Earned, Not Given
Stay classy Henny Penny!
- Commander in 011 cancels christmas watch party for first watch. Reason being she says that cars from other districts 12, 13. 14, etc cannot cover our district for a watch party. That only happens for the district party that other cars will come in and cover our district... That's total bullshit! Who the fuck is she kidding. also she said that there is no way 011 dist on 1 watch can be down 4 cars... Where have you been lady we were down 4 to 5 sometimes 6 cars all summer. She is just pissed off that no one is going to the 011 dist. She is clueless the worst ever. Why do we on midnights even go out and work for you if that is how you are going to treat the watch.
Some enterprising soul sent us an entire month worth of 011 District worksheets over last summer. The average number of cars down was four a night with two 10-99 units up and running. To mess with a watch like this is just low class. But then, look what the Department has been promoting for years now - sexual harassers, thieves, grifters, knob-jobbers, drunks, suck-asses, psychopaths, stalkers and all manner of deviant.
And now, this little tidbit:
Another shining example of J-Fled's leadership.
And now, this little tidbit:
- Hey scc.
just finished attending the 011th district christmas party. And Penny is about to out do herself next year. She is so pissed at the turn out of the party, that she takes it as a slap in the face to her. So starting next year everyone on management on the watches will be moved around every couple of weeks. So without warning anyone on 2nd or 3rd watch could be working 1st watch. although im sure the people on 1st watch wont mind, its still a pain in ass to no know what watch youll be working next week. She said this will continue until she has the respect of the officers working under her.
Another shining example of J-Fled's leadership.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
109 Comments:
All long time ago, there used to some good people promoted. Presently, all I hear about is terrible leadership.
I don't get why the attendance at the district Christmas party would make one whit of a difference to the district commander? It is so stupid. If people want to go, they should go, if they don't then don't.. Some unit's have great parties, some, not so great... but really, the party is for the retirees. If each retiree has his/her own party, and the retirees aren't attending the Christmas party, then so be it.
Personally, I don't like the Christmas party tradition because, who has extra money to dish out at Christmas time? Nowadays the parties are 60-70 per ticket.. at that price, it becomes pretty costly to actually bring your significant other to the party... If the commander wants a lot of people at the party, host it, but as long as each attendee is paying his/her own way (and using their time to get the day off to go, which is actually - what a couple hundred bucks when all is said and done) then there certainly should be no penalty for not showing up...
Wow! The Grinch lives! I'll bet if the WC reached out, he/she could get 15-20 people who would cover the watch...for free (ok, maybe not free, but for hours on the books). I'd do it.
Since there are no more watch parties, and the official district parties are for spouses, significant others and retirees, these watch Christmas parties are a way for the P.O.'s to de-stress and have a bit of fun.
Penny, get your head out of your ass and do the right thing!!
Bullshit. No commander can move people 'on management' around on the watches on two week intervals. A cmdr could rotate 'management' people around on a period by period basis, but they would have to show a serious need to do so, or (I would imagine) a grievance would be filed for harassment, and it would be hard for the Dept. to defend such a practice, as it's rarely been done.
Best guess is, if Trahanas and the officers assigned to 011 diverge into a serious 'hostile work environment', I see the Dept. bigwigs laterally moving Trahanas to yet another Exempt position within the Dept to protect her exempt status. We've seen J-Fled and 3M create many positions for friends & the clouted, so this would come as no surprise, but if they intend to 'protect' Trahanas, they'll have to make moves to do so soon. Time is running out for Daley's brown nosers, and they all know it. Any guesses as to where the incompetent 3M will evacuate to? Will he remain in Chicago, or beat feet for parts unknown, a la Huberman? Inquiring minds want to know!
Conditions in 011 are as low as I've seen them in over 10 years. Henny Penny is screwing with coppers who handle one of the worst districts in the city. 1st watch lost Capt Bay to the 3rd Watch. Now she won't bring in manpower from other districts so a 1st watch party can be held. 3rd watch coppers attempting to get off the watch since Capt Hart retired, right along with lt. Dembowski - 2 of the finest bosses on the job. 2nd watch lost Capt Aguinaga - who bitched a lot but was never out to hurt anyone. All the watch commanders are going to have a hard time stopping an absolute mutiny in 011. The work is not going to get done - period.
SCC said...
"Another shining example of J-Fled's leadership."
I seriously doubt that Penny is his girl and he is obviously NOT making any real policy decisions for this Department! He is not nor has he ever been a leader here. Blame the mayor and his POS revruns. J-Fled was just a bad dream that will soon be fading away.
THE BIG QUESTION:
Who is Penny's clout?
Why is such an INCREDIBLY incompetent individual still in a command spot?
" . . the Department has been promoting for years now - sexual harassers, thieves, grifters, knob-jobbers, drunks, suck-asses, psychopaths, stalkers and all manner of deviant . . "
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You are insulting me SCC
~ Deputy Chief of Defectives ALFONSA WYSINGER
P.S. I hates 'lazzzzy' sergeants
I think she is a boob way over-promoted BUT, she is right about one thing: nobody is sending help from other districts for a watch party, it's never happened, never will; if you're first watch, your watch party is in the am, like it always has been. The only thing that's ever been done is augmenting starting times etc. so people can make it to the parties.
Keep on generating those numbers you go getters. It sure sounds like it's paying off for you. They treat officers like shit on this job because they CAN. She can change shifts, cancel RDO's, deny time due, etc... and you'll still come to work, write your movers, contact cards, and get your head. Then you'll scratch your ass when she says it isn't enough and takes a dump on your face and you'll double your efforts. It's like an endless cycle of ass raping.
Here's a fucking leadership primer for those assholes who lack any sort of military or real world leadership experience.
If you act like an asshole dictator, you will never be respected. When you pull bullshit moves like this so everyone can see how you lord you authority over those you are supposed to support, they won't work for you. They'll do the minimum, but never more.
Respect is a two way street. Military leaders know that they always put the troops first, or they will never gain their respect. That means no NCO or officer will ever eat before the troops eat, or grab gear before all of the troops are equipped. How are those protective masks doing, "leaders" of CPD?
It's not hard to lead. It can be learned. You do, however, have to want to learn and put your fucking ego on hold. Now if you are a totally morally bankrupt ass wipe, you'll never learn. Therein lies the fucking rub. We have shit bags for leaders in the organization who were promoted by a criminal fuck called Shortshanks. They will never change.
Now tell me, how do you fuck over an asshole like that? Very easy. Make them look bad each and every time. Eventually, they'll have to move on. They'll be bitter assholes still, but they'll be some other unit's asshole.
Sorry for the long rant, but it needed to be said.
Penny did this!!! Penny did that!!! Bla Bla Bla!!!!
Yet you goofs continue to bring in one baggers, parkers, movers and and all the other bullshit numbers. Shame on you all!
No matter what happens...we deserve what we get because we dont stick together.
Um, then why would the poster himself attend the Christmas party? Suckass maybe?
FOOL
Antoher female like Penny is Lucy Moy who is such a High Schooler when going after people or even when talking and people laugh when she tries to sneak up on people. She is such a disgrace to the department with her "hateful" antics. I don't know how this lady got promoted when she clearly has a behavioral problem and lawsuits have been filed for her major labor malpratices. She is the last to be able to say anything. This is what meritorious promotions do to people who shouldn't been promoted. She can't handle her position at all. She should of been flagged as a "personnel connern" and never promoted. She should of been sent for "anger management" classes. She is something else. There's actually a PO who had to take a leave of absence due to all the verbal and emotional abuse from Moy. I guess that makes her a Penny of the Northside.
Keep your Christmas Party
Keep your F.O.P. Stickers/Medallions and hatbands.
Keep your St. Jude Parade
(but Pray and donate $$ regularly)
Keep your idiots with their unearned Gold Stars.
Keep your. . ."word on the street is"
Back each other up(remember that one?)
C.Y.A. !
Get off the stool and home to your family.
Talk to someone / get some help. It IS available. (EAP)
You will ALWAYS have bills.
Hug your kids.
You prob. can't do better than her.
1st and 16th (and 22nd, etc. etc. etc.)
Go to Church
Don't forget 01 JAN '11 (2%)
19-P
This too, shall pass.
Tomorrow is another day.
Merry Christmas
Happy New Year!
Who the fuck was her clout or gave her the promotions??? Wonder if she earned her promotions or did she pull the "I'll threaten to sue b/c", yeah you know why. Those persons(who ever promoted her or even uttered her name for a suggestion) should be castrated, tarred and feathered and then finally branded with the words "FAIL" on his forehead for vouching for her!!! They should have the balls to right what he wronged and sever their ties with her so she can get busted down to lt. and have someone from time to time keep her in check!!! If she was still the commander they should organize their own x-mas/retirement party and not even think twice of ever going so she can have the party with her ass kissers, chirping crickets, and tumble weed!!! I believe years ago 11 was the place to be if you wanted to work, they had good workers and bosses. What happened??? Shieeeeet I would just answer my calls, back my fellow officers, and maybe when I need time or money get my court dates(1) mover/nickel bag/rock/domestic/impound-next month repeat if needed. Anything more than that is pointless and helping her cause, whatever it maybe.
Don't do any work for the bitch....let her explain why her district shut down. She'll have to call her clout and burn another favor. Hopefully the well will run dry one day. Unless you worked for this incompetent pos, you can't fully understand what it's like to be ruled by pure evil.
THE BIG QUESTION:
Who is Penny's clout?
The Aldercreatures and Revruns. When she was put in time-out for her latest infraction, the Aldercreatures and Revruns heavily pushed for her return. She's all ears to them and overly accomodating.
After she starred in "JACKIE BROWN",
I heard she was going to give up the Police charade! What happened?
I don't get why the attendance at the district Christmas party would make one whit of a difference to the district commander? It is so stupid
Simple...because they are ego maniacs who sucked for every position they got/have and thats what the expect from their subordinates.
7:32am,,,,
There are much, much worse places to work in this department, and I saw many openings posted the other day---how about picking a place and leaving? People (and we know who you are) are sick of hearing you complaining about minutia.
Moy, played the same game in A/4 when she was tried to be a dick. What a shame, 4 time MERIT pick. This job just gets worse EVERY day. As for Commander in 11, don't even want to mention her name/ Eric Washington walked in the door, and people were happen to see him. He made the job easier, in a shit enviroment. I'm tried and just got up/draining!
No matter what happens...we deserve what we get because we dont stick together.
12/20/2010 05:31:00 AM
B.I.N.G.O.!!!!!
Untill we figure that out as a District, and asa DEPARTMENT, we are fucked.
she is hot!i would dance with her at the christmas party!i would date her!!leave her alone!!
Expensive Christmas parties, and word is thet the extra money from the DOC Christmas party goes right into the pocket of the commander and his Lt.
Read the contract, people that bid or assigned by management to a watch will remain in that position for the calendar year.
The management spot is protected by seniority. If there are shortages on othe watches officers will be moved by reverse seniority.
If FOP had balls they would hold this section of the contract to the letter and ensure the house cats get tossed in the mix.
House cats are not exempt by seniority issues unless management shows they have special qualifications to be exempt.
The retired secretary
Lucy Moy -- I remember when she was a do nothing dick in area 4-- what a friggin joke
old retired guy
Hey Penny, you can't force respect you have to earn it. You didn't earn you command, you can't force the people in 11 to respect you. Stop trying to prove something, be yourself and stop trying to impress someone. You have worked for enough "good" bosses to know how to act, stop acting like an ass.
I'll believe it when I see it. It sounds to me like a bunch of speculation. Is she way over her head and a bad commander...yes. Has she really effected much in 011 other than the glorious Pod room...no. We still get the time off we want (don't complain about being down 4 beat cars on midnights during the summer, unless people start wanting their time denied, that's the trade off) and nothing has changed considerably since she's been in 011. Would we rather have Starks, Jackson, or Washington as a Commander, absolutely. Hopefully she won't be here forever and they can send as another traditionally good Commander on their way up.
Penny has never done a real days work in her career, as a school officer, she knew more about what is on sale and the restaurants that gave the best discounts to her. As an Area 5 Detective she was given special treatment because she was a mother. The Command Staff changed her working hours to assist her in child care. She would come in late everyday but leave with the rest of the Detectives. She pretty much worked along on domestice cases and would never get any heaters. She would go to court and bring her baby and stated that she had no day care. She would get the three hours OT with her baby in arms and testify with the baby in arms. Finally, the Court Sgt had to make a complaint, it just did not look good for Penny to sit in the front row of court with the real police in uniform and she held a baby in arms crying. She than went back to the school patrol as a Sgt and did even less. Who is her clout, must be a big time take care of me clout, what a joke, her ex-husband was a class act and real police.
This should be no surprise to anyone, it was foretold in the book of Revelations.....
"Christmas parties are for the retirees...."
Tell you what, when I retire and get to leave this fucking place, I will not give a shit or lose any sleep over who bought or didn't by a fucking ticket! Why would I give a shit if some 2 year wonder goes to my party? What is this, grade school?
I think she is a boob way over-promoted BUT, she is right about one thing: nobody is sending help from other districts for a watch party, it's never happened, never will; if you're first watch, your watch party is in the am, like it always has been. The only thing that's ever been done is augmenting starting times etc. so people can make it to the parties.
12/20/2010 02:22:00 AM
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I beg to differ. Coverage requests are now made formally and coverage and party info are now posted in the c.o. book. Times have changed.
In this particular case, coverage was ALREADY obtained and Trahanas pulled it and canceled the possibility of having the party.
Antoher female like Penny is Lucy Moy who is such a High Schooler when going after people or even when talking and people laugh when she tries to sneak up on people. She is such a disgrace to the department with her "hateful" antics. I don't know how this lady got promoted when she clearly has a behavioral problem and lawsuits have been filed for her major labor malpratices. She is the last to be able to say anything. This is what meritorious promotions do to people who shouldn't been promoted. She can't handle her position at all. She should of been flagged as a "personnel connern" and never promoted. She should of been sent for "anger management" classes. She is something else. There's actually a PO who had to take a leave of absence due to all the verbal and emotional abuse from Moy. I guess that makes her a Penny of the Northside.
12/20/2010 07:32:00 AM
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Odd, since her sponsor was Rosebrock, who ran labor affairs.
hmmm this would be the same commander that drove her city car lights and sirens to the scene of a fender bender her copper boyfriend was involved in in 018 a couple summers ago? The same cmndr that was rubbing his back in the hallways of 018 asking if he was ok or if there was anything he needed? All while supposedly on duty as the cmndr of 011? Ah yes the heirarchy of the CPD folks, ALL CLASS
pay to go to our own christmas party and then burn our own time to go as well? Oh yeah great deal!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK THEM
I guess a transfer to 011 (for seniority/furlouh selection) is out of the question.
When you refer to "operate outside the rules and regulations and pay no penalty", I hope this includes her OFF DUTY RELATIONSHIP THAT INCLUDED, BUT WASN'T LIMITED TO, TELEPHONE HARASSMENT, THREATS OF BODILY HARM AND PROPERTY DAMAGE.
You remember all this, don't you? After all, there IS a CB# associated with this activity that surely had the potential to, AND DID, BRING DISCREDIT TO THE DEPARTMENT. You know...the same type of behavior that would have you or I, a lowly non-clouted Blue Shirt, in the unemployment line at worst or fighting 30-pending at Fort Forgotten at best.
It's just another shining example of how the system is designed to protect the clout heavy. Most people with a brain would think that if you were heavy enough to get promoted WAY beyond your abilities while being dumb as a box of rocks, you'd maintain a low-key presence and leave things be unless you absolutely had to intervene in some aspect. It's funny how the complete opposite is usually the case. The idiots in charge feel the need to bark for every little thing in a feeble attempt to get that respect.
Which leads right back to the title of this thread...
I feel for you folks over in 011. But do keep in mind that nothing is forever - you can outlast most bosses if you do what's expected of you and try to ignore the goings-on that don't directly or personally concern you. And if history's any indication, Henny Penny will be promoted out of there any day now!
You people come on here and act like we've never had a bad boss before, this isn't new; and since when do we decide what work we do based on who our immediate boss is? bosses come and go but the job remains constant. Do the job because you have pride in what you do, not who the boss is. Anyone who worries about who is in charge above a Sgt. is nuts anyway, your Sgt. is the most important supervisor you have, you deal with him/her the most, they take of so much of the little things that higher ups never know about(most know what I am talking about) and if the Sgt. is bad then a higher up should step in and set things straight or his or her watch is doomed. Just my 2 cents. Stay safe everyone!!
If you work tac, you're soft.
If you work tac in 011 you're FUCKING soft.
This is all the end result of police officers not sticking together. No matter how badly we are treated, there will be officers who will be selfish and only thin of themselves. Only when we officers stick together will things change. We have no one to blame but ourselves.
Ancient Chinese Proverb:
The beatings shall continue until morale improves.
So they treat you like shit and yet bring in tvb's, movers, parkers, arrests, etc.... Way to go go getters. Way to go. I applaud your efforts. Reminds me of the line "thank you sir, may I have another".
Lucy Moy is such a hateful person who exacts her punishment on anyone she doesn't like - which is almost everyone. It amazes me that her name isn't on the blog more often. If you have to deal with her watch out - she'll stab you in the back whenever it will advance her demented dellusions.
" . . the Department has been promoting for years now - sexual harassers, thieves, grifters, knob-jobbers, drunks, suck-asses, psychopaths, stalkers and all manner of deviant . . "
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You are insulting me SCC
~ Deputy Chief of Defectives ALFONSA WYSINGER
P.S. I hates 'lazzzzy' sergeants
12/20/2010 01:35:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I think she is a boob way over-promoted BUT, she is right about one thing: nobody is sending help from other districts for a watch party, it's never happened, never will; if you're first watch, your watch party is in the am, like it always has been. The only thing that's ever been done is augmenting starting times etc. so people can make it to the parties.
12/20/2010 02:22:00 AM
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Absolutely. I worked midnights for many years. With a little ingenuity, you can find a place that will open on Sunday morning for you, have a place make food, and have a great time. To think you can set up a party for midnight officers on a Saturday night and think the whole watch can attend is delusional.
So bid out
Antoher female like Penny is Lucy Moy who is such a High Schooler when going after people or even when talking and people laugh when she tries to sneak up on people. She is such a disgrace to the department with her "hateful" antics. I don't know how this lady got promoted when she clearly has a behavioral problem and lawsuits have been filed for her major labor malpratices. She is the last to be able to say anything. This is what meritorious promotions do to people who shouldn't been promoted. She can't handle her position at all. She should of been flagged as a "personnel connern" and never promoted. She should of been sent for "anger management" classes. She is something else. There's actually a PO who had to take a leave of absence due to all the verbal and emotional abuse from Moy. I guess that makes her a Penny of the Northside.
12/20/2010 07:32:00 AM
Those with 23 or more years on the job know her background. Anyone care to clue him in regarding the 2 "shooting" incidents?
(OT) Oh No looks like a backstabbing Lt in 050 (The Irish kid) is sending letters about his plans to save the city money are getting him in trouble. Say it ain't so sending letters to the mayor,finance dept etc telling all how he has a plan to save the city money by cutting police personnel at the airports. Is he in the group while dragging the other lt in 051 down with him. The airports just had a boost in manpower now this guy is doing anything and everything to make the commander look like shit along with his buddy in 051! Hey boss your a great guy please "take charge" and show these people their place. Years ago if another boss under the commander did this shit they would be gone,please be careful commander the snakes are nice to your face but wow are they digging in! 30+ year vet!
If Penny had any smarts, she would have declaired that SHE wound not be attending the event because of an out-of town engagement. Ticket sales would have soared, the retired would have been grateful for a wonderful party, a sense of unity would prevail, and penny could have stopped by for a minute so the troops could 'boo' her!
She will never have any respect from any department members, she stained herself with the mail man
and the colors are running YELLOW!
Oh penny! You a criminal charged and forgiven! No one will ever respect you the best thing you can do is retire and now! Your a disgrace,from your sloppy appearance and your shitty attitude another reason the once great CPD is on a spiral down! "hey I am Penny the "Hawaiian" sorry like obama is not "Hawaiian" neither are you girl!
Penny did this!!! Penny did that!!! Bla Bla Bla!!!!
Yet you goofs continue to bring in one baggers...
Are you suggesting I sacrifice my tact spot? Baseball caps, jeans and gym shoes are cool. Plus, it's easier to get chicks when you work in plain clothes. One bagger? Hell, I've locked up people for residue. Last week, we locked up a guy for selling loose cigarettes. Like it or not, tact is about quantity, not quality. It's been that way for long time now. Not to mention, a one bagger pays just as much in court as a kilo So, if it's all the same to you, I'll keep locking up one baggers and loose cigarette peddlers. I'll also keep depositing those $1500,00 to $2000,00 on average, ot checks. You can continue bitching, maoning and being a dog ass. Fair enough?
where is Helen DeWitt?
I liked working for her.
leave us drunks and/or psychopaths out of this
Clout? I hear she is from the same town in Greece as Dean Andrews.
ok we are one of the only professions that has to pay for their own christmas party. now tickets are anywhere from $55.00-$75.00 per ticket. double that if your'e bringing your spouse, girlfriend, boyfriend, baby momma or whomever. unless you work a clout unit or a tact team, you have to burn your own time to go if you're not RDO or furlo. and if you have young kids, you have to shell out for a sitter.
so $110.00-$150.00 plus $50.00 for a sitter and burning 8.5 hrs for a commander who is an asshole. sounds like a good deal to me.
watch partys at a local establishment with the friends and co-workers you actually want to hang with is the way to go.
You know you've arrived when you get your own thread on SCC....Conradulations to Henny Penny Trahanas aka CB#1780983.
There may not be another individual more socially inept than Penny. She has the social grace and decorum of a head of lettuce. One wonders what it must be like to know that you are universally disliked throughout the district. Even the folks she gets along with whisper behind her back.
To those of you that are concerned about the potential for a "shake up" in the new year, here are a few tips from your ole Porkmeister to help you through the rough waters...
First, never be alone with her. Always have someone with you if she needs to speak to you. Or, you should have your cell phone with you, set to record. Notify her that you will be recording the interview. That should really water her off...
If she indeed does play musical watches with the different management individuals in the district, just one word comes to mind, medical. See, as long as you dont go over 3 days, it's all good. Lets say your sent to midnights from days. just hit the medical for three days, come back on the forth, and you're into your weekend....One day of work for every six days. When your monday rolls around, repeat. See, if you get sent to Mids, aren't you gonna be sleeping anyway? The difference is midnights will REALLY be short.
The bottom line with this weapons grade buffone is that she will continue to make mistakes, and violate the contract. Record everything. If you have a grievance, see a unit or watch rep. With any luck, some of us will be able to cash a nice check, visa vie Commander White. It will take time for a settlement, but that will make the payout that much more delicious.
Again, congradulations to Henny Penny Trahanas, the winner of the Joe Curtin(sp) award two years running!!...
I'm thinking three peat...
Stop the whining! Bitching about Trahanas....about Moy-Bartosik. I don't see a trail of PAR forms coming from the 020th District. And you won't see it, because there are a huge number of worse places to go to work.
You don't like Lucy? Leave! Put that PAR form in tomorrow! Same thing with the Trahanas whiners, just file off that PAR form and BAIL!
I've got news for you 011th Dist. 'rangers': The reason you lost WASHINGTON is because a bunch of you were lying down on the job. He couldn't defend the numbers, and because he didn't light a fire under anyone's ass, HE had to go...be careful what you wish for. Also, 011 isn't the worst District in the City, far from it. A lot of you west side Police have never been assigned to any of the Districts in Area 2
(003, 004, 005 and 006), or the busier districts in Area 1 (007, 008), so STFU. 011 used to be jumpin', but it ain't got nothing on the districts I mentioned earlier. If you 011th and 020th district 'real police' are so fucking miserable where you are, put those Par forms in, and go south. Bet you won't!
You are insulting me SCC
~ Deputy Chief of Defectives ALFONSA WYSINGER
P.S. I hates 'lazzzzy' sergeants
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You mean he hates sergeants who refuse to get his take home car washed?
FUCK HIM and all the other arrogant bosses who think they are better because they have been triple promoted meritoriously.
THE BIG QUESTION:
Who is Penny's clout?
Why is such an INCREDIBLY incompetent individual still in a command spot?
12/20/2010 01:28:00 AM
Oh boy....you must be new around here.Its a long standing CPD tradition to find the stupidest,the mentally ill and the criminal minded and promte them!!
It's a simple concept to lead by example, but the CPD is nothing like the military and to start with their promotions and leadership. People like Penny should of been gone after her scandal and Moy after her labor malpractices that caused the department money. JFled puts and keeps embarrasments like these around and the troops suffer. Both of these goofs neither know the concept of how to lead and bully people like a plague. So I agree until we stick together we will continue to have asshole and bipolar bosses like above. Our FOP needs to stand up and speak up and not just for their own click, but EVERY SINGLE officer. We need to pick a better FOP to represent us and replace ALL in their regime with those who will fight the city when they want to push over our rights and set bosses straight. Drag all assholes to the ground until they back off. Even if means legal battles out of principle and exposing bad bosses, it is time to get it done. No more "let's not upset the city" mentality.
Back in the 80s in 024 we had an asswipe Lieutenant (Crossett Hamilton) who delighted in fucking over everyone. Even the other bosses disliked him. We finally took enough of his shit and drew up a to/from requesting that we be assigned to another watch. More than half of us signed it. We never mentioned the Lt. in our request but the D.C. knew why we were doing it.
Within 2 periods the asswipe was put on another watch and we could breathe again. This all ocurred before "bidding for watches" was in effect. It showed that the lowly patrol officer has more power than he realizes. You can do it too!
it's not strange at all and Rosebrock I'm sure that's who keeps protecting her. She is a total wacko just protected. Work for her and you shall see. Moy thinks she can do anything whenever, whatever, she makes her own rules and doesn't care about G.Os
Why don't you take minuta with you and shove it. Keep kissing her ass (we know who you are). you wouldn't last in any other district and you know it. So, keep kissing her ass.
if she actually said that, sue her for hostile work place, class action suit
I'm disappointed you don't know who I am. I always laugh when minuta is screaming at "L" in the office. I always hope and pray that "L" goes crazy on her. That would really cause eye brows raised.
"Ah yes the heirarchy of the CPD folks, ALL CLASS
12/20/2010 11:06:00 AM"
more like ALL ASS.
"Stop trying to prove something, be yourself and stop trying to impress someone. You have worked for enough "good" bosses to know how to act, stop acting like an ass.
12/20/2010 09:53:00 AM"
she is being herself.
"She's all ears to them and overly accomodating.
12/20/2010 08:37:00 AM"
you do know what you've just described, don't you?
"Merry Christmas
Happy New Year!
12/20/2010 08:17:00 AM"
so, you got your Christmas bottle of jack early, did you?
send all the former caps officers to the busy districts
they love to help the people
after all they are problem solvers
"Christmas parties are for the retirees...."
Tell you what, when I retire and get to leave this fucking place, I will not give a shit or lose any sleep over who bought or didn't by a fucking ticket! Why would I give a shit if some 2 year wonder goes to my party? What is this, grade school?
12/20/2010 10:43:00 AM
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Junior,
Your attitude is exactly one of the many, many things wrong with our department.
Perhaps you may not understand this, but we have/had an organizational culture that is/was rich with custom and tradition.
Historically, we respected our senior officers, for their time on the job and wisdom they acquired and shared with the younger officers, through their many years of experience.
We gave tribute to our honored retirees.
While we are little more than a payroll number to the city and just another faceless police officer to most citizens... we showed respect to our honored retirees and their family members... for their years of service and sacrifice... to help keep all of us safe.
I don't have to tell you this... you already know... a police officer's lot is not an easy one.
After finishing an honorable career of service, every police officer deserves their 15 minutes of fame, in a celebration surrounded by their family, their friends and their peers.
While you may think it is all bullshit now, once you serve for 25-30 years, your viewpoint may change. (I certainly hope that it does.)
It is a treasured reward, not only for the retiree, but for their husband/wife, sons/daughters and other family members.
It is the single moment in time where the family can see the honor bestowed upon their loved one for all the personal and family sacrifices made throughout a career... a lifetime.
They can stand proud in that single moment, knowing that all the missed family events... all the missed ball games and events at school with the kids... family vacations - perhaps taken without them... the spouse's nights alone - while THEIR police officer worked the 3rd and 1st watches all those years... made a small, but unique difference to society as a whole, from their many years of service.
This is never to be dismissed or taken lightly.
Yes, times have changed.
Yes, it may be somewhat of a burden or hardship to cough up ticket money during the holiday season.
Yes, those working 3rd and 1st watches have the additional burden of taking time off to attend such a celebration.
Why do we do it? Why do I do it?
Because I was taught as a young police officer from the old-timers on the job that this was the correct and right thing to do.
It is our tradition... our custom... our way of showing unity in purpose... respect for our profession and for each other.
Are we not "police family?"
Do we not "take care of our own?"
Is it not true that "once a police officer - always a police officer?"
It matters not if you serve under the command of the most charismatic leader... or the biggest loser on the CPD.
I have had the "privilege" of working for both during my career, along with many bosses in-between.
Its certainly not about them... or necessarily about us.
Its about doing what is time-honored in our profession - showing the greatest honor and respect for those who have served.
It is the dignity that a police officer deserves when "completing the mission" at the sunset of their career.
Give it some thought...
Work Safe!
John Andrews
Its a great question...
Who Is Penny's Clout?
What Rev do we need to get rid of?
"Christmas parties are for the retirees...."
Tell you what, when I retire and get to leave this fucking place, I will not give a shit or lose any sleep over who bought or didn't by a fucking ticket! Why would I give a shit if some 2 year wonder goes to my party? What is this, grade school?
12/20/2010 10:43:00 AM
More like High School...with guns!
Why are people crying about this??? It is freaking fantastic to have her here because I can do even less (dont know how its possible) and laugh the entire tour. You hero's need to realize that this is just a job, nothing more! Sit back relax and get that pay check cause thats what is really about. Police work is for the birds I am all about ME being a DOG!!!
First of all... Help was offered and cleared from 010, 012 and 013 for the 011 first watch Christmas Party....... Miss Henny Penny, ( my next live chicken in my coup will be named after her) thwarted this party because of her own persona vendetta against an old time ritual...........
We had watch parties for 1st Watch after work at times. But, when it came down to something important like Christmas and Kwanzaa, we did it on a night where we were all usually awake on our usual zombie mode of midnight rangers......... So Henny Penny you political HACK, are you happy with the lack of 011 Rangers, one of the most legendary Districts in the City, for bravery and undying duty. You Ma'am are a fool. I am sure being so foolish you will be promoted to a higher level in the "now" inept Department called the Chicago Police Department.
In sailing terms, a boat will always right itself even on rough waters, it is up to the Captain to lead the crew to save harbor. Ma'am, you are leading a FINE DISTRICT into the gutter, the gutter that they protect and serve for your own odd and weird game. Get your head out of your ass, and COMMAND. There are many on this Department that can do what you do in their sleep for half the price.
"There may not be another individual more socially inept than Penny. She has the social grace and decorum of a head of lettuce. One wonders what it must be like to know that you are universally disliked throughout the district. .."
You obviously never worked for John Doty, ex 006/021 c0mmander, now deputy chief of the University of Chicago PD. He is the worst, most bi polar boss I have ever worked under, and yes, I've worked under Trahanas and Curtin.
Absolutely. I worked midnights for many years. With a little ingenuity, you can find a place that will open on Sunday morning for you, have a place make food, and have a great time. To think you can set up a party for midnight officers on a Saturday night and think the whole watch can attend is delusional.
12/20/2010 01:01:00 PM
The watch party was scheduled for a Sunday night, the district party for a Saturday night. So either we were going to ask for help to cover the district on the busiest night of the week for Penny's party or slowest night...and I'm sorry I wanted to live like a normal person for one day a year with my watch and not have to drink at 8 am like a loser
Don't work for these idots. It's the only way to get rid of these idots. They have to get rid of these so called leaders if they don't bring in the numbers.
Any retiree who is despondent because people didn't show up to the Christmas party, needs some serious therapy. Get a life, man!
Keep your Christmas Party
Keep your F.O.P. Stickers/Medallions and hatbands.
Keep your St. Jude Parade
(but Pray and donate $$ regularly)
Keep your idiots with their unearned Gold Stars.
Keep your. . ."word on the street is"
Back each other up(remember that one?)
C.Y.A. !
Get off the stool and home to your family.
Talk to someone / get some help. It IS available. (EAP)
You will ALWAYS have bills.
Hug your kids.
You prob. can't do better than her.
1st and 16th (and 22nd, etc. etc. etc.)
Go to Church
Don't forget 01 JAN '11 (2%)
19-P
This too, shall pass.
Tomorrow is another day.
Merry Christmas
Happy New Year!
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The best post I read on this blog. If I could add one, When in doubt K.I.S.S. (Keep it simple stupid) and you retire healty and in one piece.
John Andrews
12/20/2010 09:15:00 PM
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Spectacular post.
To: "There are many on this Department that can do what you do in their sleep for half the price.
12/20/2010 11:17:00 PM"
Should read, "There are many on this Department that can do MUCH BETTER in their sleep for half the price."
This is a new twist on the Dr. Seuss Story, "How the Grinch Stole Christmas."
Now there has got to be a few poets, and a few people skilled with PHOTOSHOP out there that can do something with this idea.
I remember when Juicy Lucy used to "work" Tac in 018. She and her partner used to thrive on the shoplifters that plagued Michigan Ave. As soon as a shoplifter call on Michigan Ave. was broadcast they would jump on the call in a flash. That's how they kept their numbers up. All was fine for years beacuse she used to pal around with the Tac Lt. When that Tac Lt. left and was replaced by a prince of a man (Jim Antonnoci) sic?, they were told that if they wanted to continue locking up the shoplifters they could do it on beat 1833,not 1861C,lol.It was day that those of us who were workers longed for and was a long time in coming.
Her juice is NOT George Rosebrock. George could not protect himself,how could he protect her. Her juice is from the Chinese-American community which has complained for a long time about the lack of Asian representaion in the higher ranks. That and the fact that her husband is connected.
Juicy Lucy knows how to play the game. I don't know if she still jumps up and down and giggles when she wants it to appear as if she is a team player but she is a bigger goof and a poorer excuse as a leader than anyone I know INCLUDING Henny Penny. As far as being a Police Officer, forget it. If she ever regales you with her stories about her days in the "projects" forget about it. She was never there. If Juicy Lucy saw a guy walking down an alley at 0200 wearing a striped black and white one piece jump suit, a mask and carrying a pillow case stuffed with jewelry slung over his shoulder she still would not have a clue that he might be a bad guy. She more than likely would giggle and make a comment about his lack of fashion sense. She is indicative about whats wrong with the CPD and more importantly, whats wrong with Jfled. That he would pick someone as lacking in knowlege of what a Police Officer does and who and what they are about speaks volumes about his common sense or lack therof and his ability to judge people.
I almost bid into 020 just prior to her arrival there.Thank God I got a heads up about her promotion and was able to pull my PAR form. I know what a mean, vindictive,revengful bitch she can be and had I gone there I would have been an instant target. Instead I simply waited and pulled the pin when I maxed out. She can't touch me now because I'm no longer on the job. But if she could reach out and hammer me, she would.
I've got news for you 011th Dist. 'rangers': The reason you lost WASHINGTON is because a bunch of you were lying down on the job. He couldn't defend the numbers, and because he didn't light a fire under anyone's ass, HE had to go...be careful what you wish for. Also, 011 isn't the worst District in the City, far from it. A lot of you west side Police have never been assigned to any of the Districts in Area 2
Hey, Southside boy. Fuck you!
Sorry you boys can't contain all those former project assholes who've been spread throughout the southside. Fuck you guys! For all those years, 2, 7 and 11 and 15 carried the flag of the busiest and most fucked up places to work. So, now when its time for of you Area 1 and 2 fuckers to carry the weight, you wanna bitch about it? Lemme say it again: FUCK YOU! Here's a thought: If it's soo hard over there on the southside, do what you yourself suggest... bid to 11. Otherwise, I suggest you do what most of sowf-side heroes have been doing since Robert Taylor and Stateway were razed: Sit quietly and whine to one another about how them former project assholes have turned your once cushy districts into a hell holes.
Never thought I'd live to see the day when coppers in 3,4,5, and 6 would cry about coppers in 11 having it easier. Or when any coppers would prefer being in 2, or 11 as opposed to 3,4,5,6. I fuckin love it!
A tip of the ole chapeaux to 011 dist 2nd watch. Well said!
This is one of the few jobs were one can't be fired for doing NOTHING...
Answer your calls...write paper...back each other up...
To think I actually wrote a couple books of movers every week!..What was I thinking?? (I wasn't)
Methinks a pool as to when heir Henmeister will be moved is in order...hmmmmmm
I worked in 11, then in 003,006,007 before I retired. I would never say any of these district has ever been cushy. I spent years in Area 4 before heading to the south side. Why all of the arguements about who has it better. None of those districts are better then the other. It is garbage every day with not a good place to eat, lousy politically appointed commanders who were in many cases racist. I just do not see the arguement. It occurs to me, that most cops want to work as close to their home as possible for a shorter commute time. That is understandable. But, feel lucky if you can do this. It is not normal for the outside civilian work force. I know plenty of people who have traveled 50 miles or more each way to get and keep a job. Some, such as railroad engineers, had to travel to a different work yard each night.
George Rosebrock is now the director of security at McPier. Clout still holds. You have to wonder why the same people keep landing on their feet, merit promotion after merit promotion and then on to a great job as a civilian in another government sector.
eople want to honor the retirees and also honor those fallen at the St. Judes parade. Why not consider boycotting the official events and hold an alternate event at a different location?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
John Andrews
12/20/2010 09:15:00 PM
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Spectacular post.
12/21/2010 01:26:00 AM
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Well said, John.
Lets not for get about Michelle Owens or Anderson.Im sure there are many stories about her antics in 016 that would get a rise out of people.Thank God she left for greener pastures in 020 or 014 when she did.Maybe she even retired and gave everybody a break.
Anonymous said...
(OT) Oh No looks like a backstabbing Lt in 050 (The Irish kid) is sending letters about his plans to save the city money are getting him in trouble. Say it ain't so sending letters to the mayor,finance dept etc telling all how he has a plan to save the city money by cutting police personnel at the airports. Is he in the group while dragging the other lt in 051 down with him. The airports just had a boost in manpower now this guy is doing anything and everything to make the commander look like shit along with his buddy in 051! Hey boss your a great guy please "take charge" and show these people their place. Years ago if another boss under the commander did this shit they would be gone,please be careful commander the snakes are nice to your face but wow are they digging in! 30+ year vet!
12/20/2010 03:25:00 PM
I am working right now, these new fancy phones are great for computer access! That guy has decided he will do whatever is necessary to become commander,even use any method including undermining the current commander who is a nice guy! We have the Lt here like the coppers in 051 have that Lt who does whatever she can to take money out of coppers pockets! Like the Irish kid they are both wealthy and have no clue how the regular hardworking coppers do finacially! Hey boss maybe time to step up and assert yourself! Say what you want about Jimmy carroll he was a stand up guy,and only helped coppers,if he was undermined the bosses would have hell to pay!!
Well said and spot on John Andrews!!!
Absolutely. I worked midnights for many years. With a little ingenuity, you can find a place that will open on Sunday morning for you, have a place make food, and have a great time. To think you can set up a party for midnight officers on a Saturday night and think the whole watch can attend is delusional.
12/20/2010 01:01:00 PM
The watch party was scheduled for a Sunday night, the district party for a Saturday night. So either we were going to ask for help to cover the district on the busiest night of the week for Penny's party or slowest night...and I'm sorry I wanted to live like a normal person for one day a year with my watch and not have to drink at 8 am like a loser
12/21/2010 12:25:00 AM
absolutly right on who wants to go boozen at 8 am. It looks like you guys had it all covered having the party on a Sunday a slow night of the week. She just ducked you guys trying to make a point of the no tickets bought for the district party. Very classless on her part I don't no how you can to that to the men and women that work for you.
'"There may not be another individual more socially inept than Penny. She has the social grace and decorum of a head of lettuce. One wonders what it must be like to know that you are universally disliked throughout the district. .."
You obviously never worked for John Doty, ex 006/021 c0mmander, now deputy chief of the University of Chicago PD. He is the worst, most bi polar boss I have ever worked under, and yes, I've worked under Trahanas and Curtin.'
You, sir, are 100% correct. We here at the UCPD are just in awe of how stupid our chief was to hire this raving lunatic as his second-in-command. I can't ever recall working for a boss who works as hard as Doty to make everyone MISERABLE around him on a daily basis. I've worked for the UCPD for over 18 years, and I have never seen as many resignations and grievances submitted in all the time I have worked here. And none of you would believe all the suspension time this goof has handed out. It makes no difference if you have no prior disciplinary history with Doty. You get whatever he decides, with no real recourse to fight it. Yes, patrolmen have a union here (PBPA), but you'd never know it, because all filed grievances are going nowhere in our HR dept., which is run by our chief's WIFE! it just gets crazier and crazier around here. Almost every watch commander has been suspended for some thing or another under Doty, and they're all afraid to make any decisions because of his heavy hand. Our dept. has pretty much shut down under Doty here. SCC, when or if you plan to run a thread for "Asshole Boss of the Year,' PLEASE accept the UCPD's submission of our worst nightmare, John Doty.
Crosset Lee was a peculiar dude - but a true hero - and would stand up to any boss in the city. There is a certain judge who is thankful to be alive because of the action Hamilton took at 26th Street and Ed Kelly couldn't get him dumped. Hamilton was a black and white personality - no grey in his thinking. But he would never give bad advice - and more often than not he was absolutely right.
Henny is a Jesse White Tumbeler
Stop the whining! Bitching about Trahanas....about Moy-Bartosik. I don't see a trail of PAR forms coming from the 020th District. And you won't see it, because there are a huge number of worse places to go to work.
You don't like Lucy? Leave! Put that PAR form in tomorrow! Same thing with the Trahanas whiners, just file off that PAR form and BAIL!
I've got news for you 011th Dist. 'rangers': The reason you lost WASHINGTON is because a bunch of you were lying down on the job. He couldn't defend the numbers, and because he didn't light a fire under anyone's ass, HE had to go...be careful what you wish for. Also, 011 isn't the worst District in the City, far from it. A lot of you west side Police have never been assigned to any of the Districts in Area 2
(003, 004, 005 and 006), or the busier districts in Area 1 (007, 008), so STFU. 011 used to be jumpin', but it ain't got nothing on the districts I mentioned earlier. If you 011th and 020th district 'real police' are so fucking miserable where you are, put those Par forms in, and go south. Bet you won't!
12/20/2010 06:06:00 PM
Commanders come and go WHO CARES!
To: 12/21/2010 10:02:00 AM
Nicely stated. I've worked on both the south and westsides. Pretty much the same. To me,the slight difference was that southside asswipes had less respect for
the police than the westside variety. When I went to 002 from 015, I was taken aback when I'd pull up on a group of dope boys on the corner, look at them, only to have them look right back at me and continue standing on the corner. I always had to verbally
instruct them to GTF off the corner! Whereas on the westside, all I had to do was stop the car,
look in their direction,
and they knew to get to steppin. Slightly more defiant class of asswipe on the southside, in my opinion.
Anonymous said...
George Rosebrock is now the director of security at McPier. Clout still holds. You have to wonder why the same people keep landing on their feet, merit promotion after merit promotion and then on to a great job as a civilian in another government sector.
12/21/2010 10:18:00 AM
George Rosebrock grew up with Phil Cline and they were friends way before the police department. George was pissed he got dumped in "the purge" but seems to have done better than had he stayed.
The retired guy who knew Moy when she was in 018, sure hit it on the head. She was useless, and did nothing but giggle and jump up and down. Her entire career meritorious,detective,sgt, and Lt. She use to make fun of Rosebrock in the 18th when working tact,but once he got promoted to Lt. she jumped right on "his coat tails" He put her in for Merit sgt, and then Lt, and the rest is history. She never used her "ethnic name" until it became an advantage. When she came on the job, she went by her first husband's name and now hyphenates.. Rosebrock, he came on the job from the Forest Preserve Police....his clout still a mystery. She is just another example of what we have as "our leadership" ..what a joke we are in big trouble.
(OT) Oh No looks like a backstabbing Lt in 050 (The Irish kid) is sending letters about his plans to save the city money are getting him in trouble. Say it ain't so sending letters to the mayor,finance dept etc telling all how he has a plan to save the city money by cutting police personnel at the airports. Is he in the group while dragging the other lt in 051 down with him. The airports just had a boost in manpower now this guy is doing anything and everything to make the commander look like shit along with his buddy in 051! Hey boss your a great guy please "take charge" and show these people their place. Years ago if another boss under the commander did this shit they would be gone,please be careful commander the snakes are nice to your face but wow are they digging in! 30+ year vet!
12/20/2010 03:25:00 PM
Do tell us more.
To: Whereas on the westside, all I had to do was stop the car,
look in their direction,
and they knew to get to steppin. Slightly more defiant class of asswipe on the southside, in my opinion.
12/21/2010 08:00:00 PM
That's 'cause the West Side District Cops, 10, 11 and 15 still kick ass and take names. They still have a few good old school bosses. Cops transfer in from other districts or units and say they can't believe how well everyone works together; it's like a whole different police departmet.
Stay safe, Come on back anytime.
I don't know about when she was 016, but in 020 she was a good boss. She NEVER EVER denied anyone time, even if you called a minute before start time she still would honor you time and give it to you and yes she had her moments but she left you alone for 99% of the time. I saw many times the DOGS completely be assholes to her to the point that they should of been written up and she NEVER did it. She would listen, assess and then take action. The DOGS got what they deserved when Gresutis came to replace her, serves them right. I worked for years
I agree Anderson was not bad. I remember her from 020 she was good to her people. The complainers were the super duper lazy people. They would get upset that they were asked for a mover or parking ticket every so often. The laziest had the nerve to go complain to Moy who hated Anderson because Anderson is 100 times better then Moy in leadership and Moy just hated on her. If looks could kill that was Moy towards Anderson. I was rolling laughing when "G-man" from 014 came into 020. The complainers went from been asked to write every once in a blue moon to at least 1 mover a day and 5 parkers and let's not forget curfews. It was hilarious to see them wishing Anderson was back.you could made a complaint center from their crying. In a way I was glad she went 020 nothing good would of happen if she would stayed with Moy around.
I agree Anderson was not bad. I remember her from 020 she was good to her people. The complainers were the super duper lazy people. They would get upset that they were asked for a mover or parking ticket every so often. The laziest had the nerve to go complain to Moy who hated Anderson because Anderson is 100 times better then Moy in leadership and Moy just hated on her. If looks could kill that was Moy towards Anderson. I was rolling laughing when "G-man" from 014 came into 020. The complainers went from been asked to write every once in a blue moon to at least 1 mover a day and 5 parkers and let's not forget curfews. It was hilarious to see them wishing Anderson was back.you could made a complaint center from their crying. In a way I was glad she went 020 nothing good would of happen if she would stayed with Moy around.
Laffin -------- NO one wished her back!
Coppers just don't get it, you work in 11, the shithole of shitholes, dangerous, nasty, etc, and that;s just the station, Coppers get intimidated quick, what can they do to you? Nothing, Penny can't dump you all, can't change that many things. Get together with you FOP District Rep, demand a rollcall meeting with Deputy Gulliford, back in the day, a certain W/.C fucked over his wathc up in 20th district and the entire watch refused to hit the street, the street deputy was calledin and he promised the troops that it would get looked into. it did and the W/C got launched, Remember there is strenght in numbers. Just slow down to the point that the bosses do see that there is a problem,
I'm sure that in this whole entire dept. that they have another Black Female that could be promoted. someone credible enough, but if that doesn"t work then you go for a male black, and if the bottom falls out I guess they could always find a WHITE BOY who would do an incredible job. Hey I'm just sayin it's time to put the race issue aside and take care of the working police wiith someone who cares regardless of race and keeping the alderman happy.
I'm sure that in this whole entire dept. that they have another Black Female that could be promoted. someone credible enough
That would be former 002 Commander, G. Lewis. She did her PO time in 011 and was there as a Sgt. Very well respected, looks out for the troops, but takes no shit. Knows her stuff. Her refusal to bow down to aldercreatures and revruns proved her undoing in 002.
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