of articles we've written berating those who make bad decisions. But we believe everyone is entitled to due process, even the police.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Coogan is a graduate of St. Mary’s College and Loyola Law School and spent six years working for then-County Board President John Stroger Stroger Stroger Stroger before joining IGA in 1998
You can take that to the bank.

12/22/2009 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But wait, the corrupt madman now wants to put free internet access in these "underserved neighborhoods." Paid for by whom? Why city workers of course, who are being forced to take up to 24 unpaid days off next year!

And this "free" internet access is being provided only to legally documented US Citizens, right? By The Vanecko & Davis Internet Company most likely.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-chicago-digital-dividedec22,0,202618.story

12/22/2009 12:36:00 AM  
Blogger Too Many Dummies said...

I feel sorry for the Lockport copper and the deceased Vietnamese guy. Nobdy wins in these cases except for the lawyers.

12/22/2009 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is not your father's police department anymore. Don't drink and drive. Get a cab a hotel room walk it off or quit the police and become a garbageman.

12/22/2009 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The cop haters are always looking for a reason to post somewhere.

I suggest ignoring it much of the time. If you wanted to be well liked you should have become a fireman.

Here's something real easy to for anyone who has a half a brain to understand.

Each and every individual cop is not responsible for whatever some other cop does.

If some uniformed idiot pulls his weapon in a snowball fight in Philly I'm not too blame.

If some suburban cop gets in an alcohol related accident I'm not to blame.

If a member of the CPD gets into a barroom brawl I'm not to blame.

If a cop sells out to organized crime I'm not to blame.

Now if I did anything of those things then I would be to blame.

There are theoretically 12,000+ Chicago Police. Most of whom are average, decent folks just trying to get through the day.

In that group of 12,000+ are a good (or bad) number of assholes, addicts, drunks,lazy, corrupt,unnecessarily brutal shitbags. Some of whom we call exempts. One of whom we may call "Superintendent". He certainly qualified for the term "asshole".

I don't want to be judged for anything I didn't do.

I try and sometimes fail to judge people as individuals.

I expect the same attempt from others regarding me.

As for drinking and driving I have no tolerance for it. I'd arrest my own brother if I caught him doing it.

I've done my share of stupid shit in my life, but I never drove drunk.

I've walked drunk.

I've bicycled drunk.

I've woken up next to some ugly women after a night of drinking and tried to gnaw my arm off to escape undetected, but I ain't NEVER driven drunk.

This public service announcement brought to you by someone who needs a drink before he goes to sleep tonight because he just remembered some of his youthful "exploits".

12/22/2009 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The suburban DUI is a tragedy all the way around. Prayers to all parties involved in that horrible incident.

12/22/2009 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous The Grim Reaper said...

It's that time of the year again: THE GHOUL POOL! 25 x 25 = 625 possible combinations.

Last homicide of 2009 in 011.
First homicide of 2010 in 007.

12/22/2009 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...

What's also not surprising about the six assholes shot in Englewood is that not one of the bastards died as a result of multiple GSW's.

I guess when you have no stress or responsibilities, being shot full of holes isn't that big a deal. Get patched up for free, courtesy of the taxpayers, then go on disability/SSI and spend your remaining years living off the fat of the land even more than you were prior to being shot.

12/22/2009 12:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how come nothing being posted about the new commander of 003? some captain from 006? anyone have info on him?

12/22/2009 03:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well SCC I have to disagree with your statement on everyone deserves due process. Your site certainly does not afford the coppers that are featured on your site that. Perfect example was the SOS debacle in which two of the officers that were lambasted by hundreds of posts were later exonerated of all charges. I didnt read one rebuttal or apology.

12/22/2009 03:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know that this is way off subject, but something I believe worthy of mention.

I asked that all who read this, do the following.

PLEASE, keep a watchful eye over your brothers and sisters during this holiday season. Although this is a season in which we celebrate the life of our savior, it can also be a very dark time for those of us who have lost our friends, loved ones, and may feel lonely, abandoned, and/or hopeless.

Mind their business:

If you notice a change in a co-worker/friend/loved one's behavior, don't be afraid to ask them how they are doing. Ask particular questions such as, "I see you look great, but how is your heart/spirit?" Don't allow them to be alone, and get them the help that they need.

We must be pillars of strength for our FAMILY now, and always.

God bless you all, and have a blessed holiday season.

Ofc. Clay

12/22/2009 03:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re EOD, he has sgts. checking you with a red pen if you were late, without even telling you, then writing you up. If EOD is such a great boss, why have so many people bailed from the unit? And how come everybody coming in is on a phone call?

12/22/2009 05:23:00 AM  
Anonymous WTF?! said...

I didn't know where to post this but I thought you and your readers would find it interesting. You may have seen it in the SunTimes.

December 22, 2009
• A Kelly High School teacher was fired after a hearing officer did not buy her claims that she killed her estranged husband in self-defense in 2007. Although the teacher said she shot her husband three times in the chest during a heated altercation in which she feared for her life, Sullivan said his investigation determined the shooting was not in self-defense, and a hearing officer agreed. The teacher has not been criminally charged.

Can we hire the investigators to work for the CPD or ASA? Maybe turn their investigation over to the detective Division? Superintendent, are you reading this? We know you've re-opened other cases and taken another look, where people have ended up going to jail (Cozzi). If they can figure it out why can't the police? Who do we have working in our public schools anyway? Maybe she was teaching the students a thing or two on how to commit murder, the right way. No wonder the CPS is in such shambles.

12/22/2009 06:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ain't nuthin' to comment on brother. They just be partyin', that's all, you know.

12/22/2009 06:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Six people leaving an Englewood nightclub were wounded during a Sunday night gang-related shooting on the South Side."
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So what?

12/22/2009 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ot-why didnt we hear about this??

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/12/cops-warn-of-man-who-tried-to-lure-12-year-old-into-van.html

12/22/2009 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SIX SHOT? SO SAD. TOO BAD.

Now move along!

12/22/2009 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well SCC I have to disagree with your statement on everyone deserves due process. Your site certainly does not afford the coppers that are featured on your site that. Perfect example was the SOS debacle in which two of the officers that were lambasted by hundreds of posts were later exonerated of all charges. I didnt read one rebuttal or apology.


You're a forking idiot - a blog isn't a court of law.

12/22/2009 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was stunned, but probably shouldn't have been, by the comments made by the deceased's family.

One girl said you could 'maybe make an exception' for those NOT the police who drink and drive, but not for the police.

What?

12/22/2009 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ot-why didnt we hear about this??

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/12/cops-warn-of-man-who-tried-to-lure-12-year-old-into-van.html

12/22/2009 07:59:00 AM
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Because it happens way more often than you'd like to think.

12/22/2009 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Well SCC I have to disagree with your statement on everyone deserves due process. Your site certainly does not afford the coppers that are featured on your site that. Perfect example was the SOS debacle in which two of the officers that were lambasted by hundreds of posts were later exonerated of all charges. I didnt read one rebuttal or apology.


You're a forking idiot - a blog isn't a court of law.

12/22/2009 08:32:00 AM


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Plus, those were only state charges that were dropped.

I have to wonder if the FEDS are going to charge them federally.

12/22/2009 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I went to high school with Eddie (Lockport P.O.) and he's a good guy, played good baseball, and he just wanted to be a cop.
Please don't drink and drive!

12/22/2009 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12/22/2009 03:35:00 AM

I bet they were completely innocent. Asshat.

12/22/2009 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous NineteenDavid said...

Anonymous The Grim Reaper said...

It's that time of the year again: THE GHOUL POOL! 25 x 25 = 625 possible combinations.

Last homicide of 2009 in 011.
First homicide of 2010 in 007.

12/22/2009 12:53:00 AM

Last 2009: 007

First 2010: 004

12/22/2009 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Plus, those were only state charges that were dropped.

I have to wonder if the FEDS are going to charge them federally.

12/22/2009 08:44:00 AM


I have to wonder if the FEDS, are going to charge you federally.

See how dumb your statement is.

12/22/2009 09:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO

12/22/2009 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The MSF will fix the problems in 007....!

12/22/2009 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would never defend the sun times but... They had 8 pages of horribly racist comments before they were all deleted on the Englewood story.

12/22/2009 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i tell these idiots that run their mouths that im not '' you guys''. they approach you angry, waving a parking ticket..''you guys'' wrote me this ticket. they approch you at parties ''you guys'' wrote me a speeder.'' you guys'' locked up my shithead brother. ''you guys'' beat up that little female bartender.''you guys'' got drunk and killed those guys on the expressway. i tell them ''you guys'' have shot at me. ''you guys'' have bit a piece of my thumb off.'' you guys'' have attacked me in a drunkin or doped out haze! they look...and say hey that wasnt me. i say exactly and tell them how stupid they look.

12/22/2009 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
ot-why didnt we hear about this??

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/12/cops-warn-of-man-who-tried-to-lure-12-year-old-into-van.html

12/22/2009 07:59:00 AM
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But you did hear about this. It was released to the media.

12/22/2009 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

This is not your father's police department anymore. Don't drink and drive. Get a cab a hotel room walk it off or quit the police and become a garbageman.

12/22/2009 12:42:00 AM

It would be of no matter. As far as the media is concerned, you will forever be the police, or the ex-police, or an ex-Chicago police officer.

They love to hate us and the hate continues long after the job is over, regardless of the circumstances surrounding the end of your service.

But, you are absolutely correct, the answer is quite simple. If you drink, don't drive. Ever. It is a no brainer.

12/22/2009 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I was stunned, but probably shouldn't have been, by the comments made by the deceased's family.

One girl said you could 'maybe make an exception' for those NOT the police who drink and drive, but not for the police.

What?

12/22/2009 08:35:00 AM

I know the victim's family is in pain, but the one young woman responsible for the aforementioned comment, is also not happy with the length of time between the incident and the DUI's court appearance.

The DUI was in court within 36 hours of the incident, and with a broken pelvis. The ISP did a heckuva job in putting it all together, under very trying circumstances.

The family should put a muzzle on the one family spokeswoman who cannot resist the camera and talk her nonesense. Her dislike of the police is more evident than her sorrow for losing the deceased family member.

12/22/2009 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a copper, but I know you guys face a hard job- telling someone 'No', and making it stick, when no one else ever told them. Are you surprised that they act like they don't understand?
Naturally, then, like children they will whine and blame you for doing what is really in their own best interests.
I'm a teacher. I see it a lot, kids who can't accept that two-word letter and whine about it. You see them as children in adult costumes.
Ignore the dumshts who have no clue and be safe, you are appreciated. There's always going to be someone who's unhappy. As long as you get home safe to the family after making this society a little safer, that's all that matters.

12/22/2009 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT - this just in

Daley's ex-guy from streets & San, Al Sanchez, has been granted a new trial because prosecuter's failed to notify the jury that one of their "witnesses" was a street gang member.

Let's hope he decided to flip on Richie!

12/22/2009 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how come nothing being posted about the new commander of 003? some captain from 006? anyone have info on him?

Fletcher, good guy 003 will like him....

12/22/2009 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re EOD, he has sgts. checking you with a red pen if you were late, without even telling you, then writing you up. If EOD is such a great boss, why have so many people bailed from the unit? And how come everybody coming in is on a phone call?

Are you serious? it's a unit, everyone is a phone call, including you, quit beefing and do your job.....

12/22/2009 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One girl said you could 'maybe make an exception' for those NOT the police who drink and drive, but not for the police.


People think we are robots with no feelings, problems, emotions etc. they fail to realize that we come from the same city and neighborhoods as everyone else, have as many problems, if not more, than everyone else, perform a extremely stressful job ( i know we signed up for it) and don't seek help when we have problems coping; some turn to the bottle, some turn to drugs, some take their own life. We are human and make mistakes life everyone else...

Please keep an eye on your co-workers and loved-ones this holiday season....

12/22/2009 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
how come nothing being posted about the new commander of 003? some captain from 006? anyone have info on him?

12/22/2009 03:00:00 AM

He is a very nice guy and very smart, but was never the real police. Does that surprise you? Much better for 003 than the crumpster and will back up his people, I wish him luck.

12/22/2009 12:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't see what his occupation has to do with it. Would the public feel better if he was a cps teacher, politician, lawyer or a nurse? Irrelevant people.

12/22/2009 01:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well SCC I have to disagree with your statement on everyone deserves due process. Your site certainly does not afford the coppers that are featured on your site that. Perfect example was the SOS debacle in which two of the officers that were lambasted by hundreds of posts were later exonerated of all charges. I didnt read one rebuttal or apology.

12/22/2009 03:35:00 AM


Just because the State's Attny's office was completely incompetent doesn't make the allegation untrue. I'll apologize when they are proven innocent, not when they get a free pass due to stupidity.

12/22/2009 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Grim reaper's bookie said...

It's that time of the year again: THE GHOUL POOL! 25 x 25 = 625 possible combinations.

Last homicide of 2009 in 011.
First homicide of 2010 in 007.

12/22/2009 12:53:00 AM
I'm going for the wild card again for first homicide in 2010. Drum roll please. 012 th district .is that bar on lake st still open? Last homicide of the year will be in 017. Or should I say A5

12/22/2009 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another 6 medical students huh? Why is that area so bad? SARCASM!

12/22/2009 02:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well SCC I have to disagree with your statement on everyone deserves due process. Your site certainly does not afford the coppers that are featured on your site that. Perfect example was the SOS debacle in which two of the officers that were lambasted by hundreds of posts were later exonerated of all charges. I didnt read one rebuttal or apology.

12/22/2009 03:35:00 AM

Let's see...Already 5 SOS officers pled guilty in State court...plus possibly more to come in Federal court. And, since when does Not Guilty or having the charges dropped equal exonerated?

12/22/2009 02:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey scc
I was watching the new last night wish I could remember which station but I would of thought it was a CPD officer also just by the way they were reporting it. They never said it was CPD but they never said it wasnt either. They didnt mention it was a lockport copper until the very end when they said the lockport police chief had no comment until the investigation was done.

12/22/2009 02:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've woken up next to some ugly women after a night of drinking and tried to gnaw my arm off to escape undetected, but I ain't NEVER driven drunk.

You're a fucking liar.

Unless you don't OWN a car.

If you drink enough to sleep with ugly women then I GUARANTEE that you have driven LEGALLY drunk.

Get over yourself.

What do you do, run back to your squad car when you witness another P.O. doing what needs to be done because you are only accountable for your actions?

Fucking Douche Bag.

12/22/2009 04:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And how come everybody coming in is on a phone call?

Who else is gonna get to that unit except someone with a phone call.

A bunch of Detectives hiding out so they don't have to actually do Detective work for a living.

Hey Petersen. If you're not gonna make any NEW Dicks send back the old ones hiding out in these useless units.

12/22/2009 04:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought this might be a good place or thread for me (a civilan)to commend two terrific officers from the 17th district 3rd watch who responded to a 911 call from my home last week. Although I needed an ambulance, they were actually there first and were so helpful and kind to me when I was so scared I'd not only gone in labor, but broke my back when I fell down a flight of stairs. They even helped corral and calm my tiny kids who just terrified.

I'm very endebted to Officers Navez & Haritos!

12/22/2009 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12/22/2009 12:47:00 AM to the poster who is not to blame for anything. I agree with everything you said except for the uniformed officer at the snowball fight. The uniformed officer was the responding officer to the call of the off duty M1, man with a gun, who was driving his H2 Hummer that was hit with a snowbal. People called the police not knowing the off duty p/o was a cop. If I was wearing a uniform and resonded to a man with a gun call, I too would have my gun out and ready until I found out what was going on....but I agree with everything else...we are not to blame!

12/22/2009 09:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

ot-why didnt we hear about this??

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/12/cops-warn-of-man-who-tried-to-lure-12-year-old-into-van.html

12/22/2009 07:59:00 AM
Because everyone in News Affairs was busy notifying everyone, i.e. revs, aldermenses, and dey entourage about the 14 y/o missings shakin' up wit' dey 25 y/o boyfriend...and dat ain't no hibbity jibbity...mmmm hhmmmm

12/22/2009 09:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alcohol related traffic offenses are equal opportunity. I've had priests, doctors, cops, judges, teachers and even an ASA (and the 911 caller was an off duty Evanston PD commander).

My most memorable, though, is a gang banger named Will. I think I personally dealt with every member of his family. Will got tanked up, drove without a license and wrapped it around a tree killing his brother. He came into court and immediately demanded to plead guilty, crying that he killed his brother. I have seldom seem remorse like this.

My mother was severely crippled and her husband killed by a drunk driver in broad daylight (4:30 p.m.). He left his trucking company, made a liquid lunch sales call and was en route to his factory when his Jag crossed the median -- 75mph in a 45 zone at impact.

I've been the designated driver at many a cop party and have no problem with professional courtesy as long as either the public safety isn't threatened or the badge isn't being disgraced. Drive drunk and you will get no sympathy here.

12/22/2009 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how come nothing being posted about the new commander of 003? some captain from 006? anyone have info on him?

worked for him in 701, and dealt with him in 006 as the capt. during arrest. straight shooter, and a great boss.. 003 moral should be out the roof soon!!

12/22/2009 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous the Virginian said...

Regarding the incident in DC, I've been watching it develop in the media and internet from the beginning.

The off-duty detective has almost 30 years on, and has already been judged by chief Lanier.

The detective is guilty, more than anything, of having a complex and poor judgement. 300 yuppies in a gentrifying neighborhood throwing very soft snow at your car and each other does not warrant pulling your piece on the crowd.

The uniform CLEARLY was right to approach with his weapon drawn. He is walking up in a strong snowstorm, in a crowd, on a large uniformed male pointed-to by numerous people in the crowd as the problem, and on a man-with-gun call of course. There is absolutely no way the uniform officer did anything wrong.

The off-duty dick on the other hand probably could use a reprimand for poor judgement. That crowd is exactly the crowd that most DC police have wished they could run into for the last 30 years.

And, on another note, DC has only had 1 homicide so far in December. Down 30% year over year to date. I have no idea why murders are dropping, but its happening everywhere!

12/22/2009 11:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how come nothing being posted about the new commander of 003? some captain from 006? anyone have info on him?

worked for him in 701, and dealt with him in 006 as the capt. during arrest. straight shooter, and a great boss.. 003 moral should be out the roof soon!!
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Another highly decorated member worthy of 4 (four) merit promotions. Was a CAPS Lt. a year ago, then Capt. Those 9 honorables took 23 years to get....

12/23/2009 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Six Shot In Englewood"
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This was such a regular occurrence on the west side that I remember one stretch of W. Chicago Ave, 3600-3800 West, that looked like a Special Olympics wheelchair race in the summer.

There were so many regular and motorized wheelchairs filled with teenage and 20 something M/1's who were obvious GSW victims. There was a small fortune in guvment' bought wheelchairs rolling around and all the wounded players up and down the avenue out for a roll doing their thing.

The insane absurdity of that scene is so typical of the west side.

12/23/2009 03:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There were so many regular and motorized wheelchairs filled with teenage and 20 something M/1's.....
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12/23/2009 03:12:00 AM

With awesome rims, no doubt.

12/23/2009 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you need to make the pool more interesting, you must pick the beat not only the district, thats the way we did it when I was a Det.

12/23/2009 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last 2009: 004
First 2010: 014

And, if a police district is not specifically taken, it goes to the taken district with the closest geographical point to the incident, as determined by travel distance on city streets, no alleys, to that point from the address of occurrence.

In the need of a tie-breaker, distance will be measured from the closest corner of the property at the address of occurrence to the closest geographical point in the taken district, thereby mandating, if circumstances are such, that distance could be measured from different corners of the property at the address of occurrence, depending on the identity of the taken districts. District beat boundaries determine the closest geographical point.

12/23/2009 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's see...Already 5 SOS officers pled guilty in State court...plus possibly more to come in Federal court. And, since when does Not Guilty or having the charges dropped equal exonerated?

12/22/2009 02:14:00 PM
IF YOU THINK THOSE THAT WERE EXONERATED WEREN'T SINGING, I'VE GOT SOME SWAMPLAND IN THE MOJAVE FOR SALE.

12/23/2009 06:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

new commander of 003 good person ,clout or not won't fuck with you ,so don't fuck with him . will help you if he can if you fuck up . still not far removed from blue shirts.surprized they took a chance on such a down to earth guy. go chris .. 007 ranger L train

12/23/2009 07:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Start the New year right! Join the NRA @ NRA.COM. Give Daley and every other liberal puke indigestion!

12/24/2009 02:46:00 PM  

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