Boss Revolt?
Has one or more been pushed too far?
- Kudos to Joe Patterso A/1 Dep Chief for telling Masters and the screaming skull why crime in Area 1 is up ("they are unemployed and have nothing to lose. Its been this way for 40+ years in Englewood. Why should it change now? The only difference is the lack of police presence in these areas due to manpower."). Supposedly happened at a CAR meeting Wednesday for Area 1. The screaming skull went berzerk, and none other than Masters had to explain to Jody why Pterson was so upset.
The truth hurts. And the truth is we're on the verge of a disaster here. Midnights across the city are running at 30% undermanned. We actually had someone from a west side district e-mail us the sheets from the first 35 days of the year and they were operating down 3 to 5 cars per night for 32 of those days. That's not just insane - that's a recipe for disaster.
J-Failure has already lost the rank and file. Did everyone hear about the 16 March meeting at West Side Tech? An e-mailer tells us the total number of officers who showed up was three. Three officers from a Department that numbers nearly 10,000. We verified it through an exempt who has written to us in the past.
Now we hear that a Deputy Chief is finally admitting the manpower shortage is affecting policing? We can only say, "It's about fucking time."
J-Failure has already lost the rank and file. Did everyone hear about the 16 March meeting at West Side Tech? An e-mailer tells us the total number of officers who showed up was three. Three officers from a Department that numbers nearly 10,000. We verified it through an exempt who has written to us in the past.
Now we hear that a Deputy Chief is finally admitting the manpower shortage is affecting policing? We can only say, "It's about fucking time."
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
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Bye Bye gun and sat teams!
cmdr kupczyk... congrats on your promotion to a/1 deputy chief!
It's all silly, just silly twitter!
good job boss. finally someone with some balls tells it like it is. otherwise these "leaders" sit around and stoke themselves at these meetings
There is much more coming SCC...
Congrats to a boss that can tell it like it really is.
I hope that nobody gets killed or injured due to this manpower crisis again.
If true, kudos to Joe Patterson. We've got to start telling it like it is. Stop being "yes men."
The TRUTH IS ALSO FUCKN OBVIOUS! And has been for a long time. Why would the screaming skull get pissed? Because that boss didn't tell and write lies and made up stats like everyone else? I have heard many a boss say how dumb, fake, and kiss ass the CAR meetings are. A complete waste of time! One thing I have noticed over the past year or so is the number of bosses from Lt.'s on up that openly talk how about how screwed up everything is now and how hated the brass are at 35th street. In the past it was rare to hear that type of talk. What a sad joke this department has become. Lets hope for better days.
Joe Patterson is the real fucking police, and he is a stand up guy too.
This shit was building up, and you know what, it needed to be said.
Joe is 100% correct!
Now what?
What do you do now? Joe knows that these people are savages, it is not a race thing, it is a human thing. You're either a human being, or you're a fucking savage.
And the savages need to be dealt with, just like they were back in the day when Joe was kicking ass in 9.
Jody, you are SO over your head. As a military man, you should have some honor and just resign now. 15 people shot, WTF is that?
Leave Jody and take your crew of fucking idiots and trolls with you.
..."The truth hurts. And the truth is we're on the verge of a disaster here. Midnights across the city are running at 30% undermanned. We actually had someone from a west side district e-mail us the sheets from the first 35 days of the year and they were operating down 3 to 5 cars per night for 32 of those days. That's not just insane - that's a recipe for disaster."...
Last I heard, the Dept as a whole (or hole, whichever you prefer) is short an AREA worth of Sworn, minus (who'd of guessed) Exempts. Yep, that’s right FIVE Dist’s worth of Police Officers, Sgts, Lt’s, and close to Captains as well! Also, an AREA worth of Violent Crimes / Property Crimes/ Youth, or HGS / RBT / SVU Detectives Sgts, and Lt’s.
Sad state of affairs we are in…. I have a funny feeling, its going to be a LOOOONNNNNGGGGG hot summer.
One warm day and the city went bezerk,no news conferences when the shit hits the fan, but a copper being proactive (probably the only one) gets stuck in the ass by J-Chump because he used "verbal ghetto" on some trafic beefers. This is where you work, people. Again, If you have a partner sit there and stare out the window like you are on the el. If you are 99 drive like you are visiting detroit. 20 and out and a relo and a finger.
Truth is Treason in an Empire of LIES
Where are the news media, FOP, PBPA???
Huge story here and the Chicago CONTROLLED media is refusing to cover it.
All Hail Lord King Daley!!!
Well, Joey P, it was nice working with you while you wore a gold star...Maybe they need a newly demoted Lt. back in 007.
Being blunt about Masters's bullshit always seems to mean some exempt's career will be launched on the down escalator. And Joey P
is a black exempt in traditionally
reserved 'white' post...it won't be too long before Masters corrects THAT too. That seems to be the track record of WEISel/Masters.
When will a KMA boss step up and go to the media?
People are going to die because of this shortage.
Most all exempts are Judas's and have sold out for the GOLD star and a few extra shekels.
The writing is on the wall for all these BS units. CPD needs bodies in uniforms in beat cars! Get your uniforms ready , you are going to need them!
It was actually on Thursday at the CAR meeting...I woke up from my daydreaming when the Deputy started to tell it "like it is". I couldn't get my pen out fast enough to write down everything he said, but basically he stated that the shooting wasn't going to stop until the people that live there change. Shooting each other is just the way of life there and we (the police)can not stop them. IT WAS GREAT!
I hope this doesn't feck him over. Jp is a great guy to work for and a policemans policeman. Manpower is down all over and there is also no movement for older guys and they're burning out. It's a lose, lose situation until more police are hired.
From what I have seen Patterson has always been about the police, well except for brining in that anal Sgt who works for him that kicks back every little thing, not because they're wrong but it seems he just does it because he can.
No shit theres a manpower shortage! Go on the clear system and go to daily A&A's. Punch in your district and just look and see how many people are detailed out to these glorified units! Bring these people back and get these districts staffed properly before someone gets hurt unnecessarily!
Jfed is now Jfailure 2!!! HA HA HA!!!!
Why on Earth would any Beat Copper or anyone else show up at these sham meetings? You have the choice of kissing ass, or Beefing about the zillions of things screwed up about the people running this job. Complain and you are guarranteed to wind up assigned to guarding the parking lot in 02!
http://www.wgntv.com/news/wgntv-officer-ran-recorded-march19,0,7549533.story
Joe Patterson is a good man, a good boss and was an excellent police officer when that was his job. Good for him. Big balls.
The Chicago Police Department is on "Full Tilt".
WE have ALL been pushed too far.
It's the nature of OUR job, and always was. I come from a Police Family that for generations has experienced alcoholism,suicide,an Officer killed in the line of duty, and divorce. I have been The Police for 26 Years, and am a boss. NO I DO NOT drink the Kool-Ade and don't try to pass it on to the troops(Bullshit Sensors would soon sound). What I do try to pass on is Officer Safety and Sound Police Tactics that will get you home after your tour, to those that matter.
Plain and simple, Get Us More Coppers, better equipment, and promote those who can lead, rather than those who have to defend their merit promotions with non-action Mr. Mayor.
Revolver Police
the manpower shortage is just one of the reasons that has affected policing but their are many others also contributing--- no contract for three years, officers getting thrown under the bus, and a change in the culture of the police department.....
U Go Joe. Ur a great Boss.
I got ur back
TURN OUT THE LIGHTS.......
Here's a better one. Per personnel order 2010-007. Ruth wedster is hereby reassigned to Capt special functions group. Capt Special Functions Group????? Since when is there a Capt In unit 141??? It's not like the districts aren't short captains. They send lieuts all over The city to cover for Capt shortages but they have to fill that "spot" that never existed before. Oh and did Jody open it up for all Capts to apply.... Yea, I didn't think so. Unfucking believable!
we're past the point of the ship being sunk...we're now approaching the core of the earth.
Expect more uprising from minority exempts after JFed was publicly humiliated after the Lopez decision. JFed is also a lame duck and the front runner for the Sup spot becomes the person who is the most anti-Weis.
Call in the National Guard. Oh, wait, they're short too...
FUCK PETERSON!
Are they gonna demote him now?
10-1 in 007 last night. rocks and bottles thrown at the police. buses re-routed and it took 50+ coppers almost a half hour to shut 63rd Street down.
I will support Lt. Patterson no matter where Banjo Boy sends him.
Its about time. Watch and see, the Superintendent is going to call a meeting now about being a team player, strategies, how you have to dedicate more time away from your families to this job,how you should take the 20% pay cut and just be happy he gave you the right to wear a gold star on the uniform you earned (he didn't) and ask you to write a report that outlines more bullshit! They are going to kill each other no matter what! The only thing that will help is more police being on the street, no rhyme no reason, just the luck of the draw! If we go to the hot areas, they go to the not so hot areas, they kill each other and then we chase the crime and move our resources. This occurs at least 50 times a year and we look like stupid idiots!
Until this economy gets better, until they stop the bullshit SSI check for the drug addicts who keep the drug dealing gang banger in business, until they make gas reasonable, until places like the city and state actually pay and provide their employees with a descent living and benefits, until we get rid of this Federal agent and his buddies who are costing the city over a million dollars a year by being on our pay roll, until we get rid of stupid ass Command members and units like Commander Kevin Ryan, Commander Jim O'Grady, Commander Leo Schmidtz, Deputy Chief Nick Roti, Chief Ernest Brown, Chief Zavala (WTF), Chief Juan Rivera, ALL OF THE FEDS and Asst. Supt. (I housed a felon with guns and drugs - I didn't know though and I am 3rd in Command for the Chicago Police Dept.)Cuello, we will never get anywhere. Now think about why I chose those. Yep, I am fully aware!
it's silly I tell you, just silly!
Eliminate the specialized units. Put everyone in uniform in Patrol!
He will soon be replaced by a suckhole. M.T. the former head of SOS and training academy used to tell his underlings. If I give you an order never tell me It can't be done, just do it. So those of us who were wise just pretended like we were trying even though we could careless. At the end of the day its the bosses world, do as little as possible retire early and with your sanity.
Excellent!! It's about time somebody stood up and told the truth.
025 1st watch has too many 99 unit cars. You know what is even more stupid than that? Some of the officers who work 99. Sometimes dispatch gives an assignment that requires a two man unit (disturbance, noise disturbance, etc...) and the idiot replies "that is ok, I will advise".
Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.
Well, on a brighter note and sure to bolster morale and manpower the city intends on hiring 50 new recruits on April 16th.
You heard it right a grand total of 50!
It's easy when you are a short-timer to tell it like it is.
It is very risky to do so when the likes of J-Fed and the midget hold your fate in their hands.
listened to a chase this morning in 22 about 0130 hrs where the officer said his piece of shit car could not keep up with the offenders, and he got away wtf
oh, and um . . .
J-Fraud, Masters, and the crew of the Frauds office went to Driving School yesterday at the Academy.
Funny though, NONE of them actually drove the Tahoe's. They had the Driving School staff officers do that while Fraud's staff rode shotgun!
So, they really did not learn how to drive the Tahoe's!
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Bunch of balles pussies!
Wow welcome to the killing fields!
This has been going on for years! The storm has finally come to ahead!
FUCK YOU! J-FED, PETERSON AND MASTERS!
Kudos! To the boss who had the "Cajones" to tell the truth to these idiots in charge, instead of "smoke and mirrors'!
No manpower! No cars and old cars! Computers that don't work, still other computers over 10 years old!
New cameras, valued at almost $10,000 a piece including labor and kickbacks, put in cars with over 100,000 miles on them [that's real fucking smart]!
No promotions! What does the real police have to look forward to?!
The list goes on and on!
Then you want us to get out there with all this hanging over our fucking heads and fight the jagoffs and a police hating public and danger our careers and livelihood! I think not!
The only thing Joe didn't get quite right was that Englewood has always been shit. My Grandfather, born in 1902, grew up there and lived there through WW2. He was a tough, white neighborhood full of bohunks and hillbillies. After the war, all the whites moved out and it has been all black since the mid 50s. But, at least they had cops pounding beats and a lid was sort of kept on.
Joe is right in saying today's ghetto dweller doesn't have much to lose. They don't have squat, their leaders are windbags and they realize fearless leader (Obama) is inept and pushing their cause back 50 years.
They are making this department very unsafe.
We have a manpower issue? Since when?
Must be nice to have that huge paycheck and not have to do a thing.
I have always had a great respect for D/C Patterson as he is one of the few chosen that's actually been a working police officer--and after reading his stand-up commentary to the powers-that-be, I have more respect for him then ever. Manpower needs are, and continue to be, the main culpret to this on-going problem, and time after time we as the police will continue to do as asked and carry the load no matter how big the load may get, however there simply aren't enough people to carry the load anymore. I have been waiting for someone (a boss) to finally stand up and tell "the emperor he has no clothes on!" Hats off to you Deputy Patterson.
FIRST WATCH IN OO7 USUALLY HAS 4 TO 5 ONE MAN CARS NIGHTLY AND THE WAGON IS DOUBLING AS A BEAT CAR!EVERY TIME WE NEED A WAGON THEY R EITHER DOWN ON A JOB OR OUT OF TH DISTRICT ON A TRANSPORT!THIS IS SO DANGEROUS!WE NEED EVERY CAR MANNED AND TWO WAGONS UP AT A MINIMUM IN OO7 ON MIDNIGHTS!WE REALLY NEED MORE CARS AND MORE PEOPLE !!!
The truly sad thing about this Department is the fact that some of the brass used to be well respected and they have all sold their souls to Jody for a few more pension dollars.......I would rather walk away from this job with the respect of my peers than have my retirement party in a phone booth......P.S. Masters, you are not a cop and never will be and the sun does not shine inside 35th Street so take the sunglasses off....toolbag
every district should send the number of down cars and 1 man units on the 1st and 3rd watch to SCC maybe SCC could forward information to Carol Marin , John Kass , Walter Jacobson
Between the unpaid furlough days and all the other bullshit they have to deal with, I think many of the bosses just dont give a fuck any more and could care less about going back to their civil service rank unless they are special K who would go back to being a sergeant.
015th Dist, more po's on Tact then on 1st watch. Its really a safey issue for us.
The skull really needs to get psyched bad. Does this guy scream at his family this way? There is absolutely NOTHING on this job to get worked up over to the point of flying off the handle like he does on a regular basis.
As many have said on this job, "It's all bullshit kid."
20 Yrs ago I raised my right hand and thought I could try,in my own little way to change the world. I still do, but feel completely abandoned by our (and previous) administrations. If given the essential tools,manpower and motivation the false numbers that stain the daily rags actually could be attained. It's not rocket science to simply change peoples choice between doing right/wrong it is just being consistent. Unfortunately that is a word not in J-Feds vocabulary. If anything, be there for each other, and back each other up. Boys and Girls we are on our own and things have degenerated to an unprecedented low.
I came on the job with Joe Patterson and worked in 009 as P.O.'s and in my mind Joe is one of the most upstanding guys around! I've run into him frequently on details, wakes & funerals and he doesn't forget where he came from. He'll always make it a point to say "hi" and ask how I'm doing, which I know doesn't seem like much, but compared to the exempt blowhards on this job, Joe is a breath of fresh air. Joe is a sharp guy and is a true gentleman. He is one boss who can turn the morale around. If this "revolt" story is true, it doesn't surprise me one bit!
The detectives division 200+ Short. Huge retirement this year. There has not been a class in Two and a half years.
What revolt? They have a nearly unlimited supply of blue shirts to throw under the bus and deflect any criticism from themselves.
All I say boys and girls stay safe. The mayor put this job in the toilet. Its all on the mayor, remember that.
The crime scenes are looking like some one dropped a bomb. Be carefull all across the nation police officers are getting hurt.
I think that if Shortshanks decides to run again, or appoints a successor to the throne, you will see Jughead fired, (released from his contract) and possibly an insider gets the job. Insider or not come election time we may see some hiring and some new equipment. The new Superinetendent from whereever would be chosen for political loyalty not for success in crime fighting.
So unless we Register and Vote... unless we get everyone we know to Register and Vote... we can only expect more of the same ...and worse.
Finally somebody with some balls. What about the rest of the turds at the top?
Thank God we have the GEU! Hey Cmdr. LS, here's what your super-cops are doing. The other day Area 3 GEU under the direction of Lt TW and led by Sgt KS arrested 3 bangers in 023 for gang loitering. They posted it all over the e-mails to districts and bosses as a major success story because one of the guys was an Area Top 10. Here's a clue - if that's the best GEU can do, even in a place like 023, then GET BACK TO THE DISTRICTS AND HUMP A BEAT CAR WHERE YOU'LL AS LEAST BE USEFUL!
PS - That goes for the TRU unit also.
Well guess who won't be invited on the Reviewing Stand at the St. Jude March.
Speaking of which, is there any possibility it will be put back on Michigan Avenue so the whole world can see it.
Everyone who comes to that should wear a yellow ribbon to saw our support for Bill Cozzi and distain for J-Fed and his Fed Rat-Pack.
Why on Earth would any Beat Copper or anyone else show up at these sham meetings? You have the choice of kissing ass, or Beefing about the zillions of things screwed up about the people running this job. Complain and you are guarranteed to wind up assigned to guarding the parking lot in 02!
hey a CAR meeting is a meeting where the bosses talk about crime pretty much bosses bend over and take it in the ass from J-balls. its the new name for the DOC meeting its not one of the meetings your thinking of
it's closing time.
Anonymous said...
Between the unpaid furlough days and all the other bullshit they have to deal with, I think many of the bosses just dont give a fuck any more and could care less about going back to their civil service rank unless they are special K who would go back to being a sergeant.
3/20/2010 09:43:00 AM
Special K would just go back to guarding the mayor!
"Here's a better one. Per personnel order 2010-007. Ruth wedster is hereby reassigned to Capt special functions group. Capt Special Functions Group????? Since when is there a Capt In unit 141??? It's not like the districts aren't short captains. They send lieuts all over The city to cover for Capt shortages but they have to fill that "spot" that never existed before. Oh and did Jody open it up for all Capts to apply.... Yea, I didn't think so. Unfucking believable!"
Thats funny. We're short watch commanders everywhere and we assign a captain to an inside unit, which now makes three captains assigned inside. But we continue to pay Lt's to work out of grade to cover the watch commanders positions that these captains should be working. Now we have inside Lt's that are going to be filling in as watch commanders in the district on a regular basis all summer beginning next period. There is a couple of things wrong with this scenario. First, I really don't want an inside do nothing Lt coming to my district and fucking things up out of ignorance. Second, if I am correct, Lt's working out of grade are subject to Shakman, which means a pool of qualified Lt's needs to established and the spots filled from that pool on the basis of seniority. If I am working midnites as a field Lt in 005, if there is a watch commanders spot open on the same watch in 016, I am part of the eligible pool to work the out of grade. However, because they don't want to pay me for moving me out of the area, they will assign a HQ fill in to work the out of grade, in violation af Shakman. This department will never learn. Hey Mikey boy, I will hold you accountable in front of the Shakman monitor because your policy group was informed of this yet did nothing. Enjoy the press!
What we need is a man of action, a man of integrity, and policeman's policeman. We need Harley Schinker.
smoking joe, down goes masters,down goes masters
trufe hurts huh?
I counted. 1st watch in 023 had 12 officers on the street. This for a district with a population of at least 1MILLION people. Its only a matter of time before disater strikes! SCC put up a fax # where we can send you the daily sheets on watches. Not only will you see people listed who are supposed to be on the street but aren't but the manned cars will be quite upsetting!
***The skull really needs to get psyched bad. Does this guy scream at his family this way? There is absolutely NOTHING on this job to get worked up over to the point of flying off the handle like he does on a regular basis.***
ROID RAGE!!!
As fast as Capt Ruth was sent to special functions she was immediately "detailed" to unit 120 bureau of admin svcs. Let's play hide the ruth
dear scc..i was at this meeting..the skull praised patterson at the meeting for telling it like it is. anyone that attended can verify this.
clear out HQs.m the desk crews, CAPS office and the commanders and exempts staff and put these officers to work on the streets where they belong
The only 'Special Function" Ruthie excels at is holding musicians hostage on their private planes until they ante up tickets for her and her posse!
I wonder if he will get dumped for telling the truth like Eric Washington did.
There will be a major self-imposed exodus of exempts this year. Many are saying that they've had enough and that they have no intention of parting with 24 days of pay to Shortshanks and WEISel/Masters.
WHO would want to be promoted the exempt ranks
of our shitty dept. today?
I WOULDNT PAT THAT BOSS ON HIS BACK TOO HARD!
IF HE SAID HE CANT FIX SOMETHING DO U REALLY WANT SOMEONE LIKE THAT IN CHARGE OF THE DISTRICT U LIVE IN.
OR IS HE ANOTHER ONE OF THE INFAMOUS TOUGH GUYS RETIRING CLUB.
MUTINY IS REARING IT UGLY HEAD.
FURLOUGH DAYS FOR THE GOLDSTARS AND BEING TREATED LIKE A RECRUIT AINT WORKING.
J-FED BETTER GET HIS SHIT TOGETHER IF HE WANT THAT SILLY CONTRACT RENEWED AT 300K AGAIN
I EXPECT A DRASTIC PAYCUT!!!
DONT WORRY THE MAYOR WILL SAY J-FED IS LOYAL AND EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE PAY-CUT.
EVEN DANA STARKS WASNT THIS MUCH OF A STROKE.
"They don't have squat, their leaders are windbags and they realize fearless leader (Obama) is inept and pushing their cause back 50 years.
3/20/2010 08:35:00 AM"
Yeah blame a guy in office for 14 months for 50yrs of Societal Ills& Social Program malfeasance.
Why don't you blame him for the Depression altho he wasnt born until 30 years later.
Call in the National Guard. Oh, wait, they're short too...
3/20/2010 06:32:00 AM
NO THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE EAST MAKING A DIFFERENCE, WHILE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER IS UP FOR GRABS
The truth hurts. Not are we dangerously short police, the no balls, back stabbing brass don't want you to be the police. They don't want proactive. They want warm and fuzzy. They want crime down, but don't want you doing the things involved to lower it. 1st and 3rd watches across the city are way understaffed with cars down and one man cars being utilized. 2nd watch cars are either detailed to bullshit so called dangerous blocks and the other half are detailed to all the schools in the mornings and at dismissal. There are constant RAP's in all the district and people biching why the police take 45 minutes to an hour to show up on 1A jobs. No cars available. There are no cars available to be used and coppers sitting an hour waiting to get a car after roll call. The cars we do have are crap and falling apart. The computers are useless and either broken or out of range all the time. /the radios are useless. They are either all static on both ends and the batteries never last a full watch. The city doesn't give a shit about these issues and the top brass don't have the balls or knowledge to complain. As long as the top brass are in their little bubble world, fuck everything else. This job used to be one of the greatest jobs. You enjoyed coming to work. The bosses cared, there was enough help and everyone stuck together. The bosses covered your ass and stood beside you. Now that is all gone. Sinking ship, hell. We have suck and are sitting at the deepest bottom of the ocean. It will take years to fix this department, if it ever can be fixed. Just answer your calls and watch each others back for safety. Other than that, fuck this department and City Hall. They don't give a shit about you. Why should we. As long as we have City Hall pulling the strings and J-Fed and his band of idiots dancing, nothing will change. Nobody gives a shit about you or your safety. The few bosses who do know what is going on speak out and just get dumped for someone who will play the game.
" Short Sgts, Lt’s, and close to Captains"
That's easily remedied, have them sign out mover books& tasers make them available to answer calls. They're whiteshirts so they shouldnt have any problem handling any call 99.
Along the same lines, it's not just Englewood. I'm a northsider, driving home last week came upon several
m/1's with shirts off tounting and yelling i'll put your mother"@'",.s to sleep, etc. Only when I got under the viaduct did I see who they were confronting, it was the police. There were several squad cars a wagon, 10-12 cops. I'm not going to judge it but I will say, PLEASE be careful. Mutts come in all shapes and sizes, they inhabit the north, south and west sides of this once great city. They are becoming bolder and have absolutely no respect for the police. They know as well as we do, who is running this department and have no problem confronting the police. It's sickening. Way back when, if you pulled a stunt like that, you could bet that the wagon would be filled with arrestees and the area would be saturated with police for the next few weeks. Today, nobody goes to jail, we don't have enough bodies to man beat cars much less saturate an area. Safety issue, you bet. I hope all you merit big shots are enjoying your reign of destruction. You will go down in CPD history as having contributed to the destruction of a once proud department. Sleep well and enjoy your big payday, hope it was worth it. Glad to see that at least one of you has a backbone.
I don't know you Joe, but way to go! You sound like you are one hell of a guy.
I was there at the meeting and the screaming skull did not "lose his mind". The feds looked confused byt everyone with any common sense just nodded, including Peterson.
Anonymous said...
When will a KMA boss step up and go to the media?
People are going to die because of this shortage.
3/20/2010 12:32:00 AM
I was hoping it would have been M. McCottor. But instead he went on to work for the Chicago machine making big $$$$ while collecting his gold braid pension. I like the guy, but I guess he just can't get enough money. His pension alone is more than our salaries.
08:35:00 AM. don't know what englewood your "grandfather" grew up in. the one i grew up in was heaven on earth. lived there for 30 years. 25 years after WWII we moved out. can only remember 1 murder. it went bad overnight. we were the last ones left on the block. englewood went from heaven to hell in months. Nice try saying englewood was always shit, thats an old liberal trick. don't try to soften the blow dealt by reality to ease your pathetic white guilt. A black exempt told the truth, why can't you?
Real mothafakin poooooooooooooolice!
"Chicago Police, given not earned" Can someone start printing these new banners?
This summer will be HELL on the South and West sides.
Anonymous said...
No shit theres a manpower shortage! Go on the clear system and go to daily A&A's. Punch in your district and just look and see how many people are detailed out to these glorified units! Bring these people back and get these districts staffed properly before someone gets hurt unnecessarily!
3/20/2010 12:55:00 AM
OK kids - I'll say it. How many think that Alex might not have been shot if four officers had been involved in the street interviews? Back-up being present and the extra sets of eyes can, and do, make the differance between life and death.
Admit it - you wondered about this at the time. Years from now, his child will too.
listened to a chase this morning in 22 about 0130 hrs where the officer said his piece of shit car could not keep up with the offenders, and he got away wtf
3/20/2010 08:28:00 AM
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I hope he didn't say 'piece of shit car' on the air or the powers that be will pillory him instead of addressing the real problem, which is, of course, the PIECE OF SHIT CAR.
But it's always better to attack the symptom than cure the disease.
FIRST WATCH IN OO7 USUALLY HAS 4 TO 5 ONE MAN CARS NIGHTLY AND THE WAGON IS DOUBLING AS A BEAT CAR!EVERY TIME WE NEED A WAGON THEY R EITHER DOWN ON A JOB OR OUT OF TH DISTRICT ON A TRANSPORT!THIS IS SO DANGEROUS!WE NEED EVERY CAR MANNED AND TWO WAGONS UP AT A MINIMUM IN OO7 ON MIDNIGHTS!WE REALLY NEED MORE CARS AND MORE PEOPLE !!!
3/20/2010 09:13:00 AM
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Substitute 003 and 014 for 007 and it's the same thing. Desperate times, people, and the 50 they're hiring next month won't even cover the bunch that's retiring 15 April, much less those retiring the REST of the year.
Let the crime go up, everytime you work or make a good arrest the bad guy just beefs and here comes IPRA to pull all of the in car camera footage and look to jam up a copper. WHY??????? why do anything it just makes no sense. I have a mortgage to pay, bills to pay, and I actually have a personal life unlike these souless ass kissing house mouses that work at 35 Michigan. Screw this Dept, it is not a career it is simply a job so just collect your check and go home safe to your family and loved ones.
You can tell with these exempts...absolutely none of them like Weis & Co., but they gotta do the dance, and most just do it.
Don't know Patterson on a personal level, but in informal conversations somehow knew that this bs just wasn't flying with him.
Good Job Boss!
Anonymous said...
Why on Earth would any Beat Copper or anyone else show up at these sham meetings? You have the choice of kissing ass, or Beefing about the zillions of things screwed up about the people running this job. Complain and you are guarranteed to wind up assigned to guarding the parking lot in 02!
3/20/2010 01:19:00 AM
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Because those of us who actually give a shit....actually give a shit. And then there are the people like you who are just happy keeping the "noise" afloat.
Thats fine to send the media the info regarding how understaffed we are, but once we do be prepared to never get a day off again, yes we are understaffed but we also allow people comp time etc daily, that will surely end once this really gets out so decide how you want to play it and be prepared to be in it for the long haul.
What is the purpose of the CAR meeting? Jfed and Mike Masters only started going when they realized the Mayor was sending people from the hall to watch. Now they have invited the Aldermen! How fucked up and lame is that? Why does this department keep mixing policing with political hacks? What the fuck are they doing, the Aldermen, to combat crime besides bitching about it? Where are the jobs they are responsible for bringing. What are they doing with the Menu Money? When are they going to be held accountable. They always invite all the Exempts to their meetings to take the focus off of them and the fucking Mayor and the Superitendent just keep right on allowing this. Hell, at least 15 Exempts are in the room!
What is even more humiliating is the fact that District Commanders of like 3,4,5,6, and 7 have to sit there and listen at how Brust, the Superintendent and anyone else that wants to join in, brag about how great of a job the Commanders in Area 3 are doing and other places like, 001, 017, 18, 019, 020etc. They don't have any fucking crime! They have all the time in the world to chit chat with the troops, the Aldermen, the business owners or whoever! Why don't you take those same worthless Commanders, especially Commander Lucy Moy, and send them to Command 3,4,5,6, or 7. Start there. Let’s see how well they do. Let’s just do a swap for about 6 months with the Command Staff. Hell, they have no union, so that is legitimate. That also gives the Commanders that work 100 hours a week well deserved fucking break. How much more can you do to them and still pay them the same as you pay Lucy fucking Moy?
While you are at it, switch the Deputy Chiefs of Area 1 and Area 2 with Area 3 and CCG. They can use a breather also. Make the other elite Exempts actually work for a fucking check!
You wanted some new innovative ideas. Lets try this one!
listened to a chase this morning in 22 about 0130 hrs where the officer said his piece of shit car could not keep up with the offenders, and he got away wtf
He's not supposed to be chasing anyone anyway. Did he forget what department this is?
Mauer said it best, he said the more you allow the savages to run rampant in their own communities, they get better and more creative; they then branch off into our neighborhoods. Do you really think that the savages in 003, 004, 006, 011, 015 or 025 are just committing crime in their own communities? Are you a fucking idiot? No, they are coming to areas in 016, 022, 008, 009 and 002, where we live, and preying on OUR community. The more you pass by and do not stop the crime, you turn your head and look the other way that is the day YOU are one step closer from being a victim. If it is not you it may be your wife, your kids or your parents. Think about that as you say Fuck CPD and this fucked up City. I don't like it either, but it is the truth. The last crew that was in 022 breaking in homes was from 003! The crew that is in 016 is from 025.
Just keep it up!!! Jfed and Mike Masters live in downtown Chicago with doormen! Remember that! They don't even trust the savages from staying away. They made sure they were protected along with their family. Funny thing is we don't make $300,000.00 a year!
NOTHING WILL CHANGE BECAUSE OF THIS
Hey Mayor time to fix the Police Department again. This time get it right and put a real Policeman in charge of the troops.
Give Dan Dugan a shot at the title and see what he can do. It certainly would be an improvement over what we have now.
Take Mike Masters and stick him next to Huberman in the schools. You need two wonder boys running those shit holes to begin with.
Worked for Joe in 640. Not a bad guy despite having gone from merit sergeant to deputy chief in about eight years! Now back to business: Petersons legacy in the "D" will always be the unsolved murders of two off-duty policmen. Just tell that to a real marine! He's just not as smart as he thinks he is. Now that the great social engineering experiment with merit promotions has been turned on its ass can we start promoting people in rank order from the lists again, like real soon?
I don't think it was a matter of Patterson being pushed too far...I think all of the exempts have had enough of the bullshit coming down from the Hall through the useless twosome, WEISel/Masters, and being facilitated by the Asst. Supts. and the Deputy Supts., especially Dan 'the axe' Dugan. I think you're going to see more of these 'outbursts' at these CAR and MARS meetings until the WEISel's time is up.
Hopefully, by next February, Shortshanks will be on the way out too, which means Daley can take Masters little ass with him.
Manpower needs ....I agree hire alot more police but also empty out the front offices and neigborhood relation offices....I mean 5 to do the work of 2........Give me a break...Tact secretaries,,,,,WTF is that all about...Someone check how many PO's the deputy chiefs have in their offices....come on people get those able bodies back to the streets...and quit putting all of those inside officers in civilian drsss...I mean wtf is that all about...
But with all the shortage of police officers they will keep the 25 officers, one in each district, who are assigned to Community Policing and are paid $75,000 a year to INSTALL CHILD SEATS IN CARS!!! But then they are the clouted ones, untouchable, like Ald. Ed Burke's bodyguards.
I saw the blonde 4yr wonder from the Policy Group on tv. She apparently started the "Female Tactical Association". I've seen her work the street for a couple years while in TRU. I saw no tactical skills displayed that would make her capable of training others, besides she only has approximatley 4yrs otj. 2yrs have been in the Policy Group. I wonder who is funding this group with weapons, ammo, range time, etc?
Speaking of shitty bosses, who is fat, balding, dumber than a box of rocks, and got dumped a year or two ago, but not far enough? Yes CDOT Byrne saved his ass. He's responsible for bringing back a new version of the DOC meeting now called the weekly CAR meeting. You guessed it, Steve Caluris. What a better way to make yourself look good than by having other exempts answer up while you answer to nobody. I've never met a person with a lower IQ and more one way than this buffoon.
025 1st watch has too many 99 unit cars. You know what is even more stupid than that? Some of the officers who work 99. Sometimes dispatch gives an assignment that requires a two man unit (disturbance, noise disturbance, etc...) and the idiot replies "that is ok, I will advise".
Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.
AfuckingMEN!!!! Also those who say, "if I need help I will call", WTF!!!!If you have to call for help you are already in trouble...
tell it like it is
jfed area 1 and every area deputy chief has to many police officers assigned to their office
start there mr j fed 1 deputy chief gets 1 police officer and
no sergeants
J-Failure GGGGGGREAT
I got news for you. during my 27 years the Department has been putting up phony beats for years. they post them on the sheets yet their working inside. Nothing new lies nothing but lies.
Patterson is an arrogant hater. The only people he is concerned with are himself and himself.
Sgts, Lt’s, and close to Captains as well
Worthless they do nothing. You need one Sgt per watch one LT per dist and NO Captains. The real workers are the Blue shirts, and they get shit on from every direction.
When will a KMA boss step up and go to the media?
Because Mr softball, they leave here and receive other big money jobs. Hillard, Mauer, Cline, they all want theirs
(disturbance, noise disturbance, etc...) and the idiot replies "that is ok, I will advise".
Sometimes we are our own worst enemies.
I disagree! To many of you guys are dangerous nuts, I would rather work 99 then have some softball on my job who WILL get me hurt. insofar as they have never learned to be the real police. I would like to go home in one piece.
listened to a chase this morning in 22 about 0130 hrs where the officer said his piece of shit car could not keep up with the offenders, and he got away wtf
3/20/2010 08:28:00 AM
Nothing wrong with the car. This is Fleet helping the Police Department eliminate chases.
Reduces the liability, ya know.
Ot Mayor dick wants everyone to count on their household census form their college kids that live out of town. That's a no-no, but mayor dick doesn't care. Mayor dick, fuck you.
I under counted my household, my young kids were added to their out of state grandparents form. How you like me now!
ALL UNDER J-FED'S WATCH!
1. The Penelope Trahanas domestic/EEOC
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/03/chicago-police-commander-arrested-for-harassment.html
2. The Bea Cuello search warrant at her dope house
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/02/weapons-drugs-seized-at-police-officials-home.html
3. The Frank Gross Pittsburgh photos
http://www.theagitator.com/2009/10/19/chicago-cops-vacation-in-pittsburgh-snap-souvenier-photo/
4. The Lucio Martinez "liquor License" for Humboldt Park fest
5. Ruth Wedster & crew-The "gaggle" caught in the Midway airport/Wrigley concerts.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/Billy_Joel_Elton_John_police_fan
6. Lilly Crump-Hale aka Burger Queen- Security Breech at District w/ 14 year old boy/airport gun incident
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/01/14-year-old-boy-impersonates-chicago-cop.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-grand-crossing-district-web,0,3985568.story
7. Ernie Brown-Submitting a false resume then promoted by to Chief OCD
http://www.thechicagosyndicate.com/2008/11/simple-resume-error-costs-chicagos.html
8. Leo Schmitz- Sold gym then it closes down a couple of weeks later and when asked who he sold it to he states he doesn't know and can't remember.
(Southtown Star paper)
9. Mike Mealer's mental breakdown caught on tape in 017.
10.James O'Grady on film at negative search warrant causing city ten million in law suit.
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/motorcycle.club.raid.2.746338.html
11. Removal of Chief of IAD Tina Skahill.
http://www.chicagopolice.org/MailingList/PressAttachment/PromtionNewsRelease.pdf
12. Removal/demotion of 011th District Commander Eric Washington
13. Removal/demotion of John Franklin
14. Removal/demotion of Sal Avila
15. Removal/demotion of Sandra Day
16. Removal/demotion of Eli Vulgaris
17. Removal/demotion of Steve Caluris
18. Removal/demotion of Ed O'Donnell
19. Removal of Matt Tobias from academy
20. Removal/forced retirement of Mike Chasen
Too tired to go on...
>>>Anonymous said...
Here's a better one. Per personnel order 2010-007. Ruth wedster is hereby reassigned to Capt special functions group. Capt Special Functions Group????? Since when is there a Capt In unit 141??? It's not like the districts aren't short captains. They send lieuts all over The city to cover for Capt shortages but they have to fill that "spot" that never existed before. Oh and did Jody open it up for all Capts to apply.... Yea, I didn't think so. Unfucking believable!
3/20/2010 05:32:00 AM<<<
WHOOOOOAAAA!!!
God Forbid She Comes to a District!!
Wow! Not Our District!!
I can think of a lot of people who should be Captain, and could come to our district. But, not her, in fact she needs an Executive Assistant there, how 'bout Penny T.
I've been all over the city. I've talked to a lot of Bosses. Everyone I can think of thinks Jughead is an idiot.
When Jughead walks into a room,
(or Masters, or Brust), every real cop thinks he is an idiot and can't wait until he leaves.
I wonder if that ever sunk into Jugheads thick skull?
"Anonymous said...
It's easy when you are a short-timer to tell it like it is.
It is very risky to do so when the likes of J-Fed and the midget hold your fate in their hands.
3/20/2010 08:27:00 AM"
It's Jody and Shortshanks that WE need to make SHORT TIMERS, in Office. And lifetimers in in the Federal Pen.
Register and VOTE!
Joe Patterson was agreat Sergeant in SOS, he was a great boss in the A/1 D Unit, great Commander in 007, and is probably the beat Deputy Chief that Area One has ever had. Why? Because he is a cop's cop, he has the beat interest of his men and women in mind. He is intelligent, well spoken and knows what it takes to get the job done. If J-Fraud and the Screaming Skull take offense to what he said, and he is removed from his office then it will be a great loss. Joe is not afraid to do what's right and his cops respect that, and him.
Nuff said!
Who the flux is screaming skull?
GPS and in car cameras work
be carefull out there
no one has our backs
OT from Chicago Breaking News ...
Crest Hill Police Chief Dwayne Wilkerson said today that "people have a right not to cooperate."
SAY WHAT ???
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/03/deputy-coroner-busted-for-dui-dont-you-know-who-i-am.html
Good job Joe, thanks for looking out for us!! We appreciate you.
If true, God bless this boss and here's hoping others will follow his lead.
Joe Patterson is a stand up guy. I worked for him in 008 and again in 007 and all I can say is he really cares about the troops.
The easiest way to solve the manpower shortage in patrol is to disband patrol and put everybody into units.
Thanks SCC for keeping the troops up to date with the shootings in this city. I'm surprised the media ignores all the shootings as we approach spring. It will be a loooooong summer ahead. Stay safe everyone.
Remember Sgt. Haymaker.
OT from Chicago Breaking News ...
Crest Hill Police Chief Dwayne Wilkerson said today that "people have a right not to cooperate."
SAY WHAT ???
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/03/deputy-coroner-busted-for-dui-dont-you-know-who-i-am.html
3/20/2010 07:55:00 PM
I guess they have a right to refuse the BAC and field sobriety tests, but then they always turn around and say they were sober. Well, if they were fucking sober, they would blow. So they can all go fuck themselves.
Instead of crying about the DUI, they need to change their fucking behavior. It's as easy as that.
Crest Hill Police Chief Dwayne Wilkerson said today that "people have a right not to cooperate."
True. People don't have to cooperate with the police. However, the majority forget that they then must deal with the consequences.
That is what our society has forgotten: That each and every person is responsible for their own actions.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When will a KMA boss step up and go to the media?
People are going to die because of this shortage.
3/20/2010 12:32:00 AM
Can we say Richard Francis working alone on midnights. Thats all that needs to be said.
I counted. 1st watch in 023 had 12 officers on the street. This for a district with a population of at least 1MILLION people. Its only a matter of time before disater strikes! SCC put up a fax # where we can send you the daily sheets on watches. Not only will you see people listed who are supposed to be on the street but aren't but the manned cars will be quite upsetting!
3/20/2010 11:47:00 AM
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The whole city has about THREE million people. The 023rd district does NOT have one-third of the whole city's population.
Even though it might seem like it on a Saturday night, it just ain't so, Joe.
Anonymous said...
Manpower needs ....I agree hire alot more police but also empty out the front offices and neigborhood relation offices....I mean 5 to do the work of 2........Give me a break...Tact secretaries,,,,,WTF is that all about...Someone check how many PO's the deputy chiefs have in their offices....come on people get those able bodies back to the streets...and quit putting all of those inside officers in civilian drsss...I mean wtf is that all about...
3/20/2010 04:12:00 PM
After the deputy chiefs, try looking at the academy. Howard has three full duty female officers that do secretarial work. What a waste.
QLC BLOG said...
Must be nice to have that huge paycheck and not have to do a thing. Actually the paycheck is not HUGE.When people on this blog are talking about doing nothing they are referring to the numbers game.If someone calls we come.If we see a crime we respond.I am sorry to say the old pro-active policing is dead but who would risk their livelihood or freedom in this day?
The blond in the policy group who started the women's tactical group is KB, formerly of the Barbie Wagon in 025. She has 7.5 years on the job, I know she was in my class.
A little more than you thought, but her MBA from Northwestern got her where she is, that and a workout habit, not her policing skills and definitely not her tactical experience.
'Cause its all legit.....c'mon Karen, remember the little guys out here in the streets. Tell your boss what its really like out here. Tell him we want cars that work, computers that allow us to do our jobs, detectives that care/show up/have gotten any sleep at all in the past week.
Tell him we don't care about cameras or automated contact cards. Tell him we care about our districts roof's not leaking, not waiting 1.5 hours to get our stinky/loud/jagoff prisoner in the back and a decent contract.
Tell him Karen, tell him what real coppers care about. Tell him and make sure he hears you.
AfuckingMEN!!!! Also those who say, "if I need help I will call", WTF!!!!If you have to call for help you are already in trouble...
3/20/2010 05:15:00 PM
Whatever.
Sorry SCC, but I attented the meeting, Patterson did say those things, but Peterson did not go off, bad info...Peterson, beleive it or not, does know what's going on. The Feds that run this department, on the other hand have no F&%^$n clue!
TO: 3/20/2010 11:23:00 AM
SCC
Just an FYI...Ruth is the WC in 003, 2nd Watch.
Fact.
This whole job makes me so sad. Really, really sad. I just turned 50 and thought I'd stay a few more years but I just don't know. This job will NEVER return to what it once was.
I saw a video on fox news about a copper in some other city who smacked a guy a few times because he was in the back of the squad and wouldn't quit kicking the window. The video camera looked like it had to be installed in the rear door. Copper got 18 months. Sure he didn't realize camera was there.Yet shitheads get arrested over and over for lots less and walk away.
So easy to get jammed up. So hard to even smile at work anymore.
Please look out for one another out there, and act as if you are always being recorded.
This city blows.
Thats only one boss but we need all of them to unite and tell jfed and shortshankes the truth. Now do you really think these scaredy cats will do that?
When you brief your supervisor on activity, whether its stats or case load or investigative status, and you tell the truth - the supervisor says thats not what they want to hear.
Thats where this problem of covering up the truth begins and it goes all the way up.
We need every PO to register to vote.
Period.
One of the main reasons that 42 Short gets away with the shit he does is that the people in the department don't vote.
10k registered voters in this city are enough to sway any Politico and make them listen.
I counted. 1st watch in 023 had 12 officers on the street. This for a district with a population of at least 1MILLION people. Its only a matter of time before disater strikes! SCC put up a fax # where we can send you the daily sheets on watches. Not only will you see people listed who are supposed to be on the street but aren't but the manned cars will be quite upsetting!
3/20/2010 11:47:00 AM
At least one million people in the 23rd District? Isn't there some kind of basic intelligence test to get hired on this job?
>>>Anonymous Anonymous said...
When will a KMA boss step up and go to the media?
People are going to die because of this shortage.
3/20/2010 12:32:00 AM
Can we say Richard Francis working alone on midnights. Thats all that needs to be said.
3/20/2010 10:42:00 PM>>>
Sgt. Haymaker, if there were enough DISTRICT police on the street, someone else might have gotten there first and given a slowdown.
Stay safe and drive carefully.
5 down cars in 011 tonight. And every night half of 010 midnights is held down waiting for vehicles...and then they are 99. This shit isn't gonna fly when the weather warms up.
dear scc,,wrong about peterson.correct on patterson.peterson praised patterson at meeting whoever said otherwise was not at meeting.
hey scc you got bad info regarding peterson..he praised patterson.i was at the meeting..patterson put brust in his place and peterson backed patterson..ask anyone who attended.
Anonymous said...
I don't think it was a matter of Patterson being pushed too far...I think all of the exempts have had enough of the bullshit coming down from the Hall through the useless twosome, WEISel/Masters, and being facilitated by the Asst. Supts. and the Deputy Supts., especially Dan 'the axe' Dugan. I think you're going to see more of these 'outbursts' at these CAR and MARS meetings until the WEISel's time is up.
Hopefully, by next February, Shortshanks will be on the way out too, which means Daley can take Masters little ass with him.
3/20/2010 04:02:00 PM
Yeah but then R. Emanuel will become Mayor, Masters will become Superintendent, and Nansy Pelosi will become Lt. Gov hahahaa. If I write a lot of parkers I will become Sgt.
"otherwise these "leaders" sit around and stoke themselves at these meetings"
That is NOT TRUE!
They stroke EACH OTHER!
It's almost like the academy awards, it's so pathetic.
Sgts, Lt’s, and close to Captains as well
Worthless they do nothing. You need one Sgt per watch one LT per dist and NO Captains. The real workers are the Blue shirts, and they get shit on from every direction.
One Sgt. per wtach? are you insane? you obviously work in teh building and have no idea what goes on to think one Sgt can suffice, it doesn't work in a slower district let alone a fast one...
tell it like it is
jfed area 1 and every area deputy chief has to many police officers assigned to their office
start there mr j fed 1 deputy chief gets 1 police officer and
no sergeants
You obviously have no idea what goes on in that office, there HAS to be a Sgt.
"Eliminate the specialized units. Put everyone in uniform in Patrol!"
Don't stop there-put EVERYONE on the street. Close down 35th Street. Put EVERYONE in a beat car, from J-Fed on down no less than ONCE A WEEK. Let light-duty cops do the inside work.
It says "POLICE" on your shit-prove it.
'Cause its all legit.....c'mon Karen, remember the little guys out here in the streets. Tell your boss what its really like out here. Tell him we want cars that work, computers that allow us to do our jobs, detectives that care/show up/have gotten any sleep at all in the past week.
Tell him we don't care about cameras or automated contact cards. Tell him we care about our districts roof's not leaking, not waiting 1.5 hours to get our stinky/loud/jagoff prisoner in the back and a decent contract.
Tell him Karen, tell him what real coppers care about. Tell him and make sure he hears you.
3/20/2010 11:10:00 PM
wait she has a mba from northwestern and she is on this job. wow! i mean what a waste of money your making the same as me with my 60 hours from wright. also i checked out that womans tact website make sure you put your coffee down before you read it. ultimate tact warrior check it out lookf for the future mrs.
Anonymous said...
I counted. 1st watch in 023 had 12 officers on the street. This for a district with a population of at least 1MILLION people. Its only a matter of time before disater strikes! SCC put up a fax # where we can send you the daily sheets on watches. Not only will you see people listed who are supposed to be on the street but aren't but the manned cars will be quite upsetting!
3/20/2010 11:47:00 AM
At least one million people in the 23rd District? Isn't there some kind of basic intelligence test to get hired on this job?
3/20/2010 11:47:00 PM
Yes. And you need an IQ of at least 125,000 or twelve billion or near that I think.
Maybe he is using the scale of counting from the million man march.
Anonymous said...
We need every PO to register to vote.
Period.
One of the main reasons that 42 Short gets away with the shit he does is that the people in the department don't vote.
10k registered voters in this city are enough to sway any Politico and make them listen.
3/20/2010 11:41:00 PM
You might find 10k voters in the 11th or 19th ward but not on the police department. and even if there were 10k registered police (which there isn't) they would mostly stay home on election day.
Anonymous said...
What we need is a man of action, a man of integrity, and policeman's policeman. We need Harley Schinker.
3/20/2010 11:32:00 AM
No, we need Sanford Neal back.
Anonymous said...
'Cause its all legit.....c'mon Karen, remember the little guys out here in the streets. Tell your boss what its really like out here. Tell him we want cars that work, computers that allow us to do our jobs, detectives that care/show up/have gotten any sleep at all in the past week.
Tell him we don't care about cameras or automated contact cards. Tell him we care about our districts roof's not leaking, not waiting 1.5 hours to get our stinky/loud/jagoff prisoner in the back and a decent contract.
Tell him Karen, tell him what real coppers care about. Tell him and make sure he hears you.
3/20/2010 11:10:00 PM
###############################
She can't do all that!
She can't because SHE NEVER DID!
She is nothing but a liar.
She has no clue as to what a police officer does.
She is just like Luberman, no time on the job yet knows everthing!
Hey Mayor time to fix the Police Department again. This time get it right and put a real Policeman in charge of the troops.
Give Dan Dugan a shot at the title and see what he can do. It certainly would be an improvement over what we have now.
ARE YOU FUCKING CRAZY ? AFTER THE LOPEZ DEBACLE ?
NOT GONNA HAPPEN
FIVE ONE MAN CARS IN ENGLEWOOD ON 1ST WATCH AND THE WAGON DOUBLED AS A BEAT CAR!ONLY ONE 10-1 ON A COLD WEEKEND!!SIX ONE MAN CARS FOR MONDAY NIGHT!3 PEOPLE SENT TO TRAINING ...TASER,ACTIVE SHOOTER,AND SEACH AND SEIZURE!SO STUPID AND NOT SAFE!!FORGET THE TRAINING!!!WE R GONNA HAVE ANOTHER COP KILLED AND NO ONE CARES!!
Anonymous said...
I counted. 1st watch in 023 had 12 officers on the street. This for a district with a population of at least 1MILLION people. Its only a matter of time before disater strikes! SCC put up a fax # where we can send you the daily sheets on watches. Not only will you see people listed who are supposed to be on the street but aren't but the manned cars will be quite upsetting!
3/20/2010 11:47:00 AM
At least one million people in the 23rd District? Isn't there some kind of basic intelligence test to get hired on this job?
3/20/2010 11:47:00 PM
I think that post was in tribute to Dr. Evil...
"wait she has a mba from northwestern and she is on this job. wow! i mean what a waste of money your making the same as me with my 60 hours from wright. also i checked out that womans tact website make sure you put your coffee down before you read it. ultimate tact warrior check it out lookf for the future mrs."
MBA my ass, she has an undergrad which anyone can get from NW if you have the $. As far as the ultimate tact warrior trolling for a wife, she is already married, het husband was transferred to asset forfeiture on a phone call soon after jfed came out with his "everyone can apply to task force units" bullshit. More lies from the top.
After the deputy chiefs, try looking at the academy. Howard has three full duty female officers that do secretarial work. What a waste.
3/20/2010 10:50:00 PM
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Do not let the studious look fool you. Howard is a dope. However, like so many others, he is a well connected dope, but a real dope nonetheless, and very rattled by the well connected schemer, Ruth.
I wish they were still paired together, Howard and Ruth, Ruth and Howard. What a pair. Watching Howard become wide-eyed and dumbfounded while Ruth rendered him a eunuch was sad to see, but fascinating to watch. While the process was interesting, the result was of no consequence because Howard doesn't miss the parts he never used.
Here's a better one. Per personnel order 2010-007. Ruth wedster is hereby reassigned to Capt special functions group. Capt Special Functions Group????? Since when is there a Capt In unit 141??? It's not like the districts aren't short captains. They send lieuts all over The city to cover for Capt shortages but they have to fill that "spot" that never existed before. Oh and did Jody open it up for all Capts to apply.... Yea, I didn't think so. Unfucking believable!
Could be the boss of bosses Steve Georgas (hey that rhymes) may be moving somewhere else if they're bringing in a capt. Up, down? Time will tell- but make it quick.
At least one million people in the 23rd District? Isn't there some kind of basic intelligence test to get hired on this job?
Yeah, it's called a true/false written test with a 52% passing grade. Obviously he/she is clouted and is on the top of the sergeants list.
"Eliminate the specialized units. Put everyone in uniform in Patrol!"
Don't stop there-put EVERYONE on the street. Close down 35th Street. Put EVERYONE in a beat car, from J-Fed on down no less than ONCE A WEEK. Let light-duty cops do the inside work.
It says "POLICE" on your shit-prove it.
I take it you want to be a field grunt forever? No aspirations? So sad...
>>>Anonymous said...
"They don't have squat, their leaders are windbags and they realize fearless leader (Obama) is inept and pushing their cause back 50 years.
3/20/2010 08:35:00 AM"
Yeah blame a guy in office for 14 months for 50yrs of Societal Ills& Social Program malfeasance.
Why don't you blame him for the Depression altho he wasnt born until 30 years later.
3/20/2010 01:01:00 PM<<<
14 Months???
How much longer is that than the time the Messiah was a U.S. Senator???
"The Depression", do you mean the pre-WWII depression or the depression we are going into with the Democratic TAX-SPEND-GIVE AWAY TO THE NON-PRODUCTIVE-BORROW-TAX-THE RIGHTS OF CITIZENS BE DAMNED-TAX SPEND MORE one that we will sonn go into if this our country does not stop the Liberal-Nazis.
That Depression that will start very soon if the Obama agenda is not stopped.
not a boss revolt. just a plan by the man to put JP AT THE TOP GOOD GUY OR NOT A MERIT BOY WHOM THEY WILL USE TO DO THEIR BIDDING. REMEMBER HILLIARD A POLICEMAN'S POLICE
Love him or hate him, the skull was smart enough to put experienced detectives in A/4's CMO office to get rid of b.s. GOCR's
He also has been fighting to get more detective classes
However, the skull's biggest fuck up was the Vasquez investigation which he will never recover from
Masters was not at the meeting! Peterson's comment to Patterson was "good answer!"
>>>Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
We need every PO to register to vote.
Period.
One of the main reasons that 42 Short gets away with the shit he does is that the people in the department don't vote.
10k registered voters in this city are enough to sway any Politico and make them listen.
3/20/2010 11:41:00 PM
You might find 10k voters in the 11th or 19th ward but not on the police department. and even if there were 10k registered police (which there isn't) they would mostly stay home on election day.
3/21/2010 06:04:00 AM<<<
Yes Register and Vote.
Why does Shorty, and all the other politicians go to and maybe even have floats in the Gay Pride Parade? The Bud Bilikan Parade? The Mexican Independence Parade? The What-Ever Parade?
And NOT the St. Jude Parade?
Because the politicians can depend upon these people to vote, and the politicians will then vote and spend tax dollars in favor of the people who vote and the rest of us be damned to just pay the bills.
What we need to do is not to parade around City Hall. That might not even make it on the 6 o'clock news. What we need to do is to go into our own neighborhoods, just like precienct captains and tell people the truth. We should hand out flyers explaining the truth about what is going on with the department and the city.
Stay Safe. Bosses Revolt!! REGISTER everyone you can VOTE and make the politicians FEAR US.
"dear scc,,wrong about peterson.correct on patterson.peterson praised patterson at meeting whoever said otherwise was not at meeting.
3/21/2010 12:20:00 AM"
say "Peterson praised Patterson" 10 times, really fast.
You all complain about POs working inside when they're full-duty, instead of being on the street.
And yes, we DO need more POs on the street.
But who do you think would do the inside work if all the "inside" POs were out on the street?
Civilians?
You'd bitch about that, too.
20. Removal/forced retirement of Mike Chasen
Too tired to go on...
3/20/2010 07:32:00 PM
21. Removal/Demotion of D/S Michael Shields
99 unit responded in a timely fashion to a bonafied shots fired call with vic this a.m., r/o on scene for several minutes with no assistance. r/o in question has less than 5, less than 5, again less than 5!!! God Bless him!!! He was out there on an unsecured scene with no back up and just his fantastic plastic piece of crap 9mm for several minutes, because shortshanks won't hire PO-LICE !!!
You might find 10k voters in the 11th or 19th ward but not on the police department. and even if there were 10k registered police (which there isn't) they would mostly stay home on election day.
3/21/2010 06:04:00 AM
Ok...my numbers are a little off..apologies for that.
But the point is still valid.
If every working still PO was a registered voter..it would still be a large enough faction to make the politicians listen.
Lets be honest...
For every 1 PO...you probably have about 25 people that listen and agree with your views on whats wrong with the way this city is being run.
That equation works out to simple math.
Say 9k total CPD.
25 * 9,000 = 225,000 voters
225,000 voters is enough to put someone on a ballot in every election. And if they are all in the same ward, it is enough to most likely control the outcome of an alder-manic election.
Almost a quarter of a million potential friends of the police, and though friends have friends; and etc....
in response to the person that wants to eliminate all units and bid desk jobs.,all I can say is someday you will have enough to bid for a spot, and if light duty officers were the only officers assigned we would have even more medical abuse then we have now!
Maybe he is using the scale of counting from the million man march.
I don't think so. I think the million man march was purposely
undercounted. I was out in DC on other business at the time, and I would have definitely estimated the crowd at a million. Easily.
DOES RUTHIE TALK NICE TO EVERYONE, OR WOULD JFED HAVE TO INTERVENE?
Some of thos names of exempts forced out, such as Aandra Day, are not a loss to the department. Do not feel bad for exempts who are demoted. For way too many years no exempts were demoted unless their clout died. They made it on clout and lost it on clout. Some of them might have been qualified, but so wHat? I have known many police officers of all races and both sexes who were very well qualified and could go no where because they were not connected or liked. I have no sympathy for any of those folks on the list. Shit happens
Do not let the studious look fool you. Howard is a dope. However, like so many others, he is a well connected dope, but a real dope nonetheless, and very rattled by the well connected schemer, Ruth.
I wish they were still paired together, Howard and Ruth, Ruth and Howard. What a pair. Watching Howard become wide-eyed and dumbfounded while Ruth rendered him a eunuch was sad to see, but fascinating to watch. While the process was interesting, the result was of no consequence because Howard doesn't miss the parts he never used.
3/21/2010 09:37:00 AM
After Ruth left the academy, all of the meetings have stopped and Howard will not meet with academy staff. Ruth always kept open communications with supervisiors and staff. Now it is sad to watch. The only time we see Howard is when he exercises in the hallway early every morning. Me thinks there is change in the air and soon we will emerge from this cloud of a leadership void. Howard deserves a promotion after taking care of Masters.
20. Removal/forced retirement of Mike Chasen
Too tired to go on...
3/20/2010 07:32:00 PM
21. Removal/Demotion of D/S Michael Shields
3/21/2010 01:49:00 PM
22. Removal/Rehire of Robert Lopez
Hey annonymous ass who ridicules police officers for making arrests of top ten offenders.....get off your lazy ass and and lock up some shithead gangbangers.
Only a success story because if we continue to lock up these shitheads every time they dare to loiter, than maybe some innocent little 3 year old won't get shot while his mother is holding him innocently standing on the street.
Don't be a dickhead unless you can do better.
There is noway Joe Patterson is going anywhere. First who would they replace him with, there are only 13 Black Lts and 4 Black Capts. Matbe Phillis Gill? Mark Moore? Evans? Mathews? Washington?Forget it there are only 5 o6 Blacks that are promotable right now so the ones that are in place are safe unless you pull a TRAHANNAS. Second if he were dumped the Rev's would storm 35th St. and he wouild be repromoted,J FED cant go through that again, so Joe will stay, and Joe knows it or he would have never saisd a word. He picked his spot like a pro.
Maybe he is using the scale of counting from the million man march.
I don't think so. I think the million man march was purposely
undercounted. I was out in DC on other business at the time, and I would have definitely estimated the crowd at a million. Easily.
3/21/2010 04:15:00 PM
I was living there then and I would say they were lucky if the crowd was even 300,000.
REMEMBER HILLIARD A POLICEMAN'S POLICE
3/21/2010 10:45:00 AM
The fucking cocksucker never heard of an allegation he couldn't stick up some copper's ass. No superintendent in my 26 years was faster to get on TV and blame a policeman. And look at him now...selling gee whiz equipment to the city and starting his own P.I. company. A company that will soon have the contract to process all recruits. Terry Hillard a policeman's police...my hairy fucking ass.
What the fuck is a policeman's police? That doesn't even make sense.
Word at the FOP meeting was that 195 PO's had signed up retirement in 2010, with 109 retiring in April.
Stay away from the doors----don't want to get stampeded.
seems like, to get a look at lts and capts who would make good bosses.....look at those who haven't made it, and/or won't take a spot....
"I take it you want to be a field grunt forever? No aspirations? So sad..."
Hold on a minute there. Just because a guy WANTS to be a field grunt doesn't mean he doesn't have ambition.
That's one of the biggest problems on this department; everyone looks at pushing a beat car as the bottom of the barrel. Well that's bull.
Patrol is not only the most visible and accessible part of the police department, but it's also the most visible and accessible are of local government.
Everything else should be regarded as a support unit FOR PATROL.
The patrol officer should be the king (or queen) of the department. Patrol is the basic building block of any police department.
Why do you think that there's all this talk of disbanding units, not making any more promotions, putting more people on the street?
...and no, I'm not in patrol anymore.
"I take it you want to be a field grunt forever? No aspirations? So sad..."
The "field grunts" should RUN the department.
Don't EVER look down on yourself for being a beat cop.
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