Splitting Hairs
- Chicago may severely limit the number of handguns that can be kept in a single home and ban gun dealers within city limits in the wake of Monday's landmark U.S. Supreme Court decision that gutted the city’s handgun ban, City Hall’s top attorney said today.
The court's ruling “did not say that a person is entitled to more than one handgun, and one handgun is sufficient for self defense,” Corporation Counsel Mara Georges told aldermen at a City Council committee meeting. “We believe that a limitation on the number of handguns to one per person per residence would be consistent with the Supreme Court’s decisions.”
We believe this has been tried and failed before. Government doesn't get to tell people how many cars to own, how many houses to own, how many phones, radios, computers, etc. If we want to own half a dozen handguns, that's our business, not theirs.
We can't wait to see the procedural roadblocks Shortshanks starts to throw up. The Department can't even run rifle and striker-fire transitions courses for officers. If he tries to task the Department with "qualifying" new gun owners, we expect waiting lists to be years long.
We can't wait to see the procedural roadblocks Shortshanks starts to throw up. The Department can't even run rifle and striker-fire transitions courses for officers. If he tries to task the Department with "qualifying" new gun owners, we expect waiting lists to be years long.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
124 Comments:
Looks like this may only be the beginning. Conceal carry next?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100630/ap_on_go_su_co/us_supreme_court_guns
I'll limit myself to one firearm when the Chicago Police Department limits meritorious promotions to the same number.
Even one bite at the merit apple is one too many for the lion's share of the nincompoops that hold any title above Patrolman on this job.
"We believe that a limitation on the number of handguns to one per person per residence would be consistent with the Supreme Court's decisions", said Mara Georges.
"Go fuck yourself, Mara", said West Side, Inside Do-Nothing.
"If he tries to task the Department with "qualifying" new gun owners, we expect waiting lists to be years long."
Maybe that's part of his plan.
He's a devious bastard, y'know.
..."We can't wait to see the procedural roadblocks Shortshanks starts to throw up. The Department can't even run rifle and striker-fire transitions courses for officers. If he tries to task the Department with "qualifying" new gun owners, we expect waiting lists to be years long."
SCC: THAT is exactally what the City wants! They want it impossible for anyone to be able to LEAGLY own a handgun!
Limit the mayor's detail to 2 cops a driver and a valet WTF joe blow cant defend himself please how democratic is that concept
Here we go again, the Democratic Big Government telling the honest people what they can and can't have or do, while the non-working shit bag of America can do and have whatever they want knowing the Democratic system will let them get away with murder. Just ask the guys in BR-50 how much crime pays.
What is the big deal with the mayor and guns? Is it really the beginning of communism that Daley is starting? Or is it a personal thing? I don't get it. I've lived with guns my whole life. I shot at a target at 9 years old. I've shot at moving targets when I was a teen and have become proficient. I respect guns.I am proud to be an American who has a right to bear arms. I have never robbed anyone, nor plan to do so. I do not want to murder anyone, nor would abuse the right to have a gun to do so.
What is the mayor's problem?
I think every working person in the household should be entitled to have a weapon. After all the city and county want you to count all income of every working person in your household in order to ascertain if you qualify for a tax break (regardless of whether they contribute to your mortgage). Let's make it even steven across the board.
So will Daley be paying for the lawsuits when the city fails to qualify citizens fast enough? I have practiced quite a bit with my various guns and don't need to be qualified. Not to mention that I don't feel I should have to pay to exercise my rights. If the city can't afford ammo for cops, do they have ammo for the thousands of citizens who will be purchasing firearms?
Let me carry my damned Glock 26 and I will be fine.
And while you are at it, hire some officers. The city is shorthanded and I am amongst many who await another test.
God Bless the CPD and nobody else.
OT
VERY IMPORTANT!
Please read.
As of 01 July, the photo enforcement on expressways will begin to be enforced in work zones.
A van taking pictures of the driver and the license plate will be taken for drivers going JUST one (1) minute over the speed limit.
First ticket, $375...Second ticket will be $1000 with a 90 day suspension.
Pass this on.
City gon' do this, city gon' do that.
Are you getting the feeling that no one is listening anymore?
People are going to arm themselves, the same way they always have -- and like SCC noted, most of the time, when dealing with decent folk, the police don't even know the guns are there.
If some heroin addict (we're tops in the U.S., you know) climbs into the bedroom window in the middle of the night he's gonna get blasted before he gets anywhere near the kids sleeping down the hall.
Maybe if citizens take a page from the street thugs and learn to keep their mouths shut and quickly stuff the body into an abandoned car and light the whole thing off, we'll be in even better shape.
What's the homicide clearance rate here now -- 27% or something? Maybe we can get it lower than that and save even more time and money.
Remember -- use of even an unregistered weapon in an act of self-defense is an affirmative defense against city ordinances. It's the law.
Also remember -- you can purchase and register (if you can keep up with the paperwork) an even more lethal rifle or shotgun, too. Always could. So Ja'mal there gets blown across the room like a rag doll by one thunderous center-mass shot from an old .30-'06 and is dead before he hits the floor.
Dead be dead. Who cares what Mara Georges thinks?
I went to an NRA basis pistol course with my teenage son last weekend in Freeport, IL. Fifteen students attended but there was room for forty. We had four hours of classroom and four hours of range. We took a written test and received certificates of completion. The class was a refresher for me and safely introduced my son to revolvers and pistols. I have not read the city's proposed ordinance but I think this course should be a consideration.
The one gun per person to avoid straw purchasers is a joke. The city is just opening itself up to future court challenges. Straw purchasers will still buy guns out of state to get around chicago ordinances. If the gun is registered in Chicago eventually it will be recovered if used in a crime. Write an ordinance that included large monetary damages if found to be a straw purchaser and enforce it.
Guns don't kill people, the reckless scumbag, criminal, piece of Sh** pulling the trigger kill people. Don't hurt the legit tax paying, no criminal background citizens. The bad guys don't care and will never care about the laws on the books, only the good guys will. Get your head out of your azz Mayor Daley and come to realize that...
As far as that midget wanting the department to qualify people, you're dead on. Waiting lists years long. Keep quiet on that subject. We don't want to give that angry little dwarf any ideas.
More bullshit from the mayor who can't run city hiring without getting the city sued (spending OUR tax money) numerous times and having people indicted and thrown in prison and who can't remember who appointed the guy to run the hired truck program.
So now he spends city tax money on more suits because you know this will be challenged and any ordinance will be a paper tiger anyway.
Who is going to enforce the ordinance? Us? hah! Any future handgun law won't be any more effective than the present one. So legislate away. Citizens will laugh at silly handgun limiting ordinances.
The lawful citizen doesn't care anymore. Daley lost, end of story.
The fucking ASA's in this county don't even prosecute gang members caught with hand guns now half the time. You think they will prosecute a citizen who has never been arrested and has more than one handgun?? Give me a break.
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The court's ruling “did not say that a person is entitled to more than one handgun, and one handgun is sufficient for self defense,” Corporation Counsel Mara Georges told aldermen at a City Council committee meeting. “We believe that a limitation on the number of handguns to one per person per residence would be consistent with the Supreme Court’s decisions.”
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Does that mean the mayor will only have one gun, er body guard?
Yeah, good luck with that. Not going to fly. The constitution covers all people, not just one member of a household.
Who will be responsible for training the 10% estimated to purchase handguns? And that is a very conservative estimate by the city. The NRA? A private range? A newly formed company contracted by the city? Or the critically short CPD? The new mandates will put such a demand on the CPD that officers on the street will never receive yearly training. No one in the press ever addressed who will provide the 5 hours of training? Who will register the new weapons and test them? Sounds like a huge windfall for new consultants and non-bid contracts for those connected to city hall.
Nine more years and I'm gone. Can't live nine more minutes of this city.
Chicago's gun control ordinances, including the new ones that will come out soon, do not fight violent crime and will not protect so-called first responders. Even with a handgun ban and a hostile environment for the possession by good guys of long guns, violent crime in Chicago is among the highest in the nation. Chicago's alderpersons are about to pass another ordinance infringing on the rights of the good guys, an ordinance that will not prevent the bad guys from carry arms while cruising the hood. Of course, the attorneys for the City will be paid big money for defending the indefensible.
Jesus, give it up Daley!
---not a cop
Shortshanks will be litigated if he goes overboard with the restrictions. Guns are like flashlights, first aid kits or any other emergency device. You need a spare in case the first one fails. Two is one and one is none. I do agree with some kind of training requirments, when the average person gets a gun in hand the first thing they do is point the thing in an unsafe direction. You see this alot in gun shops. Muzzle and trigger guard discipline needs to be pounded into peoples heads before they lay hands on a weapon.
Let the good times roll!
Did you really think that Shortshanks would just admit defeat and leave it at that? He'll just bankroll this into another money making scam for friends and family.
Does anyone remember which aldercreatures pushed for private security to work the strip malls in their wards? These guys are armed. Who trained them? Did they get trained through their respective companies? If so, how many of these aldercreatures,family, and friends have financial interest in them?
Who is to say they didn't see this coming? Faced with the real possibility of SCOTUS overturning the 30 year handgun ban, you stop hiring police because they say the city can't afford to hire. You then complain that your ward is not getting the police service that you, as aldercreature, say it is entitled to. You then push for private security to work your ward, say starting in commercial property like strip malls.
Now the day has come that your beloved hand gun ban is found unconstitutional by the highest court in the land so now as a result you start to put together a myriad of rules and regulations that will essentially make it impossible a law abiding citizen to legally own and store a hand gun in their private residence.
One of those rules is that each citizen must have a specific amount of training before they can have their gun. But who will do the training? CPD? I doubt it. We can't even get time on our own ranges to practice let alone teach private citizens how to handle a gun.
Here is where the private security firms step in. They will "offer" the use of the same ranges they use to train their employees. Daley and the 50 thieves will jump at that idea, especially if the price is right.
So now you have another avenue of income for Daley and the 50 thieves to exploit.
Here's hoping that some up and coming journalist will keep a watchful eye on this. It would make for some good reading.
Every point in all of the new pending legislation from City Hall is meant to deny access to a firearm.
What part of "shall not be infringed" doesn't Shortshanks get?
J-Fled is also about as stupid as they come. Is he even capable of an original thought?
Who controls our Media? Really, how can you say it is not controlled? There are some giant stories out there. The Ernie Brown story alone would have been the hit of the news hour and made a splashy front page.....but not a word. Pulling down the Blago wire too soon (again, why?). Jimmy Olsen, cub reporter, could have been looking at a Pulitzer. Again, not a word.
If you pay for the papers in this town, you are being manipulated. Scrap the papers. Get your information yourself.
two Tampa Florida Police Officers shot/killed. OfficerDown.com
If Shorty demands a "Safety Course" where will it be?
Retired cops have to go to Will County to get their HR218 Cards.
By the way, how did we miss this.
How is it Anita Alverez can get a California plumber extradited to Chicago for making a telephone threat to Shorty in a matter of days yet ignores cases of Agg. Batt. to P.O.s?
The threat was to stick a gun up his but, now where have we heard this before?
If they want citizens to take a gun safety course and qualify with it at the range to familiarize themselves with their gun of choice all they have to do is allow them to go to a reputable firearms course anywhere in the state, pay a minimal fee, get a certificate and that's it. This way they're no waiting on some stupid list. You register your gun, pay the fee and go home.
Two Florida cops killed yesterday on a traffic stop. Becareful out there
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/29/florida.police.shot/index.html
Fear More The Man Who Wishes to Limit Your Access to a Firearm, For He Has Further Designs On Your Liberty.
Mayor Daley and his minions NEED to lose their jobs!
I'm soooo tired of Mayor Daley and company whiny bullshit!
This Mayor took several times to pass his own bar exam!
I can see why he thinks he is better than the U.S. Constitution and Supreme Court Judges!
I will NEVER ever vote for that loser! Anyone who does vote Mayor Daley and Aldercreatures deserve a fuckin beat down Old school style!
Da Pelon!
THE LAW DOESNT SAY U GUN NEEDS TO FIRE MORE THAN 1 SHOT EITHER.
OR IT DOESNT SAY WHAT KINDA OF CALIBER WEAPON U MAY HAVE.
DA MAYOR IS WASTING MONEY AGAIN!!!
INSTEAD OF CREATING MORE JOB CUTTING WASTE AND NOT STEALING PENSIONS.
GIVE UP UR DETAIL AND UR UNIFORMED OFFICER AS UR DESK DOLLY.
GIVE UP UR DRIVER PRICKY!
GIVE UP UR FREE TRIPS ON FREE JETS.
GIVE UP ALL THAT FREE CASH UR LIMPING WIFE TAKES ON UR BEHALF FROM ALL THOSE "CHARITIES" LINED UP 4 GRANT ALA "BLAGO STYLE".
WATCH THE ALDERMAN THEY MAY WANT TO SNEAK IN CHARGING OFFICERS FOR EACH WEAPON ITS BEEN SAID!
Does this mean those Area gun teams can now go back to District Law Enforcement where their bodies are needed?
You can bet that the insurance and safety courses will be run by private companies who have a connection to the right people. The mayor is intending to make gun ownership costly and prohibitive for most people, something I think will be struck down by the courts.Have the alderman give up their guns and the mayor and his cronies give up their bodyguards, then we will talk
Thank you NRA for kicking Shortshanks in his fat flabby ass and allowing Chicago to rejoin the USA.
I see it now:
own A vehicle- one sticker and you're good.
own A pet- one tag and you're good.
rehab A building- one permit covers it all.
you get the picture...
Thanks shortyshanks and georges,
you'll save us a lot $$$ now that we know the definition of what "A" means.
"A"... It sounds Clintonian, like defining what "IS" is, it still never hides the facts. Oral sex is sex.
When a person begins to weedle-wangle (twist and turn things to fit their cause).They alwats lose.
Like little kids who change the rules on a game with their younger siblings, to win.
It always comes back to bite them in the ass. The sibling inveritably comes up with the same circumstance that big brother had and calls him on it..."You said"...
Only in the younger sib's case this one sets up as the game winner.
This is where "chucky" tosses the game board over and storms away.
we'll pace ourselves chucky
SO when a homeowner shoots a guy doing a home invasion the mayor will take away his one and only gun leaving him defenseless again, or will they lend him one like they do with us when they take our gun away after a shooting? This is nonsense. Guns are legal products just like any other legal product. Once again he tries to take rights away from the law abiding while doing nothing to the criminal. Seriously, do you think the criminal will only have one gun because the mayor says so? I bet he'll but the insurance too. Now where's that deed to my bridge I have for sale?
I am now convinced that the Mayor is nuts. One handgun per eligible person, per home?
What's next, he's going to tell coppers that they can only have one duty related weapon? I've amassed 5 duty related ones over the past 25 years as times have changed.
All this is going to do is make lawyers (on both sides) rich. The city will end out farming this out and the ISRA, NRA, etc. will be paying their own lawyers. My dues and tax money has better uses.
Who will run these safety classes? The range guys? A private company? The gun stores?
Who will shoot and then collect the rounds and casings for forensic inventories?
My neighbor was asking about buying a handgun, I told him to wait. I can just see the area gun teams just chomping at the bit to get sales records for city residents.
All this will do is make some lawyers richer.
The city will farm this out making some connected LaSalle Street firm's partners richer.
The NRA, ISRA and other assorted plantiffs will make their lawyers richer.
This is a game to take more money from taxpayers and dues-payers.
One handgun per eligible person? Does that mean that the five duty related weapons I've bought over the last 25 years are going to be illegal?
Can you imagine citizens coming to local area ranges (if they are open) to qualify? Who is going to collect the slugs and casings for future forensic testing?
The Mayor is really losing it. All he needed to do the other day was begin to start crying for the cameras.
Why won't they just give up?
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms … disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants, they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” — Thomas Jefferson Damn these guys were fucking smart!!!!!!! hey shortshanks read your history!!!!!
According to our mayor the presence of guns increases the chances of someone being harmed
So given this, I would like to propose a new Mayoral and Aldermanic Protection Act.
Under this law guns will not be allowed within 100 feet of these individuals. Cancel their protective details. Before one of those officers guns jumps up out of its holster and harms someone.
The Mayor and our Aldermen are the cities most precious resource. We can't simply shouldn't take the risk, as explained by our mayor, of have firearms in their presence.
ot reuce number of command staff
does cps need chiefs , deputy chiefs , deputy superintendets ,assistant deputy superintendents
keep a few trusted exempts and reassign others to cpd rank of lt and captain
be honest to many chiefs not enough indians on cpd
The Supreme Court didn't say that you can't call Shortshanks a fuck face either, so let's just all do that.
"But if someone has a gun and is trying to kill you ... it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama
Shaved has this posted:
Raises and Retro Checks
The Lodge has been advised that the pay raise that was awarded in Arbitrator Benn's contract award will start on July 1, 2010. Members will see this increase on their July 16, 2010 paycheck.
The Lodge has also been advised that members can expect retro checks on Monday, August 9, 2010.
Members who are enrolled in direct deposit will receive their checks via direct deposit. Members who currently receive a live check will receive a live check.
Retirees who retired after July 1, 2007 are entitled to retro pay. Retirees will receive their checks via US Mail. Retirees are encouraged to contact the Finance Division and speak with Colletta at 312-745-5820 to verify their current mailing address that is on file with the Department.
A Special Bulletin will be posted by the Department that explains the payment process.
"Here comes the Judge!"
Taurus revolver, .45 long cold & .410 ga. shotgun all in one neat package.
Unless they make a bigger badder piece?
Citizens of Chicago should file a lawsuit against da Mayor and da 50 theives for CIVIL RIGHTS violation.
What a waste of legal people. Talk about frivolous lawsuits.
Move on.
The Daley-Georges Brain Fart falls under the catagory of "Infringing" The Peoples Right to Keep and Bear Arms [Arms=more than one] [not Arm]-[one firearm] Shall not be Infringed.
Daley- Quit WASTING THE TAXPAYERS MONEY ON YOUR HALF-BAKED IDEAS, and incorrect interpretations of the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.... You should be hiring police officers, firefighters, teachers, etc; instead of constantly wasting OUR money. Kindly WASTE your own Money, not our Tax dollars...Dope
THAT is exactally what the City wants! They want it impossible for anyone to be able to LEAGLY own a handgun!
-- the city is being watched an will be challenged immediately if they try to roadblock people.
Another poster posed the question, "What is the big deal with
Daley and guns?" I don't think anyone has the answer to that, except maybe him. It is strange, all the facts give lie to his position, shootings, number of illegal guns, crime stats where concealed carry becomes law and on and on ad infinitum. It just doesn't make sense and gives some indication of just how maniacally stubborn he is. If they try to limit numbers or make registration onerous, I am pretty sure he will lose the fight. The problem is, I suspect he realizes that and simply wants to throw roadblocks up, in order to inconvenience his citizens. It makes no sense. I am pretty sure that limiting numbers or charging ridiculous fees would amount to "infringing," thank God.
Just ignore mayor-child. We're talking ordnance violation here. You will only be using one gun at a time to defend yourself.
Citizens, start calling the police for everything, if the hair stands up on the back of your neck, or you get a funny feeling in your stomach call the police. If even a flower pot is stolen from your property report it.
This way you establish that mayor-child and the police department are not able to protect every citizen at every moment.
Most importantly, vote mayor-child out of office! Your alderthief too.
........ Pulling down the Blago wire too soon (again, why?). Jimmy Olsen, cub reporter, could have been looking at a Pulitzer. Again, not a word.
6/30/2010 07:48:00 AM
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..the answer to pulling the Blago wire is in the book 'Triple Cross' by Peter Lance
...Fitzgerald has been 'questionable' for at least 15 years...
Two Florida cops killed yesterday on a traffic stop. Becareful out there
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/06/29/florida.police.shot/index.html
6/30/2010 08:11:00 AM
Huge manhunt underway in Tampa.
I hope they catch him quick.
Freedom means Freedom!
Anonymous said...
The fucking ASA's in this county don't even prosecute gang members caught with hand guns now half the time. You think they will prosecute a citizen who has never been arrested and has more than one handgun?? Give me a break.
6/30/2010 03:39:00 AM
OH YES THEY WILL!
On orders from Shortshanks they will attack the honest homeowner citizen who might vote Republican faster than piranhas in a bloodbath. There will be a paper trail and they will want to set an example. Just look what the A.S.A.s did about that guy from California who threatened to put a gun up Daley's butt on the phone.
The trick will be not to make that arrest, (hint to Area Gun Teams if a gun owner does not have a criminal record, leave them alone, find gangbangers with guns). This may get to be another case of where honest cops not only have to protect the good citizens from the badguys, but also from the city itself.
6/30/2010 01:34:37 PM
A van taking pictures of the driver and the license plate will be taken for drivers going JUST one (1) minute over the speed limit.
First ticket, $375...Second ticket will be $1000 with a 90 day suspension.
Pass this on.
6/30/2010 01:43:00 AM
this is complete and utter Bullshit! there's no way to prove who is driving. are these James Bond / CIA vans where the cameras are equipped with face recognition software?
quit trying to be a moron
I can see it now, Mr. Law Abiding D-Bag standing in the booth next me qualifing. That's a plausible scenario. Or the Maggie Daley Memorial Firearms Range operated by Vanecko Corp.
Illinois (not just Chicago) better wake UP.
You want to pass some new laws and ordinances. Try these:
1) Anyone receiving state/fed entitlements - LINK, medicaid, social security disability, etc. MUST take a urine test to qualify for payments. Just like a job.
Test positive and you fail to get the entitlement. Random tests every quarter with each recipient test a minimum of once a year. Fail once, banned for life.
2) Not a citizen, no entitlements.
3) ANY fraudulent use of LINK cards - whether buyer or seller (store owner) - immediate ban from program for life.
4) Anyone without car insurance. Confiscation of car. Revocation of license. End of story.
Too strict? These are all privileges, NOT RIGHTS granted by taxpayers who have to pay for them - NOT POLITICIANS who hand them out like candy for votes.
HATER said...
THE LAW DOESNT SAY U GUN NEEDS TO FIRE MORE THAN 1 SHOT EITHER.
OR IT DOESNT SAY WHAT KINDA OF CALIBER WEAPON U MAY HAVE.
DA MAYOR IS WASTING MONEY AGAIN!!!
He jsut may do that, revolvers only or small magazines. Nothing larger than a .38 Special. Maybe even a shoot to would or warn "I have a gun!" first policy.
o/t have you seen the "low hanging fruit" message from Ernie?
priceless
The fucking ASA's in this county don't even prosecute gang members caught with hand guns now half the time. You think they will prosecute a citizen who has never been arrested and has more than one handgun?? Give me a break.
6/30/2010 03:39:00 AM
Actually, a person like that the ASAs will probably prosecute. Because a person like that isn't protected by the west side make believe rev'runs, a/k/a Daley's and Alvarez's advisory councils.
Shorty won't let retired P.O.s qualify in the shitty. Where is he going to find time and space to qualify citizens. Oh, I forgot, the vanecko gun range and insurance company is opening soon with Patrick as CEO. Qualifying in use of the baseball bat will be included as part of the package deal.
Corporation Counsel Mara Georges is a legal idiot! The first amendment allows us free speech: It doesn't limit us to one spoken word; and the second amendment doesn't limit us to one firearm in the house.
OT but funny anyway
It seems the Commander of 014 left her snubby and ammo in her company car by her house FOR 12 HOURS when someone broke in and stole it. The AIRA case report lists a bbry charger and cell phone chargers at property 1 and property 2 and says "see hard copy" in the narrative. The main list of ttys (amfn's) says P.O. LF so as not to catch anyones eye.
Whats the big coverup? Maybe the fact that she left her weapon in her vehicle overnight (1915-0715 hrs. Wheres the CR#???
6/29/2010 09:45:00 PM
Meh, not a fan of guns.
But on the one side, it's the right to bear armS, plural.
On the other side, how would you gun advocates take to people forming a militia?
whore lawyers, including the mayor, will keep wasting our tax money because asshole daley had a hissie-fit. I'm A civilian and I will keep as many guns as Ii want. Fuck this communist city government.
Go ahead Mara George, face a civil rights lawsuit. That's right, gun ownership has finally been recognized as a fundamental individual right. Knowing this, your futile attempts at circumventing (does Gov. George Wallace ring a bell you idiot)this could possibly result in personal liabiltiy for you, so go ahead fall on your sword for the great dimwit.
all the alderpeople and their PEOPLE carry guns so screw everyone else. This is all cover for the fact that they can not protect the no voice taxpayers nor can they provide the service they are paying for. Some station ,TV or radio, should play the tapes of the jobs they give out on the zones that never get serviced due to lack of people power in the districts. By the way, didnt the double dip shit Jodi get hired to run both OEMC and what is left of the CPD?? Howd that work out ?????
"J-Fled is also about as stupid as they come. Is he even capable of an original thought?"
Stupid or not, it doesn't matter. He's not permitted to have his own thought. See what $310k/year can buy you?
How is it Anita Alverez can get a California plumber extradited to Chicago for making a telephone threat to Shorty in a matter of days yet ignores cases of Agg. Batt. to P.O.s?
The threat was to stick a gun up his but, now where have we heard this before?
6/30/2010 08:09:00 AM
Again, where was the Media? That's a big splashy story and no mention?
How many millions has the midget wasted on the gun ban, the appeals and whatever else he can come up with. Now we pay to have a plumber flown in for practically quoting Daley's press conference? But no money for police officers to protect the taxpayers. Daley has to go. We are circling the drain here.
"What part of "shall not be infringed" doesn't Shortshanks get?"
Any of it. He's a spoiled, petulant man-child. When he doesn't get his way, you have to watch out.
Wow, I couldn't read all the comments, so I may be repeating everyone.
First, why not limit Daley to 1 bodyguard. Actually, how about he gets the same number of body guards as everyone else, 0.
Second, they think the constitution doesn't say people can have more than one gun. ARMS. Daley must have gone to a CPS because the "S" at the end of arm makes it plural.
Daley is determined to bankrupt the taxpaying citizens and blame it on the "gun industry" and "gun lobby" when it's his own contempt for freedom that's bankrupting his subjects.
This Daley is really making me mad now. Sure, cut city services, lay off teachers, settle cases out of court to gangbanger Ghetto Lottery winners, then spend HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS fighting a battle that they knowingly have no chance in hell of winning. I'd love to see one of our newspapers do a story on the amount of money the city spends fighting these losing cases. UNBELIEVABLE. Daley should be made to personally pay for these cases, obviously the citizens do not agree with his policy.
I'm so glad that in the state & county I live in they still have Rifles & Shotguns in a racks behind the seat of the pickups . Fuck You Daley .
Guns don't kill people. People with mustaches kill people!!
Another thought, maybe you coppers should just arrest the mayor for crimes against the Constitution and let the feds sort it out.
How about it? PLEEEEZEEE
The superintendent also talked about following Washington’s lead by requiring revolvers to be unloaded and either disassembled or secured with trigger locks unless homeowners have reason to fear a home intruder.'s J-Fleds opinion . Does that mean that he has to keep his gun locked up because he's never around to be scared . He flee's before the fact .
let daily call 911 like every other citizen , if he needs body guards let him pay out of his pocket like other executives
i'm sure he'll get a better police response than joe 6 pack or citizens of englewoods
where's dugan assigned
i hope he's a unit c.o. and doesn't have to work for some pissed off captain on 1st or 3rd watch
hippy-dippy-1 said...
Another poster posed the question, "What is the big deal with
Daley and guns?" I don't think anyone has the answer to that, except maybe him. It is strange, all the facts give lie to his position, shootings, number of illegal guns, crime stats where concealed carry becomes law and on and on ad infinitum. It just doesn't make sense and gives some indication of just how maniacally stubborn he is. If they try to limit numbers or make registration onerous, I am pretty sure he will lose the fight. The problem is, I suspect he realizes that and simply wants to throw roadblocks up, in order to inconvenience his citizens. It makes no sense. I am pretty sure that limiting numbers or charging ridiculous fees would amount to "infringing," thank God.
6/30/2010 12:09:00 PM
THE BIG DEAL IS: Daley has been blaming inatimate objects-guns for decades, instead of admitting his own ineptitude in significantly lowering violent crime in his city. If there were no guns, he would find something else to blame, anything except his own incompetence. If the crime rate does drop significantky in the City, due to the tossing of Comrade Daley's draconian, unconstitutional gun ordinances, [aka Daley Cash Cow] he Daley will take credit for it and say it is due to one of his Bullshit programs. Everyone, except Daley, views him to be an imbicile, who thinks he is smarter than the common everyday taxpayer, but Daley is, of course, wrong again, as usual. People see thru his bullshit and incompetence. Go ahead and run again Daley, you are bound to lose this time around, and the only one who doesn't realize this is you and your criminal cabal of yes men lackeys..
OT, but thought you might be interested:
http://consumerist.com/2010/06/chicago-provides-city-vehicle-stickers-that-lack-one-important-feature.html
Daley and his crime family would hate to be confronted by any armed citizens fed up with their thievery. That is the reason he is against guns. Criminal don't care about rules/laws and daley knows this. This is why all ordiances created since dick has been in office affects the law abiding citizen only. Criminal respect other criminal at the top of their game, so they are the one's who will vote for lil dick next election. Politians, Judges and ASA's are all apart of what's wrong with the system.
>Politicians fail to create common sense laws.
>Judges fail to sentence repeat offenders. Only 1st time misdemeanor are sentenced fully.
>ASA's fail to prosecute without a full confession. They only persue cases involving police and 1st time offenders.
For those that don't know him, Major General Peter Cosgrove is an Australian.
>
> General Cosgrove was interviewed on the radio recently.
> Read his reply to the lady who interviewed him concerning guns and children.
> Regardless of how you feel about gun laws you have to love this! This is one of the best comeback lines of all time.
> In a portion of an ABC radio interview between a female broadcaster and General Cosgrove who was about to sponsor a Boy Scout Troop visiting his military Headquarters.
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> FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
> So, General Cosgrove, what things are you going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?
>
> GENERAL COSGROVE:!
> We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery and shooting.
>
>
> FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
> Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?
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> GENERAL COSGROVE:
> I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the rifle range.
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> FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
> Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?
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> GENERAL COSGROVE:
> I don't see how. We will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.
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> FEMALE INTERVIEWER:
> But you're equipping them to become violent killers.
>
> GENERAL COSGROVE:
> Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?
>
> The radiocast went silent for 46 seconds and when it returned, this interview was over.
Why is Daley against law abiding citizens owning guns? I think I may have the answer.
It all began back in 1983 when he saw the movie A Christmas Story. Having lived through a particularly difficult childhood himself, Daley could relate to the main theme of the movie which was little Ralphie Parker trying to convince his parents to get him the Red Ryder BB Gun for Christmas.
However, unlike the movie, where little Ralphie gets his wish, little Richie never did. And he has carried that trauma with him all his life.
Now as Mayor, he wishes to get his revenge. So, as Ralphie's parents told him, so Richie tells all of us: YOU DON'T WANT A HAND GUN. YOU'LL SHOOT YOUR EYE OUT!
Limit the mayor's detail to 2 cops a driver and a valet WTF joe blow cant defend himself please how democratic is that concept
6/30/2010 01:06:00 AM
Please explain why the asshole mayor needs any police detail.(He doesn't like the police anyway) In other cities the taxpayers do not waste money on a mayor detail and their mayors get along fine with no bodyguards.
A van taking pictures of the driver and the license plate will be taken for drivers going JUST one (1) minute over the speed limit.
One minute over the speed limit? What? Are they going to be sitting there with stop watches?
It is none of Chicago's business what I do in the privacy of my own home, just as long as it is not ILLEGAL. Owning a handgun is NOT ILLEGAL, but a Constitutional guaranteed RIGHT, so I don't care what daley or any of his minions have to say, they can FUCK-OFF already. Enough is ENOUGH already. VOTE THESE COCK SUCKERS OUT!!!!!!
The citizens don't get it. Every law that is passed takes away more of our freedom. Shortshanks is all about control.
OT: Pod cameras caught the shooting but cant I.D. shooter. Vic refuses to prosecute. So exactly what good are they? Didn't come off the pole and make an arrest, keep wasting money.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81022409/
Blaming guns is used by politicians to get the spotlight off themselves... To distract their failure to make any progress on gang crime.
This proves that the little midget has lost his fucking mind. You lost asshole, time to let it go and move on.
Only one gun per household? I've got three kids at home and I need two more guns for them to play with.
OT
Scc,
Can you please post a thread regarding the fatal shootings of two Tampa police officers. When we have lost one of our own, I have always found comfort when reading out of town agency's posts. I feel connected to our brothers and sisters from all over the US. We have to stick together during these violent times.
Thanks and God bless the Tampa Police Department and their families.
Stalin, hitler, ho chi min, pol pot, obama, daley all favor or favored gun control
what does that say?
Mara Georges is a hack!
The only time she moves her lips is to kiss shorty's ass.
Hey Mara!
What was that you said about 5 or 6 years ago when shorty the crime king was deposed by the feds on the heels of the Hired Trucks scandal?
You know... The deposition where his brain trust (joyce, degnan et al) told you under no uncertain words to STFU, stay the fuck at home and play with your barbie dolls?
You know... The deposition in which the sitting CEO of the municipal corporation of Chicago ostensibly on municipal business in his sit-down with the FEDS had legal representation, NOT BY THE LEAD MUNICIPAL LEGAL OFFICER BUT THE LONG TIME DALEY CLAN LAWYERS, THE CORBOYS!
Can we say shorty had a severe case of "I don't wanna go to prison-itis?"
NAAAWWWW! Shortshanks couldn't POSSIBLY be a fed plant/informant?
It is a curiosity as to how, if the feds are supposedly all in shorty's ass like cheap tissue, the only people being sent to prison are foot soldiers and associate members of Daley Inc. No bigs save for Sorich and he managed to keep his mouth shut so he'll be WELL taken care of.
How come the media wasn't all over this bit of hand-tooled fuckery?
The feds are just as full of shit because they've given Daley Inc. a license to rob the tax payers blind!
We have a theory. Everybody that IS somebody in city government is a FED informant trying to wheel and deal to fuck all the other Fed informants trying to save their own decayed asses.
DOJ is laying back laughing their asses off watching this rolling five ring circus crash head-on into an ass-clown funeral procession only to be broadsided by a bus load of kung-fu nuns with guns with a drunken Magic Juan at the wheel.
This city needs a purgative & a high colonic at the same time.
if we could build a scaffold to accommodate the largest mass dangle of crooked-assed politicians & their enablers in the history of mankind, Illinois north of I-70 would be a desert.
soon the mayor,and alderdogs will be circulating nominating petitions.DO NOT SIGN THEM. THIS WILL FORCE THEM OUT. REFUSE TO SIGN !!!!!!
Straw purchasers will still buy guns out of state to get around chicago ordinances. Write an ordinance that included large monetary damages if found to be a straw purchaser and enforce it.
Enough with the stupid ordinances!
Straw purchases are already a Federal felony. You would like it to be "more" illegal? Do you think any dirtbag that uses a straw buyer gives a shit?
Why throw a dumbass like daley a bone? (unless you can hit him in between the running lights)
Anonymous said...
Limit the mayor's detail to 2 cops a driver and a valet WTF joe blow cant defend himself please how democratic is that concept
6/30/2010 01:06:00 AM
some are more equal than others
They can pass any bullshit ordinance they want! It is still legal in Illinois to buy a handgun if you have an FOID card! This is why a normal citizen CAN HAVE A GUN IN THEIR HOME! Nobody who has used a gun defending their home and family has ever been arrested or prosecuted! It is a bullshit municipal code violation (NON JAILABLE) punishable by gun confiscation if the police talk you into giving them your gun. OTHERWISE CASE DISMISSED, IT WAS NEVER ENFORCEABLE!!!They can't arrest you if you have a valid FOID card! FAILURE TO REGISTER A WEAPON YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REGISTER?, BUT CAN OWN LEGALLY IN ILLINOIS!!!
Now carry that same gun on your person and you are in violation of State Law!
GUN CONTROL??? 20 YEARS FOR DOING A CRIME WITH A GUN!
******** VERY SIMPLE ********
BAD GUY WILL GET THE MSG!!!!!!!!
Well if guns are now legal for the most part, area gun teams are NOT needed anymore. GOOD. We could use the P.O.'s and sergeants back in the districts.
First of all the court said that it is a RIGHT, 2nd Amendment not a privilege, Big difference. Like voting, convicted felon can't vote, convicted felon can't own a gun. etc.etc. Any lawyer knows that you cannot block a constitutional right. A lawyer who will has a different agenda than the law. Yes I know there are plenty of them around but they know they are wrong. Shanks knows it's wrong too. Unless he has another agenda. We would not think that. would we?
As of 01 July, the photo enforcement on expressways will begin to be enforced in work zones.
Even if they are on strike?
http://www.chicagoreader.com/TheBlog/archives/2010/06/29/gun-rights-meeting-is-on-after-allbut-not-at-tuley-park#more
"We could use the P.O.'s and sergeants back in the districts."
You guys just don't get it, do you?
NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE PATROL DIVISION.
Although you're the backbone of the police department, let me say it again;
NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE PATROL DIVISION.
Now get out there, write some movers and parker, get some bus checks and curfews!
(I'm truly sorry to be the messenger on this, but that's the way it is. Personally, I've ALWAYS thought that the patrol officer should be treated like the kings and queens of the department)
So now it's on YOU. What will YOU do in response to this?
"On the other side, how would you gun advocates take to people forming a militia?
6/30/2010 03:06:00 PM"
You probably want to take a look at US CODE TITLE 10 > Subtitle A > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > § 311
311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
Y'all are probably already in the militia, genius.
ECS
"...how would you gun advocates take to people forming a militia?"
Uh, that's pretty much what the militia was, when the Bill of Rights was drawn up; able-bodied citizens, armed with personally-owned firearms.
There is even an argument here for "assualt weapons", in that these citizens would be armed with the same weapons that the British military used.
No, I wasn't around then and no, I cannot get inside the heads of Adams and Jefferson, but all one needs to do is read what they wrote at the time. The message is quite clear.
The people were armed CITIZENS, not SUBJECTS, such as those under the crown.
Firearms were not only a tool to provide food and protection against thievery, but were allowed to be held by the private citizen to provide defense against TYRANTS, should that beceome necessary.
DALEY IS A TYRANT.
What is the mayor's problem?
6/30/2010 01:20:00 AM
Small penis.
What next,infinging on my 1st Amendment rights by limiting the amount of bibles I can own??
"Does this mean those Area gun teams can now go back to District Law Enforcement where their bodies are needed?"
No. Clearly no one gives a shit about district law enforcement.
Deal with it. Act accodingly; protect youself, your partner and go home to your family at th end of your tour.
Shortshanks, stop wasting our tax dollars!
Any exorbitant fees or insurance requirement will be challenged and beaten! This has been declared a right... Again!!! and upheld! You cannot tax or make unreasonable measures to keep someone's right from them.
Look at it this way. Do we require journalists to take a class or have insurance for what they write? Must I have insurance when I march with 3000 other coppers on City Hall? While I peaceably assemble? Do I need a license for that? No. Maybe before I purchase a six pack, I should have insurance because prohibition was repealed you know?
Should slaves pay a tax to earn their freedom? Perhaps I should take a voters safety class before I vote?
Hold on- I'll go for that one, cause this "Change" thing these idiots voted for is not the Change I was looking for. Now I'm looking for "Spare Change."
Notice these are all referenced to certain amendments of our Constitution? We swore to uphold it, some of us more than once!
Freedom is a wonderful thing many of us have fought for. Many gave their lives so we could have it! What good is it if we don't control it? If we are governed, and not governed FOR? Whose rules do we live by? I can think of 51 idiots who are governing us. Shouldn't they be polling us to learn what we think?
Will I need to pay any more fees to the State Police to allow me to have a right? No--- that will be challenged too.
Thomas Jefferson was a very wise man. More wise that Shortshanks could ever dream of being. He wanted a country that wasn't controlled by Tyrants or Despots.
He knew that a government who controlled the people wasn't freedom. He knew that when people controlled their government, that- was power. That- is freedom.
What the public does in their own homes or private property should be no concern of "the government." When is a (wo)man truly free?
Please, everyone reading this, ask yourself, when am I truly free?
If I own my property outright, to whom or why do I owe a tax on my property? Is it not mine? Perhaps I should pay myself?
Everyone, we need to VOTE! The power is ours when our elected officials do what we tell them. Instead of what they think we want. Or in some cases, what THEY want!
Freedom is this blog! Thanks SCC, for giving us this space to express our freedom! Maybe 'Shanks would ask you to register your blog next!
Sorry for the long rant.
from tampabay.com
Two Tampa police officers shot, killed during traffic stop
By Times Staff Writers
Posted: Jun 29, 2010 04:06 AM
TAMPA — Two Tampa police officers were shot to death Tuesday during a traffic stop, touching off a massive manhunt that led to the capture of one of two people wanted in connection with the killings.
Hours after the deadly encounter, the wife of one of the slain officers went into labor with the couple's first child.
Officers Jeffrey Kocab and David Curtis, both 31, were shot to death at 50th Street and 23rd Avenue at about 2:20 a.m., police said. Both were shot in the head, Mayor Pam Iorio said.
As the city reeled from the second fatal police shooting in less than a year, an intense search led to an apartment complex where the car used in the shootings was found a few miles away. The driver was holed up in an apartment in the same complex.
The shooting suspect, a passenger in the car, was identified as Dontae Rashawn Morris, 24, an ex-convict with a lengthy arrest record and no known address, police said. He ran away, witnesses said, and by early afternoon was still at large.
Police issued an arrest warrant for Morris on two counts of first-degree murder charges and felony possession of a firearm.
The driver of the car was identified as Cortnee Nicole Brantley, 22. Police said a tip led them to the Bristol Bay Apartments, 4821 Bristol Bay Way, where they went door to door before finding Brantley in apartment 202.
"If you shoot two police officers in cold blood you've got to be considered very dangerous,'' Castor said. "It's our goal to get them off of the streets. … It would be in their best interest to call and turn themselves in.''
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Stay safe out there, be very careful. Condolences and prayers to our brothers & sisters in Tampa.
If Shorty gets his way on the "one handgun" rule, some people will go all out and spend big $$$ on high end pieces such as HK, Sig Sauer, or maybe even hand made 1911s such as the Les Baer, Ed Brown, Nighthawk, Wilson Combat, etc, etc. I would imagine he will try the Washington,DC style 10 round magazine limit as well. Most .45s hold 7-8 rounds so this is a non-issue. Im an old fart, Im sticking with the Revolver.
A poster warned everyone that photo radar goes into effect and will cause a ticket for $375 for one mile over the limit. Then anon stated that this is complete and utter bullshit. Well, my friends, it is true and can be verfied if you go on Snopes. The law covers construction zones and goes into effect 1 July in the state of Illinois. The second ticket is for $1000.Just another way to get you money. They do not need a photo of the driver, just a photo of the license plate. The fine goes to the registered owner.
come get em from me, Daley you knock on my door for em
6/30/2010 06:49:00 PM
and
6/30/2010 08:47:00 PM
Stop you guys are killing me from laughter!
Great posts.
Maybe Daley and Georges ought to think about deporting illegals for for the first law they break like fucking entering the country legally.
Daley IS a tyrant with short dick syndrome.
Buck Naked
(not a cop)
"You think they will prosecute a citizen who has never been arrested and has more than one handgun?? Give me a break."
--6/30/2010 03:39:00 AM
I KNOW they will do so.
What...the LittLe irish gobLin from BridgePort is going to continue to waste tax payer money over the gun issue?
What do thee Gun Teams and registration have to fo with each other?????????? Still buying into the fallacy all they do is failure to register. Get over it.
Didn't Shanks have to pay someone else to pass the bar exam on his behalf?
Anonymous said...
The fucking ASA's in this county don't even prosecute gang members caught with hand guns now half the time. You think they will prosecute a citizen who has never been arrested and has more than one handgun?? Give me a break.
6/30/2010 03:39:00 AM
Get a clue. This is a silly City Ordinance. ASAs don't prosecute city ordinance violations. They prosecute violations of state criminal law that are properly investigated and supported by actual, properly recovered evidence.
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