Contrary Witness
- Chicago police shot and killed a man on a CTA Red Line train early Saturday who, officials alleged, was walking through the train with a gun.
[...] But several witnesses who telephoned the Tribune and other media outlets Saturday countered that version of events, arguing that Lash appeared unarmed and that the shooting appeared unjustified.
"I didn't see a gun at all," said Natalie Bruce, who said she was on her way home from church when the shooting occurred. "The officers put his hands behind his back. They seemed like they were patting him down, and they tussled a little bit, but they had him pinned against the wall."
We're assuming the Tribune is going to stand by their reporting that Ms. Bruce was headed home from church at 2 AM and not from Church's Chicken. And we're sure the Tribune, being upstanding corporate citizens who never ever be involved in anything shady, immediately forwarded this citizen's story and contact information to the proper investigative body.
This is why we can't wait for these newspapers to go under.
Labels: media, silly people
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
46 Comments:
Ah, you forgot the part where his relatives said he was turning his life around, was about to go for his GED and the trouble he'd been in before was 'minor'. I kid you not; it was on tape on the news tonight.
All of the news channels have different versions of what witnesses saw...or in the case of Channel 2 news...what they really didn't see. Maya Martinez led into the story as witnesses having a different version...then went on to interview two mutts who said they were in another train car when the incident happened. Channel 7 news - Sara Shulte- gave the family version and another female who didnt see a gun.. The family said Lash was turning his life around, didn't deny he had a gun, but said he wasnt the type of person to murder anyone. Shulte reported this shit. Two officers could have been murdered and these reporters allow this bullshit on the news unchallenged. The liberals and uneducated poor black folks cannot comprehend that the media gave a biased, skewed, slanted version to what happened...and misled the public by saying "witnesses" have a different version...when in fact the "witnesses" did not eye witness the shooting. My blood is boiling after watching this media trash...and the dirtball auntie who has the nerve to admit this fuckhead had a gun..but call for the firing of the officers involved. Then say the family is going to see a lawyer tomorrow. THE GHETTO LOTTERY has been won by Lash's relatives. I am sick and tired of doing ANYTHING for these ghetto, gangster, breeders. The media is pushing for civil unrest...might help them sell papers or get some sponsers for their failing careers.
We're assuming the Tribune is going to stand by their reporting that Ms. Bruce was headed home from church at 2 AM and not from Church's Chicken.
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LMFAO!
Who cares what these prankster witnessess are saying. They're full of shit. Nothing ever changes with these assholes.
This is why cops don't care and aren't proactive anymore. The media and politicians cater to these assholes making them seem like victims.
This could have turned out differently had that guy decided to start shooting. Glad no cops got hurt.
...yet, an overwhelming majority of policemen will continue to bitch about the media without doing a thing. the newspaper trucks continue to run red lights in the early a.m. hours with impunity and the news vans continue to blatantly park illegally. does anyone write a ticket or order up a tow? ...or even take a picture and put it on the internet???
According to the MINS, every last one of those people on that particular car ran.
I couldn't believe it when I actually heard the reporter on Ch. 7 say, "He was going to get his GED and get his life together."
And momma saying how he didn't know "those police so why would he say anything to them..." Well no shit, lady. I am one and don't know every last one of us.
OMG!!!!!!!!!!! NBC 5 video has two "WITNESSES" telling two different stories. They actually reported TWO DIFFERENT stories. One fool even covered his head with his hoodie UNFUCKIN REAL!!!!! I'm sure both of these humanitarians went straight to A/1 Detectives (sarchasim off).
already with the "he was turning his life around"
"And we're sure the Tribune, being upstanding corporate citizens who never ever be involved in anything shady..."
Do they still have those Tommy guns they bought during the Depression stashed away in the office safe?
(sound effect of an empty flamin'-hots bag blowing down a long, cold street at 3 AM...)
Re: Church Lady
Where are the reverends or other men to drive or at least ride on the el with this woman? How can she be called a "witness", if she she didn't see anything?
Re: Media Going Under
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She even says in her quote that she didn't witness the shooting and that she got off of the train before the shooting happened. I guess that since he didn't show her the gun before she left then there is no way he had a gun. Its interesting too that the headline says witnesses plural yet she is the only one they quote. No doubt the other "witnesses" refused to leave their information and their stories were even less believable. Coming home from church at 2am seems plausible...its not like she had to get up for work in the morning or anything.
I read that article on Channel 5's web page yesterday.
This so -called 'witness' also admits that she never actually saw the shooting, only heard the shots.
And I guess the train operator stopped the train on the tracks and summoned Police for nothing. I only hope the cameras on the train (if it had one) captured the whole event, so that this 'witness' can be exposed for the BS spinner she obviously is. And people wonder why crime is up on the trains and buses.
I had to make an arrest many years ago on a CTA bus while off duty. You wouldn't believe how many people who were on that bus wanted to tell me how I had violated this gangbanger's rights. And that was in the 80's! I won the case in court, but the CR number was ridiculously overinvestigated, with the OPS investigator telling me that even though he was aware that the offender had already pled guilty to a number of charges in court (including resisting a peace officer), that "I can't allow that to intrude on my investigation." I just had to sit there at OPS and laugh at this guy. Of course, the OPS case was resolved in my favor too, but that guy dragged the investigation out for months.
I saw everything and shit.They chokeded dat boy an went upside his head. Then they shot him for no reason and put dat gun on him. They bogus Joe. I works ever day.Awe hell no, where my link card is? Call the mu fukn POlice.Another cleear case of racial prophylactic.
Lies sell newspapers. The local rags have been lying for the local politicians for so long they no longer have a grasp of the truth.
They have Carte Blanc when it comes to the Police Department as long as they leave Muscle Head Weis alone. Blueshirts are on the daley enemy list.
If you're on the Job & still support the local rags, shame on you ! You can get entire booklets of crossword puzzles at any Walgreens, Newsstand, etc.
No need to support the daley propaganda bureau & the puppets they employ.
The family was on WGN this morning and said " we know he had problems, but he would never point a gun at police". How much is the city going to pay them off?
What a shame. George Lash was the valedictorian of his class at Montefiore Special School who had turned his life around. He aspired to become a neurosurgeon. You kilt mama's baby boy.
Reading these kind's of articles used to piss me off to no end.
Now, I WANT more of these kinds of interviews and stories...Why?
Because it exposes these shitbags for what they really are...uneducated liars with no moral compass who will say or do anything to defend evil behavior.
This is the only way decent people will come over to our side and turn against those who wish to do harm to society.
On Chicago Breaking News website, the story about the el shooting "witnesses" is immediately followed by the Officer Bailey $140,000 reward stroy with no one coming forward. Amazing isn't it? 1:40 am on a platform and everybody saw everything those polices did and 6am daylight on a residential street and nobody saw nothing. There is CTA video of the incident. CTA claims it backs the officers story. Obviously they have made the round table without being read rights. One anti-police witness heard during the struggle the female p.o. yell "hes got a gun BEFORE opening fire". Nobody ducked when hearing that? Why wonder they drop like flies. The two cops involved should sue the papers for defamation based on the fact that the media knows there is video involved and won't wait to view it or wait for a credible source to view it and make a statement. Fuck the media. Don't buy their rags, watch their broadcasts or ever, ever talk to them.
"She didn't have to shoot him. She could have Tasered him," said aunt Dorothy Johnson.
"They got into a tussle or whatever, and they tussleed him down to the ground," said witness Loretta Langford. "The lady said he had a gun, and they started shooting. They didn't have no regards to the people on the train."
In every branch of government there are checks and balances. Then there is Chicago's IPRA. Let's see how this LONELY branch of unchecked government tries to screw these officers.
Is Church's even open at 2am? Liquor store or chicken joint in the ghetto, like hitting the lottery...
Ghetto Lotto ka-ching .... it's reported the family has already contacted an attorney (probably before they even met with the mortician) tho cameras at the cta station concur with what the officers reported.
The updated Tribune story on this incident is a real gem. The "witnesses" are delusional with a grudge against cops. Sensationalist reporting that gives these people credibility is irresponsible and dangerous. You guys just can't win, just know that some people still appreciate your hard work during a tough time despite all the idiots in this city.
Oh and prison rules on the CTA I guess, "Chitara Lockhart, 23, said she doesn't see anything wrong with bringing protection on the train, admitting that she carries a shank, a makeshift knife."
Fuck all Chicago newspapers. I don't give them one red cent and never will.
People like Ms. Bruce should be held liable for things they say they have seen. Was she there the entire time? NO. Did she see the shooting? NO. Does she know the circumstances that led upto the officers doing the right thing? NO. Does Ms. Bruce think she can make some money off of this? YES. Newspapers and those that write this rubbish should be held liable as well.
The Tribune keep their reporting standards at a high level by using the witness statement of Natalie Bruce. According to the report...
Natalie Bruce stated, "I didn't see a gun at all," and a paraphrase by the Pulitzer Prize winning author, "Bruce said she did not see the actual shooting but heard shots as she stepped onto the platform."
Your presence at the scene does not automatically make you a witness, technically you should have actually witnessed something.
She was on her way home from the Midnight Witness Church. Can I get a witness? Amen. They shot him for no reason at all!
Coming home from church at 2am? That's comedy right there!! You can't make this shit up.
Anonymous said...
We're assuming the Tribune is going to stand by their reporting that Ms. Bruce was headed home from church at 2 AM and not from Church's Chicken.
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LMFAO!
9/20/2010 12:24:00 AM
Wha? You never heard of midnight mass? She was on her way home from Father Michael Phlegm's late night services!
Anyone with any sense or perspective can perceive that most of these people talking to the press about the shooting are frankly, pretty much idiots.
Honestly, I don't think y'all should let it bother you what they say or whether it is reported. It's just a personal account- not substantiated and from what I read in the paper, these folks just talk to the media and won't be interviewed by the independant investigators. They are not credible. Give us citizens a bit more credit. Many of us are on your side.
Like it or not, these people are among the readership of newspapers in the city and so they get to present their point of view also- even if it's ridiculous.
These kinds of people always think the police shouldn't shoot someone. It's like they are saying, "He wasn't that bad. So he had a gun and he pointed it at the police. He wouldn't have shot them. They should have just stun gunned him" Yeah right.
RP Resident
Why do these people claim to have been "turning their life around" only when they get "kilt?"
I like to buy one paper, then empty the newspaper box so I have lots of newspapers for a surface to clean my gun on. And now that the tribune is the same size as the times, I can interchange my useage
Phil Ponce interviewed an unk. man (of course)in a, what else, hoody,
lets get his name and any ir#?. States he will track down other witnesses and shows a video that shows nothing, after the "witness" said he had a video that shows the incident. Needless to say the video showed nothing. Whos lying now?
And the family, he signed up to get his GED, any paperwork to prove this???
Im signing up for medical school next month
How about the auntie who said the police should be careful stating he was going to kill an officer,
"thats not true he didnt know those poleece officers." Wow, thats all I have to say....
Anonymous said...
Why do these people claim to have been "turning their life around" only when they get "kilt?"
9/20/2010 10:00:00 PM
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Because now that pookie is dead they have someone to blame his and their failure on. They will never be more than humanity in its lowest form. I use the word humanity very loosely. They have failed to evolve into civilized beings. My 33yrs on the streets have shown me they are stuck in a time warp. You can call a dog Einstein but hes still a cannine.
This must be true. I only make my decisions by what uneducated, pathological liars tell me. Also, I believe the conductor and the police had this scheme going all along. The scheme was to lose their jobs in order to kill a useless sack of shit, who brought nothing to society but grief and fear. It's all a part of the grander plan.
"Why do these people claim to have been "turning their life around" only when they get "kilt?"
9/20/2010 10:00:00 PM"
they believe in reincarnation?
If the 19 year old was returning home from a job or studying at home, then (maybe) he was turning his life around. Anything else is suspect.
Just to be totally honest, I am not a cop, I am a lawyer.
Just once I would like to see the Police, most likely through the FOP put some legal weight behind one of these bullshit lawsuits.
Not that it would make up for all the heartache that good, honest, and forthright officers go through behind these frivolous lawsuits...
but what would a picture of the victorious defendant Officer posing with the spoils of his/her counter claim - 4 chrome rims, 6 digital scales and a gold tooth.
Anyway, it is 12:30, I better get of to church so I can be headed home by 1:40 - because that sounds real.
I think I heard one of the detectives on the scene telling the bosses that not holding the witnesses was going to make for some interesting people coming out of the woodwork claiming to be witnesses. How true.
To 09/20 @ 12:30am. I would never write a ticket to a union MTD for the Times or the Trib. These guys are hard working blue collar men trying to make a living. And yes I took a free paper many days back in the day at 4'30 am when the ink was still wet. they are not the editorial writers dude.
@ 12:30:00 AM...
LMMFAO!
"What else ya got? AH HAH! Open wide bitch, gimme dat gold tooth!"
Anonymous said...
To 09/20 @ 12:30am. I would never write a ticket to a union MTD for the Times or the Trib. These guys are hard working blue collar men trying to make a living. And yes I took a free paper many days back in the day at 4'30 am when the ink was still wet. they are not the editorial writers dude.
9/21/2010 11:43:00 AM
Of course you wouldn't. You like getting things for free. You also complain, bitch and moan, about how the media continues to slander the department as a whole. These people CHOSE to work for the newspapers who not only print lies, but encourage the falsities to be told. If nobody is willing to deliver the papers because the police are putting the proverbial foot to the throat, the lies will no longer be printed.
"If nobody is willing to deliver the papers because the police are putting the proverbial foot to the throat, the lies will no longer be printed.
9/22/2010 12:59:00 AM"
ambitious idea.
make it a mission.
If nobody is willing to deliver the papers because the police are putting the proverbial foot to the throat, the lies will no longer be printed.
9/22/2010 12:59:00 AM
Have you lost your mind? The newspaper truck men and women are just trying to make a living and support their familes, the same as us. They do not have any control over the columnists or the editorial board.
And, your comment about the proverbial foot to the throat of the blue collar, hard working men and woman on the newspaper trucks reveals you are not a police officer. You are a thug.
Do any of those reporters ever ask why a 19 year old would be involved the process of "turning his life around" in the first place?
And how exactly does one "turn his life around" at 140am on a CTA train with a gun in his waistband confronting two armed and uniformed police officers?
George Lash has at last turned his life around and is providing something useful to the world: worm food. He dead remains will go to restoring some nutrients to the earth after a short lifetime of sucking society dry.
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