Manpower Again
From Saturday's comments:
- For everyone's information today:13 P.O'S &1 Sgt. only will be on the street in 011 for 2nd Watch. No rapids, and 2 beats will have no car.
- Same is 003 except 003 is 12 beats with a couple of foot post. and 003 has a higher population than 011
- 7 one man cars on third watch in 20 on 3rd watch.
Be careful out there.
Labels: department issues, safety issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
116 Comments:
About two weeks ago the 1st watch WC came on the air and said there will be no 2332, 2331 and 2333 will be the wagon. All the rest of the cars are 1 man. What a sad state the CPD is in and Daley is the one to blame!
This should be posted everyday.
No 99 units in 002 for a week or so now. Heard this is coming from HQ. Both 1st and 3rd watches are running 10-4 units, at the expense of downing 4-5 beat cars a night. So 7 or 8 beats out of 12 manned 10-4 with the wagon up as a one of those beats. Still think there is no manpower shortage mayor dick midget? Pile on the jobs squard, we'll get to 'em sometime before checkoff!
Funny.....when before the man power shortage "became a reality" in 011, and probably everywhere else,,, in the past few months, I seem to remember 2-3 years ago almost (and sometimes EVERY) car on midnights was a one man car. Fortunatly Chicago Poice Officers weren't being killed then, so nobody gave a shit. Nobody, including our 35th street ass kissers who did nothing but bow down to our midget mayor and go with the status quo. It took the blood of not just the last 3 cops to be killed, but lets not forget about Valdez, Taylor, and Francis. Before P.O. Francis no CPD had been shot and killed in 6 years. NOW 6 HAVE BEEN MURDERED IN 2 YEARS!!!!! Mayor shithead's respone after the 6TH MURDER!!....we'll hire 100 P.O.'s. Thanks for nothing fuckhead. Our glorious boss Weis?..."OFFICERS' DEATHS WON'T WEAKEN OUR MISSION".... YOU!! weaken our mission you piece of shit. Your bullshit rules and tactics have made all Chicago Police Officers scared to do their jobs thus letting all the shitheads become bolder and care free, thus resulting in 6 police officers MURDERED UNDER YOUR WATCH!!! Their blood is stained on your hands Jody! Forever! I hate to say it, but there is probably more to come. I only hope me or anyone I know is not one of them...and by that I mean mean all of us. Please be safe, and when in doubt...over react. Just make sure you go home.
Not that anyone is counting, but 002 had five (5) beat cars down on
1st watch last nite. No manpower shortage here!!!
001 third watch is always at least two cars down with only one wagon. All other cars (nine cars) are 99. Foot team is also down to a skeleton crew and don't answer calls since they're always assigned to a protest or festival. No traffic cars. No rapids. Often 1 Sgt. for the entire watch.
019 District, 1st Watch 26 Jul 10
6 one man cars
2 two man cars
1 wagon
1 down car
Dont worry Markie Mark and the FOP bunch are fighting for you!
The FOP should post the manpower every watch every day to show what we are working with. Oh I forgot they don't have any balls. OK we should post it on SCC. Let there be some kind of record for the public to see.
Where is fop?
You can get similar numbers in all the districts!. Start shaking the buildings again so we can have the manpower on the street...well, for at least a few weeks until the inside people find a new hole to hide in!
It is the City’s Right to be a poor manager and they use that right everyday. If the Sup wants to show he knows what he is doing, work on the manpower. Put people in the districts and stop acting like the little boy putting his finger in the dike. Put them where they are needed in the districts everyday!
Do we really need a saturation team/ a gun team/ a robbery team/ a burglary mission team/ an agg. bat. team/ schools cars! (really)/TRU/SOS/MOBILE STRIKE FORCE ? That is over 1200 people (look it up) not in patrol, not in beat cars.
Q: Why do Commanders need a driver when we can’t man the beat cars? (Oh that's right they can’t remember where the Alderman’s office is located, just their ass.)
Q: How many people do we REALLY in in the CAPS office?
Q: Do we really need two Sergeants in the CAPS office? REMEMBER for the past 30+ years there was only one. If a sergeant is needed on 3rd watch why is he always there on days (along with the 3rd watch CAPS people)?
Q: What happened to the threat that the Commanders better not hide people in the buildings. . . OH YEA that guy is at the airport now!
Last in the rant for now: OK I know that ‘they’ will always hide people in the station offices (AND HEAD QUARTERS), but why when they start kicking the people out on the street it is the desk people and not the front office?
At our district the girls come in whenever they want and leave whenever they want.
At least they work the weekends! . . . Does 3 hours count as working the weekend? They should have to work a full 5 hour day just like review [with ARIA now what do they really do?] and CAPS!
Don’t worry help is on the way. . .100 more policemen and 30 promotions!
So that's only 70 patrolman (in 6+ months!)
RE-ELECT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN OFFICE AGAIN. . . THEY HAVE DONE SO WELL FOR THIS CITY AND STATE. INSANITY
Here is something “lets vote for the new guy! He can’t be any worst then what we have now, plus it will take him a few years to learn how to steal.
Sorry for the length!
One man cars on any shift is crazy in Chicago now, but it is darn right ridiculous on 2nd or 3rd watch!!!!!!!!
It took the blood of not just the last 3 cops to be killed, but lets not forget about Valdez, Taylor, and Francis.
The officer killed from 007 last year is named VALADEZ not Valdez or Velesquez but VALADEZ. Can we get it right please, is that too fucking hard???
How about 023 on Friday night. Only one car up in the 30 sector. It was the wagon assigned to a beat car!!!
don't forget about the slow districts--- no more gang teams, they work out of the area and tac teams often detailed out.... daley is gambling with our safety by allowing our numbers to dwindle due to attrition and a lack of hiring..... don't put yourself at risk by riding on 10-4 assignments as a 10-99 unit, ask for back up and don't get out of the car until it is safe to do so--- it's not cowardice, it's just being a smart copper and exercising some common sense......
015 District 1st watch manpower is so short handed that PPO got dumped to add bodies to the cars...
Then Commander Green sends down (5) riot cans of OC spray in case the troops need them. Never mind getting rid or changing one of the 8 tact/gang/mission teams...
No here is a can for when people on the streets don't listen. And there is 1 Sgt. working too for backup!
refuse to work 99 on 1st and 3rd watch
A couple of years ago districts on the north side, and possible elsewhere, were sending beat cars to 011 on 1st watch.
They were going to roll call in 019, 020, 018, 017 etc and then getting sent to patrol in 011 and taking jobs etc.
I heard from someone in 011 who saw beat 1712 drive past, in 011. That officer lived on beat 1712 and wondered who then was patrolling his house on midnights.
No one called FOP until a unit rep saw a copy of the real work sheets, the W/C's were routinely keeping two copies of work sheets, the one with the cars on their assigned beats and the other, secret, work sheets with the beats in 011 these A3 and A5 cars actually worked.
The FOP was notified a month after this began and it was confirmed by the department. Yes, beat cars were being "detailed" to 011 but since it wasn't for a whole tour of duty, FOP was told, it wasn't a contract violation.
Not one of the PO's being detailed notified the FOP or their own Unit Rep. Perhaps because they were getting to go home an hour early they didn't say anything. It was a Unit Rep who discovered the bogus work sheets and started asking questions.
Officers, if this shit starts again, don't be bought off by taking a one hour early duck, call the FOP or your Unit Rep as soon as possible. And someone please, send the FOP a to-from, anonymously if you are afraid of repercussions, detailing when beat cars and rapids are not being manned.
Years ago there was a Pam Zekman expose' of beat cars not being manned. That was fixed by making the beats larger, then they were all manned, by being larger.
Then the Department created the Down and Reduced beat monthly report. Woe be to the W/C or D/C who actually admitted in writing to actually allowing a beat to be not manned.
And now that report, the Down and Reduced beat Report, no longer exists, and the practice of downing beat cars is happening again, some 25 years after it first created a stir. Who will write about this and make some waves?
Reporters, where are you? This is fact, not fiction. Primary Beat cars on the Chicago Police Department being down for whole tours of duty.
Let's get this out in print and on TV. This is a dangerous practice and it is the fault of richard m. daley. Start reporting!
saturday in 016 3rd watch, only 2 10-4 cars and wagon
This problem is easily fixed. Disband either TRU or MSF and a couple of the other useless units. If they are so vital and effective why is the murder rate up from last year? Your policing strategy isnt working Jody when will you admit it?
Strange, very strange. The FOP is silent on so many issues and i wonder why? They should be holding press conferences on an almost daily basis to present the facts and feelings to the public. But, nothing? Why??Very strange.
take your 2 personals and lunch. and do 1 job at a time. just back each other up. let the police hating citizens deal with the backlog.
A telling thing is the Watch Commander (actually, the Watch Secretary did it) no longer has to do the manpower report.
There was a time when all down and undermanned cars had to be explained on this form.
They stopped requiring it from downtown a couple of years ago, I can only guess it is because they can officially play stupid if it doesn't go down on paper.
Many of us are second or even third generation CPD. Our fathers fought the City for the CONTRACTUAL RIGHT to not work 99 on 1st or 3rd watch. Refuse to go out alone and don't give up this important right for officer safety! The Watch Commander will punish you in their shitty ways, but don't back down! If you are already pushing a beat car in the ghetto on 1st watch, really, what else can they do to you?
Ok. I agree we are definitely short handed. My only problem with announcing the shortage in this manner is how administration will react. Instead of fixing the problem, they will just start canceling time off. Keep complaining about the manpower shortage and no one will be able to get a weekend off for two years until staffing levels increase. The FOP should be on top of this and be screaming for OT initiatives to fill vacant cars and 99 cars. Of course that would mean rocking the boat with the city, and we know just how much the FOP wants to do that.
it's a damn shame 1 man units
working the street
post number of officers assigned to caps , commanders office staff,
homan square and headquarters office staff and ebvery car could be 2 man
this is bs and dangerous , hire some civilians or retired police officers to guard homan square parking lot , headquarters back door and some other clerical assignments .
While I understand the need for the public to realize our plight and the need for the media to know that we are understaffed and in need of a mass hiring, I disagree with publishing our manpower on the internet. WE, the police, are not the only ones who read this blog. Giving out specifics about manpower over the web allows to much access to this information by undesireables that might wish to do us harm. Obviously, if you are J-Fled, the opinion would be that nothing is going to stop them from doing us harm if they are intent on it. My opinion is "Loose lips sink ships." So, how about "a nice big cup of Shut the Fu** Up." Before we sell the farm and end up getting one of our own killed because we didn't know when enough is enough.
Every district should post every night, and on the first day of every period list how many officers are detailed out! Maybe someone will start to do the math, realize the double counting, and listen…
Plenty of manpower in the specialized units!
hmmm, yet my unit at HQ has over 30 sworn full duty today alone, and thats with the sun/mon DOG people being off. wtf
The previous poster talking about the 001st district is spot on. They down one or two of the ten primary beat cars and the remaining cars are all one-man units. Now, imagine if there was a major catastrophe during the afternoon rush hour and there's only 8 or 9 one-man cars working in the entire district. Most, if not all, will already be down on jobs.
So, who is going to handle it if something really BIG happens? How long can King Daley play this dangerous game of Russian Roulette and continue to hope and pray that no catastrophic event ever occurs? Does the public really know just how little police manpower they're getting for their ever-increasing, astronomical tax dollars?? Does the public know just how bad morale is due to Weis and his double-jeopardy lynching of Bill Cozzi?
C'mon Mr Mayor, you owe the people a LOT better than this. The solution here is quite simple. Dump Weis, promote from within the ranks, and most importantly... HIRE MORE OFFICERS!!!! (About 2,000 more should suffice)
It doesn't take a genius to see the obvious.
.
But the good news is that Mayor Daley and Ald. Burke's bootlicking servant staff is totally up to strength.
Mayor Daley quoting Alfred E.
Neuman of MAD Magazine:
" What Me Worry ".
I got the mayor job for as long as
I want it and there ain't a damm
thing anybody can or will do about
it. Like Papa Doc and Baby Doc, I
am mayor for as long as I want it.
And if I decide to pack it in I've
got my son Patrick waiting in the
wings. There will always be a Deley
on the 5th floor of City Hall.
wait till bud billikan..1 car per district and the rest go t o that nonsensical parade....this city sucks..
Silly question that maybe someone can answer......Isn't it against G.O.'s or the contract or whaterver, prohibiting one man cars on first and third watches??? That has always been the common perception as I understand it. If true, why not refuse to work 99?? The bosses cannot screw with everyone if we all stick together and, even if there was superviosory pressure, so what?? What would they do to you, make you work lockup or the desk, further depleting the number of coppers on the street? I would rather deal with a little potential "harassment" and go home safe and sound. Daley and company created this mess and only Daley and company can fix it. Worry about you and your fellow officer's safety and nothing else, because the main objective of this job is to retire from this job.
I know some of you young pups with less than, oh, say 25 years on the job, may not realize this, but back in the day, many districts had 4 sectors with 5 beats per sector.
Yep, you heard me right!
AND, there was a wagon up for every sector, and every sector had a couple of umbrella cars.
Hey, I'm just sayin...
since there is no money to hire more police officers, how about we send all the section 8 housing to other areas outside the city. it will help balance the calls for service, and the manpower shortage.
When a person has to visit Daley
Center, 400 west Superior, or some
other City of Chicago facility,
one is wanded, forced to step through the X-ray door, and empty
every thing from your pockets or
purse an put it on the screener belt and recover it on the other
side. All to protect the crooked
judges and attorneys. Why can't the
same considerations be accorded to
the ordinary taxpayers who run the
very real risk of being harmed or
losing their life just walking down
the street or going about their daily toils. It is a sad commentary
that the mayor and aldermen of Chicago do not feel that it is
necessary to fully maintain the ranks of the Chicago Police Department at sufficent strength to
serve, and protect the citizens and
one another. And with citizens and
police officers being killed and no
one being brought to justice and made to atone, this only encourages
the criminal element because they
know the city's legal system is in shambles and little, if anything,
will be done to punish or incarcerate them. The city only prosecutes to collect fines and fees due it.
Daley has been in office too long
and has become old and complacent.
This city needs a brand new government of
new faces, from the mayor on down the line. And God bless the Chicago
Police Department. Stay safe and have each other's back, and go home
and hug your family at the end of
your shift.
Remember the summer of '73 in 020?
3rd watch; 39-2 man beat cars,
3-2 man wagons, 6 Sergeants,
1 Field Lt., 13-2 man 'Umbrella' cars (they were auxiliary beats to beef up the south end), Tact cars, Vice cars, Foot Beats, 5/6 3 wheel motorcycles for the beaches, plus the Task Force when needed!
Boundaries; The Lake to the River on the west side, Evanston city limits south to Waveland Ave.
Cars could be sent anywhere, no sector system. It was the Wild West some nights, but everybody backed up everybody.
Old school Wheelman.
023rd district 2nd watch...six 99-beat cars and one 10-4 wagon. this in a district with a population of over 100,000 people, and 50,000 cubs/bars patrons, and then you have about 20,000 people between the lakefront lincoln park zoo....DO THE MATH 14 POLICE OFFICERS FOR 150,000 CITIZENS!!!!!
WE ARE FUCKED!!!
P.S. DO NOT BLAME COMMANDERS, OR WATCH COMMANDERS, THEY CAN'T PULL OFFICERS OUT OF THEIR ASS AND PUT THEM IN THEIR DISTRICTS. AND THOSE WHO MAKE WAVES BY COMPLAINING...GET PUT ON MASTERS' "BLACK LIST" STAY TUNE,
REMEMBER OFFICER SAFETY!!!!!!
016, 008, and 022 are the districts that worry me the most.
demand 10-4 unit status, or you are a dummy.
if you get stuck with a dummy, request backup!!!!!
simple and stay alive
Blame Daley for the lack of manpower on the job. Blame the current leadership for the lack of bodies pushing beat cars. You certainly don't need all the Area wide and City wide units, all doing the same thing. Respect for the police starts one call at a time.
only 8 police officers on 3rd watch at midway airport. 4 are making time & half. allowed to work one rdo per week. SWEET!
post district line ups everyday for all watches , media will pick up on these and put heat on daly
Does 020 even get seven jobs a tour....I have that many stacked when I start
This is out of hand, any Officer hurt because of man power shortage should sue the city and department for allowing us to work in an unsafe understaffed environment. Believe me, the bean counters at city hall know exactly what they are doing and where the money is.
Fire Jody, and allow a leader to re-take the this department and make it whole again.
But there are 20 PPOs working days on Michigan Avenue apparently because there arent enough FTOs HAAAAAAAA what a joke
Keep Working!
On 2nd watch they put these tac heros on beat cars, basicly they are down most the of the tour doing a lot of M.c.c. Police work.(DOPW, Pissers & Lose Cigarettes arrests sometimes even an 1811)
Better off just keeping them where they are and downing the car.
Speaking of officers afraid to do their jobs what is this I rad over at Pax 501. Officers are being told while on duty by security at Northwestern Hospital they must check in their weapons. The request is funny but the scary part is some officers are complying and asking J-Fled for advice. This is where people need to read the laws on the books and have worked with OLD SCHOOL SALTY VETERANS to learn how to be the POLICE. You tell the fucking security guard that you are on official POLICE BUSINESS, if the guard states he is following his/hers superiors orders, then ask to meet with them, when engaging with the supervisor again advise you are on OFFICIAL POLICE BUSINESS and if the supervisor OBSTRUCTS or IMPEDES with your investigation he/she will be placed under arrest. Then you generate a Information Report detailing the incident and names. Hopefully the Department will get in contact with the Head of security of the Hospital to further overt a situation like this. I did not like the answer J-Fled gave on 501 and left these officer questions unclearly answered. Also I think FOP should get involved before this turns into a major incident at a hospital.
Long ago my FTO and I had to go into a State Mental Facility for a offender on a outstanding warrant who was playing mental to avoid facing charges. The state workers told us we could not enter the facility without securing our weapons. My FTO told them he doesnt give up his weapon up to ANYONE and had no intentions of entering their facility and if they wanted us to take the offender into custody they had badges and a uniform also,that they would have to bring the offender to us and relinquish custody. Guess what, they did just that. Always remember you are in charge out there!
shortage is very apparent. back each other up and take care of yourself out there. losing your life for this shit city is not worth it. I'll die for country but not for daley and his cronies. keep the deceased officers and their families in your prayers.
St. Michaels Policeman's Prayer.
Grant that each day you will let me triumph over those whose acts are cruel and wrong. Bless my every move and protect me every day. Amen
God Bless you and your families.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARR3667oZkg
This is city wide. Let's play the lack of manpower game. Sunday .014, 2nd Watch, 9 P/O's total. Not the fault of the DC or WC. This is all on Daley
It was rumored Shanks had to hire the 100 or so Officers this year due to Fed funding was to expire. Can this be confirmed? If it's so, then Shanks pulled another flim-flam for the media and sheepy public.
As for manpower shortages, would it be more accurate and/or informative if one person in each of the 25 patrol districts fax a copy of the daily lineup to a reliable source, just to illustrate our point. Apparently City Hall won't give a shit about police manpower until 2011, of course there will be concessions, like real estate tax increase(blame police)and which BTW, Ald. Colon on Chicago Tonight last Friday,( that lacky thieving farce who didnt pay taxes on phony land scheme)would like all CPD & CFD to take furlo days to help next years city budget.
F..k all these B.S. units! Put people back in patrol on a watch! P.O.'s are getting killed for Christs sake!
Anonymous said...
019 District, 1st Watch 26 Jul 10
6 one man cars
2 two man cars
1 wagon
1 down car
7/26/2010 02:35:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dont worry Markie Mark and the FOP bunch are fighting for you!
7/26/2010 05:38:00 AM
Nothing in the contract about staffing levels. FOP has tried repeatedly, never something an arbitrator will give and the City knows they do better in arbitration than in negotiations.
Officers need to file safety complaints every night. Only one car down though, other districts seem to have it worse.
I can tell you though, that requiring the City to man all cars will result in time due being restricted. With that one car down, has anyone taken the night off, P-Day, CU etc? The arbitrator has made it very difficult to trade with someone to get the shift off, written notice, so many days etc.
If time due were denied to man the cars there would be additional complaints, the answer is to force daley to hire and bring the department up to strength.
Any suggestions on how to make that happen?
We need more people, we know that, you have to be safe out there, do not go to jobs without proper backup and say so on the radio.
people that guard daley and his house on the detail every day = 15
people that guard the entire 020th district for entire tour = maybe 15.
Then Commander Green sends down (5) riot cans of OC spray in case the troops need them. Never mind getting rid or changing one of the 8 tact/gang/mission teams...
You're right 1st watch is extremly shorthanded.
Yeah, like i'm going to use that can of OC. I know what happend the last time I used it ;)
A telling thing is the Watch Commander (actually, the Watch Secretary did it) no longer has to do the manpower report.
I thought they did away with watch secretarys, ohh that was smoke n' mirrors
It is not a contractual right or in any order that beat cars will be 10-4 on 1st and 3rd watches. It has just been an "understanding". years ago. It is not official written.
Does 020 even get seven jobs a tour....I have that many stacked when I start
good question any answers ?
where is this district at ?
how is this district ?
hmmm, yet my unit at HQ has over 30 sworn full duty today alone, and thats with the sun/mon DOG people being off. wtf
7/26/2010 10:47:00 AM
I'm sure you will be the first one to do your part by leaving your overstaffed unit and returning to a beat car.
David Snethen said...
Where is fop?
7/26/2010 06:44:00 AM
1412 W. Washington Blvd.
Clear out the narcotics unit. Waste of manpower. Nickel bag delivery cases all day.
Does 020 even get seven jobs a tour....I have that many stacked when I start
7/26/2010 01:09:00 PM
I know you are a barrel chested crime fighter who will do 29 and a day in a ghetto beat car on 3rd watch, but Rick Francis was working in 019 when he was murdered just two years ago. So take your seven stacked jobs and put them where....
P.S.
You aren't the first person to work in a busy district. Get over yourself.
If true, why not refuse to work 99??
--People don't have the balls to tell a boss they will not work 10-99!!!
They would rather bitch & moan rather then stick together and say no.
To: 7/26/2010 03:34:00 PM
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Why would ANY officer turn their weapon over to anyone, especially to someone that is NOT a police officer. I don't care that they are going to lock it up in a "secure" safe.
I am ON DUTY, my weapon stays with me at all times!
Many whiners and cry babies who wrote hardship letters and made calls to stay off midnights are getting dump to 1st Watch in 025. STFU AND DEAL WITH IT, YOU ONLY GOT TWO YEARS ON THE JOB, PAY YOUR DUES LIKE THE REST OF US.
Why are we giving the enemy our playbook?
002 had only 8 officers working on the second watch Sunday. 5 cars down and the wagon working as a beat car.
Anonymous said...
016, 008, and 022 are the districts that worry me the most.
7/26/2010 12:02:00 PM
We need a mutual aid agreement with the suburbs and a common emergency radio channel with the suburbs.
Blue too said... OK, what is the section of the contract that says we cannot work 99 on 1st or 3rd watch? Don't think your going to be able to quote it since it is NOT in the contract. Do your homework.
The manpwr shortage is not a new
phenomenon. In 2000 an underage
male "motorist" creamed my daughter's parked car just purchased two weeks earlier. I managed to keep the kid at the scene expecting an 11th district car any minute. Finally, after two hours we exchanged info (of course no D/L, no ins). The mother even came to the scene, beligerant. Finally a PO arrived and did the rpt in our apt. I remember so clearly b/c it was so late in the evening and he claimed to have never saw the COPS tv show. Amazingly, the family promised and then actually sent us $1300 which took some of the sting from the property loss. Best of luck trying to get the city to bring the job up to strength. Don't understand why it's 800 to 1200 people short. Shortshanks should explain w/o the spin.
this is insane. i did not know the actual day to day numbers in the district were THIS bad!! i gotta hand it to you guys for going out AT ALL if the numbers and backup are THAT BAD!! i would not want to go on the streets of this insane hell-hole under those circumstances. the fact that you guys DO is a testament in itself to the quality of the individuals that make up CPD!! fukn insane. and with all the morons out there every night gang bangin' and shooting and everything else. how the hell did things get this bad?? i know we keep electing the chicago politicians and that they are the worst in the country, but WOW!!! i mean, wow! take care of yourselves and hope that EVENTUALLY more people get hired and that you get a REAL fukn contract. but this is ridiculous! how fukn hard can it be to hire a thousand or more officers? not like there aren't people willing to apply for this underpaid and thankless job who want to help make things better! but hey, Lake Shore Drive needs the flowers watered, right? hang in there guys, lots of people DO support you!!!
You can get similar numbers in all the districts!. Start shaking the buildings again so we can have the manpower on the street...well, for at least a few weeks until the inside people find a new hole to hide in!
Check out the offices upstairs in 009.... there are AT LEAST SEVEN (7) girls working upstairs in the offices doing god knows what (most of whom don't have much time on the job and wouldn't know what to do if put on a beat car). And of course most of them are being hidden inside. The commander's secretary had 11 p.o.'s from 1st and 3rd watches detailed to days for furlough relief without asking the 2nd watch secretary what she may have needed. 2nd watch is running every car and some 10-4 cars while 1st and 3rd watches are left shorthanded. I'm all for a full watch but not at the expense of 1st and 3rd watch being shorthanded. The commanders secretary thinks SHE runs the district and makes personnel decisions on her own. Even if J-Fled ordered commanders to clean house to get more p.o.'s out on the street, D.C.'s would just continue to hide these spoiled girls inside somewhere.
NorthWestern Hospital has tried this for years. They tried to tell us in 1981 that we had to check our guns before entering the hospital. To quote one of the best Sgts. this job has ever produced, Sgt. Jack Runyan, "no fuckin way. You are a Chicago Police Officer. The gun is part of your uniform. DO NOT GIVE IT UP WHEN YOU GO THERE". The same advice applies today. Tell them to fuck off and then go about your business.
TIME FOR ANOTHR MARCH ON CITY HALL
Since when are civilians dictating what to do with your weapons when YOU are on DUTY. Are they calling the police for some police action at the hospital? If so, why are they asking you to relinquish your weapon. If you are there on a police matter, YOU DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR WEAPON.
If you are there on an IOD for Xrays or other treatment, give your weapon to your Sgt or Lt., NOT a security guard or nurse.
Anonymous said...
You can get similar numbers in all the districts!. Start shaking the buildings again so we can have the manpower on the street...well, for at least a few weeks until the inside people find a new hole to hide in!
Check out the offices upstairs in 009.... there are AT LEAST SEVEN (7) girls working upstairs in the offices doing god knows what (most of whom don't have much time on the job and wouldn't know what to do if put on a beat car). And of course most of them are being hidden inside. The commander's secretary had 11 p.o.'s from 1st and 3rd watches detailed to days for furlough relief without asking the 2nd watch secretary what she may have needed. 2nd watch is running every car and some 10-4 cars while 1st and 3rd watches are left shorthanded. I'm all for a full watch but not at the expense of 1st and 3rd watch being shorthanded. The commanders secretary thinks SHE runs the district and makes personnel decisions on her own. Even if J-Fled ordered commanders to clean house to get more p.o.'s out on the street, D.C.'s would just continue to hide these spoiled girls inside somewhere.
7/26/2010 09:02:00 PM
019 - A3 has a small army in the front office, community policing and the Dep Chief's office. At least 6 PO's in there who could go on the street tomorrow and the operation wouldn't miss a beat. of course, one male PO does the installing of the child car seats, a valuable use of police resources, what on earth would the yupsters do without their police officer to install car seats for their children.
Many whiners and cry babies who wrote hardship letters and made calls to stay off midnights are getting dump to 1st Watch in 025. STFU AND DEAL WITH IT, YOU ONLY GOT TWO YEARS ON THE JOB, PAY YOUR DUES LIKE THE REST OF US.
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Amen brother. Same thing in 023! Bunch of crybaby pussies will soon be leaving 3rd watch for 1st watch! Get some time on the job and until then enjoy midnites!
FOP and PBPA..we need to have an overwhelming organized march on City Hall, bring your friends and relatives, Firemen, other city workers. Let's do it right this time and show Daley our strength!
TO ALL OF OUR BROTHERS/SISTERS IN BLUE;
In 1980 the Chicago Fire Union Local #2 went on strike for the very first time and won our contract that, for us and the citizens, gave us "minimum manning" as our primary benefit.
I know that you people can't strike, either could we, but there are other methods to get some action from these a-holes in city hall. Our strike led us all to the Illinois Collective Bargaining Law.
They, politicians, don't like to be embarrassed. So the very next best thing to do is MARCH AND CHANT AND ADVERTISE. It worked for us and we'll be with you if you can get the FOP to get off their dead asses and act like a labor union.
This has got to be the worst time in your history and no taxpayer wants this type of protection. Let them know the truth thru community meetings, etc.
Signed: A Brother of the Barrel of 1980
Why are we giving the enemy our playbook?
Because WEIS and the mayor are full of shit and they got to be called out.
26/2010 12:43:00 PM
Anonymous said...
only 8 police officers on 3rd watch at midway airport. 4 are making time & half. allowed to work one rdo per week. SWEET!
7/26/2010 12:52:00 PM
We would have had 9 but the tile man won the "HAT TRICK" again.
Anonymous said...
people that guard daley and his house on the detail every day = 15
people that guard the entire 020th district for entire tour = maybe 15.
7/26/2010 06:07:00 PM
Sorry more like 30+ including copers from 001 kept on 001 sheets but protecting the asshole!
Anonymous said...
Speaking of officers afraid to do their jobs what is this I read over at Pax 501. Officers are being told while on duty by security at Northwestern Hospital they must check in their weapons. The request is funny but the scary part is some officers are complying and asking J-Fled for advice..."
"...I did not like the answer J-Fled gave on 501 and left these officer questions unclearly answered."
7/26/2010 03:34:00 PM
I'm not surprised that a NON-Police Officer like J-Fled wouldn't know how to handle that one.
Hospitals are licensed by the City of Chicago. As such, they have NO AUTHORITY to block on duty officers from entering.
I was once in that very same situation at that same hospital. When their security INSISTED that I disarm, I called for a Sgt. and informed the Security Guard that I wanted to see all of the hospitals' licenses and permits and that I was shutting down the hospital. Needless to say, I got their attention REAL FAST! The Sgt. wasn't pleased with my escalating the confrontation so quickly, BUT once the Sgt had a conversation with their security supv., our new working relationship was formed and no one EVER asked me for my weapon again!
Remember that most of these rent-a-cops are only puppeting what their supervisors tell them. If coppers in uniform don't know what their authority is, it's no wonder their security takes advantage of that and orders the coppers around!
GROW SOME BALLS.
The officer killed from 007 last year is named VALADEZ not Valdez or Velesquez but VALADEZ. Can we get it right please, is that too fucking hard???
C-Mon take it easy...the poster was making a good point and he messed up the officers name. I'm sure it wasn't intentional.
I am amazed that city hall would allow the safety of the citizens to be at risk because of the police shortage.
I am MORE amazed that the citizenship / voters would allow this to happen without regard.
Get this, 3rd. watch-26 Jul- Bomb and Arson-One Detective for rntire city.
commanders are to blame because they hide police officers inside to do caps and office work
deputy chiefs have a sgt and 3 to 6 police officers assigned
what can they do in 8 hours coffee internet long lunch
come late leave early
jfled have jackson cuello pterson and a few others take you and bruust on a field trip you'll be surprised the manpower CPD has that does nothing but shuffle papers all day maybe 5-6hrs
Anonymous said...
You can get similar numbers in all the districts!. Start shaking the buildings again so we can have the manpower on the street...well, for at least a few weeks until the inside people find a new hole to hide in!
Check out the offices upstairs in 009.... there are AT LEAST SEVEN (7) girls working upstairs in the offices doing god knows what (most of whom don't have much time on the job and wouldn't know what to do if put on a beat car). And of course most of them are being hidden inside. The commander's secretary had 11 p.o.'s from 1st and 3rd watches detailed to days for furlough relief without asking the 2nd watch secretary what she may have needed. 2nd watch is running every car and some 10-4 cars while 1st and 3rd watches are left shorthanded. I'm all for a full watch but not at the expense of 1st and 3rd watch being shorthanded. The commanders secretary thinks SHE runs the district and makes personnel decisions on her own. Even if J-Fled ordered commanders to clean house to get more p.o.'s out on the street, D.C.'s would just continue to hide these spoiled girls inside somewhere.
7/26/2010 09:02:00 PM
IF YOU OLD UGLY JEALOUS WENCHES WOULD MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS YOU WOULD BE TRUSTED TO WORK IN THE COMMANDERS OFFICE! OR MAYBE YOU JUST NEED GLASSES TO SEE THAT 4 OF THE GIRLS UPSTAIRS ARE PREGNANT! THEN IF THE TACT SECRETARY WOULD DO HIS JOB RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, THE COMMANDER WOULD NOT NEED TO BRING IN SOMEONE ELSE TO CORRECT HIS MISTAKES, BECAUSE HE KNOWS SHE WONT COMPLAIN AND NAG! SO KEEP UP YOUR BS TALK AND CONTINUE TO HAVE YOUR AT LEAST 6 OLD HAGS ON THE DESK DOING WHO KNOWS WHAT!
Why is evryone under the impression the bosses will give you shit if you refuse to work 99? Our boss has stated on numerous occasions that absolutely no one who does not want to work 99 has to work alone. However there are always the people who prefer to work alone rather than work with the district goof etc. Sometimes even they refuse to work together.
"I am amazed that city hall would allow the safety of the citizens to be at risk because of the police shortage.
I am MORE amazed that the citizenship / voters would allow this to happen without regard.
7/26/2010 10:54:00 PM"
do you ever talk to your neighbors?
ever?
"Shortshanks should explain w/o the spin.
7/26/2010 08:26:00 PM"
never happen.
the runt is like a filthy diaper, stuck in the spin cycle, sans detergent.
"hmmm, yet my unit at HQ has over 30 sworn full duty today alone, and thats with the sun/mon DOG people being off. wtf
7/26/2010 10:47:00 AM
I'm sure you will be the first one to do your part by leaving your overstaffed unit and returning to a beat car.
7/26/2010 06:56:00 PM"
and i'm sure that the responding commenter will not be holding his/her breath waiting for this to happen.
"Does 020 even get seven jobs a tour....I have that many stacked when I start"
"good question any answers ?
where is this district at ?
how is this district ?
7/26/2010 06:50:00 PM"
you're taking precious time away from surfing for porn to ask these questions?
"Better off just keeping them where they are and downing the car.
7/26/2010 03:25:00 PM"
they'd just love that.
"It doesn't take a genius to see the obvious.
.
7/26/2010 10:59:00 AM"
this is not a city full of geniuses, or hadn't you noticed.
"My opinion is "Loose lips sink ships." So, how about "a nice big cup of Shut the Fu** Up." Before we sell the farm and end up getting one of our own killed because we didn't know when enough is enough.
7/26/2010 10:07:00 AM"
that horse has already left the barn.
but you do have the right to close the door, if you so choose.
"Strange, very strange. The FOP is silent on so many issues and i wonder why? They should be holding press conferences on an almost daily basis to present the facts and feelings to the public. But, nothing? Why??Very strange.
7/26/2010 09:03:00 AM"
press conferences with whom?
the machine controlled msm?
"Your policing strategy isnt working Jody when will you admit it?
7/26/2010 08:53:00 AM"
as soon as he can figure out how to pull his head out of daley's ass without leaving his ears behind.
Anonymous said...
A telling thing is the Watch Commander (actually, the Watch Secretary did it) no longer has to do the manpower report.
There was a time when all down and undermanned cars had to be explained on this form.
They stopped requiring it from downtown a couple of years ago, I can only guess it is because they can officially play stupid if it doesn't go down on paper.
7/26/2010 09:33:00 AM
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It's not needed anymore because the A&As are automated. They know exactly how many people are (or are not) out there.
IF YOU OLD UGLY JEALOUS WENCHES WOULD MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS YOU WOULD BE TRUSTED TO WORK IN THE COMMANDERS OFFICE! OR MAYBE YOU JUST NEED GLASSES TO SEE THAT 4 OF THE GIRLS UPSTAIRS ARE PREGNANT! THEN IF THE TACT SECRETARY WOULD DO HIS JOB RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, THE COMMANDER WOULD NOT NEED TO BRING IN SOMEONE ELSE TO CORRECT HIS MISTAKES, BECAUSE HE KNOWS SHE WONT COMPLAIN AND NAG! SO KEEP UP YOUR BS TALK AND CONTINUE TO HAVE YOUR AT LEAST 6 OLD HAGS ON THE DESK DOING WHO KNOWS WHAT!
7/26/2010 11:58:00 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA....First off I don't work the desk. Secondly, only 2 girls are pregnant and I can name them, so what are the other 5 doing. If the tact secretary isn't doing his job properly and the commander knows this then why is he still the tact secretary? And the girl who fills in or corrects these mistakes is a prime example of someone with a few years on the job and already hiding inside on days because she has an excuse... she has a kid (just like most other p.o.'s do) but she thinks she's special and should work inside and on days. How about putting in your time in working a beat car on 1st/3rd watches an earning something instead of just getting pregnant and playing the mommy card to get a b.s. job inside leaving the working beat cars shorthanded.
Who is the idiot that feels the need to respond to every single post?
Just a casual observer here....but I don't think this stuff should be posted on the Blog. We don't need to be feeding info directly to the shitbags who also follow this blog. We all know we are desperately short all over, and it won't change anytime soon. We all know that too. Back each other up, don't respond alone to anything as a 10-99 unit that you know you're going to need an assist to be one the scene with. Nothing is worth you not being able to return home healthy to your family, or damage you ability to work special (if you need it, and a lot of us do) or your side job.
Keep working special employment and "operation safe summer" and "operation lakefront" assholes and they won't ever hire more coppers. WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMEY.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Many whiners and cry babies who wrote hardship letters and made calls to stay off midnights are getting dump to 1st Watch in 025. STFU AND DEAL WITH IT, YOU ONLY GOT TWO YEARS ON THE JOB, PAY YOUR DUES LIKE THE REST OF US.
7/26/2010 07:23:00 PM
025 third watch has many hard working "two year wonders" as you like to call them. Ok, a lot of us wrote hardship letters, medical conditions, etc... to get off midnights and you are going to blame us for it? We are the hardest working bunch in 025! We bring in a lot of activity and will be proud to join 025 1st watch. Remember, we are still brothers and sisters in blue!
CMDR. JK walks around the station with his head down, around the hard working beat officers of the Belmont DISTRICT. Maybe he from royality with his little gold leaf, on his collar.
OEMC just hired 30 new call takers starting at 39 grand each.. do the math. also 20-30 po's assigned to call taking and dispatching and watching all those camera's.. but all them seem to see is people selling loose cigarettes or drinking under the camera-what a waste
Anonymous said...
commanders are to blame because they hide police officers inside to do caps and office work
deputy chiefs have a sgt and 3 to 6 police officers assigned
what can they do in 8 hours coffee internet long lunch
come late leave early
jfled have jackson cuello pterson and a few others take you and bruust on a field trip you'll be surprised the manpower CPD has that does nothing but shuffle papers all day maybe 5-6hrs
7/26/2010 11:44:00 PM
For many years the Area Deputy Chiefs had a staff of ONE, just one police officer, the secretary. That one PO shuffled all the reports and took messages and essentially ran the office. It wasn't much of an office, just some desks at 1121 S State St really, but it was all done by one Deputy Chief and one PO per area.
So how much better is it now with a platoon of cigarette smoking tattoo festooned desk jockeys? And why does Community Policing need as many officers as some roll calls in the city? Plus a sergeant and lieutenant? Those are well supervised child car seat installers by golly.
Meanwhile, on the watch, they run shorthanded and all the easy details go quietly to the Community Policing office, with the early quit that goes with it.
>>>Anonymous said...
Keep working special employment and "operation safe summer" and "operation lakefront" assholes and they won't ever hire more coppers. WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMEY.
7/27/2010 11:17:00 AM<<<
WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY?!?!
Not at time and a half for this.
We are our own worst enemy for staying home on election day.
We are our own worst enemy by our "union" remaining silent, for not screaming about these issues.
We are our own worst enemy for not exposing this every chance we get and going after adermen who say, " We cant hire more police because we just gave them a 10% raise."
We are NOT our own worst enemy for taking the money when it is available. It even get's a retro raise.
Hey hard working 3rd watch.................
Tell me about your last homicide arrest ??
Armed Robbery.............
ok A real Agg Batt w/ a working gun?? A pcs more than 2 rocks......
Thats what I thought
"Anonymous said...
Who is the idiot that feels the need to respond to every single post?
7/27/2010 06:59:00 AM"
well, not 'every single comment'.
however, you made the grade, so give yourself a cookie.
but no beer for you.
that you have to earn.
"Ok, a lot of us wrote hardship letters, medical conditions, etc... to get off midnights and you are going to blame us for it?"
Not me pal. She stepped up and helped one of your "brethren" draft a letter explaining how the lack of sunshine on 1st watch has led to all sorts of medical problems, numero uno being recurring bouts of painful gas. She's a lawyer and a darn good one at that.
024 third watch is fully staffed--you wouldn't even know the Dept. has any manpower shortage if you looked at the sheets. We have a full complement of useless foot officers (who have cars they never exit), PAPV officers, bike patrol officers, alternative-lifestyle mission team officers, a guy who just writes parkers, a couple of the most unambitious tact teams in the city and a Commander who loves the status quo like no man I've ever met.
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