Here It Comes
All your quiet neighborhoods, be prepared to be not-so-quiet as your police service is stripped away under the guise of protecting neighborhoods that have no interest in taking any responsibility for their own behavior:
The stage is set for a confrontation over Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis’ upcoming plan to reallocate police resources from lower-crime districts to those that need more officers.
Days before the plan is expected to be unveiled, the Fraternal Order of Police is serving notice that it intends to strictly enforce a union contract that could severely limit Weis’ options.
“His hands will not be tied. But his ambitions could be curtailed by some of the contractual agreements,” FOP President Mark Donahue said Friday.
“It would be a mistake to believe you can just move personnel at a whim without regard to the agreements the union has with the city. We will enforce the contract to the best of our ability.”
Police Committee Chairman Anthony Beale (9th), whose Far South Side ward stands to benefit from the reallocation, countered, “It would be a disservice to the residents of this city if a grievance was filed when you’re trying to save lives.”
Beale said he plans to hold City Council hearings on the reallocation in mid-January.
Labels: contract stuff, FOP, info for the police
posted by SCC at 6:12 AM
119 Comments:
Who are we kidding, there is no shortage of goofs who would forgo any contract protections in order to be a part of another JFled experiment.
We will enforce the contract to the best of our ability..
Like you have always done right FlOP? VURP!
How much more police do they want they have tru and mobile strike force who r in these districts nightly working with the useless animals that just don't care. Disband tru and mobile strike force and put them in the districts they don't do shit anyway and tru is useless disband them then they will not be able to move people out of their districts.
I moved out of the city 24 years ago..
. . if they catch me who gives a damn..
It was a disservice not only to the city but to the men and women of the police department when Daley gave the police and fire committee to this alderman Beal. Daley has made it very clear over the years that he detests the police officers, not only by his appointments to the command rank, but by the police and fire committee and by his neglect of the pension funds and pay and benefits of the officers.
Not necesarily those with the lowest seniority will move, those with the lowest seniority WITHOUT a phone call will be moved.
First of all, in the so called "high crime areas", most of the calls for police service are outright lies (shots fired, man with a gun, I got robbed out of my rent check and link card, etc...) or nonsense (my kid don't want to go to school, my baby daddy disrespected me, etc....).
Franqo Said,
Beale is an ignorant idiot... nice to see how much concern he shows for SAVING LIVES of the citizens in his ward, but has no regard for
saving lives of police officers by instead pushing to fully staff this depleted department to BUDGETED strength... why should we be so concerned for the increase in crime is his community when he shows little concern for the decrease in manpower in our department, thus creating an officer safety issue amongst our ranks..
Time to write your local alderthieve! The west end of 008 is being ravaged by burglaries and scum gang bangers,will 811,812,859 be kept where they belong covering the area for the taxpayers? WTF! Lets throw all the resources in helping the animals who rule the jungle! Personally as soon as j-asshole is gone the better cpd can be,and after his destruction can and will be rebuilt!
“It would be a disservice to the residents of this city if a grievance was filed when you’re trying to save lives.”
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Fuck you, asshole. There will be a record number of grievances and maybe some shithead residents of this city don't deserve police service or their lives to be saved.
There was one Administrative Manager that was saved from the chopping block and there are no answeres as to why except to say CLOUT!
This Admin/Dist Mgr. has the least seniority of all yet was saved in the budget cuts!
Do the others that held that title have a law suit?
Any one of them could have certainly stepped in and taken that least senior persons job.
Hmmmmmmm?
Say good bye to the bottom 20% in slow districts... they gone!
how about detailing the asshat copper who wrote parkers to the 010 dist. officers who were attending their christmas party at galleria marchetti on 16-dec, thanks alot you p.o.s. dont ever drive past 010 dist in your personal car, you made no friends with your "company attitude" guess f.o.p. medalians and stickers dont mean shit anymore....merry f**kin x-mas asshole.
Like parity in the NFL, this is designed to give everyone the same opportunity to succeed, ie live safely and relatively crime free.
The problem is that, like in the NFL, resources are expected to equal out across ALL of the districts. So, basically, the mayor, who is surrounded by his own personal army of security guards, believes it is acceptable to:
1) reduce the size of the Department to save money, AND
2) simultaneously redistribute existing manpower to give additional coverage for the ghetto districts.
The result is a DOUBLE reduction of manpower in the areas where actual taxpayers live while the ghetto districts, where relatively few taxpayers live, will now get the benefit of MORE police manpower.
Hey, it's the Democratic way!
“It would be a mistake to believe you can just move personnel at a whim without regard to the agreements the union has with the city. We will enforce the contract to the best of our ability.”
Blah..Blah ...Blah DONUHOE! You did shit when they moved 11 Detectives out of B&A. You have always been all talk and no action, FISH LIPS!
Maybe now is the time to tell the people that live in the slow districts that will soon be losing thier protection to start calling 911 for EVERYTHING just like they do in the ghetto. There will be such a backlog that they will have to leave people there. And call every 5-10 minutes until the police arrive. I know there will be police that work in the slow areas that will get mad about all the calls and the pettiness of the calls, but it will keep the protection where it belongs.
We have to call our Aldermen and demand they keep police in our neighborhoods. We need to put presure on them, squeeze them and vote.
We need to vote. Even if you voted Green Party or Libertarian the fact that you showed up ment that you had to be listened to.
To say "Why bother, they're all the same. is just fine with Shorty and his mob.
Liberals are cheering, now they will not be subjected to the Nazi jack-booted thug occupying army known as the CPD
God I hate Liberals
Not to worry, Asians, Hispanics and Caucasians
would not be included (?).... right Beale?
Stop 19 P'ing everything. Police Allocations are made not only from the number of calls for service, but for actual reported crime. Take the extra 5 minutes to write that 2 liner and down the line, you may not get shunted to a District across town or not have sufficient backup when the shit hits the fan. Write the report as alleged and let the Dicks unfound it. Even if you find that it's bullshit, write the report and state what you did to investigate it and unfound it. I never understood the idea of do an hour's worth of work and then 19 p something. This also guards you in a "Refusal to make a report" beef. These are the only ones that are susstained on a one on one allegation...
Sgt. Bruce Rapa (RET)
They get free housing, free food, free heat, free electricity, and now they're gonna take the few police we have so they can have more police to they can feel safer????? What about us, the people that actually pay taxes???? The only taxes they pay is for tabacco and liquor....
Screw Beal and his crime ridden Ward. Noone can save the 5th District. It is and has always been a cess pool
FOP coming out of their shell. Must be an election year.
Speaking as a member of one of the areas that will have our officers taken away, I can tell you this: I have never heard parents talk about guns like I have in the last year. People are buying them and are learning how to use them.
When taxpayers feel they need to protect themselves, someone is doing a bad job.
i am sure that ald. Zalewski 23rd ward will step up. NOT!
Mr. Beale,
You can have as many police officers as your little heart desires, but it won't matter because savages will still be savages. So cram them all into a shit neighborhood and watch crime stay the same. Police aren't the answer. why not start a campaign on good parenting and education rather than relying on the police, ( who most in those neighborhoods hate anyways.)
This is foolish. Give those who pay little to no taxes all the police service, while tax paying citizens sit back and get fucked one again by the link card carrying community.
Everyone who is about to retire should take the ghetto spots then medical followed by retirement. Screw Weis and ghetto Beale.
Most fires happen in the ghetto also. Is fire going to send all of their crews to the west and south sides? Same with man down calls. No more ambulances for the Northside.
RDO... what r the details?? who going where??
OT:
http://gizmodo.com/5714865/the-tsa-let-a-loaded-gun-get-on-an-airplane
Is there an order or notice on this??? I live in 022. How long will it be until I have to patrol MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD to make sure it doesn't become just like the neighborhoods they'll take my beat officers and send them to? Don't they get it? Reallocating resources is one thing but stripping the good areas of the city to send to ghetto districts almost guarantees it won't be long until the whole city is shit.
Read the comments from the sun times article.
Incredible how stupid people really are. They think that because we are civil servants we are in some form of servitude with no rights.
Well mr/ms office worker, what if you were told you are losing your nice office with a nice view that you worked years to attain and are being put in the basement, or back into the cubicles.
Your work would be the same, your pay would be the same, but what would your attitude be.
You would feel like what is the point? Would you feel that your time and work have meant nothing?
The district positions are based on seniority and a contract that was approved by the very people that are now crying to the public about how unfair we are.
Our job is not to die or be seriously hurt. Being put into a district with no knowledge of that district (knowledge built over time)is a serious safety issue.
Some of us choose to work the "busy" districts. Due mostly to travel time, partners,seniority or management.
But it stays a choice due to our contract.
So sorry to all you not knowing fools, we actually do have rights. Just like you.
Hey Douche Bag Beale, this is all Daley's fault, no one else. You fucking alder-criminals did nothing about the man power shortage, nothing.
Daley, Cline, Weis, Alder-thieves and the whole group of goofs at the Flop should be charged with murder. They have flushed this city into the sewer that it now is.
Typical DemoRat thinking, take from the law-abiding, tax paying, working class and give it to the trash of the city. This is unacceptable.
Keep working boys and girls, bring in that revenue so these thieves can stuff their pockets more and more.
Don't we have TRU, MSF, Gun Teams, Gangs etc....already deployed to these areas they are talking about on a daily basis?
Alderman Beale, trying to save lives? How about we start by eliminating half our Aldermen, cut ridiculous programs wasting this city's money, and bring police staffing levels to the numbers they should be. THAT sir will save lives. Why should we reallocate officers to "high crime" districts, thereby risking the lives of city residents in other districts?
The ANSWER is HIRING.
Looks like they are starting it with the bidding process. 15 bids to 011 and 17 to 025 Before the realignment happens they will have moved just next month, 32 pos to 011 and 025. Willing to bet the following period same amount of bids to 015 and another southside district No bids to decent northwest and southwest side districts along with no bids to 001 and 018, just to the ghetto districts
Save the police service for those that want it. The Viking's are intent on building their own seperate criminal community. More Police in their areas means a hardship for the Drug Dealers & Thugs that prosper there. Don't disolve all the criminal enterprise that breeds/resides there. Crime belongs to "them" as much as every other entitlement they get. Leave well enough alone. !!!
I hope J-Fled never gets out from under the tons of curses upon him. What a freaking schmuck.
"Robbing Peter to pay Paul"
Well when you do that you usually end up with a sore peter.
Just remember the cities leadership motto:
"Never let a crisis go to waste"
...and you better believe that the city will use it's current budget crisis as the tool to win the so-called "hearts and minds" of the citizens - while playing the victims here.
SCC is right. Document, document, document. CYA baby!
Keep Working!!
Can I still work tac?
Big deal! So they rob Peter to pay Paul...
Doesn't sound like any solution to me.
Why they doing this? Crime is way down! They are handing out crime reduction awards all the time.
tell me that it didnt happen that the po wrote tickets at the 010 party. Job can't be coming to that
Something should have been mentioned at rollcall
Jody wont have to realign the districts if he opens up enough bids in the "high crime" districts and the po's bid for them another interesting part of this is that with all these bids the city is building up their 20% numbers Open 100 bid spots and you have 20 20% spots for the chosen few
Hey, Beal -
Ain't our fault Daley left the department so shorthanded that this is a last resort effort! Maybe it's yours, no re-allocating years ago for fear of losing votes!
IDIOT!
anyone who has all the information
on this transaction please post asap. and you rock sgt rapa
First of all, in the so called "high crime areas", most of the calls for police service are outright lies (shots fired, man with a gun, I got robbed out of my rent check and link card, etc...) or nonsense (my kid don't want to go to school, my baby daddy disrespected me, etc....).
12/18/2010 08:27:00 AM
Yeah, OK Hard Charger....Would you rather be 2211 or 711? Get off the kool-aid kid.
27 years and retired 'cause of this JO JWP. (BTW worked both Beats in my career).
guess f.o.p. medalians and stickers dont mean shit anymore....
No Hair-Gel they don't.....It usually results in a brick through your window...Do you and your friends have hat bands hanging from your rear view mirrors too? Wake Up... No One Gives A Shit Anymore.
27 & Gone this past summer.
How about a nice class action lawsuit by the spouses and children of P.O.'s forced to live in an area with limited police protection until it becomes a high crime area
Noone can save the 5th District. It is and has always been a cess pool
Not when I lived there in the 60's Jr.
Anonymous said...
There was one Administrative Manager that was saved from the chopping block and there are no answeres as to why except to say CLOUT!
This Admin/Dist Mgr. has the least seniority of all yet was saved in the budget cuts!
Do the others that held that title have a law suit?
Any one of them could have certainly stepped in and taken that least senior persons job.
Hmmmmmmm?
12/18/2010 09:29:00 AM
Please provide more information? Who has the clout to keep the position? Any hints or clues?
I work in 022, so we may in fact lose some Officers. I know we'll never hold a candle to 006 or some other west/south side districts, but we have over 20 homicides so far this year which I think in the big scheme of things is pretty impressive. Hopefully they'll factor this into whether we lose any Officers.
I do agree with an earlier poster, where we should filter out some of the B.S. calls. Maybe have a P.O. or Sgt (or retiree) assigned to each zone and filter out the usual "my kid won't go to school" nonsense. This would reduce the workload by 40 pxt minimum, but that wouldn't be politically correct.
Who say's policemen don't have a sense of humor !!!!!!!
These are actual comments made by 16 Police Officers. The comments were taken off actual police car videos around the country:
1. "You know, stop lights don't come any redder than the one you just went through."
2. "Relax, the handcuffs are tight because they're new. They'll stretch after you wear them a while."
3. "If you take your hands off the car, I'll make your birth certificate a worthless document."
4. "If you run, you'll only go to jail tired."
5. "Can you run faster than 1200 feet per second? Because that's the speed of the bullet that'll be chasing you."
6. "You don't know how fast you were going? I guess that means I can write anything I want to on the ticket, huh?"
7. "Yes, sir, you can talk to the shift supervisor, but I don't think it will help. Oh, did I mention that I'm the shift supervisor?"
8. "Warning! You want a warning? O.K, I'm warning you not to do that again or I'll give you another ticket."
9. "The answer to this last question will determine whether you are drunk or not. Was Mickey Mouse a cat or a dog?"
10. "Fair? You want me to be fair? Listen, fair is a place where you go to ride on rides, eat cotton candy and corn dogs and step in monkey poop."
11. "Yeah, we have a quota. Two more tickets and my wife gets a toaster oven."
12. "In God we trust; all others we run through NCIC." ( National Crime Information Center )
13. "Just how big were those 'two beers' you say you had?"
14. "No sir, we don't have quotas anymore. We used to, but now we're allowed to write as many tickets as we can."
15. "I'm glad to hear that the Chief (of Police) is a personal friend of yours. So you know someone who can post your bail."
AND THE WINNER IS....
16. "You didn't think we give pretty women tickets? You're right, we don't.. Sign here."
This Admin/Dist Mgr. has the least seniority of all yet was saved in the budget cuts!
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I am sure they did it because the Dist. Managers are not covered by any contract, and have little or no job protection.. of course they have been taking the unpaid furlo days so the savings won't be as much as the crooks would like everyone to believe anyway!
It took me the better part of 10 years to get to a slow dist. If I get moved now due to some sort of experiment, it will be time for me to move on to some other profession. While I certainly don't think that "i did my time" or anything like that, I WAS AWARDED A DISTRICT BID. While we can't control WHO we work for, we have always been able to control WHERE we work.... it may take a long time, but eventually you get where you want (units notwithstanding).... If that is gone, what's next? And what's the point of a union?
How much more police do they want they have tru and mobile strike force who r in these districts nightly working with the useless animals that just don't care. Disband tru and mobile strike force and put them in the districts they don't do shit anyway and tru is useless disband them then they will not be able to move people out of their districts.
Dude, go to school!
I'm a citizen in 023 and I'm glad the shitheads in Uptown have been shooting and beating each other in the streets lately; maybe that means that more of the good, hardworking coppers up here will hang around.
Wish I had an opportunity to thank more of you more often.
ald. Zalewski needs to spend less time in the casino and more time in his office.
Large bid spots in busy districts. 15 in 025, 14 in 008, etc. etc. The changes are under way. Out of all 008 is the best place for south siders.
@ 12/18/2010 09:37:00 AM
I have to say this...
Since when do you get to park Illegally just because you are the Police?
In a Squad car? Sure...emergency response vehicle; makes sense due to never knowing when a call might come in.
But for anything else?
You disappoint me.
If I am at risk of a Ticket for parking wrong, you are as well.
And that's how it should be.
I'll buy a copper a cup of Coffee or a Drink at the bar. I'll shake your hand out of gratitude for putting it on the line daily.
But you are held to a Higher Standard than the average citizen.
You all enforce the Law. Thus you Have to abide by it.
Sources said Weis intends to get around those constraints by establishing new and varying manpower levels for 25 police districts that are now supposed to have identical numbers of officers.
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We already down 2 cars on the weekends (2 out of only 7 that are up, not like the 16 cars that are up in 11 or 7 that also get the benefit of the tru and msf cars as well) so how can you go from being understaffed to having an excess of people?
Anonymous said...
how about detailing the asshat copper who wrote parkers to the 010 dist. officers who were attending their christmas party at galleria marchetti on 16-dec, thanks alot you p.o.s. dont ever drive past 010 dist in your personal car, you made no friends with your "company attitude" guess f.o.p. medalians and stickers dont mean shit anymore....merry f**kin x-mas asshole.
WHAT? A copper wrote tickets on the POV of 10th District coppers who were legally parked.....?
Oh, never mind!
SOP for the city seems to be just going ahead and violating the contract... They know it will be grieved. It's the game they've been playing for years.
Knowingly violate.
Knowing it will be grieved.
Compensating grievants with a little money and some c/u time.
Knowingly violate again... Repeat as often as needed.
Perhaps the upper echelon should be destroyed financially and rendered penniless and homeless until they get the hint.
Kinda funny picturing alderfool beale, j-fled, masters x3, brust, bea and the rest dressed in rags, stinking, filthy and aimlessly riding the Red Line together all night.
A pity that it's only the Blue Shirt who is compelled to make nice, "play by the rules" and "let the process take it's course."
Called shot is bullshit... Corner pocket... *clack*
We think it's time for Chicago Coppers to do the one thing they're reknown for and it's what the current crop of bossholes are deathly afraid of happening...
Fight back and fight dirty...
J-fled and company should actually be frightened out of their wits if they knew their CPD history. (Which they don't)
Really ironic that beale's daddy was a copper... Same as it ever was. Some coppers kids turn out just fine, some of them for whatever reason fall prey to the stinkin' thinkin' and embrace resolute shitheadism.
beale has a whiff of poot-butt about him... Maybe daddy didn't/couldn't kick him in his ass long and hard enough to bust the toes out of his boots.
I documented EVERYTHING and still got screwed!
Thought they were hiring a "whopping 200" POs. What's wrong with sending 66 PPOs from this mass hiring to the cities 3 politically motivated crime districts? Contract don't apply to PPOs in this manner. JFled can cycle and bounce them in and out of district for training with FTOs and do as he pleases with them as he pleases that first year and half.
The fuckn arrogance of these clowns! They keep telling the media that crime is down and have the stats to show it, but they still want to fuck with coppers lives and place them in places they didn't ask to be. Why the panic if crime is down? The system isn't broke so don't try to fix it. Hire more police officers and leave everything else alone.
Thanks Bruce. Your duty and honor to both the U.S. Military and the Chicago Police Department will be missed. Our department needs war vets like yourself...sadly war heros are in short supply on our job.
Good luck in your retirement.
Stop 19 P'ing everything. Police Allocations are made not only from the number of calls for service, but for actual reported crime. Take the extra 5 minutes to write that 2 liner and down the line, you may not get shunted to a District across town or not have sufficient backup when the shit hits the fan. Write the report as alleged and let the Dicks unfound it. Even if you find that it's bullshit, write the report and state what you did to investigate it and unfound it. I never understood the idea of do an hour's worth of work and then 19 p something. This also guards you in a "Refusal to make a report" beef. These are the only ones that are susstained on a one on one allegation...
Sgt. Bruce Rapa (RET)
"Police Committee Chairman Anthony Beale (9th), whose Far South Side ward stands to benefit from the reallocation..."
His ward won't benefit at all. We're just an army of occupation in these neighborhoods and although we may offer some small temporary relief from the gang and drug activity, once we're gone (and we WILL be gone), it'll be back to business as usual.
They need to take lowest seniority out of units first. Right JD
We are the "new Detroit". admission is the first step to correction.
Take all manpower from the tax payers that cause no crime to the mutts that cause all the crime yet pay nothing. Fuck these mutts, let them all die.
Looks like they are starting it with the bidding process. 15 bids to 011 and 17 to 025 Before the realignment happens they will have moved just next month, 32 pos to 011 and 025. Willing to bet the following period same amount of bids to 015 and another southside district No bids to decent northwest and southwest side districts along with no bids to 001 and 018, just to the ghetto districts
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This makes complete sense to me now about so many openings in 011 and 025. Open up more spots in ghetto districts and offer people to bid first, then if the spots are not filled... reverse senority with no clout.
Daley put Beale in charge on purpose! He got the most hated, racist MF he could to fuck us as the leader. When he retires he is going to sit back and laugh at the bullshit policy he is going to put in place!
Anonymous said...
First of all, in the so called "high crime areas", most of the calls for police service are outright lies (shots fired, man with a gun, I got robbed out of my rent check and link card, etc...) or nonsense (my kid don't want to go to school, my baby daddy disrespected me, etc....).
Calls like this come from a lot of neighborhoods over the city.
Anonymous said...
Most fires happen in the ghetto also. Is fire going to send all of their crews to the west and south sides? Same with man down calls. No more ambulances for the Northside.
This is just too stupid to comment on!!!! Are you really the Police I mean come on?
“It would be a disservice to the residents of this city if a grievance was filed when you’re trying to save lives.”
Why this hypocritical son of a bitch. Everything this man has done in his political career as been to encourage the erosion of public safety in our city. He has supported like a mindless jackal every corruption of the Daley Administration that has brought about and perpetuated the institutional rot of the Chicago Police Department. He has voted for every single rotten corrupt ordinance and measure that has squandered the peoples tax money and brought us to the brink of bankruptcy and crushed the economic vitality of this city.
For decades the cities streets of Chicago have run red with blood, blood spilled in part because of selfish corruption of this cities politicians and he dares to splash some of that blood that drenches his hands onto about the only voice of reason in the chaos they pretend is the management of the police department – the Fraternal Order of Police.
How dare this dog speak of disservice when his entire political career has been a disservice and slap in the face to every citizen of our city ?
tell me that it didnt happen that the po wrote tickets at the 010 party. Job can't be coming to that
Something should have been mentioned at rollcall
Every ticket has the name and star number of the P.O. or revenue worker that wrote it. If this is true, That info should be posted.and every one of those tickets should be non suited by the D.C.
The result is a DOUBLE reduction of manpower in the areas where actual taxpayers live while the ghetto districts, where relatively few taxpayers live, will now get the benefit of MORE police manpower.
And the ironic thing is that the the majority of ghetto dwellers don't want us there. you will see a huge increase in complaints against officers so I hope they increase the number of Sgts in this move.
They get free housing, free food, free heat, free electricity, and now they're gonna take the few police we have so they can have more police to they can feel safer????? What about us, the people that actually pay taxes???? The only taxes they pay is for tabacco and liquor....
You forgot about the free cell phones that the feds are handing out that they will use for call 911 when "they be's disrespected"!
Mr. Beale,
You can have as many police officers as your little heart desires, but it won't matter because savages will still be savages.
So true.
why not start a campaign on good parenting and education rather than relying on the police, ( who most in those neighborhoods hate anyways.)
Because it's easier to do it this way. No work involved as far as Beal is concerned. All he has to do is get a few quotes in the paper or a sound clip on the radio that he is moving more police into the ghetto and he's done. He won't do ANYTHING that will upset his people and that includes labeling them as bad parents.
Besides, this is a win-win situation for him. He gets more police into these areas and when crime continues to go up, he'll blame the police for doing nothing.
Our only hope is that who ever is the next Mayor will see Beal for what he really is and replace him.
Will the Hair Gels FINALLY figure it out when they're bounced to someplace far away from where they've been making their DOPWs and Three-Baggers for the past 3 years (their entire time otj)???
Answer: A resounding NO!!!!
ANYONE that does ANY type of proactive work for this fucked up job in this current climate is a fucking moron, plain and simple. Fuck this ungrateful city and the citizenry who couldn't care less about us. Protect our own neighborhoods and let the rest suffer the wrath imposed by 20 + years of Daley Democratic rule.
"Stop 19 P'ing everything. Police Allocations are made not only from the number of calls for service, but for actual reported crime. Take the extra 5 minutes to write that 2 liner and down the line, you may not get shunted to a District across town or not have sufficient backup when the shit hits the fan. Write the report as alleged and let the Dicks unfound it. Even if you find that it's bullshit, write the report and state what you did to investigate it and unfound it. I never understood the idea of do an hour's worth of work and then 19 p something. This also guards you in a "Refusal to make a report" beef. These are the only ones that are susstained on a one on one allegation..."
This guy is 100% right. And how about a grass roots campaign in the tax paying neighborhoods to let the tax paying citizens know their police service will soon be next to nothing. Let them know to call 911 for EVERYTHING!!
I never understood the idea of do an hour's worth of work and then 19 p something.
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It's tough getting an open booth at Grand and Rush. Mies Van Der Rohe and Pearson is even worse with all the new security.
Why on earth would the constituents of Alderman Beale kill, rob, rape and main each other in any greater numbers than the constituents of say, Alderman Schulter in the 47th Ward?
What is Beale saying? Why would the 9th Ward be any more in need of police protection than the 47th Ward?
I don't understand.
We are all created equal, equal rights, equal opportunity, people are the same all over.
Why does Beale demand more police service than Lincoln Park or Lakeview?
I don't understand this. Ald. Beale, please explain.
Anonymous said...
“It would be a disservice to the residents of this city if a grievance was filed when you’re trying to save lives.”
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What would be a disservice and a tragedy is if anyone who looks like Ald Beale kills or injures anyone who looks like, oh, let's say my family, due to a shortage of police by virtue of being sent to the war zone hell that is Ald Beale's ward.
Now that would be a disservice.
What the hell does Beale want more police for? If the police arrest a future nobel prize winner or rap star the community will just scream why the poleese got to do him like that.
And God forbid a fine example of south side parenting gets shot by the police with a gun in his hand, well, that is just profiling and racist and every other damn thing.
What they want is for some new parents with uniforms to step in and do the heavy lifting they cannot do themselves. It is too late for that. Police cannot solve the problems of their broken society. There aren't enough prisons in Illinois to keep them all.
rules? why? all is done ''for the greater good'' in socialist democratic chicago.everything is an emotional outcry. we need to raise taxes to ''save'' the schools and children! we need more police in the ghetto to '''save the people from themselves''.all these actions are to keep the zombies voting ''d''. im buying more stock in koolaid! they keep believing and drinking it! the CPD once again is left holding the bag for another failed social experiment.
First of all, in the so called "high crime areas", most of the calls for police service are outright lies (shots fired, man with a gun, I got robbed out of my rent check and link card, etc...) or nonsense (my kid don't want to go to school, my baby daddy disrespected me, etc....).
"Calls like this come from a lot of neighborhoods over the city."
And all those neighborhoods start with the letter "g" has two "t's" in the middle and ends with an "o"
I do agree with an earlier poster, where we should filter out some of the B.S. calls. Maybe have a P.O. or Sgt (or retiree) assigned to each zone and filter out the usual "my kid won't go to school" nonsense. This would reduce the workload by 40 pxt minimum, but that wouldn't be politically correct.
12/18/2010 07:17:00 PM
they call about junior not going to school, we refuse service, junior is now really pissed and kills them, family sues city for being refused police service and wins big. get it?
To 9:37am. I work in a ghetto district and we are told over n over at roll calls to "extend courtesy parking" to people attending church functions, graduations, basketball games and even gangbanger wakes n funerals I don't think it's any different than courtesy towards other officers. We allow others to park illegally for their events including BS aldermans political crap but we don't extend this to our own? If this pos did this on his own what a jerk. If he was ordered to do so by some non working never done a hing boss that's even more of a shame.
Wtf ! Omg ! You got a ticket ! Park legally ! Don't blame anyone but yourself. Yes, the FOP emblem does mean something, ITS A TARGET ! Let's all be legit for a little while and stay out of the f'n news !
Anonymous said...
First of all, in the so called "high crime areas", most of the calls for police service are outright lies (shots fired, man with a gun, I got robbed out of my rent check and link card, etc...) or nonsense (my kid don't want to go to school, my baby daddy disrespected me, etc....).
Calls like this come from a lot of neighborhoods over the city.
12/19/2010 05:00:00 AM
But in other parts of the ciy(non-ghetto, tax-paying)
they are usually true. You can try and spin your bullshit on the commnet section of the local rag, butits not going to work here. We live this shit everyday dummy.
Mr. Beale,
You can have as many police officers as your little heart desires, but it won't matter because savages will still be savages. So cram them all into a shit neighborhood and watch crime stay the same. Police aren't the answer. why not start a campaign on good parenting and education rather than relying on the police, ( who most in those neighborhoods hate anyways.)
This is foolish. Give those who pay little to no taxes all the police service, while tax paying citizens sit back and get fucked one again by the link card carrying community.
12/18/2010 11:09:00 AM
well said.
@ 12/18/2010 09:37:00 AM
I have to say this...
Since when do you get to park Illegally just because you are the Police?
In a Squad car? Sure...emergency response vehicle; makes sense due to never knowing when a call might come in.
But for anything else?
You disappoint me.
If I am at risk of a Ticket for parking wrong, you are as well.
And that's how it should be.
I'll buy a copper a cup of Coffee or a Drink at the bar. I'll shake your hand out of gratitude for putting it on the line daily.
But you are held to a Higher Standard than the average citizen.
You all enforce the Law. Thus you Have to abide by it.
12/18/2010 10:09:00 PM
Look dumbfuck. He just wants the same courtesy that is given to Meeks all the other ghetto snake oil salesmen around their churches. Parking courtesy is given to a lot of people, not just police asshole. Nobody is asking for courtesy 24/7 just to go to a work party. Im sure you never help out your co-workers when given an chance?
" Calls like this come from a lot of neighborhoods over the city.
12/19/2010 05:00:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Most fires happen in the ghetto also. Is fire going to send all of their crews to the west and south sides? Same with man down calls. No more ambulances for the Northside.
This is just too stupid to comment on!!!! Are you really the Police I mean come on?
12/19/2010 05:02:00 AM"
so, why are you commenting on it?
Anonymous said...
I work in 022, so we may in fact lose some Officers. I know we'll never hold a candle to 006 or some other west/south side districts, but we have over 20 homicides so far this year which I think in the big scheme of things is pretty impressive. Hopefully they'll factor this into whether we lose any Officers.
I do agree with an earlier poster, where we should filter out some of the B.S. calls. Maybe have a P.O. or Sgt (or retiree) assigned to each zone and filter out the usual "my kid won't go to school" nonsense. This would reduce the workload by 40 pxt minimum, but that wouldn't be politically correct.
12/18/2010 07:17:00 PM
I live in 022 and the only time I see the Police is when they are stoppin home or parking near a restaurant. If the people who are assigned to patrol in 022 would do some patrolling, like maybe look down an alley or two? Most of the mutts that habitate the district use the alleys more than the sidewalk, (except the occassional walk down the middle of the street). It's truely amazing to see the copper or fireman's kids hanging out with the new section 8 childs.....They become instant shitheads...... amazing!!!! But how could anyone see that when they are handling everything east of western????? Would reallocation make a real difference?
Anonymous said...
Mr. Beale,
You can have as many police officers as your little heart desires, but it won't matter because savages will still be savages. So cram them all into a shit neighborhood and watch crime stay the same. Police aren't the answer. why not start a campaign on good parenting and education rather than relying on the police, ( who most in those neighborhoods hate anyways.)
This is foolish. Give those who pay little to no taxes all the police service, while tax paying citizens sit back and get fucked one again by the link card carrying community.
12/18/2010 11:09:00 AM
Wow! You must have a PHD in criminology lol
Since when do you get to park Illegally just because you are the Police?
Every job has its perks, including yours im sure, get the fuck over it you cry baby. And yes if we are having a coffee, eating lunch, we are not going to run 1 block to our legally parked police car to go save your your ass getting beaten or raped. thin before you make your obvious anti-police comments, if i have to, you have to, nanny nanny popoo. Certain things DONT apply to us, including talking on cellphones while driving and breaking all kinds of traffic laws for no apparent reason to most civilians. we dont always blast the siren and turn on the blue disco strobes when we're trying to sneak up to a scene. Again, no idea what our job involves but quick to complain about us. You want to buy us coffee but want us to do the job your way. I dont fucking think so. keep your coffee, we're all sick of you people already.
How does one get to 018?
OK, so FIFTY years ago, it was decent, sorry old timer. But the majority of us who work here now weren't around in the "hayday" of Roseland. So let rephrase , it has become a cesspool and will remain. Happy????
Anonymous said...
How does one get to 018?
12/19/2010 03:55:00 PM
From Belmont and Western take Clybourn southeast and turn right on Larrabee direct to the station at 1160 N.
Anonymous said...
Since when do you get to park Illegally just because you are the Police?
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It's always been that way. wake up.
There's more too, if you don't know then don't worry about it. Why do doctors get professional courtesy from other doctors? Or dentists, priests, lawyers, judges etc.
Why on earth would the constituents of Alderman Beale kill, rob, rape and main each other in any greater numbers than the constituents of say, Alderman Schulter in the 47th Ward?
What is Beale saying? Why would the 9th Ward be any more in need of police protection than the 47th Ward?
I don't understand.
We are all created equal, equal rights, equal opportunity, people are the same all over.
Not even you're gullible enough to believe that last post. Do you want me to get into clout, economics,politics,cronyism, racism and unemployment?The reasons why some neighborhoods are out of control is because of social and economic factors that helps some neighborhoods and districts and hampers others. I don't have to get any more specific than that but I will if pushed.And by the way, there are police officers that reside in every district in the city, including districts 2 to 11, 015 and 025. There are really decent neighborhoods in those districts filled with employed, educated , law abiding, TAX PAYING minority citizes. These people aren't entitled to police service? or do you have to live in Garfield Ridge,Mt Greenwood, Sauganash, Edison and Norwood Parks to get it?
I'm not a fan of Beale or Meeks. I detest both of them and can't wait for the day that they fall on their faces and or are pushed out of power. But I will say that some districts due to the volume of service calls and crime, require more police coverage and city government and police management have an duty to provide it. It's basic police management principles.
I personally would like to see some of the officers in soft districts get pushed into rough ones, to see what they're made of, if they're police by name ,attitude or both. Why should south and west side officers get the short end of the stick while some downtown and north side officers constantly skate. I also think that working officers assigned to high crime districts ought to make more cash and get fast tracked for promotions and specialized assignments than those assigned to slow districts. If the slow district officers have a beef with that then bid out. We're Chicago Police, not north side, downtown ,south, or westside police. The north side near west and downtown districts ought to require a minimum of fifteen years of seniority before you can get assigned there.
and no, I can't stand Weis, Masters, or any of their flunkies either. I just believe in fairness.
Everyone who is about to retire should take the ghetto spots then medical followed by retirement. Screw Weis and ghetto Beale.
Are you crazy? It's dangerous in those negro districts and I want to live to enjoy my pension. If it's still there, that is...
I do agree with an earlier poster, where we should filter out some of the B.S. calls. Maybe have a P.O. or Sgt (or retiree) assigned to each zone and filter out the usual "my kid won't go to school" nonsense. This would reduce the workload by 40 pxt minimum, but that wouldn't be politically correct.
12/18/2010 07:17:00 PM
they call about junior not going to school, we refuse service, junior is now really pissed and kills them, family sues city for being refused police service and wins big. get it?
12/19/2010 11:11:00 AM
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With a rebuttal that stupid, I really hope you're not the Police!
Anonymous said...
How does one get to 018?
12/19/2010 03:55:00 PM
Take the el?
"Wow! You must have a PHD in criminology lol
12/19/2010 02:54:00 PM"
wow, you must have a master's degree in punk ass bitch.
"Why does Beale demand more police service than Lincoln Park or Lakeview?
I don't understand this. Ald. Beale, please explain.
12/19/2010 09:21:00 AM"
cops go where crimes are being committed.
by criminals, who are the sub humans who regularly commit crimes.
this aldershit sure does know the nature of his constituency.
Anonymous said...
OK, so FIFTY years ago, it was decent, sorry old timer. But the majority of us who work here now weren't around in the "hayday" of Roseland. So let rephrase , it has become a cesspool and will remain. Happy????
12/19/2010 04:55:00 PM
It's heyday, not hayday. BTW, you are a condescending asshole.
Anonymous said...
OK, so FIFTY years ago, it was decent, sorry old timer. But the majority of us who work here now weren't around in the "hayday" of Roseland. So let rephrase , it has become a cesspool and will remain. Happy????
12/19/2010 04:55:00 PM
Roseland has always been shitty, even when it was a white neighborhood. There was never a heyday of any type there, even when the Pullman Company was the major employer in that area.
Every job has its perks;
Certain things don't apply to US.
12/19/2010 03:32:00 PM
As a PO you're supposed to be better than that.
All Laws apply to Everyone.And should be enforced regardless of Who or what you do.
Perks of the Job only apply when you're at the Job.
Anonymous said...
OK, so FIFTY years ago, it was decent, sorry old timer. But the majority of us who work here now weren't around in the "hayday" of Roseland. So let rephrase , it has become a cesspool and will remain. Happy????
12/19/2010 04:55:00 PM
It's heyday, not hayday. BTW, you are a condescending asshole.
12/19/2010 09:04:00 PM
And you are a argumentative asshole!
Its the fucking internet guy, relax. Guess what? Every shit hole neighborhood was not a shit hole at some point. Here is your medal for living in Roseland in the 60's pops.
Anonymous said...
Most fires happen in the ghetto also. Is fire going to send all of their crews to the west and south sides? Same with man down calls. No more ambulances for the Northside.
Anonymous said...
This is just too stupid to comment on!!!! Are you really the Police I mean come on?
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Yet you did comment. Are you the Police? Cause if you are it would seem that you would get the pretty straight forward point of this post. CFD, I would wager, gets a lot more calls in the ghetto than they do in, say, Roscoe Village. Anywhere from OD's to sidewalk inspectors to person shot calls. Keeping with the mentality that the Police should be assigned to the busier areas of the city wouldn't it make since that Fire should as well? Never-mind, I can already tell that I lost you again.
"As a PO you're supposed to be better than that.
All Laws apply to Everyone.And should be enforced regardless of Who or what you do.
Perks of the Job only apply when you're at the Job.
12/19/2010 10:12:00 PM"
fuck you, you commie rat bastard.
"With a rebuttal that stupid, I really hope you're not the Police!
12/19/2010 07:33:00 PM"
ditto
"I can't stand Weis, Masters, or any of their flunkies either. I just believe in fairness.
12/19/2010 06:34:00 PM"
then move to the west or south side.
You get to 018 two ways. One by managements 20% and the other by being a ppo and getting moved there prior to getting off your 18 month probation so you are not covered by the contract for bidding
With a rebuttal that stupid, I really hope you're not the Police!
12/19/2010 07:33:00 PM
How would you explain it?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
OK, so FIFTY years ago, it was decent, sorry old timer. But the majority of us who work here now weren't around in the "hayday" of Roseland. So let rephrase , it has become a cesspool and will remain. Happy????
12/19/2010 04:55:00 PM
It's heyday, not hayday. BTW, you are a condescending asshole.
12/19/2010 09:04:00 PM
And you are a argumentative asshole!
Its the fucking internet guy, relax. Guess what? Every shit hole neighborhood was not a shit hole at some point. Here is your medal for living in Roseland in the 60's pops.
12/19/2010 10:28:00 PM
I lived in Visitation parish in the 60's and early 70's it went to shit and we moved to 59th and Kedzie now that area is shit,now we live in Garcia ridge thanks to the the economy tanking we are holding ok. When economy picks up we will get more illegal Mexicans who do nothing but take! You can thank the demorats!
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