4,500 Crimes Solved?
Police Supt. Jody Weis on Monday lauded the network of blue light cameras that sit high above Chicago's streets, claiming they've helped solve more than 4,500 crimes since the beginning of the year.
"The police can't be everywhere every minute of the day, so the cameras play a critical role in preventing and solving crime," he said.
Some might question the timing of Monday's press event. Last Friday, the website SecondCityCop, which has been highly critical of Weis and Mayor Richard Daley, blasted the POD cameras as "just another boondoggle that gave the appearance of police coverage."
But Weis said the cameras have been the lead investigator in roughly 24,000 missions, and many involved with their implementation credit the mayor for pushing the surveillance network idea the past 10 years.
But seriously, 24,000 missions? Does this guy even know how missions are run? Anytime someone moves a camera via remote control, they call it a mission and generate a BS number. You get an event number for going to the can for pete's sake. We could claim we get about a billion visitors a day here, and our number would be at least as legit as anything HQ puts out.
Again, cameras provide the illusion of police coverage. The last stat we got from the guys running the video cameras was 30% of the cameras are inoperable, storage is becoming a real issue and the servers are overloaded at two or three times capacity.
And the 4,500 crimes solved? We're talking mostly Class C and Ordinance violations (drinking on the public way, selling loose cigarettes, etc.) along with the assorted street level narcotics arrest.
Nothing that one hundred coppers couldn't have produced making an arrest every third day. And probably cheaper, too.
Labels: department issues, stats
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
65 Comments:
They must be blitzing the mwdia with this load of feces; Channel 2 had something to the effect of "Who says the cameras are working? CPD does."
(so it must be true!)
There was video of a fistfight where an offnder was arrested for battery!
Lol all solved with detectives at the bare minimum!
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Ms. goral of goral realty a cpd family member, is running for Alderamn in the 23rd ward taking on Lipinski protege Zalewski looks like she has a good chance of unseating Zalewski. Zalewski was touting how he kept police cars in the 23rd ward,now the commander of 008 is sending some of these cars from the area that people pay taxes to the east end of 008 where the non taxpayers that deserve lesser service live! Goral is printing up some advertising telling the residents that more police protection is being lost! Looks like Zalewski has a problem now that a female member of a police family is proving how the ward is deteriorating! The ward is looking bad, many empty store fronts, streets dug up all over and not being repaired, now no police with burglaries through the roof!
J-Fled is nothing more than Shortshanks ventriloquism dummy. I bet he even puts him on his knee.
I call BULLSHIT!!!!
I'm a detective in Area 2, the busiest homicide office in the city and I can tell you we are 15 murders ahead of what we had last year at this same time.
I can also tell you that there has NOT BEEN 1 POD CAMERA that has assisted us in identifying a sincgle offender!!!!!
We have had murders and countless shootings occur right under the PODS and they were either pointing in the wrong direction or had no hard drive or were inoperable, so I dont know what "crap" he is trying to feed other than desperation at this point.
Area 2 Detective
EVENT NUMBER PLEASE. THANKS!
4,500 crimes solved? How many are unsolved?
I'd like to hear from some in the Det Div. How many serious crimes have been solved?
ie. "pookie" shoots "ray'ray" and is observed walking toward/away from the Crime Scene.
Not the bullshit nickel-dime dope bag arrest or some drunk takin a hit from his 40oz...
This explains why all the tact Lts. have had a hard on for these pod missions and bs arrests. Smoke and mirrors boys. Smoke and mirrors.
News to me....
Hell I work at the PODS and we have had like only 2 success stories that I know of over the last year and half and both were just assists of the responding units with Dude hiding...
oh well...
Hey put me on the paper though I can use the award toward a meritorious promotion or something!
Hell, I ll take credit for the made up bullshit too...
this is false... they claim a crime is solved when they generate a ticket for it.. eg: (dispatch):"825".... 825 go ahead. (dispatch) 825, pod watchers see a vice in progress at 63 and artesian, several males drinking on the corner.. 825: 10-4 squad. even though that job goes 19p(unfounded) and nobody is arrested it gets filed as a "solved crime". even though no arrests are made its solved because they spotted it happen.. its all a joke. I have to obtain an event number everyday for a "pod mission".. i log on and minimize the window on the computer screen... i then go out on the street and come back an hour later and anything my team has done I put under the "pod mission"...even though the arrests were not even in view of any camera. if a sgt pulls a number for a pod mission then all the arrest his team makes for that night he put under the same event number it also goes as "solved crime"... all smoke and mirrors. take it from a sgt who has to pull event numbers for pod missions 4 days a week... they are a joke and THEY DONT WORK!!!!!!
Love it found out that our wonderful government aka FEMA in my 009th district is giving free money to people who got there houses flooded last month. They are giving them 600 dollar link cards all within 72 hours to have the money in the account. Also they will give you up to $1400 cash guess what for free The kicker they aren't checking the applications they say, and that anyone can apply and get the money. It runs from Monday to next Monday. So today they gave out 1,000 checks and link cards. Man it must be great to not work, and get free stuff from the government. Makes me want to stay home and get free shit!!!
Guess j-fled just justified how much all of those cameras costs...
More lies! I've been on for 14 years and still have never seen a camera used to solve a crime. The only thing I see them used for is the fake POD missions they run in the districts.
hahah, you know whats funny? J-fled actually thinks that this is all true and legit. does he not know that a call from the pod watcher saying somebody is gambling goes as a solved crime? Even if the beat car responds to the call of the gambler and does not find anything the pod watcher marks it as a solved crime. We all know that when a pod mission is going on in the district the tact sergents just put all the arrests that thier team makes that day part of the pod mission...even though the pod has nothing to do with it!!!!! the tact sgts know that if they bosses want pod missions done and they want arrests associated with the pod missions then they just make arrests elsewhere and say they were part of the pod mission... what a joke this whole thing is. ive seen about 4 total arrests in the past 5 years in my district be directly linked to a pod camera. most of them have been drinkers, selling cigarettes, a guy selling weed and a tagger.. I work in 007!!!! of all the things that happen in 007 these are the only things that have been solved by a pod camera! what fkn joke! I really hope the media and citizens are not fooled by this crap. I know at the big media show they had today they provided video of "solved crimes" but I wonder how many total videos they have of arrests???? hmmmmm, I know that in my district there are barely any if zero. dont belive a word of this. these numbers are fudged by the tact teams and desk crews. they are told by the bosses to obtain an event number then just associate already existing arrests with the pod mission thus making the pod mission seem like it accomplished something... cheating at its best.
Why is he pulling B.S. stats out and lying to the press. I think he is bringing discredit to the department by lying.
I'm issuing a challenge to the so called Chicago Media!!!!!! When will you stop giving the Mayor and J-fledorious a the pass? Stop issuing him the softball questions and dig deeper into the many questions asked by the bloggers on this site and the citizens of this city!!!!! Why is morale so low? How were & who directed you to make the sweeping changes at the beginning of you tenure, which resulted in a total cammand restructure? What determines merit promotion? What is the current staffing level of the Chicago Police Department? Exactly, how many policeman are the city short? If the city is bugeted for x amount of police, where is the extra money going since we are obviously not at that level? Why are police resources pulled from a tax base to support a crime ridden area? Don't they deserve equal police protection? If not more?
With police morale in the absolute toilet and a Supt. who said he would leave on his own accord if he felt he were the cause, why is he still here?(look up the interview after (F.O.P. No confidence Vote).
To this day the Chicago Media has given JFled a meritorious pass!!!!
It's time to start sking the hard questions, especially if we want this great city to rerturn to its great stature.....
The police dept has been under a seige, one which our infamous mayor denies. He stated that, even through these tough economic times public safety would not be touched....A BOLD FACE LIE TOLD TO THE CITIZENS OF CHICAGO!!!!!!! While we as the Chicago Police Dept. have not faced layoffs directly, we have hired far less officers thas have retired, by more than 3 to 1....which equals a reverse attrition and the city trying to do more with less while still bugeted for more....Our great nmayor is still charging us for what we should have but haven't in a long while....
So my challenge is to YOU!!!! I know you read the BLOG, use it to your advantage as so called reporters.....
I write this in response to a previous post....I am a 16 year veteran of this department who enjoys his job, but hates everything this jobs turned into
SIGNED,
UNHAPPY
J-Fled is pathetic. He is like a drowning man flailing in the water. What an idiot.
POD Mission = put up 4 different cameras on the desk computer, walk away to take reports, eat lunch, get something for the Sgt, etc, then get 4 event numbers, enter mission in computer and you have 4 documented POD Missions.
Free Cozzi
4500? Absolutely untrue. Prove it. I want to see the case reports. You're a liar, Weis.
ummm, yea ok. squad, let me get an event number for a pod mission.
J-Fled has become very comfortable keeping that big head in daleys ass. has he been trained by the "Iraqi Minister of Information" under Saddam ??? me thinks so !!
EVER HEAR OFFICERS 19-P AS SOON AS THE CALL IS GIVEN OUT FROM THE POD WATCHER CENTRAL? Yes, most the time its done that way. Unless they are coming down to the station to sign the complaints, no one can say they witnessed it to make the arrest. I heard Officers say, send me the Pod Watchers star to put down on the arrest report..... never heard a response... I once had one send a call out to write a ticket, in 007,for a car parked in a driveway, blocking the sidewalk. Don't you think the shootings would be higher on their agenda? 6-Paul!
It's a joke . right ............
With those kind of arrests tact should be using those cameras more often.
They must be talking about those OTHER cameras... you know... the red light ones?
To the more gullible citizens who read this blog and don't know what to b elieve. Here's how a typical "POD Mission" is run. I, as the desk Sgt. in a busy district, am required to run a POD MIssion everyday. I go to the computer, click on the POD logo, select what district and location I want to watch and then click on that and walk away. I let the POD stay on the computer screen for thirty minutes while I attend to other, more important tasks. Why you ask do I not either assign someone else to watch the POD or watch it myself? Because I have no extra bodies to watch the POD and I have other things that I must attend too. Plus, I don't like to subject my people or myself to the torture of watching a boring computer screen that is grainy,fuzzy or in general, hard to watch or make anything out on. It is all smoke and mirrors, the product of a conected guy who owns the camera company. I can guarantee you that the company (owned by a connected guy or gal) is charging the city top dollar for the equipment and then supplying low end equipment.
Hallelujah!
Fuckery in the highest!
This fast, greasy squirt of a fart in the press wouldn't happen to be coincidentally timed with the visit by Homeland Security hog-head Napolitano, now would it?
Naaawwwww!
Ain't shit coincidental in this town!
But!
This shit IS TELLING!
The feds KNOW HOW BADLY IT'S FUCKED UP HERE!
Is shorty playing a game of chicken with the G?
"We're broke, send us money... lots of money!"
Uhhh... nope?
"WAHHHHH!"
Sorry shorty... tap that slush fund!
Is shorty pissed because he thought pushing "The Hollow Man" to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. would mean that the money tap would be turned on full blast?
Fire sale on municipal assets?
Stealin' the stank off raw dog shit because he thinks it'll have redeeming commercial value?
Hmmmm... This baby is going to be very ugly when it's born and king shorty is the daddy.
4,500 crimes? The media sold ask for the paperwork attributed to each and every crime. Let's see the corresponding arrest report, the type of crime...and the conviction. Fucking poser.
Love it found out that our wonderful government aka FEMA in my 009th district is giving free money to people who got there houses flooded last month.
Applied for this program, but we live on the NW side, Two different FEMA inspectors came out to inspect the damage...it's a lot, and we just got a letter saying we don't qualify, and here's info to get another mortage or an SBA loan to fix the damage.
What a country!!
My hard drive in my Tahoe wont upload anymore. Everyday it says the hard drive has to be manually removed and downloaded. Not my problem. I just turn it on everyday and hope it selfdestructs.
4500? Absolutely untrue. Prove it. I want to see the case reports. You're a liar, Weis.
8/31/2010 02:33:00 AM
And heres HIS point:
Prove its NOT true! He says "4,500", hell, he can cay all of the crimes have been solved by POD missions... Prove otherwise!
Thats the real problem.
does anybody really believe that bulls**t?....
OT: But the female that was found burned to death on the west side was finally filed. It wasn't a death investigation after all, she's been charged with littering!
"J-Fled is nothing more than Shortshanks ventriloquism dummy. I bet he even puts him on his knee."
That's not his knee...
4,498 of the 4,500 "crimes" were parking tickets, selling loose cigs, pissers, drinking on the public way, etc.
Who do they think they're fooling with their statistical propaganda?
8/31/2010 12:23:00 AM
zalewski is at the track, hey if Quinn loses the election will the job Zalewski got for his sons wife making $118,000 per year be gone also? $118,000 per year to a young college graduate I asked quinn at an event he was at he said "She was the best qualified"! Yea ok carry on nothing to see here!
The 23rd ward true streets tore up but not repaired why mike zalewski? Why mike are police being moved from this area? Thought you had it all "under control" guess not! Good luck Ms. GORAL! We need a change and the time is now,throw out all incumbents they stole enough!
DID THEY COUNT PARKING VIOLATIONS THAT "POD WATCHERS" OBSERVE AND THEN FORWARD TO DISPATCH WHILE BEAT CAR HAS 10 JOBS "STACKED" UP AND DISTRICT IS IN A BACK LOG?I WILL BET THAT AT LEAST 1000 OF THE "SOLVED"CRIMES WERE PARKING VIOLATIONS!!!!!!!
Hey second city cop. My dog and I read the blog together every morning. Does that mean you have at least two readers for every viewing "hit" that the website gets? It's the same logic as pod missions solving crimes right?
Im also a Dick in Area 2. Work the property side. Ive requested POD videos for investigations. Then I get the response that the POD was not working. Or another example,I watch video for over an hour and it doesnt show the crime occur, even though the camera was right across the street from the victims house.
Boondoggle is an understatement
OT
Anyone with ears in 22 hear about a house break-ins around 0500-0600 this morning, 31 Aug, around 10300 Seeley to Leavitt and 10600 Seeley to Leavitt. Chopper was out this morning, hovering around for about 45 minutes and 5-6 squads on the streets and about 8-10 officers searching backyards on the 10500 block of Seeley.
Being a former tact supvsr, we were guilty of some of these skewed numbers. We had to do a POD mission a week, so if a weed arrest was made a block away from the POD, we'd put it on the mission totals, even though no one was watching the POD and the POD had absolutely nothing to do with it. We had to 4 various "missions" a week, and all were smoke and mirrors, but in the long run it looks like we just gave J-Fled more ammo. Sorry.
BE SAFE!
24,000 missions and only 4,500 drinkers. Yeah, lets hang our hats on that.
4500 crimes cleared in 241 days equals 18.6 crimes cleared a day.
It does not seem plausible!
How many arrests a day are the Detective Division reporting?
One simple follow-up question...how many people were convicted of a crime as a result of evidence gained from a POD camera? This question needs to be asked and asked until it is answered and the particulars of the specific cases should be uncovered. It wouldn't be a difficult task either because there may only be one or two cases...or maybe no cases at all!
Our desk sgt does three pod missions a day, all event numbers appear on the watch commanders log. I guarantee our good sergeant hasn't made one arrest on any of those missions.
Please tell me , WTF is this guy drinkin' ? Does he really believe all this " BULLSHIT " he dreams up ? GOD save the C P D !!!!!
"Anytime someone moves a camera via remote control, they call it a mission and generate a BS number." -- SCC
Channel 11 has repeatedly run a documentary on video surveillance in England; one scene showed a control room jammed with TV screens and white shirts, fifteen of them earnestly discussing some nutty kid breaking into an electrical box with a screwdriver, or calmly watching some huge drunken closing-time mob breaking windows.
Get all that beef out of that room, give them sticks, and put them out on the street where they could do a job of police work, and you might have something...
It's gotten ridiculous. These people are living in an Xbox "virtual reality." Do they have "action gloves" you can wear to electronically slap the image of the wino upside his head to accumulate points?
The camera does not solve crimes. What this stat shows is the dicks had to request video from cameras 4500 times. I bet less than 3% of those requests led to useful images. every case part of the closer has to include if a POD camera was nearby and if the video was requested. The POD cameras are always moving randomly and produce very ittle useful video. But its a nice stat to say the cameras have been used in 4500 crimes
Still need a person to respond to what ever camera has recorded. The computer cant arrest anyone.
I call "Bullshit" !!!!!!!!!!!!
J-Fled can't count that high !!!!!!!
"Momma Gonna Whip Your Butt for Lyin' " !!!!!!
COMPLETE LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!
Media check this guys statements out and call his bluff!
WHAT A LIE
Anonymous said...
OT
Anyone with ears in 22 hear about a house break-ins around 0500-0600 this morning, 31 Aug, around 10300 Seeley to Leavitt and 10600 Seeley to Leavitt. Chopper was out this morning, hovering around for about 45 minutes and 5-6 squads on the streets and about 8-10 officers searching backyards on the 10500 block of Seeley.
8/31/2010 12:15:00 PM
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3 houses got hit by a cat burglar......guy will be caught within 3 days....cannot say why in case bad guy or a friend reads this
To paraphrase Mark Twain:
There are lies.
There are damn lies.
And then, there are statistics.
"We had to 4 various "missions" a week, and all were smoke and mirrors, but in the long run it looks like we just gave J-Fled more ammo. Sorry.
BE SAFE!
8/31/2010 12:32:00 PM"
actually, you just gave him more rope......
"Hey second city cop. My dog and I read the blog together every morning. Does that mean you have at least two readers for every viewing "hit" that the website gets? It's the same logic as pod missions solving crimes right?
8/31/2010 11:35:00 AM"
let's hear what your dog has to say on the subject.
"Who do they think they're fooling with their statistical propaganda?
8/31/2010 11:23:00 AM"
as many retarded, registered voters as possible.
"I WILL BET THAT AT LEAST 1000 OF THE "SOLVED"CRIMES WERE PARKING VIOLATIONS!!!!!!!
8/31/2010 11:29:00 AM"
make that 4,000 and you might win the pool prize.
Area 2 Detective
thanks Kid go and drink some cool aid with your partner, kiss the new c/os ring...
To the person on here bashing Zalewski he's the only alderman that got a dedicated beat car assigned to a taxpayer area. So for that reason alone he should be reelected.
You should of seen the mob at 119th & Halsted yesterday and today. FEMA is passing out $600. checks to anyone who claims flood damage without any proof?
I saw one fellow, who resides on the 3rd floor, and inquired "what are you doing here"? He replied "the government is giving us money for the rain and I am getting mine". I pointed out he doesn't live in the basement and he responded "they don't care."
This apparently will go until Saturday.
WTF!!
Anonymous said...
OT
Anyone with ears in 22 hear about a house break-ins around 0500-0600 this morning, 31 Aug, around 10300 Seeley to Leavitt and 10600 Seeley to Leavitt. Chopper was out this morning, hovering around for about 45 minutes and 5-6 squads on the streets and about 8-10 officers searching backyards on the 10500 block of Seeley.
8/31/2010 12:15:00 PM
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3 houses got hit by a cat burglar......guy will be caught within 3 days....cannot say why in case bad guy or a friend reads this
8/31/2010 04:01:00 PM
Was this predicted by the predicted analysis unit?
Love it found out that our wonderful government aka FEMA in my 009th district is giving free money to people who got there houses flooded last month. They are giving them 600 dollar link cards all within 72 hours to have the money in the account. Also they will give you up to $1400 cash guess what for free The kicker they aren't checking the applications they say, and that anyone can apply and get the money. It runs from Monday to next Monday. So today they gave out 1,000 checks and link cards. Man it must be great to not work, and get free stuff from the government. Makes me want to stay home and get free shit!!!
8/31/2010 12:56:00 AM
.......the fraud that exists with every phase of our government is in the billions. This is crazy that they don't verify anything.
Larry the Cable Guy once said 97% of all statistics are made up on the spot. This is one of the 97%.
"To the person on here bashing Zalewski he's the only alderman that got a dedicated beat car assigned to a taxpayer area. So for that reason alone he should be reelected.
8/31/2010 07:02:00 PM"
bullshit x 2.
"Is shorty pissed because he thought pushing "The Hollow Man" to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. would mean that the money tap would be turned on full blast?"
Recently Chicago got snubbed for some big education funding.
A lot of good having Chicago Democrats Obama & Arne Duncan in D.C. did us!
"To the person on here bashing Zalewski he's the only alderman that got a dedicated beat car assigned to a taxpayer area. So for that reason alone he should be reelected.
8/31/2010 07:02:00 PM"
and he's also the jagoff who wants the citizen ticket writers going block to block writing any bullshit violation they can dream of. "That reason alone is why he should not be reelected."
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