Disbanding the Teams
Someone who obviously sees the things that we only hear about:
- OFF Topic but on Friday I saw the paper work begining to cancel the details of all GUN and PSN teams in the Areas. The memo read due to the low productivity of all the gun teams. Also it was told that there is no need for gun teams anymore due to the Gang Enforcement Unit taking up the slack of doing more search warrants and focus on guns. As well as the increase focuse of the CAGE unit. The CAGE unit may possibly be expanded. The memo also stated that the CAGE and GUN/PSN teams are duplicating efforts and these resources can be foucsed in areas of need. The Gun and PSN team are to be sent back to the district by the 5th period. Also there is still discussion of removing the Saturation teams as well, and leaving the midnight tact team.
I saw the numbers from the memo and without removing the midnight tact teams and sending the sat and gun teams back (with removing a inside spot the meaning the sec.) thats 150 po's and 16 Sgt's back to the Districts by the 5th period. Again the draft memo stated that due to the TRU and MSF there is no longer a need for Sat teams as MSF and TRU are deployed at the request of the Area Deputy Chief.
The memo further stated with the anticipation of the contract being settled and retirements in a large increase that these officers are going to be needed in the districts until the manpower issued can be resolved. If an additional officers are needed the midnight tact teams can also be sent back with an additional 50 p.o.'s and 5 Sgt's.
So there you have it boys and girls thats how they plan to place an extra 150 to 200 officers and 20 some Sgt's back in the Districts by summer.
This summer isn't going to be anything but a holding action as far as we can tell. And barely that.
Labels: department issues, rumors
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
83 Comments:
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
Expand CAGE? All they do is violate peoples rights to bear arms. They bully there way into peoples homes and confiscated all there guns.
What do you expect when you have a meritorious SGT. who writes a memo alerting everyone all the way up to the Superintendent that he obtained information from an informant (from behind his desk of all things) that a major gang leader for one of the most infamous Chicago gangs was being released and that there was going to be a party in honor of it at a well known South Side Park.
Well after some "research and verification" was done by the Superintendent's office they figured out that this Gang Leader has been incarcerated since the late 1980's and in fact is serving an 80 year sentence for domestic terrorism and an additional 75 year sentence for Murder.
What a blithering MERIT IDIOT!
As soon as they lift the GUN BAN like they did in our nation's capitol they will all be reassigned as well.
we will welcome them all with open arms--- the summer will soon be upon us and the patrol division will be swamped with jobs with no one to send... s.o.s. send more cops and fast....
This is a very vicious rumour. It so happens this rumour has already been put to rest. My guys asked me about this week and was addressed accordingly. The gun teams are not going to be disbanded. Please put this to rest as soon as possible and go to another topic. The only people who get hurt are the hard workers who have enough things to do coming to work day in and day out and then hear stuff like this that adds more stress to their already busy agenda. Again the gun teams are not going to be disbanded. The only good rumour we have heard is that the contract is close to closure with the contract going to be very,very good to the guys and gals with a retro check made available on 01 Jul. Continue working hard and good things will happen.
Coming soon to a district near you:
Disgruntled, UNIFORMED, 3-year-on-the-job crybaby Hair Gels telling tales of woe and how much it sucks to have given 110% to the company after ingesting the 35th Street Koolaide, only to have it jammed in your pooper.
Declarations of "I'm not going to do shit anymore" will echo throughout district hallways, followed by the laughter of coppers who knew it was snake eyes before the dice were cast.
Welcome back, boys and girls! Your mere presence and freshly acquired miserable attitudes will serve as comical fodder for plenty of us.
When are we going to get some new bodies in Det. Division??????? Make another class already!!!!! It's been over 2 years already since any fresh blood has arrived!!
If the defender can put his king in front of the pawn, on a square that can't be attacked by the enemy bishop, it's a draw.
It was inevitable, a smart idea and necessary, we need the help in the districts....
There are so many units that take away manpower from the districts that's is outrageous! So many of these units do the same task woring the same types of crimes. The districts need the manpower badley. I would totally agree with getting rid of the Gun teams, Sat teams etc. There is no need for them. What we need is more police partolling and responding to 911 calls.
oh poor little clout babies have to join the rest of us.hurry 3yr wonders make your phone calls and get on the useless tact teams aka drinkers on the public way police.and by the way,speaking of useless j-mutt,go fuck yourself.
I thought someone said we are not down in manpower and that we are operating at a 10% vacancy? Shortage....it's a myth!
It sounds like they are in a bit of a panic about warmer weather headed this way.
Remember to stay safe.
A Resident
Bad idea, these units ride on 1a jobs if you send them back now you create more paper pushers and have less people available to answer in progress calls. Actually, that doesn't sound half bad...send us back I don't have to do shit! Woo hoo!
This would be the best move the city could make. We can only hope that it is true.
Happening to be on one of these teams, it wouldn't suprse me because of the way Patrol is treated. The true "units" will never be touched but anything in patrol is fair game, and contrary to belief, not everyone on these teams are hooked up. If it happens so be it, we had a good run. But for you haters, who take glee in the demise of other policemen and women, I probably won't be around to hear you whining, unless your on days. You assume all these POs will be on 3rd Watch, try aain.
NICE TRY
well ill be, i guess thats the reason that everyone is going on 4-2 wow.
We wont need gun teams when the gun ban is overturned anyway.
We need more officers on the streets. Sorry saturation teams, gun teams, gang teams, etc... patrol is where it all begins. Don't give me this bullshit that "we are hard workers", "we are gang guys, we know gangs", etc....
One can be a proactive patrol officer. In 025 1st watch, the 30 sector cars come in with good arrests while the saturation team, and tact team comes in with drinkers, pissers, cannabis, and of course obstruction of traffic by a non-motorist. Don't believe me? Look at the numbers!
reduce tactical teams to 6 men
and eliminate tactical lt
Perhaps all these gun teams will be facing second and fourth amendment rights violations soon?
"Expand CAGE? All they do is violate peoples rights to bear arms. They bully there way into peoples homes and confiscated all there guns"
------------------------------------------------------------------No search warrant ? Get the fuck out of here !
Send the Gang Enf. teams back to the districts.
Disgruntled, UNIFORMED, 3-year-on-the-job crybaby Hair Gels telling tales of woe and how much it sucks to have given 110% to the company after ingesting the 35th Street Koolaide, only to have it jammed in your pooper.
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How many 3 year wonders are on this job? I don't remember very many people hired over the past 5 years.
I wonder what percentage of this department has less than 5 years? 10%?
I'll bet that more than 2/3 of this department has more than 10 years.
When are we going to get some new bodies in Det. Division??????? Make another class already!!!!! It's been over 2 years already since any fresh blood has arrived!!
3/15/2010 01:48:00 AM
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The D unit is in total shambles. This department has resigned itself to doing nothing on most cases, including murders. There are almost 300 dicks in Area Three and they had less than 10 murders last year. The department only cares about counting guns and contact cards. Nothing else matters.
Only cases that make their way into the newspapers are given any attention or resources. The rest are just left unsolved.
I don't think this department will be making more detectives or sergeants for many years. They'll simply freeze everyone in place until retirements dwindle down the department.
The gun teams are not going to be disbanded.
Sorry, your are wrong. Ever since the latest Supreme Court challenge to Chicago's gun ban makes it look like they will deem it unconstitutional, Daley has ordered all gun teams to be disbanded.
All former gun team members will be sent back to patrol. After all, hand guns are illegal in Chicago. LMAO!
The Central Control Gruppe is thankful for the manpower boost.
Its to good to be true. when they do return to the watch, you'll easilly be able to point them out, no name tage or star, (Or maybe the star is on a chain) Blk hoodie near by.
This is a very vicious rumour. It so happens this rumour has already been put to rest. My guys asked me about this week and was addressed accordingly. The gun teams are not going to be disbanded. Please put this to rest as soon as possible and go to another topic. The only people who get hurt are the hard workers who have enough things to do coming to work day in and day out and then hear stuff like this that adds more stress to their already busy agenda. Again the gun teams are not going to be disbanded. The only good rumour we have heard is that the contract is close to closure with the contract going to be very,very good to the guys and gals with a retro check made available on 01 Jul. Continue working hard and good things will happen.
Yeah... i'll get right to working hard so i can get kicked in the balls and no promotion.
Not paying attention, can someone tell me what a PSN team is?
Everybody knows this is coming and if you think it isnt, you are a fool. They might tell you that this is all BS but thats so you keep on working while you are there. Dont worry boys and girls, the 4 and 2 that are in a district that you will be going to is the BEST. On the other hand, you might be working those 4 and 2 on midnights. Oh well it was a good ride while it lasted. And think of all the cars it would free up for district law enforcement. It just makes sense!
April 15th 2010, expect a very large amount of police officers to retire on this day.
A bird in personnel says there are so many leaving on that day, they will have to use the auditorium to process all of them.
(why the 15th?)
(the 15th of each month is the best possible day to leave and get your retirement check six weeks later. the retirement board only meets once a month and the 15th is the magic day, any other day will result in you waiting 8 to 10 weeks for that first check).
Happy Retirement Officers, you deserve it!
3/15/2010 12:43:00 AM
Agreed the cage teams are made up of starry eyed children,that are enamored with the gold star clowns!
(OT) Hey boss maybe you could send the tru-msf-and whatever the fuck you want to call the "teams" out west on 811's beat, lots of graffitti gang punks walking around! You know boss the peole that pay the taxes DESERVE THE SERVICE! You devote so many of the little resources we have to the animals over esat and their jails ie schools LOL!
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.. You sir/mam are one funny mother#@?! lol...
Not going to happen. Sorry but bad rumor.
This rumor is 100% false. It clearly is made up. It surprises me that you would post such a ridiculous comment on the main page. The gun teams have already been told by the higher ups that they are not going anywhere. in another story I "saw" a piece of paper from "somewhere" that said Oswald acted alone.
I tell you one thing A/3 does not need a Gun Team, Sat Team, or midnight Gang Team. Just my opinion.
This one is not true... take that to the bank. Gun teams are not going anywhere. Saturation teams... well, thats another thing. they may be out, but the gun guys are not going anywhere.
This is a very vicious rumour. It so happens this rumour has already been put to rest. My guys asked me about this week and was addressed accordingly. The gun teams are not going to be disbanded. Please put this to rest as soon as possible and go to another topic. The only people who get hurt are the hard workers who have enough things to do coming to work day in and day out and then hear stuff like this that adds more stress to their already busy agenda. Again the gun teams are not going to be disbanded. The only good rumour we have heard is that the contract is close to closure with the contract going to be very,very good to the guys and gals with a retro check made available on 01 Jul. Continue working hard and good things will happen.
3/15/2010 01:29:00 AM
Said Supt J-Fed
Seriously,gun team defender.If you guys were told all you can bring in are guns,no dope,or warrants you would have zero activity. So y r u really needed.The guys that come in with guns cant get on the gun teams without a phone call anyways.Cant believe it took the brass so long to realize the gun teams r useless Hard working or not ,if u cant find guns you dont belong on a gun team.Look at Area 5s numbers,they get maybe one a month.And thats usually on a crapshoot westside search warrant where almost every house has a gun.Real brain work, idiots.But as long as your tight with their idiot sgt your ok.How did the old deputy not see this but still wound up getting promoted, wow
GUN team
PSN teams
Gang Enforcement Unit
CAGE
TRU
MSF
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That's a lotta units. What the hell is a PSN Team?
WRONG again, statistically the gun teams bring in more guns than most districts and units, and that is with 16 Officers. They get more bang for their buck.
Can somebody, anybody please tell me what the difference between the saturation teams, mobile strike force and targeted response teams are? From what I can tell they all do the same thing? Why have all three? For that matter, what's the difference between the area gang teams out of homan and the midnight gang teams out of the area other than the hours? You've got enough of them at homan, why not make them work all three watches? And my personal favorite question, why do we see the sat teams, msf and tru riding around 3 and 4 deep but every district has down cars and one man cars on the 3rd and 1st watches?
Please someone from any of those above mentioned units explain this. None of those, "cuz they're clout babies" or any of that. Just legitamite questions looking for legitamite answers.
PSN = PROJECT SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS
dont ask j-fed whats going on he is in the dark.
WEIS IS NOT RUNNING THE DEPARTMENT ANYMORE. HE IS A VERY EXPENSIVE FIGURE HEAD.
EXAMPLE 1
J-FED DEMOTES LOPEZ AND THEN IS TOLD BRING HIM BACK.
EXAMPLE 2
J-FED DOESN'T RETURN DA MAYOR CALL SO J-FED HAS A NEW SPOT CHIEF OF STAFF!
EXAMPLE 3
J-FED PROMOTES A WHOLE LOT OF COMMANDERS AND HE NEVER INTERVIEWED ANY OF THEM.
COULDNT EVEN POINT THEM OUT IN A LINE UP IF HE HAD TOO.
The westside do-nothing sure has a lot of comments for being a dog-ass. I have just over ten years, no "clout" and work on one of these teams. If I go back, I'm done. There won't be any complaints or whining. Here is your report.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
WRONG again, statistically the gun teams bring in more guns than most districts and units, and that is with 16 Officers. They get more bang for their buck.
3/15/2010 04:44:00 PM
Most of the guns are brought in by search warrant. And most houses in the West and South sides have guns. So big freaking deal. And when you guys do get a gun off the street, it is based on pure chance/luck! You do enough searches and stop enough people and you will find a gun here and there.
We need patrol officers. In 025 1st watch we are very short. We usually have seven to nine 99 units and the wagon is a beat car plus the wagon.
Patrol needs help. An officer can find guns, dope, and even pissers while wearing a blue shirt. No need to have all of those specialized teams.
150 po's back to districts. Big f'n deal.
That's 2 per watch citywide; beat cars have a relief factor of .9 so that's the equivalent of 1 PO back per district per watch. And (s)he'll be on the medical....
Net gain=0
Or else, some districts will get more than their 6 PO's back, and that commander will immediately create another tact, burglary, robbery, dog fighting, gun, troubled housing, whatever team, and you will never see any of them.
I don't think A3 has 300. I don't think they have half of that. I will be glad to go there and help out. It does not look like any Det promotions this year according to the Chief.
Well, with all these officers comimng back to their districts, I guess I can kiss my 5B and 8B furlo goodbye for next year.
"And my personal favorite question, why do we see the sat teams, msf and tru riding around 3 and 4 deep but every district has down cars and one man cars on the 3rd and 1st watches?"
Two reasons Einstein,
1. They don't ride 99. Someones partner takes off, they jump on another car.
2. The garage doesn't give the units pool cars. The Districts actually have priority when it comes to pool cars.
Happening to be on one of these teams, it wouldn't suprse me because of the way Patrol is treated. The true "units" will never be touched but anything in patrol is fair game, and contrary to belief, not everyone on these teams are hooked up. If it happens so be it, we had a good run. But for you haters, who take glee in the demise of other policemen and women, I probably won't be around to hear you whining, unless your on days. You assume all these POs will be on 3rd Watch, try aain.
3/15/2010 07:48:00 AM
Spell Check is a wonderful tool- Use it Tool.
Can someone decipher the above Hair-Gel Rant?
Fuck You Kid-We were on days before you were a wet dream. Get some time on the job and become the Police.
Revolver Police
We need more officers on the streets. Sorry saturation teams, gun teams, gang teams, etc... patrol is where it all begins. Don't give me this bullshit that "we are hard workers", "we are gang guys, we know gangs", etc....
One can be a proactive patrol officer. In 025 1st watch, the 30 sector cars come in with good arrests while the saturation team, and tact team comes in with drinkers, pissers, cannabis, and of course obstruction of traffic by a non-motorist. Don't believe me? Look at the numbers!
3/15/2010 08:29:00 AM
How did you enjoy your 1B, 2A this year?
CAN EVERYONE SEE THIS? THE MAYOR HOLDS OFF HIRING MORE POLICE . THE MONEY IS THE IN THE BUDGET.HE GETS AS MANY AS POSSIBLE TO RETIRE WITH THE FREE MEDICAL . MORE MONEY SAVED (MONEY IN BUGET FOR REST OF YEAR) NEAR ELECTION TIME HE ANNOUCES THAT LOW AND BEHOLD THE CITY WILL HIRE 3000 MORE POLICE TO KEEP THE CITY SAFE AT REGARDLESS OF THE COST .WINK WINK. MORE VOTES HE COMES OUT LOOKING LIKE A SHINY NEW PENNY. SORRY TO USE YOU PENNY
Anonymous said...
April 15th 2010, expect a very large amount of police officers to retire on this day.
A bird in personnel says there are so many leaving on that day, they will have to use the auditorium to process all of them.
(why the 15th?)
(the 15th of each month is the best possible day to leave and get your retirement check six weeks later. the retirement board only meets once a month and the 15th is the magic day, any other day will result in you waiting 8 to 10 weeks for that first check).
3/15/2010 11:40:00 AM
Not accurate. Retire on the 1st to the 15th of say April and get you first check 6 weeks later, June 1st. Retire April 16th to April 30th (or actually till the 15th of the following month) and your first check will be 10 weeks later, or the month following June 1st, that is July 1st.
Best thing, don't get in the bind of needing that 1st retirement check to pay bills and retire when the hell you want and forget about it all.
Just for clarification to the one comment "there are 300 dicks in Area Three". Please learn how to read and count. There are approx 150 with another 15 ready to retire in the next month. Do the math please.
Wow. Dsiband gun teams thats about 64 people spread over 25 districts. That will do a lot of good. 2 1/2 people per district.
EXAMPLE 3
J-FED PROMOTES A WHOLE LOT OF COMMANDERS AND HE NEVER INTERVIEWED ANY OF THEM.
COULDNT EVEN POINT THEM OUT IN A LINE UP IF HE HAD TOO.
3/15/2010 05:52:00 PM
You got that right. I heard that Possum Head walked up to Volgaris,
a short time after he dumped him into Patrol, and said something like "hey, great job you are doing out here". He didn't even know him.
Disbanding those area gun teams will only be a drop in the bucket against this summer's war on crime.
Good luck coppers!
Disband everyone unit. Thousands of POs back into the districts... WHERE THEY BELONG!
"Just for clarification to the one comment "there are 300 dicks in Area Three".
YOU LEFT OUT THE 40+ DICKS ASSIGNED TO AREA 3 BUT DETAILED OUT. CHECK THE ASSIGNMENT SHEETS. BUT I'M SURE THAT'S THE CASE IN EVERY AREA. MORE LIES& BULLSHIT CPD STYLE
"WRONG again, statistically the gun teams bring in more guns than most districts and units, and that is with 16 Officers. They get more bang for their buck.
3/15/2010 04:44:00 PM"
ONE WOULD HOPE THE GUN TEAMS BRING IN MORE GUNS,SHIT FOR BRAINS
I probably won't be around to hear you whining, unless your on days. You assume all these POs will be on 3rd Watch, try aain.
3/15/2010 07:48:00 AM
YOU'RE DETAILED AND SERVE AT THE BEHEST OF MANAGEMENT.YOU'LL GO TO THE WATCH THAT NEEDS MANPOWER, ENJOY THE NEXT 8 MONTHS ON MIDNITES STROKE!!
Anonymous said...
I tell you one thing A/3 does not need a Gun Team, Sat Team, or midnight Gang Team. Just my opinion.
3/15/2010 01:35:00 PM
HEY, HEY, HEY!!!!
I heard from one of the lockup guys in 019 that one of those teams did make a pinch last year, wasn't Midnight tact cause they weren't created yet, wasn't the gun team, SAT team maybe? Doubt it, but I also heard the A/3 gun team did recover a gun in 2008......
Anonymous said...
When are we going to get some new bodies in Det. Division??????? Make another class already!!!!! It's been over 2 years already since any fresh blood has arrived!!
3/15/2010 01:48:00 AM
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The D unit is in total shambles. This department has resigned itself to doing nothing on most cases, including murders. There are almost 300 dicks in Area Three and they had less than 10 murders last year. The department only cares about counting guns and contact cards. Nothing else matters.
Only cases that make their way into the newspapers are given any attention or resources. The rest are just left unsolved.
I don't think this department will be making more detectives or sergeants for many years. They'll simply freeze everyone in place until retirements dwindle down the department.
3/15/2010 09:31:00 AM
Who the FUCK wrote this? Check the alpha file you stupid fucking idiot there are not even 200 decs in Area Three.
Its to good to be true. when they do return to the watch, you'll easilly be able to point them out, no name tage or star, (Or maybe the star is on a chain) Blk hoodie near by or a baseball cap put on backwards...
3/15/2010 10:18:00 AM
One can be a proactive patrol officer. In 025 1st watch, the 30 sector cars come in with good arrests while the saturation team, and tact team comes in with drinkers, pissers, cannabis, and of course obstruction of traffic by a non-motorist. Don't believe me? Look at the numbers!
3/15/2010 08:29:00 AM
dude, there's no one around but the thug with the high profile warrant... is chicago's most wanted... with an tech-nine...wanted for a high profile murder...with pounds of narcotics in his front left pocket that YOU working 99 arrested!!! you are the one man gang...
Anonymous said...
(OT) Hey boss maybe you could send the tru-msf-and whatever the fuck you want to call the "teams" out west on 811's beat, lots of graffitti gang punks walking around! You know boss the peole that pay the taxes DESERVE THE SERVICE! You devote so many of the little resources we have to the animals over esat and their jails ie schools LOL!
3/15/2010 11:49:00 AM
That would be great,but the non-taxpayers get the service call the alderthief zalewski and bitch 773-582-4444 !!!!
3/16/2010 12:47:00 AM
you sir are the shit for brains...you cant have it both ways and say theydont do anything on one hand and then say they do have more guns because they should. You sir are ignorant and lacking any sensibilities or basic debate skills. So which is it??? Go back to complaining bisatch.
Sorry, will still see you on days.
3/15/2010 06:04:00 PM
Once again, you are wrong, I know for a fact that atl least one area has gotten more guns off the street than on search warrants. All proven stats. So you are merely wrong. But I wouldnt expect any more, police officers worry about everyone else but themselves. They complain about everything and everyone.
I work in Area 3. We were told that whenever we get a gun CALL THE GUN TEAM. I am just an average cop and got maybe five guns in the last two or three years. I never called the gun team. What the fuck for?
019 tact has more guns and guns with a head than the A/3 gun team over the past year. This is very sad. 019 is one of the slowest if not the slowest dist. in the city. Why does A/3 gun team exist? The north side districts are doing their own and dont need em
"And my personal favorite question, why do we see the sat teams, msf and tru riding around 3 and 4 deep but every district has down cars and one man cars on the 3rd and 1st watches?"
Two reasons Einstein,
1. They don't ride 99. Someones partner takes off, they jump on another car.
2. The garage doesn't give the units pool cars. The Districts actually have priority when it comes to pool cars.
3/15/2010 08:23:00 PM
EXACTLY EINSTEIN, if someones partner takes off they ride three deep. Funny, even w/o someones partner taking off the patrol division is sendinding out one man cars on the 3rd and 1st watches. According to your theory, einstein when a beat car doesnt have a partner they should go out with another beat car? Oh no wait, im sorry only the elite get to to that. Why can't tru/msf go out as a one man unit when their partner takes off? Disband all these fucking units, put everybody in patrol and watch crime drop.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.. You sir/mam are one funny mother#@?! lol...
3/15/2010 11:53:00 AM
If I miss another day of school...I'm gonna have to barf up a lung ! That was too funny
"And my personal favorite question, why do we see the sat teams, msf and tru riding around 3 and 4 deep but every district has down cars and one man cars on the 3rd and 1st watches?"
Two reasons Einstein,
1. They don't ride 99. Someones partner takes off, they jump on another car.
2. The garage doesn't give the units pool cars. The Districts actually have priority when it comes to pool cars.
3/15/2010 08:23:00 PM
EXACTLY EINSTEIN, if someones partner takes off they ride three deep. Funny, even w/o someones partner taking off the patrol division is sendinding out one man cars on the 3rd and 1st watches. According to your theory, einstein when a beat car doesnt have a partner they should go out with another beat car? Oh no wait, im sorry only the elite get to to that. Why can't tru/msf go out as a one man unit when their partner takes off? Disband all these fucking units, put everybody in patrol and watch crime drop.
3/16/2010 04:35:00 PM
Didn't crime go down when they left patrol? That's what the stats say Homie. I know you don't care about stats. Why don't you ask the elite tac boys to be your partner when your both sans partner? Or how about one of the incident cars that are actually working the desk.
Oh yeah Junior, if your 99 you don't have to work the streets. I'm surprised a stud like you with your vast experience and knowledge didn't know that.
we need more high school babysitting
Anonymous said...
I work in Area 3. We were told that whenever we get a gun CALL THE GUN TEAM. I am just an average cop and got maybe five guns in the last two or three years. I never called the gun team. What the fuck for?
3/16/2010 02:03:00 PM
Anonymous said...
019 tact has more guns and guns with a head than the A/3 gun team over the past year. This is very sad. 019 is one of the slowest if not the slowest dist. in the city. Why does A/3 gun team exist? The north side districts are doing their own and dont need em
3/16/2010 02:50:00 PM
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Just a couple of thoughts to add here...
I would think the idea of having a GUN TEAM is to focus on those SELLING guns to the gangbangers or running them into Illinois or even Cook county/City of Chicago ...whatever
My point is to get to the info necessary to uncover these felons you basically need LEVERAGE and that leverage stems from things like a "BAD CASE" on may have the shithead. Interviewing and making plays with the shit heads takes a lot of give and take and usually involves VERY AGGRESSIVE P/O's(a Dept. Red Flag nowadays?).
Actually having Class X charges or even Federal charges even violations of Parole...that would force the hand of the shithead whether through his lawyer or not to GIVE UP the name/house/number/..etc. is essential. therefore one must work VERY AGGRESSIVELY maybe getting CR.#'s like we used to..
Are there really p/o's out there that actually understand this? Does anyone want to blemish their records anymore? Are there enough of them experienced even in this area of police work with 3 yrs or so on the job?
I think NOT but they are assigned to these types of units that operate under soft bosses that never did this stuff nor have the balls to follow through without worrying of career suicide with a bad arrest or beef or law suit.
We are not indemnified by the City 100% hell we aren't even backed up by our immediate supervisors 100%!
Then the worry the Dept. has about corruption...that stress alone is enough for most Deputies to pull the plugs on these types of units and filter the officers back to their units...Is that whats happenbing here?
A/3 is not alone in whether they need a gun team. I feel just because people work in A/2 or A/4 or A/1 it does not make them more qualified to work these shitheads for information either but the phone calls to get the spots are always there for them.
I can see the "G" trying to eliminate us more and more and moving in on these areas and maybe having a couple of our officers detailed over in the future. All for the FUTURE success of some government TASK FORCES and someone elses political agenda.
I feel Chicago is done due to the fear of the lawsuits and the corruption angles recently put upon our department over the last several years.
NOW : Its Curb to Curb blueboys and Dicks just respond after the fact...while the public sees us on patrol...and leave the big busts to the "G"! Thats seems what they want.
Times have changed...
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Someone should pull area fives gun team stats over the past year.Its rediculous.95% of the team come in with one baggers.Then theyll lock up a couple of guys with six rocks and the whole team goes on the paper.So the sgt walks in sees his whole teamon a simple dope pinch and doesnt even ask if they got a gun with the arrest which they never do,but they make their cort time.And this idiot sgt is still running the team. The team has as many lawsuits a month as they do arrests. Another sgt there wants the gun team and pulled the stats the sat team had like 80 bullshit arrests ,but 80 is a good number .The gun team had like 6and no guns.If they had a sgt that was a worker at one time and didnt put all his friends on the team they might be ok.But the sgt is a moron.Get rid of them yesterday
I truely think u are spineless to call someone an idiot on the blog instead in person. Why dont u grow a pair and tell us in person what u think and maybe if u had half a spine u would call my sgt a idiot in person but no you are coward and hide behind the blog to do ur dirty work. Maybe if u grew a pair u might be off mid night and on a team........... if u have any promblems about what i said u knew where our office is
Too funny reading some of this speculation crap! Really??? How about more watching out for one another and less worrying about some other units and what they have, do, don't do...Waaaaahh!! Be men (insert tough chicks here)
and deal!! Don't knock working cops regardless of where they work..thank God some of us are dumb enough to do it.
disband gun teams , tru ,msf and e.t.s district tactical teams should be in uniform unless they're working on a undercover assignment the 1st and 3rd watches need help now
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