Arbitration Decision Today (UPDATE)
And an interesting admission from the people who keep track of this stuff:
We're going to try to keep the readership informed as the day goes on. Obviously, the percentages are going to be the biggest news. Here's a couple of links that might help out:
- After going nearly three years without a contract, Chicago police officers expect to learn Friday how much of a raise they’ll get when an arbitrator releases his decision.
Officials with both Mayor Richard Daley’s administration and the Fraternal Order of Police said they expect to receive the decision by 8 a.m. Friday. Both sides said they plan to brief reporters later in the day.
Police have been working without a contract since the end of June 2007. The matter went to an independent arbitrator last year after negotiations broke down.
Although the arbitration technically only applies to rank-and-file officers, lieutenants and captains will get the same raise because of clauses in their recently-approved contracts.
Police also are expected to get back pay as part of the decision. City Hall has set aside $70 million to cover the costs of the decision and a similar one expected for the city’s firefighters, said Laurence Msall, president of the Civic Federation, a government budget watchdog.
We're going to try to keep the readership informed as the day goes on. Obviously, the percentages are going to be the biggest news. Here's a couple of links that might help out:
- FOP Current Updates - FOP SITE DOWN! Try this stripped down link here
- Five Frank Retro Calculator - hopefully, they're updating their calculator.
After it's all said and done, the only question remaining is when does the City Council approve it? Or whether or not they try to delay implementation.
We imagine they'll forgo consideration at the May meeting claiming Beale has to put his committee together and read the decision and get his marching orders from Shortshanks. That means June at the earliest for approval. Raises won't hit until 01 July, meaning the 16 July check. Retro by August? September? Last time the Arbitrator set a date by which check had to be issued or the City would have to start paying interest on monies held. We expect that might be in the decision and the City will take every one of those days to issue checks.
UPDATE: OFFICERS SCREWED. Again. And again.
We imagine they'll forgo consideration at the May meeting claiming Beale has to put his committee together and read the decision and get his marching orders from Shortshanks. That means June at the earliest for approval. Raises won't hit until 01 July, meaning the 16 July check. Retro by August? September? Last time the Arbitrator set a date by which check had to be issued or the City would have to start paying interest on monies held. We expect that might be in the decision and the City will take every one of those days to issue checks.
UPDATE: OFFICERS SCREWED. Again. And again.
- Rank-and-file Chicago police officers will get a raise that is significantly less than the one Mayor Richard Daley pulled off the negotiating table last year under an arbitrator’s decision released this morning, a source familiar with the decision said.
- The raises average 2 percent a year for five years. That's less than the 3.2 percent a year for five years that Mayor Richard Daley pulled off the negotiating table in March 2009. That offer had been on the table for a year, but the Fraternal Order of Police was trying to get more. FOP President Mark Donahue declined to comment, saying he would speak at a 3 p.m. news conference.
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off topic i just want to say to all of the retirees congratulations... only 21 more years for me..uuuggghhhh. collect those checks and stay healthy, happy and forget about this job but not about the people
Can anyone tell me what's in the contract regarding the cost of medical premimums for those who retired 2-4 yrs ago. I heard that those of us in that time period might pay only what the active members pay instead of this high ass premimum we pay now.
Here's to hoping you don't get fucked raw like we dispatchers did at contract time.
daley and his scum have no respect for first responders,kiss my ass shortshanks!
BEND OVER HERE IT COMES!!!!!!
You guys are going to get hammered... trust me... should have taken the 16% over five years
I want to personally thank Mayor Daley and all members of the City Council for valuing us and the work we do for this grateful city.
FOP reps said the City Council doesn't have to approve this contract. The city agreed that the arbitrators decision is binding. Anyone know if that's true or not?
Anonymous said...
Can anyone tell me what's in the contract regarding the cost of medical premimums for those who retired 2-4 yrs ago. I heard that those of us in that time period might pay only what the active members pay instead of this high ass premimum we pay now.
4/16/2010 02:57:00 AM
There isn't going to be any change for you. FOP doesn't negotiate for people who retired years ago they negotiate for active members.
richie's BLACK FRIDAY, coming soon to a major municipality near you.... richie will come out swinging, trying to paint the police department in a negative light---- all the problems the city has are because of the cpd, it has nothing to do with nepotism or cronyism......
By the time this is posted, the arbitrator's decision should be announced.
It sucks to have to go through this every fucking contract.
And now Beale to take over the police & fire committee.
Alderman Beale before you start throwing stones, you better put your facts straight, but oh, wait! You are a politician and you don't know how to do that.
Here are my "facts" that I believe:
THERE ARE TOO MANY ALDERMAN!!!! You want to save the city money, Beale? Then eliminate half of the city council, their offices, staff and slush funds. The citizens would be well served by 25 alderman!
Another fact, tell you constituents how much you make for your PART-TIME job. Are you one of the $103,000.00 guys or a $110,000.00 PART-TIMER. This fact puts your PART-TIME salary above that of every FULL-TIME police officer,
and sergeant.
Here's a third fact for you, the vast majority of us in our real estate taxes contribute a sizable portion to the city coffers and consequently, to your PART-TIME salary of over $100,000.00.
Final fact, watch for the police and fire to meet your every move that works against us one level higher then you.
As for the arbitrator's decision, I hope there is a great deal of good news in it. The rank-and-file had had it with the politics of this process and a I don't thing a bad decision would be a good omen.
Not a cop.
Isn't there a provision in the contract on how many days they have to pay you or there is interest? I know there is one in the contract that the CFD has with the city. I hope you guys don't get screwed because we all deserve to get at least what all other city employees got if not better.
Im thinking it cant be a good thing that I tried getting on to FOP website 3 separate times at 830am and it said service unavailable. Im just hoping they didnt get such bad news that Donahue cleaned out his office and JFLED town before they could update the website!!!!
Well this will decide wether I write any parkers or movers for teh rest of my career. If the city is not willing to pay me and my fellow officers for their service, then not one person should give the city any revenue. Remember locking up joe for a bag of weed doesnt generate anything , parker movers, impounds do. So to everyone out there if they dont give you 200 to 300 extra a onth thenask yourself why are you giving them 500 per impound. For some peolpe it might be wortht to stay opn their units, thinking that they someday get a promotion. Remember clout rulles everything, you can be the baddest mother fucker out there and it wont mean shit.
I can't wait to pay next years tax rate on the retro check. Under new tax rate if you and your life partner make over $200,000 your fucked.
04/16/2010 02:57 am
Under the new commie care everyone's premimums are going up.
PAY ME!!!!
Hope the city did not do a good job at hiding all that money.
Who will draw the pictures for Beale so he can understand the decision?
http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/2166270,cop-raises-ruling-041610.article
Sun-Times is stating we got shafted! They're calling it a "huge win" for the city. nice
10% over five years? Disgusting.
10% over five years. 6.5 retro. Bella is done as is the whole Citywide team. The offered 16.1 off the bat.
6.5% ????????
2% a year???? I take it back. No contact cards on Saturday. SCC am I missing something? When was 16% offered and when did we turn it down?? Was I in a coma? Do they actually believe the crap they give to the corrupt media. Is there any news source left that's trustworthy? SLOW DOWN!! Alderidiots voted themselves 6% raise per year. I am not......NOT!!!! doing shit!!! Fuck you Daley Fuck you alderidiots Fuck you Weiss Fuck you FOP I answer my calls and that's it!! No more proactive police. Make Daley the King of the murder capital of the Country.
Holy shit we got FUCKED!!!!!!!!
We are getting less than what was previously offered by the CITY!!!!!
Check suntimes- it's out. We got screwed. Fran Spielman has it out before FLOP!
I hope Donahue is ready to leave his post, what a disgrace.
2% per year FUCK THIS CITY
2% over 5 years, chicagobreakingnews has it. That really sucks.
This is what I was told by a reliable source 10% over 5 years 6.5% will be retro no health care increases. Take it to the bank> Blue for life.
Chicago’s rank and file police officers would get a 6.5 retroactive pay raise dating back to July 2007 and 3.5 percent going forward to 2012, under a contract handed down Friday by an independent arbitrator. The arbitration ruling was viewed as a “huge win” for the city and Chicago taxpayers — and a disappointment for police officers waiting three years for a new contract.
The Sun-Times as of 1000 hours.
The FOP did not have this as of the same time. Someone leaked this to the scum times
We just got screwed.
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2010/04/chicago-police-raises-to-average-2-percent-as-city-hall-wins-arbitration.html
Ruling made. 2.0% percent a year. Thanks a lot asshole. And to everyone out there that keeps working, this shows you how much you are appreciated. Stop writing movers and parkers retards. Everyone else in the city got their raises but police who put their life on the line don't get shit. I like how they are calling this a win for the city. fuck you mother fuckers.................................................................................................................................................
fuck you Daley....................................................................................................................................................................piece of corrupt shit.......................................................................................................
The sun times posted the story. We got screwed, no kiss, no foreplay, didn't even get a hot towel after they got done with us. I want a union that's not in Daleys pocket. FOP can kiss my ass.
nice fucking job FLOP....................................................................................
according to chiciagobreakingnews.com the city came out ahead. 2% raise a year for 5 years.
Suntimes said we turned down 16% but I thought the city pulled their offer to 0%
Just read in Sun-Times. 10% for 5 years. Congrats all! You assholes that come in with 10-20 parkers nightly go fuck yourselves. This shithole of a city will get no revenue from me. Mayor all smiles today, the fuckin midget.....
We need a new management team at FOP and that includes dumping Plienes!
fuck chicago.. fuck benn. fuck daley...fuck doing any work for this city anymore!!!!
10% what a joke!
10% over 5 years? What a slap in the face! Thanks Mark for the sell out right before retirement! Now do you believe me when i say get rid of the FLOP and these current trustees? What a joke. We gave up 16% and get 10%. For all you assholes out there still working, you better stop it. The city told you what they thought about you, now just answer your calls and don't give them any extra revenue! Remember the alderman, the mayor, and Hubberman all got big increases in pay! Fuck Them!!!!!!!
Suntimes.com has the verdict on the front page. Not good. . .
Just heard what the arbitrator ruled. Fuck the mayor, fuck the aldermen, fuck the citizens who hate us and fuck the arbitrator. What the fuck, fuck the union for not accepting the 16%. Fasten your seatbelts citizens and pastors. It's going to be a bumpy ride this summer and I don't give a fuck. I will continue to do nothing for all your fuckers. I will only back up my fellow officers.
Hey FOP members: U GONE!!!
http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/2166270,cop-raises-ruling-041610.article
Fucked again.
WELL BOYS AND GIRLS WE GOT FUCKED!!!!! DALEY WON!!! HOW MANY GOOD PEOPLE GOT KILLED LAST NIGHT??? WELL IT'S CHICAGO THE PEOPLE WILL KEEP VOTING FOR HIM !!!
THE COST OF LIVING GOES UP,TAXES AND HEALTH CARE. BUT WE ONLY GET 2%
now will the fop please file a lawsuit to get this bullshit residency requirement lifted?
CAN'T SEE ANY REAL POLICE WANTING TO PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LIFE AFTER THIS SLAP IN THE FACE!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK DALEY LET HIM CALL IN THE NATIONAL GUARDS
FOP is a joke. I say we go another route maybe IUPA. I swear these idiots need to be bounced.
fuck this city, fuck daley and fuck this dept.
We've updated our retro check estimator to reflect the arbitrator's decision.
At this time, the raise percentages haven't been officially announced, so we will continue to update the website if the information changes.
Please remember, we are not accountants; if you see something that looks incorrect, please let us know.
You can access the Retro Check Estimator here.
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2 FUCKING PERCENT A YEAR??! ARE THEY CRAZY? MAYOR DALEY, YOU SUCK! I'M GLAD I DO NOTHING ON THIS JOB~NO TICKETS, NO TRAFFIC STOPS, NOTHING, YOU PIECE OF SHIT MAYOR!
You all deserve a lot better than the way this city treats you.
I'm afraid that Chicago is a sinking ship and by the time it's bad enough for a public outcry it will be too late.
To all the morons that didnt think 16 percent was enough this is what you get. Who wouldnt want to get more? But the point is, is that it wasnt realistic. Now we end up with a raise that isnt even equal to cost of living. So we technically didnt even get a raise we lost money. Next time dont be so worried about a stupid retro check and getting an unrealistically high raise. Look at the big picture and think for once.
Fucked again, you go boys and girls make this city safe. How in the world can you justify putting your life on the line for these minority savages when these crooked politicians shit on us. Anybody who does any work other than answering your jobs, is a fucking idiot. You specialize unit are Hypocrites you will sell your soul to the devil so you won't have to be in a beat car and you will accept the shit that is thrown at you. Da mayor got us and he is laughing all the way to the bank. We got nothing and stuck with a five year contract.
This is a tragedy! I am not a police officer but married to one and I feel horrible for him and the rest of you hardworking police officers. You never hesitate to shots fired or a 10-1 because that is not what you – you are the police. But, truly this is a slap in the face. You are worth more than this. The city’s good for nothing alderman get paid so much more and do so little for our communities. Our police officers are paid less and expected to work harder and sometimes alone. The worst is that you are picked on by EVERYONE. Torn to a shred by the media at any given opportunity! I appreciate all of you Police Officers – and feel horrible that you are being treated with neglect. It is horrible enough that we have to live in the city and now get screwed by the officials too!
WE GOT FUCKED!!! IF ANYONE DOES ANY WORK FOR THIS FUCKING CITY AGAIN... YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!
2% for 5 years????? FUCK THIS!
If any of you dumb asses do anything more than required you're a fool. If any of you dumb asses continue to work 10-99 on 1st or 3rd watch, you're a fool. I'm fucking done! Answer my calls get a check!!!!
Well dispatchers... we now know how it feels!
what the fuck... was the arbitrator a daley relative... UNION what the fuck, why did they not see this coming, should not have taken this to arbitration unless we were to come out ahead or at least break even.
WOW when ur FOP is working for city and mark got his good job with the county>it cost us 10 percent for 5 years >>>now its on
The fucking Tribune posts an update before our FLOP. Way to go guys. At least we have SCC to keep us informed. FUCK THIS CITY. Keep kicking us while we're down. Well folks, if this is the way you want it....wait and see how violent this summer gets when all the criminals just wave at us as we drive by and see nothing. Can't afford to live here...so I'm sure as hell not doing anything to keep this shithole running. The good citizens better hope and pray that the handgun ban gets lifted because you are now TRULY on your own.
Yet you will have cop's going out there breaking their necks trying to get that dope pinch or gangbanger and his gun. I dont work as it is, just wait and see how little I will do now. No parkers, movers, arrests, contact cards, school absentees, CAPS request forms. You name it I will not do it. I am a DOG, proud of it, this is a job and not a calling.
I will do NOTHING now!
Well we did get fucked!!!! 10 % over 5 years. What a joke!!! Alderman have gotten 6% each of the last 3 years and their people 5% each year.... but wait what they do if far more dangerous... show up sometimes to a part time job....
ABOLISH OUR UNION; these fucks do absoultly nothing for us....Time to clean house
Lets all take a deep breath for a second....
TO THE FOP, Unit Reps, etc.....
A sincere Thank You for putting in all of the long hours the last few years. Although many will be calling for your heads, there are some out here who support who appreciate what you do.
TO THOSE WHO HAVE NOW DECIDED TO RETIRE...
It was a pleasure working with you all, enjoy your retirement.
TO FELLOW OFFICERS.....
Look at the big picture, we got 10%this contract, not entirely the city wanted. Last contract the city won on discipline, but we won on the pay raise. I don'd think we did that bad on the contract before
either. This raise (although we did not get what we wanted) is a middle of the road decision by the arbitrator.
Just make up the difference by making a late arrest-and insist the W.C. sign the O.T. slip-do not let them tell you they will "get you out of here early on your friday" Fill up your court with arrests on signed complaints, and doing one TVB a month (no testifying).
And stay off the COMMENTS section of the local media outlets, you know they are all going to be negative so dont put yourself thru the stress
FUCKED without lube agian. Any of you fucking jagoffs that continue to work for this city are just beyond dumb. IM DONE!! 19p and good luck chicago
Utterly Ridiculous time for a new union or new people in our union.
First, you must get rid of FOP. They are Daley's tools. Next, start the Chicago Police Department Tea Party.
The pro-union Daley and his pro-union aldermen hate the police and fire unions. Hypocrisy is their name.
You guys better get politically active if you expect to get anything. Look at the corrupt radical SEIU- the city bows down and drinks their toilet water.
The time is now for you guys to fight back. Dineen, Nolan, and Donahue have sold you out. Daley and the aldermen hate you. What do you have to lose?
In todays economy how can you NOW get any more money? FOP really messed the contract up this time. FOP gambled and lossed, and who suffers, us. The average joe on the street who is struggling won't give a damn about us having our rightful contract. Its too late for sympathy for everyone. FOP are a bunch of nitwits. My kid could have negotiated this contract and he is a freshman. FOP, you SUCK.
Thanks fop for costing each officer money because of you egos. Now I want you all to remember this when it time to vote for the next fop president. Make the effort this time to fill out your ballot and vote these fools out. Mike Shields you better put you hat in the ring. You would have had the good sense to accept and offer and not argue over 1/2 % or even try to get 6%.
This city will burn.
They thought they had moral problems before, just wait.
again, if anyone has the years and time on, take the 55 and out and get the hell away from this department!
i don't know why you guys stay?
All in all we can't bitch, i'm not happy with the decision at all BUT we have to keep in mind that we still did get a raise, even though it's a 5-years and not the 4-year we wanted, in this economy it was the best we were gonna do.
As pisseed as we might be, keep in mind that they are laying off cops and fireman all over the country..
P.S. Daley blows
WE DESERVE WHAT WE GET!!!! Can you really blame the City, or anyone, when they take advantage of us??? We can't EVER stick togther and support one another. There's alway BIG TALK when it comes to these things and guys are always talking about what they're going to/not going to do, but when it comes down to the nitty gritty, there is no follow through....."I don't want to lose my spot....I want to work beat ****.....I like wearing blue jeans at work....I need to make some overtime.....I want my commander to like me" BLAH BLAH BLAH. If we were a "REAL" union we would have the largest number of scabs ever seen because here at CPD everyone is an individual and not a team player. For the newer guys, get used to this sort of treatment because until we change ourselves from within we will always lose.
Thank for Gawd we got the 10% ovah five (5) years.
Thank for Gawd we gotz retro-ed.
Thank for Gawd our "professional" City-Wide Negotiating Team was doing the heavy lifting this time around.
But just think what the raise and retro could have been if F(L)OP had convinced the city to keep "negotiating" in good faith for another three years.
Paying police less will save city taxpayers money during a recession-driven budget crunch, so the arbitrator's ruling represents a win for City Hall.
Today, Daley told police officers to blame their union representatives.
"I ask all the police officials, all their families, 'Don't blame me,' " Daley said, turning toward the police on duty at O'Hare International Airport, where the mayor spoke at an unrelated event. "It was not me. It was your union officials that decided that. Because like anything else, I have to be the whipping boy on a lot of issues. But I stood tall, 16 percent, and if I agreed I would have to pay 16 percent. I would have to find that. I would have to find that. That's my responsibility. That's not them."
and here i was feeling guilty by doing less than nothing..so i got more back on my taxes then my retro? LoL..click booom!
I just started doing less than I was before. You all can have this City I am filling out my par form and going to work for a department out of state.
Thanks UNION for nothing. My milk has more percent than our raises.
Phucked raw no lube. Time for a new Flop.
Daley told police officers to blame their union representatives. That means you Mark, and the rest of the flop clowns. You should have checked with the members and taken his original offer. Thanks for a great job. I'll save you boys and girls the suspense of Mark's response to a pathetic raise. He'll say "Don't blame me guys, I got you people the 4 and 2 schedule." Another area he never consulted with union paying members on. Marky is out next election, but remember this and vote the rest out. This is change we need.
Ask me about my morale now. Now go out there and bust your asses WARRIORS!!!!
Here is what you are getting from me, Mayor Whipping Boy, zero.
I do this shit job because I wanted to make a difference and you, the arbitrator and your fucking thieving band of crooks screw the front line responders.
Good luck citizens of Chicago.
You want to call us whiners and complainers and say we are lucky to have a job, then you take the fucking test and come on the job. There will be plenty of openings.
BULLSHIT. ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT.
GREAT!NOW WE ARE A SECOND CLASS POLICE DEPT IN WAGES TOO!WHEN I CAME ON WE WERE NEAR THE TOP ,NOW WE R IN THE MIDDLE ...THE CITY OF CHICAGO!THIS IS BIG CITY!WE R SUPPOSED TO BE THE EXAMPLE,NOT THE FOLLOWER!!WE SHOULD B THE LEADER IN EVERTHING POLICE INCLUDING WAGES!!THIS IS A SAD DAY TO BE A CHICAGO POLICE OFFICER,AND A RESIDENT OF THIS ONCE GREAT CITY!!REGISTER TO VOTE ,ITS TIME FOR CHANGE!GET THE WORD OUT TO FRIENDS FAMILY!!
Here is my percentage of increases for the city:
Zero. Zero. Zero. Zero.
This will be the amount of parkers, movers, ANOV's, curfews and/or truants.
Arrests will be done on a case by case basis.
Zero pro-activity is the new number.
WTF!!!! Another slap in the face. Alderpukes get their raise on time and cops gotta wait 3 years for this. For those that want to see residencey lifted no is the time to go for it. With the recent tax increases and quins tax proposals that nullifys the raise to 3 years ago. City workers can't even afford to live in this violent shithole. What was it 15 murders in 2 days. Yeah this is where I chose to have my kids grow up.
Time to vote EVERYONE out of FOP!!! These assholes are in bed with the city no matter what they say. We need Union leaders working for the best interest of us, not the best interest of the city!
Good thing we had an arbitraitor to get less than the initial city offer!!!
WTF!
screw this. I'm going to get two knee surgeries and maybe get my hip done be off for at least 26 months. They'll get what they pay for.
Why is FOP treating this announcement like a afternoon game show thinking that everyone is on the edge of their seat waiting for the word?
This is a crock of shit waiting more than two and a half years for a contract and when there is one we are treated like firstgraders by FOP and the whores at city hall.
It's been almost three years, open your mouths and say something.
FUCK THEM ALL, WHORES, NOTHING BUT WHORES!!!!!!!!
Jimmy Olson must have taken the morning off.
i just want to move to a suburb, my ass is starting to hurt
It doesn't even cover the cost of living in this hell hole city!!!
We are taxed too much both by the city and the county. Who is this Arbitrator? What political agenda is he on? Are we getting Retro?
Thanks Mark Donahue For fuc**** us in the a** on a 5 year 10% 6.5% retro contract. You are a scumbag loser who dropped the ball. Oh let's not forget Greg Bella and his band of merry boobs!
Fuck Fop they are in bed with the city.
The F.O.P. has failed it's membership. The members entrust the F.O.P. to bargain for a fair contract and they failed miserably! The F.O.P. as we now know it is DONE. All the members of the board who can't retire, get ready to be assigned back to your unit of assignment. E.T., detective division, foot posts, beat cars and so forth! The members will speak at election time. Good Bye boys cause your gone!
I realize this post will get lost in the outpouring of anger here.
But if we got what was taken off the table, would everyone really have been happy?
We would have continued to do what we've been doing.
Maybe we should change.
You know, traffic enforcement has been woefully neglected as evidenced by the driving habits of the inhabitants of this city.
Maybe we should tighten it up a little. TVB the repeater. Seize the suspended's car.
Oh, nobody to answer that call, hire some cops.
Those who might complain they have to answer the call that might have gone to the TVB'er. Get your own.
I bid no confidence on FOP. I don't know about you brothers and sister, but I an going to start going to the fop meeting and speaking my mind rather then waiting on them we need to start pushing them. Don't get me wrong in these hard times I an happy to get double digits, but the question is did fop really do there best to lay it out? The mayor and alderscum trashed up several times in the media we had a new alderscum who hates police on a police committee why does fop stay quiet? Its a sad day when we are the bad guys even though we got screwed. We need REAL LEADERSHIP in fop kick these busters out keep your shity mailer to what goes does it do when you have no backbone.
Once again the membership has been K.O.'d by city hall. Wait until the new police and fire chairman is seated....this is just the start.
It's going to be a busy summer! With all the gun fire last night I just got 1 thing let them kill each other WHO CARES!!! The 1st and 16th is the most important thing. But, gettting only 2% F*CK YOU!!! I'll work even less now.
FOP and Daley both suck!! Worst contract in my years as an officer! Thanks again. Mark D. does not care..he will retire soon enough making commanders pay. My ass hurts from getting this contract stuck way up it!
RECALL DONAHUE!
Benn screwed the FOP last time why did they pick him again.
Did anyone know the City offered us 16 to 17% over 5yrs or am I getting bad information>
CPD gets screwed and CPS teachers continue to get their annual 4% raises, something is wrong here...
Plus, this......
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/cps.teacher.residency.2.1562939.html
unbelievable, i have tried 3 times to access the FOP website and its down, at 1230 pm. Nice job Donahue, 2%, ain't shit. We are truely fucked on this and all other contracts. Looks like Daley got to the arbitrator.
17 shot 6 dead yesterday. And they cut our payraise.Go get some heads guys.Just so u can wear jeans and be all tactical.Fuck this city.Daley gets what he wants. Everything from water to city stickers go up,we go backwards.Give them what they give us ,shit.Daley said thank your fop reps
We got fucked hard. No lube, no nothing. The arbitration appears to have created new stuff to put into a contract.
Daley looked at then coppers standing by him at O'hare and said "don't blame me....I stood tall at 16%"..."Blame the union". WTF!
well at least I can say I was right... all you people with your head in the clouds saying oh were gonna get at least 4% a year are on drugs. its actually a better award than what I thought.. im not saying its what we should get.. we definatly got screwed and it sucks..but it doesnt suprise me one bit.. this city blows. hopefully crime runs rampant.. well, it already is considering 6 dead and a total of 17 shot on thursday night alone.
CBS2 posted a link to SCC at the very end of it's story regarding this.
"An independent arbitrator signed off Friday on a new police contract. It gives officers a 6.5 percent retroactive pay raise dating back to July 2007, and a 3.5 percent raise going forward to 2012....... But the Second City Cop blog, which is written by and for Chicago Police officers, posted the headline, "Officers screwed." ("officers screwed" was highlighted as a link to SCC)
forget a slow down!! how about completely stopping creating revenue for this complete ass!! Blame it on the union? the fix was in
Please post to see which aldercreatures use their expense accout on car leases. Burke is listed, he uses a city vehicle with and police protection, but pays for a lease.
http://councilexpenses2008.apps.chicagotribune.com/
Donahoe!!!!! You're going to take it on the chin for this one...Man up and at least and dont hide like a little baby. We lost this one. We also lost the oportunity to straighten out some issues like manpower, IOD denials, and work assighnment by management discretion, greivance procedures. Overall this is a bitter pill to swallow for CPD. When will you listen to the masses? you and your FLOP team can take a hike next election. You're a failure....
2007......1%
2008......3%
2009......2%
2010......1%
2011......2%
2012......1%
We've been screwed with no lubeeerman! 2% WTF.
WOW! Did we get screwed! How the hell did we get less than a 50/50 split even based off of the cities 0% increase?!?! We are idiots one and all if we bring in a dollar of revenue for this city ever again! I will be the new king of bus checks! FLOP better ask for a 100% increase in pay next contract so maybe we could make cost of living…
Just like I predicted, FLOP has nothing on their website and SCC has the info. Pathetic, just like this contract.
FOP screwed us!! We should have taken the city's initial offer......Thanks alot Mark!!
OMG....we got screwed!
daley is just one big jagoff. the 16% was pulled by him not us. i hope the citizens get used to waiting for service. "squad, put me down for a carwash and put a lunch ticket behind that." done working for that other j/o weasel and company.
UNFUCKINGBELIEVEABLE. Anyone who does anything for this department without putting in a slip is insane. Worked 15 mins of OT? PUT IN A FUCKING SLIP.
"In Theory" an arbitrator tries to meet both parties in the MIDDLE. With that said, I think we know what the City (Daley) THINKS of us!
- VERY LITTLE
You all deserve WAY better. That is ridiculous! How you continue to do what you do is amazing but well appreciated by the citizens. There are many who still love all of you but those stories don't make the media outlets.
Be safe
Ok, all you hard-chargers, how do you like them apples? All you suckholes that bent over backwards to keep those parker, mover and vehicle impound indexes up to keep your "mission car" or your "named offender/warrant car" have hopefully learned the hard lesson that the old-timers were trying to school you about. Does "The Captain's gonna bounce us off our car if we don't give him some tickets" sound familiar?
I hope you fools with the unquenchable thirst for the 35th Street Koolaid FINALLY start to see the reality involved in this game.
It was quoted that the city had $70 million on ice (collecting interest) in anticipation of paying out huge retroactive pay. We all know the city has WAY more than that available for when the need arises. Only now that need is substantially less because we had it rammed up our poopers yet again.
And allow me to throw a bit more salt in this open wound: the non-working, welfare-collecting mopes that we deal with day in and day out have been getting their monthly tax-payer-funded stipends ON TIME, with increases commensurate with the cost of living. Yes, that's right, their checks increase year-to-year while we've had to wait 3 years to get a pittance that doesn't keep up with the cost of living in this hellhole of a city. Don't forget to factor in all the other freebies like subsidized housing, food programs, free medical coverage, etc, etc....
But don't fret, boys and girls. I have it from a VERY reliable source that Mayor Daley plans on giving all CPD and CFD employees a Christmas Bonus this year. We're looking at about $2,000-$2,500 each.
Now get back to those mean streets and write some parkers and impound some cars to show Richie D. just how appreciative you are.
Chumps!
Well at least they won't get the opportunity to botch the next round of negotiations.
Note to the next leadership group at FOP:
When you reject an offer calling it insulting, what you're going to want to do is get MORE than that which had been offered. It's a tricky concept, but skilled negotiators typically employ that strategy rather than the unconventional route the FOP took this time around. "That offer is an outrage! We won't settle for anything that's not significantly less than that!"
Blame the FOP and Obama.
Donahue should have moved for arbitration as soon as possible. Had he done so, the arbitrator's decision would have come back in good (pre-Obama) economic times.
Remember, the contract ran out in June 2007. Obama didn't get elected until Nov 2008.
I can see the stock market reaction today to the contract.
So the FOP drew this out an entire year just to give 6% back to the city. I think it's obvious where their loyalty lay.
Breaking news has it at 2 % a year. Not much. And, residency continues, the last major city in the country
This city sucks!! We need to march now!!! Everyone let's get together and march!! Show Daley what this city would be like "without" the police!!!!
I'm confused, was the FOP negotiating on our behalf or the cities?
why a five year deal---- daley got what he wanted which leads me to believe that the arbitrator sold us out...
Year City's Initial Offer FOP's Proposal Per Arbitration
2007 1.10% 4.00% 1.00%
2008 2.25% 5.00% 3.00%
2009 3.00% 5.00% 2.00%
2010 3.00% 5.00% 1.00%
2011 3.25% 5.00% 2.00%
2012 3.50% 5.00% 1.00%
We got shanked again. These thieves vote theirselves a 6% yearly raise and now their ecstatic that they "saved" the city money by only giving us 2% a year. Yes our F.O.P. leadership must share some of the blame but I'm so pissed right now I can't help but fault these thieveing politicians of ours also.
Now it's time to give them police work commesurate with the paltry pay raise that doesn't even keep up with inflation and the ever increasing costs of living in this wretched city!
FUCK THIS UNION!!! Time to disband them and bring in Teamsters!!!FUCK JFled, FUCK the city. I'm barely making ends meet as it is because it's so fucking expensive to live within the city limits. We'll just see how ugly things get this summer. Be safe out there and watch your backs because no one else will.
Hey Markie Boy, I hope Daley gets you a good job come FOP election. I think you are done....
Although the percentages are small, I could have never imagined that I would be making the money I am as a police officer. This job allows for my wife to stay home and raise our child, its given me a college degree and eventually a pension that people in the private sector just don't have anymore. Ultimately, pissed off or not the men and women of the Chicago Police Department will continue to do their job with honor and pride. At least I will.
Im done , 22 years on I always brought in a mover and 5 parkers a day.Made arrests and was always a proactive police officer. Now I will never do a mover unless it is related to an accident and will never write a parker unless its a number 1 parker. Today is a sad day for the Chicago Police Department ,one arbitration decision turned many good police officers into non-proactive officers.
You got to be freakin kidding me.....What kind of raise is this....Boy oh boy....It's gonna be a long next couple of years
11,000 members
x $7,000 av retro
----------------$77,000,000
Today, Daley told police officers to blame their union representatives.
"I ask all the police officials, all their families, 'Don't blame me,' " Daley said, turning toward the police on duty at O'Hare International Airport, where the mayor spoke at an unrelated event. "It was not me. It was your union officials that decided that. Because like anything else, I have to be the whipping boy on a lot of issues. But I stood tall, 16 percent, and if I agreed I would have to pay 16 percent. I would have to find that. I would have to find that. That's my responsibility. That's not them."
I blame Daley and everyone else should too. We must vote them out. do only the bear minimum to kepp your job. Protect your neighborhood.... FUCK THIS ASSHOLE AND CITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Officers screwed...And the citizens will be screwed as a result. All of this because of King Shortshanks the dictator. Thats a lot of misery to go around because of one man.
Remember the FOP negotiators in your next election. They lost you money by gambling.
Thanks to the Me-Too clause, we are in luck. I bet the Sgt association will bring home the bacon! Light at the end of the tunnel.
Fuck this city and the FOP! Thats all I have to say about that.
This city will soon become known as the city of chaos! Citizens...you better arm yourselves now. That is all that is going to save you.
DALEY IS LAUGHING HIS AS OFF AT US. HE HE HE HE HE!!! IT'S TIME PARTY LIKE IT'S 1999... WOO YAA..
Think about that when you do your job tonight. We must get residency lifted and dump this guy out of office.
Well, I guess it's retirement time.
I bust my ass chasing down dope dealers, man with guns and domestic related bullshit...
NOT ANYMORE.... BITE ME DALEY!!!!
yes we got fucked again.....don't bring any numbers in, let crime go up.....people will grow unhappy with da mayor and sup..... take care of your families and brothers in blue....fuck the rest.
How on earth did the arbitrator award less than what the city initially even offered?
This is a total and complete failure by FOP.
Well at least I got a good stretch in while grabbing my ankles.
The Mayor and the city council keep getting away with tons of backhanded stealing and the media focuses on bullshit.
Yes, you jackasses in the press, we are pissed off. This is not a department of Abate fuck-ups.
We the good cops have made our sacrifices to the city with using shitty equipment, run-down cars, verbal abuse by bosses AND citizens, paid higher and higher real estate taxes and sales taxes.
We have been asked to go out into the streets with less manpower jeopardizing our safety and ultimately losing the lives of a number of our own.
Sacrifices? You the Mayor, politicians and reverends want us to sacrifice?
We're done sacrificing.
This contract is a slap in the face to the thousand of cops who anonymously do a good job day in and day out.
I am already pissed about the continued and future responses to "suck it up and be thankful" we got what we got and that we have jobs.
Screw that! I'll trade my beat job for the mayor's or the aldermen's any day.
Enough of paying for these socialize handouts to those who bank on the welfare system. For you reverends who hate the police, read II Thes 3:10, "those who do not work, should not eat".
My salary subsidizes the corruption in City Hall and I have no control over it.
Well I have control over this: No activity and no proactive work.
Good luck to all of you who live in Chicago this summer. You will need it.
P.S. Before you bitch and moan what a bad attitude that last statement is, I know that. Suck it up and deal with it cause that's the way it is.
I'm not on the job, but I can see how you,ve been well and truely fucked. Now I hope it spurs you fine people to rethink the leadership vacuum your bargining organization has, and have had. Best wishes from a concerned citizen.
As of 13:50 hrs the Flop web site us down. Did Dontknowdoo and the boys get early word and stopped paying the bills then snuck out the back door today?
Remeber to reserve your T time for the golf outing.
Lunch with Santa is only 8 months away, Never too early to make plans.
Now move along officers we have a "board" meeting.
Employment psychology says: The best way to make workers produce is to make them happy.
I AM NOT HAPPY.
FLOP Website at 1400 hours:
The FOP website is currently experiencing server difficulties. This temporary page will answer the most urgent questions. Please select a link to go to that topic.
We apologize for the inconvenience.
There was no other info posted and no links. Thanks again!!
i wont be voting for any of the people who was at the table for our contract. holding out for more got us less anyway!
Let the city burn.
Thank you Arbitraitor Benn for bennding over backwards for the city and mayor shanks!
Teachers get 4%,
Alderpersons 6%,
We get 2%?
Shanks still laughing, they should have taken that first offer!
we got screwed
Thanks Costanza for negotiating for less, welcome to the bizzaro world way. Glad teachers got their 20% and lets not forget the alderman. Also big shout out to FOP for letting me find out via the Trib because your to scared to tell us the deal until 3 nice work
Thats okay. The city has what they wanted. A reactive police department not a proactive one.
Shootings will continue to escalate and with the lack of respect shown to the police officers of this city I will gladly make 80K a year being a report writer.
i will not do anything to generate any revenue for this city what so ever and I am not alone.
I have 5 years on the job and have quickly learned that it is better to do NOTHING than be a worker and get in trouble , or not even get the respect we deserve.
I am not alone. Alot of men and women who came on around the time I did feel the same. I can truly understand why officers with 15 to 20 yrs dont want to do shit.
This city is going to be in ruins in 10 yrs and we all have Mayoe daley and the rest of the theives to blame for that.
mayoe daley you have made my life difficult along with the rest of the crook county clan.
i have lost my house and my kids no longer can go to catholic school because of the tax increases and the fees that are out of control.
I once thought this was the greatest city in the country and boy how untrue that statement is today.
I wish nothing but heartache and ill will on all you political hack bastards. You will get yours. Not here but in the afterlife.
all you politicians may you all rot in hell because you deserve it.
Screwed again.
But keep on writing those movers and making those pro-active arrests!!
ShortShanks really appreciates your effort, you can just tell by his smug attitude.
The city continues to push their money problems onto the workers. Huberman and his staff will get huge raises. The alderthieves have their "expense accounts". Picardi and the other managers will get their 6 figures. Meantime the city workers are taking 24 days without pay with rumors that there is more coming. Now the police get ripped off. When will someone step up and run against this midget?...
No offense to midgets.
The raises average 2 percent a year for five years. That's less than the 3.2 percent a year for five years that Mayor Richard Daley pulled off the negotiating table in March 2009.
REMEMBER DALEY PULLED THE OFFER OFF THE TABLE. GARBAGE MEN AND GUYS THAT FILL POT HOLES MAKE MORE THEN US NOW. REMEMBER THAT...
Here's an idea. Let's flood the Mayor with phone calls and a march downtown, all in the hopes of urging the Mayor to boost moral and go above what the arbitrator decided. I think we could pull this off...BUT...the FOP cannot be the one to organize this!
The checks haven't been cut yet Mr. Mayor.
Do the right thing and you just might save this city from having another summer of pissed off cops tryin to make ends meet for their families.
Buh bye current fop and anyone remotely tied to them, and buh bye arbitrator Benn. Alderscum vote themselves a 6% a year raise and we get 2%?
thank you to the bosses for riding piggy back. fuck you too!!!
Here's to hoping you don't get fucked raw like we dispatchers did at contract time.
4/16/2010 03:48:00 AM
Raw, with sand on the dipstick! But you guys should have jumped out of that IBEW local a long time ago. Your local represents oemc dispatchers, call takers .............................................................................. and some freaking fly by night non-oemc cable installers! It is no wonder you took the high hard one!
Buh-Bye Bella!
The FOP are simpletons playing at being negotiators. They have no frigging clue and are too greedy collections stipens, gratuities, trips and "seminars" to understand that we need PROFESSIONALS negotiating for us.
Just wait till Alderscum Beale takes away uniform and duty from us.
Thanks guys.
Nothing for the FTOs.
The union did not even argue for D2A pay as mentioned on the their web site.
Sad, very sad. Both the city and the union are equally at fault.
A great job by the Union's big-shot labor attorney!!Whatever they sold out for I hope they can look at themselves in the mirror and live with it!
I am angry,burned out and financially drowning. This is a recipe for disaster and is the norm with the C.P.D. If anyone votes for ANY DEMOCRAT in Nov you are an imbecile. Our city Gov't is a criminal enterprise that has once again showed it is truly evil. This contract or lack of it,was a declaration of war.
Someone commented that this arbitrator was police friendly? I hate to see if he wasn't. He must have got one hell of a kickback! A big FUCK YOU goes out to him. I already saw Daley laughing blaming it on union.....
Arbitrator basically looked at the economy and based decision on the NATIONAL cost of living.
NOT the State of Illinois or City of Shitcago cost of living. (Both of which are significantly higher than the national average!)
We get screwed AGAIN!
ANYONE THAT VOTES FOR THE CURRENT FOP ADMINISTRATION IN THE NEXT FOP ELECTION IS A FOOL!
I don't know if it's possible to do less than I'm already doing, but I'm going to try. After I get done crying. FOP blows.
Why did it take almost 3 years for the FOP and City Hall to sell out the Officers. They could have screwed the coppers in several days instead of 40 months.
Thank Daley and Donahue, remind me to vote for you assholes when the time comes.
welcome to the new detroit !
may the new train cars be riddled with bullets from the south & west sides.
i just don't care anymore.
u win, mr mayor.
Fran, I'd like to see a retraction and correction. We did NOT walk away from a proposed 16% increase.
Mayor Richard M. Daley ILLEGALLY ended negotiations and, in violation of Federal labor laws, pulled the City's offer from the table.
Unfortunately, FOP did not sue him for this action when they had the chance, so we get stuck with this 'raise', which doesn't even cover the cost of living increase.
If you're going to claim to be a reporter, you should at least report the TRUTH.
WE get F*&$Ked again!
When are FOP elections?
DAVE BIRD for President!
That contract was a total ass fuck. FOP got smoked in arbitration. I like how Benn figured are step raises in his award. What a fucking stooge. Current FOP say goodbye. Any copper with a pulse will walk into office over any of those stiffs.
So to put in in simple terms, for D1 pay, that's about an extra $100 per check give or take??? CHA CHING!!! (sarcasm)
I'm sure the arbitrator is having a nice laugh somewhere on a sunny beach because he just started WORLD WAR III . FUCK THIS WHOLE CITY , AND DON'T GIVE THIS DEPT> ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FUCK!!!!
Actually...we never had a chance to actually Accept or Reject the 16.1% that Daley Offered...
Daley took it back before we ever got to financial negotiations...
The unions that Accepted it all were forced into Substantial Givebacks, some took Unpaid Furlough Days, some now have ONE Holiday a Year (Labor Day) and No others. The unions that refused givebacks lost members through layoffs.
IS OUR GLASS IS HALF FULL...?
We actually have not given anything back as a concession...and yet still received a meager raise.
Financial times are tough, other departments got Zero % raises or took Cuts.
We are behind NYPD but ahead of LAPD
And Yes I know Daley has the Money... Unfortunately my arms are not L o n g enough...
FOP needs new leadership. Everyone has to go. Bullock was telling everyone that we had to get at least 16 percent because that is what the city offered. They dont have a f-ing clue.
Bella You are DONE!
Fuck Daley and Donahoe, they were in this together, laughing all the way to the bank.
Don't spend your No Interest/ Retro Check, especially don't spend it in Chicago.
Hpefully you live within your means.
Better to up your Deferred Comp or oper or put in a Regular IRA and save on income taxes.
The Democrat Obama Health Taxes are going to be a BITCH.
Register and Vote, Wear a Yellow Ribbon at St. Jude!
I'm getting about 2,600 in retro pay according to five frank. Earlier it was around 5,600 and some change. I tell you that if this is what I'm getting, I am doing this city in good. I am going to soak up as much OT as possible, talk every asa to notify me for everything bullshit, and make my arrest in the last hour.
I truly hope that some others step up and run for office in FOP. This current example of what is there now is just plain sorry
FOP had their web site turned off so they could get out of town before the news breaks. Do us a favor, stay out of town and take that asshole Daley with you.
If you consider how bad of shape the country is in and the fact that most people who are lucky enough to have jobs have had to take unpaid days off or pay cuts we really are lucky to be getting anything.
Any word on the rest of the contract?
FUCK YOU fop/daley/alderman/media and you fucking retards that right 10-20 movers/parkers/anovs every night, your idiots. Fuck you public that is never on our side. Take care of your own problems. The biggest fuck you to Fop, you useless crew. I thought nolan was bad, you guys take the cake, turned down 16%, never informed us of anything, never saw your fucking faces in the districts. one way motherfuckers!!! and to you bosses at roll call that ask for activity. go blow a donkey!!!!!!!!!!!!! watch crime skyrocket now assholes. reap what you fucking sow!!!!!!!!
NOBODY TO BLAME BUT FOP!!! THEY SHOULD HAVE WENT TO ARBITRATION AFTER SIX MONTHS OF TRYING TO NEGOTIATE. SECONDLY, IT WAS A MISTAKE TO PICK THE SAME ARBITRATOR AS LAST TIME. THE JAGOFF ARBITRATOR GAVE US A SHITTY CONTRACT LAST TIME..TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE AT FOP.
To the city:
Fuck you, you fucking fucks!
Sincerely,
P.O. "R.O.D." (retired-on-duty)
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