Sunday, March 20, 2011

Bombs in 023?

Safety alert:
  • I just got off of the phone with a 023rd district police officer, who informed me of the following:

    Three devices were found in the alley behind the McDonald's Restaurant at Wilson Avenue & Sheridan Road.

    One was a dud or intentionally not working. The other two were live and filled with about a gallon of acid, which when the bomb squad detonated them from a safe distance, blew in every direction.

    The theory now is that the first one was to lull first responders into a false sense of security so they'd be lackadaisical and careless in defusing the other two.
We're getting this from a number of e-mails and a couple of comments.

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112 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good thing they just got back Tactical Barbie. She's fresh from Intelligence and should have all of the latest information plus her vast pool of skills developed from extensive street experience.

3/20/2011 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Half-assed bombers, teens, experimenters. Bombs placed where they really wouldn't do much damage or injure more than a few people, in these people's fuzzy thinking.

As you say, it may have been intended for first responders.

BTW, stuff doesn't go in all directions if you get sandbags up around it before you blow it. Not quarterbacking, just suggesting a cheap solution that might be useful sometimes. S&S or someone should have a truckload a sandbags on-call...useful to divert flow from a busted water main if nothing else. Let's talk to each other, work together, use everything we got.

Hope everyone is OK.

Supermoon...

3/20/2011 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So much for the study saying nothing unusual happens during full moons.

There's obviously a bonafide lunatic behind this one.

Everybody be very, very careful.

3/20/2011 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Illegal immigrants we don't know who they are or where they are or what they are up to.

Read a story tonight about the state of New Mexico Governor losing the battle to stop issuing drivers licenses to illegal immigrants.

It was said that New Mexico has over 800,000 illegals with driver licenses. What the hell is the matter with people!!??

If just one percent of that population has terrorist ties, just one percent, we're talking 8,000 terrorist! We don't know who they are. There's been no background checks.

Now that is just for New Mexico.

We have this false sense of security at the airports with everyone taking their shoes off and being fondled for what?

You can walk right across the border and take a bus to Chicago no problems. Who are we kidding?

Now imagine how many terrorist or extremist are here right now in this sanctuary city.

One should remember too that that Libyan dictator has close ties to Venezuela and our southern border is wide open.

We just launched 120 Tomahawk missiles tonight into Libya so think about that and be careful.

3/20/2011 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't wait to hear if McDs or CPD had this covered by a camera. McDs camera would probably work.

Khadafi making all kinds of threats now, very bad time for shitheads to start playing with matches. You'll do Federal time for this; the last dickhead who blasted a couple of power poles in Wisconsin and had some chemicals hidden down in the Chicago subway got 20 or 30 years.

It's not Dungeons and Dragons. You can't just fold it all up and put it away when you're done. It's called "terrorism." Maybe people die. Maybe YOU die. Maybe you do a long, long prison term.

Be warned.

3/20/2011 01:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For as much micro managing that the 3rd watch capt does, his pussy ass was nowhere to be seen near this scene. He is all talk. He will never back his troops up. Especially if it ever means him possibly getting into any situation where he actually has to be the police. He is way too much of a pussy for that. He hid inside like he has done his whole career. That's why nobody on the watch or the whole fucking district respects you. You are a fucking joke.

3/20/2011 02:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boy oh boy where was the W/C during all this turmoil? Hiding under his desk in his office as usual? Yeah, that's right. Always leading from behind. But i guess that's what happens when you only spent 4 years on the street and the rest inside, right TL. Your war stories of your 2 years of patrol don't trick any of us. You are a loser and a terrible leader and don't have the respect of the maintenance people, let alone the watch. You suck. Everyone thinks you are a joke. Realize that. You will never be promoted, so stop running 8 million missions a day. Nobody cares.

3/20/2011 02:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Omg, what watch? I'm gonna guess
3rd b/c that guy is the biggest dufus on the whole dept. The funny thing is that he actually keeps thinking that if he rams a hundred missions a day down the wathces throat that he will get promoted to commander. If only he knew that the watch thinks he is the biggest fucking dork on the department and 35th st thinks even worse of him. Maybe then he would fucking chill a bit and treat people like adults. But of course not, he's the smartest person he ever met.

3/20/2011 02:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I did 5 tours in Iraq/afganistan in EOD(Explosive Ordnance Disposal). The only details about this is what i have read on this site but man does it sound familiar. What is actually scary and should be feared is that if bomb scare is from a legit group then watch out in the next couple days or weeks. Im gonna go ahead and say that in the surrounding buildings someone was video taping the entire response from beginning to finish. We always had to switch up our approach, our response, staging area, triage areas containment areas etc because they started to know our every move from dummy devices set up days before in the same type of location.... of course cpd will respond same way everytime. If they wanted it to blow up it would have blown up.. this is a classic probing and recon mission.. be extra careful out there. never approach or respond to a suspicious package or object the same way twice. change your tactics everytime and be careful

3/20/2011 02:30:00 AM  
Blogger Michael said...

maybe it had something to do with the 120 tomahawks we launched into libya today---keep your guard up....

3/20/2011 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who was the intended target? us, gang bangers, or is this a trial run? Location? Location? Location?

3/20/2011 03:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hah, and a middle eastern man ran away from a traffic accident on foot as coppers were running his name near the Wrigley Field McDonalds's, at approx 2 in the morning. These guys are up to something.

3/20/2011 04:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

where was tactical barbie? i heard shes in 023 now

3/20/2011 05:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But there are no terrorists in Chicago!

No crooked politicians, thieves or murderers for that matter also.

3/20/2011 07:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 10 sector in 023 is full of gangbangers ,crazies, etc.

3/20/2011 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think people dismiss 023 as a slow northside district. Which it is, but there was over 20 shootings last summer and a big gang problem.

3/20/2011 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If they blew up the 10 sector in 023 it would eliminate some real pricks (gang bangers, mentals, mixed in with the most liberal goofs in the city).

3/20/2011 07:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KB will be saying she works in a fast district with terrorism

3/20/2011 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Tactical Barbie Beat 2312 said...

Whenever I find myself in a hazardous situation like this, I always ask myself "What would J-Fled do?"

GOTTA RUN!

3/20/2011 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

be extra careful out there. never approach or respond to a suspicious package or object the same way twice. change your tactics everytime and be careful

3/20/2011 02:30:00 AM

Thanks for your service. Now go tell the guy who wants S&S to put sandbags around bombs what a brilliant idea that is.

Of course, he can always volunteer to walk up to bombs multiple times carrying sand bags and make the area safe for us. I'm sure the blast will be well contained and gas only move up with all of that S&S sand around it.

Make him a boss right away.

3/20/2011 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sounds like a Drano bomb, used to be popular with hillbilly suburban kids until a few were charged with felonies.

3/20/2011 08:14:00 AM  
Blogger KEKO JONES said...

When 9/11 happened, we were ALL on high alert.
We are going to have to get CC passed soon, for extra eyes, ears & firepower to help in case shit happens.

3/20/2011 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could be people probing our responses for TTP's or an ill trained crew like the Time Square bomber.

But don't worry, folks. This is Daley's sanctuary city. If you ask the guy who placed the bombs where he is from or if he is a legal resident YOU WILL BE FIRED.

Now I wonder if the lieutenant in charge of eGuardian will have her people report this. You don't want to give access to all sworn members of the department like the feds intended when you can control that and keep a couple of desk jockeys in control of reporting incidents like this.

Why have thousands of eyes that are on the street looking for suspicious incidents when you can say you are in charge and keep the system from working at all by confining use to people never on the street?

I mean a Jewish mayor elect, the US bombing an Arab country again...what could happen? Let's just keep letting illegals stream in undocumented and put flower pots up in the middle of major traffic arteries to block emergency vehicles if there's an incident.

Don't put people with time overseas in spots like Intelligence or EOD guys on Bomb and Arson, put political hacks and relatives of brass in there first. That's how you want to protect the people in this city.

3/20/2011 08:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Supermoon, I hope you do not ever respond with me to a suspicious object/device. How are you supposed to place the sandbags without getting perilously close to the device? How is the bomb tech supposed to approach the device with your sandbags now in the way?
All, pay attention to your training and PLEASE DO NOT try to isolate a suspect device. Distance and shielding around the corner, etc.. is the proper response for those of us that are not techs.
While you're there keep an eye out for anyone that is watching the response and or taping as was mentioned in other posts. That is definitely someone that needs to be talked to.

3/20/2011 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You watch, now that it is all clear, Cpt. TL will have a mission at the McDonalds. This guy has to go. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, he will probably pull the video, show it at one of his looooooooooong drawn out roll call sessions, and tell eveyone how the responding police did everything wrong.

3/20/2011 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Michael said...
maybe it had something to do with the 120 tomahawks we launched into libya today---keep your guard up....

3/20/2011 02:31:00 AM

That is $120,000,000.00 just blown up! Wish I had stock in that company. With inflation, the cost to resupply has to be goin up. Vaneckos involved in that too??

3/20/2011 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Libyan agents in the US. Just like in "Back to the Future"

3/20/2011 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I did 5 tours in Iraq/afganistan in EOD(Explosive Ordnance Disposal).

Impressive, and thank you on my behalf for your great service to our country. Now, if you only had a phonecall to go with your great experience of bomb disposal in a hostile enviornment.....

3/20/2011 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a history lesson: Rev.Farrakan of the Nation of Islam has visited Libya and on former Ald. Kelley's radio program openly criticized Obama
stating "Brother who do you think you are?" This comment was made when Farrakan was commenting on the possiblility of the U.S. attacking Libya. Farrakan has received financial support from Libya and there is talk that some of the Chicago Street Gangs may have also been on one of Farrakan's visits. Attacking Libya may result in retaliatory action in Chicago, since one of Libya's strongest backers lives here.

3/20/2011 09:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry guys the three bombs were what people call McGyver bombs made with household items. All three exploded in an alley and caused no damage. The other 2 were bottles of piss. Bomb and Arson did a great job as did the men and women from the 023rd district. They in my humble opinion were set by kids fresh off the internet.

Stay safe.

3/20/2011 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bet shes not on the street

3/20/2011 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

023rd District 3rd Watch multiple poster: Please give it a rest. We get it. You don't like the Watch Commander.

Man up and give him hell to his face. Stop ragging on the blog like a little girl.

3/20/2011 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I did 5 tours in Iraq/afganistan in EOD(Explosive Ordnance Disposal). The only details about this is what i have read on this site but man does it sound familiar. What is actually scary and should be feared is that if bomb scare is from a legit group then watch out in the next couple days or weeks. Im gonna go ahead and say that in the surrounding buildings someone was video taping the entire response from beginning to finish. We always had to switch up our approach, our response, staging area, triage areas containment areas etc because they started to know our every move from dummy devices set up days before in the same type of location.... of course cpd will respond same way everytime. If they wanted it to blow up it would have blown up.. this is a classic probing and recon mission.. be extra careful out there. never approach or respond to a suspicious package or object the same way twice. change your tactics everytime and be careful

3/20/2011 02:30:00 AM

*********
SCC, this should be a BANNER on your site to remind everyone of the dangers we are facing... it isn't a joke

3/20/2011 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

....wait ..... you're saying no one predicted this?

Get Brian on the horn ....

3/20/2011 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I did 5 tours in Iraq/afganistan in EOD(Explosive Ordnance Disposal). The only details about this is what i have read on this site but man does it sound familiar. What is actually scary and should be feared is that if bomb scare is from a legit group then watch out in the next couple days or weeks. Im gonna go ahead and say that in the surrounding buildings someone was video taping the entire response from beginning to finish. We always had to switch up our approach, our response, staging area, triage areas containment areas etc because they started to know our every move from dummy devices set up days before in the same type of location.... of course cpd will respond same way everytime. If they wanted it to blow up it would have blown up.. this is a classic probing and recon mission.. be extra careful out there. never approach or respond to a suspicious package or object the same way twice. change your tactics everytime and be careful

Listen to this guy, he knows what he is talking about. I did his job, many moons ago in a diffrent war. It's a probe!!!!!!

3/20/2011 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC Please take notice. The Illinois Appellate Court has reversed the conviction of former C.P.D. Sgt. Herman. In doing so, the justices made it clear that Judge Claps disregarded the evidence in the case, and reversed the Guilty. That means there is no retrial. In Judge Clap's decision he noted the he felt that two CPD Detectives committed perjury.
This appointed Judge is a POLICE HATER. Please read the decision you will be shocked. www.state.il.us/court/opinions/recent_appellate.asp
People V Herman

3/20/2011 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I did 5 tours in Iraq/afganistan in EOD(Explosive Ordnance Disposal). The only details about this is what i have read on this site but man does it sound familiar. What is actually scary and should be feared is that if bomb scare is from a legit group then watch out in the next couple days or weeks. Im gonna go ahead and say that in the surrounding buildings someone was video taping the entire response from beginning to finish. We always had to switch up our approach, our response, staging area, triage areas containment areas etc because they started to know our every move from dummy devices set up days before in the same type of location.... of course cpd will respond same way everytime. If they wanted it to blow up it would have blown up.. this is a classic probing and recon mission.. be extra careful out there. never approach or respond to a suspicious package or object the same way twice. change your tactics everytime and be careful

3/20/2011 02:30:00 AM

Very well put, thanks for your tours, knowledge, and reminder!

3/20/2011 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dont worry they have KB working there now. She knows everything.

3/20/2011 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) Even farrakan knows barry obama has no clue love the headline:
http://www.hapblog.com/2011/03/who-hell-do-you-think-your-are.html

3/20/2011 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is this "tacticle barbie?" I think I may have seen her in 023.

3/20/2011 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

take your kid for A DRIVERS LICENSE
I brought a photo copy of birth certificate , produced my ID's , kids report card and was required to return with a certified copy , yet illegals can get a dl attend our schools without any proof of immunizations , birth certificates etc no cuts in welfare

in newspaper ,poor corn vendor shot at her business , push cart at 26th and sawyer , did she have a business license , pass any food inspections from health dept
she sends money back to her family in mexico , all cash tax free

only in America

3/20/2011 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KB is on Midnites... hahahahahahahaha
Where are your good friends now?????? That is what you get you superficial women

3/20/2011 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 1:19 am, whats that on the wall? Ahhhhh oh nevermind its just your shadow. Big brother is watching too?

3/20/2011 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is some scary stuff. So far from September 11, 2011 until now we have not had one single terrorist attack.

God forbid if we do start having them and have them in a consistent manner then we are in trouble. Our economy would tank and we would be seriously fucked.

3/20/2011 02:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, SCC, ya want a laugh? An Uptown neighborhood blog, Uptown Update, (023) has picked up this post and their VERY LIBERAL followers are now debating whether or not their "nice blog" should be linking to SCC because there are "A lot of offensive posts/comments on that blog"... snicker-snicker!

http://www.uptownupdate.com/2011/03/bombs-away.html

3/20/2011 02:08:00 PM  
Blogger leomemorial said...

Love ya'll!! Be safe

3/20/2011 02:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Couldn't find anything on the major incident notifictions, pcad or anything. event# anyone??

3/20/2011 02:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

‘MacGyver’ type bombs explode in Uptown alley
FROM SUN-TIMES MEDIA WIRE Mar 20, 2011 2:56PM

http://www.suntimes.com/4417801-417/macgyver-type-bombs-explode-in-uptown-alley.html

3/20/2011 03:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't worry scc as long as phone calls reign over at the terrorism unit i feel safe.The good thing about working in a shithole district is that the extremists wont bother blowing up the grape pop and cheeto factories.

3/20/2011 03:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bomb & Arson Section, at least the Arson side of the op, is staffed at what could be dscribed as either minimal or skeletal.

15 Arson dicks for 7 days and 3 shifts. And furlos,etc.

Of the 15 field D's 4 are looking at retirement in the next year.

3/20/2011 03:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Times have been changing, and as they change all over the world we keep getting more enemies (many other parts of the world don't like our democracy). Let's not ferget that Chicago is slated to have it's first Jewish mayor. The Middle East is brewing with revolts, and the dictators will not strike Israel, but we are easy targets.

STOP thinking small and think of the bigger picture and your response...THE MAIN GOAL IS TO GO HOME SAFE AT THE END OF THE DAY!!!


If you have to stop the city and wait for the proper units to SHOW UP, then sit back and wait....we are still getting paid!

3/20/2011 03:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

****Off Topic****

For those who think Charles Ramsey would be a positive step for the Chicago Police Department, read this article which appeared in the Washingtonian while Ramsey was still chief of DC Metro PD. It is a fairly long article, but definitely worth the time reading it.

Why DC's Best Cops Aren't Protecting You

3/20/2011 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah think about the possibility that someone is up to something when you young guys are shooting off places to get duty gear to an alleged policeman. If someone is a cop he knows where to go or knows who to ask and the blog is not the place.

3/20/2011 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Hah, and a middle eastern man ran away from a traffic accident on foot as coppers were running his name near the Wrigley Field McDonalds's, at approx 2 in the morning. These guys are up to something."

--3/20/2011 04:43:00 AM

It just struck me that "McDonald's" is familiar all over the world; I'm sure some see it as an outpost of "American imperialism."

Anyway, very simple true story --

I once knew a gay man who, for a short time, had a relationship with a student from Libya, who stayed at his apartment. The student then skipped out and disappeared; his student visa expired and he didn't want to go back to Libya.

A while later, two swarthy men in suits showed up at the door, flashing Libyan government credentials and asking about this student.

The man told me, "I had never seen eyes like that outside a reptile house."

This was maybe twenty-five years ago.

They are here, and have been for a long time.

An FBI guy was on TV the other night, saying that Khadafi has long had "sleeper agents" in many countries, with lists of Khadafi's enemies to assassinate if the order ever came.

I heard Khadafi this time immediately threatening soft civilian targets as well as military; he prefers the easy ones. "On December 21, 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland, killing all 259 people on board as well as 11 on the ground."

The man is crazy, has billions of dollars, and shows no signs of leaving quietly.

Be careful.

3/20/2011 04:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the 23rd district has a very seasoned officer in KB. She will take care of everything. She knows her shit. She worked in JFLEDS office and also Masters office. WRONG!
Now those two dumped her. Classic. So Karen, was it worth selling your soul to those two people. Where are they now to help you. Funny

3/20/2011 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our leaders?

Daley is going to China, Obama is going to Brazil.

Beats me.

I guess we have to ask Rahm. Maybe he knows something about this sort of thing...

3/20/2011 05:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Farrakhan was recently talking good things about his buddy Ghadaffi, his guys are pretty radical but not that smart. Not trying to fear monger, just saying. In any case, unfortunately everyone, needs to be a bit aware (not paranoid, just aware) of things and situations they see in day to day life.

3/20/2011 05:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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3/20/2011 05:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.S. KB is on days getting treated like everyone else. KB doesn't say much. She actually backs people up without being told, volunteers for jobs and when she shows up at other peoples jobs she doesn't interfere or put her two cents in. No problems so far.

3/20/2011 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't go to Iraq but I did sit and listen when I attended TARA.

They over-stated the importance of being alert for secondary explosive devices and cited numerous examples.

The TARA training was probably the best training that this job implemented.

3/20/2011 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Now go tell the guy who wants S&S to put sandbags around bombs what a brilliant idea that is."

--3/20/2011 08:10:00 AM

Offered in the spirit of "do what you can with what you have, where you are." Good to hear the feedback.

Got any Kevlar "bomb blankets" to use where appropriate, or did Daley spend the money on planters? A big city like this should have the best stuff.

"Sorry guys the three bombs were what people call McGyver bombs made with household items. All three exploded in an alley and caused no damage. The other 2 were bottles of piss. Bomb and Arson did a great job as did the men and women from the 023rd district. They in my humble opinion were set by kids fresh off the internet."

--3/20/2011 09:41:00 AM

Don't be sorry, no one is looking for that kind of excitement. Thank God.

REAL BAD timing for s__t like this, kids...

Two idiots also got busted for shining lasers at aircraft...

"[The] two were also charged with aiming a laser pointer at a police helicopter that had been dispatched after pilots on the Southwest Airlines jet had reported seeing the beam, police said.

"The helicopter flight crew determined where the laser had been aimed from, police said without elaborating on how, and communicated the location of the car to patrol officers in the area. Smith and Slater were stopped at West 60th Street and South Stewart Avenue."

http://www.chicagobreakingnews
.com/news/local/ct-met-
laser-pointer-
arrests-20110318,0,5247627
.story

I am gonna get out my old orange S&S pushcart with the wagon wheels and the brooms sticking up. Perfect cover for an anti-terrorist mission...

3/20/2011 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Five tours in a war zone working EOD? I am willing to bet that our department is utilizing this individual's skill set by requiring the standard amount of parkers, movers, etc. This. Place. Sucks.

3/20/2011 05:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Supermoon, I hope you do not ever respond with me to a suspicious object/device. How are you supposed to place the sandbags without getting perilously close to the device? How is the bomb tech supposed to approach the device with your sandbags now in the way?
All, pay attention to your training and PLEASE DO NOT try to isolate a suspect device. Distance and shielding around the corner, etc.. is the proper response for those of us that are not techs."

--3/20/2011 08:35:00 AM

Thanks. No such thing as a stupid question when you learn the right answer.

It had just struck my mind that perhaps such easily available material could be used by the techs as part of their planned "blow in place." I guess if it were practical, you'd be doing it already, huh?

Stay EXTRA safe. I will be around the corner like you say!

3/20/2011 06:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sorry guys the three bombs were what people call McGyver bombs made with household items. All three exploded in an alley and caused no damage. The other 2 were bottles of piss. Bomb and Arson did a great job as did the men and women from the 023rd district. They in my humble opinion were set by kids fresh off the internet.

Stay safe.

3/20/2011 09:41:00 AM

OK, so they were amateurish. Maybe that was the intention. Check reactions and response times / methods. Who would make a big deal out of catching some guy with a bottle of piss ? It was a dry run. The guys that put it there probably did it to see if they are being watched / followed. If they got caught then they would only be in possession of inert items. Once they are confident that they won't get caught, they will plant the real thing! Be alert and be safe !!!!!

3/20/2011 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"An Uptown neighborhood blog, Uptown Update, (023) has picked up this post and their VERY LIBERAL followers are now debating whether or not their "nice blog" should be linking to SCC because there are "A lot of offensive posts/comments on that blog"...

--3/20/2011 02:08:00 PM

I had a look; talk about vapor lock --

"Bombs were found behind McDonalds at Sheridan and Wilson and were detonated by the police. We had our doubts about running it, as it seems very urban mythic. It doesn't seem likely that this could happen without someone noticing..."

Someone did notice; bombs were found behind McDonald's at Sheridan and Wilson and were detonated by the police.

Is that enough to make it official, or is there some further service required here?

Screwballs.

3/20/2011 06:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is this "tacticle barbie?" I think I may have seen her in 023.

3/20/2011 12:31:00 PM




so many balls to bust these days.....

3/20/2011 06:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

023 IS a slow northside district compared to most, but coppers get killed in slow districts and busy districts alike.

023 has paid the price when it comes to slain police officers. No more funerals would be a blessing.

Be carefull and look out for your partners.

3/20/2011 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT

Wow! The useless CC SA Alvarez said she wont prosecute Daley's nephew!!

3/20/2011 06:30:00 PM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

@ 3/20/2011 03:37:00 PM

"Why DC's Best Cops Aren't Protecting You"

Whoever you are, THANK YOU SO MUCH for your post and linking this article.

We have said for the longest time that Charles Ramsey is not a friend of The Police and this article proves it.

We wonder what is up with these so called bosses who declare war on their own officers.

Ramsey in DC & Philly and j-fled here in Chicago.

They cry and shout for aggressive Policing but they but systems in place to target good aggressive officers for disproportionate discipline for violating conflicting and maddeningly contradictory policy.

Most Coppers aren't giving a shit nowadays for the sake of survival and people know this!

Why do you think there is so much ballyhoo in the media?

"Whither the Police? What are they thinking? What about their morale?"

This has been a shit-talkers holiday for all the people congratulating themselves for openly stating how little of a fuck they give about The Police and the things that affect everyone like Police morale.

"Public servants. Stop complaining. You have no right to complain. Stop thinking about retirement and fight crime. I pay you guys salary. Shut up. Go away. I hope Rham takes your pension and cuts your pay. You knew it would be like this so quit if you don't like it."

Et cetera, ad nauseam et ad infinitum...

Ramsey is a creature of habit and he is sure to impliment these same destructive punitive measures here in Chicago.

Jeez... is this being done just to reduce headcount?

How the hell is any Policing going to get done if at all?

What next? "We're going to punish you until you give a fuck."?

SCC!

You REALLY should play this forward and make this a topic unto itself.

3/20/2011 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Many other parts of the world don't like our democracy."

--3/20/2011 03:33:00 PM

Actually, many parts of the world are ablaze now with people revolting against their governments, trying to get something more like our democracy for themselves.

A lot of it is also the eternal conflict within the Muslim world, between the smaller, richer, Sunni sect which always seems to be in power over the larger, poorer, Shi'ite sect. Within that, there is also conflict between tribes, families, etc. Even with the best efforts and sacrifices of our military, I do not know that there is anything that we can ever do about this.

We also must acknowledge what our detractors -- from polite critics all the way to outright terrorists -- in the Arab world are actually saying, over and over again. They are not happy with America's support of Israel. Many times, the entire United Nations has tried to pass a resolution condemning some Israeli action -- and the only votes against the resolution come from A. Israel and B. the United States, which wields veto power.

It is also true that there are some Muslims who, as you say, hate America because it is America. As best I can recall, there is a very widely-published and influential book circulated in the Arab world, written about 1948 by a Muslim who visited the United States, living for a time in a town in Colorado. Now, that is about as tame as we can imagine, but he was shocked by such things as square dances, men and women kissing in public, etc., and railed against the U.S. as a great source of immorality and so forth. He felt that Islamic law should be set in place to stop such behavior. I should try to find the writer's name; he really has great impact to this day, yet Americans have by and large never heard of him.

It is a can of worms. So, we have a can of worms.

Everything I have read here today has as usual been worthwhile, be it silly, angry, or practical. God bless all here and stay safe.

The TV has been running for ten days now on NHK in Japan, whenever I have time to look -- Channel 20.3 on over-the-air digital. (Also carries Al Jazeera news from Doha, Quatar, IBA from Israel, DW from Germany, France-24, and RT-TV from Russia.) What a course in emergency response; I pray for those suffering in this vast disaster.

3/20/2011 06:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah think about the possibility that someone is up to something when you young guys are shooting off places to get duty gear to an alleged policeman. If someone is a cop he knows where to go or knows who to ask and the blog is not the place.

3/20/2011 04:32:00 PM

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Dipshiite. If someone is able to find this blog on the internet, they are also able to find the many stores that sell tactical gear online. Relax. And if you think the Libyan terrorists are going to use "bottle-bombs" against us, you should report to 3510 S. Michigan for random drug testing.

3/20/2011 06:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

023rd District 3rd Watch multiple poster: Please give it a rest. We get it. You don't like the Watch Commander.

Man up and give him hell to his face. Stop ragging on the blog like a little girl.

3/20/2011 10:05:00 AM

Amen to that!

3/20/2011 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did I mention it's the first day of spring?

We made it.

I know where there are piles of snow STILL melting....

What a winter.

3/20/2011 07:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think people dismiss 023 as a slow northside district. Which it is, but there was over 20 shootings last summer and a big gang problem.

3/20/2011 07:23:00 AM

Normal weekend in any District in A/2

3/20/2011 07:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was working that day. More than likely the work of kids. Literally "smoke and mirrors" most likely created by 023 Tac Lt.

3/20/2011 08:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I think people dismiss 023 as a slow northside district. Which it is, but there was over 20 shootings last summer and a big gang problem.

3/20/2011 07:23:00 AM

20 shootings...hell, there were 20 shootings last weekend in 005.

Couldn't resist.

3/20/2011 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous EOD GUY said...

sandbags?? ok, you go up there and place all the sandbags around the device... then, when it goes off it sends your 100 sandbags flying as 50 LB projectiles in every direction. causing more destruction... also... even sand and tiny pepples can embed in your skin and hurt like hell when thrown by an explosion. the sand can move so fast if your close enough that you can instantly go blind. maybe sandbags are not the best idea

3/20/2011 09:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where's Ray Ray maybe KB needed her swat guy

3/20/2011 10:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT. SNeed caling out Commander Of special events. He may have been off while working Transformers the movie ...but isn't there an air of impropriety when the CO. Is getting the extra work coming via his official position ? Just sayin

3/20/2011 10:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tactical Barbie the new Hitney??? Can we have some photoshop please???

just axin

3/20/2011 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Hah, and a middle eastern man ran away from a traffic accident on foot as coppers were running his name near the Wrigley Field McDonalds's, at approx 2 in the morning. These guys are up to something."

--3/20/2011 04:43:00 AM

That was a taxi driver running after a drunk, drive 'n dash liberal yuppie..a relative of da mayor.

3/20/2011 10:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jeez, that McDonalds is a shithole as is the surrounding area.

Bombs away!

3/20/2011 10:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC Please take notice. The Illinois Appellate Court has reversed the conviction of former C.P.D. Sgt. Herman. In doing so, the justices made it clear that Judge Claps disregarded the evidence in the case, and reversed the Guilty. That means there is no retrial. In Judge Clap's decision he noted the he felt that two CPD Detectives committed perjury.
This appointed Judge is a POLICE HATER. Please read the decision you will be shocked. www.state.il.us/court/opinions/recent_appellate.asp
People V Herman

3/20/2011 11:34:00 AM
---------
The original judge believed the detectives and sent a sergeant to jail. The appellate judge said he did not believe the detectives but set a sergeant free. Which one is the bigger hater?

3/20/2011 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.S. KB is on days getting treated like everyone else. KB doesn't say much. She actually backs people up without being told, volunteers for jobs and when she shows up at other peoples jobs she doesn't interfere or put her two cents in. No problems so far.

Thanks signed Ray Hamilton or Masters
BTW
Days??? WTF should be on Mids she was dumped back from a detail I see an FOP grievence for any PO on Mids in 023

3/20/2011 11:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was jodi.

3/20/2011 11:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"sandbags?? ok, you go up there and place all the sandbags around the device... then, when it goes off it sends your 100 sandbags flying as 50 LB projectiles in every direction. causing more destruction... also... even sand and tiny pepples can embed in your skin and hurt like hell when thrown by an explosion. the sand can move so fast if your close enough that you can instantly go blind. maybe sandbags are not the best idea"

--3/20/2011 09:56:00 PM

Point well taken, thanks for all the good info from the pros. It had crossed my mind that maybe the techs could use this simple, available material to reduce blast and fragments thrown laterally in a "blow in place" job. Probably the Kevlar "bomb blanket" is better for this if appropriate -- hope city has these available, you guys should have what you need for this work.

Best wishes and stay safe...

3/20/2011 11:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Five tours in a war zone working EOD? I am willing to bet that our department is utilizing this individual's skill set by requiring the standard amount of parkers, movers, etc. This. Place. Sucks.

3/20/2011 05:53:00 PM
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Agreed, agreed, agreed. Law degrees paid for by the city, pushing beat cars instead of in the Law Unit teaching, or in Legal Affairs, using the degree.

Pilots, pushing desks. Real anti-terror specialists handling domestic violence cases.

People with knowledge and diverse backgrounds, never utilized to their full potential.

It's a disservice to the Department and it's a disservice to the people who are never acknowledged or able to make good use of their talents.

3/20/2011 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.S. KB is on days getting treated like everyone else. KB doesn't say much. She actually backs people up without being told, volunteers for jobs and when she shows up at other peoples jobs she doesn't interfere or put her two cents in. No problems so far.

3/20/2011 05:32:00 PM
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And you still have time to come post on the blog, Karen!

3/20/2011 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, SCC, ya want a laugh? An Uptown neighborhood blog, Uptown Update, (023) has picked up this post and their VERY LIBERAL followers are now debating whether or not their "nice blog" should be linking to SCC because there are "A lot of offensive posts/comments on that blog"... snicker-snicker!

From Uptown Update:
A commenter reminded us that Second City Cop is pretty raw as far as language and emotions. Probably should add a NSFW warning re the link to the blog. It's cops talking to other cops and the comments are funny, graphic, often profane and often offensive. Travel over at your own risk.

Give Uptown Update a break. If you ever read one of the many posts they have about crime in Uptown, you would see that although they don't use the same terms we use when talking to our fellow POs, they are VERY MUCH pro-police. It's not uncommon for posters there to compliment us or actually
understand that there's only so much the police can do to reduce crime. Just because they have posts about dining, the arts, or political activism doesn't mean they don't support the police.

3/21/2011 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous EOD GUY said...

Five tours in a war zone working EOD? I am willing to bet that our department is utilizing this individual's skill set by requiring the standard amount of parkers, movers, etc. This. Place. Sucks.

you would be correct. I work the watch. And yes, I have inquired about bomb and arson..and yes, I have gotten nowhere.

3/21/2011 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Tactical Barbie the new Hitney??? Can we have some photoshop please???"

--3/20/2011 10:23:00 PM

I thought it'd be Penelope Jones-Trahanas. It was only a matter of time...should we start with "Crossing The Delaware" or something else? Perhaps "The Madwoman of Chaillot?"

3/21/2011 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

intresting how this has NOT made the news

3/21/2011 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The TARA training was probably the best training that this job implemented."

Probably, but it wouldn't have happened had there not been federal money funding it.

Not to mention the city's cut for administration fees, etc.

3/21/2011 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC Please take notice. The Illinois Appellate Court has reversed the conviction of former C.P.D. Sgt. Herman. In doing so, the justices made it clear that Judge Claps disregarded the evidence in the case, and reversed the Guilty. That means there is no retrial. In Judge Clap's decision he noted the he felt that two CPD Detectives committed perjury.
This appointed Judge is a POLICE HATER. Please read the decision you will be shocked. www.state.il.us/court/opinions/recent_appellate.asp
People V Herman

3/20/2011 11:34:00 AM
---------
The original judge believed the detectives and sent a sergeant to jail. The appellate judge said he did not believe the detectives but set a sergeant free. Which one is the bigger hater?

You miss the point. The two detectives testified to the inconsistencies in the complaintant's story. Judge disregaeded the evidence presented, called them liars, and found him guilty. Appellate Judges laid out Claps and basically write that he ignored the facts, and reversed deciaion.

3/21/2011 06:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot of it is also the eternal conflict within the Muslim world, between the smaller, richer, Sunni sect which always seems to be in power over the larger, poorer, Shi'ite sect. Within that, there is also conflict between tribes, families, etc. Even with the best efforts and sacrifices of our military, I do not know that there is anything that we can ever do about this.
3/20/2011 06:50:00 PM

Sorry, but unless you meant within certain countries, it's the Sunni who are the larger sect. The Shia are only a majority in Iran and Iraq.

Other than that, great post. And the book you were referring to is "Milestones." Just in case anyone wants to become more intimately familiar with our enemies and how they think.

It might be a good idea to know your enemy now that Rahm, a pro-Israeli who served with the IDF during the Gulf War, is about to become mayor.

3/21/2011 07:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Preserve ‘em on its way…one many can an extremely great job located at these sort of Basics…are not able to inform you of how much I JUST, for example take pleasure in all you could complete!

3/20/2011 05:22:00 PM

This guy's either piss drunk, a retard, or this is some great code talk for his partner in crime!

3/21/2011 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

023 district- Man up ? Heard a sgt now on midnights ran to the W/C complaining that a PO was talking (truth) about him to another PO in the locker room. He cried to W/C like alittle bitch. Never said a thing to that PO. There they lead by example. Good job sgt.

3/21/2011 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KB in 023 ! Shes a female that isnt afraid to do her job, to wit There was a foot chase in 23 with a shoplifter,female PO chases and could've apprehended him, but refused stating,"he's big, what am i going to do?" DUHHHHHHH. KB would never let that happen.

3/21/2011 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a history lesson: Rev.Farrakan of the Nation of Islam has visited Libya and on former Ald. Kelley's radio program openly criticized Obama
stating "Brother who do you think you are?" This comment was made when Farrakan was commenting on the possiblility of the U.S. attacking Libya. Farrakan has received financial support from Libya and there is talk that some of the Chicago Street Gangs may have also been on one of Farrakan's visits. Attacking Libya may result in retaliatory action in Chicago, since one of Libya's strongest backers lives here.

3/20/2011 09:40:00 AM

El Rukins were heavily involved with Khadafi.

3/21/2011 09:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Give Uptown Update a break. If you ever read one of the many posts they have about crime in Uptown, you would see that although they don't use the same terms we use when talking to our fellow POs, they are VERY MUCH pro-police. It's not uncommon for posters there to compliment us or actually
understand that there's only so much the police can do to reduce crime. Just because they have posts about dining, the arts, or political activism doesn't mean they don't support the police.

3/21/2011 12:30:00 AM



everyone has to grow up sometime, even uptown yuppie puppies.

breath deep, the gathering gloom....

3/21/2011 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This guy's either piss drunk, a retard, or this is some great code talk for his partner in crime!

3/21/2011 07:43:00 AM



excellent, my dear watson.


at times you amaze me.

3/21/2011 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

P.S. KB is on days getting treated like everyone else. KB doesn't say much. She actually backs people up without being told, volunteers for jobs and when she shows up at other peoples jobs she doesn't interfere or put her two cents in. No problems so far.

So basically she does what every cop is supposed to do and you want her to be congratulated. Get real.

3/21/2011 12:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also have experience w/explosives,and from what was described i am sure it was a probe w/someone video taping CPD's response. Next time there could be a secondary bomb set up a short distance away (staging) area),and while the first device is being disarmed "BOOM" , multiple targets hit including bystanders who love to stand a short distance away being nosy and trying to see what's going on. 'BEWARE' BEWARE'

3/21/2011 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason 23 lost Wilson is because of the demoralizing sgts and the goofy Capt L and all his missions. Do the bosses realize he runs so many missions and overlaps them, that everything done by the watch is claimed by the capt as mission activity to pad his attempts to become a commander?

As for the poster who said maybe we should say it to his face- Capt L, get off our blog- when was the last time a PO could tell a boss what a crappy job he's doing without retaliation. But Mauer did it at the airport and all the oldtimers considered him a hero. This blog is our only outlet against bad bosses. Sadly!

3/21/2011 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Preserve ‘em on its way…one many can an extremely great job located at these sort of Basics…are not able to inform you of how much I JUST, for example take pleasure in all you could complete!

3/20/2011 05:22:00 PM

What the hell are you trying to say???????????

3/21/2011 01:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh my god. I used to live in Uptown. I went to that McDonald's on a regular basis. This is incredible.

3/21/2011 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
P.S. KB is on days getting treated like everyone else. KB doesn't say much. She actually backs people up without being told, volunteers for jobs and when she shows up at other peoples jobs she doesn't interfere or put her two cents in. No problems so far.

3/20/2011 05:32:00 PM
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And you still have time to come post on the blog, Karen!

3/20/2011 11:57:00 PM

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Treated like everyone else?
Does that include that she put in for comp time when doing the WTA stuff while during working hours?
What about the city car she had access to? Did they take that away as well?
Hmmmmmmm?

3/21/2011 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bomb & Arson would not “detonate at a safe distance”
and acid would not “blow in every direction”.
PLUS….it’s like the game show----which is the dud?
Number one, two or three?
How did they know which one was the dud?

BOGUS

3/21/2011 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Give Uptown Update a break...Just because they have posts about dining, the arts, or political activism doesn't mean they don't support the police."

--3/21/2011 12:30:00 AM

"Everyone has to grow up sometime, even Uptown yuppie puppies.

"Breathe deep, the gathering gloom...."

--3/21/2011 10:57:00 AM

Yeah, really, except I don't see any maturation among the "urban pioneers" overall -- just stasis, cowardice, and hypocrisy. They will continue their financial speculation and "political activism" while shrinking from the horrible result and whistling up the police as janitors to clean the mess off the doorstep of their particular condominium -- which may very well have once been a factory where worked hundreds of people who produced goods, paid taxes and saved money.

How many "galleries" can there be? We are past the limit on converting our manufacturing base into vast, echoing "performance spaces" and "community centers" -- ultimately, nothing is made there that will even pay the heating bill.

Everyone simply cannot be lucratively employed as "coordinators" of such places, to order banners hung from the rafters and have the empty floors endlessly polished at minimum wage by people who don't speak much English and who are imagined to simply disappear after 5 PM.

Disappear? Ha. Look at Ravenswood Manor. The people who cut the politicians' grass there live right across the alley now. The middle class is truly gone.

Steven Good, son of Sheldon Good, the area's largest commercial real estate broker, drove his Jaguar into the Forest Preserves and shot himself a couple of years back. Pay attention to things like this.

But no -- these people want the "post-industrial," trendy look -- without any smoke, smells, or loud noises, thank you, and with the resultant homeless kept out of sight.

They want "multiculturalism" without any throat-cuttings or pools of urine in their hallway, and "open borders" without the huge taxation necessary to fund the use of the United States as a giant "drop-in center" for the world.

They demand harmony in the middle of mortal conflict. They are on a battlefield, and they want landscaping.

As someone else here said, the toilet has overflowed in a very big way -- and there is little anyone in a blue shirt can do about it.

3/21/2011 07:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"El Rukns were heavily involved with Khadafi."

--3/21/2011 09:25:00 AM

Wasn't it the old Southmoor Hotel on Stony Island that they got hold of -- probably with money from a "community development grant" -- and turned into the "Temple Of Moorish Science" (I'm still laughing) until the city finally flattened the building as a nuisance after years of complaints?

What a classy place that was in, say, 1940 -- bellboys running with bouquets of roses and visiting cards on little silver trays, live "big bands" in the ballroom...

Within living memory...very much so.

http://chicagopc.info/
Chicago%20postcards/
hotels%20p-z/southmoor%
20hotel%20150.JPG

3/21/2011 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KB is on days getting treated like everyone else. KB doesn't say much. She actually backs people up without being told, volunteers for jobs and when she shows up at other peoples jobs she doesn't interfere or put her two cents in. No problems so far.

Treated like everyone else, really? How did the five year wonder get days in the first place? Sorry but cops have very long memory spans, her bullshit won't be forgotten. We also know when the people in question blog in their own defense, it's quite comical KB.

3/21/2011 07:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again why did Maurer wait till he was out of a job to speak up?

3/22/2011 08:56:00 AM  

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