The First Cut
Nearly 400 officers assigned to specialized citywide units and district tactical teams will don uniforms to boost police visibility on the streets with the approach of warmer weather and the increased violence that comes with it, the Chicago Police Department said Friday.
More than 70 other officers already have been moved from specialized assignments to strengthen patrol operations, Interim Superintendent Terry Hillard said.
"Patrol is the backbone of the Chicago Police Department," Hillard said at a news conference at police headquarters. "Every other unit in this police department, even the superintendent's office, is a support unit for patrol."
No one disbanded. The "tact in uniform" is a replay of a few years ago. We're seeing smoke, maybe a little bit of mirror here. Again, this isn't a criticism of Hillard. He doesn't do the testing, screening and hiring. He also has been in charge for barely two weeks and any changes will be narrow in scope.
Patrol may be the backbone, but it's still being treated as the ass.
Patrol may be the backbone, but it's still being treated as the ass.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
118 Comments:
Where is the smoke and mirrors tour 2011??? Wonder if they are gonna strip the units again for another 90 day detail to msf and tru like last spring.....should the low seniority people get ready? LOL
tact teams have been in uniform in the summer for the past 10 years or so. Nothing new here. Every may or so after spring inspection we have to be in uniform until mid sept. Yes, this is the smoke you were speaking of.
Those 70 are the old.gun teams
On the one hand, Hillar initially stated weeks back that all the "good" officers had been taken out of patrols. This could be interpreted properly as a slight to the good officers in patrol. Those who remained in patrol have served as the backbone of the department under extraordinarily trying conditions under Weis, where manpower was stripped but responsibilities were not.
This does not help explain why the above quote was not a slight to those in patrol, but does at least help show his underlying concern for the conditions of patrol under Weis. It would still be nice to see Hillard explain a bit about what he meant by the quote, but when was the last time one of these guys ever had to explain anything to the rank and file.
I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
Hmmmmmmm thought 35 street mole said Leo is getting dumped.... NOT! Hey I heard DeLopez will be the next super... Thats why he left Winnetka and came back to run the city college security! I also heard that 35 street mole couldnt find his ass with both hands.. Move along
How about they just hire more cops? They can cut the number of alderman in half and save the city millions which can be used to hire more police officers.
This does absolutely nothing in helping patrol. Tact in uniform two years ago didn't make a difference for beat cars and we know it won't now. Just a bunch of nonsense to feed the sheep.
I love Hillard's quote about that if crime spikes plain clothes MSF will be back in uniform. That'll make one officer look like two, I guess.
and when tact, gangs etc are in uniform productivity goes DOWN. because no one wants to get challanged at every stop by gang bangers. Shitheads dont respect the uniform. think you are a "rookie". We know better but they dont. So when in uniform i do less.
Let's take all the units of cops in the patrol division and put them into the patrol division. That way they can beef up the patrol division.
I'm a cpd boss. I think outside the box. And I have a new paradigm. I learned that in a leadership class after my merit promotion. I'm worth a six figure salary.
Wow 153!!!! Talk about arrogance!!!! I work in a unit and would never talk the way you did about patrol. Patrol handles the calls, all of them. I give them respect, many in patrol have earned it. I guess you went straight from the academy to a unit??? U were so damn good you didn't need to learn how to do a battery case report.
Sorry hero from MSF but I go to court 3 to 4 times a week from the amount of activity I have. I see the lack of quality arrests made by MSF. Instead of MSF you should be called PCS by pissbum. The unit could also be called no probable cause. The final title for the unit could be "I've never heard of the 4th amendment unit". The testimony given by officers in MSF is terrible at a minimum. One day you clowns will find yourself in federal court for the BS arrests you've made. I'm sure you will still be the greatest after you loose a few thousand dollars or worse.
One day hero from 153 when you grow up and go to a unit that makes quality arrests and get convictions like GEU, Narcotics, or Gang Investigations please brag all you want. Until then please STFU!!!! Send all the idiots from MSF and TRU back to the districts!!!!
Way to go Terry! I wish you would have done this when you were Supt. also because then we would have had enough manpower on the westside on midnights to handle job's and Garfield Park's mess in the summer!
Create light duty jobs for those officers on disability and give them the desk jobs!
What a crock of sh!!!t. I would like to believe that Hilliard knows the tact teams are in the patrol division it doesn't matter if they are wearing jeans or uniforms. This is just more of the usual BS smoke and mirrors. Why is it that area 2 is so short detectives that if you make a Juv arrest you have to take the kid to them. They don't have enough dicks to send one to the districts. I was there on Thur and they must of had 15 kids sitting in the SVU office. This department is falling apart and the bosses are just worried about the next check.
I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
PLEASE, GIVE ME A F'IN BREAK. The city would fallapart if patrol stopped doing it's job. MSF is only in one or two districts were it's easy to lock up gangbangers. They are on every street corner in some districts. MSF isn't tied to the radio like a beat copper. It's pretty hard to do any proactive policing when you have to run job to job because Patrol is so short handed and you have to respond to your jobs. So F-You when you say Patrol does nothing, Patrol is keeping this City together, not the "Strike Force"
I still don't understand why we need TRU and MSF. I used to be a part of TRU and hate to say it but they aren't bringing in any better of an arrest than the beat cars do in the districts. Five officers hanging out in the station while one processes a misdemeanor weed arrest is ridiculous. Plus there is no reason why there should be a backlog of calls. Put those officers back into districts where they belong.
Hey don't you guys with the MSF tatto's look STUPID now!
To the guy from unit 153,
Go to Duggans and tell your war stories there you fucking loser.
Beat Officer 017th District 1st watch.
MSF doesn't work in plainclothes. We also don't blow off jobs in the shitty districts we work every night. We don't get early outs and we aren't a head unit. If we are disbanded we will be spread out and will be like a drop of ink in a five gallon aquarium, no effect at all.
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I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
3/27/2011 12:52:00 AM
You are a Jagwipe!!!!
Enough said...
it doesn't matter if you are in hard or soft clothes, it's what comes out of your mouth that counts--- gangbangers know right away if you know what you are talking about or you are a clown--- we welcome with open arms any tac teams which have been put into uniform to help out patrol--- it sucks being tied to the radio but it has become an officer safety issue out there with the across the board reduction in manpower....
I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
Seriously dude, get over yourself. Your shirt is still blue. Any BLUE SHIRT beat copper could do what you guys do if given the time and opportunity. Unfortunately they are so bogged down with bullshit that they are going from call to call without any time to "hunt". Get off your high horse. And no, I'm not a salty guy on the watch. I'm a guy in a unit also who remembers where he came from.
Anonymous said...
and when tact, gangs etc are in uniform productivity goes DOWN. because no one wants to get challanged at every stop by gang bangers. Shitheads dont respect the uniform. think you are a "rookie". We know better but they dont. So when in uniform i do less.
With comments like this I think we need better tact officer. If you are challenge then you go hard on this m$&@& f&@ mere. You don't give up because you are wearing a uniform, you still the police with or with out uniform
Mmmmm...... interesting quote..
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
And just a few days ago, when the rumor mill started churning out that these units were going to be stripped of personnel and they would be sent back to patrol I see comments such as "if I have to go back to a beat car I ain't doing shit!"
Or, my personal favorite....."after all I've done they want to kick me back to a beat car? Fuck them! I won't do shit!"
Hey Terry, do patrol a favor and keep these whinning marys in their units. At least they keep all the piss bums off the streets.
Hey 12:52 a.m.:
A little full of yourself are you?
I think you've got it ass backwards. If the beat cop stopped doing what they do the beast would really run rampant. Who the Hell do you think answers all those radio calls?
I assure you it's not you and your hair gel buddies.
Eventually the truth will come out. You will never see the old numbers of Police on the street again. The Police budget supports the other city agencies such as human services.
Now with the election over, the new mayor daley has to give back to the leaders of the link card nation and start up the caps program again. He has to give spots to the reverends who supported him and not the vote siphoning, "consensus candidate". He also has to find inside spots for all the phone call people that cannot hide in the fewer spots left in units. Thers is only so much money to be given out. Have to have your priorities.
So we have to help him out by bitching and moaning and going after each other so it will be easier for them to make the cuts that they want to make. having us distracted or pointing fingers to the needed or not cuts.
and when tact, gangs etc are in uniform productivity goes DOWN. because no one wants to get challanged at every stop by gang bangers. Shitheads dont respect the uniform. think you are a "rookie". We know better but they dont. So when in uniform i do less.
3/27/2011 03:06:00 AM
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Wow. You obviously have been out of a beat car for WAY too long. When I get out of the car, in uniform, I COMMAND RESPECT. If I was in plain clothes I would also command respect. You do that by speaking with authority and showing that you are in charge and you OWN the corner. You are not entitled to wear plainclothes, or drive an unmarked. You are sneaking up on rocks and dimebags. You are not saving the world in your jeans and Carharts.
Instead of complaining about Patrol, MSF, TRU, etc. Call your elected public officials a hold them to their campaign promises, HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS. Everybody has complaints but nobody has real solutions. While you’re at it, have your friends and family call as well.
All they are doing is moving people around so they don't have to hire. Everybody seems happy because people are getting dumped. Which unfortunately has made people show true colors and made me realize in fact how divided we really are amongst our dept. That is not the solution, in fact that is a problem. Once again because the city does not want to hire, and everybody here is sipping the kool-aid.
As much effort as you put into reading and posting on this blog, spend half that time and send an e-mail to the outgoing and incoming elected public officials for the city as well as our respective bargaining units.
I’m not trying to get everybody to sing kumbaya and hold hands but we need to get our heads out of our holes and stick together on this issue, perhaps another march at city hall once Rahm gets in office???
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend”
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
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It is funny how you think the beat coppers do nothing, but the beat coppers and most of patrol think YOU do nothing!
That cap!
That fucking baseball cap?
How many times have I told you not to wear that fucking cap?
-- but the thugs wear caps.
I'm not the boss of the thugs. I'm the boss of you.
@ 12:52 a.m., Where the fuck do they find guys like you? Goofball!
On the one hand, Hillar initially stated weeks back that all the "good" officers had been taken out of patrols. This could be interpreted properly as a slight to the good officers in patrol. Those who remained in patrol have served as the backbone of the department under extraordinarily trying conditions under Weis, where manpower was stripped but responsibilities were not.
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I am very sorry to report to you that patrol is in very bad shape because the quality of cops in patrol is the worst it has ever been. These very incompetent cops are now teaching younger officers how to be very bad cops.
The state of patrol is beyond repair. At least 60% cannot write a complete sentence in a case report. There are repeated calls to the Area asking what to do or how to report the most basic police job. If asked, I am certain that half of patrol does not know the elements of a burglary.
Unfortunately for us, too many young officers who would have become good cops left patrol to chase rocks and impound cars. That is all they have learned over the past three years. Now they have 5-8 years on and they still don't have a clue how to do real patrol police work.
So now we have a patrol division filled with many incompetents and we are adding go-getters who don't have a fucking clue what they are doing if the person they're talking to isn't holding drugs.
In two months, there will be a major traffic accident with multiple fatalities. Half the watch will either not respond or respond intending to do nothing. The other half will be searching the dead for rocks. Meanwhile, no one will have the slightest clue what they should be doing or how to clearly report what happened.
I have only 16 years on the job. But I remember having every beat car 2 manned. Every 40s and 50s car 2 manned. 2 or 3 wagons manned. 6 Sgts on the street. This was 3rd watch. So many officers not enough cars that some got to be the plain clothes car.
Where have all these officers gone?
1 man cars everywhere. No rapid response cars. 1 wagon. Etc, etc, etc.
Attitude reflects leadership !!!!!!! enough said..... BE SAFE and back each other up.
153
3/27/2011 12:52:00 AM
I hope you were being sarcastic. If you weren't, you are a tool.
Every time I hear someone on this blog say something like 'if they put me in uniform, I don't work as hard', I have to laugh. Who do you think you are kidding? You don't do anything now.
WAHHH! I don't like my assignment. I'm not working and I'm gonna stamp my feet. Act like an adult, please.
FAX being authored stating that a 90 day detail will be in place by 01 May 2011.
Specialized units ie; Public Trans, Narcotics, Vice, MSF, and even TRU will give up bodies to alloted Districts from May, June, July and then another group from Aug, Sept, Oct.
Have a great summer...NOT!!!!
I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
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I am a MSF Sergeant and I’m certain that most people who work in 153 would say that the author of the above post does not represent our views. To the contrary, this person would be told that to make such statements is divisive and detrimental to us all. Moreover, your making us all look like douche bags when the reality is that it is only you who is the douche bag. So please, stop making us all look bad and shut the fuck up. I am truly embarrassed to be lumped into the group of people that includes this fool. You sir are in a small minority who believes in your inflated ego, perhaps you should fill out an application to the FBI.
"If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?"
Squad, can I get a paper car for this misdemeanor bullshit I on-viewed? I'm already late to my two-hour lunch...
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
3/27/2011 12:52:00 AM
My, we do have an inflated view of ourself, don't we.
PATROL was and is the backbone of the department, oh, arrogant one.
Pissers and drinkers beware.
I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
wow! how big is your hat size? Stop drinking the kool aid at MSF and STFU.
seems to me that with this level of reorganizing, hillard is less a seatwarmer and more a long-term successor... My money says he will be officially named by the rhamfather.
Hmmmmmmm thought 35 street mole said Leo is getting dumped.... NOT! Hey I heard DeLopez will be the next super... Thats why he left Winnetka and came back to run the city college security! I also heard that 35 street mole couldnt find his ass with both hands.. Move along
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Is it change day yet you schmuk!!!!! I was right about them moving po's back. Hope you are on the order that comes out Tues/Weds.
Any tru or gue or msf cuts yet?
Here's the thing. Why not disband TRU and send all of them to the Districts. Let MSF be the sole city wide unit like it was before. Im talking SOS days. Both of the units (TRU and MSF) do the same thing.
"I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153"
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How was your January furlough?
I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
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I'm actually in a unit and agree with you to a sense. However, not all beat coppers are out there doing "nothing". Due to their work it allows you and I to do what we do.
Most of the time they can't hunt like you do because they are handling jobs. So have some respect for them and stop treating them as though they are not our brothers and sisters. Instead of bashing them why don't you help out by coding the BS jobs so they can get a lunch?
Be humble my friend, you never know what tomorrow will bring !
MSF the backbone get a life kid
I love Hillard's quote about that if crime spikes plain clothes MSF will be back in uniform. That'll make one officer look like two, I guess.
3/27/2011 02:38:00 AM
MSF isn't in plain clothes. They wear the uniform like everyone else.
patrol will be fine! this department has been around along time. units such as TRU , GEU and msf are needed to supplement patrol. gang members are notrestricted by geographical borders . if we all work together and stick together maybe this job would be a better place and morale would be higher. for all the Crying babies out there who Are hating on these and other units get over it. there will always be specialized units. besides TRU and MSF are I'n bureau of patrol as far as GEU ,they are the old gangs nort and gangs south out of OCD.
Hey 153, 153 is no more. Wake up. Stop living in the past. lol
153 you are an misguided, in a beat car if focused you will lock up robbers, burgulars, rapist & thieves who prey on real victims. So you keep the agg batts to gangbangers down, on my scale working a beat car you provide service the working people and families of chicago justice which tops providing Gds and Lks less shooting upon them. So you know how to find dope and a pistol. Or serve the occasional warrant. Learn how to follow a crime pattern, take DUI driver off the street, answer calls in a dist to learn the players and people. Too bad real police is above traffic stops on gangbangers which is the focus of Tru & MSF. I know you've look cool riding three deep, while I stopped for a hand waver of a crying teenage girl who said "this guy tried to kidnap me at the park" offender went to prison. What makes a real impact upon this city?
No tact officer writing up domestic reports or any reports.
Why don't we just put uniform shirts on the homeless. That way, we could appear at full strength and wouldn't have to hire new police.
How am I gonna sneak up on those drinkers with my uniform on???
Hey dip shit from 153
your not locking up gangbangers, your jumping on paper. maybe if it didnt take an entire msf team to process one weed arrest or you guys didnt hangout at dd on cermak/western for hours u would be the backbone of the dept. but dont worry your definitely the backbone of the contact card system.
I've never seen or heard of so much foolishness in my life as all these brain fart CPD Management Personnel ideas. They all remind me of Eddie Haskell sucking up to all the Adults on Leave it to Beaver. Just because you have an idea doesn't make it brilliant, and you ALL are Supervisors of a failed regime anyway. So if you are so GREAT, than Why is the CPD so fucked up ??? Get your swollen heads out of your asses and get back to basics. Your great "new" ideas have been tried, and have failed. All of you have NO credibility, in my opinion. Just a bunch of over-inflated egos, and salaries.
I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
3/27/2011 12:52:00 AM
Hahaha. #1 Get over yourself, you're not that special for locking up bangers for dimebags. #2The savage spun out of control a long time ago regardless of the efforts of MSF, TRU, tac, gangs, etc. And finally, when you get dumped back to a beat car, be sure to walk into roll call and announce that you were once the backbone of the dept and that the beat coppers do nothing. Let us know how that goes, superhero.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
Oooo... Im fucking impressed... mr msf douche opens his pie hole and blesses us with his wisdom.
Go fuck yourself!
BTW, Been there, done that. Whan 153 was SOS. Not the waste that it is today. And just to let you know, you arrogant dick, that "Beat Cop"'s pay check is just the same as yours, fool.
Um, this doesn't add one single body to the street.
I am on the tact team and I will do NOthing if I am in uniform!!!!!
Even when you get more Officers you still BITCH. Stop freaking complaining.WE still have to many white shirts per Officers
This is in response to Mr. "MSF is the real backbone of the Dept." guy.
You can't be serious, did you really just say that MSF is the real backbone of the Dept? You guys are really guzzling down the Kool-Aid. They’re going to have to get some convertible Tahoe’s for MSF to accommodate all the fat-heads and inflated egos in that overhyped unit. Sure, you guys are really making a difference out there. If it wasn't for MSF the west side would really be a crime ridden cesspool and not the stable decent community it is today.
Get over yourself! Some of that ink from your cool MSF tattoo has gotten into your bloodstream and gone straight to your brain. The Patrolman was policing the ghetto when MSF was just a twinkle in J-Fled’s eye and rest assured the Patrolman will be policing the ghetto long after that hair-gel of yours has turned hard and crusty.
Patrolman.
Hey mr 153. I think that you must be endulging in some of those dime bags. I'm in patrol and i'll bet my star that i tally more felony arrests than you do each year-Especially over the past 5 years... Oh wait, you have probably only been on the job for three years.
If patrol is the backbone, then why are they paid like shit, treated like they do not matter come contract time and have to deal with such poor supervision?
Stop Merit promoting ass-clowns!
20 percent do 80 percent of the work... regardless of what unit/district.
Look around lazy ass
"listen here Boy, get back to patrol and wear a crisp uniform now, ya hear!"
I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
3/27/2011 12:52:00 AM
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Wow, you REALLY are a hand-job! Maybe your groupies at the bar think you're the shit with your awesome "hoody" on, but you really are a tool.
Go get 'em, SuperBoy!
12:52 am. You are either a stroke trying to make msf look bad or you are just a pompous d-bag that should go back to patrol and learn what is like first. Damn 2 year wonder, you probably wonder why people look at you funny where ever you go. 153.
I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
3/27/2011 12:52:00 AM
You are the reason this department has turned into shit. I can't believe you actually had these thoughts going through your little brain. Maybe if you worked patrol you would have a clue. Why do you think the departments "leaders" are so fucking clueless? Because they never worked patrol, never worked a beat, have no idea how to interact or relate to people on the street or fellow officers. They got off probation, made their phone calls and cried so they could go to a specialized unit so they could do NOTHING. Like come in with dimebags, pissers and drinkers. You fucking tools in msf would not have a clue on how to handel a domestic, csa, or a homicide, you strokes would fuck it up three ways to Sunday. You dorks in msf think your bad asses but I can see it in your eyes when you come into our district (15) to fuck things up, you bitches are scared. I have ZERO respect for your unit and cannot wait till they put you back in patrol then we'll see how bad you really are and what you know.
I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
This is one of the funniest things i have ever read. Thank you 153 for all 6 of you handling that dimebag arrest!!! I just wonder if 6 of you are doing it, why does it still take 3 hours to finish???
If they'd get rid of IPRA and cuy IAD back to 2 officers and a Lieutenant, we could all get back to "grass roots" policing. You know, they get out of line and they're face gets planted in the GRASS and if you see them again you grab them by the hair until you tear the ROOTS out. It worked very well in the 70's, interest rates are where they were back then. Sounds like a win win situation!
Where is WTA.... We need them. Please KB pass your knowledge to the rest of us. I mean, it has worked wonders for "JH and LP" just read JH and her blogs about how she is a top cop at MSF. News worthy arrest's. Listen up gum shoes KB and JH together can eliminate crime single handily. A Company. Great job, Jessica.
COP WHO SAVED MAN FROM BURNING VAN AN 'ANGEL'
"... Chicago Police Officer Claudio Salgado saw smoke pouring out of the van on Tuesday as he drove down Archer Avenue on the way to start his shift. Peter O’Hagan, 61, ignored Salgado, who was shouting and waving at him to get away, and kept digging through the van until Salgado grabbed him and dragged him away.
Salgado pulled him over a concrete highway embankment along Interstate 55 near Throop Street. Seconds later, the van exploded.
NICE JOB OFFICER SALGADO!
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I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
Cockbag,
Your claim that individuals in patrol do nothing is false. I've written more search warrants and made more quality arrests than most people who get into special units and have done most of it in a uniform. By the way, how many of your "dimebag" arrests result in convictions? If you are not getting real convictions you are not doing shit.
Uniformed patrolman
Hey, Unit 153 at 12,52am: You MSF guys are mostly nothing but prima donnas who think your shit don't stink.
Patrol is like the infantry branches of the Army and Marines, all other parts support it, plain and simple. Doing the job your hired on to do is too much for you?
BTW, Officer YA in Unit 153, you are a royal asshole. Get the chip off your shoulder and try being polite to fellow officers when you are stopped for your dangerous driving actions. You know who I am. Come and see me sometime if you have a beef with what I just said.
SCC it is just to make people think that there are more on the street. They will see more in uniforms. The tac & most specialized units are on the street. They need to get all the people out of the offices & hiding in the station behind the desk back on the streets too. Especially the ones with "NO TIME ON THE JOB"
This is completely off-topic but I caught the Bulls game last night and this kid D Rose is an incredible basketball player. I am not an NBA fan and stopped watching the Bulls when the Jordan era was over, but I think MJ was right when he said this team built around Rose could win ANOTHER six championships. The young fella should be the 2011 MVP!
On a related note, would somebody please get Joakim Noah a full length mirror? He couldn't possibly have one, could he? If he did, he'd know how utterly ridiculous he looks with that stupid clump of hair on top of his head!
Anonymous said...
I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
3/27/2011 12:52:00 AM
Considering it takes 8 of you frat boys to process that dime bag thats a pretty f*cking dumb statement..... Stroke.
Anonymous said...
and when tact, gangs etc are in uniform productivity goes DOWN. because no one wants to get challanged at every stop by gang bangers. Shitheads dont respect the uniform. think you are a "rookie". We know better but they dont. So when in uniform i do less.
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On 15 Jun 2011, I'll max out with 29 & a day. I'm 56 years old and I can leave the job with medical benefits. Will I? No! I still work in a ghetto district, as I always have, and I'm still the police. I have worked both CD and uniform assignments and for you to make such a ridiculous statement that the shitheads dont respect the uniform just proves that you sir, are either a rookie or someone baiting a response from other idiots on this website!
Unit bosses are telling plain clothes officers to wear cpd blue pants, cpd blue shirt, white gym shoes, vest with no star and no name tag, and their favorite team baseball cap backwards so that shitheads can tell who's patrol and who's tact.
In two months, there will be a major traffic accident with multiple fatalities.
3/27/2011 10:25:00 AM
Hey Brett, gave up on the murder predictions and went to crashes?
well let start closing that useless building at near north highschool 1450 n larabee and sell that building use that money to help city and take those officer and put them back to the street take all officer working as watch secretaries back to the street take all those limited duties officers and place them at 35and michigan take allofficers working as timekeeper put them back on the street .
If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
3/27/2011 12:52:00 AM
i call bullshit. you aren't assigned to 153. you are just trying to stir up anomosity for no reason other than the fact that you are a malcontent. you screwed up your own life/career so badly that you will never be happy under any circumstances so you try to make others miserable.
nice try doucebag, but you FAIL
now go get your shinebox!
lets eliminated commanders,deputies superintendent positions no need for them save save save money.
...On a related note, would somebody please get Joakim Noah a full length mirror? He couldn't possibly have one, could he? If he did, he'd know how utterly ridiculous he looks with that stupid clump of hair on top of his head!
3/27/2011 08:40:00 PM
Some of us remember Noah's dad playing tennis in the early 80's. If you don't go back that far, please google "Yannick Noah" and you'll see that the kid is just a chip off the old block who is very comfortable moving to his own beat. And that includes his hair!
i have to agree. the shitheads dont respect the uniform. its all to common for a beat car to just pass them up and they continue to do what they do.
all training should be done online period !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!move all those officers back to patrol asap .
It’s really disheartening to read this blog. I sit here and read these posts in total aw. I don’t care what unit your in, where you came from, if you have clout if you don’t have clout………..those things are absolutely trivial at best. How often are WE being shot at? It’s not us against Patrol, us against TRU, us against MSF, us against GEU, us against TACT….ITS ALL OF US AGAINST THEM! All of us have a job to do. All of us have a roll. There are good points on these posts and posts that are completely ridiculous. All the rumors are driving me insane. One post stated how officers in uniform are challenged more….I agree 100%. I don’t see nearly as many uniform beat cars making street stops as I did over 10 years ago. You cant handle these animals like we used to and they know it. If you think these animals don’t read this blog…..your living in a land of make believe. Too many cameras. Nobody wants to end up on CBS at 10. Look what’s going on around you.
"i have to agree. the shitheads dont respect the uniform. its all to common for a beat car to just pass them up and they continue to do what they do."
I've worked both tac and the watch. There is a respect for non-uniform PO's in general that beat officers don't get. Maybe the beat officers just don't give a rat's fuck about the animals in the ghetto? If I drive by as they "do what they do" it's because I could give a fuck if they live or die, they don't care about our safety or well being. The only people I'll go balls-out for are fellow police officers and family of police officers. EVERYONE else can go fuck themselves....as I drive on by!
"On 15 Jun 2011, I'll max out with 29 & a day. I'm 56 years old and I can leave the job with medical benefits. Will I? No!"
Can I ask you WHY the hell would you stay? You are losing money every day you work and are maxed out. On top of that you have medical covered. Go get another job if all you want to do is work, for christ sakes. I'm not a hair gel and I'm not a salty of dog either and I can't wait to get out of this steam of shit city!
GEU will be in uniform, does it really matter. if your the police, your the police.
Hey dip shit from 153
your not locking up gangbangers, your jumping on paper. maybe if it didnt take an entire msf team to process one weed arrest or you guys didnt hangout at dd on cermak/western for hours u would be the backbone of the dept. but dont worry your definitely the backbone of the contact card system.
What are you doing at Cermak and Western numb nuts? Judging from your stats/awards, maybe you should learn how to jump on paper...
all tact cars are assigned one gang in their districts. elminating the gang teams or GEU, good luck fella's
I just dont get how locking up pissers, drinkers, 1 baggers and writing excessive contact cards is looked at as aggressive police work. That is all MSF and TRU does! Seriously, why do you need five guys dressed like airbourne rangers to do the above? Patrol is the backbone of the department. I would be all for this units if they did police aggressively and get the gangs guns and dope but we all know thats not the case. Be safe back each other up and go home! And please stop wearing the hats backwards!! TV COPS..
One day hero from 153 when you grow up and go to a unit that makes quality arrests and get convictions like GEU, Narcotics, or Gang Investigations please brag all you want. Until then please STFU!!!! Send all the idiots from MSF and TRU back to the districts!!!!
The units you mentioned make real arrests, yeah maybe 20% of them and the other are papers jumpers. Narcotics is the worst, you have people who sit in the office waiting to jump on someone elses hardwork. But this bullshit department wont call them on it because they have a phone call.
Again the problem is we spend so much time fighting each other, there is no energy left to fight the true idiots that run this department.
Anonymous said...
I don't agree that "patrol is the backbone" of the department as The supe says. I feel that patrol is the FOUNDATION of the police department but the backbone is the specialized units such as MSF who go out there and lock up the gangbangers who are shooting each other.
If the beat copper stopped doing what they do (nothing) there would be no effect. If we stopped locking up gangbangers be it for gun, dimebags or whatever the savage would spin out of control so who is the REAL backbone of the Dept?
153
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Wow!
Well years ago I worked in 153 SOS late '90's to early 2000's...GOD if you need to talk like this or BS so much and get tattoos and weird shit like that there is something definitely wrong with you...
Most guys I worked with there had some great pinches and successes (per Jimmy "Dogs" "Darlings Gun photo board) but nobody ever gave a shit even then most guys just did their thing to get court time and the bulk of the discussions were at the SGJ on the 10th floor or at 44-2. WHO GIVES A FUCK!
Tact guys and Narcotics guys get great experience having the TIME to sit back and watch and surveil shit and piece together search warrants....SOS never had that luxury....HEY maybe that was the problem? WHATEVER!
So anyways whatever 153 is now or has been in the last 5 years or so is a microcosm of what it used to be and will never know true CHARACTERS that decorated that gun board to make some bosses career!
See you boys at Websters next Xmas and Bugsy stay off the damn bar bro your gonna break it!
3 bars
TO: it doesn't matter if you are in hard or soft clothes, it's what comes out of your mouth that counts--- gangbangers know right away if you know what you are talking about or you are a clown---
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I agree and disagree. i've been doing this tac/gang thing for over 10+ years now and its true they size you up be the way you carry yourself BUT you do get more resistance and flak right off the bat. they don't respect the uniform. its a symbol of authority so they instinctivly push back. encounters are easier in soft clothes. take it to the bank. in fact i think there was a study on this and it was "proven"
Wow. You obviously have been out of a beat car for WAY too long
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yea you are right. too long/ and at some point you get tired of pushing back hard, and "commanding" respect and taking control and fighting the fight all the time. you'll see. i know how to do it , i just get tired of TRRs , resisting packets IODs, ect. OK tough guy? talk to me when you have WORKED for 20 years, in ghetto etc and over half of that on tac and gangs.
This is completely off-topic but I caught the Bulls game last night and this kid D Rose is an ....................................................
REMEMBER when he was in the news paper flashing GD gang signs in a picture? that was pretty cool huh?
On 15 Jun 2011, I'll max out with 29 & a day. I'm 56 years old and I can leave the job with medical benefits. Will I? No! I still work in a ghetto district, as I always have, and I'm still the police. I have worked both CD and uniform assignments and for you to make such a ridiculous statement that the shitheads dont respect the uniform just proves that you sir, are either a rookie or someone baiting a response from other idiots on this website!
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Your are obviously not a very smart man since the only logical course of action is for you to retire and enjoy a few years of your life. you will be working for the same amount of $$ you could make working at Best Buy twice a week.
On 15 Jun 2011, I'll max out with 29 & a day. I'm 56 years old and I can leave the job with medical benefits. Will I? No! I still work in a ghetto district, as I always have, and I'm still the police. I have worked both CD and uniform assignments and for you to make such a ridiculous statement that the shitheads dont respect the uniform just proves that you sir, are either a rookie or someone baiting a response from other idiots on this website!
Not sure who wrote the post that you commented on, but you are insane if you do not go the day you max out. Sure I respect the fact that you still work in the ghetto district, but be real the department does no give a flying fu@# about you, so why stay longer then you have to, not to mention if you wait you may get fu@# because Rahm intends on changing all active po's pensions, so why risk it.
Oh, wait unless you are a Lt or Cpt still working in ghetto district, that explains why you do not want to leave. You never actually have to deal with the beast as a LT. or a CPT.
I am on the tact team and I will do NOthing if I am in uniform!!!!!
You are the on tact team but you are a douche if you are serious. I hope you are only joking.
Keep the units exaclty were they are. The only thing that needs to change is when the unit is in your area notify the dispatcher and allow the dispatcher to assign them radio jobs. The stupid bs that the outside units pull, example squad I just on-viewed and accident could you assign a paper car or squad we just had a hand waiver can you assign a paper car has got to stop. Distrtrict tact teams pull the same bs. Last time I checked we are all police officers so why in the hell can't an outside unit or tact officer handle the fu@#en paper for a traffic crash or a simple battery report. That is were the arrogance just shouts out. If you are that important, you would not be a police officer, so stop the ego and just be the police.
Oh, wait unless you are a Lt or Cpt still working in ghetto district, that explains why you do not want to leave. You never actually have to deal with the beast as a LT. or a CPT
Captain here that works in Area 2, although I can't get out for a whole tour, I get out as often as I can, from a couple to a few hours a night when I have a desk Sgt.(most days) GFY!!!!!
maxed out at 56--- if you retire right now you will probably take home at least 500 dollars more a month than you are making right now--- no more paying for medical, no more pension contribution, no more deferred compensation--- call the pension board and have them give you a number, it may make you change your mind--- if you're worried about being bored pick up a little side gig somewhere or learn how to golf.....
As a detective, I know that there is a collective problem with TRU and MSF that I never experienced with other units like narcotics and SOS. Although this problem comes up time and again with any case, the problem is pervasive when the case involves either TRU or MSF.
In every case I have handled involving TRU or MSF, I have been lied to. Every single case. Most times the lies were meaningless and easily corrected or ignored, other times the lies could not be repaired and the case fell apart.
I don't know if it is supervision or just a case of group think. I don't think that these officers are corrupt. I think that there is a habitual effort to one up others, even others on their own team. Maybe it is because many of these officers are insecure in their spot and feel they are always on the verge of getting dumped. Guys in narcotics and SOS didn't have this kind of insecurity. Maybe they've gotten so used to lying that it has become second nature. Maybe they're even lying to themselves.
I believe that if any of the officers handled their case as an individual beat car, this would not be a problem. But, when these officers become a member of TRU/MSF it definitely becomes a problem.
Unfortunately for the younger cops, they have no idea that years down the road this nonsense will cause them real problems.
There is some slight truth to Tact wearing the uniform and being in plain clothes. It really does seem that people are reluctant to tell you information when you are in uniform as opposed to when you are civilian dress.
If you disagree with me you obviously never been on a scene of a shooting (in plain clothes) and someone whispered "aye, detective..." and went on to tell you information.
But still, it all depends on how you talk to people.
at least we all get to grow goatees
And, how long did Hillard's kids work a beat car? And, Hillard promoted Stanley to Commander, enough said. Please leave
only problem is in patrol
BOSSES have NO BACKBONE
if you're worried about being bored pick up a little side gig somewhere or learn how to golf.....
3/28/2011 08:29:00 AM
volunteers are welcome.
Chalkie
To 3/28 @ 1001am... "Detective" you are one stupid mother fucker to be posting comments like this on the board. Why would you make this public knowledge moron?weather it is true is debatable and no I am NOT in either of these units. A supervisor...
If the beat coppers were doing their job then we wouldn't need specialized units like tru or MSF or even tact....I know where I work in the glorius northside many of us havn't made an arrest other than shoplifters for years...and I for one don't plan on making any others....and ya know what...know one seems to care so neither do I...
Instead of complaining about Patrol, MSF, TRU, etc. Call your elected public officials a hold them to their campaign promises, HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS.
I agree we need more police officers but first we have to weed out all the inside dogasses that are being hidden at headquarters, and in every district commanders office...there are at least 11 people doing jobs that could be done very well by only 3 or 4officers or better yet civilians....has any of these stupid ass commanders ever heard of the phrase cross training....so the review officers could fill in for district secretary and vise versa..maybe even district secretary or their assistant learning timekeeping, so a full duty officer isn't in there assisting the poor civiian who has about 3 hours of work a day. There are so many people being hidden inside on this department it's almost comical, unless you're the officer needing back up and nobody is there for you...
189 needs to be cut down in half!!! It has become an over sized tact team.
To the young BOY who works TAC and says that he will do a thing back in uniform, I after many years and I just bet maybe I have 25 yrs on you that if you are a good copper, it doesn't matter if you are naked, if you are good at your job in fighting crime you can do it in uniform too, The problem eith you youngsters is that you think that you are secret agents in plain clothes and that nobody can do it better then you, grow up, if you don't like being the police, go find another job for $10.00 an hour.
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