Daley Defends; Quinn Dithers
Tasers have caused problems, but they do “less harm” than real bullets, Mayor Daley said today, defending the Chicago Police Department’s decision to dramatically expand the use of “stun guns.”
Daley said the decision to more than double the use of Tasers — and place one in every squad car — was designed to minimize injury and reduce liability caused by police shootings.
Taser International’s registered lobbyist is former Chicago Police Supt. Terry Hillard. The company’s $5 million contract runs through 2011.
Gov. Quinn wants to impose $503 million in cuts, affecting the current state work force and future retirees. The governor wants to save:
• $203 million by seeking employee furloughs, increasing how much state employees pay toward their health insurance and imposing travel restrictions.
• $300 million in changes to the pensions offered to state employees, though Quinn's administration declined to offer specific details about how this figure was compiled. Senate President John Cullerton (D-Chicago) expressed support Wednesday for boosting the state's standard retirement age of 60 and capping pension payouts.
- Facing potential bankruptcy, the board that governs the once flush-with-cash Kansas City school district is taking the unusual and contentious step of shuttering almost half its schools.
Administrators say the closures are necessary to keep the district from plowing through what little is left of the $2 billion it received as part of a groundbreaking desegregation case. The Kansas City school board narrowly approved the plan to close 29 out of 61 schools Wednesday night at a meeting packed with angry parents. The schools will close at the end of the school year.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
96 Comments:
You would think John Cullerton would be a friend of the police. What ever happened to his son crashing the state subsidized Jaguar with State Senate license plates into a garage in Beverly a few years ago? Wasn't he a 501 candidate? What ever happened to that? Oh yeah, 19P.
speaking of pensions.. daley for years looted ours for bad real estate deals for his nephew etc. when the economy was good he spent money on flower pots and olympic dreams instead of putting money in.
now he's crying poor and proposing RAISING THE AGE OF RETIREMENT, MAKING US CONTIBUTE MORE, CAPPING HOW MUCH ONE CAN COLLECT (so dont live too long) AND SCREWING THE FUTURE POLICE WITH NO PENSION AT ALL.
This was obvious to me from the start that it was about law suits not officer safety. When you hear them talk they always catch themselves and metion how "the officers will be safer." They usually say this after they mention that officers have another option over deadly force. The track record of Daley and the alderthieves and now J-fed has always been "who cares about the P.O.'s, they are just a star number that we will put on the wall."
As Han Solo once said "I have a bad feeling about this." I understand that our pension is protected by the state constitution but the city and state both continue to ignore the problems with the pension funds. I just can't help but think that by the time most of us retire there will far from enough cash to pay out what is owed or the pension system is going to be radically altered from what we know it as now. I really hope I'm wrong but I would suggest that everyone begins to take a look at their retirement plans and prepare for the worst. If you're not enrolled already I'd suggest enrolling in the 457B plan that's offered or open a Roth IRA, you really can't save too much for retirement. And if you haven't guessed, as usual the public is not on our side in this issue.
Kansas City must have a democratic machine as well!
The only one to blame for the mess that the state and city are in is POLITICIANS!!! For starters they are terrible business men. Having a mayor in power for 20 years and counting is a disaster for the city! Daley has spent and wasted billions and he has gone unchecked. Being mayor for as long as he has creates a dictator-like government and it's nothing but BAD! They have squandered and borrowed money from funds and pensions that they should have left alone. They keep feeding the entitlement crowd with freebee's just to get the votes and that is no good for the working man. VOTE THESE CROOKS OUT!
What needs to be done, but never will because of the entitlement free handout crowd democrate vote is, CUT THE FREE HANDOUTS!!!! I'm not talking about the working man that lost his job. I'm talking about the dead beat crack head drunks that stand around all day on the streets high and drunk. Every 1st of the month they all get govenrment checks and don't use the money to better themselves. NO, they use the money to get fucked up! This is a massive weight on the government! Many don't know about it.
The politicians who got us into these messes are making all kinds of plans to take away pensions and benefits from the average person who earned them and really don't seem to care about the unemployment numbers. It appears they have moved on to planning on using that money to create more beaurocracies. (state) merging juvenile justice administration with the Department of Children and Family Services - watch those contracts and consulting arrangements. (federal)$425 million to the Boys and Girls Clubs of America and the CEO makes nearly a million dollars already. 1,600 employees with the Ray La Hood led Department of Transportation are now making over $170,000 a year - a year and a half ago there was only 1 person with that salary.
And that is only what we know about. Don't you want to guess what the health care beaurocracy will be like?
Totally way off topic....but why the hell hasn't the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducted maybe the greatest band in the world, RUSH! Probably one of the most talented three musicians ever in music! After more than 30 years together and still writing and playing great music. Keep in mind there is only 3 members of the band that put together that great sound. In concert the three of them sound incredible! Each of these guys are at the top of their profession! There are so many silly bands in the RR Hall how could they be passed up? Excuse me now, I'm going to listen to the live version of "The Trees" then maybe Circumstances. Any RUSH fans out there? Schmitty?
What the hell happends to all that lottery money? Fuckin politicians.
STAND BY FOLKS........
Lets see: most of the squad car are crap, no bullets or targets for training, power test for carbine, but we get NEW tasers!
ANOTHER STEP TOWARDS DETROIT! Go Tasers just think of that when you get on a CTA bus - right we dont pay so who cares
time to eliminate welfare. free money is bullshit and doesn't work. "great society" my ass.
Not too long ago, much talk about retro checks. Now, maybe keep the job and keep the pension.
Well I for one would organize a group/groups to make sure that politicians would be included in this pension/insurance cut... starting with Daley and going straight up to the president. I would devote the rest of my life to it.
Daley, Quinn, and Federal Govt have their collective heads in the sand. It's going to be a rough summer, even if the economy actually starts to rebound.
Who cares if there is a pension just keep doin your job. What do you need a pension for you have a taser. Those things are badass.
These fools who are gonna stick it out for another percentage are gonna find there is no pension left.
When Edgar left the state pensions were doing ok...After Rod the bod and the dems took over things not so good...
And Daley is forking out millions of federal to get ex convicts jobs... no contract, shit equip. I almost puked
You neglected to say that they once had 45000 students and now have 17000. with the same amount of employees and buildings. This is a good choice to close and get rid on employees that do not have to do their job.
Schools closing? Look at shitcago schools,daley in spending billions of "our money" building more new schools, most for the illegals kids WTF! The cps system headed by luberman is in a shamble, animals everyday fighting,graduation rate of less than 40% and quinn wants more for the "poor children" fuck them,sorry how about if we have no more room your kid cannot go free? Where does it say the homeowners have to keep funding this cps toilet?
You heard it here first,the pension if you have less than 10 years on CPD you will be converted to a 401K plan watch and see!
All public employees had better prepare themselves for cuts in wages and pensions. It's inevitable.
OT- J.P. Weis is now a listed as a defendant in at least 17 (seventeen) Cook county civil lawsuits.God knows how many federal lawsuits or lawsuits pending. He must be the most sued officer in the history of the Chicago Police Department.
How much is this costing the city of Chicago????
UPDATE: J-Prick is also listed as the Plainiff in ten (10)Cook County Chancery Court cases against his own phony bull shit Police Board when they reinstated officers after he wanted them fired. No wonder you cannot get a fair shake at the police board anymore. Now they just fire you in the face of evidence to the contrary.
The FOP should stop wasting our legal fund because again J-Fool has used his influence and the city's deep pockets to taint the already clout driven discipinary process. BOYCOTT THE POLICE BOARD.
Go straight to Circuit Court when faced with separation for bullshit.
If there was any doubt that he came here to ruin morale and destroy the police department at ANY expense to the taxpayers of Chicago now you can see the facts at the COOK COUNTY Curcuit Court online docket site,
198.173.15.34/?section=CASEINFOPage&CASEINFOPage=2400
I would like to know how many of the mayors cronies and/or former police bosses own stock or have owned stock in taser corporation. Come on Pam Zekman do a little investigating...
If King Shorshanks has his way we all will be carrying TASERS only no weapons.
From what I see and hear King Shortshanks is going to declaire very shortly and in the NEWS that our pension and the Fire pension is a great burdon and need to stop all contibutions immediately! For years he has delayed and even forgone any contributions for planters and street improvements, contracts for insiders and family. This has left the pensions in such dire condition, we NEED to band together and wage a propganda war as a whole young and old alike, differances aside, THIS ALL OF OUR FUTURE AND YOUR RETIREMENT SECURITY AND THE SPIN HE'S GOING TO TELL IS GOING TO MAKE US LOOK LIKE MAJOR THIEFS. We need to start getting the message to the taxpayers that the King is not their friend and the all enternal savior he wants us to believe!
Destroy your census. Daley gave the city away already.
The people that say that 401K type of public pensions are correct for future pensions.
That said--The City has to do it's part and actually fund their part (unlike they do now) of the current type pension.
It is a fact of life that pensions like we have are no longer viable.
That said--Daley better not fuck with mine and the one I have paid into for 25 years. I upheld my end of the bargain, they will have to uphold their part.
My deferred took a fucking beat down the last couple of years, I need my Police Pension Fund pension.
The Gold Braid must end, in the old days, an exempt went out at a current Captain's pension, the days of working 3 years as a gold star and boosting your pension by 30-40 grand a year more have to end.
O.T.
Aunt Bea is strutting around HQ like a Peacock, since the de-balling of J-Fed. She now knows she is untouchable.
She said she wants to be call Aunt BeaCock!!!
Hey, they already took away my social security credits, now this. Time for FOP to stand up and picket this mess. I'm sure half the dept would protest if they want to take more of our due retirement.
These are all good things.
Government is broke and is shrinking.
The best thing that ever happened to the city of Chicago was the housing bust. No more bullshit no-money-down, no-employment-required mortgage loans. And the best thing that ever happened to this miserable state is the recession. Borrowing capped + no money in = less spending.
If you have less than 10 years in (i.e. not vested in the pension), you had better start padding deferred comp because you about to get screwed. More than 10 years and fully vested? You're golden. The Illinois State Constitution and Federal Law guarantee your pension.
If Kansas city can close half it's schools did they really need them ?
So much waste and stealing in government.
**OFF TOPIC**:
SCC, PLEASE LOOK INTO HOW THE COURT SECTION IS PLAYING WITH TIME DUE SLIPS TO LOWER THE OVERTIME. I WORK FIRST WATCH GOT OFF AT 0730 HAD A 0900 COURT CALL AND THEY CHANGED MY SLIP TO AN EXT OF TOUR INSTEAD OF COURT. THEY PULLED OUT AN INTER DEPARTMENT MEMO THAT MOYER PUT OUT INSTRUCTING THEM ON HOW AND WHAT TO DO. I HAVE AN EMAIL YOU CAN CONTACT ME AT THETRUTH12350@yahoo.com I can give you more updates.
i think ''68 million'' should be put BACK into our pension fund first. we should also shutter/vote out all of the illinois political wastoids. we didnt mismanage our pension fund...you did! you neglected pension obligations while spending money on other projects. money must burn holes in your pockets. you treated pension funds ''like a pyramid scam'' and now we and the other taxpayers are on the hook. barry-quinn and da mayo couldnt manage your local grocery store...
Perhaps with all these budget shortfalls they should start cutting at the top. How about cutting some congresmen, aldermen, senators, commissioners, etc.... Downsize government.
Bankruptcy and unfunded pension obligations. The blueshirts will be reaping the benefits of DECADES of inaction by our FLOP leaders. Good times in 2018.
Phat Phil, Terry and their band of 400 retired exempt thieves are laughing their asses off, thinking they stumped the chumps and got out while the getting was good with a shitload of irrevocable pension benefits. And so much double dipping by clouted CPD pensioners that the pension board has started handing out comdoms.
Capts. and above are praying 4 Gawd the pension rules won't be changed, cause getting a Lts. pension with no comp. time payout would be a bummer after all those years of loyalty. Once the ink on the new contract is dry, talk about an unprecedented exodus from planet clout.
The real joke will be on the blueshirts. Bankruptcy by the state and city next summer = 50% pension caps for all current and future retirees. Coming to a CPD near you soon -- summah '11.
Off topic: is time drawing near for a one year anniversary of our (in)famous March on City Hall (last April 2nd)? Are we ready to do it again, show that we have no confidence in WEISel/Masters, and Shortshanks?
Are we ready to do it again? This year, 02 April falls on a Friday.
Plans need to drawn up now for a second celebration. What are we going to do? And the big question everyone should be asking themselves is, has WEISel/Masters done anything in the past year to make you feel any more trust and confidence in them than you did in the previous year?
I think we all know the answer to that one. Maybe Bobby L can be the Honorary 'Grand Marshall' of this
reunion!
WHERE'S OUR HOPE???
WHERE'S OUR CHANGE???
http://www.detnews.com/article/20100312/AUTO01/3120415/Ford--Police-Interceptor-is--ultimate--cop-car
This could be our new patrol vehicles. Production will be in Chicago.
Rumor mill 52 federal inditements????
As I look around the station and even when I read this blog I've noticed an alarming trend. Sure our equipment sucks, the bosses are rats, and morale is at an all time low. The filthy stench of clout fills HQ and all the pet units. But these issues arent even the scariest. Its the trend of 3 year, 4 year, and dare I say 5 year wonders! There used to be a time when an officer got that 3 year mark he could leave TRU and hold his head high. Now with the lack of hiring there are few 2 year wonders in the department. This is a precious resource that is drying up before our eyes. We need more hiring to lift the "wonder" burden from the backs of these young officers and let them move on in their careers.
FYI: start heading to the uniform stores R&D is going to approve the use of navy blue academy gym sweat pants for use by all inside personnel. Dugan decided that sitting all day in 80/20's causes unecessary chafing. This alone will reduce medical use by 18% Keep up the good work !
the state of illinois should be declared a disaster area--- it doesn't matter who the governor is, the state is broke and it didn't just happen overnight--- the state owes almost 1 billion dollars alone just to the statewide school system... raising taxes may help in the short term but it will drive more businesses out of the state in the long term... anyone notice all the cars driving around with michigan plates on them--- they are coming here because the state of michigan has unemployment fast approaching 20 percent....
This may not be the correct place to post this video. Just needed to remind officers, think and act properly. Remember, everybody is watching! Our actions are viewed by more than just the department and might end you career.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1KJcnNShW0&feature=player_embedded
You guys still want the teachers' contract? Scc?
OT
Check out this healthcare video. See what we are in for!! God help us all!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBaSP31Be8
We the people have got to quit voting Democratic in this state.The Dems are notorious for aggressively raising taxes, to suit their agenda and at the cost of the working man, people please WAKE-UP!!!
A little off topic but:
Has anyone heard our asshat Mayor talking about the pension funds recently? He said the huge deficits in these underfunded pension funds shouldn't be the taxpayers problem. He says it's time to "think outside the box" regarding the pension problem including ideas such as raising the retirement age from 50 to a higher age or else implementing a two tiered pension system with new hires contributing to a 401k.
Someone needs to ask this idiot how these pensions got into such bad shape. It certainly isn't because the officers haven't been contributing their fair share. After all the proper ammount we contribute is calculated and taken directly out of our checks. Maybe it had something to do with the City not contributing their fair share to the fund. Maybe it has something to do with Ritchie's nephew being allowed to use our pension fund to take money from. In any event it's not our fault it's the City's fault but who do you think will suffer from the City's mismanagement? We will of course.
I've been on over 20 years and have paid plenty into the pension fund over the years. Now this idiot is playing fast and loose with our retirement funds. I'll bet Ritchie and his alderthieves never have to worry about the funding of their pension funds. The public needs to wake up and vote this idiot out of office. He's the one who almost single handedly has run this ship aground yet we're the ones who have to "tighten our belts" and "feel the pain".
Face it, we live in a wellfare state. Both parties have for years catered to those bottom feeders who are either in this country illegally or who are here and not willing to work. This state has reached the tipping point where the amount of freeloaders sucking on the goernment tit has outweighed the number paying into this broke dick system. Anyone with the means to flee this state should. Move to a state with no state income tax and a minimal illegal population.
Remember when Hoffman got a federal subpeona for our pension records? What ever happened with that investigation? All this talk of pension trouble makes me curious how much Shortshank's merry band of thieves have raped us for in the last 20 or so years.
Wage cut = output cut.
I guess the handgun ban is coming to an end at the right time because once they tell me my pension is gone all u good citizens are gonna need your guns.
You people better wise up and start voting these assholes out. No one to blame but yourself.
Chicago Uses $16 Million In Federal Economic Stimulus Funds To Create More Than 650 'Green' Jobs For The Formerly-Incarcerated
Yet no money for its police force!
OT:
New Ford Police Vehicle
http://jalopnik.com/5491850/2012-ford-police-interceptor-the-crown-vics-robocop-replacement
Daley is the teflon con
one step ahead of the feds,
his friends make money and keep quiet instead; Wanna be stitches end up dead
For we all know to speak against the king of corruption and the crook of cook county is political suicide and banished into political oblivion!
Don't fool yourself, your pension is not saved by the state constitution. The state constitution only gives you a contractual right to sue should the pension board default on your payments. It does not mean the state, or city, or county, can't seek bankruptcy protection from all the people it defaults on. Bankruptcy is exclusively federal. The state constitution does not trump it. And nothing prevents a municipality from going to bankruptcy court to pay it's creditors (ie, you the pensioner) X cents on the dollar.
Lets get rid of the state legislator pension! Cut their office expenses.
Legislation to ban double dipping on state pensions. 1 only not multiple.
No more free tuition for politicians constituents!
IF YOU WANT TO BE A POLITICIAN AND SERVE THE PEOPLE THEN ACCEPT MINIMUM WAGE AS A LEGISLATOR AND HAVE A FULL TIME JOB TO SUPPORT YOURSELF.
SERVE THE PEOPLE IS THE KEY!!!
NOT SERVE YOURSELF!!!
VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBANTS!!!
So here I am trying to figure on who to vote for...in the Sgt. union Presidential election
...and I am reading these WEBMAILS on the staton computer I am getting,as to how F'd up it is to send my vote directly into the PBPA and that you can take a maglite and see who is voting for who as you can see thru the envelope ...I wonder...Why are we such gullible idiots?
Typical city ...typical police dept. ....typical everything..
Why even vote? I 'd rather not have them know my opinions..
Boy are we messed up over at the union...
Signed
A Jammed up Sgt.
we are in deep shit. Kirk who is a Republican, is my mothers neighbor who says they have had serious meetings with other Republicans who think if they go after city state employees they will get the tea party votes he wants to do away with pensions.
Speaking of poor people, it must not have affected the director of "human resources". story is she is in a foriegn country buying a new car, must be nice, especially when the civilians in her department are barely making enough to survive thanks to furlough days. Does she have to pay county taxes on that? If you ever have dealt with her she is an arrogant POS. And i hope she gets slammed on her lawsuits for dumping certain sworn, for which she claimed cut backs, then brings a Capt to a Lt spot who in turns fills the vacancies with her own people.
Every single city employee needs to talk to every single relative and friend and vote this asshole out of office!
We have worked and dutifully paid into our fund and the city has not paid their fair share!
Much like the federal government and social security, they use it for their general fund and spend on there pals not funding the liabilities.
Greatest country in the world is being turned into a banana republic!!!
This fiscal disaster is the reason the politicians don't want you to have a gun. You might go nuts because our leaders are slowly bleeding us dry and we might take the most extreme of measures.
Kansas City must have a democratic machine as well!
This has nothing to do with Democrat or Republicans. Repeat after me they all want to take your pension. Remember what John McCain said at the convention no unions no pensions. He is a right to work state??????? (People read) stop the Rush Limbaugh BS he is laughing all the way to the bank.
Anonymous said...
Totally way off topic....but why the hell hasn't the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducted maybe the greatest band in the world, RUSH! Probably one of the most talented three musicians ever in music! After more than 30 years together and still writing and playing great music. Keep in mind there is only 3 members of the band that put together that great sound. In concert the three of them sound incredible! Each of these guys are at the top of their profession! There are so many silly bands in the RR Hall how could they be passed up? Excuse me now, I'm going to listen to the live version of "The Trees" then maybe Circumstances. Any RUSH fans out there? Schmitty?
3/12/2010 04:46:00 AM
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Way off topic, but I feel ya'!! Been to the RnR Hall on several occasions and am still dumbfounded as to why they're not in! Was fortunate enough to catch them maybe 15 times and have NEVER been disappointed.
1.8 million to renovate the city website and 16 million towards an ex con job program. But still no money for the CPD or CFD.
Once again, soft on Crime Daley, worrying more about the Criminal Felon thugs running rampant in Crookago, than the Cops in his own City. What a fuckin pussy.
Max-out age for Police, Fire , City Workers should be 65, not 63, as people are living longer and can work more, for Daley, so he can sit on his little fat-ass and steal, and jack-off excessively, just like he's always done. Always more for Him, of course.
Totally way off topic....but why the hell hasn't the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducted maybe the greatest band in the world, RUSH! Probably one of the most talented three musicians ever in music! After more than 30 years together and still writing and playing great music. Keep in mind there is only 3 members of the band that put together that great sound. In concert the three of them sound incredible! Each of these guys are at the top of their profession! There are so many silly bands in the RR Hall how could they be passed up? Excuse me now, I'm going to listen to the live version of "The Trees" then maybe Circumstances. Any RUSH fans out there? Schmitty?
Because of Getty Lee, the ugliest old-fuck musician in rock, shit bassist, with the worst singing voice EVER, you fuckin Dope...
Hey, they already took away my social security credits, now this. Time for FOP to stand up and picket this mess. I'm sure half the dept would protest if they want to take more of our due retirement.
WAKE UP, DOLT, FOP IS USELESS...
SCC- any word on the attendance at the last clusterfuck meeting? I've looked, but can't find an answer. Thanks
Speaking of sending somebody somebody sent........truly amazing.
Another way to fuck us over. Why did you shoot that man, officer, when you could have tasered him instead????
Because the motherfucking piece of shit was pointing a gun at me you fucking moron!!!!!
Anonymous said...
Totally way off topic....but why the hell hasn't the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducted maybe the greatest band in the world, RUSH! Probably one of the most talented three musicians ever in music! After more than 30 years together and still writing and playing great music. Keep in mind there is only 3 members of the band that put together that great sound. In concert the three of them sound incredible! Each of these guys are at the top of their profession! There are so many silly bands in the RR Hall how could they be passed up? Excuse me now, I'm going to listen to the live version of "The Trees" then maybe Circumstances. Any RUSH fans out there? Schmitty?
3/12/2010 04:46:00 AM
Geddy, Alex and Neil are the greatest. I agree with your post entirely. I'm a die hard Rush fan.
Here's the thing:
1. It's the fucking politicians. Everyone participating in both the Republican and Democratic political parties are either the manipulators or the fools being manipulated.
And that's a fact, jack.
2. The commonly held belief is that political parties exist so that citizens of like mind can band together and, as a larger force, influence the policies and actions of our governments, both local, statewide and national, in the creation of our governments' policies and laws, the application and interpretation of said policies and laws, the financing, via taxations, of those policies and laws, and the adjudications of any and all disputes that may occur within the day to day experiences of us citizens living our lives and being affected by said policies and laws.
This belief is not shared by the politicians, or their co-conspirators, of either dominant political party.
Instead, both the Republican and Democratic party politicians consider the above belief to be one of several tools which they find very useful in executing their true agendas, namely, increasing, by whatever means necessary or available, their own wealth, and the power which said wealth provides.
For the politicians, and their co-conspirators, there is no such thing as accepting an honest day's wage for an honest day's work. To them, those who believe in this way of living their lives are both fools and fodder.
3. This, above all other reasons, is why professional politicians, and the political parties which they use so effectively to manipulate the public, both those who still vote, and those who've given up on voting, are exactly the wrong people to vote for, exactly the wrong people to believe in, exactly the wrong people to possess the powers of elected office and exactly the wrong people to allow ourselves to be persuaded to follow.
Our founding fathers knew the nature of this beast all too well.
If we all fail to study, anew, their wisdom, their foresight and heroic attempt to create a framework as resistant to the activities of that beast as could be conceived, and to act as our forefathers had hopes we would, we will become, once again, the effective slaves of those whose loyalty is to the nature of that beast.
Register to vote.
Vote in every election.
Participate in working to nominate non-politician candidates.
Work your asses off.
Vote for non-politician candidates.
Stop being the fools which the politician beasts depend upon you being.
I just turned 50 and have 24 years on. Now I'm faced with pulling the plug for fear of them reducing my pension? I spent 24 years doing dog-ass work, putting up with tons of bullshit, and CR's and lawsuits because I was a good copper? WTF? Now, now, after all these years they want to take away what they promised me?
If you are interested in sending your Congressman AND all of the Blue Dog Dems an Email opposing Obama Care, go to the link below. All you have to do is fill out the info.
Please forward to anyone you can think of that may be interested.
http://www.capitolconnect.com/freeourhealthcarenow/
SCC, PLEASE LOOK INTO HOW THE COURT SECTION IS PLAYING WITH TIME DUE SLIPS TO LOWER THE OVERTIME. I WORK FIRST WATCH GOT OFF AT 0730 HAD A 0900 COURT CALL AND THEY CHANGED MY SLIP TO AN EXT OF TOUR INSTEAD OF COURT. THEY PULLED OUT AN INTER DEPARTMENT MEMO THAT MOYER PUT OUT INSTRUCTING THEM ON HOW AND WHAT TO DO. I HAVE AN EMAIL YOU CAN CONTACT ME AT THETRUTH12350@yahoo.com I can give you more updates.
First I would like to know who is they and then which court branch you went to because that slip was improperly entered. The rule is if you have court 2 hours BEFORE your start your tour it is an extension of tour. You should bring this to a supervisors attention.
OT - The e-learning site now has a new course for sucessful test taking. Who thinks of this stuff? Make more sergeants and detectives!
Totally way off topic....but why the hell hasn't the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducted maybe the greatest band in the world, RUSH! Probably one of the most talented three musicians ever in music! After more than 30 years together and still writing and playing great music. Keep in mind there is only 3 members of the band that put together that great sound. In concert the three of them sound incredible! Each of these guys are at the top of their profession! There are so many silly bands in the RR Hall how could they be passed up? Excuse me now, I'm going to listen to the live version of "The Trees" then maybe Circumstances. Any RUSH fans out there? Schmitty?
Yeah, you're way off topic, but absolutely correct. They're the best - have been since the day they started. To see them play live is simply awesome, and there is no drummer out there better than Neil Peart. They should have been inducted a long time ago, but they probably don't care. I doubt they were ever concerned with being recognized, just with being great musicians. 2112...the best.
"Someone needs to ask this idiot how these pensions got into such bad shape. It certainly isn't because the officers haven't been contributing their fair share. After all the proper ammount we contribute is calculated and taken directly out of our checks. Maybe it had something to do with the City not contributing their fair share to the fund."
"I'll bet Ritchie and his alderthieves never have to worry about the funding of their pension funds."
Amen, brothers!
Anonymous said...
Well I for one would organize a group/groups to make sure that politicians would be included in this pension/insurance cut... starting with Daley and going straight up to the president. I would devote the rest of my life to it.
3/12/2010 07:15:00 AM
Go ahead and start it. I'll join you. The facts are that aldermen and state politicians can work a few years in a position and be entitled to years of pension at top dollar. Now that all the money has been MISMANAGED and pissed away they want to make you and me pay for it. Well if they want to reform pension, then make sure to add that you have to be in a position for 20+ years to get a pension.
I bet if they put that regulation in place these politicians would magically find money to keep their cash cow retirements viable. Its sickening.
Anonymous said...
You would think John Cullerton would be a friend of the police. What ever happened to his son crashing the state subsidized Jaguar with State Senate license plates into a garage in Beverly a few years ago? Wasn't he a 501 candidate? What ever happened to that? Oh yeah, 19P.
3/12/2010 12:21:00 AM
Cullerton just another polircal 19th ward hack! What a jagoff how much is in his campaign account?
Register to vote.
Vote in every election.
Participate in working to nominate non-politician candidates.
Work your asses off.
Vote for non-politician candidates.
Stop being the fools which the politician beasts depend upon you being.
3/12/2010 09:04:00 PM
AMEN! Guys we ALL have to REGISTER TO VOTE AND THEN VOTE! I agree with the above post. Democrat or Republican makes no difference. These career politicians are not doing us ANY good. Neither party is shit. Not shit. The PEOPLE not the politicians, are being taxed, forced into unemployment or furloughed, higher medical, reduced pensions, etc., etc. All these fucks got us into this shit.
Anonymous said...
Totally way off topic....but why the hell hasn't the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inducted maybe the greatest band in the world, RUSH! ....
3/12/2010 04:46:00 AM
T.G.?
Yeah, you're way off topic, but absolutely correct. They're the best - have been since the day they started. To see them play live is simply awesome, and there is no drummer out there better than Neil Peart. They should have been inducted a long time ago, but they probably don't care. I doubt they were ever concerned with being recognized, just with being great musicians. 2112...the best.
3/12/2010 11:20:00 PM
Rush was given the Order of Canada because of their contributions to Canadian life and music. They were the first Rock N Roll band out of Canada to make it big in the US market. They do want to get inducted in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. They have been overlooked and it's mystifying.
I've been going to thier concerts faithfully for 30 years and they are always an awesome experience.
"The e-learning site now has a new course for sucessful [sic] test taking." - 11:03 PM
The course is also in full compliance with "the Chicago Way". It's called FELLATIO 101.
♣♣♣Time to wash down that corned beef and cabbage with double shots of Jamesons and Old Bushmills plus a few pints of Guinness.♣♣♣
Fuck da WEISel and beware the Ides of March (Monday).
REMEMBER HAYMAKERGATE!
FREE COZZI!
to add to 8.17am..........and you can't hear for a day or so after a Rush concert,,,,,,I'm old enough to have been to two Led Zepplin shows (at the Stadium) and they were just as loud as the Zep.
Don't fool yourself, your pension is not saved by the state constitution. The state constitution only gives you a contractual right to sue should the pension board default on your payments. It does not mean the state, or city, or county, can't seek bankruptcy protection from all the people it defaults on. Bankruptcy is exclusively federal. The state constitution does not trump it. And nothing prevents a municipality from going to bankruptcy court to pay it's creditors (ie, you the pensioner) X cents on the dollar.
3/12/2010 06:15:00 PM
You are wrong.
The fact that the Illinois State Constitution protects your contractual rights means that the State of Illinois cannot pass a law reducing promised pension payments when the employee is already vested. Future employees and non-vested employees are another story.
On top of this, Federal ERISA law protects all employee pensions, 401K, and other employee benefits (health, vacation, etc...). This prevents both private and public employers from denying benefits accrued by an employee. There are additional federal laws protecting public employee pensions.
Private employees can get screwed if a private company declares bankrupcy. BUT, a state CANNOT declare bankrupcy. The US Constitution holds the federal government responsible for all state debts.
Typical city ...typical police dept. ....typical everything..
Why even vote? I 'd rather not have them know my opinions..
Boy are we messed up over at the union...
Signed
A Jammed up Sgt.
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Just jump off a bridge. It's your only option.
But, on your way down, try to think about your ancestors who crossed oceans, mountians, forests, deserts, and valleys to seek out a better life for themselves, burying their children and other loved ones along the way, while still perservering.
And right before you splat all over the ground, think of what a disappointment you must be to them.
look whats going on in greece,that shit is coming to the usa real soon.the working stiffs will not sit and let the banks continue to rape us,standby people,soon very soon!
Private employees can get screwed if a private company declares bankrupcy. BUT, a state CANNOT declare bankrupcy. The US Constitution holds the federal government responsible for all state debts.
3/13/2010 12:08:00 PM
Which is why Daley and all the other politicians would LOVE to privatize everything!
Anonymous said...
The only one to blame for the mess that the state and city are in is POLITICIANS!!! For starters they are terrible business men.
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But they always make sure they get well taken care of in multiple pensions & way too many raises that they do little or nothing to deserve.
I feel like I'm in purgatory now having to work until I'm 55 with the assmites in my department.
Cullerton just another polircal 19th ward hack! What a jagoff how much is in his campaign account?
3/13/2010 12:12:00 AM
His crib is near Blago's crib. That ain't no 19th Ward.
Boy are we messed up over at the union...
Signed
A Jammed up Sgt.
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Just jump off a bridge. It's your only option.
But, on your way down, try to think about your ancestors who crossed oceans, mountians, forests, deserts, and valleys to seek out a better life for themselves, burying their children and other loved ones along the way, while still perservering.
And right before you splat all over the ground, think of what a disappointment you must be to them.
3/13/2010 12:14:00 PM
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PERSERVERING........?
MOUNTIANS.........?
I think your grammar went SPLAT!
Let's roll. It's time to clean up the town. Vote for the non connected candidates. FOP, you better get this one right and come out with a sheet with the candidates for everyone to vote and mail it to the world.
It's time. Do it.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
You would think John Cullerton would be a friend of the police. What ever happened to his son crashing the state subsidized Jaguar with State Senate license plates into a garage in Beverly a few years ago? Wasn't he a 501 candidate? What ever happened to that? Oh yeah, 19P.
3/12/2010 12:21:00 AM
Cullerton just another polircal 19th ward hack! What a jagoff how much is in his campaign account?
3/13/2010 12:12:00 AM
The Allen/Cullerton confab is from the Northwest Side's 38th Ward.
Don't give the 19th Ward Southwest Siders credit for this mope.
PERSERVERING........?
MOUNTIANS.........?
I think your grammar went SPLAT!
3/14/2010 08:13:00 PM
Don't you mean spelling, grammar boy.
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