Curfew Violators to Parks?
We're wondering if this is a tacit admission that detectives and beat cops are so shorthanded that they can't be held down watching curfew violators:
- Kids caught breaking curfew this summer in three high-crime areas of the city will be sent to Chicago Park District buildings instead of police stations to wait for their parents to pick them up.
Mayor Richard Daley hopes the trial program will give police a chance to present youths with alternatives to hanging out on the street. Parents of children younger than 17 found by police outside the home after 11 p.m. on weekends will have to pick them up at the parks, where neighborhood relations officers will be on hand to talk to them about community organizations and park district programs available for their kids.
"The park district buildings will be an easier place for young people to wait than a police station, and an easier place for us to communicate with the parents who come to pick up their own children," Daley said during a news conference at Ogden Park in the 6500 block of South Racine Avenue, one of the sites curfew violators will be brought.
Are park employees being paid overtime to keep the buildings open 24 hours? Is there a cutoff time? What about a "secure detention area" parts of the General Orders? Are these buildings equipped as such?
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posted by SCC at 12:31 AM
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I say we just give 'em the old Spicoli treatment.
Give 'em some cool buds, tasty waves and they'll be fine.
Overtime?
I've been thinking, SCC. If I'm here, and they're here, doesn't that make it our time?
And certainly there's nothing wrong with a little pizza on our time.
Midnights neighborhood relations officers??!!! I've never heard of such a thing.
"Are park employees being paid overtime to keep the buildings open 24 hours? Is there a cutoff time? What about a "secure detention area" parts of the General Orders? Are these buildings equipped as such?"
brilliant idea.
collect a bunch of youthful shitheads, with no regard to their probable gang affiliations, in a building not designed to securely physically separate them, and then, when, (or rather IF), their 'parents' come to pick them up, 'talk to (said parents) about community organizations and park district programs available for their kids.', as if these 'kids' or their 'parents' give a flying fuck about what's 'available for their kids.'.
and what might be the expected nature of these parents' attitudes, when they, theoretically, arrive to pick up their little angels? especially in an environment substantially devoid of any significant 'back-up'?
yep, another recipe for disaster.
brilliant.
"...neighborhood relations officers will be on hand to talk to them about community organizations and park district programs available for their kids."
Oh-- the new midnight-to-5-AM "park district programs" to babysit the offspring of party-all-school-night crack ho baby mamas?
Dig Shentrice rolling her eyes at the ceiling for this lecture...
Not even sleeping mats in the district lockups -- and now this.
Imagine the liability if there's a banger fight or shooting in one of these inadequate, zero-security buildings -- staffed by who? Park District janitors gonna do the pat-downs?
MAYOR DALEY IS CLINICALLY INSANE
Ya show the street gang-members were the good kids hang out so they can start recruting.
"The park district buildings will be an easier place for young people to wait than a police station, and an easier place for us to communicate with the parents who come to pick up their own children," Daley said during a news conference...
1. Does Illinois law allow for this?
2. Is the Park District prepared to secure and possibly do battle with the young'uns?
3. Will the detaining officers be in violation of law by turning the 'children' over to someone other than their parents?
4. Is the Park District indemnified against all the ills that might befall a juvenile who is in their care and custody? Not to mention the rival gang members who will end up in the same fieldhouse at the same time. What fun.
5. And, when one of them walks out of the facility (after all, it's not like they're under arrest) and gets hurt or killed once on their own, who is liable? The officers with first contact? The Park District? The person who came up with this boneheaded idea?
why? what good is this? and what happens at end of shift, when the kid's mama never shows up and he ends up being the responsibility of the desk sgt? Do we bring him to the desk before checkoff? How about we revert to the old curfews: the one's that were the size of a contact card. The ones without a narrative. The ones without a perjury box. Good Lord, its a curfew. WHY MAKE THE SIMPLE STUFF SO COMPLICATED???
Sure hope Junebug doesn't get cornholed while being watched by Lord knows who in one of those buildings. Lawyers are already preparing for a bonanza.
What the fuck is this all about? How about you serve a hot meal on top of this and have a limo drive them home. Daley - you are an ignorant piece of shit.Where did the money for this come from? I thought the city is B R O K E. WTF?????
and an easier place for us to communicate with the parents who come to pick up their own children,"
Since when do these loser "parents" (using the term parents very loosely) ever come to pick up their kids? I can't remember the last time a parent of one of the curfews I picked up actually gave a fuck where the kid was or what the kid was doing let alone want to drive down to the station at 1am to pick the asshole kid up. Come to think of it I can't remember the last time I was able to communicate with a parent due to the fact that I'm now the asshole speaking the foreign language of English. Curfews= Another fucking joke.
this doesn't make much sense. Probably will never happen. seems like the kids can just run away. then what sort of liability is there.
Good luck getting Momma over to the park. Half the time they don't show up when their kid is pinched.
How many of these shitheads will run out the back and you're now stuck writing a missing report?
WTF!!! The Park Fieldhouse is closed on week-ends in my S.w. side neighborhood. Our Little League has to rent porta-johns for the kids and their families. I guess we should get the kids of the diamonds and into the streets, so they can use the Park Facilities that we pay for with our taxes. I've gotta get my family out of this hell hole called Chicago, but we're going to stay just long enough to VOTE AGAINST that BASTARD SHORTSHANKS.
I could be mistaken, but don't the parks and other park district property (ie beaches) close at 11 p.m.? It has been a long time but aren't we supposed to arrest people in the park after hours for trespassing or something? I seem to remember a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away the GDs owned Ogden Park (one of the parks marked for this program) so much so that they painted over the sign so it read GDN Park
Spin, spin, spin.
Gotta run!
They go to a police station, bec it is PUNISHMENT. Imagine that. Maybe this why these kids are f-tards, bec no one has the balls to them a little negative reinforcement.
Wait until the gang fights start in the park building because 6-7 shitheads are being watched by 2 cops who are busy on the phone and/or doing paperwork. What a stupid idea. Again, one that's not fully thought out. This is as fucked up as the midnight basketball tournaments of yore that resulted in gang fights and shootings all over the neighborhoods.
Neighborhood relations (caps) officers? OH MY GOD!!!
Hey caps people - Just call 911 !!
I work for the park district and we don't want to deal with these kids, they cause enough trouble in our parks! Take them to the station!
What Boob thought this up? Man are the people who run this city Fuckin Stupid...More wasted taxpayers dollars for sure...
I just watched the movie "Soylent Green". I have a much better idea.
"Fuck dat booshit! Dat park is to far and dere aint no bus runnin'."
When I was a kid (25 years ago) we rarely got taken all the way into a station for curfew. A quick pop in the gut and "get your ass home" pretty much ended the night for us . . .
maybe they are doing this so these "parents" that do come to pick up their kids will have to pay the new meters installed along the lakefront. one of you guys might even be lucky enough to ticket the "parents" that most likely dont bother to feed a meter.
bring latin kings,satan disciples,cullerton deuces,22 boys or vice lord curfew violators deep into two six territory(piotrowski park) and see what will happen!!!what a bunch of fuck tard policy makers!!
and an easier place for us to communicate with the parents who come to pick up their own children,"
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Yeah, like these parents give a shit. That's why the kids are out after curfew in the first place - they don't have anyone at home enforcing the rules and punishing them if they break them. That's why my kids are in the house, where they should be, every night.
and you wonder why chicago is the laffing stock of the nation
thanx Daley ! ...
i bet the so called parents think this is great ..
free overnight babysitter till morning when curfew is over and then kid can go back home ....
1950's Ozzie and Harriet solution to a 2010 clusterfuck.
This is just wonderful, how much extra is this going to cost the TAXPAYERS to give the mutts more free babysitting?!?!
sounds great on paper, but the reality of this probably will blow up in someone's face. You will have to have beds for the little folks because their parents won't come until the morning. Then, you are mixing gangs in one building. But, I guess it all depends on how crowded things get. Maybe it will work?
Save more time and process Hyde Park Academy honor roll curfews and shoplifters at the H&M store on Michigan Ave.
What the fuck is this all about?
--In my opinion, this is his way of getting more policemen at the parks. Considering all the talk of cleaning up certain parks, many of the other citizens / alderfolk want the same thing for the parks in their areas. There is trouble at all the parks citywide; not just in certain neighborhoods. I guarantee that the parks he names as places to bring these curfews are going to be the most troubled spots.
Is this an unlawful detention?
Let me see if I have this right? When you pick up a kid for curfew you take him home. If no one is home or you cannot find someone to sign for him, you take him into the station. So if you can't find someone where he lives what the hell is. Never mind it's a good place to dump the kid.
What curfews? Why bother. Everyone seems worried about this stupid program. Just don't grab any curfews. Or all get together and everyone working that night grab a curfew and down every car in your district. Then see what happens.
In 024, the s__theads chased community groups and meetings out of the Pottawattomie Park fieldhouse many years ago. A good M-80 blast in a ceramic-tile hallway will have the acoustic panels showering down from the ceiling.
What is this? Beirut? The group I was involved with packed up the coffeepot and literature and supplies and -- well, we never returned. Too dangerous.
This should work out fine. There are vinyl-fabric partitions -- those accordion-fold things -- that can be pulled across rooms to separate Folks from People.
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Fuck dat booshit! Dat park is to far and dere aint no bus runnin'."
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What? stop cutting english class
so what happens if there is no curfews ? hmm interesting
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