Getting Rid of Vests
We were just thinking about this as we got a new vest last year. We had been thinking of taking the old bullet-resistant vest out to a range and seeing what damage it could stand up to. But this makes better sense:
- I retired in November and have two old ballistic vests. I contacted the Marine Reserve Center at 3034 W. Foster and verified that they are actively collecting used vests. They use these vests to line their vehicles to absorb some of the impact from IEDs. The contact people are: Master Sgt Hernandez and Staff Sgt Pena 773-539-6464 ext330.
Lets clean out our closets and put all those old vests to good use. Hundreds of retirees can help out a lot of Marines.There are plenty of former Marines in each police district. How about if you guys collect in your District and make one big delivery to the Reserve Center.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
35 Comments:
SCC no such thing as a former Marine
FYI:hanging a vest on a clothes line or target carrier is an invalid test.
Body armour is designed to be worn close to the body.The body helps absord and dissipate some of the kinetic energy.
It needs a human analog backing,otherwise the armour can fail.
Back in 2003-2005, most HMMWVs in Iraq/Afghanistan were "up-armored" meaning a regular vehicle with armor added as an afterthought (usually didn't work very well). We used old kevlar vests, scrap metal, wood, and sandbags to add armor to our vehicles. Now, most of the vehicles in theatre are the MRAPS, Buffalos, or full-armored HMMWVs. So while it is a good thought, combat troops in theatre don't need your old vests. I have heard of a program that sends old vests to the Iraq/Afghan Police, and a program that re-makes old vests into K9 vests.
I am willing to collect the vests at Area One if that's a convenience. Contact Detective Mike W, 3rd watch day off group one.
KEEP YOUR VEST IT IS STILL GOOD! Most hummers are uparmoured no use of lining the floor with old vests
There is a Sgt in area 4 gangs doing the same for the CFD who work in the ghetto. One of the old 011th district sgts I think. Both good causes.
I've also been to Iraq with the Marines, and agree the thought is good, but unnecessary at this stag of the game. A better idea is to have that extra vest around for a family member when the Sh*t hit's the fan here.Like November 2012 when Barry is sent packing....
I've also seen a Iraq show on the military channel where a soldier was saying how they line the floor boards with old flak jackets.
in oak park since the village buys our vests, the old ones were put in front doors of the squads.
Even if the vehicle is already armored, sometimes it's useful to put Kevlar on the inside as a "spall liner:" fragments of the armor itself can get knocked loose by a blast and ricochet around inside. The interior Kevlar catches these frags so troops don't.
Been out for a while so I don't know if the vehicles used by the USMCR have such a lining built in...
I served in Iraq. No need for the vests to armor up vehicles any more.
I'm also concerned that the scumbags that were taken on when bodies were needed for recruitment goals will get hold of these vests and give them to thugs on the street.
Don't give it up unless you know for a fact where it will be going.
How sad is it that we have boys in harms way, using surplus equipment not designed for the task to protect themselves?
That's just wrong on so many levels. I just realized that I could be talking about the military, or the CPD. Jesus H Christ how backwards have things become?
-Edison Park Resident
I need mine . . if we ever lose the pension I'll be out doing stick ups ... with my vest on.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There is a Sgt in area 4 gangs doing the same for the CFD who work in the ghetto. One of the old 011th district sgts I think. Both good causes.
12/18/2010 04:22:00 AM
Great idea,but that would mean our old vests are still good, and we don't have to purchase a new 1?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
KEEP YOUR VEST IT IS STILL GOOD! Most hummers are uparmoured no use of lining the floor with old vests
12/18/2010 04:02:00 AM
You must be a reserve sailor, always out of harms way.
If the Marines at the reserve center are "actively collecting used vests" to "...line their vehicles..." then fuck are you for contradict them.
And no I don't care what you've done, where you've been or if you served. That was then this is now.
Whether for our troops or for CFD, lets show our support and give up our old vest. GREAT IDEA SCC... Any more info, let us know.
Distribute the vests to homeowners with valid CFP licences and registered firearms. Just leave them on the front porches or throw them over the backyard fence. The addresses should now be available from your PDTs. You may need to call on these good citizens for help one day. What better way to make friends with the community?
I want to start making vests at home for all the gangbangers. I need all the old covers I can get. Ill go to Best Buy and get all the old cardboard boxes cut to size and fill those old covers. Then Ill dress up like a politician and hand them out as a Chrismas gift. Merry Christmas.
http://kevlarfork9s.org/
Retired Cops living in 008 022,017and 016 Keep your newest one handy we are losing our police.
What a sad commentary that our service people have to scrounge items to protect them from enemy. Still, so heart warming to see the efforts being made by Officers to help them stay safe. Brings tears to my eyes.
I would give mine up, but have to make the kid wear it when he goes out to play in front of the house. This hood is out of control.
I need mine . . if we ever lose the pension I'll be out doing stick ups ... with my vest on.
12/18/2010 08:12:00 AM
I'll drive the getaway car
Bless you for thinking about those that are serving in the armed forces.
Maybe they need them, maybe they don't, but if it makes them feel a bit more secure, what is the problem?
W
Keep your old body armor for your family members. They may very well need them, the way things are going in Shitcago
You must be a reserve sailor, always out of harms way.
If the Marines at the reserve center are "actively collecting used vests" to "...line their vehicles..." then fuck are you for contradict them.
And no I don't care what you've done, where you've been or if you served. That was then this is now.
12/18/2010 09:08:00 AM
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Well who the FUCK are you, asshole? You haven't been overseas and you don't know shit, so FUCK YOU!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There is a Sgt in area 4 gangs doing the same for the CFD who work in the ghetto. One of the old 011th district sgts I think. Both good causes.
12/18/2010 04:22:00 AM
Great idea,but that would mean our old vests are still good, and we don't have to purchase a new 1?
12/18/2010 08:59:00 AM
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Mine shrunk!
SCC, that is a great idea. However, in these times we really need to think twice about giving them away.
You may need the old vests for family members when the breakdown and civil unrest come. I have two for my wife and son.
Old is better then nothing when your fellow Chicagoans decide to riot.
Years ago I gave an old vest of mine to a cab driver that I knew. Much later I ran into him and he told me that he was robbed and the asshole slashed at him with a knife. The vest kept him from injury and I felt good about that and didn't want to tell him that the vest may not have stopped a stabbing attack.
Stay safe, always wear your body armor working the street.
Seriously, just as I wrote this I had a thought. If there was a way to keep some surplus body armor handy, clean and ready like a fire extinguisher at police facilities in the event of an active shooter invading a station. District desk personnel a very vulnerable, sometimes even alone. Something to think about.
I served in Baghdad in 2005-06. Everything in theater is now up armored in cluding the humvees, no more hillbilly armor. In fact, humvees are fading by the wayside as most units are now using some type of MRAP or Buffalo armored veh. I hate to say this is a wasted effort to send these vests to the Marines, but I really dont think you'll be doing anyone a service sending items that are not needed while at the same time clogging up the logistical chain. Remember, some trucker still has to drive those vests from point A to B through ambush alley to get them there...
"Wolfpack 3-8" 3/2 POB SPTT, Rustimiya Iraq
"I'll drive the getaway car
12/18/2010 03:59:00 PM"
oh no you won't, you're too damn eager.
Let me get this right. We have the largest Defense Budget for any civilized Nation on Earth & The Marine Corps needs outdated compromised vests to line their vehicles? Maybe they should put out a drop box like the Salvation Army. Good Grief.
There is a Sgt in area 4 gangs doing the same for the CFD who work in the ghetto.
Really? When these outdated vests fail is the Good Sgt going to go to the deceased family, shrug his shoulders & say "I thought it was a good idea @ the Time?" This doesn't pass the smell test on so many levels.
Could someone make armored seat backs or car door armor for us out of some old vests?
I am retired and gave my vest to the Marines today. They are looking for used vest. Say or do what you want but if they need them and it can save a young kid's life, better him than an old dog ass like me. Merry Christmas to all.
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