One Way to Solve Gang Problems
The 23-year-old man was hanging out on a dark street in tiny south suburban Sauk Village. The temperature was 14 degrees — and Cook County Sheriff gang officers suspected he was a dope dealer.
When Sgt. Terry Tabb rolled down his window and asked for identification, the man said, “Why do you care, officer?” Tabb leapt from his car, ran up to the man and asked again. The man refused to produce an ID, and Tabb pushed him onto the hood of the squad car and checked his pockets. Other sheriff’s officers arrived as backup.
The man, who has an aggravated assault arrest on his record, told the officers he was with the “BDs” — the Black Disciples street gang. Asked where he lived, he said he was from Chicago. Officers didn’t find any drugs or weapons and told the man to go.
We kid of course, but too many smaller suburban departments are ill prepared to deal with a large influx of gangsters looking to set up safe houses, dope spots or criminal enterprises. The main stumbling block is manpower, where a Chicago District can outnumber an entire suburban department by two or three or ten times as many cops.
We aren't much better off actually, and the bureaucratic roadblocks thrown in our way along with the discontent rife throughout the Department aren't doing anyone any favors.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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That is because the suburban Departments can still play police. I do not initiate police-citizen contacts anymore. Any citizen has the right to roam the streets unimpeded. Being in a gang is not illegal right? If I stop a person because I "suspect" him or dealing drugs, ACLU will say that I am violating the citizen's civil rights. Which if we want to get technical, I probably would be. Even a hand to hand sounds kind of shaky nowadays, friends shake hands on the street all the time. I DO NOT WANT TO GET INDICTED. I leave the "citizens" alone now.
Except for my hood, hands off there.
This has been happening for years. People moving their kids out of the city to "get them away from the gang," all the while failing to recognize/admit that their kid IS a gang banger.
They move them to nearby suburbs and the dickheads just make their way back into the city to hang with their buddies.
As far as the suburan side of this goes, the problem is twofold; as you say, they don't have the manpower but what's worse, some suburban chiefs actually believe that "if we don't make any gang/drug arrests, we don't have a gang/drug problem!"
It's the ostrich approach; stick head firmly in the sand.
As unfortunate as the gangs moving out to the suburbs is, it really shouldn't surprise anyone. Once the jets started toppling, they had to go somewhere.
And it's high time that the city "shared the wealth" with the 'burbs.
Let the suburban liberals deal with them for a while.
Woah woah woah, wait a minute here.... The officer pushed him?
This is a problem statewide (and probably the surrounding states) since the jets were torn down. Galesburg, which 10 years ago had good schools, no problem, now has problems at high schools, just like Chicago. Before the influx of public housing students from here, there were no problems. Now of course the police have to be there to babysit.
Scc, I was surprised you made a post out of this article, considering the sources.....the scum times and no doubt mr mediawhore, Tom "bozo" dart....I haven't read the slanted, biased shit this paper writes in years but I read this article and it's full of obscure facts, half truths and omissions.
South suburban copper
I have a friend who runs a catholic shelter in Iowa. He told me that in the past two years he has seen an influx of people from chicago with section 8 vouchers. They are good in Iowa and crime is up there.
In Chicago that would be called CR#, followed by a federal law suit and hell with J-fled, if it was caught on video tape, a few months in a federal prison. Same scenario in the burbs its called good old aggressive/proactive police work(for now). Until the law changes with new judges and law makers-I agree with 12/20/2010 12:58:00 AM.
In a semi perfect world and once upon a time in a galaxy far far away if the police ever had to tell the scum bag to get off the corner twice he would get beaten and thrown in a dumpster with the help of citizens/reverands and a code of a 19F and then on to the next corner squad.
the only difference is that when these idiots do get locked up in the burbs they may actually go to jail.
I remember when Glenwood, Lynwood, and Sauk Village were nice, safe and quiet towns. Now thanks to section 8 all the honest working class people have been pushed out. Sauk Village and Glenwood used to only have two cops on at night. Now things are so busy and hood-like, that no taxes are being paid and the town had to elimanate to PD and go with the sherrifs.
5 Years ago, all a cop in the village had to worry about was Hillbilly Domestic in the middle of the night. Those were the days
The burbs are going to shit, I have a friend that is a copper in Schaumburg,and they never had a property tax due to the mall and all the businesses,but you guessed it the animal is there and the crime is rising,the property tax is in huge!
When Daley flushed the city the shit hadda go somewhere.
Many apartment complexes in the burbs are as bad or worse than the projects these people moved from. There is very little differance between many of these areas and most of Chicago anymore. We keep paying these savages to have babies and stay on welfare. They are breeding like rabbits and commiting crimes totally out of proportion to the rest of society. If the govt wanted to cut down on crime/drugs/homicides, make the leaches take a drug test to collect their govt check. Piss in the bottle, your hot, no check this month! Watch how fast crime would go down if these a-holes actually had to hold down a job or couldn't sit around all day smoking weed and shooting at each other all night. Ask yourself, when was the last time you knocked on someones door in the middle of the day and their play cousin said they were at work??? Never happens.
Yes at the Sheriff's Police do contact cards,we just call them gang cards, they are entered into to I-Clear, and yes one was done on him.
I was actually glad to see this covered, as a native of the south burbs, the export of project shitheads to south suburban towns has been going on quietly since the early 90's. A lot of formerly decent towns have gone to hell.
"The man refused to produce an ID, and Tabb pushed him onto the hood of the squad car and checked his pockets. Other sheriff’s officers arrived as backup."
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The officer PUSHED the doctoral candidate onto a car hood??? And checked his pockets??
Here jody would have him stripped of his police powers and answering phones at the rubber gun squad followed by indictment, trial and imprisonment!
Does Loevy & Loevy know?
That shit would not fly here!
Didn't the suburban officer know verbal judo so he could convince the young lad to show an ID after 20 minutes or so of masturbatory oration?
I wonder how many Chicago cops would make the switch to the Cook County Sher police gang units if their seniority transfered over.
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