Thursday, March 24, 2011

Someone Getting Disbanded?

  • Interim Chicago Police Supt. Terry Hillard is chipping away at the legacy of his predecessor — Jody Weis — by changing the department’s command structure and preparing to move cops to the patrol division from specialized units, sources said Wednesday.

    Hillard is considering moving 100 officers from the department’s 260-officer Mobile Strike Force back to the patrol division. He is also looking to move officers from other special citywide units to patrol, sources said.

    That would be a big step toward Mayor-elect Rahm Emanuel’s campaign pledge to put 1,000 beat officers on the street.

Notice no one is saying "hire a thousand" cops. We're of the opinion that the days of 11,500 blue shirts are far behind us and the days of 9,000 are here to stay. All of it means less chances for advancement and "doing more with less" for the duration of everyone's career. A few bits of good news finally confirmed:
  • Sources said one of Hillard’s first priorities as interim superintendent was to return the department to the chain of command that existed before Weis took office in 2008.

    Weis’ chief of staff Michael Masters — a civilian with a law degree from Harvard University — had served as one of the main gatekeepers for Weis’ command staff. Weis didn’t rely as heavily on his two assistant superintendents, James Jackson and Beatrice Cuello.

    Hillard has returned to a system in which the police brass report directly to Cuello, who is in charge of administration, and Jackson, who runs law-enforcement operations.

    Some of Hillard’s moves have the whiff of a purge. Masters left the department last week and Robert Roman, a commander assigned to Weis’ office, was forced to resign Wednesday, sources said. Other Weis loyalists such as Cmdr. Frank Gross have been moved out of the superintendent’s office and placed in districts.

It looks like actual sworn officers are running the department again. But be careful out there - the line keeps getting thinner.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

100 a big step towards 1000? Kind of a stretch, don' t you think?


Either way uncle Terry is off to a better start than numb nuts. Maybe he'll ask for cozzi to be transferred closer to home.

3/24/2011 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a joke, read this from breaking news site....

— Last Memorial Day, Sen. Dick Durbin traveled to a conference at a luxury beach resort on Tunisia's Mediterranean coast.

The Democratic senator and his wife, Loretta, stayed at The Residence Tunis, which is part of the exclusive "Leading Hotels of the World" group and has a spa and Robert Trent Jones II golf course.

The trip lasted a week, when the tab for transportation, lodging and meals for the Durbins climbed to $22,113.

House Democrat Jan Schakowsky took her husband, political consultant Robert Creamer, to the same conference, which examined political Islam and policy challenges for Congress. The costs: $14,953.

3/24/2011 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They have 5 companies in MSF, over 400 people there, it should get cut in half and merged with TRU, which has less than 200. Everyone back to districts, then send the entire GEU back to districts, they are glorified tac teams, who think they are "investigators" lol I love listening to them tell people that they are " in OCD" especially that goofy female Sgt.

3/24/2011 02:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm predicting 247 comments on this topic and at least 136 will have the words, hair gel, in them

3/24/2011 02:14:00 AM  
Anonymous KMA1999 said...

Long story short. Shortshanks hired J Fled who then fucked up the entire Chicago Police Department. There are so many incompetents in command positions that saving the dept. will be a very tough task.

3/24/2011 02:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MSF is gone!!!!!!You can take that to the bank!!!!It was the aliens creation and now it will be disbanded

3/24/2011 02:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

one man's opinion..Dumb move. but he doesnt care he's here for two months. these units have very little union protections cause they are voluntary. you can change their hours, send them anywhere etc. what do you think this cops will produce for you on the watch? Answer: nothing, or very little. maybe reports.

3/24/2011 04:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

100 a big step towards 1000? Kind of a stretch, don' t you think?


Either way uncle Terry is off to a better start than numb nuts. Maybe he'll ask for cozzi to be transferred closer to home.

3/24/2011 12:21:00 AM


Clemency would be totally appropriate. Release the guy. enough is enough. That move would signal the end of the terrible failed experiment of jodypweis.

3/24/2011 04:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I'm predicting 247 comments on this topic and at least 136 will have the words, hair gel, in them

3/24/2011 02:14:00 AM

Here is the definitive post in this thread ! We have a winner .

3/24/2011 05:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

100 a big step towards 1000? Kind of a stretch, don' t you think?


Either way uncle Terry is off to a better start than numb nuts. Maybe he'll ask for cozzi to be transferred closer to home.

3/24/2011 12:21:00 AM

100 is ten percent and a good start

3/24/2011 05:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM

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It'll go just fine this summer, because all of you will be redeployed to those high-crime districts that so badly need quick response. And you can use all that great training to go out there and be the police.
You just won't be in JPWeis' 'pet unit', as he liked to call it.

3/24/2011 05:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a good start Terry. That unit should ne brought down by 1/2 if not totally. Mobile Strike Force, TRU, Gun Teams, etc. All a bunch of BS.

3/24/2011 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gun Teams back to Area D/C effective 31 March!

3/24/2011 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM

Training Unit???? Don't we have a Training Academy?

Intelligence Section??? WTF. We have that, too.

Where the fuck HAVE you been, is indeed the question. Welcome home laddies, back to the beat car.

I think the cost for getting those really cool tattoos removed can be labeled as a uniform expense, so you are covered.

Just your last statement alone, reeks of elitism. It is idiots like you and your attitude, that cause a divide among officers.Trust me kid......we welcome the help back in patrol.If you think that the Department is fucking you, well shit happens. You are still getting paid a good buck.

Would you like an early or late car?

3/24/2011 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM

Are you fucking kidding me?!!? You are not the almighty super coppers that you think you are. Six guys in on an 1811 is not going to curb crime son. And as you go pouting with your tail between your legs, just know that the city survived through much higher crime periods even without your training unit, intelligence unit and without your dry fire sessions and pt time.

3/24/2011 06:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm predicting 247 comments on this topic and at least 136 will have the words, hair gel, in them 3/24/2011 02:14:00 AM

That's one...

3/24/2011 06:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM
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My summer looks pretty good. I'll be on furlough relaxing and drinking beer while you'll be searching for a rock in some hype's shit-crusted anus crack.

Now take yourself to the district and start writing some GOCR's.

It will be difficult, but we'll all try and get by without MSF or TRU around.

3/24/2011 06:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Old (ish) Guy said...

For you kids too young to remember:

First you man your Beat cars and Sector cars(umbrella, rapid response or what ever you call them now). Then, the officers that actually work and know the area have time to actually do some pro-active policing in an area they have a stake in.

Give me one good Beat officer on the Beat over a whole team of hit and run kids anyday. Get some time on under a Superintendent that knows the game and you'll see the difference. You might even learn a few things.

3/24/2011 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So this is what an interim Supt. does. I guess the lord mayor wants everything back the way it was before he goofed things up with the FBI. Maybe he doesn't want the new lord mayor saying bad things about him, looks bad when giving $50,000 speeches. 3 apples on a table, move em to the other side of the table, still 3 apples. Good smoke & Mirrors job Old Terry, you still take orders well.

3/24/2011 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM

Someone sounds very scared to work a beat car? What do you mean "our personnel"? Who are you to complain? Put your big girl panties on and work a beat car.

3/24/2011 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

they are glorified tac teams, who think they are "investigators" lol I love listening to them tell people that they are " in OCD" especially that goofy female Sgt.

3/24/2011 02:06:00 AM

or the goofy tattoo man from a/1 who says they are "one notch below gang intelligence" and the others who bought the raid jackets and walk around like their sh*t dont stink. o and you gotta throw in the following line on your arrest report to make sure your arrest stands out from the peons' arrests "this is gang enforcement blah blah blah by beat blah blah of the organized blah blah"

3/24/2011 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been?........



Get back to work and answer some calls!

3/24/2011 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gun teams are done

3/24/2011 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

C company in MSF gone....Everyone else put on four and two's to piss off everyone to return to districts

3/24/2011 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should listen to yourselves all whine take 02:06:00 AM for example, in theory I know it's probably actually a dozen or two that do all the bitching. But it's continuos bitching on each thread. Disband MSF, cut TRU, take 150 from MSF and TRU and send them back to the districts, put GEU back in the districts, whine whine whine. Everyone of these units is in districts every single day and night, the only difference is they're not answering calls. Having more coppers "answering calls" isn't gonna do anything. "What about patrol" whine whine whine, the bottom line is the city needs to hire more police. Taking officers from units and having them merely work beat cars and answer calls isn't going to do a damn thing.

3/24/2011 08:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM

listen 2 year wonder...we need you on the beat answering calls and taking reports to alleviate the backlog and help man a car so coppers wont be riding 99. hopefully you'll be assigned to the "highest crime areas" so you can teach us your valuable skills that you acquired while at msf. training section, intelligence section, pt, dry fire sessions, WTF? overall a unit like msf/tru is needed but not at the current numbers. the majority of you would provide more value working beats as opposed to riding four deep on a car and making a tstop with eight deep. with the right bosses and coworkers, the watch is not a bad place to be.

3/24/2011 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's make sure that Masters doesn't try to continue paying into our pension fund ala lubermaam.

3/24/2011 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey MSF super cop, you're in the same districts just about every day anyway. Now you'll be in the exact same hot spots only under a different command structure. That's how! And that's how it should have been all along.

3/24/2011 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous rosco said...

Heard the carbine program is going to be pulled. Improper use in the field a probable reason.

3/24/2011 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Promises made NO Promises kept! Uh Hair gell guys, thanks Earnie for nothing. Remember To pay peter JFled stole from paul. Those units were just another tool to divide this department from the new and old as they put it. When a boss says I'll take 5 young guys over 2 old guys he is not to be trusted because he came where you are now and once promoted he forgot where he came from, he will never have respect or trust of beat cops.

3/24/2011 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

one man's opinion..Dumb move. but he doesnt care he's here for two months. these units have very little union protections cause they are voluntary. you can change their hours, send them anywhere etc. what do you think this cops will produce for you on the watch? Answer: nothing, or very little. maybe reports.

3/24/2011 04:25:00 AM

You don't produce anything now, at least you will be able to be assigned radio jobs to help out a district, it's up to you what you do then and will have to answer to your choice of actions eventually. Don't be salty, you had a good run and it wasn't going to last the rest of your career.

3/24/2011 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

let's do more with less and keep our job with pay raises
more officers means less money for our next contract
clean out the front offices , units, details at headquarters , police academy and homan square
police academy should be all civilian instructors

3/24/2011 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Surprised this rumor is just getting out. The real word is that 100 are getting dumped from TRU, MSF, and Gang Enforcement. The guys from the guns teams who got assigned to Gang Investigations are getting/have been dumped and Narcotics will be trimmed down to 200 officers. The districts should be getting anywhere from 400 to 500 warm and fuzzy faces.

3/24/2011 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's hoping that the Interim recognizes another Weis loyalist, stevie georgas, and shows stevie the door.

3/24/2011 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

(OT) Another great copper "Real police" passed Godspeed Ralph Wiskur!


http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/DignityMemorial/guestbook.aspx?n=ralph-wiskur&pid=149566180&eid=viewgb

3/24/2011 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This whole department is screwed. Do you think this ass Terry is doing the right thing? He's the JFed of a different color.... He's no better. The mayor allowed him to come in and make it worse. A whole lot of back stabbing going on..... Makes me sick.....Same old shit going on, just different players....... What a disgrace this department has turned into.... Everyone making a power play.....Unreal!!!!

3/24/2011 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM
Wow!Your angry kid! Did Mommy wash behind your ears? STFU no more 4 hour lunches and calling for a beat car because "We don't do paper"! Welcome back, I will buy you a nice freeze pop!

3/24/2011 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The comments by those few who say that because they are back in the districts they will produce nothing for the watch are very bad and look bad to people outside the department. These are very good jobs ( if not to you to outsiders). If you do not do a reasonable job then you should lose your job. Maybe the department, someday, if and when they get politics out of this department, figure out a way to either get the slackers to do something or to get rid of them.

3/24/2011 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Either way uncle Terry is off to a better start than numb nuts. Maybe he'll ask for cozzi to be transferred closer to home.

No way, he will let Coozi sit. He was not happy when Officers were a little to aggresive in stopping west siders after a few Police Officers were shot on the west side. If you remember he suspended a Detective.

3/24/2011 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Supt Hillard keep up the good work!
Keep dumping all that shit that
J-Fled left behind.

3/24/2011 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!



HA!
More stupidity by more stupid people who happen to own a piece of paper with fancy writting on it!
Screw you Chicago, Im going to the way my father and grandfather worked this job.

3/24/2011 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like them or not having them in shit areas keeps me from being sent there. Hair gels or not they work their ass off. I'm not locking up dude to get sued, fuck that! Back on the watch we don't need a bunch of pissed off go getters who aren't going to do a fucking thing because they feel they were done wrong. The solution is hire more people! Some on needs to file a foia request and oust our true numbers. Those goofs took a spot in a unit with limited contractual rights they can get move to some where different every night and have their start time changed to what ever. Hey they want that kind of a deal let them have it. Besides 100 p.o's boils down to only five a district and five divided by three still adds up to not enough fucking man power!!!

3/24/2011 08:59:00 AM  
Blogger staysafe said...

Look, I'm for turning the department back over to the sworn and all, but if Hillard is just marking time, why allow him to appoint and change, when a new guy may be in here in 3-6 months and do it all over again?
It just doesn't make sense.

3/24/2011 09:02:00 AM  
Blogger Michael said...

100 guys doesn't even scratch the surface---- streamwood copper guilty of aggravated battery and official misconduct--- opted for bench trial instead of jury--- judge found him guilty citing his own squad car video of incident as overwhelming proof that he committed these crimes--- remember, those in car cameras are their for your safety...

3/24/2011 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT - Mayor in China (again) to promote tourism/business in Chicago. He has a little more than a month left as mayor. Exactly what business or contracts would he have the authority to procure? The City is broke, city workers are forced to take 24 unpaid furlough days, and yet taxpayer money is spent on his China trip??? It is such a blatant arrogant misuse of our tax dollars. Yet the Chicago media just finds him adorable.

3/24/2011 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm all for shoring up the beat cars, but this isn't the right way to do it. yes, there should be one unit, call it TRU call it MSF, whatever. should the total number of bodies be less than they are now, perhaps. Lets say they cut 100bodies from MSF, reasonable enough, but think of the allocation. In theory, 4 per district. 1.33 per watch. that will amount to 1 more person getting the day off in the district, each day. Thats it. Not to mention, I don't see that 100 being motivated to do anything. They might not do much now, but at least they are out in the bad areas, acting as a deterent, if nothing else.

You have to have a mobile field force that you can reallocate at a moments notice. You can't necessarily move rapids or sector cars as easy as you would a unit like MSF or TRU. All I'm saying is, the effects a move like this might have, may be detrimental to any plan(s) that might be on the table.

3/24/2011 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You took our Training Unit. ..... We'll see how it goes for you this summer......"

signed,
someone who doesn't want to work a beat car.
quit your whinin',
suck it up and drive on soldier,
be happy you still have a job

3/24/2011 09:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leo from GEU blew alot of smoke up these guys asses. They realized people were leaving and not going to the areas. They had meetings that painted a picture of how this new unit was going to operate so they could convince officers to stay on. I was in Gangs and Tact along time ago. No matter what they say it has always been about bodies in the basement. I cant speak for all of them but I know guys and gals in GEU alot of them want to go back to the districts.

3/24/2011 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a rumor but, I heard buzz of 2 more sgt classes of 100 each and the list will come down.

3/24/2011 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

To the above poster, I trust you will still be patrolling a high crime area after you are cut from MSF. So its a win win for you.

3/24/2011 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

100 a big step towards 1000? Kind of a stretch, don' t you think?


Either way uncle Terry is off to a better start than numb nuts. Maybe he'll ask for cozzi to be transferred closer to home.

3/24/2011 12:21:00 AM


Clemency would be totally appropriate. Release the guy. enough is enough. That move would signal the end of the terrible failed experiment of jodypweis.

3/24/2011 04:54:00 AM

Maybe Hillard will break Cozzi out and they'll flee together to Tunisia.

3/24/2011 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My above snark aside, I think we need a citywide unit to address problems that crop up. But to have SO many redundant units reflects poor management in light of the staffing issues.Maybe merge 250 cops from both, send the rest back to patrol and there could then be some more rapids manned in the districts

3/24/2011 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.
nothing last forever kid....units come and go...they are created for bosses, and when a new regime change comes...they usually get reshaped or disbanded...so enjoy the time you had there..and start making your phone call...

3/24/2011 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh god!!!! Please tell me that comment was a joke, the one about taking our PT away and our intelligence section and our dry fire sessions. That's why everyone thinks MSF and TRU are a bunch of clowns because of comments like this. Who do you think you are dude? You make it seem like MSF is keeping this department together. What an idiot, you get dumped you get dumped, now you can go save city from a beat car. You're a Fu€|<in stroke dude!!!!

3/24/2011 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that or numbers now, is the new norm.

3/24/2011 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really hope that po on days in 011 realizes how much she fucked up by what she did yesterday to a trooper. I hope that she now realizes no one is going to back her up or defend her. She fucked up and I hope that the state troopers od blame all of us good coppers for her fuck up. I don't blame them if they never give us a break after what she did to one of their own, just understand that she is one rotton fucked up apple in the bunch and the rest of us still respect and enjoy working with the troopers.

3/24/2011 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the 019 dist Copper who wrote the off duty cop a DUI. Unbelieavable

3/23/2011 10:54:00 PM

this is what's wrong with the dept we dont have each others back. Bosses have no balls. Somone should have stepped in. What a joke!

3/24/2011 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone thinks that Rahm's priority is police, but it's not. It's fire.

Rahm will use the budget crunch to end 24 on 48 off. Fire will be on 12 hour shifts in 2012.

They believe there will be boatloads of retirements that can be easily filled by recruits. The change will also put Rahm on the national stage as a brilliant local pol saving tax payers big money.

The thinking being that once Chicago makes the change, all fire depts around the country will change.

3/24/2011 09:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

moving 100 bodies form on unit and putting them in a district dosent put more bodies on the streen, it just makes them go to roll call at a different place.....smoke and mirrors

3/24/2011 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM


amen brother, they dump the hardest working officers from this unit they wont get so much as a parking ticket out of me

3/24/2011 10:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They have 5 companies in MSF, over 400 people there, it should get cut in half and merged with TRU, which has less than 200. Everyone back to districts, then send the entire GEU back to districts, they are glorified tac teams, who think they are "investigators" lol I love listening to them tell people that they are " in OCD" especially that goofy female Sgt.

Who are you kidding? 400 in MSF is a joke it's closer to 270. Once summer rolls around you are going to need a unit that you can move around from day to day. Say what you want about the unit and the people. There has always been a group like this in the CPD that gets deployed around the city. MSF brings in fairly good numbers and most district commanders agree with that.

3/24/2011 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another smoke and mirrors type move. These units will be depleted or disbanded all together so that the new SUPE can create his own "elite" unit and take all the credit for it.

3/24/2011 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We'll see how it goes for you this summer."


There it is! "You" vs. "Me," and it's all about "me," isn't?


There is no "you" or "me." There is only "us" and "we," if you're wearing a blue shirt, that is.

Giving the ghettos of this God-forsaken city extra police at the expense of what's left of the decent parts was a bad idea from the beginning.

They don't want us there.

3/24/2011 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope these teams do get disbanded. Instead of search warrants, quality narcotic arrests, follow ups on cases the department will get one mover and 5 parkers daily...goodnight everyone

3/24/2011 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys may eventually wish to return to the good old days when Weis was in charge.

This has the smell of an old fashioned purge going on prior to the iron fist of the Rahmster taking over.

If you thought it was bad, just wait and see how bad it can really get. The bottom line is that Rahm will put people in place who will be responsible to see that what he wants is what goes on. Not much difference than with Daley, except Daley has a veneer of decency that Rahm could care less about.

Expect some early pain while you learn how to knuckle under and do what is expected of you. Not much different than with Daley. Except Rahm is much worse.

Do as you are told and protect your chance of ever retiring.

3/24/2011 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How? You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you

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All I can say is HAHAHAHA..........not so special now, are we?

3/24/2011 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys in MSF show your lack of police skills by your comments, "We are put in the highest crime areas...lets see how your summer goes..."

You work in a district, you know the district, the players,the gang routes of escape,border lines,store owners,bustouts,whores,dope spots,crackheads(who talk),probable retaliation spots...basically be a cop.

You think that saturating an area, "heating it up" and leaving after some pre-ordained time line, than justifying your existence by the lack of violent crime while there is just pure naivety.

It used to be done on a district level,by each watch. Sgt and a few cars would hit a corner,block,whatever and administer city policy with extreme prejudice.

Than be there day after day reminding the assholes who runs this city. Know their names,call them out by first name,know the cars. But now it takes a "special" unit to do this.

For those who think that the officers who are dumped from these made up thrown together units that required the MINIMUM of time and experience, that these officers will not perform their sworn duties...should call them out immediately.

Why is it that prior to becoming the police and while in the academy, these people couldnt wait to put on the uniform,hop into a blue n white and be the police??

But after 2-5 years they need something else??? Burned out??? Time for a change??? Sick of handling domestics??

Police work is a CALLING

If you do not feel good about your choice, if your only desire is glory, if you dont ever find joy from helping some unfortunate human being(and not having to tell the entire watch bout it)if all you need is adrenaline rushes...than I highly recommend you choose a different profession

3/24/2011 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous HATER said...

WOW UNCLE TERRY IS A REFORMER!

IF WE DONT NEED AN EXEMPT SPOT GET RID OF IT!

AND NO TERRY ISNT HIRING ANYONE.

1000 OFFICERS?
LET ME GUESS SUMMERMOBILE GOING TO COUNT.

I SEE A FUTURE WHERE DETECTIVES DONT COME OUT TO CRIME SCENES AN EVIDENCE TECHS DONT COLLECT ANYTHING ANYMORE.

A NEW UNITE WILL BE CREATED CALLED SOS THAT WILL ROAM THE CITY PUTTING BANDAGES ON OLD CRIME SCENES.

3/24/2011 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 04:17 Poster; Yea where the fuck have you been.....I want you answering domestics all night, I want you writing permit parkers, I want you doing paper on burglaries, I want you doing traffic stops, I want you sitting in a hospital room on a prisoner, I want you answering shots fired calls, gang disturbances, I want you answering 3 car accidents, doing 501's.

I truly don't give a fuck where you have been, you may find this hard to believe but those in blue do need some help, it is getting tiring and summer is not even here.

3/24/2011 10:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

assign 6 man tact teams
frees up 4 men for beat car
1 secretary per district
no watch or tact secretary
check out all the house cats at mass transit , traffic , msf and tru , hillard would be shocked
area deputy has a sgt and about 6 po's , that's 6 1 man beat cars on second watch

3/24/2011 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There isn't 400 police officers assigned to MSF. On 5th watch, there is 238.

3/24/2011 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Georgeass relax with the TRU Bullshit. MSF has only 265 officers. If anything...disbanded them all.

3/24/2011 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

100 is not enough do the math it's 4 per distict, or 1 person per watch (maybe 2 on days). What about Sgt's, no need to keep all of them. He should get rid of either MSF or Tru. Here's an idea look at the overtime that these Units have earned in the last two years verse the number of arrests. By the way gald Hillard is clearing out the dead weight, (two White males) and only moved Gross but where is Penny, Female BLACK she was a Commander until 16 March 2011 per Personnel order but where is she now. Did IAD get a new number on her for her Child Abuse case? A PO would have been stripped and in call back, how many bites at the apple does she get.Just asking.

3/24/2011 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dude, lighten up, it says Chicago Police, not MSF Police. Now, get back to "GTL."

3/24/2011 11:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

one man's opinion..Dumb move. but he doesnt care he's here for two months. these units have very little union protections cause they are voluntary. you can change their hours, send them anywhere etc. what do you think this cops will produce for you on the watch? Answer: nothing, or very little. maybe reports.

EXACTLY, you volunteered, now fuc&^ng deal with it!!!!

3/24/2011 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Putting 100 people back in the districts will result in about 1 person per district, per watch. I guarantee that the busy districts will miss us if we vanish. If you're from a slow district and bitching about manpower, you can have my spot in a second. Id love a cushy spot that allows me to do jack shit.

3/24/2011 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM




why, yes, yes we will.




Chalkie

3/24/2011 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not sure if there is enough room in the districts for MSF egos. And to those not in the know, the department is putting together a Super Bid for you guys. And there isn't a northside district on the list. So, you still will be in the ghetto patroling the streets but assigned to 003,005,006,007. GEU is being considered sent back to districts on watches.

3/24/2011 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would be a stupid move. At least while they are there they are required to do activity. Once on the watch they aren't going to be ding shit out of spite.

3/24/2011 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH MY GOD!! The sky is falling! According to 04:17am...this summer the city is going to melt down w/o MSF on the streets. Oh my God, what shall we do?
Wait, I have an idea, how about what the regular beat guys ( the true backbone of the Department ) does every day...the dirty, stinkin, rotten, unappreciated job the do EVERY day.

3/24/2011 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

35th st mole
I told you!!!!!!!!

3/24/2011 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats great but what about the house-mouses still hiding out in the front offices in the districts?! THROW'EM OUT!!!!

3/24/2011 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM

Fuck off dude. Go man a beat car.

Seriously, the reason why I hate MSF is why do they get PT sessions and Dry Fire session? What makes them better than patrol? Just fuck off. Disband MSF.

3/24/2011 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no fan of Hillard, but he's moving in the right direction; now it's up to the next guy to keep chopping, get rid of a lot of the exempts, re-organize and streamline....

3/24/2011 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop with the threats, anonymous 4:17pm. I understand that wearing this blue uniform is beneath you and that mami and papi had higher aspirations for you in the department, but we need help out here! The stacked jobs, the down cars, etc. Stop whining, put the uniform on, go to rollcall, pick up your radio and keys, turn your radio and pdt on and go answer the calls for service. You should feel a sense of pride working in PATROL, and feel bless that we will accept you in our ranks. Maybe now you can really work for those awards and get the satisfaction of earning them as an individual, not on the backs of a few on your team.God bless the CPD and CFD.

3/24/2011 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why dump Bob Roman, he was always a good guy. was it really necessary to get rid of him?

3/24/2011 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

.....these units have very little union protections cause they are voluntary.....

And these Volunteers are too young to appreciate what protections they loose that were so hard to get over 30 years!

They deserve whatever they Volunteer for!

3/24/2011 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares? They didnt make a diference anyway.

3/24/2011 01:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can't send these elite, talented, hardened veterans back to the watch! The city will fall to pieces! Mark my words!

3/24/2011 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just made it to the MSF about several months ago when they were aggressively hiring. I am an aggressive officer who used to work in 025 and now they will send me off to probably 007, 011, 004, 003 or 006 (all south side districts where no one wants to bid in). This is very unfair to us hard working officers. Why does this department fuck with hard working aggressive officers? Like I said, this is fucking unfair.

3/24/2011 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like MT made the right move going to TRU afterall. Damn, I always knew he was a clout heavy hack! That kid is definitely going places.

-MSF 'A'

3/24/2011 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a good idea.

3/24/2011 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

one man's opinion..Dumb move. but he doesnt care he's here for two months. these units have very little union protections cause they are voluntary. you can change their hours, send them anywhere etc. what do you think this cops will produce for you on the watch? Answer: nothing, or very little. maybe reports.

3/24/2011 04:25:00 AM

Sorry brother, but for some people, no matter how much you fuck with them, these hair gels will continue to work hard and be aggressive. It's in their nature. Case in point, a coworker got fucked over and he continued to be an aggressive officer, make a lot of arrests, come with a lot of good numbers. Some people will never learn.

3/24/2011 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This won't help clear the rap much. MSF is supposed to be there to help clear the rap. If they aren't getting jobs, maybe OEMC should give them some.

3/24/2011 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Westside Outside "Do Something" said...

Anonymous said...
Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? (At Dunkin Donuts? Working out? Training?)How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed (hanging out is included in the definition of the MSF "deployed" word) to the highest crime areas(25% of your night in lowest crime areas eating lunch, ex. Portillo's in Summit), and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How? (They will all have to be retreaded, taught how to do that job again).

You took our Training Unit(insert tears). You took our Intelligence Section(Oh please). You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions(waaaaaaaaaaah!!!). Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer. This MSF guy is gonna cry.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM


Listen to this guy/gal.....

Oh yeah, please don't take your 8 man "stand in the hallway teams" away from us! We (District Officers) won't know what to do with all the "soon to be" free computers you guys tie up "face booking"....

The Districts wont miss the MSF teams and all about 3-4 hours a night you show your faces. We see MSF on the street between the hours of 2100-0100 hrs, after that find a DD or Station.... Most are all there standing around. I'm sure the City will save money without having to pay OT to 8 guys and their Sgt for a late nickel bag arrest.

A city-wide Unit is needed, but the way its run now needs to be changed. Only the seasoned, knowledgable, self motivated Officers should be there. The rest can go screw up tow reports and such at a District level till they learn the job...

Send their asses back. We could use REAL help on the street. Answer some calls, just do something!

PS Say what you want, but unless your living under a rock, you know everything I have said is the truth..... and I was being nice.

3/24/2011 01:46:00 PM  
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3/24/2011 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a joke, read this from breaking news site....

— Last Memorial Day, Sen. Dick Durbin traveled to a conference at a luxury beach resort on Tunisia's Mediterranean coast.

The Democratic senator and his wife, Loretta, stayed at The Residence Tunis, which is part of the exclusive "Leading Hotels of the World" group and has a spa and Robert Trent Jones II golf course.

The trip lasted a week, when the tab for transportation, lodging and meals for the Durbins climbed to $22,113.

House Democrat Jan Schakowsky took her husband, political consultant Robert Creamer, to the same conference, which examined political Islam and policy challenges for Congress. The costs: $14,953.

3/24/2011 01:47:00 AM


I could spend two weeks in Vegas for 1/10th of that and have a blast, probably be more productive too.

3/24/2011 01:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?
---------------------
um, BEAT cops. You know, the guys that respond to calls for service? The guys that actually PATROL... Sorry kiddo, but riding around writing anovs and parkers while pretending to be 'ocd' or whatever is a luxury we don't have right now. The sooner you get your spoiled butt back on the BEAT, the sooner my job is safer. While I can understand being upset that you are being moved, EVERYONE knew that this nonsense couldn't last...Thank God there is some sense at the helm right now...it's a start...

3/24/2011 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All that is going to happen is a bunch of guys are gonna get pissed off and do nothing for a while. Hilliard does not have the authority to hire more police officers but he can move guys around to fill the gaps, essentially robbing Peter to pay Paul. It could happen to anyone of us.

3/24/2011 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM
Troop strength? get the fuck outa here. You are in the CPD not the US Army. PT and dry fire? Sorry dude but on a watch no one gives you time to do either of those. Highest crime areas? Some of us in districts have worked high crime areas our whole careers and have done so quite capably. You are much less special than you think you are.

3/24/2011 01:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is MSF picking who stays and who goes? Are they going by time or are they going to trim dead weight?

3/24/2011 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

take a look at the Academy Pos there for over 7yrs

3/24/2011 01:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is bullshit!! Anyone on any unit will tell you that you had to do alot of work in the districts to make a move and when you get there you have become a hunter, now they want you to go back and do the same shit in a beat car, all that work for nothing. Hell you can have 300+ arrests in a year and it doesnt matter when they want to put you out to dry they will. I can promise you this when and if we do get disbanded I will not do shit! We go out every night to all the fucken hell holes and fuck with everybody that the districts dont have the opportunity to, we help in every district wherever possible. I am sure that there are a few assholes that piss off some beat cars but hell they were the same way in there fucken districts. This is all bullshit! And how the hell is a 67 year old gonna run the city when forced retirement is 63 fuck them, and I am going to be a fucken 1sta nd 16th police officer.

3/24/2011 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can you add 1000 ppl on the street without hiring them? They are already there. Dump the ppl in these weak ass abandoned building units and licensing bs. How can you put ppl that are already on the streets back on the streets and say you have added police?

3/24/2011 02:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we are going back to the chain of command days, then get rid of one of the 1st deputy positions.

The pecking order should be:
1.) GOD
2.) SUPT.
3.) 1st Deputy (only one)
4.) Then the 4 Deputy Supt.

3/24/2011 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a no brainer. Patrol has been stripped to the bone. Patrol is feeling the effects of low manpower far more than most other parts of the department. These units JFRAUD created sapped Patrol of manpower that was never replaced.
I applaud the move. Since Patrol is widely considered the backbone of the department this move will help get it off life support.
Besides these moves they ought to also make sure any of JFRAUD's minions also go back to Patrol preferably to 1 st watch in a south side district.

3/24/2011 02:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
They have 5 companies in MSF, over 400 people there, it should get cut in half and merged with TRU, which has less than 200. Everyone back to districts, then send the entire GEU back to districts, they are glorified tac teams, who think they are "investigators" lol I love listening to them tell people that they are " in OCD" especially that goofy female Sgt.

3/24/2011 02:06:00 AM

They are a complete waste! Pride themselves on contact cards only. That Sgt. has no business doing anything in CD.

3/24/2011 02:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My uncle Leo just told me that GEU isn't going anywhere and neither is he.

3/24/2011 02:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM

It's real simple, we need more bodies on the watches, we are getting killed. We need more cars going to calls for service. MSF and TRU are down all night on arrests that do nothing to help lighten the load. They are just eating and getting a quick CB during the tours.

3/24/2011 02:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM

so.....tell that to the citizen who calls for police service, sees a gang fight, hears shots fired, reports a burglary or robbery in progress, is involved in an accident, and then waits.....an hour, maybe two hours, for the police to respond, because they already have five calls stacked to them, and there are 30 or 40 calls waiting.....so much for intelligence, pt, and dry fire...

3/24/2011 03:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cry me a river
no more 2 hour lunches for msf and tru officers assigned back to district patrol
be on time and at check off in uniform brylcreme kids

3/24/2011 03:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see all these guys at Homan Sq. They carry so much gear you'd think they were headed for Iraq. It is clear that MANY of them are ex-military, miss it, and now are under the delusion that they are STILL in the military.

While I applaud and appreciate their service to our country, I wish they would understand we don't need them carrying rucksacks full of crap better suited for war than the streets of Chicago.

YOU ARE NOT IN THE MILITARY ANYMORE! GET OVER IT! PUT YOUR NEW BLUE UNIFORM ON AND GO BE THE POLICE, ON THE STREET, FROM A DISTRICT.

Good Lord.

3/24/2011 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

dry fire sessions??? are you kidding me? give me a break with your dry fire and pt and intellegence crap. What does msf need intel for? You do what everyone else does... two or three bag 1811 and the occasional 2024/2027. You guys are not going out solving patterns or getting the big fish. Nobody anymore is going out getting the big stuff. the boys back in sos went and got the criminals off the street...which we now find may have been done in a less than honest way but they actually went out and got really bad guys and thugs off the street and came in with good cases.. now everyone is 1811 and dopw. i dont blame you in this enviorment but dont pretend you are the elite. I know many of coppers in msf and tru. some are nice guys but have no buisness pretending to be "elite".. just because you have 3,4 or 5 years on and like to jump out on everything that moves does not make you a great copper. Sure, you will find the weed the occasional rock or blow and maybe even a gun here or there but that is not make a copper a good cop. to see what a good cop is look back to how shit got done in the 70s, 80s and early 90s.. then you will understand how stuff got done and what a copper was. dry fire and pt time...ahahahahaha what a joke some of you people are

3/24/2011 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes!!! I was getting tired of these jags sitting in lock up 1 doing the rest while his 5 other buddies are watching youtube. By the way, those suspenders are not F@cking cool. Now grab a beat tag and join the front lines we have been holding down the line way too long.

3/24/2011 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mobile Strike Force, TRU, Gun Teams, etc. All a bunch of BS.

Gangs North,South,and West.

That's all ya need.

Revolver Police (Former Gangs South)

3/24/2011 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, all you Northsiders should read the posts on Shaved about that guy Garrido who's running for alderman. WTF?

3/24/2011 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is all about power and what you do with it. Peterson and Brown used to have it and are now down since Hillard is around and Jackson is running things.

There are many more changes coming....

3/24/2011 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should listen to yourselves all whine take 02:06:00 AM for example, in theory I know it's probably actually a dozen or two that do all the bitching. But it's continuos bitching on each thread. Disband MSF, cut TRU, take 150 from MSF and TRU and send them back to the districts, put GEU back in the districts, whine whine whine. Everyone of these units is in districts every single day and night, the only difference is they're not answering calls. Having more coppers "answering calls" isn't gonna do anything. "What about patrol" whine whine whine, the bottom line is the city needs to hire more police. Taking officers from units and having them merely work beat cars and answer calls isn't going to do a damn thing.

3/24/2011 08:06:00 AM


I agree with this poster. I've been on since '86 and the things coppers bitch about haven't changed one bit. It's okay though, it's good to let off steam.

Back then people bitched about who got promoted, the desk dollies, the top-heavy command, the horseshit units, the dogs, etc. Same things people bitch about today. But it should make you realize, all the bitching in the world isn't going to change a thing. 25 years of experience witnessing it.

I'm a det., and I always look back fondly on my days in patrol. We had fun back then because we made it. We backed each other up, we drank together and had watch parties. In all the different places I've been, I've never, ever felt the commaraderie that used to exist in patrol.

Go to work, have fun with your partner, laugh at the idiocy of the department and the antics of the animals. Enjoy the circus peanuts. Life is too short.

Most of all, protect each other and go home safe every night.

3/24/2011 03:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM

Hahahaha! This is a perfect example of todays new cops who came on CPD, they actually believe they were entitled to those luxuries. They were to stupid to know that those luxuries were their bossing taking care of them. My question is this, do they have enough FTO's to retrains these FNG's? Most didn't even know the job before they left for MSF. Then again, they know it all, they are better than us because they were in msf! Signed, Insane Fish

3/24/2011 03:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I'm predicting 247 comments on this topic and at least 136 will have the words, hair gel, in them
_____________________________________

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

3/24/2011 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

Yeah RIGHT!
I do believe Bourbon St. will take a cut in its "On-Duty" CPD patrons taking their two hour lunches!

3/24/2011 03:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't worry we will still have the ascotts, tats and awesome theme music as fond memories....msf forever...hold me

3/24/2011 03:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...And does anyone think that it will be a relief to have all these disbanded officers in patrol? Do you really think they are going to be motivated to do anything after getting bent over by Uncle Terry. I will join all the other dogs on this Dep't who stay down on a noise disturbance for an hour and use phrases like "hair gel" and "only the 1st and the 16th." I have an idea, how about putting all the PO's from callback back on the streets in addition to a complete overhaul of OEC and what calls police will actually respond to. You could alleviate the backlogs in the south and west side by doing this.

3/24/2011 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Everyone thinks that Rahm's priority is police, but it's not. It's fire.

Rahm will use the budget crunch to end 24 on 48 off. Fire will be on 12 hour shifts in 2012.

They believe there will be boatloads of retirements that can be easily filled by recruits. The change will also put Rahm on the national stage as a brilliant local pol saving tax payers big money.

The thinking being that once Chicago makes the change, all fire depts around the country will change.

3/24/2011 09:59:00 AM

Completely false post. If the city where to switch CFD to 12 hours days the cities OT for CFD will sky rocket.

Simple math. You will go from one shift change per day to two.

It's not like you can hold a fire or ambulance call for the incoming shift like the CPD can due with reports. If it's 15 minutes before shift change and a call comes in they need to respond, it will not be held. Now you have 5 guys, if not more depending on how many engs./trucks gat a call out on OT until them come back.

12 hours shifts will equal greater OT for the city

3/24/2011 03:49:00 PM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

"...Put us back on the street?..."

The minute you become the police who can pick and choose the type of jobs you accept, the battle is lost. Now you will have to do everything the rest of us have to do and we won't be denied time due.

3/24/2011 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the guy posting about the 019 DUI of an off duty. You weren't even there, so shut your mouth. Maybe the drunk off duty should have kept his mouth shut and not jumped out of the car announcing he was an off-duty. Maybe she should of taken a cab. Maybe he should of thought about possible putting another copper in this awkward position before he got behind the wheel.

The copper that got stuck with this call is a stand up guy who would go out of his way to back up another cop. He was stuck and had no choice.

3/24/2011 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I actually work in MSF, and there always be msf in the cpd if its called msf sos sog gangs north gangs south or the flying squad. CPD will always need officers to be moved around as needed. Is there too many cops in MSF? Yes are there goofs that work there? Yes just like in any district or unit. We understand patrol needs help and if sent back we will be glad to help. There is too much cop haters on this blog........Be safe and back each other up what ever happens ihappens as long as we still have jobs is all that really counts......Be safe

3/24/2011 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CUT BOSSES ALSO. If we have less people, why do we need more bosses? Overload Units that should be cut.
MSF
MASS TRANSIT
MARINE UNIT
MOUNTED UNIT
H.Q.
MEDIA AFFAIRS
R&D
PERSONNEL
D UNIT OFFICE PERSONNEL
CAPS

3/24/2011 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see all these guys at Homan Sq. They carry so much gear you'd think they were headed for Iraq. It is clear that MANY of them are ex-military, miss it, and now are under the delusion that they are STILL in the military.

While I applaud and appreciate their service to our country, I wish they would understand we don't need them carrying rucksacks full of crap better suited for war than the streets of Chicago.

YOU ARE NOT IN THE MILITARY ANYMORE! GET OVER IT! PUT YOUR NEW BLUE UNIFORM ON AND GO BE THE POLICE, ON THE STREET, FROM A DISTRICT.
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We carry alot of gear so we are prepared for the worst If sent back most will still carry the same gear and we might save your life one day with our medical kits or rifles or extra ammo

3/24/2011 04:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

roman is as big of a tool as his goofy son on the mayors detail.

3/24/2011 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey interim sup Hillard:

What happens to the hard-hitting crystal ball unit? Please send them all packing back to the streets, too.

3/24/2011 04:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

3/24/2011 04:17:00 AM


Look dumbshit. You are a PATROLMAN. "Our this, our that". What an arrogant little prick you are. I hope you end up in 003 on midnights...you can still be aggressive there, so quityerbitchin.

Are you in a different police department than the rest of us? Did you join the Chicago Police Dept. or MSF? It's nitwits like you that make the rest of us hate you nutsacks.

3/24/2011 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

one man's opinion..Dumb move. but he doesnt care he's here for two months. these units have very little union protections cause they are voluntary. you can change their hours, send them anywhere etc. what do you think this cops will produce for you on the watch? Answer: nothing, or very little. maybe reports.
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Sound like you might lose your doing nothing spot.LOL

3/24/2011 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Look, I'm for turning the department back over to the sworn and all, but if Hillard is just marking time, why allow him to appoint and change, when a new guy may be in here in 3-6 months and do it all over again?
It just doesn't make sense."

Rhambo thinks the department is top heavy. He’s going to let the interim do the dirty work and start dumping quite a few un-needed clouted exempts. If there is any fall back it won’t be on Rhambo or on his newly appointed superintendent. Changes should be coming as soon as tomorrow, Friday March 25th.

3/24/2011 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Why dump Bob Roman, he was always a good guy. was it really necessary to get rid of him?
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Bob Roman was garbage! Good Riddance!

3/24/2011 04:49:00 PM  
Blogger sharky said...

TRU and MSF were created simply to get around the re-mapping plans for the beats that always gets struck down. Just like many other units/districts, both of them have their hard chargers and their dogs. The thing that gets me is all of the people saying that they wont do anything now when they get dumped from those units.
Past experience has taught me that those types of people never did work, just talk. Workers always have pride in what they do, no matter where they are. Yeah, they always strive for something better, as we all should, but NEVER say that they are gonna lay down.

3/24/2011 04:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is bullshit!! Anyone on any unit will tell you that you had to do alot of work in the districts to make a move and when you get there you have become a hunter, now they want you to go back and do the same shit in a beat car, all that work for nothing. Hell you can have 300+ arrests in a year and it doesnt matter when they want to put you out to dry they will. I can promise you this when and if we do get disbanded I will not do shit! We go out every night to all the fucken hell holes and fuck with everybody that the districts dont have the opportunity to, we help in every district wherever possible. I am sure that there are a few assholes that piss off some beat cars but hell they were the same way in there fucken districts. This is all bullshit! And how the hell is a 67 year old gonna run the city when forced retirement is 63 fuck them, and I am going to be a fucken 1sta nd 16th police officer.

3/24/2011 02:01:00 PM

One thing you will do is answer calls in your broken down beat car and scratch out paper all night long like the rest of us you peon.

3/24/2011 04:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only the seasoned, knowledgable, self motivated Officers should be there.
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Just who will decide who is seasoned, knowledgable, and self motivated?

3/24/2011 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officers in msf telling others they dont have to do anything. Come back to districts and answer some of these calls!

3/24/2011 04:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the guys who think their getting FUKED consider it part of your on going training.

3/24/2011 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"amen brother, they dump the hardest working officers from this unit they wont get so much as a parking ticket out of me"

So nothing will change then....cause most of you clowns think your to good to do paper and write parking tickets!

3/24/2011 04:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would be a stupid move. At least while they are there they are required to do activity. Once on the watch they aren't going to be ding shit out of spite.


If true then they dont deserve to be chicago police officers. They can pout and whine all they want but if they are on my sheets they will do something... I do not tolerate zeros on my sheets. you can call me a hard ass or what ever you want but I take extremly good care of the guys on my sheets. even the dogs come in with a few parkers and contact cards or cta checks. In turn I allow the lunch on the end, holding slips for time on the end or front and not being up thier ass all night long. it is a mutual respect for my officers as they have for me. I will take care of them if they take care of me. If some 4 year kid from msf comes into my sector and is pouting because hes got to work a beat car and isnt gonna do shit then be prepared junior. I will be riding on every single job you are on all night long. I can be the best sgt youve worked for or a royal pain in the ass.

3/24/2011 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First, to MSf-A, which I can only guess stands for ASSCLOWN, MT made the decision to go to TRU, because your sissy little companions were too afraid of how real police officers conduct themselves on the street, so they(I'm sure you're one of them) acted like rat-finks, and had him stuck inside on desk duty. GFY! You jagoffs lost one of the best! As for the rest of the "hard charging" msf types, quit bitching about being possibly dumped, and threatening to do nothing when you return to a watch.....just be happy you had the opportunity to do what you got to do for as long as you got to do it!

3/24/2011 05:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street?

==Answer calls to help with every day, every watch backlogs! That's where you are needed.

3/24/2011 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still have not heard of when 1000 more cops will be hired .
How about just keeping up with retirement. I believe the estimate will be about 450 this year alone.
The city will only hire about 150-200 this year. Do the math.
When will the media pick up on this!!!!!!!!!!!

3/24/2011 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

..to see what a good cop is look back to how shit got done in the 70s, 80s and early 90s.. then you will understand how stuff got done and what a copper was.

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I agree. In the 70s we had Starsky, Hutch and the Angels. In the 80s we had the Hill Street Boys and Sgt. T.J. Hooker. In the 90s we had..oh nevermind. It brings tears to my eyes just reminiscing! (LOL)

3/24/2011 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The comments by those few who say that because they are back in the districts they will produce nothing for the watch are very bad and look bad to people outside the department.

--who cares about producing, just answer calls so I can pee more than once during my tour. Production = court. I don't care if you don't care.

3/24/2011 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ive got 27yrs on and Im telling you that their threats of doing nothing is bullshit they'll come back and work their ass off to get on tact thats what the young do.

3/24/2011 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After retiring with 35 years and working in specialized units and patrol and being lucky enough to have a few promotions, I can truely say that the backbone of the department is patrol and always will be patrol. THAT is where the emphasis should be. The task force/special operations.TRU type units serve a purpose, but are not as important as the beat cops. The homicide detectives usually do a good job, but the property crimes guys are a total waste of manpower and should be cut back or made to do their job. Boy or Boy, these specialized units really think that they are the gift to the department. I worked in many of these type of units, called different things in under different supts., and I can say that in each and every one, there was more screwing off then work done, longer lunches, even hanging out in private clubs and at people's homes, and that includes the district tactical teams. The department could get by with fewer tactical teams for a start, eliminate the tact lieutenant and some of the sergeants and put them under the supervision of the watch commander and beat sergeants. This is just one man's opinion who has been around for a long time and seen a lot during a long career.You are all police officers and should do this job for personal satisfaction and pride. For you to say that if you are transferred from some glory unit to a district you will not even write a parking ticket, then I say you should be ashamed of yourself. You truely did not take this job for the right reasons. And the right reason, to me, was and is important, as important as the pay and benefits. Now, all we need is for someone to really come in as the leader and take the politics out of the job and improve the moral of the officers. Give everyone a fair chance at promotions and assignment.

3/24/2011 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look, I'm for turning the department back over to the sworn and all, but if Hillard is just marking time, why allow him to appoint and change, when a new guy may be in here in 3-6 months and do it all over again?
It just doesn't make sense.

--this is setting the new guy up to walk in with clean slate. Terry's doing it, and some people are pissed. They want to boost morale so that's why is being done now, so the new guy isn't blamed.

3/24/2011 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have to have a mobile field force that you can reallocate at a moments notice.

--use swat

3/24/2011 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is it true that they are readying 26 cubicles on the 4th floor of headquarters for intelligence?

3/24/2011 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good coppers in the 70's 80's and 90's???? All those years are behind you asshole, that was a totally different time. I'm tired of all you old fucks reminiscing about those years, try doing the same shit you did then now. It's not these newer officers fault that they're hands are tide due to all the technology(cell phones, cameras, and all the other shit they use against you). You have to go by the book nowadays unless you wanna get sued or go to jail, just look at Cozzy. Back in your bullshit 70's-90's he would still have his job with maybe a couple days suspension. This whole fuckin department is full of whinny salty fucks, beat cops are salty because they can't be in units and units are getting salty because they might have to go back to a beat car. All you idiots on here care to much about this fucking job and not once do I hear anything about FAMILY. Family is the number one priority wether ur in a beat car or in a unit. Instead of all this bitching and whining we should be worrying about backing each other up so that we can go home to our families. Be safe ou there

3/24/2011 05:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is very unfair to us hard working officers. Why does this department fuck with hard working aggressive officers?

--have you learned your lesson yet?

3/24/2011 05:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Why dump Bob Roman, he was always a good guy. was it really necessary to get rid of him?'

Bob Roman hasn't done a fucking thing in the streets. He is not, nor has he ever been a leader.
He's been a 1st Deputy's office ball warmer of a Sgt. for most of his career, until 1st Deputy John Thomas ousted him for disrespecting his secretaries. And
where did Bob wind up? He sat on his ass in OCD as the Admin Sgt., where he did absolutely NOTHING, except get his kid into the unit with all of 4 years
in as a patrolman; about 18 months later, he got
his kid moved to the Mayor's security detail, where
he has been in hiding ever since. As soon as John Thomas died of a heart attack, Roman went right
back where he had been, in the 1st Deputy's office.
Oh, by the way, he also kicked his wife to the curb
and married a female PO who was assigned there.
And after he retired, as a do-nothing Sgt., he was returned to the CPD in a civilian capacity to grace us once again with his skinny tatooed arms, as a civilian Commander who was touted as being "the eyes and ears of Jimmy Jackson (funny, I bet JJ was never asked if he needed a ball warmer, or who his personal choice of one would be)." And what has
Bob Roman done in his 'official capacity' as a civilian Commander for the past 3 years? Not much at all, except submit Merit Promotion packages for whoever WEISel/Masters or Shanx called him and
told him to submit, including Weis's last assigned
driver. So, truthfully speaking, your pal Roman did nothing but take up space & oxygen and milk the system of a very high salary while being nothing
more than a yes-man for the Mayor. And that is
why the majority of this Dept. is GLAD HE IS GONE.

3/24/2011 05:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic. Thought it was intersting though.


We have been talking to an inside source in the Cook County Sheriff's Department who claims to have been witness to a potential huge eviction scandal and coverup in the Sheriff's department. Our source tells us that an internal investigation was launched a few years ago within the Department reguarding evictions after a complaint was filed with the departments Internal Affairs Department. Our source tell us that the complaint was a bomb shell and implicated very high ranking members of the Dart administration in huge Eviction scandal that would of been very detrimental to the departments image if the story went public. The source tell us how the scandal was allegedly carried out. Evictions have to proceed in the order they were filed by state and federal law. Evictions can be a very lucrative business for lawyers and people involved cause of the long drawn out process that can occur. Our source claims that very high ranking members of the department were allegedly involved in a kickback scheme for years, that involved lavish gifts and monetary gain in return for certain evictions to be moved to the front of the line. Our source claims that one of the major parties involved spouse worked at a law firm that benefited greatly from the eviction business. The source also claims that Dart's Internal Affairs department abruptly closed the investigation after giving the major parties involved a slap on the wrist. The source also alleges that the Sheriff's department Internal Affairs or OPR as they are referred as, did not turn over their findings to the proper authorities. Our source claims that the two high ranking members that were knee deep in this alledged scandal have very close ties to Mayor Daley. One of them is even blood related to the mayor according to our source. The other major player was promoted by Dart and kept his position even after the scandal was allegedly investigated by Internal Affairs. Our question is why this investigation not turned over to the proper authorities and WHO are they trying to protect? And how did the major parties involved keep their jobs and positions.

3/24/2011 05:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

..now they want you to go back and do the same shit in a beat car, all that work for nothing. Hell you can have 300+ arrests in a year and it doesnt matter when they want to put you out to dry they will.

Ah, if you forgot, you VOLUNTEERED for this unit. When you VOLUNTEER, you leave yourself open to the departments whim.

But please, come back to the district and don't do shit. That way when the next special unit is formed you shouldn't be so surprised when your told your application has been turned down because you haven't done shit.

Karmas a bitch!

3/24/2011 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I just made it to the MSF about several months ago when they were aggressively hiring. I am an aggressive officer who used to work in 025 and now they will send me off to probably 007, 011, 004, 003 or 006 (all south side districts where no one wants to bid in). This is very unfair to us hard working officers. Why does this department fuck with hard working aggressive officers? Like I said, this is fucking unfair.

3/24/2011 01:16:00 PM

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booooo fuckn hoooo----i guess all your hard work is paying off

3/24/2011 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Narcotics will be trimmed down to 200 officers.


Wow!

3/24/2011 05:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think we need a citywide unit to address problems that crop up


Give SWAT that responsibility. They're accustomed to rallying up and getting to a spot on short notice.

3/24/2011 05:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

dry fire sessions??? are you kidding me? give me a break with your dry fire and pt and intellegence crap. What does msf need intel for? You do what everyone else does... two or three bag 1811 and the occasional 2024/2027. You guys are not going out solving patterns or getting the big fish. Nobody anymore is going out getting the big stuff. the boys back in sos went and got the criminals off the street...which we now find may have been done in a less than honest way but they actually went out and got really bad guys and thugs off the street and came in with good cases.. now everyone is 1811 and dopw. i dont blame you in this enviorment but dont pretend you are the elite. I know many of coppers in msf and tru. some are nice guys but have no buisness pretending to be "elite".. just because you have 3,4 or 5 years on and like to jump out on everything that moves does not make you a great copper. Sure, you will find the weed the occasional rock or blow and maybe even a gun here or there but that is not make a copper a good cop. to see what a good cop is look back to how shit got done in the 70s, 80s and early 90s.. then you will understand how stuff got done and what a copper was. dry fire and pt time...ahahahahaha what a joke some of you people are

Hey 10 year wonder most of the guys in SOS was getting most of the big stuff with Home Inspections numb nuts how do i know this 20 year wonder has been there n done that and saw IT. I also did a lot of grey area work also it wasn't just black n white always, but when I was a 2-5 year wonder I locked up everything that moved because I wanted to be the police so don't knock these guys who are doing the 1 or 2 baggers Ive solved a few murders with a 1 or 2 bagger arrest. Ask yourself whiner when is the last time you ever pulled a 24hr report looked for a named offender on that report and locked up that offender up or grabbed somebody for robbery and pulled a whole bunch reports and looked to see if any of these robberies matched a apattern to the one you have or pulled the latest steals or sat on a stolen car to see who come back to pick it up, when the last time or developed a c/i my guess probably never. Now I agree with you some of these 2=5 year wonders are a pain in the ass but remember their locking up the assholes that you are afraid too because its below your great knowledge of policework.
In another words PISS OFF and go drink your starbucks and piss n moan how much this job has fucked you over.

3/24/2011 05:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mark is a pompous a$$ and always has been. He is an up and comer so keep that in mind. Full of himself and WAY TOO serious. You can have him.

3/24/2011 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Homan Square Dude said...

YOU ARE NOT IN THE MILITARY ANYMORE! GET OVER IT! PUT YOUR NEW BLUE UNIFORM ON AND GO BE THE POLICE, ON THE STREET, FROM A DISTRICT.

Good Lord.


You sir, are my new hero. Well said!

3/24/2011 06:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Real 153 Vet said...

Look, MSF made lots of arrests, most of them pimpy and useless. Saving the world, one rock at a time.

No more gym time, no more two hour team lunches. Welcome to the life of patrol officer.

This City screwed over a lot of hard working old timers when they got rid of SOS...the REAL 153! What makes you MSF MF'ers think you deserve better?

And one more person per watch is still one more person per watch, which means one more person might be able to attend a family function or just take a metal health day without being denied.

3/24/2011 06:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just made it to the MSF about several months ago when they were aggressively hiring. I am an aggressive officer who used to work in 025 and now they will send me off to probably 007, 011, 004, 003 or 006 (all south side districts where no one wants to bid in). This is very unfair to us hard working officers. Why does this department fuck with hard working aggressive officers? Like I said, this is fucking unfair.

3/24/2011 01:16:00 PM

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

Some of you guys left from patrol and thought you were so special. I too was going to apply but then the fact that once you join the cit can do whatever they want with you made me think twice. Now I know why! They suckered you guys into joining MSF and now you'll end up in 003,04, 005, 006, 007, 002, 009, 010. Most of you guys are from the north side and you are never going to be close to the north side again!

HA, HA, HA!!!! The joke is on you. This department doesn't care how many arrests you make, how many bad guys you get off the street, how many felony arrests you make, how much revenue you generate for them, etc...

3/24/2011 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leo will be demoted. He bypassed the chain of command and was able to dupe J-fled into creating a "unit" and make him a commander. He basically sold him a rehashed version of the gang specialists and said it was his idea. Leo simply pissed off alot of bosses with his lies and BS. GEU will be allowed to exist in the interim, but will be reduced by about 100 at the same that MSF is cut down. Leo knows this but is lying to his people (surprise) to keep a mass bail out from happening. GEU was a good idea in theory but started out with alot of people who did not have the experience or work ethic to achieve its goals. Not really a great loss, alot of teams pulling lousy numbers and little other activity.
On another note, hopefully Hillard will let Rahm know that the guy he put in charge of his security detail, Ray Ray, is a Leo Jr. A lying, self-promoting, back stabbing POS who cheated his way onto the SWAT team just so he could position himself where he is now. Devious yes, but a guy who should have been charged with a Rule 14, was kicked off the Swat team for disciplinary reasons, then had the order changed so that he "tryout" for swat again. Now he is in a position to influence the new mayor as the person in charge of his security detail? Hopefully Rahm will have his people do a careful vetting of Ray Ray to uncover all the BS he had pulled during his career. Because if Rahm continues to be duped by Ray Ray, I can't imagine that things will get any better for us.

3/24/2011 06:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The biggest problem I have always had with SOS, TRU, GEU, MSF is that I never believed the resources were allocated properly. For instance, I always thought that with MSF they would be helping out on crime scenes or be mobile at a moments notice. Unfortunately, that never happened. Or at least not here in 003. Say you got a large crime scene or a police shooting (never saw MSF at either). Why have 3-4 beat cars down? Have MSF or someone come help.

Also, with 2 city wide units, why are you taking TACT teams out of the districts to help out at the Mickey Mouse parade? Shouldn't that be better suited for MSF considering they are already in MARKED cars and in UNIFORM? Never made sense.

Now they have all these Frank cars on the TACT teams that go to districts after there was a homicide. Isn't that what Saturation did? I'm confused...

I firmly believe that there does need to be a City-Wide unit. Just one though, with about 150-250 officers.

3/24/2011 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just made it to the MSF about several months ago when they were aggressively hiring. I am an aggressive officer who used to work in 025 and now they will send me off to probably 007, 011, 004, 003 or 006 (all south side districts where no one wants to bid in). This is very unfair to us hard working officers. Why does this department fuck with hard working aggressive officers? Like I said, this is fucking unfair.

3/24/2011 01:16:00 PM


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Take the 2 police radios you bought, ur suspenders, ur "medical bag", ur taser shoulder holster and ur military style vest and military "go" bag back to the district and answer some jobs. I can't wait to see goofs like you ur 1st day back in the district wearing all of that shit u bought just to fit in with the rest of the assclowns in MSF, the watch commander will have a field day with all the shit ur wearing. Hope the $$$ u spent on all the unnecessary equipment was worth it.

3/24/2011 06:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you read this, Supt. Weis, I just want to thank you for all the hard work and good things you did for the Chicago Police Department while you were here. Please don't listen to the comments made by most of these people, as no matter what topic is discussed, it is just another reason for police officers to complain about something. Thanks again for your service.

3/24/2011 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason they dont totally disband msf, tru or the other units is because the clout babies need a place to go since they dont know how to be the real police. The only people that do get sent back to the districts are people that have no clout.

3/24/2011 06:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will they be disbanding the Crystal Ball unit and commander goldbrick?

Another 12 PO's on the beat...

3/24/2011 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW!!!! All this animosity on here is truly disappointing! I used to read this blog to get a nice laugh here and there but here we are in hiring freeze, outmatched and outgunned by the savages and instead of sticking together, everyone is at each others throats! This is fucking pathetic! We bitch that the bosses, media, and public hate us and here we are doing the same thing amongst ourselves!
MSF and TRU and GEU and even throw in district tact teams are not elite units and a great majority of the officers just go out there and do their jobs day in and day out without the feeling of being elite. These comments on these blogs are not indicative of how the majority feel. It is very easy to sit behind a computer or with your buddies on the watch and bitch about these "hair gel cops," "3 year wonders," "Mobile Stroke Force," etc but remember, it is just as easy for them to do the same about their fellow beat officers in patrol; Some of whom just drive around in circles, stay down on music disturbances for over an hour, try their hardest to avoid paper and arrests and sleep half the tour.
People, this is a tough and transitional time for all of us. We all wear the SAME BLUE SHIRT and our goal at the end of the day is the same.....get home to our families safe and in one piece. It's a shame that the only time the CPD shows solidarity is after a police shooting or a funeral. Save your energy to fight the bigger fights down the road, stick together and stop trying to compare whose dick is bigger, Patrol's or MSF's....We are all Patrol and work the same streets. Stay safe brothers and sisters!

3/24/2011 07:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is bullshit!! Anyone on any unit will tell you that you had to do alot of work in the districts to make a move and when you get there you have become a hunter, now they want you to go back and do the same shit in a beat car, all that work for nothing. Hell you can have 300+ arrests in a year and it doesnt matter when they want to put you out to dry they will.
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You are truly showing your lack of time on this job.
NOTHING in this department lasts forever kid.
It's always been about what have you done for me lately.
You threaten to do nothing if you are put back in that lowly beat car??
You are NOT THE POLICE, HAVE NEVER BEEN THE POLICE
If you feel that you have been disrespected,lied to,dishonored...than quit.
There are a lot of guys out there who need a job.
There are more coppers than you think who have worked tac,gangs,gangs north-south,housing,that are now pushing a beat car doing their every day.
Earning their pay, doing the HONORABLE thing.
Something you twentysomething glory hounds have no idea about.
You earn your respect, you earn your backup, you earn your friendships.
You earn it by showing up on someone elses domestic, you earn it by putting people behind bars WHO NEED TO BE THERE, you earn it by handling that paper job with professionalism. You earn it by doing, what used to be called "housework" aka parkers,movers.
You earn it by showing up to work on time,looking professional,responding to jobs on your beat and not leaving it on the shoulders of your fellow officers because you gotta go in with some bullshit,self-serving,no-impact pinch.
But most of all you earn it by looking at that person in the mirror and knowing that you are doing the job you swore to do.

3/24/2011 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why dump Bob Roman, he was always a good guy. was it really necessary to get rid of him?

3/24/2011 01:01:00 PM

Are you out of you're fucking mind. Bob Roman retired as a Sergeant in the 1st Deputy's Office a couple of years ago. He might be a nice guy but why the fuck should he back as a Commander. You must be his son or his wife to think he is any more qualified than any other retired guy who wants to make a $130,000 a year plus a pension.
Get a life asshole.

3/24/2011 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is awesome. We didn't need that unit anyways. Ten po's in the station doing a one bagger, burning out the good dope spots writing contact cards on the nights they don't arrest anyone, and playing on the Internet so those district cops can't find a computer to do work. They need to be manning beat cars. We are always bare bones. They have an hour roll call, work out on the clock, two hour lunches, a one bag arrest, then a coffee break for another hour then go home. Welcome back to the beat kiddies!

3/24/2011 07:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put us back on the street? Where the fuck do you think we have been? How is it reasonable to remove 100 personnel from the troop strength of the MSF, which is deployed to the highest crime areas, and say that you are putting beat cops on the street? How?

You took our Training Unit. You took our Intelligence Section. You even took our PT and Dry Fire sessions. Now you take our personnel. We'll see how it goes for you this summer.

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Quit crying you hand job. Instead of PTing or Dry Firing you could be on a beat car handling jobs like everyone else. We could use the help. This summer will go just fine without MSF because we will have more people manning the districts. Don't hate because you won't be able to pick and choose which jobs you show up to. MSF was a great opportunity for those with 2 and 3 years on to get off a beat car and into a unit. Everyone's good spot comes to an end sooner or later. Deal with it. Don't whine about it. A good policeman could do the job just as easily in a beat car.

3/24/2011 07:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont mind having a group of cops that can focus on the west and south side. Call it SOS, MSF, TRU, whatever. So what they dont take the bullshit paper jobs, let them wait.

I do think they have a bit of an issue with dudes who think they know it all, but not all of them.

3/24/2011 07:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

won't KL be crying if she gets dumped from TRU, out by 11pm every night-must be nice. oh that's right, she wont get dumped, her numbers are "good" - that's why she is let go early every night

3/24/2011 07:58:00 PM  
Blogger fillmoreranger said...

f**k it, keep the whiney bodies and just give us the vehicles. Actual working marked cars are so short beats have to wait in the station at the start of the tour for an hour or two for one to come in

3/24/2011 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

since we are purging ala "barfatorium" style...can we please get rid of the political hack in Bomb and Arson...

the guy has no training or mentality for the job and is going to get someone hurt...

in this day and age with what challenges lie ahead, we need leadership not a goof looking for an after market retirement gig.

3/24/2011 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

this is what's wrong ... Somone should have stepped in. What a joke!

3/24/2011 09:54:00 AM

Aren't you someone?

3/24/2011 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure half of the people crying on here that we need help in patrol, are the same people that take 45 minutes to code out a parker or b.s. disturbance. Or after being clear for an hour request a personal (everyday) like they were just going to ask for it. If you are so worried about the backlog, clear your jobs in a timely fashion. So far I've learned on this job, the biggest complainers are the biggest dogs.

3/24/2011 08:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This move needed to happen. The only reasonable thing about MSF was the 10 hour day, everyone should want it, is a great schedule. Besides that 45 minute rolls calls, 2 hour lunches, hour long return drives to the south side after a north side lunch location and putting the blinders on at 1:15am so you dont arrive late for your 3:00am dismissal time alloted to about a 6 hour work day and an extra day off a week. Add in the two hours for dry fire or working out and you have a 4 hour work day for half your work week.

Go back to patrol and dig in. The elite units are going to be up to their eye balls in applications and then you will see who the true juice babies are. Because get it straight, its the juice that gets ya there not breaking your ass and making sure to get a head a day. Dont listen to any of that shit. Back up your fellow officers and dont take ANY crap from these fuckers on the street and maybe in the next decade you will see the respect and fear that needs to be demonstrated by the public if the decent members of society want us to take back control of the streets.

3/24/2011 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why dump Bob Roman, he was always a good guy. was it really necessary to get rid of him?

Because his ego and arrogance deserved it....

3/24/2011 09:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ot:
from chicagobreakingnews-

A Chicago attorney is facing felony charges after she allegedly allowed a client to make several calls with her cell phone while he was being questioned in a police station about the murders of a Chicago police evidence technician and another man.

Sladjana Vuckovic, 43, is charged with one count of bringing contraband into a penal institution, a Class 1 felony that could bring up to 15 years in prison. She was released today on her own recognizance by Judge Donald Panarese Jr.

Prosecutors said Vuckovic was representing Timothy Herring last November shortly after Herring’s arrest in the slayings of Officer Michael Flisk and Steven Peters.

3/24/2011 09:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It will only help if the district commanders actually use the new bodies on a real car , & not some fake ghost cars like an area 2 district commander does. By the way does anyone know the penalty for showing a officer as light duty just to keep her on the desk.

3/24/2011 09:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey 19th dist dickhead...The off-duty was a DUI! Maybe not thinking right. maybe a real nice guy sober, maybe not....either way, if he didn't kill anyone, drive the guy home, ignore whatever shit he said and you"ll probably get an apology or better in a few days, and even if you don't(drinking makes you forget)you will know that your not a prick for writing an off-duty. Sorry, I'm old school and we do have discretion. You and your kind are what is wrong with us now.

3/24/2011 09:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch for the CARBINE program to change. Hillard is not happy with the current policy. He does not mind having carbines but they will not be allowed out of the gun lock unless certain criteria is met. The order is about to get much more strict.

Besides this makes sense. We are not in the middle east

3/24/2011 09:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gang Enforcement will be disbanded by new sup. I overheard a closed door meeting. The sup was telling jackson that the transition team wants the new sup to disband GEU to show he is putting more police on the beat.
All of you officers at GEU better start bidding, otherwise you will be sent south.

3/24/2011 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
won't KL be crying if she gets dumped from TRU, out by 11pm every night-must be nice. oh that's right, she wont get dumped, her numbers are "good" - that's why she is let go early every night

3/24/2011 07:58:00 PM

Eeeewwww!! That was harsh!!!
But TRUE!

3/24/2011 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey SCC...Wasn't this mentioned sometime ago? The department was going to open up the bids to these "units" to get all the koolaid drinkers to leave. Now they will put you where they need you...

3/24/2011 09:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leo will be demoted. He bypassed the chain of command and was able to dupe J-fled into creating a "unit" and make him a commander. He basically sold him a rehashed version of the gang specialists and said it was his idea..


ummmm, not that im trying to defend the guy but leo was a commander long before GEU and long before Weis. Leo was made commander by Cline and was the commander of 008 for about a year before weis got here. Maybe before you rant on and on with your conspiracy theory you should try to get your facts straight...it makes you seem more believable then. Dont you learn anything from testifying in court?

3/24/2011 09:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Read this article she is throwing the police under the bus. Right under the bus.
Alvarez: Investigate police handling of death involving Daley nephew
BY TIM NOVAK AND CAROL MARIN Staff Reporters Mar 24, 2011 9:44PM

3/24/2011 09:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gang Enforcement will be disbanded by new sup. I overheard a closed door meeting. The sup was telling jackson that the transition team wants the new sup to disband GEU to show he is putting more police on the beat.
All of you officers at GEU better start bidding, otherwise you will be sent south.

really? what were you standing outside of the bosses door holding a glass up to it listening?? well, either way it does make sense. They are talking about sending 1000 back to the streets and GEU has over 400 bodies working there.

3/24/2011 09:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Homan Square Dude said...
YOU ARE NOT IN THE MILITARY ANYMORE! GET OVER IT! PUT YOUR NEW BLUE UNIFORM ON AND GO BE THE POLICE, ON THE STREET, FROM A DISTRICT.

Good Lord.


You sir, are my new hero. Well said!

3/24/2011 06:00:00 PM


Thank you for the compliment, but I am a G I R L. There ARE some women with common sense on this job. BTW, are you single? LOL:)

3/24/2011 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sounds like you really don't Bob Roman, he has helped more people than you can count. Jimmy Jackson knew it thats why he dumped him. sounds like your a hater, we all have skeletons in the closet asshole.

3/24/2011 09:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

""This is very unfair to us hard working officers. Why does this department fuck with hard working aggressive officers? Like I said, this is fucking unfair.""

This comment is a joke, right? Unfair. Please. Life is not fair.

3/24/2011 10:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the MSF guys that are getting dumped back to Patrol and crying about it:

Quit your bitchin'!

You had a nice spot.

You enjoyed it.....while it lasted.

Nothing is forever.

Life goes on.

All you whiners that are saying "I am not going to do a thing": all that says is that whoever picked you for a specialized or elite unit made a big ass mistake.

A REAL Police MAN would go on with his career. If you were a real police MAN.

And if you go back to the district and bitch like a bitch, the word gets back. If the Department ever decides to re-up these units, they will not bother with you.

3/24/2011 10:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am multi talented.....I am applying hair gel as I type!

3/24/2011 10:09:00 PM  

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