March Confirmed
From the FOP site:
UPDATE: Sun Times link.
All members are aware of the dangerously low manpower within the Department that has created unsafe conditions for Chicago Police Officers and Chicago citizens alike.
The Board of Directors of Chicago Lodge #7 voted to stage a march that will take place on Wednesday, September 15, 2010 at 1000 hrs at Chicago Police Headquarters, 3510 S. Michigan Ave. All members are encouraged to attend this march.
Additional information regarding possible parking locations and transportation to and from the march will be released as soon as possible.
A formal press release will be issued by the Lodge.
UPDATE: Sun Times link.
Labels: FOP, info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
141 Comments:
How about having a Deputy Registrar on-site for the march so everyone who shows up can be registered to vote!!!!! Stop talking and start walking!!!!! I'd donate my time to help process the registrations, if allowed to. I'll be there for the march anyway. I'm sure someone out there is a Deputy Registrar and would donate their time for such a worthy cause.
can we carry a piniata of the lil darlings? Bloody bastards
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Donahue met with Mayor and discussed Protest march. Daley asked for it not to be around city hall. They agree to have it at 35th street, this way Daley can dodge most media and JFled has to do all the media interviews. Daley will be in Michigan vacation home Sept 15th through the 17th and then leaves for China so they agree the 15th will be the march date when Daley is out of town and won't have to comment on it.
Daley hints that on Sept 20th(while Daley is in China and won't have to comment on it)
J-Fled may take a new role as head of OEMC and if the contract can be worked out he may even make the move on the 17th. Donahue states that the march will be called off if that occurs.
Daley hints that he may run again for mayor and hints that Donahue may have a spot in the new regime. Daley asks for support the next few months. Donahue asks for more police and Daley gets angry and changes subject.
Donahue asks for 2 Detective classes to start in Dec. or Jan. and Daley agrees but may have to wait til Feb. in hopes of more Stimulus money or Dept Homeland Defense money.
Donahue brings up Merit promotions and Daley ends meeting. They pick a date in Oct. to meet again.
Well the cityhall march really made a difference in Our Contract. No thanks I have better things to do than vailidate Lurch & Co.& be filler for the 10'oclock news.
the last march when the olympic committee was in town was pretty well attended and organized..... we are all we have and if we don't speak up for ourselves, nobody else will--- the mayor has been experimenting with our safety, using us as guinea pigs to see how low the manpower can go and still be effective--- in the mean time peace officers are being killed and injured--- districts are running on skeleton crews and daley has the luxury of a phalanx of people protecting him and his family---- should we all march on 9/15--- you're god damn right we should and you don't have a hair on your ass if you don't show up... if you have something else going on at least take the train in and stomp around for a few hours and then sneak out--- we need a unified voice if we want to draw attention to our problem----
why march at HQ??? as much as i dislike J-fled he does not have the power to hire... city hall seems like the way to go, more exposure, more attention, etc..
Why 3510 S. Michigan? Why not downtown/city hall again? Only high school students, HQ "grunts" and neighborhood residents will see us at 3510......way to go, FOP.
Sorry, not for this right now. Count me out. The timing is not good at all. Can we get back to policing please?
Why is Donahue asking for Daleys input. Grow some balls Mark. I say do it before or after the mayor does his nonsense trip. Either way I wont go.
Anonymous said...
Well the cityhall march really made a difference in Our Contract. No thanks I have better things to do than vailidate Lurch & Co.& be filler for the 10'oclock news.
9/01/2010 02:37:00 AM
Right, like sitting at your computer complaining at 2:37am. Did you go to the porn site before or after SCC?
35th street? Sorry,not good enough.
The march should be at city hall! Tie up traffic downtown. Be seen! Who will see us at 35th? I smell a rat! Who agreed to 35th? I'll be at city hall!
The complaint is more with City Hall than that of HQ. Any proposals for a wildcat march to The Land of ShortShanks?
We need an organized Political Action movement and this is an opportune time to bring out our Supporters (candidates ) if we direct our concerns at City Hall.
the march should be at city hall. city hall decides how many police to hire. as much as we hate JFLED its not his fault police are not being hired. it's the mayor's and city council's decision to not hire people. march needs to be downtown.
This is absurd! Why are we marching around our own building? It should be at city hall cause that's where the jackass who is responsible for the shortage is. I'm so tired of the fop and their bullshit. The boys down there need to grow a set. Donahue doesn't give a shit. He is on his way out. Maybe they should detail some of the fat bears from fop to the street like the inside people. Maybe then they will take notice.
March should start at 35th st. then go thousands strong and pick up steam along the way to city hall. Just saying. That is a march not in circles around an insignifigant place like the Bigtop.
Screw FLOP and Markie BOY who's marching US! Lets go to City Hall!
Call FOP tell them you want to march at CITY HALL! Don't let King Shortshanks dicitate to us where we march!
The selection of 3510 has shortshanks fingerprints all over it...
THE MARCH SHOULD BE AT CITY HALL!
PERIOD!
This is exactly what happens when so called union representation has been co-opted and corrupted by the power structure. In this case, they don't even give the courtesy of even trying to hide it and anyone who mentions it or demands explaination, (with all justification) the one asking the question is shouted down.
We just can't understand how our union representatives can live with themselves knowing they sold out the membership for their own personal gain.
Another opportunity to land a solid blow, breaking the teeth and jaws of Daley Inc. is passed up.
Weren't you Policemen once upon a time? Didn't you have disdain for thieves and liars? What happened to you all?
Craven.
Cowardly.
Immoral.
Traitorous.
Selfish in the extreme.
Conduct non-representative of brotherhood, support and goodwill.
We all come into this life to leave it eventually...
Whatever favors, promises or payments given to you by that evil little half man named Daley will decay with you.
Heaven or Hell, it'll benefit you nothing.
Tragic when men barter self respect, a good name and dignity for coin.
See you at the march... Where ever it may end up being.
Slam and flame if you want to... You know it's true.
Donahue met with Mayor and discussed Protest march. Daley asked for it not to be around city hall. They agree to have it at 35th street, this way Daley can dodge most media and JFled has to do all the media interviews. Daley will be in Michigan vacation home Sept 15th through the 17th and then leaves for China so they agree the 15th will be the march date when Daley is out of town and won't have to comment on it.
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Um, maybe I am missing the point, but I would think that any march should be held exactly when and where Daley DOESN't want it. What do the rank and file care if he gets embarassed?
This is dumb! The march on City Hall was groundswell after 2 1/2w/out a contract. This is something suddenly cooked up by the FOP and at 35th ST? Will everyone jump on the El to 35th like we did downtown? Try parking around 35th. Are we only marching about manpower and J-Fled? I will be there but this seems really dumb.
Why HQ? The Superintendent has nothing to do with hiring. FOP is weak and scared to make a real statement by marching where the real decision makers are. BS.
So the march gets watered down. The sup gets a new contract. Donohue gets a new job. We MAYBE get a couple more detectives. I don't see what's great for po's in this. Everyone else gets megabucks and we get very little. I'm staying home.
Well the cityhall march really made a difference in Our Contract. No thanks I have better things to do than vailidate Lurch & Co.& be filler for the 10'oclock news.
9/01/2010 02:37:00 AM
Then don't bitch, muthafucka.
DUMP weis & Hire the POLICE ! He has got to go! God Bless our officer's!
It's all bullshit, everyone show up @ city hall on the 13th or 14th and march there before Daley ducks out of town, that slimey little turd thinks he's slick.
--- districts are running on skeleton crews and daley has the luxury of a phalanx of people protecting him and his family----
Not phalanx, broheem. In J-Fled, King Dick the Two has the luxury of a protective phallus.
I don't think headquarters is the way to go on this.
I think we would be far more effective if we marched on City Hall.
Here's a better idea....March at his pad in Michigan. National news.
I know for a fact that during our city hall march Daley was shaken. City Hall sources states "oh, he heard you guys loud and clear.". Then some genius said see how many Department members are registered voters. They checked the registration rolls and Daley said "fuck 'em.". That's the truth guys. We were not a threat to him because we are not a registered voting block.
I support but cant make it to 35th headquarters nowhere to park can take Ltrain to the Loop though
This is why no one will ever take us seriously!! Fucking pathetic
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If this BS is true I say F it we walk city Hall. More people will see us and more people can attend since there is more parking options and public transportation options.
If you want to fall in line and be a sheep for the mayor and the weak FOP go to Headquarters where no one will see you and the people who do don't give a shit.
BUT if you are truly tried of
• Having a backlog before you even step in your car
• Driving 99 during midnights
• NOT HAVING BACK UP ON A 10-1
• Having shit equipment
• No Dt or Sarge test in years
• Stupid Event number missions
• etc etc could be here all day
Why would you appease Daley he stabs us in the back any chance he gets. I say wait till he comes back from China and then we march city hall 35th and Michigan has no power or coverage.
STOP BEING SHEEP FOP WORKING FOR THE WOLF!
Let FOP march at 35th street the rest of us should go to city hall.
EMAIL SENT TO FOP LETS SEE WHAT THEY SAY:
Good morning,
I am emailing you because I believe that a march at Headquarters would truly not draw as much media attention and support as it would if we where downtown in city hall.
Here are some reasons:
1. There are people from all of the city there you will diffenity have more people who can see the march then at 35th and Michigan.
2. There is a lot more parking options so that P.O. can car pool and there is more pubic transportation options for people as well.
3. What good will it do at Headquarters they make decision, but they cant fire Weis. Daley is the only who has destroyed this once fine department.
We all know Weis is on his way out so why not take it to the main guy? Make Daley answer to the march not Weis.
I am telling all my brothers and sister to not attend this "pony show" march because when it comes to the lives and safety of my brothers and sisters we are not going to get our point across by appeasing the man would has back stabbed us every chance you make.
Let is be said that if you make deals with the devil you will get burned.
TRIED P.O.
I find it interesting that FOP is planning a march is support of hiring additional officers. I have contacted them on multiple occasions to discuss the fact that TIF dollars could be used to put 1000 new officers on the street (as opposed to 100 as the Mayor has suggested), and I have never gotten as much as a phone call in return.
To the members of the force. Keep up the great work. The people of Chicago are lucky to have you 24/7/365.
I think Daley is using us as pawns. This could be his excuse to get rid of Weiss. He will be gone in February anyway.
I hope something useful comes out of this.
I was at the last march and plan to be at this one. We need to be united.
Is is not about our contract. The contract is done. It is about manpower, officer safety, moral and the protection of our city in which we all live.
Unites we stand together we fall....
Together we can....
I'm just an concerned citizen and have no police experience but, I feel if the rumors are true, Donohue does not have the BEST interest of the dept in mind. He has become complacent in the needs of the dept. I say march on city hall while the mayor is IN town so he must explain his lack of response for the safety of civilians as well as police officers. Our dept and union need fresh blood. Get rid of these old political dinosaurs. STAY SAFE AND BE ALERT.
As has already been stated “why march on HQ and not City Hall?” City Hall runs this department not anybody at 35th and Michigan. Sounds like there might be more to 9/01/2010 01:22:00 AM post then just rumors!
We need to march around city hall. Not 35&Michigan. It will be useless to march around 35!!! To hire more officers we need an OK from king DALEY not J-PUD/FLED/FED.
The protest has to be at City Hall.
All sorts of people roam the area: international tourists, visiting midwesterners, suburbanites, city workers that live all over Chicago, news people, business executives, and elected officials.
The protest also needs to be done while the mayor is in City Hall, not out of town.
Exposure is the key. Someone walking around downtown with a video capable device is going to remember the event - after recording it - and later tell others of what they saw.
Fuck the FOP. They are and have always been in the Daley Crime Family's pocket.
City hall is the place for the march. Who would see it at 35th
& Michica. Assorted neighborhood junkies and house mice! Put the crook Daley's feet to the fire! March when he's in Chicago, not China!
at 35th street? WHEN THE MAYOR IS IN CHINA???? What a fucking joke! What does police headquarters have to do with hiring more police??? WE NEED TO EMBARRASS DALEY, NOT JUST GET CAMERA TIME! Something stinks here...what better time than right before election to do this, AT CITY HALL, WHILE THE MAYOR IS IN TOWN!!! Anyone from FLOP care to address this? I say Mike Shields leads a different march AT CITY HALL RIGHT BEFORE ELECTION WHEN THE MAYOR IS IN TOWN!!! if its at 35th Im not going
March at City hall while daley is still in town! Why is Donahue accommodating daley? After all this dept. is run by daley, not weis. Let daley respond to media.
"Donahue brings up Merit promotions and Daley ends meeting. They pick a date in Oct. to meet again.
9/01/2010 01:22:00 AM"
and all of this is a surprise to no one.
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
why march at HQ??? as much as i dislike J-fled he does not have the power to hire... city hall seems like the way to go, more exposure, more attention, etc..
9/01/2010 03:17:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why 3510 S. Michigan? Why not downtown/city hall again? Only high school students, HQ "grunts" and neighborhood residents will see us at 3510......way to go, FOP.
9/01/2010 04:27:00 AM"
see the above post at 9/01/2010 01:22:00 AM
timing is everything.
City Hall, when Shortshanks is there. What the hell does it take for the FOP to understand?
Even the students protesting Immigration reform in Arizona regularly protest around City Hall and the Daley Center!
Otherwise you don't get noticed!
I bet Donahue knows this protest will never materialize and is trying to look like a tough guy to his union peons!
will this backfire on us? I think we had a great turnout for the contract march and I think that left us with a bad taste in our mouths. I for one WILL be there to march as I hope all of our brothers and sisters in blue will be as well. WE MAY ALL HATE DALEY AND WEIS BUT WE NEED TO SHOW THAT WE ARE ALL UNTIED AGAINS THEM> SHOW UP PLEASE!!!!!!!!
237am, we all know it will not make a fucking difference but if we do a march and none of us show up we look WEAK as a group and that is EXACTLY what Daley and his people want. Grow the fuck up and get out there. Even if we dont get more police we have to show the city that we as a group are united. Although honestly over the past 10yrs i wonder if thats truly the case
just read that its at 35th. FUCK donahue and his boys. I would go ONLY if it were at city hall
There is absolutely no room to "march" around headquarters, the layout was designed to protect the building to some extent and because of that to march around it, you have to march around the entire parking lot and over to State via 36th. There is no room to assemble for any type of rally or speeches.
Move it to City Hall/Daley Center again or this will fail. I have heard many say they will not bother to go to Headquarters, and I am among them despite having been at the city hall march.
Can someone simply ask Donahue or any other FOP Board Memeber WHY CPD HQ is a better location that City Hall.
There can be no justifiable answer except it will serve the FOP's secret and hidden agendas!
"Why 3510 S. Michigan? Why not downtown/city hall again?"
Just because the FOP says to march at 35th does it mean you have to? Screw em!!
Do the damn thing!! Go on and march at City Hall!!
FIRE J-FED AND THE FOP!!! What has the FOP done, except screw us. Now they are trying to have a march at headquarters to act tough. Who is gonna see that execpt the people eating at chruches chicken across the street, and the desk jockies at HQ. What purpose does this meeting serve?? sounds like a waist of time
Just saw top cromagnon cop giving press conference wearing our uniform. Our CPD cap that he was wearing on his overinflated blockhead was tilted to the right. Don't know if he was saying whats up or if his mammoth size forehead was to blame.
WHY THAT DATE?
WHY HQ?
IT SHOULD BE WHEN THE COUNCIL IS IN FULL SESSION!
THEY SHOULD INVITE THE WANNA BE FUTURE MAYORS TO SPEAK.
HEADQUARTERS IS JUST A BIG PARKING LOT WHAT WOULD BE THE POINT SO OTHER POLICE CAN SEE US.
SOMEONE NEED TO CHANGE THE DATE AND LOCATION FAST IT MAKE NO SENSE!
Join us Lt. Andrews
This should be at City Hall not 35th. The working class citizens of Chicago need to see and hear us not the people leaving church's chicken and mcdonalnds...
MOVE IT TO CITY HALL COME ON GUY'S
Hey Donahue, this idea is a complete joke. I will not march around headquarters, for what? That isnt gonna accomplish anything. Talk to me when you plan this thing downtown, around some decision makers, so were not just putting on a show for a bunch of 35th street piss bums.
Sometimes you just gotta wonder what anybody on this job is thinking anymore. The last march really worked, right? Yep we got a contract right after the old one expired, got more manpower, got legit promotions not meritorious,got great exempt ranks cause the mayor and CPD got religion and actually became legit, etc..... We got shit we will never get shit and the FOP and all you guys with good spots are the reason. 99% of you guys with good spots, you know who you are, would suck Daley's dick on the 6 o'clock news to keep straight days weekends off, or that unmarked you take home or that put in half a day job. So lets be honest and just admit we are and always have been our own worst enemies. Nothing will change go ahead and march. Go march but until the men and women on this job learn to be stand up and stick together, which will never happen, then nothing and I mean nothing will change. Hasn't changed in the over 25 years I've been on and will not change now.
Now go make Andrews your hero but talk to those that actually know the guy and you'd realize he always was and still is only out for John. Gotta go puke now.
sorry. dont think i am going to this march. if it was at City Hall again I would be there. there is nobody in police headquarters that is responsible for hiring police. those people are downtown on the fifth floor. i understand the whole unity thing but lets at least do this march right.
po shot at on way to work, 3200 w belmont. car shot up, po was not hit
The news media will be there. Everyone will see us.
fuck that it goes to city hall, and mayor can suck my ass
Do you want civilians there too? If so, I'd come and bring as many neighbors as I can. Just say the word.
why 35th we may encounter an arrest situation, atleast at city hall it is controlled. walk around it transportation to and from city hall via blue/red/orange line. does it matter donahue picks a date when the mayor and others are off, lets move it up a week and fuck it up, scc has their march on 8 september/ lodge 15 sept.
scc= no confidence/manpower at city hall
how fucking stupid! looks like some fop guys dont want to lose their jobs! lets go march about manpower. at a place where they know about the manpower shortage but can do nothing about it. the more the press hammers the manpower issue, the better it is for us. the more we bitch about it, it just opens it up for never getting a day off for the next three years! why cant this idiot union do anything the smart way?
THIS IS BULLSHIT !
If they can vector our demonstration we will be ineffective.
City hall, like last time but we shoot our own footage for u tube to undermine the main stream propaganda media.
Demonstration zones are the death of liberty.
FOP has lost control of us.
March on City Hall not 35th/Michigan. March where the money and decision makers are not where the flucky sits. Change the location FLOP and I will be there.
35th street has nothing to do with hiring and staffing the CPD. It is all City Hall. Why would the FOP choose headquarters? Sounds fishy to me. Sounds like another sell-out.
I will promoting this big on my blog and radio show.
Rememeber when Oprah took over Michigan Ave with her stupid antics? Yeah. That's where our march should be. Somewhere extremely inconvienent.
35th street?? WTF why not have it in a forest preserve for God sakes!!
9/01/2010 01:22:00 AM...
So? Is the fraternal leadership dropping any semblance of pretending they haven't been corrupted by Daley Inc.?
Crime King grants them "permission" to march at 3510 to "protest" j-fled? Can't Crime King cite irreconcileable differences himself instead of putting coppers in the middle for political cover? (And fop is ok with this? O_o )
Isn't the main object of EVERYONE'S ire the stuttering prick himself?
This is kind of like wanting a divorce but one party is too lazy to get off that ass to file the papers and instead has the crazy uncle to do it.
J-fled IS worthy of being sewn into a sail with a cannon-ball and kicked overboard (and so is shorty) after the S.S. CPD is pulled off the shoals and made fit to sail. One target at a time we reckon.
Does our fraternal leadership raise their hands during a session with Crime King to request a hall pass to go potty?
The very last thing the fraternal leadership should want is for our collective voices to be muted and drowned out in the noise of the Daley Inc. media control and brain-washing apparatus.
Isn't that right gentlemen?
Oh well... FWIW, we think the captive tax paying citizens should march on City Hall on the same day.
They really, REALLY should.
It is unconscionable that shortshanks has gambled with Police and citizen safety. He is as much a Murderer as much as these fools running around pulling triggers for failing to properly staff the Patrol Division to keep the tax paying citizens safe. The resolute non-contributors can and should fend for themselves.
Heh...
"You guys can protest but not too hard."
Does the Policeman have any right to make his voice heard? At all?
"Not phalanx, broheem. In J-Fled, King Dick the Two has the luxury of a protective phallus.
9/01/2010 08:51:00 AM"
sorta like a cod piece made of people?
Just so I'm clear, we are protesting ourselves?
Anonymous said...
--- districts are running on skeleton crews and daley has the luxury of a phalanx of people protecting him and his family----
Not phalanx, broheem. In J-Fled, King Dick the Two has the luxury of a protective phallus.
9/01/2010 08:51:00 AM
Daley has 30 directly,and another 40 indirectly assigned to his private "cal center", and his house 2 fixed cars 1 "roving car 24/7, burke has a total of 15 which includes the hidden ones inside his office, the tresurer stephanie neely the 1 sueing our pension board and mike shields for calling out her corrupt ways of being paid off in her campaign fund for giving "our money" to her friends to invest as they give back to her she has a total of 12!
Why does the city clerk delvalle have no detail? Hmm laski had a fleet of guys but delvalle told the mayor "I don't need bodyguards/valets police belong on the streets I have a license I can drive myself"! Now why do the others have these valets? In these tough times they could be put back into patrol and be paid D-1 pay, why are they all being paid D-3 (sergeants pay) which is pensionable,and costs our pension fund more for these lackeys! HEY MEDIA HERE YOU GO DIG DIG!!
The "Rumor Mill" has a lot of "hints" going back and forth between Daley and FOP.
HINT: RUMOR MILL IS 100% BULLSHIT!
I support but cant make it to 35th headquarters nowhere to park can take Ltrain to the Loop though
This is why no one will ever take us seriously!! Fucking pathetic
-You LUV FLOP TOO!! Enjoy the piss poor planning and off the media mark and out of the public eye march like St.Jude at Soldier Field
Just was on FOP lodge 7's site reading. Interesting on the disability page they have a link for the disabled homeowners exemption. So I read the who qualifies and see if you have a civil service disability you must send in proof of 100% disability. So our people are either 75% or less how does the stupid FOP figure disabled cops can get this. So be careful if you send this in because somebody is gonna catch it eventually.
And this is who is gonna lead the big protest march????????? A bunch of fat misinformed assholes who do absolutely nothing for the dues paying members. Maybe it is time ti wake up and dump these idiots.
Um, maybe I am missing the point, but I would think that any march should be held exactly when and where Daley DOESN't want it
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
AMEN!!! FLOP HAS BE ABSENT AND I WILL NOT SUPPORT A WEAK ATTEMPT TO GET JUSTICE
STOP BEING SHEEP FOP WORKING FOR THE WOLF!
9/01/2010 09:15:00 AM
I agree and I marched the first time around.
You guys can't you see this is just publicty because election time is upon us and FOP wants to make sure their cronies stay in office. YOU cannot be that stupid..NO REASON TO MARCH it promotes Donahue and Company! Why were they not marching and speaking out more for a better contract and what is going on with our pension fund. FUCK THEM and their pulicity stunt.
To the whiney cry baby who want to march at City Hall.
J-Fed has the power to put all of the house mouses and secret special unit people back in beat cars. Since you only have 2 years on you don't know about the Department 20 years ago. We had more cars than we knew what to do with. 3 wagons, and 3 or 4 sector cars in each sector.
J-Fed can beef up patrol and help the lowly district guys and gals.
So FUCK-OFF, piss ant.
March or quit complaining about shit.
Signed: Bob Roman
Anonymous said...
I support but cant make it to 35th headquarters nowhere to park can take Ltrain to the Loop though
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Red Line, Green Line, State Street parking, Michigan Ave Parking, White Sox parking.
Give me a break!!!
No matter where it is held,
there will be a lot of yellow...
POLICE LINE DO NOT CROSS FREE BILL COZZI ribbons....
Maybe the lodge could make up full size crime scene tape ribbons like that.
We need to get this on national media like CNN. CPD on Meltdown, mayor has spent so much on Olympics and beautification that it left the police and citizen safety short. Ex-FBI Chief called coward and hatchetman for the Daley machine by officers and citizens.
Alot of good that last one did, 1 bus from each dist, F*** the FOP.
SCC,
I smell a rat. All of a sudden FOP decides to do something? Only about the manpower issue? At 35th St.?
Stinky, stinky, stinky.
We should demand the march when Daley is in town and it should be around the hall. That's it.
Here's the chant for the day: "DUMP WEIS! HIRE MORE POLICE! DALEY'S GOT TO GO!"
Based on a random survey of 50 police officers, both active and retired, as well as several former media friends of over 30 years, the demonstration should be held outside CITY HALL.
They unanimously agreed that the best venue for the demonstration is CITY HALL, not CPD
Headquarters, 3510 S. Michigan Ave.
With the march two weeks away, F.O.P. has plenty of time to reschedule the march for CITY HALL.
If the "rumor" of a meet between F.O.P. President Mark Donahue and Mayor Daley (as posted by "anonymous" at 1:22 AM) is a fact, Daley is the Antichrist. If Daley requested that the protest be held at CPD HQ, red flags and flashing lights confirm that this would be the last place to protest.
We could cite numerous reasons why the protest be held outside City Hall, most of which are obvious.
Indeed, I defy anyone to articulate rational reason(s) to hold the rally at CPD HQ. There are none.
F.O.P. has also advised me that they will provide placards for the demonstrators. What will the signs read? ("Fire J-Fled/More Police", etc.)
I forwarded an e-mail to Mark Donahue and Greg Bella this morning expressing these concerns.
I will post their response.
I smell a FOP rat. 3510 Michigan makes no sense. The best place to demonstrate against any city in the world is the city hall.
Hang J-Fled in effigy outside City Hall during rally.
FOP insults our intelligence with their headquarters idea. They're in bed with Daley.
City Hall or nowhere.
March @ 35th, carry Daley signs. Inform citizens to show up. They can move it away from city hall, but put the spotlight on Daley with your signs!
Do you want civilians there too? If so, I'd come and bring as many neighbors as I can. Just say the word.
--Yes this about YOU and the citizens that live here that deserve police service & can't get it do to a manpower shortage. Please show up and march with us!
Headquarters is bullshit. This is why FOP must be removed. City Hall, you scammers.
sorry. dont think i am going to this march. if it was at City Hall again I would be there. there is nobody in police headquarters that is responsible for hiring police. those people are downtown on the fifth floor. i understand the whole unity thing but lets at least do this march right.
__No matter where it is, YOU should be there. No wonder why nothing matters in this city, its all about you ... right??? WTF!
Meeting with the Mayor. What happened to the post about a week ago. You heard it hear first Detectives class in Oct and now there supposedly discussing it?
It should be at Shitty Hall. I read the scum times today and shortshanks won't even be in town. nuff said.
I am telling all my brothers and sister to not attend this "pony show" march
--Asshole! No matter what, we need to stand together and be there, like it or not!
The FOP should re-consider and march on city hall....that makes the impact and Daley calls the shots, not JFife. JFife answers to the wanna-be cop Masters who is Daley's eyes and ears.
City Hall is the best and the FOP should change the venue.
Wies is done. He will not make the month.
Has the FOP ever thought about pushing for an emergency lateral hiring? The city could save time and money with skipping the whole test...App, interview(s), background, poly/phsyc is all you need...There are ALOT of suburban coppers out there laid off that would probably love to work for the city...send them to the academy for 2-3 weeks to learn the ordinances and theyre FTO ready...Lateral transfers are becoming more and more common with departments that are short and need cops fast...Just an idea..
We have been in a war with Daley for years. Since when do you go to your enemy in a war and ask what time and place would be best for a battle? What'g going to happen if we march around HQ? A bunch of house mice will gawk out the windows and it will end up being the 5th or 6th story on the evening news....if we're lucky. The manpower issue, in my opinion, is more important than the contract issue (not that the contract wasn't important). The contract issue was about our paychecks.....the manpower issue directly affects our safety and our lives. Why are we being pushed off to 35th street for something that is literally a matter of life and death?
So, fop schedules a protest and you bitches dont like the location. Therefore, the whole thing must be a ruse and fop must be in bed with daley. You paranoid psychopaths will come up with any excuse not to leave the home. Gfy, losers.
237am, we all know it will not make a fucking difference but if we do a march and none of us show up we look WEAK as a group and that is EXACTLY what Daley and his people want. Grow the fuck up and get out there. Even if we dont get more police we have to show the city that we as a group are united. Although honestly over the past 10yrs i wonder if thats truly the case
9/01/2010 11:41:00 AM
Marching at 35 will show that we are weak. That is EXACTLY what Daley and his people want he will not be around to answer,
Brother and sister we need to take city hall. 35th is way out of the public eye you want attention so that the Mayor has to answer to his actions.
Good morning
I totally disagree with your assessment of the march on police headquarters. We don't make these decisions without discussing them. This march is about the lack of leadership and manpower that this administration has shown. We are working on parking and transportation by sox park as there is plenty of parking. This will be all over the news as when have the police ever marched on their own headquarters. Weis has been on his way out for over a year. We want to push him out now! I'm sorry that you aren't going to show up, but that's your decision. We are going after Weis on this march. We have six more months to work on the mayor. There is no doubt in my mind that you would be complaining if the union did nothing. But sit home and complain and bad mouth the union instead of coming out and supporting your brother and sisters. Stay Safe
Bill
If they truly get parking and get transportation I will attend, but I feel that city hall is the target.
It's obvious that even though the mayor will be out of town he would prefer us to march at hq instead. Why? Because he doesn't want citizens to think were marching against him, he wants them to think we are marching against weis. It's bs I agree.
If not a lot of people show up doesn't that prove that we're short on officer's?
"So, fop schedules a protest and you bitches dont like the location. Therefore, the whole thing must be a ruse and fop must be in bed with daley. You paranoid psychopaths will come up with any excuse not to leave the home. Gfy, losers.
9/01/2010 10:36:00 PM"
so, may we conclude that you're on board for a march around city hall, on a day when nero is sitting on his throne in his 5th floor whorehouse?
"Why are we being pushed off to 35th street for something that is literally a matter of life and death?
9/01/2010 10:01:00 PM"
why would we let ourselves be 'pushed off to 35th street for something that is a matter of life and death'?
The Gang Bangers are responding tomorrow at 10A.M. I am for real!
"__No matter where it is, YOU should be there. No wonder why nothing matters in this city, its all about you ... right??? WTF!
9/01/2010 09:30:00 PM"
city hall is where daley doesn't want it to be, so, why all this pushing for 35th and Bullshit avenue?
"To the whiney cry baby who want to march at City Hall.
J-Fed has the power to put all of the house mouses and secret special unit people back in beat cars. Since you only have 2 years on you don't know about the Department 20 years ago. We had more cars than we knew what to do with. 3 wagons, and 3 or 4 sector cars in each sector.
J-Fed can beef up patrol and help the lowly district guys and gals.
So FUCK-OFF, piss ant.
March or quit complaining about shit.
Signed: Bob Roman
9/01/2010 07:12:00 PM"
hey, bobby, are you still peddling used hoopties, haven't seen your tv commercial in awhile.
I have a simple question, when the alleged rev. Jessie Jackson, Al, my hair is processed, Sharpton and Father Faker want to garner attention, do they march at their own houses? I didn't think so!
Be safe.
Retired but just thinking....There's really only one jerk-off at 35th st we don't want and the one that put him there is at city hall. Why cut off the snakes tail when the head of the snake is what is killing everyone. When Weis leaves what? Daley put's another Weis in? Daley is what has to go first. Weis could be managed without Daley (but won't need to be because Dwarfy will dump him by sundowndown if another cartoon pops up) Daley is the Demon. If we're marching, and I am taking AmTrak in to march, let's make it count. Just my one cent worth. thanks, old retired chick.
March on City Hall! March while that goof mayor is in town.
Hey, Mark Donahue, this smells like you are trying to really get a good spot when you leave the lodge. Don't be a sell out, Mark.
and I will wear my Reverend Badge. Do you think?
This march needs to be held at City Hall. Period. Shit is out of pocket. Everybody needs to be put on notice-- J-Fled, The Mayor (whether or not he's out of town), the Aldermen, the Judges and Attorneys across the street at Daley Center, and the people across the other street at the State of Illinois building, as well as the people who go to work and visit the loop area.
It is obvious that the dissention amongst officers regarding having the march on 35th Street is effective in terms of what the Mayor, Donahue and people like him want from you. Don't feed into it.
You men and women are the rank and file PAYING members of the FOP and correct me if I'm wrong, but your asses are on the line each and every day with all this BS going on in the streets and in the Department-- not Donahue, not Weis and his minions, not the Mayor-- and it is YOUR protest, and you have the right to do it as YOU see just. YOU call the shots, here not Donahue or the Mayor!!
Pressure needs to be put on Donahue to do the march the right way-- which would be the way the rank and file want it.
God Bless you all, and keep safe
If we show up at City Hall for a march then that kills two birds with one stone. We show the FOP that we have no confidence in their leadership either. Nuff said!
Anonymous said...
So, fop schedules a protest and you bitches dont like the location. Therefore, the whole thing must be a ruse and fop must be in bed with daley. You paranoid psychopaths will come up with any excuse not to leave the home. Gfy, losers.
9/01/2010 10:36:00 PM
Hey Greg start your own blog FLOP losses!
Marching and picketing at 3510 would be the same as the tenants of a 12 unit flat marching and picketing against their absentee landlord while the crack smoking, wet-eyed gump janitor peeks fearfully through the curtains of his basement apartment.
No decisions are made at 3510 that aren't cleared through 111 first.
DALEY IS VULNERABLE! Why has our fraternal leadership failed to press him... HARD?
*crickets*
*empty flamin' hots bag blowing in the breeze*
*dog barking in the distance*
*crickets... the next generation*
What in the world are you guys waiting on?
The membership has needed to strike a blow for years to break the rotten teeth of political influence and the only weapon you've dared to strike with is a down pillow.
Our lives and safety ARE AT STAKE and yet our fraternal leaders insist on coddling and playing patty-cake with a mayor who is no better than these dogs we deal with on the street.
Why not march at Gold Star Park so we can hide like St. Jude. I bet the mayor would love you for that Mark. Better yet let's march around opperation push or St. Sabinas and sing Kumbya.
city hall is where daley doesn't want it to be, so, why all this pushing for 35th and Bullshit avenue?
--Who cares, Just Do it and stand together for once. Strength in #'s. I agree city hall would be a better place but oh well, guess I'm going to 35th
My 24 plus year on the job crystal ball prediction :
I'm viewing in the cut glass he will put Huberman in the supe spot This will cause morale to be flushed out into the Chicago River.
DO NOT TRUST DALEY.
We need more patrol officers
more sgts
more dics
NOT MORE 4 -Year wonder chiefs.
Get rid of them all. Leave Hubberman with the schools, he's and idiot, too.
SCC,
Why are you trying to wreck the march?
You know better.
Coppers can't even agree on a location !
you are at war!
do you let the enemy decide when and where you attack?
use the elements of time, location, and numbers to assist your cause.
unite before it's too late to organize.
there's no need to "rush" , if the location can't be agreed upon wait until there is 100% support.
yes, city hall is the best target and on a day when the mayor is in town.
The FOP current leadership is under control of Daley. I'ts all about ME and not us. FOP should be looking at the current ccity budget and finding out is budgeting was approved to support the department of 9,000+. If so were is the money going? If FOP is not doing their jobs, then it maybe time to hit them with a FAILURE TO REPRESENT lawsuit...
Daley will be in China visiting our money during this!
LET'S MARCH IN TENAMIN SQUARE!
WE CAN STAND IN FRONT OF THE TANKS!
(Needed to lighten up, but I would love it if reporters there would ask Shorty why are you here when your police department is in a meltdown stage.)
totally disagree with your assessment of the march on police headquarters. We don't make these decisions without discussing them. This march is about the lack of leadership and manpower that this administration has shown.
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either i'm missing the sarcasm (possible), or your a fop moron who thinks we are all fucking stupid. this 35th street march is beyond stupid! your a fucking sellout you piece of shit and we are all sick of you. enjoy your time in office while it last you job-trying to save-contract fucking up-dickhead
fuck you brother bill and brother mark and brother rich too!
I have a simple question, when the alleged rev. Jessie Jackson, Al, my hair is processed, Sharpton and Father Faker want to garner attention, do they march at their own houses? I didn't think so!
Be safe.
9/01/2010 11:53:00 PM
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100% Agreed!!! WTF! Why don't we protest in my back yard? I'll cook some burgers on the grill and we can all walk around in a circle and not be noticed sound like a good plan?!?!? Essentially that is what FLOP is doing to us...hey yeah let's march in our own backyard that will get a ton of attention. What a joke you are FLOP!!
Great. When you're done with the march, can ya march right over to Plush on Madison Street and keep an eye on that? Would like to not have a repeat shooting outside that joint if at all possible.
Wow. All of you bitching and moaning are a bunch of crying, whining babies with no balls. "I can't drive," "I can't take the el," "I can't get on a bus," to go walk around 35th street.
Have some balls and stand up for something. Show up or don't bitch about anything in the future.
Typical of some of my fellow police officers. No wonder why we never get anything because it's easier to complain than stand together and do something.
Show up. Show Jody that we are united.
One of our own, Bill Cozzi, sits in a tiny cell in a federal prison all depressed and lonely far from home and you assholes complain about a location that's too inconvenient for you? He's braver than you cry babies can ever hope to be. He would break out of that place to be there if he could.
I will march no matter where it's at and when I'm marching, I'll also be marching for Bill.
SCC,
Why are you trying to wreck the march?
You know better.
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Are you fucking blind or stupid? Either way, you're obviously an Asshat.
"Don't be a sell out, Mark.
9/02/2010 01:31:00 AM"
too late.
that horse left the barn years ago.
Who's to Blame:
First off; I have to give credit where credit is due.....
A Sgt. on our watch made mention that the up and coming “protest march” that is to take place at 3510 S. Michigan on 15 Sept. at 1000 hrs. regarding the “Manpower Shortage” needs to be redirected. That is to say, a change of venue needs to occur.
The best location for such a march is City Hall, right in the Mayors “Front Yard”. There you will find media trucks parked half way around the building at any given time. The normal foot traffic that would usually take place around City Hall would be interrupted. Literally thousands of on-lookers would be present for the display where as the vast majority of on-lookers at 3510 S. Michigan will be the “Brass” and those clout heavy P.O.'s showing up for work who would never dare to get involved, especially in front of the building where they work. I envision many of the top Brass being instructed to take digital photographs from their private offices showing as many faces in the crowd as possible...
Whether I agree with our current police administration is totally irrelevant. The Superintendent has nothing to say about how many officers are hired. The reality is that Personnel Dept. for the City of Chicago directed by the Mayor and possibly the City Council thru budget constraints are where the problem lies. The Mayor has money for those projects that he deems necessary; and the safety of the citizens of Chicago are not one of those priorities.
He called you a MarchWrecker dude. Where I come from thems fightin' words. Call him out man. signed, John Phillips Sousa
Right on brother. signed, The Music Man
Deputy Registrar???? OK, who is currently on the medical for OCD that is willing to spend countless hours of useless time, energy, and paperwork on never to be used minutae? Any takers? Contact JFeds cat. See the first post. Thank you.
Daley asked that it specifically not be around city hall just in case that rascal nephew of his who says he didn't do anything shady with over 50 million dollars of our pension money that he has yet to return, pulls up That dang Maybach again with all those Escalade bodyguards. Dammit all!!! I'm the Mayor! I'm not paying meters!!!!!
Should the march be at city hall? Then show you're the man that your dog thinks you are. Show up. Just show up. Shut up and show up. Case closed. It's just that simple.
The BOX CHEVY PHANTOM said it exactly right. It has gotten so bad, so horribly violent and yet the vile flow of corruption has multipled, and multipled seeming never to stop. Becoming an evil force unto itself. It seems not one but a hundred different reasons for marching against this administration of CITY is beating from the breasts of every officer on here. I am not just marching for myself, to show my rage against this life ruining machine. I am marching for everyone and anyone who can't. They deserve and need a voice. We promised to serve and protect. They need to be protected from this and we know it. Every single one of us who were around long enough to make it out alive and sane know we did it just a little bit less than we were or could have been, because of the promotion we wouldn't pay for or election work we wouldn't do or bosses we wouldn't screw. Well, now it's time everyone knows exactly what you and all you're aldertheives are up to my little pretty. If I were you Weis I'd get back to Boston. This is not gonna actually be pretty.
9/3; 12:27 AM
WTF are you talking about?
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