Alvarez - Investigate the Police
Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez asked the Illinois State Police on Thursday to investigate the Chicago Police Department’s handling of a homicide case involving Richard J. “R.J.” Vanecko, who’s a nephew of Mayor Daley and White House Chief of Staff William Daley.
“I think there should be an independent police investigation,” Alvarez said.
She pointed to a series of stories in the Chicago Sun-Times this month that raised questions about the police investigation into the violent death of David Koschman seven years ago.
So Anita is recommending the Illinois State Police investigate? Whose name did we just see being floated by Sneed as the next head of the ISP? Oh yeah, former CPD exempt Hiram Grau. That's going to go over like a ton of bricks.
And aren't there large portions of the file missing from Anita's office already? Files when Devine was in charge? Devine, who was Daley's right hand when Shortshanks was State's Attorney?
And no one over at Devine's office thought to go for a manslaughter indictment? A Grand Jury would have eaten that one up.
Yeah, nothing to see here folks.
And aren't there large portions of the file missing from Anita's office already? Files when Devine was in charge? Devine, who was Daley's right hand when Shortshanks was State's Attorney?
And no one over at Devine's office thought to go for a manslaughter indictment? A Grand Jury would have eaten that one up.
Yeah, nothing to see here folks.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
138 Comments:
In this case? Cool. Maybe R.J. gets his you-know-what caught in the wringer after all...
What a failure anita is! Hey anita how about calling the FEDS in like the FBI and Fitzgerald even though weakened by barry obama they could pack a punch and get the criminal VANEKO! What is going on now anita is blaming the police? Great anita,your office and yourself are so weak,you want to fuck over the coppers not your lazy office!
This 'investigation' will go nowhere to. As has already been stated here, 'nothing to see, move along now.'
Seems like she's trying to suck ass- getting on camera like that- what political office will she be attempting to get during the next election?
Got to love city politics.
I have asked in the past for Second City Cop to call for a RECALL OF COOK COUNTY STATES ATTORNEY ANITA ALVAREZ!!!!!!!!
SHE IS LYING!!!!!!! She always Picks and Chooses who she prosecutes or HOLD GRAND JURIES FOR.
She holds Grand Juries for ANY assumed police misconduct TO prosecute police officers ALL THE TIME!!!
She does this WITHOUT HALF THE EVIDENCE SHE HAS WITH THE INFORMATION SHE FRECEIVED ON MAYOR DALEY'S NEPHEW.
Now she is acting like the POLICE didnt give her the correct information.??????
SHE IS LYING AND GRANDSTANDING!!!
As she received this new so-called information from witnesses in the last week; THIS ALONE IS ENOUGH TO CONVENE A GRAND JURY.
We must ban together and STOP ANITA NOW!!!!!
ANITA IS A FAKE, FRAUD AND LIAR!!!
AND A DALEY SUPPORTER. SHE IS SCARED THAT SHE WOULD NOT RECIEVE THAT SPECIAL APPOINTMENT FROM THE WHITE HOUSE NOW................
ANITA, JACK BLAKEY - AND ALL HER FRAUDULENT PROSECUTORS MUST GO PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!
What a load of shit. Like one of the comments in the Sun Times article said, she has covered all the bases on this one. Grau will be the new ISP boss, used to work for her, and is former CPD brass. She's got nothing to worry about. Only in Crook County!
Why dont they wait three more years until the trail is colder?
Somebody should look at this dam case... I can not understand why jody the snitch did not have his "friends" look at it?
But then again it's king daley's nephew, silly me, just silly that's why
I am a public defender in Cook county. The State police are totaly owned by the Daley crime family. This is another joke on the people of the good state of Il.
Nothing but nothing will come of this investigation....take that to the bank!!
WHERE ARE THE FEDS???
You have to use these crisis's baby!
Don't let them go to waste turn loose the wolfs.
Madigan likes those FOIA's right?
Step up girl. You know how to talk the talk when it comes to gun registration and "public needs to know" Now it's time to walk the walk.
It's already too late ...they already butchered the homicide beyond repair...and on purpose...
I think there's a huge federal conspiracy case I'd the Feds had the balls to take it on.....
Hate to say it, but isn't this one case where you'd want the Feds to investigate? If Devine's people lost a file at his/Daley's behest, finding that out might put Shortshanks on the witness stand, under oath. And if we all think--know--he cannot talk sense when the cameras are rolling, imagine the gibberish that will spew when the Feds have him sitting there, sizing him up for an orange jumpsuit to match George Ryan's.
If street cops or detectives were pressured by exempts to put this heater case down, and they did so, they would be screwed. But so would all the higher-ups they might testify against.
An ugly situation in any case, but better the Feds than the State cops.
Not to worry. They might hang a few underlings, but nobody of any signifigance will lose so much as a day's pay & Vanecko will never be charged.
CBS should bring back the television show Cold Case. Cold Case television Senior Detective Lilly Rush could reopen the case. She would definately get to the bottom of it!
It won't matter who is investigating--Vaneko is not going to pay the price for attacking this guy...maybe if Quaddafi was investigaing it, there would be some appropriate action taken against him.
Hahahahahaha! Well, Rahm is spreading the word he wants to cut the city council in HALF.
Let the games begin.
Alverez has the Sun-Times newspaper conduct the investigation and interview witnesses, I always thought that was the responsibility of her Office, I always thought that State Statues say Probable Cause is needed to make an arrest and present the evidence in Court, guess if your contected their is never enough Probable Cause
"Anonymous said...
I am a public defender in Cook county. The State police are totaly owned by the Daley crime family. This is another joke on the people of the good state of Il.
Nothing but nothing will come of this investigation....take that to the bank!!
WHERE ARE THE FEDS???
3/25/2011 01:11:00 AM"
I am not a Public Defender, I am a cop. The ISP on ground level and individually are great people. But, through Quinn and the Daley C.F. they are owned.
It is a roll of the dice; she gets her moment doing this. If she doesn’t get the results she wants she can roll again and call in the Feds who can prosecute for lying to them.
The Feds through Obama, Durban and Rahm are also owned by the Daley Crime Family. Why have they not prosecuted Richard M. and Patrick?
In the end the Feds could throw the cops under the bus and leave everyone in the Daley C.F. alone.
Alvarez is merely trying to deflect the heat from her office.
More diversion, smoke and mirrors.
Typical.
The heat is brought up here on the SCC site, the Slum Times runs with it, Alvarez blames the police.
1) Where's the (States Attorney) file? Lost? Bwahahaha!
2) Where's the Grand Jury investigation that would also focus on the States Attorneys Office.
Everybody (Daley speak: evybudy) knows that the States Attorney approves (OR DENIES) the (Felony)charges...NOT THE POLICE.
The Felony Revue Unit interviews witnesses, requests additional investigation, evidence, photos etc. ad nauseum prior to approving or rejecting felony approval.
The Police only gather and present this info/evidence to Felony Revue for THEIR approval/rejection. (Their policy, not ours)
And we all know that that office is also politically connected and controlled.
So bring in a Grand Jury. Investigate the States Attorney as well. Find that 'lost' file.
Will we see closure?
Me thinks, NOT.
Defer the heat, just blame the police.
Typical.
Why doesn't the media go after Vanneko like they went after John Burge?
Three Male ASA's received their grades from their female Diversity education instructor.
One got a D+, the second a D- and the third an F.
"One day we should get her for this," said the first ASA.
"I agree. We'll grab her..." said the second ASA.
"Yeah," said the third ASA. "And then we'll kick her in the nuts!"
Remember what one of Anita's campaign promises was? Investigate and prosecute the police. So shaky Grau takes over the State police and Anita tells him find something wrong so she can prosecute something and that something will be the low man on the pol(Dets).Hope someone asks Grau about his partner for a year and a half at gangs north,good old Joe Meizanowski. Grau will run and hid like he always did.Good luck State guys. Watch your backs.He deflects all heat to the next in line.Great speaker too. Just review the interview he did with Pam Zeckman on homicide stat's while he was Dept Sup with good old Phil.
OFF TOPIC: But worth talking about. This morning on New Radio 78 it was mentioned that our New Mayor wants to reduce the number to 25. Wow! Great idea, but not an original one. Whats has SCC been saying all these years?
hey are they going to pass that law that suspends your cpd pension while you are working for another agency? city,state,feds? these politians will have to stop collecting for a short while
Just another idiot! Then we have eddie burke in today's sin times talking about cutting the alderman to save money! hey eddie you could save at least a million by cutting your huge police security detail1 Practice what you preach!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Seems like she's trying to suck ass- getting on camera like that- what political office will she be attempting to get during the next election?
3/25/2011 12:15:00 AM
She wants to be typical political do nothing crook county judge!
Cozzi slaps a disease-ridden Shithead = a Federal Indictment & several years in the clink. Daley's Nephew actually KILLS someone & NOTHING. All legit in the Second City.
If Vanecko was Joe Q. Citizen, he would have already been indicted, tried and sentenced. Any number of charges would have worked. As much as RJ is hated, murder would not have worked without intent. but manslaughter, or "agg batt on the public way" would easily have met the legal threshold for a guilty. but it's silly to keep dreaming that he'll be charged someday. different rules for different people. in that regard, Daley is more british than irish.
What kind of political move is this? Alvarez wants the state police to investigate a case that she is not willing to take to the grand jury because it would be "unethical" for her to do it? she's got something up her sleeve.
Charge Abbate (still and always a d-bag) with Agg. Battery when there was no serious injury but when Vanecko kills someone the case isn't even CI'd by ASA. There are plenty of cases in which the offender in a single punch case has been charged when there was serious injury or death.
I still wonder if the Pension Fund money R.J. stole wasn't spread around as hush money.
From what I understand Live Line-Ups were held, two seperate viewers POSITIVELY identified a filler as the offender. That alone destroys the case right there. STRIKE ONE!
Also, Vanechko arrived with his attorney and refused to speak with Detectives. As suspicious as it is, he has the constitutional right to do so. No confession obtained. STRIKE TWO!
As much as I, or any other member of this department would enjoy putting a criminal member of the Daley family behind bars, this case is a pile of shit that was presented to an ASA who refused to approve charges. They could have C.I'D at any time to put it back in CPD'S court. STRIKE THREE!
Sorry folks.... R/D is requesting this investigation be classified as EX-CLEAR CLOSED, OTHER
if vanecko was the one who was punched and he fell and hit his head and subsequently died do you think this kid would have just walked away--- sorry mr. and mrs. vanecko, it was self defense, we cannot charge him, not enough evidence.... that kid would have been sitting in prison already guaranteed....
Why isn't the ST and Carol Marin bringing up the Patrick Daley angle? Who joined the Army right as this was happening? Who could be a twin brother to his cousin? Who has famous beer muscles and a hotter temper than his father?
Of course, nothing will happen. The Daleys hold too many markers and IOUs, just like the Corleone family did to other famous and powerful people.
It is not a federal offense so don't count on the FBI to intervene. However, how about one of the Major Crime Task Force that exist in the surburban areas? Lots of good investigators? I just do not believe that the CPD detectives buckled under any presuure to bury this case. If anything, it came from the incomplete investigation done by them or by an incompetant investigator who failed to document the interviews properly. In something as important as a murder investigation, why did CPD not take written statements from the witnesses?? I just do not see the reasoning for this. Now the witnesses are claiming that what is in the detectives reports is not what they said? Who is telling the truth?? Why are parts of the file now missing? Every homicide case should be digitized by the CPD and the file should have an index. There are some very poor investigative practices going on.
OT, but proof the Tiny Dancer reads SCC:
From the Sun-Times:
Rahm Emanuel considers cutting City Council seats in half
Mar 25, 2011 09:25AM
Mayor-elect Rahm Emanuel has broached a touchy subject during private meetings with aldermen to solicit their ideas on budget and ethics reform: cutting the nation’s second-largest City Council in half. Several aldermen, who asked to remain anonymous, said they were stunned when Emanuel opened the discussion by asking them point-blank, “What do you think about going down to 25 aldermen?”
http://www.suntimes.com/4493222-417/rahm-emanuel-considers-cutting-city-council-seats-in-half.html
Rahm to cut city council to 25??!!
If we had any real reporters in this city, this case would stay on the front burner until the i's were dotted and the t's were crossed, and the correct person was charged.
FUCKING BULLSHIT!!
This broad is trying to protect her political ass by investigating the police?!
Only in Chicago and Cook County.
Someone needs to inform the Public that nothing gets charged without the State's Attorney's Office.
"Our Office wasn't consulted" is FUCKING BULLSHIT. The public needs to know. Darren "'I never met a case that I couldn't C/I or reject" O' Brien never let a case pass through Felony Review without him being all over it. Alvarez can say that they weren't consulted because O'Brien most likely jagged around the dicks and didn't even start a file. Let the public know.
Alvarez wants to look into the conduct of the police? Who lost the fucking file?!? A homicide investigation is always open. Let the public know.
And tell jags like Flint Taylor that African Americans, too, are identified and never charged in homicides.
That's what passes for criminal justice in Cook County.
The public needs to know.
You know, it is just possible that she is trying to do the right thing. I doubt that whatever happpened to the case rises to the level of a federal crime, unless some kind of RICO conspiracy can be proven and that is a long shot at best. That leaves the County Sheriff and the State Police to investigate. Notice that she did not call on the Sheriff. I personaly would like to see just where this goes.
OT: Just wanted to say that 006 district officers along with assists from surrounding districts did an awesome job in catching 2 offenders last night which stemmed from at least 2 people that were robbed early in the morning hours today in 006. The offenders also shot at the police and but the officers were on point and got em in custody quick with a recovery. Too bad the offenders are still breathing though. I hope they get the jail time they deserve....which they probably won't after all of that hard work. The dispatcher that was handling this incident did a great job too. She didn't miss a beat. Great job guys!! And a speedy recovery to the officers that got hurt during this fiasco.
From a proud fellow officer
Its a circus and the politicians are circling the wagons and who will take the blame? The investigators/detectives who handled the investigation. The little guy always takes the fall.
Ask Darren O'Brien where the felony review file is.
Did anyone notice the Daley family float at the ST. Paddy's Day parade?
Who was on it?
Let's just say a certain individual whose last name starts with a "V" was on there.
Sending a message I guess, huh?
why not investigate Alvarez for aggravated stupidity!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is NOT the VANEKO who STOLE our Pension money. It's his younger & weaker brother. Still from Privlidged family But not the same guy.
Just saying:::
We can still Hate- but know who it is.
What a scumbag she is. The blame always gets put on us. I'm sure CBS Chicago will run with it, they don't report on anything else but alleged police misconduct.
OT Rahm wants to reduce number of aldercreatures , CPD , CFD and all city employees let's get behind him on this one . Lets also reduce number of police districts to 23
less bosses and housecats , more officers for patrol and money for pay increase next contract
reduce alderman to 20 , that's more than New York city and Los Angelos . CPD more officers hired , means less money in budget for pay raises . Most of us have been working harder , now time for us to demand all the housecats are put back in a beat car
Anyone who thinks a missing felony review file means anything has their head up their ass. What's in a FR file? An incident report and supps! That's usually it. A FR file can be easily recreated.
Mutual combat-nothing to see here whether it's Daley's nephew or not.
I would be willing to bet that a good detective has his own file that at this point should be closely guarded...
The Daleys are the Kennedys.
They just replaced the Baston accent with dems and dos and over ders.
Two criminal families just about 800 miles apart.
What, did everyone forget. Didn't Darren O-Brien, then head of Felony Review, interview the witnesses. The States Attorney's office is turning this back on the Police. Just like they always do.
Have to agree with 4:10 am. Grau i believe was head of cpd investgative services when this happened and now maybe in charge on the state level. Its a shame. Hope it was worth it hiram. Lisa madigan and p fitzgerald are the two that should have had this investigated and set this travesty of justice for prosecution. I guess the irish cabal gets away not only with the robbery of the public coffers, but now murder. If his name was a calabrese, sánchez, blagojavich, or tomzcak, fitzgerald would have been all over this case. O' bama should be tried/impeached if he's been involved in stifling any investigation of his COS kin. The 2012 elections are right around the corner, we have a civic duty to stop the spread of the virus known a Daleyitis. The Audacity of Hope and "Change" became an oxymoron, once daleyitis became its host. Containment, would be the ultimate cure.
Where's the Federal Civil Rights Violation investigation? What a weak-ass move by the SA. You might as well ask for the Secretary of State Police to handle this one for all the push they want it to get. No, better yet; Dept. of Revenue. Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, maybe there's a Cub Scout with nothing better to do this weekend. Oh snap, what badge would he earn for this? A 'Blues Clues?'
SO THEY LOSE FILES?
THE AREA DOESNT HAVE COPIES?
AND ALL THOSE NOSEY ASS EXEMPTS WHO ALWAYS WANT COPIES DONT PONY UP EITHER!
FUNNY HOW THE DETECTIVES WILL GET THE BLAME.
ALL U DICKS WHO THINK UR WHITE SHIRT ELDERS WILL TAKE CARE OF U SHOULD WATCH AND LEARN.
A COUPLE HOURS OF COMP TIME AND IT SEEMS EVERYONE ELSE GET PROMOTED WHILE U TAKE THE FALL.
MAY BE THE STATE SHOULD FROM NOW ON HAVE TO CREATE A DOCUMENT FOR THE RECORD WHY CHARGES ARE NOT APPROVED AND ADD THAT TO THE FILE.
BUT THAT WOULD MEAN TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR BULLSHIT DECISIONS.
MUTUAL COMBAT MY ASS!
Anonymous said...
I am a public defender in Cook county. The State police are totaly owned by the Daley crime family. This is another joke on the people of the good state of Il.
Nothing but nothing will come of this investigation....take that to the bank!!
WHERE ARE THE FEDS???
3/25/2011 01:11:00 AM
The feds are busy trying to protect President Obama.
hey..the ASA office does a great job with those shoplifter upgrades!
Folks, the Feds are never going to get involved in this, no matter how dirty and corrupt it appears.
Why? Simple.
Pat Fitzgerald's boss is U.S.A/G Eric Holder. Eric Holder's boss is Barack Hussein Obama. B.H. Obama, of course, has already been bought and paid for by the Daley crime family, of whom R.J. Vanecko is a nephew.
Game over.
Hey ALVAREZ! Stop messing with the police!
Why don't you clean up your own house first!
Instead of having ISP investigate the CPD's handling of the investigation, why not have ISP investigate the Cook Co. State's Attorney?
OT- please enough on the DUI. Lets be careful out there. We have helped everyone, civilians as well as each other. As long as no one was hurt, many people have been taken home, with keys handed over to their spouses. You know who you are. Sometimes people dont use good judgement and if we have an opportunity to help someone out of a jam we usually do, regardless if they have a badge or not. We have to be careful, sometimes the po's hands are tied. Especially if he or she is given a direct order, by a supervisor. We are in this together, professional courtesy, works both ways. Lets try not to put our fellow po's or new supervisors in a position of taking our freedom away.
http://www.businessinsider.com/rahm-emanuel-suggests-slashing-chicago-city-council-by-half-2011-3
R.I.C.O.????
Doesn't she have investigators of her own she might be using? Oh yea, they're pretty much political hacks that couldn't or wouldn't do much police work wherever they came from. Not to mention those that became SA investigators without any prior police experience.
Show me one drunken fistfight, except if it involved off duty police, that the CCSAO ever prosecuted. Any fist fight on the public way is aggravated battery if there is no justification. It would seem any one party at any time could claim self defense in a fight. As long as it is fair, probably never would get a murder conviction. but shouldn't it be up to a judge or jury if the evidence and statements are conflicting. Judge would rule for RJ anyway. Drop it...
why do all of you think the Fed;s are going to do any more than the others. The Fed's will put us in jail for slapping a goof, but Obama will not let any of the Daleys go to prison.....Hell king Daley shoulda been there already!
Heard a copper in 16 tac might be facing criminal charges for a dui that should of been. Fly on the wall
"Alvarez -- Investigate R.J. Vanecko"
Just thought I'd get you pointed in the right direction.
Thes corrupt individuals have to start being fully investigated, the corrupt ones ALL must go to prison, in all public matters. Carol Marin is on talk radio now, and the whole thing sounds like a complete coverup. Hilliard won't even allow a news conference, very shady. Pretty soon Crookago will be empty of taxpayers and be Detroit # 2. Everyone I talk with, EVERYONE, is totally fed up with Chicago bullshit.
Investigate the states attorney office, they sure do know how to loose files. Make copies of all your stuff for court so that when they loose stuff you cam " refresh" their minds
a off duty copper throws 20 punches at a skinny bartender, misses on 99.9% of them , doesnt hurt the girl but is charged with agg battery, a guy shoots someone and that someone is grazed, due to the lack of injury the offender who did the shooting is charged with a simple battery, he of course is not the police.....
now now before you huff and puff, what the drunk copper did was disgusting,wrong, wrong,wrong....and he has all the worst coming to him, noone condones what that idiot did, but come on, the law is the law and in cook county its has never been used right ............
anita alvarez is grand standing, just like all the rest before her........
remember cook rhymes with crook
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Maybe they can help out this department too:
Yorkville police on hunt for 2,500 missing rubber ducks. Thousands of rubber ducks were stolen over the weekend from the Yorkville Citizen Police Academy. They are used for a fundraiser.
So far no tips or clues LOL.
Anita, you need to investigate your own office. But you won't do that because your puppet masters won't let you.
And now that Obama has a Daley for a chief of staff, the feds have Chicago puppet masters too.
Nothing will be done. Nothing.
Hey FBI. How does it feel to be treated like the locals you detest? Heh, heh, heh. Run along now. Your master is calling. And he's calling in bad Bridgeport English.
J-Fled wasn't the only fed that Shortshanks used like a bitch. He and his brother at the White House are going to make all of them their bitches.
They can't bite the hand that feeds them shit. They'll just have to eat it and act like they like it.
Meant only to appease Carol Marin, aka the Queen Mum,whose beak got out of joint when she was rightfully ignored.
Your 15 minutes were up long ago, Marin.
The defense lawyer would undoubtedly ask for a bench trial, and then submit a motion to fix. Maybe they'll even bring back DeLeo as a baliff.
The media is picking this up -- the victim's mother was on WBBM Radio news today, saying that she hopes something is done about her son's killing.
After all, the trail of gunpowder along the ground that has now been lit doesn't stop at CPD, but keeps going all the way back to right under R.J. Vanecko's butt.
He is the original problem.
Better buy a one-way ticket to Uzbekistan or someplace, R.J.
Have a nice life.
I may be wrong, but wasn't Hiram in charge of investigations for Chicago when this murder happened. now Anita is asking for The State police to investigate it and guess who is charge now Hiram. What a fucking disgrace.
OT --
Chicago to Issue $1 Billion in Bonds for O'Hare Airport Expansion
Rachel Krech – Thu Mar 24, 9:13 pm ET
"The O'Hare International Airport expansion project is taking another step further, according to the Sun-Times.
"Mayor Richard M. Daley plans to issue about $1 billion in bonds that would prompt and support the construction of a brand new runway in addition to several other projects at the airport. These would include the building of a new air traffic control tower, the relocation of Irving Park Road, several facility buildings, and even the finishing of another runway that involves relocating those buried at a tiny cemetery where the runway will be.
"The bonds will be issued the week of April 18 and although they were approved by the City Council this past fall, a lawsuit filed by American and United Airlines put the bond issuing on hold. The airlines dropped the lawsuit in light of the recent developments in the expansion project deadlock..."
http://news.yahoo.com/s
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Madman Daley WILL NOT STOP.
saving her Federal appointment as a Judge, that's all!
OT: City fails breathalyzer test in 1,100 cases
March 24, 2011|By DANA DiFILIPPO, difilid@phillynews.com 215-854-5934
"We screwed up, folks. We screwed up, plain and simple, and now we're paying for it," Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey said yesterday morning at a news conference at police headquarters.
Once again, the scandal plagued Philly P.D. is making headlines under its leader Charles Ramsey, and yet he is expected to waltz into Chicago and make things right?
Where is the media on this? Phil Cline had to leave for way less than what has happened on Ramsey's
watch in Philly. Just do a little research on-line, I did. Hello? Bueller...Bueller?
Anonymous said...
Maybe they can help out this department too:
Yorkville police on hunt for 2,500 missing rubber ducks. Thousands of rubber ducks were stolen over the weekend from the Yorkville Citizen Police Academy. They are used for a fundraiser.
So far no tips or clues LOL.
3/25/2011 02:50:00 PM
How about it! lol. I am sure if this happened in the two tiered system of dicipline in Crook County, they would give this offender prison time if caught!
All you people here asking for the FEDS to investigate are tools! Dude, if it hasn't happened already in the 40 years of Daley power, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN....Get over it. FEDS are just as deep in his pockets as everyone else.
wish my uncle was da mayor when I gots in trouble wit my taxes a few yrs ago,it would of been swept under d a rug like VANEKO, its not what you know its WHO u know,yuuuuuuup crook county
Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC: But worth talking about. This morning on New Radio 78 it was mentioned that our New Mayor wants to reduce the number to 25. Wow! Great idea, but not an original one. Whats has SCC been saying all these years?
3/25/2011 08:23:00 AM
Yeah ok. Just like he "thought" about our residency!
Agreed that Anita is a piece of lying backstabbing crap. I like her verbage: wanting to ensure that cpd did an appropriate investigation. FU Anita, cpd has their files, where's yours?
I just wish someone from cpd would stand up and tell the truth of what happened behind the scenes back then.
And now Anita hands the case right back to Hiram, who was in charge of it in the first place back in 2004! Keep shouting Carol Marin...
off topic
City pushes to hard!
Just got a call from corp counsel and told me the dirt bag that shot at the police and was then shot by the police 6 times LOST his suit. Took a couple of weeks to fight it, but the city did win.
Good Job
And at one time we all thought the Kennedy's ran the country........LMAO
"Rahm is spreading the word he wants to cut the city council in HALF."
--3/25/2011 06:40:00 AM
Hey, that's OK, half an alderman would do me as much good as none at all.
Pat Levar is the size of TWO f__ing aldermen and no one ever called back when we needed something.
What difference would it make?
To be fair, her letter asks that the case be reviewed "in it's entirety" which includes her own office's involvement ala Darren O'Brien. Who was she supposed to ask? The Sheriff??? Scotland Yard??? That would be ridiculous. If the ISP want, they can ask the Feds to participate in the investigation of the whole thing (Vanecko, the investigation, etc). I doubt any of her male predecessor's would have had the balls to do what she's doing.
"Did anyone notice the Daley family float at the St. Paddy's Day parade?
"Who was on it?
"Let's just say a certain individual whose last name starts with a "V" was on there.
"Sending a message I guess, huh?"
--3/25/2011 11:02:00 AM
Yeah, good. Let it be heard loud and clear.
HEY,PEOPLE. THAT'S R.J. VANECKO STANDING THERE WEARING A GREEN SASH AND LAUGHING IN YOUR FACE. HE IS ABOVE THE LAW AND WON'T BE PROSECUTED FOR KILLING SOMEONE BECAUSE HE'S MAYOR DALEY'S NEPHEW.
No matter what else happens here, that comes out.
This comes out too --
STATE'S ATTORNEY ANITA ALVAREZ WOULD RATHER GO AFTER THE POLICE THAN GO AFTER A KILLER.
Heard a copper in 16 tac might be facing criminal charges for a dui that should of been. Fly on the wall
3/25/2011 01:58:00 PM
Yes. Filing a false 911 call. Dumb ass. Anita will handle this one herself.
With all the cameras in this town, was this murder erased?
R.I.C.O.????
3/25/2011 01:20:00 PM
You have no idea what that even means dickhead. Yes now look it up and try to make yourself not look stupid. I read your future post and tell you how dumb you are.
Some people need the police to protect them.
Koschman's mother was on the radio just now, saying "she knew R.J. Vanecko didn't mean to kill her son."
With all due respect, she knows no such thing. She's just civilized to a fault.
That's hardly the worst thing you can say about someone, but it is a weakness in some situations. This is one of them.
Do not ever think that there is a similar moment of concern for anyone but themselves in the Vanecko and Daley households. There most assuredly is not.
How did the Mayor's own son pick up a nickname like "Batters?" Think a minute.
God bless you, Mrs. Koschman. You're just too decent. The Daleys and Vaneckos are not fit to take out your garbage.
Now let the authorities do their job and dig out the truth and punish the guilty.
It is now time to start quoting ASA's in our Det. supps.
Treat communications with them as though they are witnesses and memorialize EVERYTHING they say.
Then they will be called to testify at trial. This will then open them up to lawsuits!!! If Anita wants hardball, then let's play. The curtain should be lifted so that the citizens can see what is really going on!
I believe there is some reason why this case is being brought up now - when they finish the investigation, they will give some reason, such as the statute of limitations expired on charges and they couldn't prove murder. Why did the Suntimes wait 11 years to address this after the incident?
What Does The Cook County States Attorney's Office Do ? Do They Not Prosecute Criminal Cases ? Do They Not Have A Staff Of Investigators ?
Can She Not Call A Special Grand Jury To Investigate This Case ?
She Needs The Police To Bring Her Cases. Hey Anita, Strap On A Pair, And Go Hold A Special Grand Jury Into This Matter. If There Is Enough Evidence, Indict The Accused, And Put Them On Trail. It's What You Swore To Do.
alvarez is either corrupt, or inept...take your pick......
Hey, Anita!....you don't have the courage, the strength, to investigate this case?....your investigators, your assistant state's attorneys, the power of a grand jury....where are you?.....seems like the average citizen (you represent them, no?) would like to know, not to mention the family of the dead guy (maybe Vanecko has special meaning)...what exactly happened? and, by the way, who in the Police Department signed off on this?....
"I am a public defender in Cook county. The State police are totaly owned by the Daley crime family."
3/25/2011 01:11:00 AM
Where did you dream up this bullshit?
Anonymous said...
I am a public defender in Cook county. The State police are totaly owned by the Daley crime family. This is another joke on the people of the good state of Il.
Nothing but nothing will come of this investigation....take that to the bank!!
WHERE ARE THE FEDS???
3/25/2011 01:11:00 AM
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WHERE ARE THE FEDS???
Like the Feds aren't part of the Daley crime family? Isn't the President from Chicago? Isn't a Daley the Chief of Staff to the POTUS?
Move along, nothing to see.
Not A Cop
Maybe Captain Carl Dobrich of the ISP could investigate
Venecko on behalf of the Cook County States Attorney.
Hmm-Daley was States Attorney. Vanecko is his nephew. Daley slated Alvarez. Umm- wasn't there a Carl Dobrich who worked for the original Mayor Daley.
Cue 'It's A Small World After All.'
The police didnt mess this one up, the states attorney's office did.
OT
Feds run a disaster drill in Iowa were white gun lovers are the bad guys.
http://tinyurl.com/66nenc8
Anonymous said...
If Vanecko was Joe Q. Citizen, he would have already been indicted, tried and sentenced. Any number of charges would have worked. As much as RJ is hated, murder would not have worked without intent. but manslaughter, or "agg batt on the public way" would easily have met the legal threshold for a guilty. but it's silly to keep dreaming that he'll be charged someday. different rules for different people. in that regard, Daley is more british than irish.
Sorry it would have been ruled mutal combatants and no charges filed. Just as one on one homicides
have been for the 15 years with the Cook County Staes Attorney. And as we have all experineced gang bangers from opposing gangs shooting up the street and commiting a Homicide on one thier rivals being deemed mutual combatants and no Hoicide charges being approved by the States Attorneys office.
I can't believe that I actually have the capacity to HATE her more!!! We really need to disengage from the ASA's Office. Scrap Felony Review and have our Department get rid of the ASA's SIGNING OUR SLIPS TO GET FUCKIN PAID! That is pathetic and a disgrace...start a Petition and send it to the New Supe and or Mike Shields!
OT question.
Critical Mass Bike ride crap.
Why doesn't the CPD ENFORCE rules of the road on Bikers like they do Motor vehicle operators?
I have the right to blow a Stop Sign or Stop Light just because I'm on a bicycle?
What a load of shit! I wish the FBI and DOJ would swoop in and take over this whole county. Maybe even the state. Heads will roll!
Nice job Anita. Spineless.
Oh, yeah, a real "outside investigation" here.
Investigation will be by Illinois State Police. "Hiram Grau will serve as state police director. Grau comes from the Cook County state's attorney's office, where he worked as deputy chief of investigations..."
http://www.chicagotribune.
comnews/local/ct-met-quinn
-state-police-20110325,0,
2499620.story
Seiser !
"Hiram Grau will serve as director of the state police. He comes from the Cook County State's Attorney's office, where he worked as deputy chief of investigations. "
Chicago Breaking News...
Oh THIS investigation is going to go REAL WELL...
I got $100 on still "Case Closed"
Thes corrupt individuals have to start being fully investigated, the corrupt ones ALL must go to prison, in all public matters. Carol Marin is on talk radio now, and the whole thing sounds like a complete coverup
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Carol Marin said on WLS / Roe Conn show that when this happened in 2004 NO ONE in the media knew about it until 3 weeks after when a line-up was held at AREA 3.
THEN, someone "dropped a dime" to John Kass and others in the media.
I just have to say:
Yooooooooou're welcome!
vanecko must be going through a shit load of underwear. i bet he sharts every time he picks up a newspaper.hahaha. the piper man is calling, it's calling for you vanecko. just do the gentlemanly thing and get it over with
I am a public defender in Cook county
liar sack of sh-t. if you were who you say you are, why not make a formal complaint.
OT Rahm wants to reduce number of aldercreatures , CPD , CFD and all city employees let's get behind him on this one . Lets also reduce number of police districts to 23
less bosses and housecats , more officers for patrol and money for pay increase next contract
reduce alderman to 20 , that's more than New York city and Los Angelos . CPD more officers hired , means less money in budget for pay raises . Most of us have been working harder , now time for us to demand all the housecats are put back in a beat car
There would be no free up of officers for patrol by closing districts, those areas still need to be patrolled, so officers would be absorbed by surrounding districts and sent right back to the same area anyway; all the bosses would be sent to surrounding districts as well, no savings etc. sorry very flawed logic..
Anonymous said...
Maybe they can help out this department too:
Yorkville police on hunt for 2,500 missing rubber ducks. Thousands of rubber ducks were stolen over the weekend from the Yorkville Citizen Police Academy. They are used for a fundraiser.
So far no tips or clues LOL.
3/25/2011 02:50:00 PM
In a related matter:
In a warehouse on the south side of Chicago, over 83 American Standard (brand) high velocity, water saver flush toilets earmarked for use in new Chicago police stations were reported as...'missing.'
So far, police have nothing to go on.
(hit it)... RIMSHOT!
To the anonymous asshat claiming we don't publish "recall Alvarez" comments:
To date, we can't remember any specific comments demanding a recall. If there were, we'd publish them. Here's a bone for your tiny brain:
If there is a recall mechanism in place for county officials and you're willing to get a group together to create the petitions, collect the petitions, notarize and bind the petitions and submit them, we'll give you front page coverage weekly to support your effort.
How's that dumbass?
Alvarez is a disaster and that has been stated here since she ran for office on a platform of jailing police officers instead of criminals.
So take your bizarro-world fantasy of us having Alvarez connections and stick them where the sun don't shine kid.
And if you're making misogynist statements and blanket generalizations like the last asshole claiming we deleted his crap about Duty Disability cases, well, that gets deleted as a matter of course.
Anita wont do anything because she was given the job after Devine was dumped. And Fitzgerld will not do anything because he has been promised the head FBI Job in Washington. And Brother billy has assured him of that
Anonymous said...
You know, it is just possible that she is trying to do the right thing.
3/25/2011 10:08:00 AM
BWWWAAAAAAA-HAHAHAHAHAhahahaha...hee hee...snort.
You are one funny mofo guy, I bet you have the whole roll call cracking up on a regular basis.
Damn, that's a good one. I can't stop laughing...Alvarez doing the right thing....wow.
*******BREAKING NEWS*********
Anita Alvarez has been intentionally keeping the Vanecko investigation out of the hands of the grand room at 26th & Cal not because of Daley influence or Devine influence.
The Vanecko investigation has been kept out of the grand jury room because a longtime ASA in the grand jury room is very good friends with Vanecko family. Grand jury ASA has been pressing to stay out of matter.
Sun-Times has this information but is not reporting, just yet.
The U.S. Attorney must impanel a grand jury in this matter immediately for obstruction of justice at State's Attorney's Office involving Devine, Alvarez and others.
If Vanecko was Joe Q. Citizen, he would have already been indicted, tried and sentenced. Any number of charges would have worked.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
No one would get convicted on this shit. Conflicting witnesses, the kids own buddies got their stories mixed up. No ID at the lineup.....stories changed years later. I can't believe a copper with any experience would think that this was a good case. The poor dead kid got in over his head, and vanecko got over. Mutual combat. Happens all the time, right or wrong. We can hate daleys family all we want, but that doesn't mean this case holds water.
Time to recall both Alvarez AND
Pat[atohead] Quinn.
OT
"Feds run a disaster drill in Iowa were white gun lovers are the bad guys.
"http://tinyurl.com/66nenc8"
--3/25/2011 09:25:00 PM
Oh no they don't.
Threats kill plans for today's anti-terror exercise
http://www.desmoinesregister.
com/article/20110326/NEWS
10/103260327/
Threats-kill-plans-
today-s-anti-terror
-exercise?odyssey=mod
|mostview
There.
OT--
"Critical Mass Bike ride crap.
"Why doesn't the CPD ENFORCE rules of the road on Bikers like they do Motor vehicle operators?
"I have the right to blow a Stop Sign or Stop Light just because I'm on a bicycle?"
--3/25/2011 10:37:00 PM
Police 'outmanned' by growing gang population
Friday, February 25, 2011
"In this Intelligence Report: "Outmanned." Street gang membership in Chicago and the suburbs is at least twice as big as city and outlying police departments.
"It's due in part to a surge in the Chicago region's gang population related to Mexican cartels taking hold of illegal drug sales.
"There are more gangbangers in metro Chicago than there are residents in Orland Park and Glenview combined, at least 100,000 gang members, according to the latest intelligence from a top federal enforcement agency in Chicago.
"The growing gang population is a problem for outmanned police and an employment resource for the Mexican drug cartels.
"Chicago and suburban police say between 75 and 100 street gangs operate criminal rackets."
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/iteam&id=7981123
Reinvestigate a homicide case that is almost seven years old where the only evidence is oral statements made by witnesses? Now that is going to be a very difficult matter. The oral statements part is what bothers me. It does not appear that they have any independent witnsses, no canvass, interviews of bartenders, doorman, etc. I just do not see this going anywhere at this point.
I would be willing to bet that a good detective has his own file that at this point should be closely guarded...
3/25/2011 11:43:00 AM
Any chance of that happening is non existent after the new LT came in and let's say purged all the old files!
Heard a copper in 16 tac might be facing criminal charges for a dui that should of been. Fly on the wall
3/25/2011 01:58:00 PM
Yes. Filing a false 911 call. Dumb ass. Anita will handle this one herself.
3/25/2011 06:08:00 PM
He probably should hide up at the ski resort for awhile or under it.
Hopefully, if this thing is not resolved with Vanecko being gound guilty of involentary manslaughter or whatever sooner rather then later, then may it follow him for the rest of his life, eventually catching up with him ala the Skakle kid.
Buck Naked
(not a cop)
She always Picks and Chooses who she prosecutes or HOLD GRAND JURIES FOR.
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and this is different than any other prosecutor in the country in what significant way?
I have the right to blow a Stop Sign or Stop Light just because I'm on a bicycle?
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Just what purpose is it going to serve to give one guy in 1000 a citation?
There is no good answer to dealing with this type of situation, but making it worse is for sure not the answer.
It would be like giving citations out to people who stop in the middle of intersections during traffic jams. Not helpful.
Yeah, the poster here who reported this was right. Daley rubbing our noses in it on his way out. What a bastard.
"On Saturday, many of Daley's [crime] family joined in the [St. Patrick's Day Parade]trip down Columbus Drive from Balbo to Monroe, including his wife, Maggie Daley, son Patrick, his brother John, a Cook County board commissioner, and his nephew, Robert Vanecko."
http://www.suntimes.com/
news/metro/4284729-418/
daley-leads-last-st.-patricks
-day-parade-as-mayor
I see Pat "Batters" was back in town too, came in from his home in Russia. Does he have to wear a wig and dark glasses to get through the airports?
I wonder what his nickname is among criminal circles in the Moscow "clubs" and back alleys.
Probably "The Mayor."
The word "shameless" seems so inadequate...
I can t believe that there are so many police officers that do not know what it takes to A: be a 1st degree murder
B What it takes to charge a 1st degree murder
on second thought I do understand ....................................
I joked earlier about the camera being erased, tounge in cheek. But to be serious, I understand how things work, I've even sat in at court in A/3 ct branch and witnessed bar fights get ruled by a judge to "not guilty". So a drunken street fight turns bad, for one of the parties died 12 days later. The case lies on who threw the punch. Remember for an arrest a particular person committed a particular crime. We have parties Id on scene, witness statements, but no evidence, and a bad line up. Even so, they had enough to charge them in 04 with mob action. Now the only charge is second degree murder at best.
Heard a copper in 16 tac might be facing criminal charges for a dui that should of been. Fly on the wall
3/25/2011 01:58:00 PM
Yes. Filing a false 911 call. Dumb ass. Anita will handle this one herself.
3/25/2011 06:08:00 PM
Did this alleged incident happen on Higgins?
Maybe Captain Carl Dobrich of the ISP could investigate
Venecko on behalf of the Cook County States Attorney.
Hmm-Daley was States Attorney. Vanecko is his nephew. Daley slated Alvarez. Umm- wasn't there a Carl Dobrich who worked for the original Mayor Daley.
Cue 'It's A Small World After All.'
3/25/2011 09:08:00 PM
If capt. dobrich of the ISP was to investigate Vanecko, then he(Vanecko) would have nothing to worry about, for the investigation would be fucked up, just like the drew peterson case was. dobrich(no caps because of no respect for the guy) was in charge of the peterson case. It was the first homicide case he ever was involved in and it shows.
He made his rank because his daddy was a deputy supt with CPD, and gainer(no caps also) was the director of the ISP.
The politics never end, and the underlings suffer along with the victim's family.
Thank god he is retired.
Signed, a Seasoned Underling.
It would be like giving citations out to people who stop in the middle of intersections during traffic jams. Not helpful.
Listed under block intersection to create gridlock on your old traffic hard card.
Why enforce any laws at all, Circle A?
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