Officers Shot (UPDATES)
- 12:13 am -- 2 Chicago police officers have been shot. Reportedly, one officer was shot in the stomach and the other was shot in the arm. The shooting occurred at an address near 7700 South Seeley.
A shooter was cornered at 7701 S Hoyne. Police have surrounded the home. From what I am told, there are several people inside the home, including two elderly people.
Both officers were taken to Christ Medical Center.
At 12:29 am, police were able to enter the home at 7701 S. Hoyne. 4 to 5 people were taken into custody.
Godspeed Officers. Updates as available.
UPDATE: Sun Times and Tribune reporting wounds are not life threatening.
UPDATE: A couple of comments saying that after the "10-1" was called, no one showed up for 5 minutes? We understand we're shorthanded, but "10-1" means you leave the paper job, leave the "baby-momma-drama," leave the TVB at the desk, leave lunch or whatever and get to the scene. Can anyone update us on what happened? How many cars was 006 unmanned? What were the backlogged jobs?
UPDATE: Sun Times and Tribune reporting wounds are not life threatening.
UPDATE: A couple of comments saying that after the "10-1" was called, no one showed up for 5 minutes? We understand we're shorthanded, but "10-1" means you leave the paper job, leave the "baby-momma-drama," leave the TVB at the desk, leave lunch or whatever and get to the scene. Can anyone update us on what happened? How many cars was 006 unmanned? What were the backlogged jobs?
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posted by SCC at 12:42 AM
137 Comments:
http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/
how about a side bar link?
I wasn't there, but was told by someone on the scene that a 10-1 went out 2 P.O.'s shot. After 5 minutes still no police help on the scene. Daley has an eye on re-election and is trying to keep costs down until he gets another term. Then all taxes will double. Until then, the game he is playing is "victims or votes."
God bless you both Office....
I hope you recover fully and AFTER Christmas.
praying............
Many Prayers sent up.. May they both make a speedy recovery.
Both officers shot in the arm. In good condition at Christ. God was looking out for the good guys tonight.
After the officers were shot, the 006 supervisor on the scene said to the dispatcher,
"We called a 10-1 five minutes ago and no one has shown up!"
Officers, there is not enough manpower on the streets to effectively do our job! Maybe a few one man cars on minutes.
022 was sent cars to assist because there were no cars available in 006 to respond....WTF!!
A tough time for officers all over our country. People just have zero respect for the law anymore. It starts at a young age and children learn that disrespect from their parents. There are a few that manage to stay on the good side, but the bad far out them.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the officers. I hope they make a quick and complete recovery.
PLEASE, you all be safe out there!
Come on guys. Be okay. Please!
Fuck!
Both coppers shot in the arm taken to christ
When we got the call of the 10-1 on zone 6 we were there in less than two minutes.
These comments are bullshit! There were cops there instantly after the 10-1 was called! The sgt who said that was completely exagerating. Most of the cars en route were demande to block traffic for the ambulance and make sure the thru streets were open for the ambo to make a quick exit. And to all you people saying you weren't there and that you heard from someone what happened, go fuck yourself! 006 district did fantastic job tonight and my prayers are with those shot tonight. Be thankful these god was on our side for once!
sounds like these jokers on the south side need a strong talking to or maybe a catered lunch. i wonder if the new guru predicted this????????????
After the officers were shot, the 006 supervisor on the scene said to the dispatcher,
"We called a 10-1 five minutes ago and no one has shown up!"
Officers, there is not enough manpower on the streets to effectively do our job! Maybe a few one man cars on minutes.
022 was sent cars to assist because there were no cars available in 006 to respond....WTF!!
I'm sorry, but this has me pissed off. There is no reason for a 5 minute lag at a 10-1, bullshit!!!
I dont care what the Fu%$# you are on, you drop it and go, don't take for granted that someone else is going. This has nothing to do with manpower. I'll bet there were assholes sitting in the station
F&^%$g off, early for checkoff or at their lunch location listening. I know I've seen it before.
my partner and i were at 63 damen on zone 6 when the "were getting a ticket from zone 8 of a 10-1, officer shot" from 63/damen to the scene, we were one of the first cars there and only cars there for what seemed like at least a few minutes. not blaming officers or dispatchers, but there was definetly a breakdown somewhere. eventually there was a great response, great job by all on scene. god speed officers, enjoy the rest of the year off. be safe everyone!
Get well soon officers.What's the plan of attack now? Mass parkers?This is happening way too often.2 shot..10-1 slow response (due to lack of manpower) what is it gonna take to change things? Obviously the worst possible scenario is a dead P.O. and we all know that does not matter to this city. That beady eyed coward is waving the white flag to the enemy and he has accepted our surrender. I like many of you saw this coming.There is NO FEAR anymore not one bit of it, and I like many of you hold this coward personally responsible for the injured or dead P.O.'s.JODY GET THE FUCK OUT...Be safe everyone
The news should play this up good. J-Fled must resign for the good of humanity.I hope the officers recover well after a long and professional physical therapy. Also the march should do laps around and START at 35th and michigan THEN we march to city hall in unison it could be lots of hell for shity hall. The shorty could fire J-Jag from China and not have to look at his big crying mellon head.
First, thank god the officers are alive, but they still shouldn't have been shot.
Don't know if this is true, but news channel said that six officers were executing the search warrant. Back in the day we were silly enough to do warrants with three or four officers, but times are different.
Don't know circumstances behind obtaining and serving this particular warrant, but some things to think about when formulating plans - time of execution, requesting swat entry on gun warrants, have more officers than you think you need.
You can also request bodies from TRU or MSF as back up. And sadly that has to be done because there are not enough officers assigned to the districts.
As a police spouse I think the families of fallen officers (in past incidents) should sue for wrongful death. The conditions that all of you work in is ridiculous, 6 years ago my husband was in a shooting and there were hundreds of officers on scene within probably 2 minutes. 60 million to stop violence at CPS but nothing for all of you to have more officers to fight the animals ? The shortage of officers is THE WEAPON for the criminals, forget the guns.
Whoever wrote those comments was not on scene.
There were several cars there within a minute or two, and then supervisors (with good intentions) were calling for cars at other locations to block off the route to the hospital for the injured officers. The sergeant who said this on the air was making an exaggerated comment in the heat of the moment, where we all know seconds seem like minutes. All 006 District midnight cars were on scene. I saw maybe 60-80 officers out there total. I thought it was a good response for a chaotic situation.
Thank you god for protecting these officers..Im tired of playing for a honors funeral .. a good friend/officer who has since passed asked a academy class once.."how many of you are willing to give your life for the city?" a few hands went up..and he replied 'wrong"..none of you should give up your life for this place..ever .go home to your families..RIP B.Rawa. LOST IN FILLMORE (still)
Prayers for a complete and speedy recovery...
Cicero PD
My prayers to the 2 Officers shot.
Now, how many cars were ticketed and towed after the incident ? ? ? None ? Oh, that's right, no cars were available in 006 and 022 had to come to the rescue.
Maybe jody needs to have a "tea & cookies" meeting with the south side bangers . . . .
Fervent Prayers that they're going to be ok...
A 10-1 with no help for five minutes?
The Police AND captive tax payers should be screaming for Daley's and j-fled's heads on a spear!
This is ONE prediction coming true... There is no help coming when the Police need it.
There is no timely Police response to be had for the captive tax payers who DESERVE IT!
Crime King is playing chicken with all our lives and it isn't funny in the slightest.
Godspeed and take your time healing Officers.
God save CPD.
God Damn daley & weis to Hell!
Well, after the numerous 10-1 calls that went unanswered, you can bet your ass that we will be out there in full force, ticket books in hand, to give the citizens a show of force, and to show the criminal element that WE are in charge. I have impound forms pre-filled and ready to go!
Both Officers are ok, good news! Best wishes for 100% recovery guys.
I saw more coppers from 7 and 8 than I saw from 6. They all stayed on 79th Street....what the fuck was that about?
Rest easy and be well. (Also, 007? 008? Car 54 where are you? Oh, I forgot--no vehicle and no manpower. I guess you have to do it yourself.)
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/09/shots-fired-on-police-officer-going-to-work.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ChicagoBreakingNews+%28Chicago+Breaking+News%29
Stop wearing the CPD uniform to work without any covering people. Nobody cares or respects you're the police anymore. Take all the FOP medallions off your cars and hat bands off your rear-view mirror, it only makes you look like a tool. Glad the PO was unharmed.
6th district were the last ones to show. 7 had the scene under control with help from many outside districts and units and swat came too little too late
These must be the same clowns involved in 79th & Western Bus shoot-up a few weeks ago.
Mayor and Supt. Gang Summit should be sent a note that St. Rita HS is within range of these gang-banging citizens.
Hey Mang...
I hope you two recover fully and come back to work when your ready.
If Scotty and Danny didn't get anything out of theirs, don't think you will either.
Come on! A 10-1 and nobody comes to help???? Didn't the dispatcher put it on the citywide?
How about no mire police work until the dangerous manpower needs are taken care of! Paper jobs only!!!
I'm sick of going to PO's funerals already under this corrupt dictatorship and clout moron bosses!
Thank God the officers are OK.
A department spokesperson said one officer was struck in the arm, the other was struck in the arm and leg. Both were treated and released from Advocate Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn
Daley will present the detectives Medals for 'courageous restraint'
just as Obama has proposed for troops in Afghanistan.
In a separate incident this morning, Chicago police said a female officer was shot at as she drove her own car to work at Belmont District headquarters.
Bullets hit the officer's car, but she was not hurt. There is no word yet on the search for a suspect in that incident.
022 and 008 flew over there; 006 was busy, I guess.
Prayers for the officers.
I heard the same thing in 003 last week. Several units arrived on the scene and caught a guy with a gun around 71st & Indiana. A short while later, a car received a call of a disturbance involving 20 teenaged girls fighting with knives. A car on the scene of that disturbance called for assisting units. NO ONE RESPONDED. Finally, after about three minutes, a Sgt. on the scene where the offender was arrested with a gun informed the dispatcher that only one car from 003 was going into the station on the arrest (assisting TRU), and that all of the other cars were 'free and clear to respond to the disturbance call." Only after the Sgt. said this on the air did other cars answer up that they were responding to the disturbance. It was disturbing to hear this on the air. I assumed that officers were at least BACKING EACH OTHER UP on calls, but this doesn't seem to be the case, does it? It's just what many of us feared, that many of our comrades on the street are using the whole 'discontent with Jody' thing to hide and do little or nothing, even at the expense of their co-workers, and that is just shameful. Hopefully, more supervisors on the street are paying attention to this and will step up and clear the bums over the air so that the workload can be shared more evenly, which might even protect some of us from needless injury due to lack of backup on the hot calls.
Our prayers are with the officers involved.
OT but necessary: ALD. FIORETI,ALD. MUNOZ where on fox news this morning at 8:30. ALD. MUNOZ finally admitted that CPD is down more than 2,200 P.O.'s and that the Aldermen signed off on a budget for the authorized strength(would not say how many P.O.'s).They don't undertand why the Mayor has not hired the correct amount of P.O.'s,went on to say that because of the constant turnover of P.O.'s that retire,why has the Mayor not maintained the budgeted amount of P.O.'s. Wants the Mayor to restart the hiring process. The interview lasted about 5 or 6 minutes. The anchor's continued to press ALD. FIORETI for answer to the question that continues the to make the rounds: Will he run for Mayor,he kept evading the question. Things are starting to get a little interesting.
Another shooting at police. And this time she was on her way to work.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/09/shots-fired-on-police-officer-going-to-work.html
Stay alert and stay safe.
In regards to the comment of blogger 9/101/2010 02:01 AM. ALD. FIORETI on fox news this morning stated that he talked to one of the citizens last night and that they told him the gangs are recruiting kids as young as eight yrs. Mr. Mayor beware word is starting to get around about how bad things really are and that you will be held accountable so if you plan on runing again you had better improve things or else,the heat that will be thrust upon you may cause a mental breakdown,oohh i forgot he's already mental.
ANOTHER INCIDENT_ OFFICER NOT HURT:
Shots fired on police officer going to work
September 1, 2010 8:04 AM | 1 Comment
A Chicago police officer driving her own car to work this morning was shot at by someone in a passing vehicle, police said.
Bullets hit the officer's car but she was uninjured.
The shooting took place about 4:25 a.m. in the 3200 block of West Belmont Avenue, approximately a mile from the Belmont District headquarters where she was headed, said Chicago Police News Affairs Officer Laura Kubiak.
A description of the assailant's vehicle was not immediately available.
Anonymous said...
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****** This just in ******
Donahue met with Mayor and discussed Protest march. Daley asked for it not to be around city hall. They agree to have it at 35th street, this way Daley can dodge most media and JFled has to do all the media interviews. Daley will be in Michigan vacation home Sept 15th through the 17th and then leaves for China so they agree the 15th will be the march date when Daley is out of town and won't have to comment on it.
Daley hints that on Sept 20th(while Daley is in China and won't have to comment on it)
J-Fled may take a new role as head of OEMC and if the contract can be worked out he may even make the move on the 17th. Donahue states that the march will be called off if that occurs.
Daley hints that he may run again for mayor and hints that Donahue may have a spot in the new regime. Daley asks for support the next few months. Donahue asks for more police and Daley gets angry and changes subject.
Donahue asks for 2 Detective classes to start in Dec. or Jan. and Daley agrees but may have to wait til Feb. in hopes of more Stimulus money or Dept Homeland Defense money.
Donahue brings up Merit promotions and Daley ends meeting. They pick a date in Oct. to meet again.
If this BS is true I say F it we walk city Hall. More people will see us and more people can attend since there is more parking options and public transportation options.
If you want to fall in line and be a sheep for the mayor and the weak FOP go to Headquarters where no one will see you and the people who do don't give a shit.
BUT if you are truly tried of
• Having a backlog before you even step in your car
• Driving 99 during midnights
• NOT HAVING BACK UP ON A 10-1
• Having shit equipment
• No Dt or Sarge test in years
• Stupid Event number missions
• etc etc could be here all day
Why would you appease Daley he stabs us in the back any chance he gets. I say wait till he comes back from China and then we march city hall 35th and Michigan has no power or coverage.
STOP BEING SHEEP FOP WORKING FOR THE WOLF!
Its not just man power issues and its not only on the southside. Call for help anywhere and watch no one come.
SCC can you please post about the female P/O who works in Area 3 who was shot at in the 3200 block of Belmont this morning around 4:25AM in her POV?
officer okay w/ bullet holes in her car, offenders (J)fled
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/09/shots-fired-on-police-officer-going-to-work.html
Lack of manpower as well as lack of working coppers in 006 midnights is the reason for that.
Coppers from 004, 007, 008 & 022 responded automatically when the "10-1 officer shot" was broadcast, no matter how many cars from 006 were responding. 006 was in a backlog as usual, so not sure how many cars were tied up on priority 1A jobs like domestics, when the 10-1 was broadcast. There was also some confusion at the scene with ALL the squads that responded(approx 50 plus), with the 006 Dist supervisors giving directions to cordon off the area around the house where the search warrant was being executed, and where the injured officers were relocated. The armed offenders were still inside the house, possibly barricaded and very much a threat and the injured officers needed treatment away from this threat. Not sure if the local ambulances were busy on runs but there was a slow or confused response by CFD. A 006 Dist sergeant drove both injured officers to Christ after waiting for ambulances to arrive. Both officers were in good condition with one gun shot wound each, in their arm. Overall it was a GREAT response by the First Watch officers from all the surrounding Districts, given the manpower shortages and someone else maybe able to explain what happened with the CFD response. I would never claim that the CFD responded slowly to an officer shot call, therefore, it must be some other factor(s). God was looking out for the two injured officers.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/09/shots-fired-on-police-officer-going-to-work.html
God Bless the injured officers
may they have a quick recovery
JFLED and mr mayor
where were all the cars , supervisors , special units
fop demand to see GPS on every car
working in 6 at time 10-1 was called , that includes all this special units that are supposed to back up the patrol division
heads have to roll on this bs
hope the shooter was removed in a body bag
how about another meeting with the gang leaders jfled
these thugs only understand violence
I responded with my team from the 7th Dis. The 006 Sgt on the scene asked for cars to respond without lights and sirens. The Sgt didn't know the amount of cars that had arrived and had surrounded the house on all sides because the cars arrived in silent. So cars responded in less than a minute. So a lot of cars responded.
0013hrs all the TRU , MSF and other units should have been on the street
where are they , no supervision
our officers lives re on the line
mayor daly will not be reelcted
in 2011 , how many 1 man units in 6th district , someone get this info to the media
Anybody hear about a female officer shot at on her way to work this morning???
I was there last night, came over after broadcasted over zone 6. "We called a 10-1 five minutes ago" is bullshit.
Flipped over to zone 8 while flying over to the scene and I got to say that 660 screaming over the radio didn't help. I know that in this kind of situation 1 minute feels like 5 but how can you call for more cars to the scene at the same time you are screaming "to cordon off a one mile radius around the house" and telling 22nd district cars to block off a route to Christ.
Telling cars not to come lights and sirens to a 10-1 and screaming for ambulances when the P.O.'s were already on their way to Christ in a sgt's car.
The perimeter of the house should be secure while making the entry in case something like this happens. The entry team falls back to cover and the house is already surrounded, there should be no need for a mile perimeter.
Calling over the air an HBT incident and then trying to the people out of the house yourself.
The fact is that there was a lack of on-scene manangement. You DO NOT call for P.O.'s to rush to a house where there is an active shooter inside. Evident by the fact that there were about 30 P.O.'s standing about 15 feet from the rear windows of the house.
As the on-scene supervisor, everyone is going to take their cue from you.
Glad that both P.O.'s are going to be okay.
Praying for full recovery to both of them. 6th Dist tact Lt.G.E. Did an awsome job on scene.
Was the City so short of ambulances that the officers had to drive the shot officers to Christ Hospital from 77th and Hoyne?
Not judging, just asking!
Another shooting, no hits...
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/09/shots-fired-on-police-officer-going-to-work.html
OT but related:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/09/shots-fired-on-police-officer-going-to-work.html
Be safe out there. We live in interesting times. See you at the march!
I was on the desk one day and a
10-1 came out and i grabbed a set of keys and flew to the scene, and was still able to help out. 10-1 means drop anything and everything and get your ass to that scene! We come before everyone out here. I don't care if you got an arrest in your back seat. Kick them out and get to that scene. That's the way i was taught. What are they teaching these guys now a days?
Godspeed to the officers.
"What were the backlogged jobs?"
006 was in a backlog, but TRU and MSF don't have backlogs...
Welcome to the Moo&Oink Show!!
I don't know how the zones communicate, but i know of two times when a 10-1 was called in 006 and it never went over the air on zone 6 (007 & 008). Both incidents were within 2 blocks of the 7th district/6th district border. Can't blame the dispatchers if they don't know about the situation, but does anyone have any answers on this?
The 006th district is a warzone and no one is excluded. Be careful guys. The back up is atrocious and the bosses are horrible. Be safe out there. I myself was a former 006th district officer. No one gives a shit, why should u!
"A couple of comments saying that after the "10-1" was called, no one showed up for 5 minutes? "
10-1s are broadcasted on the Citywide, incident occurred @ 1230am. Where was MSF, TRU,GEU, AREA SAT TEAMS, GUN TEAMS? THEY DO OPERATE IN THE 006 & NEAR VICINITY RIGHT?
Thank God the PO's are OK.
But seriously:
7701 S. Hoyne.
PIN 20 30 310 0001 0000
2009 taxes paid: $549.51
How much did YOU pay in taxes last year?
Channel 9 News at noon, when they FINALLY aired this story FOURTEEN MINUTES INTO THE BROADCAST, just HAD to mention how "Superintendent Jody Weis sped to the scene upon hearing...".
Too little, too late Jody-Boy and conspiring media whores.
But please be sure to have your cameras rolling at HQ on the 15th of September, though. Or has your master Shortshanks already given the word on how you are to document our rally?
I was at 71 western when the call came out over zone 6 myself and 2 other cars were there in about 2 minutes and converged on the house to join the guys who and served the warrant. The plain clothes Lt on scene immediately took charge which was great to see and the animals were placed in custody and weapons recovered. Everyone did great the response time was so so but the police showed up in bunches eventually. Great job by everyone on scene way to work together to get the bad guys. My only beef would be boys and girls if bullets don't hit and stay in someone they keep going, be mindful of crossfire! If there was a shootout cops would of definitely shot cops. Other than that Gods speed officers. Great job everyone
the response was great ... cars from 03, 07, 08, 022, tru, Midnight tact team A/1, Gang enforcement, Gang investigation, all showed up. The Lt. from 006 was asking cars from 006 to volunteer for specific jobs to do. Supervisors should supervise, "no"?
"I wasn't there, but was told by someone on the scene that a 10-1 went out 2 P.O.'s shot. After 5 minutes still no police help on the scene. Daley has an eye on re-election and is trying to keep costs down until he gets another term. Then all taxes will double. Until then, the game he is playing is 'victims or votes.'"
--9/01/2010 01:06:00 AM
Yeah, they all pull the huge property tax increase after they're elected, but you'd think that chaos in the streets -- it's escalated to the point that a panhandler requested "fifty dolla" the other day -- would mitigate against their re-election.
Can't remember the stats offhand, but the last time Channel 9 ran a telephone poll, Daley's approval rating was extremely poor, 32% or something, an all-time low.
What can you say? Even when the police call the police, no one shows up. Getting to be a giant version of Robbins, Ill.
Failed social experiment.
The ambulance DID NOT arrive on scene until 15 minutes later. it was horrifying to see that occur with the radio transmissions and all begging for an ambulance with officers DOWN. Lt. Evans handled everything great. The 006th District Tact, A/2 Gang team was on scene. AREA two gun team handled the inside perimeter of the house. Those gun guys were on the scene backing up everyone as well as other cops from EVERYWHERE, so there was backup, but everyone parked one block or two away to keep a tight perimeter around the scene. From what we saw, the CPD knows how to back up their own. THE ONLY QUESTION IS WHERE WAS THE AMBULANCE??? SOMEBODY SHOULD CHECK ON WHAT TOOK SO LONG? AREN'T THEY SUPPOSED TO FLY TO CALLS LIKE THIS????? WTF?????
"A shooter was cornered at 7701 S Hoyne..."
How things have changed.
From a large, heavy catalog in my lap --
"Published August 20, 1964 -- copyright 1964. General Biological Supply House, Incorporated, 8200 South Hoyne Avenue, Chicago, llinois 60620.
(photo of dignified building entrance with beautiful landscaping, huge polished stainless steel letters on top, "TURTOX.")
"Since its founding in 1914 by Dr. Morris Miller Wells, the General Biological Supply House, Inc. has grown until its products are now used in schools in nearly all parts of the world..."
Over 1000 pages of microscope slides, charts, models, preserved specimens, anything you could think of for biology. Hundreds of people working there.
All gone now. The company folded up its tent and the people fled the area.
Lost civilization.
Failed social experiment.
they were conducting a search warrant at above location. back door had (3) 2x4's on it. bad guy shot a ak-47 throw the door and skiped off the ram into the meat of (1) po's forearm, treated and released. 2nd po took shrapnel in his arms, released. rest up guys. hey lets be safe out there.
I work in MSF. We are now only allowed to go in a small block radius in a district (thanks to that weather forecast crime prevention guessing unit). We were told under no circumstances are we allowed to leave.
The original idea behind MSF is to give assistance to districts that are in need. I believe that when two officers are shot and the district is scrambling to find people, there is no better time to bring in MSF with an instant 150+ officers.
This job and these bosses have become a discrace. The bosses wouldn't even tell us about the incident until it was over, in fear of us just leaving our assigned "blocks" to help officers in need.
WHAT A FUCKIN JOKE!!!
march needs to be at city hall where daley can take it all in.
thank god the officers are okay. i am sure they were shook up after dealing with the incident. got to say last night there were several neighbors thanking us for doing our job. i guess they had enough of that house too spoiling their nice block. just goes to show you, not everybody is bad. my main point to make on this event is why the ambulance took so long in getting to the scene? in a line from a saturday night live skit. what up with dat? what was up with dat? we know now that the injuries weren't life threatening, but at the scene there was a lot of concern that it could be. i thought the fire department had to respond in a certain time or face major lawsuits? i hope our leaders our checking in this. hearing those radio transmissions as we responded, with the call of where was the ambulance, was bone chilling. it made me hug my kids when i got home in the morning as they got up for breakfast. doing police work, and especially search warrants is and as we know now and always is dangerous work. there seemed to be a lot of cops that responded very well to the 10-1. cause if we don't, who else is?
God bless the officers in their recovery. Was it me or did it seem that it was a LONG time before an ambulance or fire truck was on scene?
officers get well quick
bad dispatching. dispatcher from zone9 did more for the situation then their own zone.
I wasn't there, but was told by someone on the scene that a 10-1 went out 2 P.O.'s shot. After 5 minutes still no police help on the scene. Daley has an eye on re-election and is trying to keep costs down until he gets another term. Then all taxes will double. Until then, the game he is playing is "victims or votes."
9/01/2010 01:06:00 AM
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THis just in:
Brian Goldstein states that location was not predictively analyticized ....
That is all.
Don't jump the gun and assume that when the 10-1 was announced no one went there to help. 006 is very short. Plus it's a large district.
Dear Police Spouse,
I am a police spouse too and I feel the exact same way. This city is putting my husband in harms way and this city would be made an example of if anything ever happened to him on duty.
Thank God those officers are going to be ok.
To the good men and women of the CPD thank you for for putting up with what you do and working in these conditions to protect the rest of us. I couldn't do your job 5 mins.
JFed - yeah. It doesn't look like your garden club style luncheon with gangbangers was that effective. Instead it has made things more volitile for our loved ones.
From reading "J-Fled's" comments I swear he was more concerned that the officer's showed great restraint or as he stated "fire discipline" then the fact our guys were shot!
any word on what the story is on the po who was shot at on way to work at belmont and kedzie???? was car just shot at driving by? did another vehicle shoot? DID THEY KNOW SHE WAS THE POLICE??????? any updates...
Not trying to stir the pot or point fingers but the supervisor at the scene came on Zone 6 and said he called a 10-1 an no one showed up! That is a fact! Maybe there were ara there but not enough but those words were from the supervisor! Pull the tapes
Glad CPD offciers are going to be OK! I pray daily to GOD to keep all of the offciers in his view! It is getting worse, i have attended enough cpd funerals this year the animals will continue to try to KILL us! They we have j-fled bowing down to the gangs, much like barry obama bows to foreign leaders the dumocrats are out of control! PLEASE BACK EACH OTEHR UP, I WORK IN A UNIT DRIVE A MARKED SUV AND ALWAYS MAKE SURE TO BACK UP OTHER COPPERS, NO MATTER WHAT IF ON A TRAFFIC STOP PASS BY AND ASK IF THE COPPERS NEED ANY HELP,1 MAN CAR WITH A STOP STAY AND HELP EVEN IF WAVED OFF UNTIL THAT OFFICER IS SAFELY ON HIS/HER WAY! THE CALLS FROM POOKIE AND THE OTHER WELFARE ASSHATS CAN WAIT WE MUST BE COHESIVE AND HELP EACH OTHER PLEASE!
What happened with the female Officer that was shot at on Belmont? Last night on her way to work?
This is how you gain public support for tax increases if you're a politician.
You let problems get out of control to the point that the public will be willing to do anything.
It's how you win the hearts and minds of the public by using your people as tools for political gains.
The parade of innocent victims will begin soon; the lil' doe-eyed children with media portrayals of their bright futures in spite of the adversity they faced that have been lost, the fallen officers lost, and the wounded hero's all used as political tools to extort tax money
For all of the second guessers and Monday Morning quarterbackers out there...
The reason there was was only 8 PO,s on the warrant...
Becsause that was all of the team that was available due to furloughs, IOD, other reasons
Why no TRU/MSF
Who needs TRU and MSF TRU gets in the way and MSF never goes past 007
More PO,s would have ended up a big mess especially with outside units on different zones on a warrant
Why were pos assigned to traffic and hospital route
Because thats where they were needed and it worked out fine the injured officers got to the hospital quicker because traffic was blocked.
At the end of the incident all of the suspects were in custody 3 weapons including an assault rifle was recovered and the officers got treated and released and are in good shape.
Sounds like the incident was handled well to me, especially with the little manpower and depolicing officers around.
Lets see if the supt. goes after the two gangbangers' leaders for shooting the police. Just like he said on TV.
I am glad the officers are doing okay.
Curious why no shots were fired by the police? and j-goof said the officers had "fire discipline" for not firing in the presence of senior citizens? the presence of senior citizens shouldn't make a difference -- if the seniors get killed by my gunfire when someone is shooting at me, the law says the bad guy gets charged. too bad the bad guy wasn't taken out in a body bag instead of handcuffs.
Be safe.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the officers.......
That said it is time to get on my soap box.
The news this morning reported that the search warrant was for weapons. The news also reported that the intended target was a known gangbanger. Now it is not often that I believe much of what I hear on the news but in this instance I'm thinking the news may have their facts straight. I'm also willing to bet this P.O.S. has some fairly bad criminal history. That said, why are teams in this city executing search warrants like this without using S.W.A.T.? How many of my fellow officers lives am I going to have to mourn??? It's time to put ego's aside and think for a minute. Just about everyone who has ever done a warrant will admit that blastin thru pookie's door is big fun. BUT IT'S NOT WORTH IT!!! I'm not sayin that S.W.A.T. is superior to anyone and I'm not sayin P.O's are dumb. The fact is that they have more training, more equipment, and more manpower to safely execute warrants. And if you are too hardheaded to think about your own safety at least have some concern for the guys you work with and their/your family. Think about being the guy that has to explain to someone's wife/kids/parents why their loved one is dead. Then think about living with that decision for the rest of your life. In my time on C.P.D. 14 officers have lost their lives by being shot. That's not to say a S.W.A.T. officer can't by shot either but the odds are better for them. Ok, I'll get off the soap box now and prepare for the "pussy" comments. But just remember I'm only lookin out for my brothers and sisters in blue.
I wasn't there, but was told by someone on the scene that a 10-1 went out 2 P.O.'s shot. After 5 minutes still no police help on the scene. Daley has an eye on re-election and is trying to keep costs down until he gets another term. Then all taxes will double. Until then, the game he is playing is "victims or votes."
9/01/2010 01:06:00 AM
When did "gotta run" J Fife show up with his new driver, soon to be named merit sgt #3?
just axin
Where's the morale survey results?
Thank God the PO's are OK.
But seriously:
7701 S. Hoyne.
PIN 20 30 310 0001 0000
2009 taxes paid: $549.51
How much did YOU pay in taxes last year?
9/01/2010 12:45:00 PM
Thank you for posting that reality. I'm sure they got their fema money, too.
There were cars from other districts & units there. Don't bash - Just be thankful to all that were on scene.
I don't care who you are or where you work. You are blue & the backup is appreciated!
Did the crystal ball unit predict this shooting?
With 150K a year, no shootings should occur now that we have a computer and a computer geek predicting crime.
From reading "J-Fled's" comments I swear he was more concerned that the officer's showed great restraint or as he stated "fire discipline" then the fact our guys were shot!
9/01/2010 04:27:00 PM
UNF*CKINGBELIEVABLE! See you at the march.
"A couple of comments saying that after the "10-1" was called, no one showed up for 5 minutes? "
10-1s are broadcasted on the Citywide, incident occurred @ 1230am. Where was MSF, TRU,GEU, AREA SAT TEAMS, GUN TEAMS? THEY DO OPERATE IN THE 006 & NEAR VICINITY RIGHT?
- MSF is not deployed to that area per the "Big Boss". Do your research before you post a comment. Probably a dog collecting a check!
just dont shoot back Luv JFLED
We are now only allowed to go in a small block radius in a district (thanks to that weather forecast crime prevention guessing unit).
--For a 10-1 ALL rules go out the window. What could the possibly do to you for responding to that call??
Your spot more important than a PO's life?? I would hate to deal with my conscience on that decision!
Anonymous said...
I work in MSF. We are now only allowed to go in a small block radius in a district (thanks to that weather forecast crime prevention guessing unit). We were told under no circumstances are we allowed to leave.
The original idea behind MSF is to give assistance to districts that are in need. I believe that when two officers are shot and the district is scrambling to find people, there is no better time to bring in MSF with an instant 150+ officers.
This job and these bosses have become a discrace. The bosses wouldn't even tell us about the incident until it was over, in fear of us just leaving our assigned "blocks" to help officers in need.
WHAT A FUCKIN JOKE!!!
9/01/2010 02:36:00 PM
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...and so, why do you stay?
call in the fucking national guard until we get 1,000 officers on the street.
Good luck with foot chases. It seems only two or three cars will show up.
three years or thirty years on this job dead is dead and after the initial outrage of your death is over the only ones who really care is your family and close friends please dont risk your life because the boss is too stupid or lazy to get proper backup on a warrant protect yourself
"The presence of senior citizens shouldn't make a difference -- if the seniors get killed by my gunfire when someone is shooting at me, the law says the bad guy gets charged. Too bad the bad guy wasn't taken out in a body bag instead of handcuffs.
Be safe."
--9/01/2010 08:46:00 PM
If all you care about is your own personal liability, you might be in the clear for just opening up, but it's generally accepted as part of a simple moral code that, in his role as protector, the policeman tries to avoid killing innocent people, even at some risk to himself.
I'm glad the seniors were taken out with their canes, instead of in body bags. The s__thead is all set; he's gonna sit behind steel, on cement with his "peers," braiding hair and shouting, for many, many years while everyone else enjoys their garden or takes a walk around the block to watch the leaves change color.
Good deal.
"Get well quick" to the injured officers; so glad it wasn't worse.
"they were conducting a search warrant at above location. back door had (3) 2x4's on it. bad guy shot a ak-47 throw the door and skiped off the ram into the meat of (1) po's forearm, treated and released. 2nd po took shrapnel in his arms, released. rest up guys. hey lets be safe out there.
--9/01/2010 02:30:00 PM
Whazzat called -- "criminal fortification of a residence?" Toss that in the salad bowl too...along with attempted murder of a P.O., possession of assault weapon by (undoubtedly) a felon...these guys won't be going anywhere for a long time, at least if the State's Attorney's meds are at some sort of equilibrium on the right day...
The man power march is not just for cops! Its for all citizens of chicago. Make it open to the public!
Thank God the PO's are OK.
But seriously:
7701 S. Hoyne.
PIN 20 30 310 0001 0000
2009 taxes paid: $549.51
How much did YOU pay in taxes last year?
9/01/2010 12:45:00 PM
Thank you for posting that reality. I'm sure they got their fema money, too.
9/01/2010 09:23:00 PM
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Nicely done.
I paid about $5K last year in Portage Park, for a rinky-dink little house on a 125x25' lot.
Same police service.
Same fire service.
Same streets and san.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the officers.......
That said it is time to get on my soap box.
The news this morning reported that the search warrant was for weapons. The news also reported that the intended target was a known gangbanger. Now it is not often that I believe much of what I hear on the news but in this instance I'm thinking the news may have their facts straight. I'm also willing to bet this P.O.S. has some fairly bad criminal history. That said, why are teams in this city executing search warrants like this without using S.W.A.T.? How many of my fellow officers lives am I going to have to mourn??? It's time to put ego's aside and think for a minute. Just about everyone who has ever done a warrant will admit that blastin thru pookie's door is big fun. BUT IT'S NOT WORTH IT!!! I'm not sayin that S.W.A.T. is superior to anyone and I'm not sayin P.O's are dumb. The fact is that they have more training, more equipment, and more manpower to safely execute warrants. And if you are too hardheaded to think about your own safety at least have some concern for the guys you work with and their/your family. Think about being the guy that has to explain to someone's wife/kids/parents why their loved one is dead. Then think about living with that decision for the rest of your life. In my time on C.P.D. 14 officers have lost their lives by being shot. That's not to say a S.W.A.T. officer can't by shot either but the odds are better for them. Ok, I'll get off the soap box now and prepare for the "pussy" comments. But just remember I'm only lookin out for my brothers and sisters in blue.
9/01/2010 09:08:00 PM
I second the motion for swat!!!! They do have the man power, tools and more training
You can't rely on the dispatchers to do this as a few are completely incompetent, so do it yourself. Switch over to that zone and let them know. I do it when needed. Then I call the OEMC supervisor (yes, I am a Sgt.) and let them know I had to do it.
Let me try to do this is smartly as possible.
There is a problem going on in Area 2 which is especially evident in 003 and 006. After 3 years of not seeing any PPOs and a lot of the working officers (or officers that would at least back you up) leaving. We are now left with a ton officers who are afraid to leave their car, don't pay attention the radio, don't carry their own workload, won't even look you in the eye and ask "how ya doin'?"
We have a really bad problem going on. There are far too many people afraid of being the police and just never wanted to be the police. And the most unfortunate thing is, there are far too many in the aforementioned district.
Watch and see jw will issue new order that warrants can only be executed between 6am-6pm. Just like the feds.
FYI a few months back swat changed the general order on what search warrants they do. And all depends on who answers the phone over there.
Flipped over to zone 8 while flying over to the scene and I got to say that 660 screaming over the radio didn't help. I know that in this kind of situation 1 minute feels like 5 but how can you call for more cars to the scene at the same time you are screaming "to cordon off a one mile radius around the house" and telling 22nd district cars to block off a route to Christ
How would you react when two of your guys got shot? i heard then oemc broadcast and the supervisors didnt scream at all. I thought he did a great job.
The road was blocked so the officers could get to the hospital uniterrupted. What was wrong with that?
That was a well managed scene. 006 bosses and Po's 9 the ones that showed up) did a great job.
For all of the second guessers and Monday Morning quarterbackers out there...
The reason there was was only 8 PO,s on the warrant...
Becsause that was all of the team that was available due to furloughs, IOD, other reasons
Why no TRU/MSF
Who needs TRU and MSF TRU gets in the way and MSF never goes past 007
More PO,s would have ended up a big mess especially with outside units on different zones on a warrant
Why were pos assigned to traffic and hospital route
Because thats where they were needed and it worked out fine the injured officers got to the hospital quicker because traffic was blocked.
At the end of the incident all of the suspects were in custody 3 weapons including an assault rifle was recovered and the officers got treated and released and are in good shape.
Sounds like the incident was handled well to me, especially with the little manpower and depolicing officers around.
9/01/2010 08:14:00 PM
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I am sorry, but you have a 60 man SWAT that was/is ready and available to execute the entry of that search warrant for you. Your excuse of man power holds no water and the fact that your fellow officers did not die last night, does not make the mission "ok". SWAT is there, trained and equiped to execute these high risk warrants so you can sit back watch the show and reap the rewards of your outstanding police work without getting hurt. In fact a SPECIAL ORDER exists that states you "WILL" contact SWAT to "review" (not necessarily execute) your search warrant if any of the following exist: weapons, violent crimanl history, history of violence against police, fortification, fighting dogs, (i am missing a few things..just look it up) or anything a supevisor feels warrants SWAT's assistance. This is mandated, yet the majority of the department does not follow its own rules! You supervisors who do not call SWAT should be ashamed of yourselves for jeapordizing the lives of your officers for NO REASON! SWAT exists solely to help other policeman, use them!
9/01/2010 09:08:00 PM
Well put.
The execution of search warrants is what a SWAT team is for. Every law enforcement agency in the United States of America utilizes SWAT teams for search warrants.
I work tact/gangs in a ghetto area and we have our own ram, pry bar, bolt cutters, and shield. Without exception, on search warrants, the ballistic shield is left in the office. The ballistic shield is looked at as nothing more than another piece of equipment that is heavy, awkward, and a hinderance to the Chicago Police Officers desire to travel lightly. If it doesn't fit in the officers make shift briefcase of a red prisoner's property bag, it is a burden to bring it on the street.
The deployment of a shield during the execution of a search warrant needs to be a mandatory practice. It provides essential protection for the police officers on the entry team and will save police officer's lives.
It's certain that we are going to see more officers injured and killed if the Chicago Police Department doesn't make it a requirement to utilize the SWAT team for search warrant service when they are available. If the SWAT Team is not available, an entry team deploying a ballistic shield for the search warrant must be utilized.
Officers, please think tactically and don't follow the unfortunate trend of deploying the least amount of equipment that you can. Use the shield on every search warrant. Arm yourself with a rifle on every search warrant. Carry extra pistol magazines on your person while on duty. Carry a Taser if you are certified. Carry pepper spray. Carry a baton. Carry a backup handgun.
Had a SWAT team been utilized to make entry into the residence for the execution of the search warrant, there may have been a different outcome. Had a SWAT team been unavailable and a shield deployed by the tactical officers, there could have been a different outcome.
I have worked with both officers and I am happy that they are going to be okay. They are both good guys and the real police.
Heal up quickly and hope to see you guys back soon!
What really happened: 660 got on the air asking for CFD due to an injured officer while executing a search warrant! Yes you read that correctly, injured officer! It was almost 2 minutes before 660 got on the radio and stated that in fact 2 officers had been shot!! There were cars rolling b/c he did say officers injured, but not shot!!!! Then he gets on the radio demanding all officer with rifles to head to the location because" we going in there." WTF, this was now an HBT incident with 2 PO's shot!!! Leave that tough guy shit at home b/c this job ain't worth it, let SWAT come and do it correctly.
To 9:08 AM. WE are The Chicago Police. This who we are, this is what we do.
I don't ask anyone to whipe my ass after I take a shit.
Seems some of you guys lost that idea, or never had it.
Actually, you sound like Jody's boys when they left Joe A.
I aint no tuff guy(Chicago accent for the English Majors), but I would NEVER leave my partner.
As I have told recruits, God damn right I'm scared, but if we don't do it, who will?
WAS THIS THE HI RISK TEAM?
I THOUGHT THEY WERE DOING ALL THE ENTRYS NOW?
Batman used his ballistic shield and you should too !
I paid about $5K last year in Portage Park, for a rinky-dink little house on a 125x25' lot.
Same police service.
Same fire service.
Same streets and san.
9/01/2010 11:04:00 PM
WRONG---your neighborhood doesn't get even half of the police service or coverage that these ghetto districts receive.
- MSF is not deployed to that area per the "Big Boss". Do your research before you post a comment. Probably a dog collecting a check!
9/01/2010 09:34:00 PM
Ans so you worried about getting yelled at or losing your spot is more important than a fellow officers life?? And don't tell me you didn't hear about it. 10-1's go over citywide, and even though I was off I am confident to say that the 007th District dispatchers put it over Zone 6 due to how close it was to 007 and 008. You are a pussy nothing more...
When I heard that it took 5-minutes for police to respond to a 10-1, I said OMG what has this department come too. I am glad to hear that wasn't the case. Years ago NO call was more important than a 10-1. Supervisor's would hold cars accountable for not responding. This is not the CPD,I knew. It's a shame what Daley has done to this department. What a JOKE... It's also a shame that the FOP has no balls......
My thaughts and prayers go out to those 2 Officers. Stay safe Guys.
A Stone Park Officer
msf can't leave their area of assignment to go on a 10-1
that's bs
they leave all the time for 2 hour lunch at bourbon st
Why hasn't there been anything on the news about these offenders; who they are & what they are being charged with??? Did I miss it somewhere?
FINALLY -
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/09/2-men-charged-in-shooting-of-2-chicago-cops.html
2 men charged in shooting of 2 Chicago cops
No background on them probation? parole? previous weapons charges?
There was an assault rifle, Correct ?!?!
Ballistic shields are not rated for rifle, only pistol bullets.
I am sorry, but you have a 60 man SWAT that was/is ready and available to execute the entry of that search warrant for you. Your excuse of man power holds no water and the fact that your fellow officers did not die last night, does not make the mission "ok". SWAT is there, trained and equiped to execute these high risk warrants so you can sit back watch the show and reap the rewards of your outstanding police work without getting hurt. In fact a SPECIAL ORDER exists that states you "WILL" contact SWAT to "review" (not necessarily execute) your search warrant if any of the following exist: weapons, violent crimanl history, history of violence against police, fortification, fighting dogs, (i am missing a few things..just look it up) or anything a supevisor feels warrants SWAT's assistance. This is mandated, yet the majority of the department does not follow its own rules! You supervisors who do not call SWAT should be ashamed of yourselves for jeapordizing the lives of your officers for NO REASON! SWAT exists solely to help other policeman, use them!
Last time we used SWAT you fucking idiots burned down a house in 005.
Then one of your guys got shot on 79 Peoria a year ago-unnecessarily.
You aint a real SWAT time youre wanna bes and jokes.
Last time we used SWAT you fucking idiots burned down a house in 005.
Then one of your guys got shot on 79 Peoria a year ago-unnecessarily.
You aint a real SWAT time youre wanna bes and jokes.
9/02/2010 11:00:00 PM
The only thing that is real on the police department is you right?
I got news for you guy, the only thing that you are is real turd. Shut the fuck up and quit talking shit about everybody else. Your limp dick writing style is getting old.
Yes you are correct, but you must meet all the buulshit that it requires SWAT to be utilized, then you call RAY RAY so he can make a decision on all of that info has ben met, then you have call everyone,then you talk about it, then you decide if it met all the bullshit requirements, and then you say yes or no, and that took what 3 hours. call Larry and the boys they'll that have that frickin warrant typed and executed within 1 hour.
More Chicago wild, savage animals.
The SWAT Team does have rifle rated shields now. Too Bad no one has any idea what SWAT does
I think a lot of the confusion on the scene was caused by someone(maybe 660) sent CFD to 79th Hoyne. We couldn't get back on the the air to tell CFD we were at 77th Hoyne with the injured P.O.'s because of all the traffic on the air. Someone switched over to citywide zone but it was very crazy. 660 was excited and that's understandable due to the circumstances. Everything was taken care of and a Sgt drove the PO's to the hospital. Everything wasn't perfect but it was handled. If you weren't there stop judging.
I think a lot of the confusion on the scene was caused by someone(maybe 660) sent CFD to 79th Hoyne
Wrong, 660 sent beat cars to block off 79 Hoyne and sent CFD to west 77th- Seeley where the uninjured officers were.
Get your facts straight, 660 and 699 did a great job despite the circumstances.
What made this go south was too many people on too many zones giving out too many directions at once, and OEMC not handling the situation well.
The SWAT Team does have rifle rated shields now. Too Bad no one has any idea what SWAT does
Including SWAT!!!
Stay off the blog, soon to be ex SWAT LT M.
Yes you are correct, but you must meet all the buulshit that it requires SWAT to be utilized, then you call RAY RAY so he can make a decision on all of that info has ben met, then you have call everyone,then you talk about it, then you decide if it met all the bullshit requirements, and then you say yes or no, and that took what 3 hours. call Larry and the boys they'll that have that frickin warrant typed and executed within 1 hour.
9/03/2010 01:58:00 AM
obviously your an idot and have never called SWAT. All it takes is to call the MSF office and ask for SWAT. Give a few details of the warrant (what its for, what kind of history, fortification, dogs, etc..) you do not have give out the address or target info or any specific details. If its high risk its a go! And the team does everything they can to accomodate the needs of the team calling.
Last time we used SWAT you fucking idiots burned down a house in 005.
Then one of your guys got shot on 79 Peoria a year ago-unnecessarily.
You aint a real SWAT time youre wanna bes and jokes.
9/02/2010 11:00:00 PM
another genious! unfortunately shit happens sometimes. Warrant was for an AK-47. Place was fortified and the tact team previously tried to execute warrant and dude would flee to basement with rifle. SWAT did an excelent job making entry on a highly fortified location. Dude was holed up in the basement (most likely with rifle, but now melted). Dude in custody, all occupants safely evacuated during a fluke incident.
Any one not on scene should not say anything. I was there i know for a fact that cars from 004, 005, 007 and 022 got there quickly. the Sgt was screaming to keep the air clear and not to put on lights and sirens. Cars may not have come up on radios but i was taught drop everything you're doing and get there! Pull the GPS and 79th st pod cameras before spreading the wrong information. Glad the PO's are okay
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