Once Again, CAPS Dead?
Will someone just put a bullet in this thing already?
- Each district will have 1 Sgt and 2 POs in their CAPS office. Sgts were called down to 35th & Mich yesterday, as were DAC Chairs. Downtown Ernie Brown stated there will be no more graduations [from] academy after 2 current classes through 2012.
Wait a minute...
No more classes again? For all of 2011? Even though they're giving a test? Even though hiring didn't keep up with anything near the retirement numbers? And they're talking about pulling another 100 people out of Patrol?
Who's got the scoop?
No more classes again? For all of 2011? Even though they're giving a test? Even though hiring didn't keep up with anything near the retirement numbers? And they're talking about pulling another 100 people out of Patrol?
Who's got the scoop?
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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No new officers till 2012?
I am guessing the Daley regime certainly has fucked the next mayor when it comes to the city budget, but it will be the tax payer who gets fucked when the new mayor raises property taxes.
Good going Dickie, boy!
I just pray to the Almighty that my neighborhood will hold its own and I can sell in a few years at a profit when I leave this hell hole.
CAPS is like your classic Steven King horror movie monster. Just when you think its dead there's reanimation
The two districts I have intimate knowledge about both did the same mistake. The the CAPS people that survived the cut were the ones that did no work. Tthey are no doubt happy to still be there, but will soon be surprised by the amount of work they now have to do. Good luck!
The CAPS thing is true. Not sure about the hiring.
C.A.P.S. WORKS!
(Would I lie?)
How would there be a class before then if they aren't going to give a class til 2011?
No need for CAPS..we have the Revruns
OT-Where is j-fled? Is the guy that never met a sound bite that he didn't like finally shutting up and riding off into the sunset?
Never has a supt of police been so political. He mistakenly thought that the more his was out in front of the camera the more the public would adore him. He is a victim of his own ambition. If there ever was one to pat himself on the back during January and cold crime dead months there was J-Fled. And mark my words he will try to go out with a bang and will throw out the cooked statistics until they throw the final shovelfull of dirt on the regime. He is shopping for another position as we speak and hopefully will go away forever soon.No mayoral hopefull in his right mind would even casually entertain the thought of keeping him. Bye bye hubbie and j-fled. You sucked.
F*ck Caps...Take that stupid logo off of the cars and replace it with the old time blue star.
Hey what gives with the FOP endorsing Brian Doherty for 10th dist. State Senate? I attended the Doherty/Mulroe debate at Wright College last week, and Doherty read a script written in a spiral notebook, his speech slurred. He couldn't respond quickly to rebuttals and at one point rambled so badly, no one in the audience, the moderator or Mulroe could understand him. We want this guy in the State Senate?
"1 Sgt and 2 POs in their CAPS office"
lol..on paper anyway..the clout babies still will be given nice spots and kept inside. It's already being done. Most front offices have enough personnel to make up their own watch. Add to that all the clout baby,newly promoted Lt.'s and Sgt's being transferred to a cush unit,out of Patrol and we'll be back to the same shortages in the districts.
Hillard's company just re-affirmed what POs did in background investigations section of personnel. BTW He has a son and daughter on the Job. This is a clear conflict of interest. BTW How did his son go IOD while in the Academy when he couldnt pass thepower test. Riight Tobias Mr.Earned not given? BGA Investigate. Terry's company is coasting the taxpayers millions of dollars.
with the city crying poor again to the tune of 700 million dollars for 2011's budget it is no suprise that their is a hiring freeze across the board..... no furlo extensions, fight for time due, going from job to job all night long like a ping pong ball, coppers and bosses walking around in a bad mood.... it's still a job with good benefits, just try to make the best of it and don't take any of the negative home to the family....
>>>Good going Dickie, boy!
I just pray to the Almighty that my neighborhood will hold its own and I can sell in a few years at a profit when I leave this hell hole.
10/11/2010 12:12:00 AM<<<
Good Luck to You... Good Luck in Club Fed to Dickie
There's going to be a 3.8% Federal Sales Tax on All Real Estate Transactions to pay for the Universal Health Care. Consult your Tax and Real Estate professionals and for God's sake register and vote.
Public safety should be this city's first priority but it always seems to be last. This manpower shortage issue is way out of control; has been for a long time. Now we're going to be sinking in the hole even further. Wow
THE UPSHOT????
is that supposed to be insulting, that he is too busy??
10/10/2010 09:42:00 PM
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No, it's reflective of the fact he would have stuck out like a sore thumb, IN HIS UNIFORM, among this group of former supes who were wearing suits.
10/11/2010 12:43:00 AM
WHAT I MEANT WAS:
the upshot?
did he think he was insulting anyone by saying he was too busy?
the reporter thinks she was giving weiss credit for being clever in his answer.
At least 4 homicides (3 shootings, 1 stabbing) in the last 24 hours. Tell the citizens again how safe you have made them with your cooked numbers JFraud. And Goldstein, I predict you will be a patrolman by next June unless mommy and daddy buy you another job with more political contributions.
seriously...the clerk at our local 7-11 could do a better job running our department than the current regime at all levels. Some of the newly promoted Sgt's and Lt's are just clueless.
No hiring but aren't they hiring a director of training?
If there isn't going to be any new hires why did the department have open applications for POs to be assigned to the academy a couple months ago. Just trying to start another BS rumor. Same as no new hires in 2010 remember that rumor.
Ernie Brown our next Superintendent
has my vote of confidence
Ernie is a Lt and knows there is no need for the rank of Captain
that cut alone will save over
$10,000,000 a year
assign inside officers from office to street duties and cpd has more than enough officers
Hillard's company just re-affirmed what POs did in background investigations section of personnel. BTW He has a son and daughter on the Job.
All the big shots they leave here continue to be taken care of. they work for the city, airport,streets, forestry,water dept, city collage, and on and on.
What about a dic.'s class in november?
Anonymous said...
Hey what gives with the FOP endorsing Brian Doherty for 10th dist. State Senate? I attended the Doherty/Mulroe debate at Wright College last week, and Doherty read a script written in a spiral notebook, his speech slurred. He couldn't respond quickly to rebuttals and at one point rambled so badly, no one in the audience, the moderator or Mulroe could understand him. We want this guy in the State Senate?
10/11/2010 06:44:00 AM
It is the Illinois State Senate remember. A drunk Doherty would likely be an improvement.
Let's see, Doherty or Mulroe, O'Toole or O'Shaughenessy, hmmm, tough choice, which toora loora son of a bitch to vote for? Will it be Jamesons or Bushmills tonight? The Catholic spirits of the Protestant?
Who gives a shit. I'm finding a nice pretty Polish girl and voting for her no matter what.
So I can finally throw away that black binder we got way back when?
C'mon, use common sense. First a company to administer the test must be chosen, then applications go out, then tests are administered and scored, then letters go out and the academy starts which goes for 6 months. They would have to have a fresh class in the academy before
01 Jun 2011 in order to have a class graduate before 01 JAN 2012. So why is that a big surprise SCC when we know the applicants from the last testing process has been completely used up? Do you really think this City could have new applicants in the class before 01 JUN 11?
The 2010 Census will show a loss of population and the stats show that CPD can function and reduce crime with 2,000 less officers. So why do you think they would hire back to the old figure, which is supposed to be 13,000 plus? Daley has always hated the police, and as a parting shot he will leave the next mayor with the option of running the Dept. lean and mean.
his daughter went to 001 after her 18 mouths. went directly to the foot team and already on days. guys with 15-20 years on cant get days on foot. but i'll say she is a very nice girl. very cool! not mad, would be the same if ur old man was the ex supt!
WTF???
Check the latest transfers and see the people being moved TO the academy!
CAPS dead? Not in 022 Where no one in that office got the axe!
30+ years ago we had a Sgt,and 2 P/Os in what was then called Neighborhood Relations and they did the same thing that caps does.
In the immortal words of Yogi Berra
it's "Deja Vu" all over again.
Retired and loving it.
00 AM
Anonymous said...
Hillard's company just re-affirmed what POs did in background investigations section of personnel. BTW He has a son and daughter on the Job. This is a clear conflict of interest. BTW How did his son go IOD while in the Academy when he couldnt pass thepower test. Riight Tobias Mr.Earned not given? BGA Investigate. Terry's company is coasting the taxpayers millions of dollars.
10/11/2010 08:56:00 AM
First learn to spell you moron. Next both of his kids passed the academy on their own. Say what you want but Tobias never cut corners or bent the rules for recruits. He fired more recruits than any other superintendent. Lodding on the other hand is terrified of anything and everyone.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey what gives with the FOP endorsing Brian Doherty for 10th dist. State Senate? I attended the Doherty/Mulroe debate at Wright College last week, and Doherty read a script written in a spiral notebook, his speech slurred. He couldn't respond quickly to rebuttals and at one point rambled so badly, no one in the audience, the moderator or Mulroe could understand him. We want this guy in the State Senate?
10/11/2010 06:44:00 AM
Yes, we do. Mulroe is a Chicago DemocRATic machine hack that receives three public trough salaries at the moment.
I wouldn't vote for any DemocRATic HACK in a million years. Nice attempt at slurring a Republican Mulroe.
Signed a PISSED OFF TASXPAYER
CAPS was and is a politcal charade. The decent people of this city will always respect and appreciate good cops. Those on the other side of the fence will not. They will always be the first to picket, march and sue the police who are trying to do a good job, and the idea of shaking hands with an "urban interpreter" ala Brown and "Gator" is repugnant to me. I'd be willing to bet "Gator" is at this moment involved in some criminal enterprisen and he Meeks, Phlager, Flint Taylor, Locke Bowman communicate on a regular basis and devise ways to undermine the goals and morale of the CPD. The sooner CAPS is done away with the better.
Ernie Brown our next Superintendent
has my vote of confidence
Ernie is a Lt and knows there is no need for the rank of Captain
that cut alone will save over
$10,000,000 a year
assign inside officers from office to street duties and cpd has more than enough officers.
OK Lieutenant, take it easy, don't be a bitch cuz u were'nt a chosen one, after you put your Captain application together so well.
Squad, can i get an event number for a bus check, 99
HA HA it's all legit! SUCKERS
I know one day all this work I do on the watch will pay off
This department is good, honest and fair.
I concur, this information seems a little miseading.
I will wait for the scumtimes to write about it
For confirmation. And currently I happen to know
That there is only one class in the academy with rumor
Of another starting soon.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ernie Brown our next Superintendent
has my vote of confidence
Ernie is a Lt and knows there is no need for the rank of Captain
that cut alone will save over
$10,000,000 a year
assign inside officers from office to street duties and cpd has more than enough officers
10/11/2010 10:51:00 AM
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Get off the blog Ernie.
Man, I thoughts we be thru all dat.
CAPS ain't goin no wheres.
I gots to get my money on. North Shore livin and Ivy school edjamacations ain't cheap.
If tha city cuts Peter Snarl /Boogie Down Productions,I'm gonna starve.But guess what. You don't watch my show, watch me rob some of yall.
I gots a gun.I'm takin it to tha streets to gets my endoes. BELIEVE DAT.If CAPS don't work, CAPPINGS will.
Big Perm coming back to the watch!
look out on the north side--- 012, 014, 016, 017, 019, 023,024 are all giving up one car a night on third watch to the 025 district--- a full 8.5 hour tour of duty and they are being arbitrarily picked by the w/c with no regards to seniority--- can you say GRIEVANCE and also TIME AND ONE HALF come the next o/t check--- the funny thing is they are sitting at a fixed location and not taking any jobs--- so what's the point--- if 025 is drowning in a backlog every night then you would think that the manpower being robbed from other districts would be used for radio assignments pending--- the genius who thought this one up should be tied to a pole and flogged--- if 025 has so many problems with response times, then why don't they open up some bid spots in the unit to increase manpower--- i'm sure they will find plenty of guys who would like to work there.....
CAPS dead? Not in 022 Where no one in that office got the axe!
10/11/2010 03:30:00 PM
Hard believe isn't it? All smoke n mirrors. It's all legit, really.
Hey what gives with the FOP endorsing Brian Doherty for 10th dist. State Senate?
We want this guy in the State Senate?
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Yes we do! Because Brian Dohery stands for Lower Taxes and not rewarding the 3rd generation welfare abusers.
You may friend must fall into the group that need the government to wipe your nose!
CAPS is a good concept and a needed one. But, the program just got too big and too ambitious and became a hiding spot for way too many people. The program has been recognized worlkd wide and used by every big city, just not to the extent as in Chicago. And, Daley used the CAPS program to deflect criticism by telling a person if they had a problem, why did they not come to the CAPS meeting and tell the police? Don't throw out the baby with the bath water.
yea ok, just like when watch secretaries were supposed to go back on the street in a beat car...all they did was list the watch sec as a park car or traffic car and they still worked inside
I had a chat with a guy with some years on the job and he said that when Mr. Washington was mayor, we had less officers on the street than we have now. So, I guess Shortshanks can whittle us down some more before he's done. Pretty soon, there will be articles in the paper about how old the officers at CPD are.
There is a rumor going around that there will be hundreds of officers retiring in November and a large group retiring in May of 2010. It might get much uglier before it starts to turn around.
It'll be fun in a few years, hundreds of recruits with a skeleton crew to train them.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey what gives with the FOP endorsing Brian Doherty for 10th dist. State Senate? I attended the Doherty/Mulroe debate at Wright College last week, and Doherty read a script written in a spiral notebook, his speech slurred. He couldn't respond quickly to rebuttals and at one point rambled so badly, no one in the audience, the moderator or Mulroe could understand him. We want this guy in the State Senate?
10/11/2010 06:44:00 AM
Yes, we do. Mulroe is a Chicago DemocRATic machine hack that receives three public trough salaries at the moment.
3 consultant jobs? Mulroe has never been in office before so how can he be a hack, Einstein? Gimme a break. Silvestri currently has three full time goverment jobs and he is Doherty's Republican "good buddy" Doherty is such a hypocrit.
Anonymous said...
CAPS dead? Not in 022 Where no one in that office got the axe!
10/11/2010 03:30:00 PM
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Check again. The list of people dumped out is in the CO Book. Although, I hear the ones who went to afternoons all invoked a contract clause that forces Cmdr to keep them on days if they were on days in CAPS (Sec 31.1 of contract).
Ernie Brown our next Superintendent
has my vote of confidence
Ernie is a Lt and knows there is no need for the rank of Captain
that cut alone will save over
$10,000,000 a year
assign inside officers from office to street duties and cpd has more than enough officers
Police humor knows no ends..I just spit my milk out of my nose..LIFM
seriously...the clerk at our local 7-11 could do a better job running our department than the current regime at all levels. Some of the newly promoted Sgt's and Lt's are just clueless.
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Thats because the clerk at 7-11 has seen combat while in the Pakistani army!!!
Ernie Brown our next Superintendent
has my vote of confidence
Ernie is a Lt and knows there is no need for the rank of Captain
that cut alone will save over
$10,000,000 a year
assign inside officers from office to street duties and cpd has more than enough officers
10/11/2010 10:51:00 AM
You Sir are a stupid MORON!!!
You are not a Detective nor a Sergeant nor a Lieutenant nor are you a Captain. You are too stupid to pass a test.
Captains are needed just like J-Feds stupid idea of 2 Assistant Superintendents. You need a tie breaker.
If they did due away with Captains, $900,000 at the most. You will need 75 more Lieutenants.
Quit looking at your Daddy's computer Sonny and go to bed. Let the real Police do their work.
ASSHAT!!!!!
P.S. DownTown EB is also a MORON!!!
a test won't be given til middle of next year. So how could they have a class if there are no candidates?
John Cullerton is strongly against the election of Brian Doherty to the Illinois State Senate.
Therefore tomorrow I will ensure that a cast an early vote for Doherty as that is a vote against the Madigan/Cullerton machine.
But the most important vote, I will cast in the AM, is for Forest Claypool for Cook County Assesor as that is a vote against higher property taxes and a vote against Michael Madigan and his law firm enriching themselves at my expense!
Does anyone know which exempt crashed today in 016 on cumberland at addison? There where shitloads of cars and fire equip at the scene. Are they OK?
Retired and loving it.
10/11/2010 03:41:00 PM
that's right, rub it in, why doncha.
Anonymous said...
C'mon, use common sense. First a company to administer the test must be chosen, then applications go out, then tests are administered and scored, then letters go out and the academy starts which goes for 6 months. They would have to have a fresh class in the academy before
01 Jun 2011 in order to have a class graduate before 01 JAN 2012. So why is that a big surprise SCC when we know the applicants from the last testing process has been completely used up? Do you really think this City could have new applicants in the class before 01 JUN 11?
10/11/2010 02:02:00 PM
Not all of the applicants are hired off the list. There are around 40 left over from various appeals. The choosen vendor could push through a list of applicants to the academy in 60 days. If the mayor says so then it will happen. It ain't over until it is over. The chicago way.
Does 13th district (3rd watch) really need a robbery/mission car? Park car does more work.
Anyone hear about the crash in 016, are all coppers ok?
Sickofspending.com
OT: Any info on the PO's injured in crash in 016 today at Cumberland / Addison?? Lots of equipment flying in to the scene
The bids for the new police recruit test include promotional tests for Det and Sgt. The payout for one recruit test doesn't justify the work. The bids will all include promotional tests for 2011 along with the 2011 recruit test.
Dick and sgt lists are comming down in December. One more class of 30 for each in late November. No news here, but no promotions in 2011. New hires won't start the academy until 2012.
Anonymous said...
I had a chat with a guy with some years on the job and he said that when Mr. Washington was mayor, we had less officers on the street than we have now. So, I guess Shortshanks can whittle us down some more before he's done. Pretty soon, there will be articles in the paper about how old the officers at CPD are.
There is a rumor going around that there will be hundreds of officers retiring in November and a large group retiring in May of 2010. It might get much uglier before it starts to turn around.
It'll be fun in a few years, hundreds of recruits with a skeleton crew to train them.
When I came on in 1985 there were about 30,000 applicants. The academy was churning out about 1000 officers a year. There was a threat of a police layoff, but we were still staffed. Nothing like nowawdays.
The part about fewer officers on the street when Washington was mayor is false. We always had every beat car staffed, with squadrols 71, 72 and 73 manned on all three watches. We had foot patrols, park cars manned as well.
CAPS was Neighborhood Relations with a Sgt and two-three PO's .
There is no comparing Washington with our slimy current mayor. Harold Washington was a prince.
The trend among police agencies is doing more with less. Private security, cameras, and civilians are going to take over a lot of police functions. A lot of police services are going by the wayside, some with good reason. Time to cut the bloated bureaucracy.
Yes we do! Because Brian Dohery stands for Lower Taxes and not rewarding the 3rd generation welfare abusers.
Yes indeed- you should not be collecting Social Security and a Pension- Government workers like yourself should help us out refuse some of those extra benefits you get.
Yes indeed- you should not be collecting Social Security and a Pension- Government workers like yourself should help us out refuse some of those extra benefits you get.
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Um, dumbshit? Thanks to Rostenkowski, we already don't get Social Security. Thanks for playing asshole
Yes indeed- you should not be collecting Social Security and a Pension- Government workers like yourself should help us out refuse some of those extra benefits you get.
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We government workers DON'T receive social security... we only get a pension.
The part about fewer officers on the street when Washington was mayor is false. We always had every beat car staffed, with squadrols 71, 72 and 73 manned on all three watches. We had foot patrols, park cars manned as well.
CAPS was Neighborhood Relations with a Sgt and two-three PO's .
There is no comparing Washington with our slimy current mayor. Harold Washington was a prince.
Truth be told-good man
OT:Accident in 016 today involving CPD. Officers from ORD, and are pretty much okay, bruised up a little though!
Doherty votes the right way, but I never see him sober, not in the last 10 years that I've lived in 016.
Considering that the sgts list is barely at 125 I highly doubt it will be taken down. Especially since the department is broke they will not be eager to shell out a couple mil for a new one. Expect lawsuits if it is taken down. Since the department has never stopped before 360 on previous lists.
Not only do we not get social security, but we lose the spousal benefit that others get Spouses are entitled to 1/2 the amount of the amount their spouse is receiving from social security and thanks to Dan that also was cut out, costing me about $800.00 a month
Good Luck to You... Good Luck in Club Fed to Dickie
There's going to be a 3.8% Federal Sales Tax on All Real Estate Transactions to pay for the Universal Health Care. Consult your Tax and Real Estate professionals and for God's sake register and vote.
10/11/2010 09:27:00 AM
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NO, there isn't going to be a 3.8% tax on all real estate transactions. Honestly, why do people insist on perpetuating internet rumors without taking thirty seconds to fact-check?
There is going to be a tax on a very few wealthy individuals, on their investment profits. Not on residences. Not on the vast majority of people.
Go to Snopes.com, at the very least, and read a little about it before you spout false information.
so......when current caps officers are removed.....does the d/c cover them with an assignment to days, with a bullshit beat number, and then hide them again from 35th street?
to the citizens of Chicago...do you know why, really why, your calls to the police sometimes take half an hour, or an hour, or two hours, for an officer to respond..or maybe the police never get there.....is it worth the taxes you pay?.....are the political leaders, and their surrogates (department leaders) responsible?.....just asking
If it doesn't kill me it makes me stronger. Do not hire anybody and make me 99. I just bought new mirrors and started smoking cigars. I drink my Kool-Aid with Grey Goose. I'm not only the hair club president but i'm also a client hahahahahahahahaha.
The bids for the new police recruit test include promotional tests for Det and Sgt. The payout for one recruit test doesn't justify the work. The bids will all include promotional tests for 2011 along with the 2011 recruit test.
Dick and sgt lists are comming down in December. One more class of 30 for each in late November. No news here, but no promotions in 2011. New hires won't start the academy until 2012.
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DREAM ON. with what $$$
If a public employee who is qualified pensioner has paid into Social Security, why shouldn't he collect?
That was the Dumborats class warfare BS. Pandering to their fat, lazy, lie-on-their-big-fat-asses constituency about how unfair it is that someone that worked 2 jobs for 20 years each has 2 pensions while the do-nothings don't have any---other than the womb-to-tomb largess they live on for multiple generations.
If Social Security is broke, how about kicking the illegal immigrants off of it??
Captains are needed just like J-Feds stupid idea of 2 Assistant Superintendents. You need a tie breaker.
If they did due away with Captains, $900,000 at the most. You will need 75 more Lieutenants.
You don't need more lieutenants. Just take the ones hiding in units and headquarters and put them in patrol.
The lt assigned to the district and the watch is the watch commander and field lieutenant. The fillins are acting watch commander. NO two Lts assigned to the watch.
Cut tact lieutenants make the watch commanders fully accountable for the tact team performance. The tact lieutenant and tact teams are assigned to them by GO anyway.
In the event that watch commanders from different units/watches are butting heads, the district/incident commander makes the final call.
wait if CAPS is dead do I still get to wear my ribbon I got for it? If not I won't have any ribbons to wear...
Anonymous said...
The part about fewer officers on the street when Washington was mayor is false. We always had every beat car staffed, with squadrols 71, 72 and 73 manned on all three watches. We had foot patrols, park cars manned as well.
CAPS was Neighborhood Relations with a Sgt and two-three PO's .
There is no comparing Washington with our slimy current mayor. Harold Washington was a prince.
Truth be told-good man
10/11/2010 10:52:00 PM
Everyone was afraid of a black mayor. Instead he was very good to police and the city. He could not control the city counsel because of verdolyak. Washington never played games with police and there was plenty of manpower on the street.
Anonymous said...
Yes indeed- you should not be collecting Social Security and a Pension- Government workers like yourself should help us out refuse some of those extra benefits you get.
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You first.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2010/10/12/daley-to-add-hundreds-of-police-officers/
Excerpts:
The mayor said in a news release Tuesday [10/12/10] that by fall 2011, the city will have added as many as 830 officers to patrol the streets – through both reassignments of existing officers and the hiring of new Police Academy graduates.
The mayor’s 2011 budget calls for the addition of up to 200 new officers to the force, and to street patrols. They will graduate as part of two new police classes.
In addition, 111 officers will be moved from Chicago Alternative Policing Strategy community policing duties to the street within the next week. Already this year, 212 officers have moved from desk jobs to street duty, according to the mayor’s office.
A total of 314 new officers have been hired in the past year and a half, according to the mayor’s office.
At the debate at Wright College, Brian Doherty, the FOP choice for 10th Dist. State Senate said he wants to do away with goverment worker's pensions..... If the the Republicans do that at the state level, just watch the city pull police pensions...elect Republicans and that is what you get.
Republicans didn't get the CPD a contract or benefits years ago, and there is no way they are going to safeguard your pension of put in office..
Yeah FOP, go ahead and support Republics like Brian Doherty...you'll be out of a job soon enough
Most cops I know had to work a second or a third job to put their kids through school or to have something extra, the citypay was not enough. These part time jobs have to pay social security. I have 60 quarters paid in, but I lose 78% of the social security payment. And, i cannot get anything from my wifes social security, not the spousal benefit or death benefit. Not, it is not fair, but this is how the democrats shored up the fund years ago, on the backs of working people. Now, they give this money to immigrants who come here after the age of 60, they only have to work five years and the illegals are trying to collect. Drug addicts get disabiltiy payments. The socialist democrats way of redistributing the income.And, wait, the democrat's plan is to have social security needs tested for all citizens. So do not be so smug.
A total of 314 new officers have been hired in the past year and a half, according to the mayor’s office.
10/12/2010 01:14:00 PM
They may have been hired but with federal money. The recruits are to replace officers moved to mas transit and the airport. Net gain? zero. 60 recruits to graduate next month and hired for the airport. All smoke and mirrors. The current class of 118 recruits are actually to be used for the street.
yea ok, just like when watch secretaries were supposed to go back on the street in a beat car...all they did was list the watch sec as a park car or traffic car and they still worked inside.
This doesn't happen everywhere. Our Watch Secretary is the Radio Person/Watch Secretary/Desk Officer. They spend part of the watch doing all 3 jobs. If the radio room was near the desk, it would be workable.
At the debate at Wright College, Brian Doherty, the FOP choice for 10th Dist. State Senate said he wants to do away with goverment worker's pensions..... If the the Republicans do that at the state level, just watch the city pull police pensions...elect Republicans and that is what you get.
You are right I have been posting this very issue yet it never gets posted. There is a bill in congress to help our pension and Republicans wont let it come up for a vote.
The part about fewer officers on the street when Washington was mayor is false. We always had every beat car staffed, with squadrols 71, 72 and 73 manned on all three watches.
When I came on in 1985 there were about 30,000 applicants. The academy was churning out about 1000 officers a year. There was a threat of a police layoff, but we were still staffed. Nothing like nowawdays.
I have heard both accounts of this story. I'm talking about prior to 1985, they weren't really hiring much for a few years. And the layoff notices were not a threat, they went out and got rescinded, so says one of my co-workers. I've never heard an old timer bad mouth Mayor Washington, they all seem to have liked him.
Yes indeed- you should not be collecting Social Security and a Pension- Government workers like yourself should help us out refuse some of those extra benefits you get.
10/11/2010 10:27:00 PM
Then can I have all my money back for all the years I worked and Paid into SS before I became the Police. Can I also get the Money back I paid into after I became the Police because I work a lot of Part time jobs? Can I not Pay into SS anymore since I get a government pension? I'll Give up SS if I don't have to pay into to it anymore.
CAPS was simply "Public-Relations", i.e. BRAINWASHING PROPAGANDA of the general public. In this smoke & mirrors world, it did have it's place. Don't eliminate it entirely, but TRIM it to the BONE. Get the WATCHES fully staffed! Keep more UNIT CUTS coming!
If the the Republicans do that at the state level, just watch the city pull police pensions...elect Republicans and that is what you get.
I'm a Republican I agree we need to stop allowing pensions. Business people take chances if they fail or succeed.we have to create our own retirement why should we just give it to you.
Think outside the box.
"...Cut tact lieutenants make the watch commanders fully accountable for the tact team performance. The tact lieutenant and tact teams are assigned to them by GO anyway. ..."
BAD IDEA, and I do not work and never did work Tact. If you do that, you will get Rogue Tact Teams and scandals up the ass. You need a good, no non-sence old-school search warrant savey street boss Lieutenant in that spot.
Look at what happened in L.A. with their CRASH and OSS programs. Not enough supervision and...
Doherty woud be better than" Rickey Hollywood" Hendon.
RH says he does not want to put people in jail so he bought and kept an illegal hand gun after his home was burglarized.
RH says it's your fault if you talk out to a hoodlum.
Does RH know iof the 1st Amendment? Evidentally not.
Rh is also a sexist skunk, if he disagrees with a female, he starts the "her weave too tight."
This is why the west side is almost one big vacant lot of poor, poverty stricken, crime ravaged wasteland but you can be sure Rickey and Danny, congressman are getting theirs.
--used to support them, now I hate them and most say they do not want them as Mayor either.
First learn to spell you moron. Next both of his kids passed the academy on their own. Say what you want but Tobias never cut corners or bent the rules for recruits. He fired more recruits than any other superintendent. Lodding on the other hand is terrified of anything and everyone.
10/11/2010 03:42:00 PM
Man, you are not kidding. They really need to turn the Academy over to someone, anyone, other than Lodding. Anyone.
BAD IDEA, and I do not work and never did work Tact. If you do that, you will get Rogue Tact Teams and scandals up the ass. You need a good, no non-sence old-school search warrant savey street boss Lieutenant in that spot.
Maybe you never worked tact because you don't know how to fucking spell.
013th Dist Sergeant
...Maybe you never worked tact because you don't know how to fucking spell.
013th Dist Sergeant
10/12/2010 09:46:00 PM"
OK, sense and savvy, I was in a hurry, I had to run.
Wellll exxxxcuseeee meeeee.
I may never have worked Tact, but, I may outrank you and never got a clout promotion.
(Hint: That old cell phone plugged in the W.C.'s W.C. (water closet), in case the door lock breaks again. I'm there every once in a while.)
>>>I just pray to the Almighty that my neighborhood will hold its own and I can sell in a few years at a profit when I leave this hell hole.
10/11/2010 12:12:00 AM<<<
Isn't there something about a 3.8% Federal Real Estate Sales Tax coming in after the next elections to finance Obamacare.
019 warrior said...
wait if CAPS is dead do I still get to wear my ribbon I got for it? If not I won't have any ribbons to wear...
10/12/2010 04:57:00 AM
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Dude ....Bummer...
Hey same with me but I got the Attendance Ribbon..proud of it....so proud of it I hit the Medical to celebrate it!
Cheerio!
"...Cut tact lieutenants make the watch commanders fully accountable for the tact team performance. The tact lieutenant and tact teams are assigned to them by GO anyway. ..."
BAD IDEA, and I do not work and never did work Tact. If you do that, you will get Rogue Tact Teams and scandals up the ass. You need a good, no non-sence old-school search warrant savey street boss Lieutenant in that spot.
Look at what happened in L.A. with their CRASH and OSS programs. Not enough supervision and...
10/12/2010 07:05:00 PM
I've work tact and been on tact teams before you got on the job, Mr Know It All.
Try reading the General order and Patrol Divison Special Orders once in a while when you're not in a drunken stupor.
The WC is responsible for deploying tact teams to problem locations.
The tact lieutenant is usually not
around, but a WC is always around.
When shootings and TRR's occur the WC handles it, not the tact lt.
You just assume tact officers are all crooked and untrustworthy. You sound like a defense attorney.
You need good sgts to run each team moreso than a lieutenant.
I repeat, a tact lieutenant is a luxury not a necessity.
dump all those hidden secretary's for the watch.who have been hiding down stairs.some like 025 2ndwatch have five minutes on the job and has not worked the street. get out of there , then they wanna act like they run the district, hooking up there buddy's on the watch and screwing the working police' no bhull shit this is true. yeah i said it''
Doherty votes the right way, but I never see him sober, not in the last 10 years that I've lived in 016.
10/11/2010 11:15:00 PM
If you consider the Daley way "the right way." Doherty voted with Daley nearly 100% of the time. He even admits he voted with Daley on things he personally wasn't in favor of.
Agree on the drinking issue; the man needs serious help. It's sad, and probably why he's been phoning it in for years.
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