Got a Masters (Masters Masters) Degree?
- Director- Police Education and Training, Chicago, IL
Duties: The Director of Police Education and Training will report to the Assistant Deputy Superintendent of the Education and Training Division. The Director is responsible for formulating policies and strategies to ensure that recruit training programs, as well as in-service training programs, are run efficiently and effectively. The Director will be responsible for implementing new initiatives and measuring the success of all existing and new training programs.
Minimum Qualifications: A Master’s Degree in Education, Organizational Development or a related field from an accredited college or university. Extensive experience in training members of the law enforcement community is preferred.
Salary: Commensurate with experience.
Residency Requirement: Must be an actual resident of the City of Chicago at the time of hire. Proof of residency will be required at the time of hire.
To apply: submit a cover letter, résumé, transcripts, and list of three references to: TrainingDirector@chicagopolice.org.
Application Deadline: 8 November 2010
A little under a month to apply. Can anyone tell us why we're searching an outsider? Having an ADS and a Commander of the Academy isn't enough? Especially in this economy? Especially in light of how well outsiders have been accepted in the past? We're just curious.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
69 Comments:
..and why do we even need a Director of Training when we are not even hiring anybody????
oh god . . .
what a fuckin' handjob.
KILL the gold-braid pension NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Howie is in hot water. His temper tantrums have gained attention from 35th street. Time for a replacement.
Any bets that Michelle Engstrom is looking for a civilian job. . . just aksing. She certainly has the credentials.
off topic, just went down on friday and picked up my 30th career lawsuit!... 19 years on and 30 lawsuits... at least im numb to them by now. the only good thing about it is that im still here, have made alot of ot and havent had to pay a dime of my own money....yet. moral of the story, the kid I was working with when I went down to pick it up was sh*ting his pants and thought it was the end of the world. He kept telling me all about how in the academy almost every instructor pounded it into thier heads that if you get sued its the end all be all of your career and that they will be fired. Sure, nobody likes picking up a lawsuit but seriously???? end of your career??? ha! I never liked getting sued but ive come to find that its now(unfortunatly) part of this(sometimes shi*ty) job. it doesnt make it right but it is exactly what this job has become. oh well, thats my rant for today.. kids, dont worry. lawsuits are part of the game. its not the end of the world and you only have to worry if you really, truly did something shady, illegal or flat out wrong... if your getting sued for really doing you job then youll be fine... dont listen to the mopes who tell you that your gonna be broke, loose your house, your car, your first born child and end up like cozzie... its not, unless you do something like finnegan, cozzi or abbatte.
Is the city going to hire police finally or just smoke and mirrors as usual?
not "searching"; i'm sure they already know who its gonna be. just going through the motions..
Hmmm, who is going to out of a job soon who can be key holed into this spot. I wonder.
The Comander position is vacant, remember Wedster? Thus they are choosing to put a civilian in the spot as a Director. I'm sure it will be a retired copper with Juice, ala Bob Roman.
Guess that's what happens when the first order of business from the new man in charge is to gut the department of all of it's experienced command personnel. All of a sudden the cupboard is bare and the man who's never been a cop has no clue how to replace them.
Can we please just end this stupid J-Fled experiment now. It didn't work and never will. Jody should apologize to future generations of federal agents who, because of his embarrassing exploits and failures, will find future law enforcement administrative opportunities in VERY short supply. Jody has exposed THE major flaw in trying to hire experienced federal administrators to run municipal police agencies: their inability to address nearly every avenue of first responder policing because they, as federal agents, NEVER performed that task.
Please, they already have the person selected. You mean there isn't a qualified lt or capt that can be assigned to this spot? Gimme a break. More of City Hall padding the CPD's payroll with it's friends. Just like the new medical director. Or the baby director of predictive analysis (Mommy and Daddy are contributors to Daley).
I believe Mastes - Masters - Masters is the key here. Once JFled is dumped there has to be a spot for the 3M somewhere in the department. The other key being salary. They can select him for this job and he can remain at his current enflated salary. Just a thought.
PS: since we're on the Supt's staff. Why is it we now have a Commander in the Supt's Office doing a job that was handled by a Sgt. for years? Just wondering? Yeah, like I really don't know the answer to that one.
How demeaning to minorities to require a Masters Degree AND experience...
How odd? Masters degree in Education? For recruit training policies, yet Huberman with no education background runs CPS?
The Commander of the Academy got dumped!
The spot is unfilled and I believe out of the budget.
J-Fled's just got to have another time at bat to fuck up our department more than he has.
So when is the re-map of police districts gonna happen? How about moving the Area 5 gang team into the old 15th district station? Or just have the 25th district beat cars work out of there?
It should have said a masters degree from an accredited school excluding on-line degrees and the bullshit, fake schools that offer M.S. degrees for exempts (i.e. Kalumet Kollege, Chicago State, etc.).
I'm sure the best and brightest political hack will get the job.
Sounds like more waste and more people doing the same job. Way too many chiefs and very little indians.
The problem isn't how well we have accepted civilians as bosses, the problem is that most of the civilians hired turn into haters of the sworn members. And, in turn, that is why we're in the current debacle. The first step in re-building the department is out with the unsworn. Bring the team back up to being one homogenous organization. Sorry civilian exempts, but you are the weakest link.
The academy does not and has not had a commander since Ruth stepped in it. This new position will supposedly take the place of the commander spot and is as the first step toward civilianizing the academy. Having said that, they need to save money and go back to how it use to be and have a Commander and Captain and I suppose a Lieutenant can do the Captains job.
I gots my Ph.D in poverty pimping from Jessie Jackson's skool of race hustlin, does that count?
O.T. Haha
Sneed is told Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis' work wardrobe got strafed again.
• To wit: Weis, a former career FBI agent who drew flak for wearing a Chicago Police uniform, was attending an event honoring former N.Y.C. police chief Bill Bratton --when a luncheon speaker lauded former Chicago Police Supt. O.W. Wilson, who had also never been a Chicago cop, for not wearing a police uniform.
• The buckshot: "You could have heard a pin drop," said a Sneed source who was at the Sept. 21 Illinois Academy of Criminology luncheon at the Union League honoring Bratton with the O.W. Wilson award.
• The upshot: When queried later about posing for a picture with Bratton and former Chicago top cops LeRoy Martin, Matt Rodriguez, Terry Hillard and Phil Cline, Weis, who was in a rush out the door, reportedly declined by stating: "I'm too busy."
I do not understand why the department is looking for a director of training when we have a ADS of training. But then, reading the job duties, Howie does not come close. In fact, I would say that Howie could not apply for this newly created job. Howie does not have the necessary qualifications. Howie has two lieutenants under him and the three together could not qualify for this job. Maybe 35th street has had enough of Howie and his crew. Just wondering....
Here's a nutty idea: Let's hire someone from within the department so they have a fucking clue about our contract and how things operate already.
Sounds like a job for Huberman. Could this be something to get his foot back in the door of CPD?
The Commander of the Academy got dumped!
The spot is unfilled and I believe out of the budget.
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But they'll create a "director" spot? Fucking brilliant. Smoke and Mirrors.
ya suppose a lt can do a captains job , all captains are merit clouted lts , end of story
lts run the second watch and 50 % of time run 1st and 3rd watches
eliminate rank of captain
hire civilians for every command clouted exempt position and save our pension fund
i agree get rid of gold braid pension
off topic, just went down on friday and picked up my 30th career lawsuit!... 19 years on and 30 lawsuits... at least im numb to them by now. the only good thing about it is that im still here, have made alot of ot and havent had to pay a dime of my own money....yet
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Time to slow it down, brother. It ain't like it was 19 years ago. Corp counsel is asking for contributions before settling. Punitives are on the table in every case.
On top of this, a new regime is coming in and they will be making many changes, none of which will be good for us.
Lawsuits and settlements are going to be big deals for a city that is completely broke.
This is no joke. If this city thinks you are going to cost them money, they are coming after you. Take this from someone who knows.
Obviously you are a do nothing at the academy that is mad that the ADS actually makes you work. ADS lodding has a masters degree and is more then qualified for the job. Not to mention that he actually worked the street unlike yourself who's been inside his whole career.
off topic, just went down on friday and picked up my 30th career lawsuit!... 19 years on and 30 lawsuits...
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YOU my friend are a
f-u-c-k-i-n-g moron.
I'm glad you're not on my log.
assign a lt to run academy
you don't need and ads or commander
remember all commanders were lts before receiving meritorious promotions to captains and commanders
i would rather see a qualified civilian as a commander , at least that wouldn't drain our pension
Anonymous said...
off topic, just went down on friday and picked up my 30th career lawsuit!... 19 years on and 30 lawsuits... at least im numb to them by now. the only good thing about it is that im still here, have made alot of ot and havent had to pay a dime of my own money....yet. moral of the story, the kid I was working with when I went down to pick it up was sh*ting his pants and thought it was the end of the world. He kept telling me all about how in the academy almost every instructor pounded it into thier heads that if you get sued its the end all be all of your career and that they will be fired. Sure, nobody likes picking up a lawsuit but seriously???? end of your career??? ha! I never liked getting sued but ive come to find that its now(unfortunatly) part of this(sometimes shi*ty) job. it doesnt make it right but it is exactly what this job has become. oh well, thats my rant for today.. kids, dont worry. lawsuits are part of the game. its not the end of the world and you only have to worry if you really, truly did something shady, illegal or flat out wrong... if your getting sued for really doing you job then youll be fine... dont listen to the mopes who tell you that your gonna be broke, loose your house, your car, your first born child and end up like cozzie... its not, unless you do something like finnegan, cozzi or abbatte.
10/10/2010 01:00:00 AM
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Unless you are a detective and get hit for punitive damages. You don't know as much as you think you do.
It's open season on us an punitive damages are a real possibility. You don't have to be a crook to get hit with punitives.
Luberman,here he comes!
off topic, just went down on friday and picked up my 30th career lawsuit!... 19 years on and 30 lawsuits... at least im numb to them by now. the only good thing about it is that im still here, have made alot of ot and havent had to pay a dime of my own money....yet. moral of the story, the kid I was working with when I went down to pick it up was sh*ting his pants and thought it was the end of the world. He kept telling me all about how in the academy almost every instructor pounded it into thier heads that if you get sued its the end all be all of your career and that they will be fired. Sure, nobody likes picking up a lawsuit but seriously???? end of your career??? ha! I never liked getting sued but ive come to find that its now(unfortunatly) part of this(sometimes shi*ty) job. it doesnt make it right but it is exactly what this job has become. oh well, thats my rant for today.. kids, dont worry. lawsuits are part of the game. its not the end of the world and you only have to worry if you really, truly did something shady, illegal or flat out wrong... if your getting sued for really doing you job then youll be fine... dont listen to the mopes who tell you that your gonna be broke, loose your house, your car, your first born child and end up like cozzie... its not, unless you do something like finnegan, cozzi or abbatte.
10/10/2010 01:00:00 AM
You just picked up the 30th lawsuit of your career and you felt that this was something you needed to mention here? Do you think that just maybe you might be doing something wrong? Did it ever cross your mind that having that many lawsuits filed against you is not normal? You sir are a fucking stroke of the highest order. Maybe this 30th one will be the end of your undeserved lucky streak you moron.
P.S. Work on your spelling and grammar. Your paperwork might be the cause of some of your lawsuits.
Can you apply if you are a sworn Police officer with a good background in education training?
Thus they are choosing to put a civilian in the spot as a Director. I'm sure it will be a retired copper with Juice, ala Bob Roman
oh he would go over very well greating the new recruits..big time jag
Four Det's., two separate lawsuits - close to $400 grand total punitive - watch your backs.
Director is gonna be MMM, his spot may go away with new sup. He will bring RR back to academy put him in charge of operations. RR will bring his two stooges from the sup office, they've been crying and whining about having to work and their current supervisor tolerates them knowing that they will be out of his remaining hair soon.
Unless you are a detective and get hit for punitive damages. You don't know as much as you think you do.
It's open season on us an punitive damages are a real possibility. You don't have to be a crook to get hit with punitives.
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those dics didnt have to pay a dime. after a hearing and a motion the judge lowered the punitive amount and the city picked up the bill for it. 99% of the time if punitive damages are awarded the city will pick up the tab for it. example: they will tell you that you owe 35000 dollars at the verdict then they will automatically file a motion for a hearing date(with only a judge). the judge then hears why punitives should not be awarded(officer in debt, cant afford it, house, kids, car, has bills etc). the judge then rules and one of several things can happen. The punitives are thrown out by the judge(the most common case), the plaintiff justs drops the punitive award(because it is a lower amount) because more hearings and motions can delay a payout for years and pookie and lawfirm dont want to wait for that, or the city will pick up the tab for the punitives. If you truly go out and do something illegal(robbing, beating to a pulp on camera, stealing, or the biggest one, get caught blatently lying in federal court etc) and its got to be really bad then you are on your own with the punitives. Dont let the nervous, paranoid and ill informed people on this job tell you any different. People just love to say how your gonna get hung out to dry so much because they dont want to go out and do anything. its easy to blame lawsuits for not doing work anymore but its not as bad as everyone thinks. ive been sued 9 or so times in my career and was hit with punitive damages in 2 or 5 that actually went to trial. Both times we ended up not paying anything. the judge threw out punitives in one case and the other he lowered it from 60,000(punitive) to 2500 and the city picked up the bill. they are not as bad as people think. Its just another day at the office.
Obviously you are a do nothing at the academy that is mad that the ADS actually makes you work. ADS lodding has a masters degree and is more then qualified for the job. Not to mention that he actually worked the street unlike yourself who's been inside his whole career.
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You tell em Lt. Picket
The Comander position is vacant, remember Wedster? Thus they are choosing to put a civilian in the spot as a Director. I'm sure it will be a retired copper with Juice, ala Bob Roman.
10/10/2010 04:58:00 AM
The only topic Roman can teach is "Kissing Ass"!
I'm glad you're not on my log.
Thanks. What a stand up Sgt. you must be.Just what these guys need, and one of the reasons I left.
Signed, Retired Lt.
do i need to prove that i took the GMAT for my MBA or will the dept waive it the same that st xavier waves it for the police?
does any other school waive the GRE or GMAT for Grad Programs?
Only in Chicago
The Comander position is vacant, remember Wedster? Thus they are choosing to put a civilian in the spot as a Director. I'm sure it will be a retired copper with Juice, ala Bob Roman.
10/10/2010 04:58:00 AM
The only topic Roman can teach is "Kissing Ass"!
That response is in correct.
Roman can teach a lot of police administration related subjects...
ROMAN'S RESUME
Back stabbing
Throat cutting
Under handing
Coffee and lunch fetching
Rumor mongering
Politician appeasing
Blackberry manipulation
Trench coat wearing
Fed fondling...
and the list goes on.
Brustie must be looking for more free concert tickets! Graft and corruption are obviously okay in his book as long as he receives the benefits while an underling actually accepts the bribe/ gratuity... FBI, ain't they grand!
Anonymous said...
Obviously you are a do nothing at the academy that is mad that the ADS actually makes you work. ADS lodding has a masters degree and is more then qualified for the job. Not to mention that he actually worked the street unlike yourself who's been inside his whole career.
When did Lodding work on the street? 12 years ago? How would he know what is actually going on in the academy when he is too busy running around yelling at everyone for everything? Lodding and his two LTS are like the three stoogies. Not a clue about training.
if your getting sued for really doing you job then youll be fine... dont listen to the mopes who tell you that your gonna be broke, loose your house, your car, your first born child and end up like cozzie... its not, unless you do something like finnegan, cozzi or abbatte.
10/10/2010 01:00:00 AM
All I can say is WOW. You win the award for Biggest Tool With Stupid Information.
That Director spot is for Hubbie!!!!!
Obviously you are a do nothing at the academy that is mad that the ADS actually makes you work. ADS lodding has a masters degree and is more then qualified for the job. Not to mention that he actually worked the street unlike yourself who's been inside his whole career.
10/10/2010 12:39:00 PM
Get the mans dick out of your mouth, he aint gonna promote you! Howie is qualified to run his blackberry, thats it.
Worked the street? Shhhiiitttttt.... What did he do? Oooohhhh; tact in 011, WOW, color me impressed... WHAT THE FUCK DID HE DO?
And YOU want to talk about someone who has been inside his career? Bitch please...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
do i need to prove that i took the GMAT for my MBA or will the dept waive it the same that st xavier waves it for the police?
does any other school waive the GRE or GMAT for Grad Programs?
Only in Chicago
10/10/2010 09:52:00 PM
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Most schools waive the GMAT for their graduate programs if you got your undergrad at the same school.
Anonymous said...
do i need to prove that i took the GMAT for my MBA or will the dept waive it the same that st xavier waves it for the police?
does any other school waive the GRE or GMAT for Grad Programs?
Only in Chicago
10/10/2010 09:52:00 PM
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Some schools will waive it depending on circumstances. If someone had a high GPA and they've been out of college for a few years, then some schools will take that into consideration.
I didn't take a GMAT. I've got straight A's in my program thus far.
Anonymous said...
Obviously you are a do nothing at the academy that is mad that the ADS actually makes you work. ADS lodding has a masters degree and is more then qualified for the job. Not to mention that he actually worked the street unlike yourself who's been inside his whole career.
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You tell em Lt. Picket
10/10/2010 08:04:00 PM
I am not assigned to the academy but is it true that the majority of the staff have masters degrees? If ADS Lodding has some nonproductive officers then he can make the necessary changes to improve the conditions there. What has happened since Wedster left the academy that they are now looking for a director? Suddenly 35th street seeks new leadership? They have two qualified lieutenants that could assume the position but Ladner is looking nationwide for a replacement? Hard to ignore the obivious. Ladner is not happy.
Wrong, asshat - the det's. hit with punitive for "holding witnesses against their will" haven't yet paid - but it ain't been thrown out yet. Awaiting hearing on appellate level. It must be a bitch sitting in limbo for two years. Don't not do your job - just know that even when it's all good - loevy and loevy will try to prove it ain't.
all officers assigned to academy should be replaced with civilians
it would save alot of money and put officers back in patrol
"Howie is qualified to run his blackberry, thats it.
Worked the street? Shhhiiitttttt.... What did he do? Oooohhhh; tact in 011, WOW, color me impressed..."
He spent time on the watch in 011 as well. Certainly can't be said about that clown Goldstein making 150k as director of the crystal ball unit.
Anonymous said...
Obviously you are a do nothing at the academy that is mad that the ADS actually makes you work. ADS lodding has a masters degree and is more then qualified for the job. Not to mention that he actually worked the street unlike yourself who's been inside his whole career.
10/10/2010 12:39:00 PM
you are not only a suckass, but you are a liar. coward lodding has no degree of any sort. He made lieutenant before the education requirement was attached to the promotional test. he then had to bypass captain because, as of the end of 2005, you cannot be a captain unless you have a degree, but, oth, he does not need a degree to be an exempt. how ridiculous, but true. even more ridiculous is lodding being in charge of the academy, the educational arm of the department. lodding is a political deeze, dems and doze hack.
Punitive Damages lowered or paid by the city?
BS--Ask KP in 020, who got hit with them for protecting his partner from an AIDS ridden, meth addict POS (now dead) who blindsided the partner during a disturbance.
all officers assigned to academy should be replaced with civilians
it would save alot of money and put officers back in patrol
10/11/2010 11:20:00 AM
No guy. Civilians should not be teaching future police officers to be police officers. You are just stupid, go away before you make all of us dumber.
I am not assigned to the academy but is it true that the majority of the staff have masters degrees? If ADS Lodding has some nonproductive officers then he can make the necessary changes to improve the conditions there. What has happened since Wedster left the academy that they are now looking for a director? Suddenly 35th street seeks new leadership? They have two qualified lieutenants that could assume the position but Ladner is looking nationwide for a replacement? Hard to ignore the obivious. Ladner is not happy.
10/11/2010 07:28:00 AM
Ladner is not happy? She must be off her meds again. I've never seen that crazy broad happy. I can't even name one person at 35th street who can say a nice thing about her.
As far as the Academy staff - they may have degrees, I wouldn't know, but I hear through the grape vine they can't schedule classes for one day without screwing it up with two instructors at the same time, no one shows up, two hour unscheduled lunches, etc.....Does it really take a degree to manage that? They don't need Lts. or a Director. They need someone who knows what they're doing!!!
ADS lodding has a masters degree and is more then qualified for the job. Not to mention that he actually worked the street unlike yourself who's been inside his whole career
Listen, I like Lodding, but work the street?
C'mon
He was Commander of 021. Not difficult
An ADS-not difficult
Was an admin sergeant in public housing. Only hit the streets going back and forth to work and lunch.
And I'm sure he didn't work the streets as a PO.
you are not only a suckass, but you are a liar. coward lodding has no degree of any sort. He made lieutenant before the education requirement was attached to the promotional test. he then had to bypass captain because, as of the end of 2005, you cannot be a captain unless you have a degree, but, oth, he does not need a degree to be an exempt. how ridiculous, but true. even more ridiculous is lodding being in charge of the academy, the educational arm of the department. lodding is a political deeze, dems and doze hack.
Wrong. he made it off the first test that required a Bachelors degree for promotion to Lt.
Wrong. he made it off the first test that required a Bachelors degree for promotion to Lt.
10/11/2010 10:57:00 PM
Bullshit. He was promoted to lieutenant before the education requirement. And he was merit.
Anonymous said...
ADS lodding has a masters degree and is more then qualified for the job. Not to mention that he actually worked the street unlike yourself who's been inside his whole career
Listen, I like Lodding, but work the street?
C'mon
He was Commander of 021. Not difficult
An ADS-not difficult
Was an admin sergeant in public housing. Only hit the streets going back and forth to work and lunch.
And I'm sure he didn't work the streets as a PO.
10/11/2010 10:33:00 PM
If I remember correctly, he was assigned to the academy as a PO? What real street experience does he have? And he does not have a MS degree as head of the academy? And he replaced Tobias a natural leader? Gosh, Lodding found success without qualifications. But times are changing and now he is in over his head.
Just heard......Retired Captain Dr. John Roberts will be applying for the position. He has the credentials and the background.
Knowing him he'll probably test the "system" to see if he gets hired. If he doesn't get it, the fix is in.
Lake Geneva,WI and Peoria, AZ are looking for Police Chief's Check out IAPC web site. 2 of my favorite places to escape this hell hole.
Does anyone know where the official job description and application are for this position?
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