Watch and unit bids coming soon. Obviously the fix is in already. Put your clout in and then open up the reshuffle. Classic. Oh,and sure the tests were fair.
So with the Sgts out. Where's the detective class that the Supt. posted on his blog 501 that he wanted to make. Maybe we will see a fifth Sgts. class before a detectives class.
Sgt's list is similar to what you posted and some good assignments for them. graduated a cupla 2 tree days ago ? if you are looking over the w/c's shoulder they have the list and the lieutenants' list also
Just when you thought the dept could'nt get any lower in moral. BANG! they assign new Sgt's to great dist without opening the bid to Sgt's that have been stuck going south for the past 2/3yrs. REALLY! WOW! hey thanks for playin but...... oh and throw some more pie in your face, the double merit pick ummmmm lets send him to 016 REALLY! UNREAL!
I seriously doubt that there will be a detectives class. That would simply slow down the measly attempt to swell the ranks of patrolman. There are no rumors of a class anytime soon. We'll just have to do more with less as they say...
The vaunted Michigan Ave and Entertainment Details need more first-rate leadership because we can't do it all anymore. Too much stress.
It's time for us to start transitioning, what with our Hometown retirement just around the corner. Trust us: 018 will settle for whatever clouted leadership the boss man allows.
I wonder if there is a contract violation here. Shouldn't the current sergeants get to bid on openings first, then the new sgts. go to whatever is open?
OR is it that some of the poor new sgts. don't want to go to the bad districts and put there time in on 1st watch in 003, 011, etc.?
Complete bullshit! Why are new Sgts. going directly to cushier northside districts and the war-weary vet stripers have to remain out in Area 2 and Area 1 locations? They may as well have called that Sgt. class what it obviously was (at least from the Merit section): 'the clout list!'
ADS Tobias meritcloutorioused one of the new sergeants, a guy by the name of Snelling, who was interviewed on television after the graduation. Snelling said he chose to go to 007 in honor of Thor Soderberg.
Honorable sentiment there sarge, but since when do you get to pick where you go? Oh, never mind. I forgot the part about you being meritcloutorious.
And, if your claim that you chose to go to 007 is true, how stupid are you to tell it?
Been a sgt for 5 yrs in A/2 and Dont even get the chance to bid. These new guys go right to 022, 016,017 etc. Fuck that.
I agree. The list is on the Intranet. It really suck that new sergeants get to go to districts on 3rd watch and the old sergeants don't get to bid for any district spots or get chances to get off 1st watch. When we do get to bid, the spots available are always on 1st watch and only in 011 and Area 2 districts. BS!
Yep, they graduated on Thursday and placed in cushy north side districts immediately. O'Brien and Brown stuck it right up the asses of all the hardworking sergeants on the west side and south side paying their dues and trying to get north. Thanks Commander of Management and Labor Affairs and downtown Ernie Brown. Thanks to you two morons you just allowed a sergeant with 8 days in grade to bid and get any inner district opening on the 24th in the districts they were placed in; therefor screwing us next month on any openings on the north side when citywide bids come out. PBPA has no say so in the matter but the downtown commonly has a citywide bid prior to a new class, out of respect, but not this time. Class acts, those two!
Been a sgt for 5 yrs in A/2 and Dont even get the chance to bid. These new guys go right to 022, 016,017 etc. Fuck that
And your point is???? im one of the new sgts and Im being sent to 022 and I will trade with you any day. Im not even from the southside. its gonna take me well over an hour to travel to work everyday. quit your crying and do your job. nobody wants to hear your whining about not being able to get out of a district. your getting paid a pretty good buck... but if your in 003 or 005 then that just flat out blows.. hahahah, well, I guess I can hang out at some of my friends houses in 022 while im workin, hey... maybe 022 wont be all that bad. enjoy 3, 5 or 6 cry baby!
two sgts went to 016th!! was it that all about, how in the hell are you going to teach them anything! Oh well let's wait for the Lt's list not out yet but should be on the 28th....we shall see
I've been a Sgt.for 15 years. Been trying to get to 024 so I can slow down. Tired of working in a busy district. Still stuck in a hellhole and not able to get to 024.
thank you triple merit LAPA commander Scot Ruiz -010- for making Merit LAPA Sergeant Torres, what a real prize. NOT A FU*&@#G CLUE IN THE WORLD> USELESS, just like you are RUIZ.
'ADS Tobias meritcloutorioused one of the new sergeants, a guy by the name of Snelling, who was interviewed on television after the graduation. Snelling said he chose to go to 007 in honor of Thor Soderberg.
Honorable sentiment there sarge, but since when do you get to pick where you go? Oh, never mind. I forgot the part about you being meritcloutorious.
And, if your claim that you chose to go to 007 is true, how stupid are you to tell it?'
You know what, smartass, you need to get a life. Larry knows damn well he was fortunate to be selected, and you know what? He DESERVED it. He's done a fantastic job down at the Academy for years. And you know what else? All of the Sgts. were allowed to put their picks on a sheet of paper, and if they were lucky, some got their pick. How many of the OTHER Sgts. in the class chose 007? I salute Snelling, he's got bigger balls than just about every copper I know. Go get 'em Larry, and continue to do a good job. God knows the Englewood Rangers need a Sgt who can be a leader AND a role model. We all know that no one can say that about their asshole superclouted Cmdr!
To the Sgt who wants to come to 024 after 15 years, please come. Call Rottner and wish him a Happy New Year...or something.
And to the "new sgt" who is calling the sgt in A/2 a whiner and a cry baby...what's the point of being anonymous, we're going to find out who your dumb ass is when the list come around. Glad you aren't coming to 024, genius. Stay out south and step on your dick some more....ass hat.
I beg to differ on "the merits going up north". The 2 that 020 got ARE NOT merits, and they both were and are the working Police hands down. Congrats to the both of them. You guys and gals in 020 will appreciate them being there, trust me.
Been a sgt for 5 yrs in A/2 and Dont even get the chance to bid. These new guys go right to 022, 016,017 etc. Fuck that
And your point is???? im one of the new sgts and Im being sent to 022 and I will trade with you any day. Im not even from the southside. its gonna take me well over an hour to travel to work everyday. quit your crying and do your job. nobody wants to hear your whining about not being able to get out of a district. your getting paid a pretty good buck... but if your in 003 or 005 then that just flat out blows.. hahahah, well, I guess I can hang out at some of my friends houses in 022 while im workin, hey... maybe 022 wont be all that bad. enjoy 3, 5 or 6 cry baby!
9/18/2010 01:31:00 PM
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where the fuck is this coming from? Isn't there always a bid before a class graduates?
and aren't you crying too? how do I know you are over 1 hour away from 022 then ? because you are on here crying about it that's how
Cheer up! Hey you could be stuck with know it all Butter Bean Betz in 193 listening to him complain to everyone about how the Commander there fucked him by not putting him in for Lt. and how he sacrificed everything to come inside to do everything for him. Blah, blah, blah! What a goof! Here's s quarter call someone who cares!
Anonymous said... ADS Tobias meritcloutorioused one of the new sergeants, a guy by the name of Snelling, who was interviewed on television after the graduation. Snelling said he chose to go to 007 in honor of Thor Soderberg.
Honorable sentiment there sarge, but since when do you get to pick where you go? Oh, never mind. I forgot the part about you being meritcloutorious.
And, if your claim that you chose to go to 007 is true, how stupid are you to tell it.
He will be back in the academy before summer 2011, you heard it here first.
And your point is???? im one of the new sgts and Im being sent to 022 and I will trade with you any day. Im not even from the southside. its gonna take me well over an hour to travel to work everyday. quit your crying and do your job. nobody wants to hear your whining about not being able to get out of a district. your getting paid a pretty good buck... but if your in 003 or 005 then that just flat out blows.. hahahah, well, I guess I can hang out at some of my friends houses in 022 while im workin, hey... maybe 022 wont be all that bad. enjoy 3, 5 or 6 cry baby!
ADS Tobias meritcloutorioused one of the new sergeants, a guy by the name of Snelling, who was interviewed on television after the graduation. Snelling said he chose to go to 007 in honor of Thor Soderberg.
Honorable sentiment there sarge, but since when do you get to pick where you go? Oh, never mind. I forgot the part about you being meritcloutorious.
And, if your claim that you chose to go to 007 is true, how stupid are you to tell it?
9/18/2010 11:39:00 AM
Like to see you say it to his face. Oh thats rights you don't have any balls. Good luck Larry.
ADS Tobias meritcloutorioused one of the new sergeants, a guy by the name of Snelling, who was interviewed on television after the graduation. Snelling said he chose to go to 007 in honor of Thor Soderberg.
Honorable sentiment there sarge, but since when do you get to pick where you go? Oh, never mind. I forgot the part about you being meritcloutorious.
And, if your claim that you chose to go to 007 is true, how stupid are you to tell it?
9/18/2010 11:39:00 AM
snelling worked in housing for who? Ernie Brown, Who was his sgt? Carothers!! I think you's can figure out the math.
Sgt. Schultz said... I've been a Sgt.for 15 years. Been trying to get to 024 so I can slow down. Tired of working in a busy district. Still stuck in a hellhole and not able to get to 024.
9/18/2010 02:44:00 PM
That is impossible. Either 16 or 14 years. Classes in 94 and 96. By the way 024 is the busiest district north of belmont.
ADS Tobias meritcloutorioused one of the new sergeants, a guy by the name of Snelling, who was interviewed on television after the graduation. Snelling said he chose to go to 007 in honor of Thor Soderberg.
Gee boss, make me a meritorious Lieutenant and I'll go work in 023 in honor of Alan Haymaker.
You know what, smartass, you need to get a life. Larry knows damn well he was fortunate to be selected, and you know what? He DESERVED it. He's done a fantastic job down at the Academy for years. And you know what else? All of the Sgts. were allowed to put their picks on a sheet of paper, and if they were lucky, some got their pick. How many of the OTHER Sgts. in the class chose 007? I salute Snelling, he's got bigger balls than just about every copper I know. Go get 'em Larry, and continue to do a good job. God knows the Englewood Rangers need a Sgt who can be a leader AND a role model. We all know that no one can say that about their asshole superclouted Cmdr!
9/18/2010 10:36:00 PM
Like to see you say it to his face. Oh thats rights you don't have any balls. Good luck Larry.
RIP Soderberg
9/19/2010 09:37:00 AM
You two clowns must be in denial.
Snelling might be a great guy that is dedicated, but, he worked at the academy, had days with weekends off, which means he was not in court and could study his ass off at work and in the evening, no less, and had all the study material available to him that one could handle, and he still needed to be made meritcloutorious!? What the f**k?
Plus, he should not have been merited before hundreds of others that do not have days with weekends off, that aggressively work the street and produce tour after tour, that put up with the bullshit on the street and within the organization, and see a true weekend once every now and again, some of which were ahead of Snelling on the "real" list.
Fuck him. You want to have a chance to be merited? Then work the street and produce. You want to teach and hide with a nice schedule, then you've taken yourself out of the game. Fuck you and Snelling. And Brown. And Carothers.
I thought they used to open the bids for the current Sgts. before they assigned the new ones. Why the hose jobs on the current Sgts.?
Well maybe some of the merit guys juice says they get first shot. Is this a Union issue? PBPA?
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It's NOT in the PBPA Sgts contract.
The city has discretion on weather they want to open up spots when a new Sgts class is made.
Since the city, the department or the Mayor don't know if they are going to shut down CAPS they don't really know if they are going to free up 25 to 50+ current sergeants which are tied up in CAPS now.
When we do get to bid, the spots available are always on 1st watch and only in 011 and Area 2 districts. BS!
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Read your PBPA Sgts contract and you'll know why.
FIRST, the bids are open in the district; INTRA-DISTRICT first. THEN, the following period if no one from the district were the vacancy takes the bid spot, the department will then open the bid up to CITYWIDE BID.
For instance if a bid on 2nd watch opens up anywhere you can bet that someone from within the district will grab that spot BEFORE it can go to citywide bid. If their is an Intra-District opening in any good district (016, 017 etc.) even on 1st watch, someone from that district will more than likely take the spot.
ALSO, the city does not have to open up a bid spot unless their are at least 2 bid openings in a district / watch. ie: 016 has a bid spot open on 1st watch, the city does not have to open it up to bid. If there is 2 opening they have to. SO, to say they least it is very unlikely anyone will vacate a decent district like 016.
Plus, he should not have been merited before hundreds of others that do not have days with weekends off, that aggressively work the street and produce tour after tour, that put up with the bullshit on the street and within the organization, and see a true weekend once every now and again, some of which were ahead of Snelling on the "real" list.
Fuck him. You want to have a chance to be merited? Then work the street and produce. You want to teach and hide with a nice schedule, then you've taken yourself out of the game. Fuck you and Snelling. And Brown. And Carothers.
9/19/2010 02:10:00 PM
Wake up and smell the coffee son. Patrol is at the bottom of the list. How many promotions came from patrol? How many merit choices came from patrol? Working the street is not highly rated today. Be a driver for Weiss or work a specialized unit then you have a chance for a promotion. Larry is qualified and deserves he promotion. Move along now.
When I said 15, I rounded up. You always do that. And as far as 024 being the busiest district north of Belmont,so what? On it's busiest day, 024 couldn't compare to where I'm at now as far as being busy. The busiest day there would feel like a vacation day compared to the district I'm already in.
And your point is???? im one of the new sgts and Im being sent to 022 and I will trade with you any day. Im not even from the southside. its gonna take me well over an hour to travel to work everyday. quit your crying and do your job. nobody wants to hear your whining about not being able to get out of a district. your getting paid a pretty good buck... but if your in 003 or 005 then that just flat out blows.. hahahah, well, I guess I can hang out at some of my friends houses in 022 while im workin, hey... maybe 022 wont be all that bad. enjoy 3, 5 or 6 cry baby! If this is true, you should of made DICK not sgt, but guess what I visit 22 all the time, and if this is true, you better be doing your job, because I will do mine...My bars trump your stripes.
I sometimes read the shit people put here and realize thats why the muts in the streets have an edge on us! We act as though we are jealous that some got promoted. I am happy when someone I know gets a promotion. The Sup shouldnt be upset about some of the bad comments about him. Some of us say bad about everyone. Do all of us a favor angry at the world salty dogs: RETIRE! Congrats all new sergeants-just be safe wherever you are assigned.
You know what, smartass, you need to get a life. Larry knows damn well he was fortunate to be selected, and you know what? He DESERVED it. He's done a fantastic job down at the Academy for years. And you know what else? All of the Sgts. were allowed to put their picks on a sheet of paper, and if they were lucky, some got their pick. How many of the OTHER Sgts. in the class chose 007? I salute Snelling, he's got bigger balls than just about every copper I know. Go get 'em Larry, and continue to do a good job. God knows the Englewood Rangers need a Sgt who can be a leader AND a role model. We all know that no one can say that about their asshole superclouted Cmdr! ------------------
"he's done a great job at the academy"
By far the funniest thing I've ever read on this blog.
The academy. An academy that hasn't had more than 100 PPOs in the last 3 years.
That was truly a great post. Total sarcasm. I love it.
If you are in a place worse that 024 and you have 15 yrs as a Sgt, it sounds like YOU WANT TO BE THERE! After 25 yrs on this job, make a phone call, blow someone, get out of the car go talk to the local "Pastor". But don't make us think you're in a shit hole and can't get out. Hope you take care of the troops, that's all that counts.
Wake up and smell the coffee son. Patrol is at the bottom of the list. How many promotions came from patrol? How many merit choices came from patrol? Working the street is not highly rated today. Be a driver for Weiss or work a specialized unit then you have a chance for a promotion. Larry is qualified and deserves he promotion. Move along now.
9/19/2010 04:00:00 PM
So, under this fucked up meritcloutorious system, Larry is qualified and deserves the promotion? I cannot believe a fool like you even exists. You are an idiot and so is Snelling.
OMG with the taxes we pay in 022 and now we get a NS nitwit rookie Sgt. that inadvertantly outed his identity. You're no rocket scientist son and I wish you no harm but I'd give my eyeteeth to be present the day some twelve yr old southside female with the claws of a puma and the legs of a gazelle beats the rats-ass off of you in public. She'll do it with no obvious effort at all. Happens every time. Watch and see.
Fuck him. You want to have a chance to be merited? Then work the street and produce. You want to teach and hide with a nice schedule, then you've taken yourself out of the game. Fuck you and Snelling. And Brown. And Carothers.
Who the hell cares? Where is my next cherry turnover coming from and is it fresh? And hot fresh and strong coffee with lots of cream and one spoon of sugar.
That's important.
And shoes that fit. And taking a good crap every day. And sleeping good at night.
That's important.
Not arguing over bullshit on this phony baloney fucking job.
I ran the seniority list and pulled up this, problem was their SENIORITY DATE is a duplicate of Continuos service date
here are the rank order selections: • Barry,KevinJ Unit610 to 12 2ndwatch Cruz,Ralph Unit153 to 4 4thwatch Davies,Tracy Unit610 to 14 2ndwatch Ellman,ChristineE Unit142 to 22 2ndwatch Ferraro,Joseph Unit025 to 21 3rdwatch Garrison,Magdelena Unit549 to11detailedto549 2ndwatch Jones,JessicaM Unit610 to 16 2ndwatch Kendzior,KevinG Unit024 to 11 1stwatch Kinnane,Brian Unit214 to6detailedto214 3rdwatch Maglaras,Spiro Unit253 to 18 1stwatch Mammoser,CharlesL Unit116 to 18 2ndwatch Marietta-Jezior,Angela Unit006 to 9 3rdwatch Martin,MaryK Unit017 to 14 3rdwatch McGovern,JamesF Unit650 to 20 3rdwatch McLoughlin,NealM Unit650 to 20 2ndwatch Panosh,EdwardA Unit650 to 17 1stwatch Petroski,StevenM Unit253 to 253 1stwatch Ptaskowski,ToddE Unit021 to 9 2ndwatch Skol,LarryW Unit010 didn’tfind Uchman,Roxane Unit620 to 3 3rdwatch Wright, Brian E Unit 650 to 24 3rd watch And for the first time ever, here are the "meri-clout-orious" INCLUDING their sponsors!!! • Andaverde,Federico Unit189 Cmdr.Kangarone to 3 2nd watch Brown,CharlesE Unit153 CmdrA.Carothers to 6 3rd watch DeDore,JackM Unit193 CmdrS.Roti to 10 2nd watch Goldsmith,FloydC Unit189 CmdrR.Roman to 15 3rd watch Koenig,DavidM Unit315 CmdrL.Shmitz to 2 4th watch Snelling,LarryB Unit124 ADSM.Tobias to 22 2nd watch Talley,Yolanda Unit189 D/CA.Wysinger to 7 2nd watch Torres,Esmelida Unit010 CmdrB.Ruiz to 9 2nd watch Torres,Wilfredo Unit 650 Cmdr J. Salemme to 16 1st watch
Sgt. Schultz said... When I said 15, I rounded up. You always do that. And as far as 024 being the busiest district north of Belmont,so what? On it's busiest day, 024 couldn't compare to where I'm at now as far as being busy. The busiest day there would feel like a vacation day compared to the district I'm already in.
Sgt.Shitzz,
There are 88 Sgts left from the class of 01 Apr 1996. Out of that there is 1 in 004, 1 in 008, 2 in 009, 1 in 010, and 1 in 011. If one of them wanted out they could have bid out years ago.
to the sgt's in 022 who have to listen to the newby complain about the hour drive hope yall give him a REAL WARM WELCOME.....try working in a ghetto district for 2 years before they open a bid. and of course on midnights
Wow where are the bids? "I dunno know what happened. Didnt you post the bids, no I thought you were going to, no you're the new boss of patrol. Oh ,am I suppose to remember to post the bids? Yeah its you job? Oh I forgot"
Its a new era in this dept. welcome new bosses, great leadership!!!
wonder if there is a contract violation here. Shouldn't the current sergeants get to bid on openings first, then the new sgts. go to whatever is open?
OR is it that some of the poor new sgts. don't want to go to the bad districts and put there time in on 1st watch in 003, 011, etc.?
I am sure it is all very legitimate.
9/18/2010 11:13:00 AM
The wonderful Sgt. Assoc. doesn't have anything in their contract addressing the appointments of new Sgts. Too bad for the "experience" ones that get to stay in 007, 004, 003 on midnites & lead the "Real Police"!!! Nobody told you that this job is legit. You guys got what you desreved!!!!!!!!!!!
Ask any recruit that has ever had snelling and i guarantee you that he is respected if not admired by all.
Why don't you try teaching the use of force to corporation counsel, command staff, and disgruntled/know it all police officers before you challenge his promotion?
you wouldn't want his job even if you had weekends off and on days.
Pretty dumb arguements over who is the real police and who is not and which district is tougher and who is assigned to the 2nd watch etc. Life is just not always fair. Things have always been this way and I do not see it changing anytime soon. Your wasting energy!!
Anonymous said... Does anyone know where the driver/merit Sgt. was sent to?
9/20/2010 06:11:00 AM
He ended up in 15 third watch...what is your point? Goldsmith has never been the type of guy to expect special treatment. Someone finally noticed his talent and he is damned by association.
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Seen it, dont have it.
004 & 005 get none. 018 gets 3.
15 going northside
15 going south or west.
Watch and unit bids coming soon. Obviously the fix is in already. Put your clout in and then open up the reshuffle. Classic. Oh,and sure the tests were fair.
LMMFAO
I saw the list signed by E Brown...didn't look like a regular order. The graduated on the 16th.
So with the Sgts out. Where's the detective class that the Supt. posted on his blog 501 that he wanted to make. Maybe we will see a fifth Sgts. class before a detectives class.
Sgt's list is similar to what you posted and some good assignments for them. graduated a cupla 2 tree days ago ? if you are looking over the w/c's shoulder they have the list and the lieutenants' list also
Been a sgt for 5 yrs in A/2 and Dont even get the chance to bid. These new guys go right to 022, 016,017 etc. Fuck that.
At least in the old days they would send these guys to hell holes (on paper) and then detail them to a unit or something.
Smoke and mirrors...
I hope you meant you're a sgt. in Area 2 Patrol Division. Cuz if you're a sgt. in Area 2 - wah wah, poor me.
Been a sgt for 5 yrs in A/2 and Dont even get the chance to bid. These new guys go right to 022, 016,017 etc. Fuck that.
Ha ha Chump! I had a phone call, you didn't.
Just when you thought the dept could'nt get any lower in moral. BANG! they assign new Sgt's to great dist without opening the bid to Sgt's that have been stuck going south for the past 2/3yrs. REALLY! WOW! hey thanks for playin but...... oh and throw some more pie in your face, the double merit pick ummmmm lets send him to 016 REALLY! UNREAL!
I seriously doubt that there will be a detectives class. That would simply slow down the measly attempt to swell the ranks of patrolman. There are no rumors of a class anytime soon. We'll just have to do more with less as they say...
004 & 005 get none. 018 gets 3.
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The vaunted Michigan Ave and Entertainment Details need more first-rate leadership because we can't do it all anymore. Too much stress.
It's time for us to start transitioning, what with our Hometown retirement just around the corner. Trust us: 018 will settle for whatever clouted leadership the boss man allows.
I thought they used to open the bids for the current Sgts. before they assigned the new ones. Why the hose jobs on the current Sgts.?
Well maybe some of the merit guys juice says they get first shot. Is this a Union issue? PBPA?
Who cares?
these new sgt a bunch of clowns
all these sgt to fk with people what is this a circus.
Who cares? If your name isn't on it why do you care?
020 got two Sgts, to cover the four that have retired in the past five months.
One went to midnights, the other third watch. Days is still short two sgts, afternoon is still short three sgts and midnights is still short two sgts.
Who was the newly made sergeant that went right to IAD...? Inquiring MInds Want to Know
I wonder if there is a contract violation here. Shouldn't the current sergeants get to bid on openings first, then the new sgts. go to whatever is open?
OR is it that some of the poor new sgts. don't want to go to the bad districts and put there time in on 1st watch in 003, 011, etc.?
I am sure it is all very legitimate.
Some of the suckasses are going to MSF. Heard it here first.
SL
Complete bullshit! Why are new Sgts. going directly to cushier northside districts and the war-weary vet stripers have to remain out in Area 2 and Area 1 locations? They may as well have called that Sgt. class what it obviously was (at least from
the Merit section): 'the clout list!'
ADS Tobias meritcloutorioused one of the new sergeants, a guy by the name of Snelling, who was interviewed on television after the graduation. Snelling said he chose to go to 007 in honor of Thor Soderberg.
Honorable sentiment there sarge, but since when do you get to pick where you go? Oh, never mind. I forgot the part about you being meritcloutorious.
And, if your claim that you chose to go to 007 is true, how stupid are you to tell it?
Been a sgt for 5 yrs in A/2 and Dont even get the chance to bid. These new guys go right to 022, 016,017 etc. Fuck that.
I agree. The list is on the Intranet. It really suck that new sergeants get to go to districts on 3rd watch and the old sergeants don't get to bid for any district spots or get chances to get off 1st watch. When we do get to bid, the spots available are always on 1st watch and only in 011 and Area 2 districts. BS!
"Been a sgt for 5 yrs in A/2....."
Sorry, sarge, but you have to do ten years with "Patty Cakes" to earn the "privilege" to bid to another assignment. Good luck!
OMG!
In uniform!
Where!
Where's my phone call?!?!
Sgt's assoc is supposed to be filing a grievance because that ignorant director of personnel didn't open up the spots to the incumbent sgts first.
Yep, they graduated on Thursday and placed in cushy north side districts immediately. O'Brien and Brown stuck it right up the asses of all the hardworking sergeants on the west side and south side paying their dues and trying to get north. Thanks Commander of Management and Labor Affairs and downtown Ernie Brown. Thanks to you two morons you just allowed a sergeant with 8 days in grade to bid and get any inner district opening on the 24th in the districts they were placed in; therefor screwing us next month on any openings on the north side when citywide bids come out. PBPA has no say so in the matter but the downtown commonly has a citywide bid prior to a new class, out of respect, but not this time. Class acts, those two!
Been a sgt for 5 yrs in A/2 and Dont even get the chance to bid. These new guys go right to 022, 016,017 etc. Fuck that
And your point is???? im one of the new sgts and Im being sent to 022 and I will trade with you any day. Im not even from the southside. its gonna take me well over an hour to travel to work everyday. quit your crying and do your job. nobody wants to hear your whining about not being able to get out of a district. your getting paid a pretty good buck... but if your in 003 or 005 then that just flat out blows.. hahahah, well, I guess I can hang out at some of my friends houses in 022 while im workin, hey... maybe 022 wont be all that bad. enjoy 3, 5 or 6 cry baby!
/18/2010 01:19:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Been a sgt for 5 yrs in A/2 and Dont even get the chance to bid. These new guys go right to 022, 016,017 etc. Fuck that.
9/18/2010 02:06:00 AM
Those new birds will not learn fast enough.
If you are a Sgt. in the D, then quit complaining, unless you would rather be working midnights somewhere.
two sgts went to 016th!! was it that all about, how in the hell are you going to teach them anything! Oh well let's wait for the Lt's list not out yet but should be on the 28th....we shall see
018 got two, not three
I've been a Sgt.for 15 years. Been trying to get to 024 so I can slow down. Tired of working in a busy district. Still stuck in a hellhole and not able to get to 024.
Clout rules!
Where did the Supt. old driver wind up at? probably in 018
Been a sgt for 5 yrs in A/2 and Dont even get the chance to bid. These new guys go right to 022, 016,017 etc.
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Tough luck whiteshirt
The bids for sergeants should have been put out before the new sergeants were assigned. Typical bs.
thank you triple merit LAPA commander Scot Ruiz -010- for making Merit LAPA Sergeant Torres, what a real prize. NOT A FU*&@#G CLUE IN THE WORLD> USELESS, just like you are RUIZ.
018 gets three? HAAA what a fucking joke
fn right we go to 16 and 22
we are merit and dserve the best
thanks jfled
That's all we need more merit picks up North!
so where is their PBPA....working on an appeal
And, if your claim that you chose to go to 007 is true, how stupid are you to tell it?
9/18/2010 11:39:00 AM
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But he didn't go to 007.. AND he worked tact in 007 prior to going to the academy.. one of the good guys.
Anonymous said...
Who was the newly made sergeant that went right to IAD...? Inquiring MInds Want to Know
9/18/2010 10:49:00 AM
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They usually do that with every sgt class. Three from my class went right away. They usually recruit former detectives.
hey scc why dont u mmake a post about how much the fool ladner has messed up promotions, transfer bid for B&A, now the Sgts, etc.
'ADS Tobias meritcloutorioused one of the new sergeants, a guy by the name of Snelling, who was interviewed on television after the graduation. Snelling said he chose to go to 007 in honor of Thor Soderberg.
Honorable sentiment there sarge, but since when do you get to pick where you go? Oh, never mind. I forgot the part about you being meritcloutorious.
And, if your claim that you chose to go to 007 is true, how stupid are you to tell it?'
You know what, smartass, you need to get a life. Larry knows damn well he was fortunate to be selected, and you know what? He DESERVED it.
He's done a fantastic job down at the Academy for years. And you know what else? All of the Sgts. were allowed to put their picks on a sheet of paper, and if they were lucky, some got their pick. How many of the OTHER Sgts. in the class chose 007? I salute Snelling, he's got bigger balls than just about every copper I know. Go get 'em Larry, and continue to do a good job. God knows the Englewood Rangers need a Sgt who can be a leader AND a role model.
We all know that no one can say that about their asshole superclouted Cmdr!
Merit Picks not Merit spots immediately after graduation. What district did JFled's driver get assigned to or is he back driving now with chevrons.
hey fuck you to the srg punk going to 022
what district did carother's pick go to?
On Furlo, but can somebody post....
Where did Floyd "The Great Communicator" Goldsmith go?
No rumors about detectives class. What are you deaf? Also everyone has some sort of time frame. The question is truth or typical BS.
commander of mlas sold out captains for a gold star
think he cares about sgts , he does what eb tells him to do
To the Sgt who wants to come to 024 after 15 years, please come. Call Rottner and wish him a Happy New Year...or something.
And to the "new sgt" who is calling the sgt in A/2 a whiner and a cry baby...what's the point of being anonymous, we're going to find out who your dumb ass is when the list come around.
Glad you aren't coming to 024, genius. Stay out south and step on your dick some more....ass hat.
Can someone post list, im on furlough...
I beg to differ on "the merits going up north". The 2 that 020 got ARE NOT merits, and they both were and are the working Police hands down. Congrats to the both of them. You guys and gals in 020 will appreciate them being there, trust me.
LMMFAO
9/18/2010 12:14:00 AM
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This is the first time I ever saw someone stutter on the internet ....
Been a sgt for 5 yrs in A/2 and Dont even get the chance to bid. These new guys go right to 022, 016,017 etc. Fuck that
And your point is???? im one of the new sgts and Im being sent to 022 and I will trade with you any day. Im not even from the southside. its gonna take me well over an hour to travel to work everyday. quit your crying and do your job. nobody wants to hear your whining about not being able to get out of a district. your getting paid a pretty good buck... but if your in 003 or 005 then that just flat out blows.. hahahah, well, I guess I can hang out at some of my friends houses in 022 while im workin, hey... maybe 022 wont be all that bad. enjoy 3, 5 or 6 cry baby!
9/18/2010 01:31:00 PM
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where the fuck is this coming from? Isn't there always a bid before a class graduates?
and aren't you crying too? how do I know you are over 1 hour away from 022 then ? because you are on here crying about it that's how
WTF??
Cheer up! Hey you could be stuck with know it all Butter Bean Betz in 193 listening to him complain to everyone about how the Commander there fucked him by not putting him in for Lt. and how he sacrificed everything to come inside to do everything for him. Blah, blah, blah!
What a goof! Here's s quarter call someone who cares!
Anonymous said...
ADS Tobias meritcloutorioused one of the new sergeants, a guy by the name of Snelling, who was interviewed on television after the graduation. Snelling said he chose to go to 007 in honor of Thor Soderberg.
Honorable sentiment there sarge, but since when do you get to pick where you go? Oh, never mind. I forgot the part about you being meritcloutorious.
And, if your claim that you chose to go to 007 is true, how stupid are you to tell it.
He will be back in the academy before summer 2011, you heard it here first.
And your point is???? im one of the new sgts and Im being sent to 022 and I will trade with you any day. Im not even from the southside. its gonna take me well over an hour to travel to work everyday. quit your crying and do your job. nobody wants to hear your whining about not being able to get out of a district. your getting paid a pretty good buck... but if your in 003 or 005 then that just flat out blows.. hahahah, well, I guess I can hang out at some of my friends houses in 022 while im workin, hey... maybe 022 wont be all that bad. enjoy 3, 5 or 6 cry baby!
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Wow. You're an asshole, new sarge!
ADS Tobias meritcloutorioused one of the new sergeants, a guy by the name of Snelling, who was interviewed on television after the graduation. Snelling said he chose to go to 007 in honor of Thor Soderberg.
Honorable sentiment there sarge, but since when do you get to pick where you go? Oh, never mind. I forgot the part about you being meritcloutorious.
And, if your claim that you chose to go to 007 is true, how stupid are you to tell it?
9/18/2010 11:39:00 AM
Like to see you say it to his face. Oh thats rights you don't have any balls. Good luck Larry.
RIP Soderberg
ADS Tobias meritcloutorioused one of the new sergeants, a guy by the name of Snelling, who was interviewed on television after the graduation. Snelling said he chose to go to 007 in honor of Thor Soderberg.
Honorable sentiment there sarge, but since when do you get to pick where you go? Oh, never mind. I forgot the part about you being meritcloutorious.
And, if your claim that you chose to go to 007 is true, how stupid are you to tell it?
9/18/2010 11:39:00 AM
snelling worked in housing for who? Ernie Brown, Who was his sgt? Carothers!! I think you's can figure out the math.
Sgt. Schultz said...
I've been a Sgt.for 15 years. Been trying to get to 024 so I can slow down. Tired of working in a busy district. Still stuck in a hellhole and not able to get to 024.
9/18/2010 02:44:00 PM
That is impossible. Either 16 or 14 years. Classes in 94 and 96. By the way 024 is the busiest district north of belmont.
ADS Tobias meritcloutorioused one of the new sergeants, a guy by the name of Snelling, who was interviewed on television after the graduation. Snelling said he chose to go to 007 in honor of Thor Soderberg.
Gee boss, make me a meritorious Lieutenant and I'll go work in 023 in honor of Alan Haymaker.
Hey Scc, Can you please post the list?
Thank you
We would if we had it.
You know what, smartass, you need to get a life. Larry knows damn well he was fortunate to be selected, and you know what? He DESERVED it. He's done a fantastic job down at the Academy for years. And you know what else? All of the Sgts. were allowed to put their picks on a sheet of paper, and if they were lucky, some got their pick. How many of the OTHER Sgts. in the class chose 007? I salute Snelling, he's got bigger balls than just about every copper I know. Go get 'em Larry, and continue to do a good job. God knows the Englewood Rangers need a Sgt who can be a leader AND a role model.
We all know that no one can say that about their asshole superclouted Cmdr!
9/18/2010 10:36:00 PM
Like to see you say it to his face. Oh thats rights you don't have any balls. Good luck Larry.
RIP Soderberg
9/19/2010 09:37:00 AM
You two clowns must be in denial.
Snelling might be a great guy that is dedicated, but, he worked at the academy, had days with weekends off, which means he was not in court and could study his ass off at work and in the evening, no less, and had all the study material available to him that one could handle, and he still needed to be made meritcloutorious!? What the f**k?
Plus, he should not have been merited before hundreds of others that do not have days with weekends off, that aggressively work the street and produce tour after tour, that put up with the bullshit on the street and within the organization, and see a true weekend once every now and again, some of which were ahead of Snelling on the "real" list.
Fuck him. You want to have a chance to be merited? Then work the street and produce. You want to teach and hide with a nice schedule, then you've taken yourself out of the game. Fuck you and Snelling. And Brown. And Carothers.
I thought they used to open the bids for the current Sgts. before they assigned the new ones. Why the hose jobs on the current Sgts.?
Well maybe some of the merit guys juice says they get first shot. Is this a Union issue? PBPA?
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It's NOT in the PBPA Sgts contract.
The city has discretion on weather they want to open up spots when a new Sgts class is made.
Since the city, the department or the Mayor don't know if they are going to shut down CAPS they don't really know if they are going to free up 25 to 50+ current sergeants which are tied up in CAPS now.
When we do get to bid, the spots available are always on 1st watch and only in 011 and Area 2 districts. BS!
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Read your PBPA Sgts contract and you'll know why.
FIRST, the bids are open in the district; INTRA-DISTRICT first.
THEN, the following period if no one from the district were the vacancy takes the bid spot, the department will then open the bid up to CITYWIDE BID.
For instance if a bid on 2nd watch opens up anywhere you can bet that someone from within the district will grab that spot BEFORE it can go to citywide bid.
If their is an Intra-District opening in any good district (016, 017 etc.) even on 1st watch, someone from that district will more than likely take the spot.
ALSO, the city does not have to open up a bid spot unless their are at least 2 bid openings in a district / watch. ie: 016 has a bid spot open on 1st watch, the city does not have to open it up to bid. If there is 2 opening they have to. SO, to say they least it is very unlikely anyone will vacate a decent district like 016.
Sgt's assoc is supposed to be filing a grievance because that ignorant director of personnel didn't open up the spots to the incumbent sgts first.
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it's NOT in the PBPA Sgts contract son.
Plus, he should not have been merited before hundreds of others that do not have days with weekends off, that aggressively work the street and produce tour after tour, that put up with the bullshit on the street and within the organization, and see a true weekend once every now and again, some of which were ahead of Snelling on the "real" list.
Fuck him. You want to have a chance to be merited? Then work the street and produce. You want to teach and hide with a nice schedule, then you've taken yourself out of the game. Fuck you and Snelling. And Brown. And Carothers.
9/19/2010 02:10:00 PM
Wake up and smell the coffee son. Patrol is at the bottom of the list. How many promotions came from patrol? How many merit choices came from patrol? Working the street is not highly rated today. Be a driver for Weiss or work a specialized unit then you have a chance for a promotion. Larry is qualified and deserves he promotion. Move along now.
When I said 15, I rounded up. You always do that. And as far as 024 being the busiest district north of Belmont,so what? On it's busiest day, 024 couldn't compare to where I'm at now as far as being busy. The busiest day there would feel like a vacation day compared to the district I'm already in.
And your point is???? im one of the new sgts and Im being sent to 022 and I will trade with you any day. Im not even from the southside. its gonna take me well over an hour to travel to work everyday. quit your crying and do your job. nobody wants to hear your whining about not being able to get out of a district. your getting paid a pretty good buck... but if your in 003 or 005 then that just flat out blows.. hahahah, well, I guess I can hang out at some of my friends houses in 022 while im workin, hey... maybe 022 wont be all that bad. enjoy 3, 5 or 6 cry baby!
If this is true, you should of made DICK not sgt, but guess what I visit 22 all the time, and if this is true, you better be doing your job, because I will do mine...My bars trump your stripes.
Thats all 022 needs, another fucking retard. You'll fit in well new sgt.
I sometimes read the shit people put here and realize thats why the muts in the streets have an edge on us!
We act as though we are jealous that some got promoted.
I am happy when someone I know gets a promotion.
The Sup shouldnt be upset about some of the bad comments about him. Some of us say bad about everyone.
Do all of us a favor angry at the world salty dogs: RETIRE!
Congrats all new sergeants-just be safe wherever you are assigned.
Dave Betz is good people. Top shelf guy.
You know what, smartass, you need to get a life. Larry knows damn well he was fortunate to be selected, and you know what? He DESERVED it.
He's done a fantastic job down at the Academy for years. And you know what else? All of the Sgts. were allowed to put their picks on a sheet of paper, and if they were lucky, some got their pick. How many of the OTHER Sgts. in the class chose 007? I salute Snelling, he's got bigger balls than just about every copper I know. Go get 'em Larry, and continue to do a good job. God knows the Englewood Rangers need a Sgt who can be a leader AND a role model.
We all know that no one can say that about their asshole superclouted Cmdr!
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"he's done a great job at the academy"
By far the funniest thing I've ever read on this blog.
The academy. An academy that hasn't had more than 100 PPOs in the last 3 years.
That was truly a great post. Total sarcasm. I love it.
No supervision is great!
Hey Sarge, 024 ain't that great. 15 yrs as a D-3 ya haven't figured that out.
If you are in a place worse that 024 and you have 15 yrs as a Sgt, it sounds like YOU WANT TO BE THERE! After 25 yrs on this job, make a phone call, blow someone, get out of the car go talk to the local "Pastor". But don't make us think you're in a shit hole and can't get out.
Hope you take care of the troops, that's all that counts.
Dave Betz is good people. Top shelf guy.
9/19/2010 07:53:00 PM
OK Dave!
Wake up and smell the coffee son. Patrol is at the bottom of the list. How many promotions came from patrol? How many merit choices came from patrol? Working the street is not highly rated today. Be a driver for Weiss or work a specialized unit then you have a chance for a promotion. Larry is qualified and deserves he promotion. Move along now.
9/19/2010 04:00:00 PM
So, under this fucked up meritcloutorious system, Larry is qualified and deserves the promotion? I cannot believe a fool like you even exists. You are an idiot and so is Snelling.
OMG with the taxes we pay in 022 and now we get a NS nitwit rookie Sgt. that inadvertantly outed his identity. You're no rocket scientist son and I wish you no harm but I'd give my eyeteeth to be present the day some twelve yr old southside female with the claws of a puma and the legs of a gazelle beats the rats-ass off of you in public. She'll do it with no obvious effort at all. Happens every time. Watch and see.
Fuck him. You want to have a chance to be merited? Then work the street and produce. You want to teach and hide with a nice schedule, then you've taken yourself out of the game. Fuck you and Snelling. And Brown. And Carothers.
9/19/2010 02:10:00 PM
Like I said no balls!!!
Does anyone know where the driver/merit Sgt. was sent to?
Who the hell cares? Where is my next cherry turnover coming from and is it fresh? And hot fresh and strong coffee with lots of cream and one spoon of sugar.
That's important.
And shoes that fit. And taking a good crap every day. And sleeping good at night.
That's important.
Not arguing over bullshit on this phony baloney fucking job.
Had a phone call and still crying about your assignment what a surprise!!
I ran the seniority list and pulled up this, problem was their SENIORITY DATE is a duplicate of Continuos service date
here are the rank order selections:
• Barry,KevinJ Unit610 to 12 2ndwatch
Cruz,Ralph Unit153 to 4 4thwatch
Davies,Tracy Unit610 to 14 2ndwatch
Ellman,ChristineE Unit142 to 22 2ndwatch
Ferraro,Joseph Unit025 to 21 3rdwatch
Garrison,Magdelena Unit549 to11detailedto549 2ndwatch
Jones,JessicaM Unit610 to 16 2ndwatch
Kendzior,KevinG Unit024 to 11 1stwatch
Kinnane,Brian Unit214 to6detailedto214 3rdwatch
Maglaras,Spiro Unit253 to 18 1stwatch
Mammoser,CharlesL Unit116 to 18 2ndwatch
Marietta-Jezior,Angela Unit006 to 9 3rdwatch
Martin,MaryK Unit017 to 14 3rdwatch
McGovern,JamesF Unit650 to 20 3rdwatch
McLoughlin,NealM Unit650 to 20 2ndwatch
Panosh,EdwardA Unit650 to 17 1stwatch
Petroski,StevenM Unit253 to 253 1stwatch
Ptaskowski,ToddE Unit021 to 9 2ndwatch
Skol,LarryW Unit010 didn’tfind
Uchman,Roxane Unit620 to 3 3rdwatch
Wright, Brian E Unit 650 to 24 3rd watch
And for the first time ever, here are the "meri-clout-orious" INCLUDING their sponsors!!!
• Andaverde,Federico Unit189 Cmdr.Kangarone to 3 2nd watch
Brown,CharlesE Unit153 CmdrA.Carothers to 6 3rd watch
DeDore,JackM Unit193 CmdrS.Roti to 10 2nd watch
Goldsmith,FloydC Unit189 CmdrR.Roman to 15 3rd watch
Koenig,DavidM Unit315 CmdrL.Shmitz to 2 4th watch
Snelling,LarryB Unit124 ADSM.Tobias to 22 2nd watch
Talley,Yolanda Unit189 D/CA.Wysinger to 7 2nd watch
Torres,Esmelida Unit010 CmdrB.Ruiz to 9 2nd watch
Torres,Wilfredo Unit 650 Cmdr J. Salemme to 16 1st watch
Sgt. Schultz said...
When I said 15, I rounded up. You always do that. And as far as 024 being the busiest district north of Belmont,so what? On it's busiest day, 024 couldn't compare to where I'm at now as far as being busy. The busiest day there would feel like a vacation day compared to the district I'm already in.
Sgt.Shitzz,
There are 88 Sgts left from the class of 01 Apr 1996. Out of that there is 1 in 004, 1 in 008, 2 in 009, 1 in 010, and 1 in 011. If one of them wanted out they could have bid out years ago.
You sir, are full of shit.
Larry is a great guy but he never worked in Public housing....He worked in 002nd district....Get you facts straight
to the sgt's in 022 who have to listen to the newby complain about the hour drive hope yall give him a REAL WARM WELCOME.....try working in a ghetto district for 2 years before they open a bid. and of course on midnights
Wow where are the bids? "I dunno know what happened. Didnt you post the bids, no I thought you were going to, no you're the new boss of patrol. Oh ,am I suppose to remember to post the bids? Yeah its you job? Oh I forgot"
Its a new era in this dept. welcome new bosses, great leadership!!!
Davies,Tracy Unit 610 to 14 2ndwatch
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Made detective with 6 years on.
Makes sergeant with 10 years and goes to days in 014....
what gives??
Connected to Commander FLORES 014? A Boss?
PREDICTIVE ANALYSIS!!!!!!!
Another Sgts class before years end???
Is it a coincidence that 6 of the 7 F's end up on the 2nd watch Some things never change
What is unit 549? Thought everyone went to patrol, not patrol and then detailed back to the special unit you came from
wonder if there is a contract violation here. Shouldn't the current sergeants get to bid on openings first, then the new sgts. go to whatever is open?
OR is it that some of the poor new sgts. don't want to go to the bad districts and put there time in on 1st watch in 003, 011, etc.?
I am sure it is all very legitimate.
9/18/2010 11:13:00 AM
The wonderful Sgt. Assoc. doesn't have anything in their contract addressing the appointments of new Sgts. Too bad for the "experience" ones that get to stay in 007, 004, 003 on midnites & lead the "Real Police"!!! Nobody told you that this job is legit. You guys got what you desreved!!!!!!!!!!!
Ask any recruit that has ever had snelling and i guarantee you that he is respected if not admired by all.
Why don't you try teaching the use of force to corporation counsel, command staff, and disgruntled/know it all police officers before you challenge his promotion?
you wouldn't want his job even if you had weekends off and on days.
Pretty dumb arguements over who is the real police and who is not and which district is tougher and who is assigned to the 2nd watch etc. Life is just not always fair. Things have always been this way and I do not see it changing anytime soon. Your wasting energy!!
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know where the driver/merit Sgt. was sent to?
9/20/2010 06:11:00 AM
He ended up in 15 third watch...what is your point? Goldsmith has never been the type of guy to expect special treatment. Someone finally noticed his talent and he is damned by association.
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