"Reallocation"
Police districts on Chicago's North Side would lose beat officers to South Side and West Side districts if the city were to reallocate cops based on the volume of 911 calls and backups for police service, a Chicago Sun-Times analysis has found.
Police Supt. Jody Weis is expected to unveil a reallocation plan before the end of the year. One of the factors in his politically sensitive decision will be whether there's an abundance of officers in districts based on calls for service, he has said. Weis hasn't identified the districts that will lose beat officers, how may cops will be shifted or any other factors he will use in the reallocation.
To measure calls for service and backups, the Sun-Times obtained a district-by-district comparison of 911 calls and of "radio assignments pending call events," which means the times there's no car available to respond to a call in a district.
Evidently, the Sun Times is pushing this line at the behest of someone. If they are using "calls for service" as the determining factor, they need to discount the following calls in any "study" to move resources:
- All "man with a gun calls" that result in a 19-Paul;
- All anonymous calls of dope sales with ZERO descriptions;
- All landlord tenant disputes;
- All calls regarding "social ills," including a child not going to school, a child disrespecting someone, putting out the boy/girl friend of the minute;
- All Domestic Disturbances where (1) police have already responded twice, (2) police have spent a documented total of 15 minutes or more at the location, (3) a referral to a social agency has been given and (4) NO arrest has been made in the previous incidents or a NON-appearance by the victim at Domestic Court is known;
We're sure we forgot one or two and the readers will add them in. But this is a ridiculous measure to allocate resources. Here's some truly stupid circular logic by an alder-asshole:
- The city's 911 data show certain areas of the city are "extremely quiet," Beale said. "We don't want to disturb that. However, if we can pull some of those resources to make some communities just as safe and secure as those other communities, we have a responsibility to do that. If you have officers sitting idle all day not responding to any calls and you have other sections where they can't even keep up with the calls, that's a disservice to the residents of this city."
So he wants to take away the very thing that makes these communities safe and quiet? Typical democrat thinking - "if you have more than us, let's take some away from you, give it to us (even though we didn't earn it) and let's all be poor and miserable together!" That's progressive thinking for you.
Newsflash for Beale - you're going to have to move more than police resources to make those neighborhoods safe and secure.
Newsflash for taxpayers - you're about to get fucked. Again. Billion dollar deficits at the local level. Tens of billions in state debt. 10% unemployment in Illinois and nowhere to go but down.
Get out if you can. Get a gun if you can't.
Newsflash for Beale - you're going to have to move more than police resources to make those neighborhoods safe and secure.
Newsflash for taxpayers - you're about to get fucked. Again. Billion dollar deficits at the local level. Tens of billions in state debt. 10% unemployment in Illinois and nowhere to go but down.
Get out if you can. Get a gun if you can't.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 8:31 AM
177 Comments:
This is one VERY FUCKED UP Department. These asshat bosses/politicians really make you want to come to work.
Don't forget about Person with a Gun that end I'm 1B.
Up north in 016 we pay the highest amount of taxes, tax bills of 5 figures are not unusual.
The Police aren't called that much up here because we aren't animals who do violence for little reason and we don't call the police because a kid sassed his mother.
Down south and west the only taxes that seem to be paid by the average person are sales tax on cheetoes and red pop and excise taxes on ciggies and malt liqour.
Of course, our Alderman--who can always seem to be found at the tavern on his own barstool doesn't seem to give a shit.
The other posters are right--the PD could innundate 7,8,6,11,3,4 etc with coppers and it wouldn't solve a thing.
CAN I GET AN EVENT NUMBER?
"There are sections of the city that are completely quite", and it happens to be all the non minority area; imagine that. SSC you are right "the democrat motto" lets take away from the people doing the right thing and reward the people who continue to do the wrong thing. Liberalism at its best.
They never figure in the X factor.
even the slow districts have manpower issues already---- if they want more people working in the fast districts then open up some bid spots--- the guy up in sauganash paying 7000 dollars a year in property taxes has to wait for hours to see the police but if someone calls little boo's mama a hoe, they get 5 cars there in a matter of minutes---- is anyone even going to get time due next year for periods 6-9 ??????
What else we do in the name of "fairness",
Pay more taxes in the "quite areas" to give "troubled areas" new park; (while we have to raise funds to improve the quite areas)
Pay more taxes in the "quite area" to give new schools to "troubled areas"
Give more money (taxes) to the "troubled areas" to have parents walk there kids to school
Give out free phones to the "troubled areas" while requiring the "quite areas" pay more fees to cover those phones
Pay more taxes in the "quite area" to give new sidewalks in the "troubled areas"
Demand/require businesses in "quite areas" pay for security and close early because "troubled areas" people are causing trouble at the "quite areas" business
Pay more taxes in the "quite area" to have more firehouses in the "troubled areas"
Pay more taxes to give an increase on the "troubled areas" to have an increase on there link card
The pay outs to the "troubled areas" are endless and the "quite areas" continue to pay for it all, why not give up their safety as well.
Nobody Move!!! This house of cards is beginning to shake!!!!
Signed,
A hard working 2 year guy happily pushing a 1st watch beat car on the west side, with no hatred to to other young guys on MSF or TRU.
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I'm glad you're a 2 year guy happily pushing a 1st watch beat car. Since you're still kinda' new, I'm going to let you in on a little secret. There are keys for the cars in the station. Get a set of keys, put them in the ignition, start the car, and drive it. IT BEATS PUSHING THAT HUNK OF JUNK AROUND ALL NIGHT!
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LMAO Thanks for the tip old spice!!
Don't worry...Only the law abiding tax payers will get hurt!
2oo more police, spread thru the worst districts wont be noticed, except in the districts where they are pulled from. The calls or crimes wont go down, they will just get reported faster. That could be done by utilizing the 311 system more efficiently. Run a few public service commercials about using 311 and call it a day.
If you want to really decrease crime in those neighborhoods, cut the welfare checks in half and watch the bloodsuckers go to another state. Crime will decrease. Problem solved again.
Ironically, the perception in the 'hood is that ALL the PO PO are in the white neighborhoods and don't care about the 'hood. When the truth of the matter is all the PO PO are always in the 'hood looking for the bad guys.. the 'hood already has LOTS of police attention... much more than the allegedly problem free "white" areas of the city (if there are any!)
They don't want to disturb the quiet communities?
Taking their resources away doesn't "disturb" the communities?
In some of the worst ghetto areas in this city you could put 2 coppers on every block and you'd still have an inordinately high ammount of calls for police service compared to these "quiet" communities. These fuckin idiots call 911 for almost anything and everything.
Why not address that and leave the resources alone in the "quiet" a.k.a white communities? Of course that wouldn't appease the revruns etc.
This department, under JFraud, is completely out of control and out of touch with reality.
The solution for these quiet neighborhoods is to call 911 for anything and everything. . . . just like they do in the hood. you can still take care of the problem yourself like adults normally do, just let the police 19B or 19P it. just make that call.
We need more people in 8, especially on the west side of the district. Garfield Ridge and Clearing are getting more gang activity and street crime/burglaries because there are not enough cars available to patrol adequately and response time to 911 calls has been a major issue for the last 15 years.
It is easier to hold what you have than to take back what you have lost.
Disregarding all the calls mentioned by SCC makes no sense. Those calls are some of the biggest drains on police resources and they aren't going to go away. The areas of the city that will lose officers are not going to suddenly flare up in senseless violence, just as the areas that receive additional police are not going to become quiet. All in all it is a proper husbanding of available assets and may keep some PO from getting shot in the ghetto areas. Everyone talks about not enough back up. Well here is an attempt to provide additional backup. I know, I know hire more personnel. A much better idea I admit, but that can't happen overnight.
I work in a south side district … And it’s always busy, re-allocating resources is the smart thing to do. However, the author brings up a good point about leaving the nice districts high and dry.
I have the solution! How about creating a mobile unit or some king of saturation force that goes into these ghettos and weeds out crime before it happens! Oh, and let these pre-madonnas answer some radio calls to take the weight of the beat guys.
I don’t care home many pissers and drinkers MSF locks up. Why does ever special unit find it beneath them to answer radio calls?
Hot off the presses at 35th street- TACT Teams to Areas to act as citywide unit. Northside Teams will goto 010,011, 015,025,and southside Teams goto 003,004,005,006,007,008. Commnader of 004th District has been picked to lead this new unit. GEU will report to Homan Square. Some GEU teams will be disbanded. Only 10 teams will goto Homan. Area gun teams to be placed also in Homan to work with CAGE teams. District rapid beat cars to be reassigned to fast districts on a day to day basis. City will be divided north/south. North side cops will be sent to west side and south side cops sent south. This is JFLED's swan song. He's trying to curry favor with Ald. Beales and reverends to try and save his job or at least get an extension of a year or two. Headquarters is only concerned with everything SOUTH of Madison street, ie shootings,violence,etc. Slower districts up north will be running a skeleton crew at night. Protect your family. This plan is on the drawing board right now and being finalized as I type this.
Off topic, is anyone able to verify that everyone's favorite merit Lt., Ray-Ray, has been returned to swat? So does swat now have two lieutenants assigned there?
Is that something they can do by contract? If somebody spends 15-20 years in the ghetto waiting until they had enough seniority to bid to a "quiet" district, only to be sent right back to the shit, isn't that something that violates the contract?
Instead of moving police around they need to move residents around. Like most of the west and south side could be relocated to the bad lands in South Dakota. It has lots of room and nothing to steal. I'm sure they will still be killing each other and selling dope but who will care?
"Get out if you can. Get a gun if you can't." And I know the perfect ones for the job. Kahr P380 and its big brother, The PM9. Once you complete the factory designated break-in period (200 rounds), you are bleeping golden! These are two of the best concealed pistols ever invented. Not cheap but you get what you pay for.
I say lets charge $1.00 for every 911 call made. It can be charged to a land or cell pnone. This will stop those wasting our time with BULLSHIT calls. I would be more than willing to pay a buck to call 911 because I know it's a real call. This will also help pay for police and the fire department to get working cars, computers, tasers, and everything else that is needed. The next mayor should jump on this idea to gain more revenue. It's kinda like if you call 411 you get charged so how hard would it be to make this happen????
Just another way Weis continues to show that he does not care about us or if we have lives...does he really think the rellocated officers will do anything??? 19p and ride out jobs..that's all he'll get!
Wow, so those of us who work, pay taxes and are required to live in this city will now get even less? Sounds fair, does it not? I hope my family will never have a need to call the police, who knows how long it will take for a response... Thank you Jody, on the way out, you found a way to fuck us just on last time.
Relo J-Fled to another city !
O.D. PO-PO SAYS:
worth a try, but I already get next to NO Police Service out in 022 now. It's probably one of the few places where people don't call the police for B.S., and they still don't show up. I guess now we'll get less than none. Time for a Mt. Greenwood Park Rally People. Our Alderwoman wont do anything about it. Time for her to get launched too, and indicted.
They already striped 16 and 17 to fill in the missiong officers at the airport. I don'y think either district recieved any replacments. So thay are just reducing the manpower this way. In addition, 16 might loose another 20 or so.
I guess the lt and captain are going to start making wagon runs.
Well I will bet if they send any extra to 004 they will not be on 433's beat.
And the only thing they can find to move is beat officers? Lets run the numbers again, please:
279 beats citywide. 5 officers per day per beat, for a total of 1395 officers per day. Multiply by 1.17 to get an average of 1 sergeant per 6 officers, and then again by 1.5 to account for RDOs and excusable absences.
Total officers and sergeants required to more-or-less fully staff beats and field supervisors: 2450. Add in perhaps 1050 more for rapid response (2 watches) and supervisors citywide, for a grand total of 3500ish to fully staff field units on watches.
How many fucking sworn people are there in the CPD not humping a beat or supervising beat cars? The answer is obviously "most". Get the bodies somewhere else!
I don't care how many police you put in Englewood or the West Side, it's not going to change a thing.
You make some very good, and probably valid points on the type of calls for service that should not be counted. I think the criteria should be violent crime, burglary and auto theft only. However, this will also cause for manpower to be moved. There was a police study done in St. louis a few years ago where they withdrew all police patrols in some high crime areas and in low crime areas. The police went in only to answer serious calls for service. The result was no increase and no decrease in crime reported in either area. There has beenplenty orf research done in this area. I hope they use some of it to make decisions and not rely on gut feelings or political pressure.
I live in 10 sector of 008, and am constantly telling people especially on beats 811,812 to call police no matter what if you want to keep police services! We have 3 dedicated cars thanks to Alderman Zalewski and Commander Kup in 008,beats 811,812,859 those coppers do a great job and we appreciate you protecting the homeland and not the out of control animals!
We are truly f*cked! With Daley leaving and "Gotta run" J-Fled getting ready to flee from the angry villagers himself, there will be no one for the voters to take it out on. Hoping for a savior to appear out of the worthless group of mayoral wannabe's is a joke.
This will not be the only catastrophic change that will be foisted on us before election day. You northside taxpayers had better all get yourselves security systems, services, cameras and heavy-duty doors and locks, because even the dumbest criminals in the ghetto will realize it'll be easier and more profitable to start criminalizing those neighborhoods that will be left without adequate police coverage.
If u live in a "peaceful" area, buy guns. The bigger and longer the better. You'll need it.
PRESENCE keeps crime down. Take that away and criminals see easy pickings.
What happens when you reduce manpower (police presence) and thus increase response time?
That's the formula the criminals are going to follow, and the citizens better get used to being victimized while the ghetto indecency gets more attention.
SCC said...
"if you have more than us, let's take some away from you, give it to us (even though we didn't earn it) and let's all be poor and miserable together!"
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Sounds like the Obama/Democratic plan for a socialistic society in it's purest form.
How's that Hope and Change working out for everyone?
Taxpaying citizens one word....REVOLT!
Sounds like the PERFECT use for all those bodies in MSF and TRU.
Or will the "elite" be spared the embarrassment of being tied to the radio?
If you haven't already had the "pleasure" of experiencing a good, old-fashioned CPD fucking, it sounds like you guys and gals without much seniority are in for being shafted balls-deep and dry.
And remember, when push come to shove, and per our contract: we are little more than chess pieces in blue that can be moved at the department's discretion*** to "maintain operational needs as deemed necessary to meet the goals of the department"...or something along those lines. This clause in our contract is purposely vague for reasons just like this. Catering to the whim and fancy of the likes of Beale is just ONE of the problems with this methodology of reallocation, however.
Another failed CPD experiment coming soon to a district near you...
*** Does not apply to clout babies
This topic is the exact reason I tell my wife, family, and neighbors to call for anything and everything. Please don't misunderstand me, I am not suggesting to waist fellow POs time, but if you are going to allocate based on frequency, than handling our own neighborhood problems or calling the district for a "favor" contributes to the smoke and mirrors like reallocating resources.
SCC you are correct that the second part of the story needs to be told, the fact that a high percentage of those calls are garbage. Anyone who has worked in any of those neighborhoods knows their way to handle anything is to dial 911.
Sorry, but the reason certain neighborhoods are safer and more secure are part and parcel to the type of residents within the neighborhood. 2211 isn't crawling with squad cars and the neighborhood is fairly decent. Go to beat 631 or 623 and there are police cars everywhere and the crime doesn't stop. Jody, bad idea. So take away what police are left in the decent tax paying neighborhoods and then give the police service to those who clearly don't want the service and pay none of the taxes. Another example of why society is crumbling.
Heh...
Reallocation?
No need for it...
Let the soon coming runnin' dog rev'run & alderfool cocked hat security contractors handle the "garden spots" of the city since the mean insensitive Po-leece have no real interest in being bogged down with the libtard, yellow-pinky, perpetual victimology bullshit of "establishing a rapport" with the current crop of mouth breathing wereclowns holding vast tracts of the city hostage.
You want Police? Take your neighborhoods back. We'll gladly lend a hand.
Heh... Who are we kidding? Crying for the Police to "do something" then crying about how that "something" is done is a growth industry unto itself in certain areas of the city.
How about "reallocating" Police to hunt down the roving bands of two legged dogs?
Meh... That would require letting the Po-leece get their mojo back and the "Catered To Constituents" will piss an imperial bitch.
Bad enough there are "Catered To Constituents" being allowed to watch the pod cameras in 011.
Fucking disgusting...
Now let's get back to the real issue of how the people of Chicago have managed to allow a stuttering, moronic half-wit to
steal an estimated $12 to $15 billion dollars from the tax payer till over the course of 21 years.
well this actually bodes well for the 008th district. it is so damn big and has the highest call volume of any district in the city. more man power in 008 will let more cars go out west to where all the coppers live. I know, the bosses will say stay east and go get em bad guys but knowing coppers they will go west to where the good people live. 022, 016 its not a good thing, but if you live on the west end of 008 it could be very good.
call city hall etc
Actually heard this on WBBM780 that "officers will be taken from northside districts and sent to the west and southsides". Is the media acknowledging that theres a crime profile? How will the high paying tax base react?
Since lots of cops live in 016, let them watch their own nieghborhoods. The crime in 016 is usually coppers kids acting ghetto.
My house is worth dog crap now, but thank god they raised my property taxes so the can throw money at the situation and finally solve the problem.
WTF!!!!! Where the hell are our aldermen!!! The aldermen in the tax paying wards seem to be the quietest! The garbage in englewood get new light posts, flower pots, park pools, more police ECT... WTF!!! I'm in the 23rd ward (west side of 008) start doing shit for us. Speak up you coward! The reverends and black aldermen aren't afraid to. But, I understand, you don't want to ruffle any feathers because that might ruin your polictical agenda.
O.T., story on breaking news site about a former copper who was supposedly in bed with some major dope dealers. I knew this guy when he came on the job but hadn't seen him in about 15yrs but it's hard to believe. Always was a good copper and a decent guy. Nothing surprises me anymore these days.
If it's true, I hope he rots!
lets "even out" the city!
I like working up north, where it's closer to home and a bit more civilized. If I'm relocated, I guarantee, as many P/O's will, that I won't do jack shit! Aldercreatures can kiss my ass! Honest tax-paying citizens losing police presence to babysit the savages who admire to kill us? FOP, thanks for nothing, assholes...
It's about time. It wouldn't have happened if Daley were running for office, but like the true coward that he is, he's dropped it in someone else's lap. I expect that when this new reallocation plan comes to fruition, we'll all be seeing a goodly number of new retirements and/or resignations added to this year's total. We all know there are plenty of police who work north of Chicago's 'Mason/Dixon' line (Madison st.) who have never worked in some of our busier and emotionally exhausting districts who have no intentions of going there. Hopefully, all those slow districts named in the Sun Times article have stocked up on PAR forms to handle it.
They've cut our numbers through attrition and now they want to thin the ranks of the decent areas even more. I work up north and we are in a rap quite often. They've thinned the herd enough, it's time to do some hiring and if we're short on the West/South sides of the city, send the new officers there. Some of the beats in 016 and 017 are nearly the size of the 15th District already.
I might be wrong, but I think the District I work in has about 80 or 100 fewer officers than a few years ago. The crime violent crime rate may be less, but there are plenty of property crimes to attend to. I can see it now, we'll have 2 cars to a sector coming soon.
please send us some detectives from area 3 and 5. we need the help in area 1 and area 2.
This is going to be a recipe for disaster. Big, buff, prison type young men that aren't interested in going to lockup for the evening and you only have maybe a total of 1 or 2 cars that can respond to the 10-1. The size of the responding officers is getting smaller every year and the size of the department is getting smaller by the year. There are going to be more police shootings because of this. The pig pile keeps getting smaller and the felons keep getting larger. What is a smaller officer to do when the offender outweighs him/her by over 100 pounds and is using this advantage fully? Get permanently disabled trying to subdue a hulk sized monster?
We should put this fool Beavers in a squad and let him get his ass kickwed a few times. Bet he'd change his tune in a hurry.
I have 6 years on the job and let me tell you something... we wouldnt need to deploy officers from the north side districts if the south side districts did their jobs. i worked in 009 and i was a worker who always took jobs and coded them without sitting on them. there are so many lazy dogs in this job that it is a disgrace. we took this job to serve this city and its people and if your not doing that just quit. this summer when it starts picking up the criminals better watch out cause here comes the boom!!!!for you idiots that couldnt get that it means i dont play around.
Talk about: "Typical democrat thinking - "if you have more than us, let's take some away from you, give it to us (even though we didn't earn it) and let's all be poor and miserable together!" That's progressive thinking for you."
Congressman Danny Davis in his announcement that he is running for Mayor of Chicago said,
"WE WILL BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN RIGH AND POOR." (Translation, we will get more money out of the working population who don't vote for me and give it to the non-working population who would vote for me.)
"WE WILL FIND NEW SOURCES OF REVENUE"
(Translation, New Taxes!!)
Typical Democratic Thinking! They get away with it because only 25% of cop vote, but 100% pay taxes.
works out good for 008.... how are they going to do this?? is this gonna be a seniority thing? how do they determine which officers will be dumped from the current district and go to the new district? im guessing that they can only reassign people from units that will be disbanded(gang enforcement) or it will just be ppo's. anyone have any idea how they would swing this? I though they couldnt dump p.os out of districts they are assigned to.
SCC
YOU HIT THE PROBLEM RIGHT IN THE HEAD.
THE DEPARTMENT HAS PLENTY OF SO CALLED COMPUTER SPECIALIST AND PEOPLE WITH MANAGEMENT DEGREES YET WHEN THEY DRAW UP THE NUMBERS THEY COME UP WITH AN ASS BACKWARD METHOD!
WHAT GOLDSTEINS CREW DOING BECAUSE THEY STILL HAVE NOT COME THROUGH ON A PREDICTION!
SINCE I PAID FOR MY DEGREE THEY MAY WANT TO ALSO ADDRESS:
SIZE OF DISTRICT AND RESPONSE TIMES
AMOUNT OF AREA COVERED BY OTHER DEPARTMENTS U.I.C./ UNIV OF CHICAGO/ METRA/ PRIVATE SECURITY ETC ETC.
UNIT SUCH AS TRU YADD-YADDA- YADDA
SHOULD BE SENT BACK BECAUSE THEY SKEW THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE DEPLOYED IN AN AREA.
AMOUNT OF BLUE LIGHT CAMERAS
AMOUNT A FALSE OR BULLSHIT CALLS
BUT J-FLED IS TRYING TO RE-NEW HIS CONTRACT AND THE WORD IS HE IS RETURNING ALDERMANS CALL MUCH FASTER NOW SINCE HIS ASS IS ON THE LINE!
People of Sauganash, Edison Park, Morgan Park, Forest Glen, Lincoln Square, Lincoln Park, etc.... it is time for you to speak up and do something. Protest. Call your alderman. Do something and do not let them get away with it!
For the love of God, if police resources are taken away from decent neighborhoods, then the criminals will set up shop there.
What troubles me the most is how complacent people are. I told my brother in law who lives in Sauganash and his response? "We live in Sauganash, we don't have too much crime around here and crime won't increase here because it's such a great neighborhood and a lot of cops live here".
What stupid thinking. Citizens of Chicago, you better do something. Or else even good neighborhoods will be infested with crime and Detroit here we come.
Sounds like a job for the Predictive Analytics Group!!! Perhaps Mr. Goldfinger could come up with a wonderful holiday recipe for crushing crime. Maybe start with an OLS Regression base, add a good amount of univriate analysis and a dash of Carnegie Mellon. Whallah!!! Crime solved.
010 dust guys shot robbery offender in 9 this afternoon. Po's ok. Bad guys on the loose.
You know, if they truly looked into the types of calls that 911 receives, they would be pulling coppers OUT of the south and west side districts!
I work the North-side and the majority of daily calls are domestic. But if you looked at each call, you would find that over 95% of the time the police are not needed.
Your kid won't go to school....it's a domestic. Your kid "disrespecting you?" Call 911, it's a domestic. Hell, the last one I went to, the alleged victim was screaming that hubby was banging on the apartment door.....from the outside! She wanted a report and wanted him arrested. At the first sign that she wouldn't get her way, she starts threatening me and my partner with a law suit.
After a few more minutes of talking, she admitted that she already has 4 case reports on domestic battery going back as far as July of this year. When asked if she ever pursued the matter in court, "did you get an order of protection?", "did you try and get a warrant on him?", the answers were "Ah, no. I been busy".
Anyone hear any rumors about the number of applicants? I just started hearing some advertisements over the radio a few days ago. Guess they aren't reaching their expected total of 45,000....
Fewer COPS in OUR neighborhoods.
But, we will have:
MORE REVENUE WORKERS.
MORE RED LIGHT CAMERAS.
MORE PARKING METERS.
MORE FLOWER BOXES.
MORE AND MORE TAXES, FEES AND FINES.
Would any Mayoral Candidate care to run on the platform of giving the workng people in this town a break? (or is it, brake?)
Just heard about this and was able to find it. It seems that JP wies, tina skahill, tracey ladner and several members of IAD are being sued by a 32yr retired detective for conspiracy against him. i will put a link to it below but its pretty damning against iad. hopefully it works out for this detective as it seems they really jerked this guy around.
http://207.41.16.133/rfcViewFile/10cv7507.pdf
Why bother? Most of the time the victim doesn't want anything done. They just want us to show up so they can yell and scream at whoever they called on.
And just imagine that this does happen. Coppers are pulled out of the North side districts and sent to the south and west side districts. Now all of a sudden you have a big increase of police presence, one that is not going away after a few weeks or months. All those coppers start doing their job out there and you know what the reaction will be from all those "fine" citizens?
They will be screaming: 1)Racial profiling. Let's face it, the North side is filled with mostly white coppers. 2)Abuse. See previous statement.
If the citizens in good, decent, safe neighborhoods don't do anything about it, then they deserve what they get. If this plan goes through, then the shithead criminals will invade the Northwest side and North side of Chicago.
This is also part of all this really silly, "Deployment Locations". Little boxes inside Police Districts, some taking in parts of two or three beats, where the Watch Commanders have to send units and keep track of activity there. This is to justify the Predictive Analytics Group reason for being. It is also perhaps to get away from the idea that any neighborhood has a right, taxpaying or not, to have a constant police presence there.
Again, the Dems screw the working people in this town, because we don't bother to vote.
Tally's Corner Newsflash for fire and police - state and city bankruptcy in 2012. All labor contracts thrown out. Retiree pension benefits reduced by 50%. Get out while you can and don't forget your gun.
only way to stop crime in certain areas is to bring in the bulldozers and wrecking balls
worked in 002 and 018
crime rate down at Robert Taylor
and cabrini green
no crime in quiet areas means
civilized areas and we need the police to keep it that way
beat cars , rapiid response , tactical , gang units , tru and msf in 7th district
is the crime gone in 7 , I didn't think so
it doesn't matter how many police are assigned , you have to get rid of criminal element
Ot. Finaly an arrest off a pod video. Only it was for stealing the pod 2 WEEKS EARLIER!!!!!
in 16 , west end of 8 and 22 there are less calls for service
no calls about baby daddies and baby mommas , kids not going to school , phony man with gun calls,phony gang disturbances ,
adult men drinking on the corners all day long , loud music from cars,drug dealing all day long
police arrive at half these calls and no complainants , when they make anarrrest the police are racists . a few of our future mayoral canidates have accused the police of racial profiling when stopped for traffic violations
officers answer radio calls , write reports on every crime , nothing on view and most important go home safe to your family
send the Northsiders to the South and West Side. I'd love to see em REALLY earn their money for doing what we have to do every day..
The Chicago Lawn District on the Southwest Side -- one of the city's largest districts -- was the busiest in the city in terms of 911 calls. Other districts with large numbers of 911 calls and RAP events were South Chicago, Englewood, Harrison and Grand-Central.
--Sorry all but 008 has a mixed population of people and has been in need of help for a long long time.
Put our officers where they're needed most. This isn't only about preventing violent crimes, but also about alleviating the stress upon the officers working the busiest districts. Give them a break already.
"Street Talk" today was a lot of "I don't know, we'll look into it" type of answers. Not one concrete no bullshit answer. And did we expect any different? Not I.
At least this one was on the clock, unlike jfled's dog & pony show right after he got hired. That was an hour of my life wasted. I could have watched Andy Griffith reruns instead.
Let's see. Mt. Greenwood has one car to protect the taxpayers. And now they will have ????????????
what the fu k this guy is a ass. this department is going to the dogs ( ghetto) fast. Anyone moved don't do a FUCKN thing.
"However, if we can pull some of those resources to make some communities just as safe and secure as those other communities, we have a responsibility to do that"
its not the amount of police in an area that makes it safe, its the people who live in the community that make it safe. you can put every cop in the city in area 2 and it still wouldn't be safe. there is no reason just because i live in a safe neighborhood that the police get sent away. I dont see this working at all.
I'm not a cop but a frequent visitor and I'm very pro-police. I will be willing to help form a protest against Jody weis and those directly below them if this occurs. I've lived in this city for 50+ years and I'll be damned if I'm going to lose yet another city service. I am a part of the large business district in downtown Chicago and I along with other business owners down here have a lot of money to throw around and TAKE AWAY! None of us are happy and we will be heard.
There are some cops running for Alderman in a few wards.
Who are they?
What do they say to the public?
Can they be counted on if elected?
We need to vote.
If you want some laughs, go to suntimes.com and look at the comments for the article. There are some real police haters, clueless people and some people that actually believe it will do good.
I have a solution. Since the reverends are getting what they want... how about taking care of the north side Catholics!
Sounds like some "robin hood" shit!
Take from the haves and give to the have nots and bust outs!
That's what ya get for working hard to earn a living in this shitty city!
Da Pelon!
Should i move to the getto?
Take into consideration the bs calls and do not base these decisions solely on the number of calls. Why, because most no siders dont call the police to discipline our children, call in bogus man with guns, bs fights, people are arguing, need assistance from the el, req. supervisor just because I can!!etc etc just to get the police to come to their area.
Or have the police come out because I have no transportation.
Maybe we should start calling for every little nuisance since we pay the highest taxes!!
Re evaluate the 911 calls and code them immed.
Sun-Times Headline:
FEWER
COPS ON
NORTH SIDE?
What can we do to help?
Don't work 99 on Third and First Watches.
ALWAYS call for a backup if you even get a smell, inkling or hair on the back of the neck feeling you might need it. Let them go into NO CARS AVAILABLE as soon as possible as often as possible.
Back each other up and go down on the air doing it.
Stay safe, show the powers that be we need more police in our districts, especially where we live.
Isn't that profiling?
JEFFERSON PARK IS GETTING FUCKED UP
I would like to ask the FOP two questions,
1)What the hell are you guy's doing?
2)Why are you not fighting for Officer's basic rights?
I MUST live in the city, fine I accepted that, but that was when the city could provide the most basic essentials for living.
Lets look at the facts:
City Officials or relatives there of have "borrowed"/Taken Money from my pension and now it's way underfunded.
You raised my property tax recently almost 1800.00.
My kids school is so over-crowded when they eat in the lunchroom some students have to sit on the floor just to have room to eat.
I have to pay a "workbook" fee for no workbooks at the school. The kids get copies of copies of a copy of a workbook page, and that is usually unledgable.
Park programs are a joke, if you can get in them, good luck, if your not on the computer at 8am kiss it goodbye, 200 daycamp openings for 2000 kids.
How can anyone raise a family in this city?
I know, quit my job, go on public aid, get free housing, get into the best schools, get free day care, free health care, free food, free school, true I wont have a pension, but the way things look now, working my ass off wont get me one either.
Come on FOP, do something..Remember Karma!!! If you sell us out, I hope you collect one check when you retire. Yes, thats harsh, but obviously you need motivation down there! I really hope you don't believe your family is better then mine or any other P.O., you have been choosen to represent our Family's best interests, you have failed so far, don't think you can slap us in the face and get away with it. KARMA
Reallocation = fuck the people that pay taxes and work for a living.
This is Weis's parting shot to the working tax paying citizens. Well here's mine- Fuck you you little gnome.
Anonymous said...
Is that something they can do by contract? If somebody spends 15-20 years in the ghetto waiting until they had enough seniority to bid to a "quiet" district, only to be sent right back to the shit, isn't that something that violates the contract?
11/22/2010 10:40:00 AM
No. Call your clout.
Jody is fucking idiot
While I agree with what is being said... For crying out loud... If you can't spell then look it up because you're making us look like idiots when you spell "quiet" as "quite"
Sure we know what you mean but anyone on this job who cannot even spell the basic words needs another line of work!
Anonymous said...
Hot off the presses at 35th street- TACT Teams to Areas to act as citywide unit. Northside Teams will goto 010,011, 015,025,and southside Teams goto 003,004,005,006,007,008. Commnader of 004th District has been picked to lead this new unit. GEU will report to Homan Square. Some GEU teams will be disbanded. Only 10 teams will goto Homan. Area gun teams to be placed also in Homan to work with CAGE teams. District rapid beat cars to be reassigned to fast districts on a day to day basis. City will be divided north/south. North side cops will be sent to west side and south side cops sent south. This is JFLED's swan song. He's trying to curry favor with Ald. Beales and reverends to try and save his job or at least get an extension of a year or two. Headquarters is only concerned with everything SOUTH of Madison street, ie shootings,violence,etc. Slower districts up north will be running a skeleton crew at night. Protect your family. This plan is on the drawing board right now and being finalized as I type this.
11/22/2010 10:37:00 AM
This is almost the opposite of what Ernie Brown said today at Street Talk. Ernie said nothing was finalized, it all is in the air, blah blah blah.
You mean that Ernie Brown could have been bulljiving us all?
Anonymous said...
Hot off the presses at 35th street- TACT Teams to Areas to act as citywide unit. Northside Teams will goto 010,011, 015,025,and southside Teams goto 003,004,005,006,007,008. Commnader of 004th District has been picked to lead this new unit. GEU will report to Homan Square. Some GEU teams will be disbanded. Only 10 teams will goto Homan. Area gun teams to be placed also in Homan to work with CAGE teams. District rapid beat cars to be reassigned to fast districts on a day to day basis. City will be divided north/south. North side cops will be sent to west side and south side cops sent south. This is JFLED's swan song. He's trying to curry favor with Ald. Beales and reverends to try and save his job or at least get an extension of a year or two. Headquarters is only concerned with everything SOUTH of Madison street, ie shootings,violence,etc. Slower districts up north will be running a skeleton crew at night. Protect your family. This plan is on the drawing board right now and being finalized as I type this.
11/22/2010 10:37:00 AM
There is no way they will kill the tact teams in the districts. The tact teams are the aldermen and commander's babies. Every district needs them to bring the BS numbers and do the BS details. Tact teams are too political to be taken away from the politicians. Besides there are plenty of traveling teams already like TRU, GEU, MSF, Gun teams, NARC. etc etc.
Thats ok...i'll police my own neighborhood! Burglarize or home invade me and you'll have an M4 up ur ass!!!!
Maybe we need to call for police service in 016, then we'll be counted.
Disregarding all the calls mentioned by SCC makes no sense. Those calls are some of the biggest drains on police resources and they aren't going to go away. The areas of the city that will lose officers are not going to suddenly flare up in senseless violence, just as the areas that receive additional police are not going to become quiet. All in all it is a proper husbanding of available assets and may keep some PO from getting shot in the ghetto areas. Everyone talks about not enough back up. Well here is an attempt to provide additional backup. I know, I know hire more personnel. A much better idea I admit, but that can't happen overnight.
11/22/2010 10:25:00 AM
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You are drinking WAY TOO MUCH coolaid!
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!! The PODS have finally netted their first big crime clear up. They caught the guy that stole the POD in the 10th District!
This City is a sitcom just waiting to be put on paper. If I could write well I would chronicle this fiasco they call a City.
I'm calling for everything now. Gonna get my $ worth, damnit!
Anonymous said...
"Get out if you can. Get a gun if you can't." And I know the perfect ones for the job. Kahr P380 and its big brother, The PM9..."
11/22/2010 10:48:00 AM
Thanks for your input, Mr. Kahr. Now go away.
They could put the entire department on the south and west sides and the animals will still destroy everything in their path.
Anonymous said...
"I say lets charge $1.00 for every 911 call made. It can be charged to a land or cell phone..."
11/22/2010 10:49:00 AM
You'll get the same arguments they made when they talked about requiring auto insurance. "This will be a burden on the poor people. They are the ones who need their vehicles the most and can afford it the least."
Blah, blah, blah.
Anonymous said...
Off topic, is anyone able to verify that everyone's favorite merit Lt., Ray-Ray, has been returned to swat? So does swat now have two lieutenants assigned there?
11/22/2010 10:38:00 AM
Yes and yes.
Next question.
Time to flood the 016 th district with calls. Everyone or everything you see thats suspiscious call the police,couple arguing call the police,crazy driver call the police, garage tampered with call the police ,get a report,car looks like somone rifles through it call the police. Loud reports,disturbance on nw highway drinkers call the police get a report for everything everything everything spread the word. Only in Chicago house values go down,police service gets cut,less streets and san guys in our hood ,but yet r taxes still go up. How many of us dont use the chicago public school system but ,its on yout tax bill,even if you dont have kids. Todd stroger hires back a friend under investigation for a scandal ,but gets a new 90,000.00 county job today ,im fucking sick of all this. Go getem boys,make uncle Jodi proud,hes still has a chance to get a new contract ,yet these idiots r out there coming in with 3 4 heads a night.dont u get it ,fuck up once and your yesterdays news.
I demand more police sevice since I paymore taxes. Period.
If this reallocation of PO's is not the right thing to do, what is the right thing to do? The fact that everyone is so pissed about this makes me believe that they are on to something. I actually think he's going through with this just to kick the troops in the ass on the way out of the door. Somebody with a better idea better speak up quick....
I can't believe this nonsense. My property tax bill just went up 55% to $8,500.00, for my Edison Park home, and they want to take services away? Just fantastic. Will I get to burn time in July when I need a weekend off??? I hate Chicago.
Get your degree and leave this dept!! Im making the city pay $50,000 for my Masters Degree!! I love it!! Im gonna get the degree, then use this dept. as a crutch to move on to bigger and better things. Believe it or not, there are other agencies out there besides C.P.D. that will think you are a GOD b/c you were a Chicago cop with an education!!
QUESTION?
HOW TO MOVE PEOPLE ON BID.
A WHILE BACK A LITTLE UNIT CALLED BOMB AND ARSON STAFFED BY DETECTIVES ON BID WERE THE SCENE OF AN EXPERIMENT.
J-FLED CUT THE STAFFING NUMBER 2 THE UNIT! ALL THOSE AFFECTED YELLED AT THE F.O.P WHO LOOKED INTO IT.
SUPRISE!
THE CITY CAN CUT STAFFING NUMBER AND THEN OFFER BIDS TO SHIT SPOTS LIKE AREA 1 AND 2.
NOBODY CARED ABOUT THE POOR DICKS BACK THEN.
NOW JUST IMAGINE J-FLED CUTS THE STAFFING TO 016 OR 022!
AND THEN OPENS BID ONLY IN 007 AND 003. LOW MAN ON SENIORITY GOTZ HIMSELF A NEW SPOT IN DA HOOD.
AND MANAGEMENT CAN KEEP THE CLOUTED REGARDLESS OF SENIORITY.
ITS ALL LEGIT AND DONT THINK UR LOVING COMMANDER IS GOING TO FIGHT 4 U EITHER.
•The city's 911 data show certain areas of the city are "extremely quiet," Beale said. "We don't want to disturb that. However, if we can pull some of those resources to make some communities just as safe and secure as those other communities, we have a responsibility to do that. If you have officers sitting idle all day not responding to any calls and you have other sections where they can't even keep up with the calls, that's a disservice to the residents of this city."
Does this MORON actually think that it is police presence that makes a neighborhood "extremely quiet"? Those districts that are "quiet" are so because they act like normal human beings who have responsibilities and a moral foundation that prevents them from acting like animals! Like SCC said, you are going to have to move a lot more than police to the busy districts! As long as those residents continue to act like savages, no amount of police presence is going to solve their problems! I say we just build a wall around 'em and let 'em have at each other! It'll get quiet eventually ...
"Street Talk" today was a lot of "I don't know, we'll look into it" type of answers. Not one concrete no bullshit answer. And did we expect any different? Not I.
At least this one was on the clock, unlike jfled's dog & pony show right after he got hired. That was an hour of my life wasted. I could have watched Andy Griffith reruns instead.
11/22/2010 05:19:00 PM
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The reason they had the "street talk" meeting is because THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS, they are looking for you to tell them what should be done... I just want to know WTF they are doing to earn their inflated paychecks??? They sure don't know shit...
I live in 10 sector of 008, and am constantly telling people especially on beats 811,812 to call police no matter what if you want to keep police services! We have 3 dedicated cars thanks to Alderman Zalewski and Commander Kup in 008,beats 811,812,859 those coppers do a great job and we appreciate you protecting the homeland and not the out of control animals!
11/22/2010 11:33:00 AM
I agree, they do a great job. Especially the coppers working 859
The Democratic Party has created this monster over the past 65 or so years. They have made people depended on government,which includes police, fire,and means of economic survival, welefare. They act like children so they have to be treated like children and like children, when given too much they expect moore. The two ways to solve this problem is either stop giving people everything or keep giving them moore. The latter will destoy us and nobody is willing to stop it. It may be impossible to stop at this point without some type of revolution, which I pray will be peaceful. Remember you people see it everyday, the rest of America is just wakng up. Be safe.
You'll get the same arguments they made when they talked about requiring auto insurance. "This will be a burden on the poor people. They are the ones who need their vehicles the most and can afford it the least."
Blah, blah, blah.
I sell car insurance this never happened, BS again
Hot off the presses at 35th street- TACT Teams to Areas to act as citywide unit. Northside Teams will goto 010,011, 015,025,and southside Teams goto 003,004,005,006,007,008. Commnader of 004th District has been picked to lead this new unit. GEU will report to Homan Square. Some GEU teams will be disbanded. Only 10 teams will goto Homan. Area gun teams to be placed also in Homan to work with CAGE teams. District rapid beat cars to be reassigned to fast districts on a day to day basis. City will be divided north/south. North side cops will be sent to west side and south side cops sent south. This is JFLED's swan song. He's trying to curry favor with Ald. Beales and reverends to try and save his job or at least get an extension of a year or two. Headquarters is only concerned with everything SOUTH of Madison street, ie shootings,violence,etc. Slower districts up north will be running a skeleton crew at night. Protect your family. This plan is on the drawing board right now and being finalized as I type this.
11/22/2010 10:37:00 AM
Are we going to the Areas we currently are in ie 003 to Area 2?
I hope not.
To the who who wrote:
While I agree with what is being said... For crying out loud... If you can't spell then look it up because you're making us look like idiots when you spell "quiet" as "quite"
Sure we know what you mean but anyone on this job who cannot even spell the basic words needs another line of work!
Shut up and this is a blog site not a poll.
We are fucked!
I have spent the last 20 years of my life babysitting the beast, and it continues to get worse.
Cook County voters are sheep! Take care of our own, we are all we have left.
too many lazy dogs on this job--- you got that right--- and it starts with supervision--- everyone knows that you have to lay down on the job before you go to dinner if you want to eat in peace but we have a bunch of pooches who lay down on every job--- hello sgts and lts, check the unit summary once in awhile--- but they generally do not because they don't want to be labeled as a jag off boss....
Anonymous said...
send the Northsiders to the South and West Side. I'd love to see em REALLY earn their money for doing what we have to do every day..
11/22/2010 04:57:00 PM
And another dummie has spoken that unfortunately sliped through the cracks and became the police. Don't assume that every copper has only worked on the north side. You ever heard of a "transfer bid?" They come out every 28 days and people can move around. When you grow up and get some time on you will understand. Now say good night to your mommy and head back down to her basement.
Since lots of cops live in 016, let them watch their own nieghborhoods. The crime in 016 is usually coppers kids acting ghetto.
11/22/2010 01:03:00 PM
Actually most of the felony arrests ARE by ODPOs.
a citizen's arrest may prove to not be as professionally restrained experience as one performed by a trained professional peace officer.
time to buy an extra pair of steel toed work boots?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
"I say lets charge $1.00 for every 911 call made. It can be charged to a land or cell phone..."
11/22/2010 10:49:00 AM
You'll get the same arguments they made when they talked about requiring auto insurance. "This will be a burden on the poor people. They are the ones who need their vehicles the most and can afford it the least."
Blah, blah, blah.
11/22/2010 10:24:00 PM
Then the "poor" people ought to quote dope, alcohol and cigarettes. All expensive vices they cannot afford. I spend too much things like insurance, taxes, food, housing and savings to have any money to squander on bad habits.
Tonight, my pharmacist at Osco told me what a good thing he thought this realignment was. "Sends the police to where they're really needed", he said.
Then I asked if he lived northwest. No, he lives OUTSIDE the city! That explains why he's so quick to agree that it's okay that the few good neighborhoods left in this city should lose what little police protection they still have.
Once I explained the 'call volume' criteria, and what types of stupid calls are counted, he changed his mind. When he heard we are actually required to respond to 'my boy disrespected me' calls, he was dumbfounded. Welcome to my world, guy.
Just heard about this and was able to find it. It seems that JP wies, tina skahill, tracey ladner and several members of IAD are being sued by a 32yr retired detective for conspiracy against him. i will put a link to it below but its pretty damning against iad. hopefully it works out for this detective as it seems they really jerked this guy around.
http://207.41.16.133/rfcViewFile/10cv7507.pdf
11/22/2010 03:49:00 PM
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Well, way to go, Tom! Notice how damages are specifically directed at the PERSONAL assets of each of those named in the case.
There's more than one investigator in that unit who can't manage to close a case in a timely fashion. One just jumps from area to area and unit to unit, leaving dozens of delinquent cases behind each time...
11/22/2010 11:15:00 PM
"The reason they had the street talk meeting is because they DON'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS..."
We have said this time and again about the current coven of worthless so called "Police Executives" ruining the fuck out of this Department. The best and the brightest ever in the history of CPD are firmly in charge. Just ask them.
If this in fact were a REAL semi-military organization, virtually the entire top echelon would be tied to a post and offered a cigarette & blindfold for their thundering incompetence and allowing alderfools & storefront rever'rear-ends to dictate Police Department Policy, much to the detriment of the Police and the tax paying, chased, hunted and robbed for revenue on the streets real citizens.
We long to see the day and to revel in the same when the teeth and jaws of corrosive political influence and the resultant fuckery are finally, resolutely and decisively broken with malicious intent.
008 is the new home for many wanna be Tony's (Scarface) and provide their poison to many neighborhood punks. Property crimes are up!!! I don't think the Ten Sector cars in 008 can handle this increase. We need the outside Units to help us out. MSF OR TRU
South-side P.O.
I have 6 years on the job and let me tell you something... we wouldnt need to deploy officers from the north side districts if the south side districts did their jobs. i worked in 009 and i was a worker who always took jobs and coded them without sitting on them. there are so many lazy dogs in this job that it is a disgrace. we took this job to serve this city and its people and if your not doing that just quit. this summer when it starts picking up the criminals better watch out cause here comes the boom!!!!for you idiots that couldnt get that it means i dont play around.
LMAO !!LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!! easy tough guy,,LIFM.. oh for you thats 011.. 14 years i do play around..you joke!
District rapid beat cars to be reassigned to fast districts on a day to day basis.
--For the rapids/beat cars - Isn't there something in the contract stating that if you work outside of your "area" you will be paid time and 1/2?
Stop pushing these .380 caliber weapons. You are going to get someone hurt. That round is completely unacceptable as a selfdefense round. It should only be used for plinking small vermin like rats or squirrels. 9mm or .38 are the minimum calibers that should be considered when purchasing a handgun for self defense. While the Kahr PM9 is a good gun, be advised that Sig is going to introduce a similar weapon in the near future, the P290. It is designed to compete with the Kahr but at a lower price. But whatever weapon you decide to buy, stay away from a 380! Do some research. The FBI standards strongly recommend that a self defense round be capable of penetrating a minimum of 12 inches in ballistic gelatin. The BEST 380 round will only penetrate about 7 inches. Now say what you want about the FBI. But realize that one thing they do do right is ballistic testing. They collect OIS reports from all over the nation everytime there is an OIS. They also do their own ballistic research. If there was ever a group of empty holsters it would be the FBI but even they will not use the 380. STAY AWAY FROM THE 380. PLEASE. The life you save may be your own.
04:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
"Get out if you can. Get a gun if you can't." And I know the perfect ones for the job. Kahr P380 and its big brother, The PM9..."
11/22/2010 10:48:00 AM
Thanks for your input, Mr. Kahr. Now go away.
11/22/2010 10:11:00 PM
My name aint Kahr. But I am damn sure getting one. I know a better mouse trap when I see one. Best quality you can put in a pants pocket, period. And the Police aint coming back anytime soon...
Is that something they can do by contract? If somebody spends 15-20 years in the ghetto waiting until they had enough seniority to bid to a "quiet" district, only to be sent right back to the shit, isn't that something that violates the contract?
No. If they want to, they can put you anywhere. It's called MAN POWER NEED. It was done to 2 officers in 024 a several years ago. They both got dumped to 023. They never requested the transfer. One had over 20 years on and the other had between 10 - 15 years when this happened.
Disregarding all the calls mentioned by SCC makes no sense. Those calls are some of the biggest drains on police resources and they aren't going to go away.
They can go away. Just stop sending officers to them.
Or fine them. How many times have you been dispatched to a domestic and when you get there it turns out that junior either doesn't want to go to school and mama wants you to take them or someone disrespected someone else.
Or lock them up for filing a false report.
Or have call back do their job and take the damn report over the phone instead throwing the call back to 911.
Stop having the fire dispatches CONSTANTLY request police back up for EVERY CALL they get. I have arrived at many of these calls only to be asked by the fire personnel on the scene why was I there, they didn't request the police.
Could this be a reason that crime is downd?
Hard time has gotten even harder in Illinois prisons.
The state's prison system is bursting at the seams with a record high of nearly 49,000 inmates, some 3,000 more than just a year ago. The surge, combined with the state's multibillion-dollar budget crisis, has led to conditions that watchdog groups and veteran correctional officers say they haven't seen since a population crisis in the 1980s prompted the state to build three new prisons.
Tribune.com
I worked on sside for 9 years and finally transfered north closer to home..... So yourre saying I need to earn my pay,to work the sside again...... Get a clue and clean the hair gel from your brain out. The only solution us to hire the alotted number of officers the city is supposed to have.
Shots fired!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
District rapid beat cars to be reassigned to fast districts on a day to day basis.
--For the rapids/beat cars - Isn't there something in the contract stating that if you work outside of your "area" you will be paid time and 1/2?
11/23/2010 07:19:00 AM
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Have you even bothered reading your contract? No such section.
How many times have you been dispatched to a domestic and when you get there it turns out that junior either doesn't want to go to school and mama wants you to take them or someone disrespected someone else.
I work in 011. No lie, last week, during one watch, my partner and I were dispacthed to 3 "domestics".
#1. Was actually link card dispute, That's right, a fuckin link card issue. Girlfriend had given boyfriend the card and code. He and his other crack-ho girlfriend spent up all the money on the card. Police matter? I'm thinking NO!
#2.38 year old momma wants us to make 20 year old daughter leave the premises. Because daughter took, YOU GUESSED IT,the LINK CARD and bought food without consulting momma. Police matter? I'll take NO!
#3. 17 year old female gave her cellphone to her 19 year old (baby-daddy) and ex boyfriend, who refused to give it back in a timely manner.
All 3 calls were dispacthed as domestics. NONE,were in actuality, police matters. WaThaFuck!
I've worked in 011 for almost 10 years now (and please, spare me the "come protect the homeland" bs).
I don't mind having units like TRU and MSF in the district, when they help us out when we ask for more cars. The problem I have is that when we are in our infinite backlog and driving from job to job, we often pass by 4 or 5 (literally) MSF or TRU cars sitting on a traffic stop while we are being run ragged. Why in the hell can't they answer radio calls? Perhaps if we had more help dealing with the bullshit calls, there would be more time for EVERYONE to do proactive work if they so choose. Not that any of us should be doing anything proactive these days, but I'm just sayin.
Stop pushing these .380 caliber weapons. You are going to get someone hurt. That round is completely unacceptable as a selfdefense round. It should only be used for plinking small vermin like rats or squirrels.
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Actually there are two types of rounds for this weapon, one to use in the summer, and another to use in the fall winter spring that will penetrate the coats and jackets... check it out.
Of course, unless the weapon is EASILY and READILY available, one should always conduct oneself as if unarmed....
Firearms instructor, Narcotics Officer, Mayor Bodyguard, SWAT officer... what will it take to understand. This is not even a matter of tactics or years on the job. It has become a system that favors the criminal and blames the patrolman. The public has lost family values and the police have been restricted to social justice.
Putting more POs in these flamin hot and purple pop districts is like standing in front of a tsunami with your hands up shouting, "STOP"...to the tidal wave!
11/23/2010 03:04:00 AM,
You obviously haven't been in the U.S. Army. It's as driven by public opinion, politics and bullshit as any other organization. Retards get promoted there quite frequently, and once promoted past a certain level, it is an ACT OF CONGRESS to get rid of them......sound familiar? I do agree that some smokes and blindfolds should be passed around, but let's face it, nobody here has the grapes to do it.
"Then the "poor" people ought to quote dope, alcohol and cigarettes. All expensive vices they cannot afford. I spend too much things like insurance, taxes, food, housing and savings to have any money to squander on bad habits.
11/23/2010 01:55:00 AM"
you left out the worst habit of all, namely, squirting out little bastards every 9 months.
We need the Aldermen, (we need to pressure the Aldermen), in our home districts to tell J-Fled,
"Hey Asshole, put 'em back!"
It isn't just calls to 9-1-1 that get a response. It's angry calls, lots of them, to the Aldermen’s office as this is going on.
Maybe SCC could publish the Aldermen's phone numbers. It would be great to get their home and personal cell phone numbers and call them at 2:00AM when we can't get a police car to respond when we called 9-1-1 at 1:00AM. Don't be nice. Make sure you let him/her know that you hold them responsible for letting Shorty and J-Fled ruining the CPD as a public service and as an employer.
Geez, the Districts w/ the most calls for Police Service are predominately 1 Ethnic Group?
That never seems to be called into question? Bueller? BarMaid?
Lil Ernie? anybody?
Reallocation won't help.
There will just be more Officers that work in Districts they can give a rats A** about.
They will give minimal effort and complain the whole time.
Meanwhile the 'working police ' in those districts will continue to carry the load for those who don't want to do work.
This department has plenty of problems, this is true. One of them....LAZY A** , DO NOTHING, OFFICERS WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING.
Oh yeah, this is how you spell 'Quiet'.
I have 6 years on the job and let me tell you something... we wouldnt need to deploy officers from the north side districts if the south side districts did their jobs. i worked in 009 and i was a worker who always took jobs and coded them without sitting on them. there are so many lazy dogs in this job that it is a disgrace. we took this job to serve this city and its people and if your not doing that just quit. this summer when it starts picking up the criminals better watch out cause here comes the boom!!!!for you idiots that couldnt get that it means i dont play around.
WoW!! This guys so dumb he's stupid! Go sit on a stop sign kid!
The 10 sector in 008 is going to shit especially by that barber shop on 63rd and central..
I hear they are going to include those that are on E.B.'s Bottom 10 List. That's only 250 officers but hey, this department has done stranger things before.
Reallocation, deficits, mayoral election, pension. All taking our attention away from what is really important: Preparing for a terrorist attack in our city.
Prepare ourselves mentally, physically, emotionally and in every way we can. Ammo and a go-bag at home and in the car. Lots of canned goods, bottled water, first aid. Full tank of gas at all times, etc.
The anniversary of the Mumbai attack is Friday, Nov 26. Those were more than 10 coordinated shooting and bombing attacks across Mumbai, India's largest city.
Be aware, be prepared. In the event of any terrorist attack there will likely be an increase in plain old crime including looting.
We have to hope that weis has something on the ball with regards to terrorism. If anything bad goes down, we will be needing leadership. Let's hope he can provide it. We are all we've got.
we need more cpos on the south side!thank you!now the clout babies can do some work,and see some violence!!
"..if we can pull some of those resources to make some communities just as safe and secure as those other communities, we have a responsibility to do that..."
"Resources" don't make a community what it is.
It's the people who live there.
End.
We have to hope that weis has something on the ball with regards to terrorism. If anything bad goes down, we will be needing leadership. Let's hope he can provide it. We are all we've got.
11/23/2010 07:53:00 PM
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He has nothing on the ball with anything, hasn't that become apparent to you yet? Leadership? not happening in this lifetime... We are all we got! you hit the nail on the head with that one.
The real problem is 911 sends out officers for 96% of the calls= ALL other big cities sent out an average of 66% that's the problem, When that changes you will have enough man power. Why this city doesn't get it I will never know.
Look it up boys.
C'Mon Mannnnnn, crime has been going down for years,(My second crime reduction ribbon proves this) Why would CPD shuffle officers around??? Everything seems to be working just fine.....right?
I heard 40 PO's from 019
In most Police Districts the Officers reflect the community they Patrol in. The NW& SW Districts are patrolled by many who live in the same district.
Is The Supe actually saying they need to move them in order to Patrol in High call volume Districts where the non-performers are unable to Police their own effectively?
In response to Ray-Ray:
Yes and yes.
Next question.
11/22/2010 10:25:00 PM
The next questions are:
- was this position specifically created just for him, seeing as up until now there has been only one Lt. assigned to swat and,
- why was this position not posted and applications/resumes requested from other lieutenants who may have wanted to be considered for the position but were not part of the policy group
This department has plenty of problems, this is true. One of them....LAZY A** , DO NOTHING, OFFICERS WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING.
And another problem facing the department is idiots like yourself. You really think that you are hot shit, huh? Some 5 year wonder who is either trying to get on the tact team or trying to save his spot.
While I will be the first to say that we could all benefit from your experience and wisdom (sarcasm alert!), truth be told all those 1 bag of weed, pissing on the public way or DOPW arrests that you have under your belt aren't exactly movie of the week material.
But hey! Keep dreaming kid. You just might make something of yourself someday. Maybe when that happens you'll be able to move out of mommy and daddy's basement, get your own place and paper your walls with all your honorable's you've racked up.
Next question: Is Ray Rays new job related to the naked ambition of Steve Georgas (pander king)?
The real problem is 911 sends out officers for 96% of the calls= ALL other big cities sent out an average of 66% that's the problem, When that changes you will have enough man power. Why this city doesn't get it I will never know.
Look it up boys.
11/24/2010 12:12:00 AM
The policy for responding is set by the CPD and the CFD. The 911 Center follows the instructions given to them by CPD and CFD. The 911 Center is merely a conduit between the public and CPD and CFD, but CPD ad CFD sets the policy and controls what gets dispatched for service. As it stands, CFD allows Fire 911 to refuse service as they see fit, while CPD demands that CPD 911 take every call and either dispatch it or send it to call back. Nobody at CPD wants to establish a no service policy and then get sued the first time shit goes bad. Blame a litigious pulic, not CPD or the 911 Center.
Dear Supt.
How much do you think a copper who has already seen it all in the ghetto, and wanted to finish a career in a slower district like 016, and 019 would give a shit when reassigned to a west or south side district by defacto reassignment? I doubt you will get a mover or a parker a day. Much less any proactive policing.
If we get pulled from our north side districts we will let the ghetto burn!!! 19p all day long!
I live in 10 sector of 008, and am constantly telling people especially on beats 811,812 to call police no matter what if you want to keep police services! We have 3 dedicated cars thanks to Alderman Zalewski and Commander Kup in 008,beats 811,812,859 those coppers do a great job and we appreciate you protecting the homeland and not the out of control animals!
11/22/2010 11:33:00 AM
I agree, they do a great job. Especially the coppers working 859
First things first, 812 & 859 do a great job. 811 is a bunch of dogs, when was the last time they did any proactive police work-never. The cops that work 811 are the laziest sob I seen in quite a while. For the record it was not Ald. Zalewski it was Commander Kup. It closing, the only thing 811 is dedicated to is doing nothing.
We need the help in 007. Thankd Jodi.
n most Police Districts the Officers reflect the community they Patrol in. The NW& SW Districts are patrolled by many who live in the same district.
Is The Supe actually saying they need to move them in order to Patrol in High call volume Districts where the non-performers are unable to Police their own effectively?
You sound like a complete idiot! Every district, and I do mean EVERY district, is patrolled by predominately white officers. How so? Because the department is comprised of mostly white officers! So, if we're to accept your silly theory,the majority of the po's patrolling 010 or 011 live there? You really believe a shitload of coppers live in 010 or 011? By the way, I live in 016, and work in 015. Imagine that.
You're fucking moron!
OH NO WE ARE SHORT STAFFED! WELL, LET'S TAKE FROM PETER AND GIVE TO PAUL!!!!!!
is this the city's way of accepting how short our department is/has been?
Anonymous said...
I heard 40 PO's from 019
11/24/2010 12:54:00 AM
Impossible. 019 is around 18% understrength now. 13 more from each watch means no one gets time off. Ever.
That would mean that in 12 years 019 went from a strength of around 350 to 230. And they pay a lot of taxes. For what, to send the police so Beale and Meeks can better control the humanoids there?
Alderman Schulter, Waugespack and Tunney better start fighting for their ward.
Yup, word is 40 from 19. If I go, I'm not doing anything. How is it my fault that south and west sides are nothing but the filth of the city? Aldermen, go fuck yourselves, you pieces of shit!
This department has plenty of problems, this is true. One of them....LAZY A** , DO NOTHING, OFFICERS WHO COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING.
And another problem facing the department is idiots like yourself. You really think that you are hot shit, huh? Some 5 year wonder who is either trying to get on the tact team or trying to save his spot.
While I will be the first to say that we could all benefit from your experience and wisdom (sarcasm alert!), truth be told all those 1 bag of weed, pissing on the public way or DOPW arrests that you have under your belt aren't exactly movie of the week material.
But hey! Keep dreaming kid. You just might make something of yourself someday. Maybe when that happens you'll be able to move out of mommy and daddy's basement, get your own place and paper your walls with all your honorable's you've racke
Not on Tact. Don't want to be on Tact....I don't believe I'm hot anything. I've just grown tired of Officers who are just a waste of space. You think I look at myself as better than someone because I expect people to put forth effort? Really? Ok then.....
Are you just quoting the arrests you made, if you have made any at all. Oh wait, you are probably so upset by my post because it describes YOU.
It's funny. It seems like the sentiment on this blog is if someone speaks out against Lazy, Dog A** Officers, they are young and with some sort of agenda. That's not true. I know plenty of Officers that are not 'fresh out of the Academy' that despise the laziness that exists.
It's pretty embarrassing. Some Officers are a disgrace to the Uniform and deserve to be fired.
But alas, we protect those who, in essence, put other Officers safety at risk. Because it's acceptable to be a Lazy-A** copper who doesn't back people up and comes to work to do nothing at all.
If your Wife/Family needed the Police for whatever reason, you'll be hoping someone like myself gets the call. Not one of these good-for-nothings that will take their sweet time getting there.
I'm not some tough guy type. I cant save the world, but I RESPECT the job. I wish more would do the same.
Stop catering to these stupid ghetto calls. Period. These people have to get it that ya can't call the popo 'cause junior won't get out of bed to go to school or your cousin took your LINK card. START FINING these idiots for the idiotic calls.
Hey Big City Police (Ret.) why don't you run for mayor?
Wow. Taking 40 from 19 is being confirmed by some brass. It seems aldermen up there really don't give a shit.
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