Thursday, June 03, 2010

FOP Reply

Before we begin this rebuttal, a few facts and points:
  • We deleted about 90 comments in the "Question for the FOP" thread. We won't be posting any there either, mostly to spare everyone the rash of vitriol. We tallied them up before flushing and we seemed to be on the losing end by a narrow margin. However, the comments seemed to come in waves. Thirty-plus comments posted between 1100 and 1230, all using the same style of capitalization, grammar, style and naughty words. Another twenty or so went up between 1700 and 1800. The other forty were questioning the whole website deal, which was exactly the purpose of the post.
  • I am well aware that many FOP members read the Second City blog. I, for one, do not.
Bullshit Rich. But if true, you're missing a good time, good info and some of what truly concerns the members.
  • Today, I was made aware that the FOP website was the subject of a posting on the blog. There was much innuendo associated with this posting.
Again, bullshit. There was a listing of facts and a question posed, all in just over 200 words. If there was any innuendo, it was all in your head. Or are you claiming you don't get E-5 pay, you don't get stipend for Committee service, you don't get reimbursed dues and you don't receive another stipend for visiting Roll Calls?
  • These are the facts.
Oh goody. We like facts.
  • Prior to 2004 the Lodge was paying an outside vendor to host the website. A webmaster was paid for the maintenance and email fees. The website expenses for the Lodge totaled approximately $3600 a year which was not unreasonable considering the size of the site, the hours required for updates, and the hosting and email fees.

    I redesigned the FOP website, took over maintenance of the site, and moved the site to a different hosting company in 2004. Blueline Webs was listed as the creator of the site at that time. I am Blueline Webs. I have maintained the site since that time. The yearly expenses for the website have dropped to $259 per year. This includes all hosting, maintenance, and email fees for the FOP main site, the Gift Shop website, and the FOP Stars Hockey Team website.
Well, if you had read our question, which you couldn't since you allege that you don't read the blog, you cover all of the points quite nicely. You saved the organization around $3341 per year. Bravo!
  • Since 2004 I have never accepted or been offered any remuneration for my services either personally or through Blueline Webs. It was always my intent to draw on my services to the FOP purely as a referral at the time of my retirement from the Department.
And again, if you read the last paragraph we published, which, again, you couldn't as you claim not to read the blog, you'd see this - "If he's doing this for free, three cheers for him. If he's doing it for publicity, well, no one is blaming him for planning ahead, but should he be advertising on our site?"

Three cheers for your free work Rich - hip hip hooray! (x3).
  • Rather than publish an article on the Second City blog that is based merely on innuendo, the webmaster of that entity could have made one simple phone call to satisfy his curiosity.
Here's where we're going to have to take issue with you. We've been around 5 years the other day, not that you would have seen the post. We save just about everything and we happen to have around 5,000 e-mails in various forms, and among those e-mails is an entire series of letters sent to you and the FOP a few years ago. Guess how many replies we got?

Zero.

And again, since you don't read the blog, you wouldn't know that we don't do phones. Phones are traceable. People answering phones like to have names. Names manage to leak out, even if it's the wrong name that your operator keeps giving to callers, opening up the FOP to a real possibility of a slander suit, especially when it's the wrong name. There's a former IAD lieutenant who ran an illegal First Amendment investigation into a few of those names without proper notifications involving some improper surveillance. Things like that reek of Red Squad and C-5 days and happen when names are bandied around.

In any event, however inadvertently, you answered the question we posed. A small suggestion - instead of linking to what might someday be a for-profit enterprise of web design, how about a little post at the bottom along the lines of "Site Design Provided Free-of-Charge by Blueline Webs." It would make you seem altruistic and eliminate any questions of the nature that we posed.

As for those demanding apologies, many of which seem to have originated from the same IP address within the span of 37 minutes, we didn't realize that we weren't allowed to pose questions to our betters who run an organization that we happen to pay dues to. We suppose it's like anyone questioning Shortshanks - just shut up, submit your taxes and pay no attention to the odd things that catch our eye and just seem to require further explanation.

Shame on us.

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69 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought bringing up the question was just fine.

I think denigrating the response is unnecessary.

Question asked. Question answered. Enough said.

6/03/2010 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? ROD..

6/03/2010 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perfectly legit question asked. I do not see a problem with SCC and their question.

SCC, it is becoming more obvious that asking questions in our society is the same as asking for trouble. When did it become a problem to ask questions? Our money goes into these organizations, whether it be FOP or the city of Chicago. We deserve a proper accounting and return for our money, not the 'shut up and do what your told' attitude.

The world is changing around us and changing fast.

6/03/2010 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

A blitz of nasty-grams from the same individual(s)for daring to call into question the seeming appearance of impropriety by an officer or officers of our esteemed bargaining unit?

Naawwwww... Say it ain't so SCC!

You know they're touchy when they're legitimately called into question so just be quiet and pay your dues. They'll be well rewarded by shortshanks for being the lookouts while he strong-arm robbed the membership.

"shaddup and pay yer dues, come to a meeting if ya don't like it"

6/03/2010 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why did he eliminate the legislative link? A nice link to check on all pending pension reform, etc...

6/03/2010 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since the contract is over, will the Daley Media Machine not go after the FOP for this odd incident ?

6/03/2010 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you do not read SCC - Why respond Rich? I thought you were going to retire. You were full of sh-t in 014 and 025. Now you are more full of sh-t at FOP. You were a do nothing in 014 and 025! You seem like a typical Irish politican. Imagine that, you work for FOP. I can't believe it.

6/03/2010 02:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks SSC for bring this to our attention. So after retiring at captain's pay, what will the site cost us?

6/03/2010 02:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP SUCKS SO BAD THAT IF YOU REALLY SAT DOWN AND FIGURED OUT WHAT EACH OFFICER GIVES EACH AND EVERY PAYCHECK TO THE FOP IN UNION DUES, YOU WOULD START QUESTIONING WHAT THE HELL THEY REALLY DUE FOR US. WHAT ABOUT THE BEHAVIORIAL PROGRAM GUYS WERE PUT ON AND THE FOP HAS NOT DONE ONE THING TO HELP THE OFFICERS THAT WANTED TO SUE OR COLLECT MONIES. THE FOP IS A WORTHLESS BUNCH OF IDIOTS.

6/03/2010 02:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TYPICAL FLOP RESPONSE.

6/03/2010 05:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Much ado about nothing...

6/03/2010 06:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on over to PB&PA, we'd be happy to have you!!!

6/03/2010 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,
Thank you for explaining why you deleted the comments. I would also like to admire your integral character of admitting some fault. I have more respect for someone who can apologize and move on...keep up with the great job.

one of the brothers

6/03/2010 06:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a question for Rich?
Rich, why does it take so long for updates that matter?
I'm not talking fishing tourney or golf outing winners.

6/03/2010 07:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A simple , "I'm sorry" would have sufficed

6/03/2010 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would be a foolish thing for the FOP to start responding to this website on any level for any reason. That is self evident. This entire discussion is a tempest in a teapot and should be dropped.

6/03/2010 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP can S my D..... they get a lot of money from us and do little. As much as I like the idea of Shields for president, the more I am worried that someday he would turn in to the same POS as all the rest in that hall

6/03/2010 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pay your dues, golf, fish, and shaddup!

FOP

6/03/2010 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I havent seen a lamest useles website since they were giving them out free from Yahoo's Geocities!!

There is nothing clicklable as far as information, nothing that attempts to be resourceful for the officer.

Oh and by the way being an IT geek, .... that site probably cost $0 ..... yes, its probably running in the background of the creators real server that you are paying for with your FOP dollars ....

probably a adult book site, or real estate ..... Anyway, lets continue to "Just Complain" whilst they continue the suckage ....

Prince William

6/03/2010 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought bringing up the question was just fine.

I think denigrating the response is unnecessary.

Question asked. Question answered. Enough said.

6/03/2010 12:21:00 AM

I agree. SCC should have said sorry and moved on.

6/03/2010 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just watched a debate on Fox News Chicago between Rosanna Pulido and an Alderman regarding boycotting Arizona. She kicked his ass and supported the Police several times during the debate. I wonder if we could get her to run against Shortshanks if we could give her fire/police and city worker support. If anyone knows where I can reach her, please post. Thank you.

6/03/2010 08:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My 10 year old could make a better website than that. It's quite remedial.

6/03/2010 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YOU CONTINUE TO ASK QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE PROVEN THAT YOU ARE A VOICE THAT MUST BE ANSWERED. THANK-YOU !!!

6/03/2010 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The game is afoot my beloved SCC.

6/03/2010 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares aren't there other problems we have to deal with this a real non-story.

6/03/2010 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this a Chuck Goudy style Eye-Witless report? Jeez, big deal.

I am a unit rep, I get my dues reimbursed if I attend 5 meetings a year, I go to all or most meetings make my committee meetings and write updates and make calls for officers and answer my cell for officers 24/7 because that is what others did for me.

I don't know Rich personally but I did know his predecessor, Tim Fallon, and I know that Tim worked his ass off, I don't begrudge them what they earn.

If anyone wants to be a critic you will have a chance to put up or shut up next year, run for FOP office and do it your way and let us know how much of your salary you are willing to return.

And if anyone wants my exalted cush position of Unit Rep you are welcome to it. No one wants it, including me, but someone has to do it, I feel it is important to be of service so this is my way of helping others like other officers did for me years ago.

If some younger officer were willing to step up I will help them as much as they need to get rolling. That $430 yearly dues check doesn't put me in another tax bracket, that's for sure.

I will, however, miss the corned beef and cabbage dinner at Christmas time and Father Nangle and Rabbi Wolf's dumb jokes.

6/03/2010 10:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rich was an arrogant know-it-all when I met him in 96 in the 014th District. Just the kind of guy you love to see sink himself because he is such an asshole.

6/03/2010 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is an FOP Field Rep, who already makes E-5 Captain's pay (D-5 for you old timers), receives a stipend for Committee service, is reimbursed dues money for attending a minimum number of meetings and another stipend for visiting roll calls, also being paid by the membership to design and maintain a website through a company he owns?

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That us NOT innuendo?!?!?! Are you fucking kidding? You need a dictionary, Sherlock.

6/03/2010 11:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rich was a jagoff in 017 too. What a tool, very touchy. I'm not surprised by his behavior. Asshat.

6/03/2010 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What happened to the saying "There is no such thing as a stupid question"......guess that doesn't apply when asking questions about the FOP! Keep up the good work SCC, WE ALL read your blog for up to the minute information unlike Blue Web designs or that "other" blog. Wait did Rich design the "other" blog too?

6/03/2010 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Richie! Richie! take it easy kid, wtf your making loads of money,and since flop decided to pay all the top flop reps out of "our dues money" you are getting fat! So stand in the corner little man and STFU!

Don't worry next election a clean sweep will be done,even though old greg bella told Mike Shields not to run, and why did Mike agree? "The envelope please"?

6/03/2010 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wait...CAPTAIN'S PAY? SCC, who gets that?? The big whigs or the unit reps, watch reps??... I had no idea. What a joke!

6/03/2010 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP is made up mostly of CPD personnel. Remember when we use to work....... and a citizen came up to the car and asked for your name and badge number? Or asked "what are you arresting my son for? He didn't do anything." Didn't you hate that?

That's just what the FOP members are relating to. Being asked questions, directly or indirectly.

So see... it's not SCC it is just questioning what they are doing with our money.

6/03/2010 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic
a few weeks back a outside group was brought in to see exactly what field lts and capts do. they came into several districts to do ride alongs and assessments.
Some concerns that this group has is trying to figure out what exactly is the purpose of a field lt. They have asked to review field lt logs, but most field lts don't do supervisor's logs. The few who do always put down "reports - in district" for the last 2 or more hours of their shift. The group cant figure out why lts have so many reports to do a a daily basis that require 2 or 3 hours at the end of the shift. Hmmmm??? Also, when lts responded to this group they all cited how important they are to license investigations to taverns, etc, what the group is finding is that all the lt. does is approve the report, the sgt is on scene and handles the license investigation. The group can't figure out if Lts. feel that license investigations are so important, why don't they do random checks of taverns, etc,, like other municipalities do. The Lts. don't. Lastly when a field lt is working, most never come on the radio, a sgt never calls for the lt on the radio, but the sgt will go down on the air as going into the station to see the W/C. The group does not see the need for field lts. The group is feeling that a sufficient number of sgts working per watch and a w/c can do the job. No real need for a field lt.
Anyway, that is the rumor going on around 35th Street.

PS: Masters, Masters, Masters

6/03/2010 01:05:00 PM  
Blogger rof115 said...

Hey Rich... even if you think that SCC is the "enemy", you should read it regularly. A good warrior, for whatever cause, always needs to know what the "enemy" is thinking.

6/03/2010 01:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP SUCKS SO BAD THAT IF YOU REALLY SAT DOWN AND FIGURED OUT WHAT EACH OFFICER GIVES EACH AND EVERY PAYCHECK TO THE FOP IN UNION DUES, YOU WOULD START QUESTIONING WHAT THE HELL THEY REALLY DUE FOR US. WHAT ABOUT THE BEHAVIORIAL PROGRAM GUYS WERE PUT ON AND THE FOP HAS NOT DONE ONE THING TO HELP THE OFFICERS THAT WANTED TO SUE OR COLLECT MONIES. THE FOP IS A WORTHLESS BUNCH OF IDIOTS.

There is a question that has been recently raised on why this subject has not been further investigated. A private attorney has been working on one p/o's case and has come up with a surprising fact. One of the officers has been put on the " program " while the officers partner was NOT. AND THEY BOTH HAD THE QUALIFYING CR's TO MAKE IT IN THE PROGRAM IN THE SPECIFIED TIME. The officer's partner in question was promoted to a detective. Couldn't bypass the clout already in progress. The City has stated off-record that some sort of payment will be given out to ALL involved oficers. But, this might take years. Also there are other facts brought out that are making some people a little uncomfortable when " digging " is done into the " files ". Stay tuned. Hang in there fellow officers, the department just moves as slow as a snail on matters like this. Justice will be served one day.

6/03/2010 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

phuck the flop!!!

2% negotiating jerkoffs

6/03/2010 02:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
wait...CAPTAIN'S PAY? SCC, who gets that?? The big whigs or the unit reps, watch reps??... I had no idea. What a joke!

6/03/2010 11:44:00 AM
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You are a meathead!

6/03/2010 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous a disgusted 20 yr guy said...

Lets call it like it is. FOP is not a representative of this membership. They are a smokescreen and a puppet show manipulated by the Mayor and Superintendent.

If the union had any balls and represented us with gusto we would be getting our retro checks with intereset. The interest the city is making on our money that is just sitting there that should be in our bank accounts paying off things to make life easier for us.

The union should be ashamed of itself for its lack of representation when something happens.

Hey union members being silent is just as bad as being guilty in some ways. I did notice that when a union member was cast in a negative light with truths that we posted about him the union was sure to act swiftly and comment. How come when something happens on the street we dont get that kind of response from the union. Oh wait I know why because the union has no balls.

FOP and its members you should all be ashamed of the way you have represented this membership.

you are nothing but a dog and pony show manipulated by the mayor.

shame on you fop for being a FLOP

6/03/2010 03:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When SCC first started, Rich came to mind as the guy behind it.
He was a cynical SOB in 014, and I knew he was a computer guy.
But he got in the FOP and that all changed...all legit here

I/F

6/03/2010 03:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Don't worry next election a clean sweep will be done,even though old greg bella told Mike Shields not to run, and why did Mike agree? "The envelope please"?

6/03/2010 11:37:00 AM
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Mike is a great kid. But he is nuts if he runs for FOP president. For the uninformed Mayor Chuckie tried to do a Pearl Harbor (FOP words) on us a month ago. We won that little battle but we still have a war to fight with his little man. Shortshanks will not stop. 42 short is still burning after our little march when the IOC was here. If Mike were to be elected and the pension was changed to a two-tiered plan that’s what Mike will always be remembered for. I like Mike protecting our interests at the Pension Board. As far a Greg Bella goes until I see someone better he will be front runner in the next election. He was the first to call out J-Fled. I hear a lot of P.O.’s say I want, I want, I want.... but they never can answer the simple question of how do you get that. Anyone who answers I would negotiate harder is naive. There is no negotiation with this city. Every thing is grievance, arbitration, bring suit to the Labor Board, or a Federal lawsuit.

Half of the membership does not even vote in our elections and less than half of us are registered votes.

T.R.P.

6/03/2010 03:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When SCC first started, Rich came to mind as the guy behind it.
He was a cynical SOB in 014, and I knew he was a computer guy.
But he got in the FOP and that all changed...all legit here

I/F

6/03/2010 03:30:00 PM

I've seen Rich accused of being SCC many times on this site. If he really is SCC and this is his way of deflecting, it is the most awesome double reverse psychology mindfuck of all time. BRAVO, Rich!

6/03/2010 04:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP website looks like it was made in 1999. Even if they are only paying him about $300 it is too much.

6/03/2010 05:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have no problem with people questioning things. As police officers we bitch and moan about everything, but do little to change things. How many police officers voted in the last FOP election? I think the numbers were quite low. I have no problem with the FOP members getting paid for their time. I don't want the job so I'm glad someone else does. I can't speak for any other officer, but every time I've ever called the FOP, I always received a return call back immediately. I do know Rich. I worked with him in one of his former districts and he was always nice, always helpful and willing to stay late to answer questions. As far as him being a do nothing, he backed me up on jobs a few times, so I wouldn't call him lazy.

6/03/2010 05:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesus h. christ, is there nothing so trivial that some coppers cannot make a big deal over and complain complain complain?

Rich Aguilar isn't the enemy, richard m. daley is.

focus here like a laser, richard m daley = enemy, evil, poison, satan, beelzebub, the antichrist, 666, the beast

Please SCC, concentrate your considerable power to get the word out and get coppers registered to vote! And then vote against the force of evil in this town on Feb 22, 2011

6/03/2010 06:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My comment was on the other post and got deleted. Do a WHOIS search of bluelinewebs.com See who the registrant is...that would be: 'domainsbyproxy.com'.
then look and see who the technical and administrative contacts are..they are set to "PRIVATE".

At least he admits ownership in the letter on the FOP letterhead, but without SCC, we never would have found out.

6/03/2010 06:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"My 10 year old could make a better website than that. It's quite remedial."

I'm not a copper, this isn't a copper-related comment, non-coppers probably won't care. I work in web design.

Yes, it's a very simple site but sites like that can be surprisingly effective and even preferred by users. In my opinion the site is kinda ugly and it could use some search engine optimization, but anyone who's actually going to 'use' that site is going to know how to get there anyway and functionality is 90% of the game.

The days of heavy flash and graphics-intensive sites are very 2000-2002. These days, people want simplicity and streamlined information. The dirty rotten secret is, between pre-existing site templates and DIY stuff, you don't need to pay someone like me a lot of money to make a pretty effective website but as long as people don't know this, I stay in business.

6/03/2010 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SO LONG 023 !!!

I wish I had 4 mil, but i'm lucky that I got a job per da-mayo!

http://www.cityfeet.com/Commercial/ForSale/ChicagoCommercialRealEstateLocal/3600-N-Halsted-Street-Chicago-IL-60613-16646672L1031345L1.aspx

6/03/2010 06:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:44 am, AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

This question about RA could have easily been asked and answered without the drama. The cry babys posting on this site probably don't even mail in their ballots when we have FOP votes. The majority of the membership only have one question HOW MUCH ARE WE GETTING???? They don't even listen to common sense or have any idea how a complex contract is negotiated. Clearly there are more DUMMYCRATS posting on this site than I thought.

More and more SCC is just the pot calling the kettle black.

The facts of the matter is the FOP does a decent job (they could do better). How about talking to a rep and asking questions instead of yelling like an ape. I've never met a police officer who like being yelled at.

6/03/2010 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BULLSHIT RICH..Go C. Cortes for Financial Secretary in the next election....Rich it was all bullshit until you were in the FOP, then it became legit...Rich came to our unit and told us we had the best contract in the country cover to cover..you are stupid if you think we believe that shit....

6/03/2010 09:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic, what do you guys think of the Allstate Accident group insurance coverage available via FOP? I just got an app in the mail. I'm thinking of signing up, I had combined ins and canceled after every 3-4 months they insisted my credit card was declined for payment and my coverage would lapse.

6/03/2010 09:52:00 PM  
Anonymous meath-ead that us NOT innuendo?!?!?! said...

Why does our esteemed FLOP financial secretary AND field rep get captains pay? Try paying attention whilst attending all the FOP meatings -- the best and the brightest -- read our constitution no clout allowed.

6/03/2010 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RICH WANTS TO BE FOP PRESIDENT! NO WAY PAL!

6/03/2010 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who cares

6/04/2010 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

off topic, what do you guys think of the Allstate Accident group insurance coverage available via FOP? I just got an app in the mail. I'm thinking of signing up, I had combined ins and canceled after every 3-4 months they insisted my credit card was declined for payment and my coverage would lapse.

6/03/2010 09:52:00 PM


The insurance committee, made up of trustees and unit reps, worked on this for over a year. We heard proposals from many insurance companies. Allstate looked to be the best deal, the most coverage at the best rates. It seemed to be a better deal than the Combined I have been carrying for 25 years.

Understand that over the years Combined cost me nothing. Accident and injury claims etc. paid the premiums several times over.

I won't hesitate to drop Combined and get the Allstate. Your results may vary. Make your own judgement. I get nothing from Allstate for going with them. I have no Allstate stock, no relatives promised jobs, nothing at all in the usual Chicago (daley) way.

They made their pitch, we took our vote. Period.

6/04/2010 05:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jesus h. christ, is there nothing so trivial that some coppers cannot make a big deal over and complain complain complain?

Rich Aguilar isn't the enemy, richard m. daley is.

focus here like a laser, richard m daley = enemy, evil, poison, satan, beelzebub, the antichrist, 666, the beast

Please SCC, concentrate your considerable power to get the word out and get coppers registered to vote! And then vote against the force of evil in this town on Feb 22, 2011

6/03/2010 06:10:00 PM

Amen. This election is key. Do we stay Chicago or change our name to New Detroit? Register, vote, put a sign in your lawn for the 'Other Guy', get your neighbors out after you talk to them and encourage the blockheads we work with to do the same. Amen.

6/04/2010 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mike Shields is our Pension rep. FOP did not endorse him. Shields does not take his marching orders from Greg Bella. Are you fucking kidding.

6/04/2010 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least Rich is updating the FOP website at a minimum of once a month.

When he was 014 Unit Rep the FOP bulletin board in the roll call room hadn't been updated in 5 years, it still had stuff from the early 1990s on it and this was in the late 1990s.

Keep up the good work Rich.

6/04/2010 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with 6/03/2010 05:49:00 PM. I worked on the watch with Rich in 014 for 3 years back in the late 90's. And, yeah, he was a smug arrogant know-it-all.

But, he handled his jobs, he didn't dog things, and most importantly he backed you up. I remember getting into it with a King for some now long forgotten reason up around North and Kedzie. The POS had penitentiary muscles, but I was winning. Rich was 1st car (and, I think, only car) to come back me up.

So, yeah, a smug arrogant know-it-all, sure! And probably worse now. But he did his job on the street when it counted.

--An Old Retired Sgt

6/04/2010 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I for one, think you're doing a great job SCC. The F.O.P. has to be kept in check. They are only out for themselves, always thinking about how to screw us over to better themselves after retirement.

6/04/2010 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's sad in my opinion is that we have so many officers defending the FOP when this post is merely about how OUR money is being spent. With the cost of our dues, the FOP takes in Millions a year. I for one want an accounting if every frigin cent. Any of you who don't have just not got tired of the BS. I hope one day you will. There is no reason to pay so much for so little. There have been several issues that have affected the MEMBERS of this organization yet the FOP Board says nothing to the citizens, the media, the department. I don't want to pay for silence and bullshit negotiation, golf days and trips to Florida. I want a union that actuallly cares about it's members. My opinion is that this one is corrupted. Being concerned about the use of our ever increasing dues is very legitimate. To expect the FOP leadership to make sacrifices such as we are forced to is certainly not an attack. We should not have to ask them to do so.

6/04/2010 11:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Half of the membership does not even vote in our elections and less than half of us are registered votes.

T.R.P.


Hey TRP it's funny you mention that. The last election the FOP had, I got my ballot the same week it was due back to FOP. This totally pissed me off. I still filled it out immediately and sent it in. I wo deer if it was counted. I'm not the only one to receive impossibly late ballots. I'm sick of the crooked shit. Who's mistake was that?

6/04/2010 11:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one made the FOP raise our dues when we were already without a contract. I don't care if it was negotiated prior. They can vote to be humane but choose not to. What expenses do they gave that have risen so greatly as they increase they take from every officer. Sorry I am not and will never be a lemming. I think they have a lot of explaining to do. A lot.

6/04/2010 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Grow some balls and vote them out. Run for the positions, get your fellow POs whom you trust to get off their asses and run. Take the FOP back from these hacks. Otherwise sit down and shut up. Hell, 40% of the FOP members aren't even registered to vote in our government elections. No wonder we get shit on over and over again.

6/04/2010 11:53:00 PM  
Anonymous half of 42% is a FLOP majority said...

"Grow some balls and vote them out. Run for the positions, get your fellow POs whom you trust to get off their asses and run. Take the FOP back from these hacks. Otherwise sit down and shut up. Hell, 40% of the FOP members aren't even registered to vote in our government elections. No wonder we get shit on over and over again."

That's what Rick and the Shitty-wide Team said all those years ago when they ran the gauntlet to replace Nolan and the Boyz.

The next group of hacks will say the same thing: vote for us, we'll make things right.

6/05/2010 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The board at the FOP at least had the courage to kick out the biggest do nothing.. JC .. Feel sorry for whoever got him.

6/05/2010 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Their working so hard they can't return phone calls.

6/05/2010 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We get what we pay for? Do not vote for anyone who currently holds a FOP office.

6/06/2010 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The next group of hacks will say the same thing: vote for us, we'll make things right.

6/05/2010 08:55:00 AM"



vote for me and i'll shove it so far up your ass you'll be tasting it for months.

do i have your vote?

6/06/2010 07:16:00 PM  

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