Sneed Was Right
Frank Gross was in line for a new title:
- Commander of 013 instead of Commander of Special Events
It seems Gross and Martin are switching spots. And it appears like this is going to be Hillard's legacy - exempts screw up, and they just get moved around until the heat dies down and the new guy comes in. Henny Penny gets "demoted" to a spot that removes her from public view, is actually a pay raise, and relives her of any responsibility for meetings. Frank gets moved to one of the quieter districts in the city that actually can run itself 80-or-90% of the time.
Why punish Commander Martin though?
Why punish Commander Martin though?
Labels: changes, we got nothing
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
86 Comments:
why is judy martin a commander anyway? good lord, she was lost in 022. Judy just use to stare at things and was always really spaced out. Did the fed make judy martin boss? I worked with her long ago in 022 but didnt know she made exempt... good grief
will rahm close 13 next year
nothing going on in 13 for the last 10 to 15 years
To be honest with you gross is a pretty decent guy. Worked for him when he was in 020 and he always took care of the guys on the watch. I understand that when people become bosses they have an instant target on thier back but this guy got many a blue shirts out of jams when he was around. Im not sure where the negative feelings toward him come from but as someone who worked for the guy he is pretty decent. Im sure its alot of people who are jealous which makes up about 80 percent of the department. Whatever, way too many bitter people on this job who would hate patton if he was in charge...just some people cant be pleased.
3/21/2011 12:22:00 AM
I agree with this. Many (not all) posting to this blog just like to complain and hate. "All Gold Stars are bad because they are merit" Well of course they are merit because all gold stars are appointed. They have to be. There is no test. Not all bosses are bad.
Gross is a decent guy. There are much worse around. A few don't like him becuase he was tight with Cline and they make it seem like they are many and not just an unhappy few.
What's really, really interesting here, SCC, is that during the awful J-Fled years, Sneed barely had an uptick on what was going on in the CPD. She basically had to find out about it by reading whatever 3M allowed to be released, or spoon feed to Spielman or Main. Now that Hillard is back, Sneed seems to be in the know about every change being made, and even faster than this blog can hear about it...kinda makes you wonder, hmmm?
Wow...be an exempt fuck up several times over, get
'dumped' to a district that is so quiet the Dept. should seriously consider closing it and merging those beats with those of 012 and 014...what a 'punishment.'
I guess Frankie has a chinaman or two left to call in for favors regardless of how unprofessional he makes the Dept. appear in the press...
So let's see I get put in the behavioral program for not sustained, exonerated, and unfounded cr's and get kicked out of my assignment and ostracized even though I did nothing wrong. But gold stars continually do shit wrong and just get lateralled. This is exactly why I only do shit on this job that benefits me directly now.
The question remains unanswered. . . . how does an exempt get overtime doing his job? As an exempt member working special events and/or a movie detail, for which he gets paid straight time while "on the clock," how does he get OT for doing stuff "off the clock" when it is all related to his on-duty work?
Well, the worst unit is still better than the best district, right? ESPECIALLY for a Commander.
Repeat: Hillard made a deal with rev's to double all suspensions he tried to break the contract at every turn and he convicted officers in the media prior to any investigation.
There were no good old day's Judy,Tery Matt, Phat Phil, Leroy, Fred et all self intrest political pieces of shit who care about themselves not us. Phony assholes who come to our funerals and pretend they are of us. Bullshit!
Fuck em all it's only you and the guy in the fox hole next to you and if you don't know it learn it and if you can't except take your ass down the road.
Who is his buddy that made 14k
He should have been fired , rules do not apply to every one , Feds should do an investigation .
They should have sent him back to 20th Dist and replace that commander .
It's the Chicago way, Didn't you know?
Who cares! I stopped careing about musical exempts years ago. 80-85% of exempts should never have made it above sergeant, and that's been generous.
I'm sure Terry had a mandate to keep a lid on things including not demoting the big shots.
The rahmulans will make any dumps after vetting all promises, groveling, and phone calls.
Remember one of Chicago's political mottos, what can you do for me?
Wait til you see the bullshit humper that a 3rd watch Lt. created in 013 to make himself look good and is forcing it down the throats of all the Sgt, and P.O.s in 013. Not a peep from Judy either...
why is judy martin a commander anyway? good lord, she was lost in 022.......
Thanks dude, but y0u 0we me a new keyb0ard as as my 0 is sh0rted 0ut fr0m spitting c0ffee
013 is not a bad place..gross is not a bad guy,martin is not a bad gal--hope the change is nice for everyone personally affected..
Judy Martin is right where she belongs.... in administration. She has no clue on running a district. As her last official act she started to have all the officers complete a humper. remember the paper humpers. she had all the officers submit their humper at the end of their tour. Stupid!!!!
Anonymous said...
"... "All Gold Stars are bad because they are merit" Well of course they are merit because all gold stars are appointed. They have to be. There is no test. Not all bosses are bad..."
3/22/2011 12:40:00 AM
I'm retired now, but I worked for MANY a boss that was competent and took care of their people. I think the problem today, might be this:
In the CPD BEFORE Daley, everyone took exams to get promoted through the ranks. To be sure, SOME peoples' test scores were altered to get a connected few up through the ranks, BUT many a qualified and excellent boss got promoted through Sergeant, Lieutenant and Captain, who were NOT connected at all. And let's face it, for the most part, those ranks have a lot more impact on the lives of us on the the bottom than any exempt has.
The whole problem did not start, however, until a judge ruled that the Department could promote to the next rank based on "MERIT", but then allowed them to do it WITHOUT DEFINING what "merit" is.
Compounding the problem, was the 30% amount that was ALLOWABLE to promote as meritorious. Before Daley, no one EVER tried to sneak through 30%, ILLEGALLY, to the next rank. Now, its looked at as a mandate that the 30% HAVE TO BE PROMOTED meritoriously. THAT IS WRONG!
That reminds me of a Sgt. friend of mine who was asked to do the Neighborhood Relations job. He thought it might be a path to meeting VIPs & politicians and give him a shot at a merit Lt. promotion. He let the PO's run it, (as most smart Sgts SHOULD do until they are needed) and he concentrated on the "administrative" matters of his office. Toward the end of his first year, the DC called him into his office and pointed out that there was a bunch of budgeted cash assigned to NR that was still there. The Sgt proudly acknowledged that he had been able to conserve and save the Dept much of the NR budget for the year. The DC told him that if they didn't spend the money, the Department might eliminate it from their budget for the next year, so he better find something to spend it on. THIS is plain and simple, a government view of budgetary matters. To comply, the Sgt wasted the cash he had "saved" on all kinds of BS lunches and community giveaways. It was like Christmas!
So, I tell this Neighborhood Relations story in order to apply it to the 30% level of meritorious promotions. If there are NOT enough people who TRULY DESERVE the merit promotion, don't scramble around looking for UNDESERVING ones just to fill the 30%.
THEN limit them to ONE merit promotion per career. Stop moving UNQUALIFIED people meritoriously, rank after rank (Penny), in order to use up your 30% allotment.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT!
Martin is screwed. She has no idea what she just got into. She is a airhead and has no idea how to lead. This is a punishment for her because she never works in her own district. She is going to have a busy summer. Gross lucked out. Wait til she screws up the first event
Depsite what some have said here, we in 013 feel lucky to have Judy Martin as our Commander. She's stand-up and always has her officer's backs. This is NOT good news for us...
Judy Martin is a great boss and will be fine. She always backs up her people and tries her best to take care of them. It's funny but people think just bc your a hard charger will make you a good boss. It takes more to being a good boss than just being a hard worker. Good luck Judy Martin
So let's see I get put in the behavioral program for not sustained, exonerated, and unfounded cr's and get kicked out of my assignment and ostracized even though I did nothing wrong. But gold stars continually do shit wrong and just get lateralled. This is exactly why I only do shit on this job that benefits me directly now.
3/22/2011 01:13:00 AM
You obviously have problems if you're getting that many cr's and haven't learned from them....and of course you didn't do anything wrong. You're obviously one of these individuals that just complains about everything and blames your problems on everyone else instead of taking responsibility and rethinking about the way you do things...just a salty-veteran.
Judy Martin is a very nice lady who always appreciated and took care of her troops no matter what rank she had.
Would you rather have Penny Trahanas? I heard, but did not see in writting, that Penny is a COMMANDER in the INSPECIONS Division. That there were seven Lieutenants from HQ, not Captains assigned as Field Inspectors. Is this a violation of the Captains' P.B.&P.A. contract? Will they get out of grade pay that is not pensionable if they "produce"?
On Frank Gross, if that is true, isn't there a prohibition on outside employment, except for teaching, for exempts?
He's Clines guy, always was. Hilliard isnt going to hurt him. The whole movie detail thing started out good on paper, everyone was supposed to get a bite of the apple. It soon went right back to "who ya know".
To3/22 @ 1217... Are you out of your fucking mind?? I came on the job in the early 90's and worked in 014...shared zone 3 with 013 and they used to rock and roll my friend... You obviously are a hair gel star who thinks the district now is what it always was... Go ask Tommy West if 013 was ever busy...
I do not now and have stopped years ago, attending any promotion or retirement parties for exempt members. Let the retired exempt members be honored at the annual christmas party at the units just like everyone else. Stop suppporting these people!!
What about Leo Schmitz?? Will he survive the new regime? Will he create another unit and sell it to the new mayor/super? He is a decent guy but a lot of revelations of anger amongst the other gold stars and Leo... Time will tell
As old hillard said when he took the job, he is a caretaker, has the authority to do nothing to exempts, and if you remember he did nothing to exempts when was the supt..
They should have sent him back to 20th Dist and replace that commander .
3/22/2011 05:42:00 AM
This switch was not all about Gross. Old Hillard wanted that goof Martin in HQ. The Gross OT Affair was just a convenient way to do it.
why is judy martin a commander anyway? good lord, she was lost in 022. Judy just use to stare at things and was always really spaced out. Did the fed make judy martin boss? I worked with her long ago in 022 but didnt know she made exempt... good grief
3/22/2011 12:16:00 AM
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WOW!! You really need to get your head outta your ass
who took that photo at that convention - cpd in full uniform and an "arrestee" on his knees?? the gossip says it was gross who took the photo and mccotter took the fall??
im not a cop.....
but, frank gross seems like one of the good guys.
i know he does a great job for the gold star ceremony every year.
He should have been fired , rules do not apply to every one , Feds should do an investigation .
3/22/2011 05:39:00 AM
It may be a Dept. rule violation, but don't believe it's a federal offense. Save the feds for the corruption of Daley and other politician's bullshit.
if I screw up they'll probably out me on midnights... wait ... I'm already on midnights
35th St. Mole
The changes are coming. The message will come out two or one day prior to change day. Exempt level changes.
One that is confirmed is GEU commander is gone! I cannot state any others as they may not occur if I post them on the blog right away. But for a fact the GEU commander is gone. Apparently every level is not happy with how the GEU commander has done things.
Also look for several command spots to be removed. A smooth transition is to take place on the 16th of May. There will be no actual demotions except for the GEU commander. The demotions will be in the form of moving people out of the "nice" assignments and into other postions, like it was done before Jody took over. A exempt did not get demoted (unless they really really screwed up) only moved to a different spot. Patrol will be getting more people with GEU to loose some and narcotics.
A complete review is occuring of all exempts and what their functions are. Also another 90 day detail to patrol level (MSF and TRU) will be occuring in MAY. These 90 detail spots are to be filled from insdie units and investigative units (OCD).
Also when the 90 day detail is over look for a new school unit to take over in August via Federal funding.
Nice. He keeps his commander salary and has his work load cut in half. Another shining example of shuffeling the deck without really holding anyone accountable.
Not sure about the anger towards Gross. I have worked for him in the past and he has always been a very fair guy as long as you do your work. As far as the OT issue I'm a little confused. As an exempt member you aren't allowed OT as I recall. From what I have been told he worked on a movie set while on furlough but that money should have been payed to him by a check written out to him by the movie production company and not the city. Something does not make since here and maybe thats the true problem.
Gross just another boss taking from the working street copper are you surprised? When terry hillard "KFC king", does shit like this he is as balless is jfled!
So we won't have a 13th District?
Kinda like how some buildings don't have a 13th floor?
I'd love to work for both Martin and/or in 013!
Anonymous said...
What's really, really interesting here, SCC, is that during the awful J-Fled years, Sneed barely had an uptick on what was going on in the CPD. She basically had to find out about it by reading whatever 3M allowed to be released, or spoon feed to Spielman or Main. Now that Hillard is back, Sneed seems to be in the know about every change being made, and even faster than this blog can hear about it...kinda makes you wonder, hmmm?
3/22/2011 12:46:00 AM
The reason obviously...Terry was Jane Byrne's bodyguard and Sneed was her first press secretary!!!
The citizens of 13 will miss Cmdr Martin. She was a great liason between CPD and the community, and took our issues to heart, and got things done. I worked with her on several community issues, and she busted her butt every time. Our community is better for having her.
Judy Martin is right where she belongs.... in administration. She has no clue on running a district. As her last official act she started to have all the officers complete a humper. remember the paper humpers. she had all the officers submit their humper at the end of their tour. Stupid!!!!
No She belongs selling insurance or some other civilian job. You people are too nice, Police should be Police PERIOD....
Gross is a Jag Bag, Mass Transit was the greatest place to work when Sullivan was there then Gross came in and fucked it all up. ask any old timers that were there...
So we won't have a 13th District?
Kinda like how some buildings don't have a 13th floor?
I'd love to work for both Martin and/or in 013!
3/22/2011 04:08:00 PM
LOL. I have worked for her and wish I still was though I do hear from some friends in 020 that Gross is the type of guy to have his officer's backs.
Also agreee with the poster who said this move was about Martin, not Gross. She worked for Hillard before and he wanted her in HQ b/c he trusts her judgement. Guess if you're an exempt and ever crossed her, you should be worried.
It humors me how people seem to put their 2 cents in on shit they have no clue on
LIKE...
"martin was lost in 022"...12:16am
WHo the fuck made you the expert in judging a boss? You probably didnt know she made exempt because your dog ass was probably too busy snoring in your hole.... Go back to sleep, we will let you know when its time for that next contract.... lol.
martin has no clue in running a district.... 7:10am
I ask you what entails running a district? AS a working cop, she always looked out for her troops. ALways maintained an open door policy and talked to you with respect, not like a "blue shirt".
What else do you want?
FACT: You will NEVER hear a working copper that worked for her, ever whisper anything bad about her in anyway. TOP NOTCH BOSS!!!!
nothing going on in 13 for last 10 to 15 years.... 12:17
Where the fuk do you/have you worked?
Did you ever hear of the the Henry Horner projects that where knocked down 2 years ago and replaced by "mixed" income housing? Probably not.
Where do work cowboy? You have my vote for a seat on the NEW and IMPROVED predictive analysis unit. You seem to know about districts are worthy of police facilities.
Crime in 013 is not what it used to be over the last couple years, but it's not to far from 014 and defenitely right on par with 012.
Once again, just some more whining and bitching from asshats who have no clue..... SALTY FUCKS!!!!
But keep it going. What my day be without the "funny pappers"...
I agree with this. Many (not all) posting to this blog just like to complain and hate. "All Gold Stars are bad because they are merit" Well of course they are merit because all gold stars are appointed. They have to be. There is no test. Not all bosses are bad.
Gross is a decent guy. There are much worse around. A few don't like him because he was tight with Cline and they make it seem like they are many and not just an unhappy few.
Your entitled to your opinion but in my opinion
your wrong! Many of us feel that the department has become a laughing stock due to the merit system. Most of the current Exempt's were also merit Lieutenants, Sergeants, Detectives. If you read the comment sections, many of these people never worked the streets for any real period of time. They get hired, complete probation, get a choice spot, get promoted, get a choice spot, get promoted again, it's ridiculous. The problem is, is that we know the truth about these people, we know if they worked or not or if they've simply been taken care of their entire careers. It's not about being decent or nice in and of itself. I know a lot of nice, good, hard working police officers who will never get the opportunity to go beyond the rank of sergeant due to political bullshit involving merit promotions. It's not only unfair to the average copper, it's criminal. I know that the current clouted few would love for us to sit by and quietly allow the current system to flourish and not bring attention to the subject but sorry.
Lest you forget, this is a blog, a place to vent, and discuss our day to day concerns. If you can't handle the truth and it upsets your sensibilities, feel free to stop coming back, because frankly, were not going away any time soon.
Anonymous said...
who took that photo at that convention - cpd in full uniform and an "arrestee" on his knees?? the gossip says it was gross who took the photo and mccotter took the fall??
3/22/2011 01:54:00 PM
what fall did mccotter take?
Would you rather have Penny Trahanas? I heard, but did not see in writting, that Penny is a COMMANDER in the INSPECIONS Division. That there were seven Lieutenants from HQ, not Captains assigned as Field Inspectors. Is this a violation of the Captains' P.B.&P.A. contract? Will they get out of grade pay that is not pensionable if they "produce"?
Oh shut up. You only show your ignorance. Penny is a captain and is assigned as an inspector. It was in writing. Learn where information is posted. And as was agreed to in the last contract with the captains, all field inspectors will be of the rank of captain. Lieutenants will now only do audits, they will not be field inspectors. Go learn something before you open your mouth.
35th St. Mole
The changes are coming. The message will come out two or one day prior to change day. Exempt level changes.
One that is confirmed is GEU commander is gone! I cannot state any others as they may not occur if I post them on the blog right away. But for a fact the GEU commander is gone. Apparently every level is not happy with how the GEU commander has done things.
Also look for several command spots to be removed. A smooth transition is to take place on the 16th of May. There will be no actual demotions except for the GEU commander. The demotions will be in the form of moving people out of the "nice" assignments and into other postions, like it was done before Jody took over. A exempt did not get demoted (unless they really really screwed up) only moved to a different spot. Patrol will be getting more people with GEU to loose some and narcotics.
A complete review is occuring of all exempts and what their functions are. Also another 90 day detail to patrol level (MSF and TRU) will be occuring in MAY. These 90 detail spots are to be filled from insdie units and investigative units (OCD).
Also when the 90 day detail is over look for a new school unit to take over in August via Federal funding.
3/22/2011 03:16:00 PM
So what you are saying is that there is going to be a "SMOKE AND MIRRORS TOUR 2011" LOL any idea what units are going to give up the bodies? Or will they go from the same units that gave up officers last year......mass transit gave up 12?? narcotics 8 ? airports 10? traffic and maui gave up some to0.
Wow if your ripping Judy Martin as a commander you obviously wouldn't be happy with anyone as a commander or think that you should be one. To rip on her either you never worked for her or were a completely unrealistic screwup.
Sgt. Julie Martin is still in 022. Judy and Julie ARE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE. Just FYI.
Rumor on changes: Jarmusz going to B&A and Roy forced out.
Not sure what Roy did and not leaving because of age!!!!
Dear Commander Martin, can you please get me into Lollapalooza?
Gross is not a bad boss. But did all other commanders get to work the detail? How many hours were taken way from a PO(s) so he and his boys could cash in?
In the absence of a real Supt. you're seeing the settling of scores. Gross didn't do anything that wasn't approved up the chain of command that's now gone. I seem to recall that all family business will be taken care of on one day, just like in the godfather! Frank they did you a favor; Judy you're F'd
Also agreee with the poster who said this move was about Martin, not Gross. She worked for Hillard before and he wanted her in HQ b/c he trusts her judgement. Guess if you're an exempt and ever crossed her, you should be worried.
3/22/2011 07:37:00 PM
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So he switched her command so he could have her downtown for the whole month and a half he will be there? The phones don't work?
35th St. Mole
The changes are coming. The message will come out two or one day prior to change day. Exempt level changes.
One that is confirmed is GEU commander is gone! I cannot state any others as they may not occur if I post them on the blog right away. But for a fact the GEU commander is gone. Apparently every level is not happy with how the GEU commander has done things.
Also look for several command spots to be removed. A smooth transition is to take place on the 16th of May. There will be no actual demotions except for the GEU commander. The demotions will be in the form of moving people out of the "nice" assignments and into other postions, like it was done before Jody took over. A exempt did not get demoted (unless they really really screwed up) only moved to a different spot. Patrol will be getting more people with GEU to loose some and narcotics.
A complete review is occuring of all exempts and what their functions are. Also another 90 day detail to patrol level (MSF and TRU) will be occuring in MAY. These 90 detail spots are to be filled from insdie units and investigative units (OCD).
Also when the 90 day detail is over look for a new school unit to take over in August via Federal funding.
3/22/2011 03:16:00 PM
So what you are saying is that there is going to be a "SMOKE AND MIRRORS TOUR 2011" LOL any idea what units are going to give up the bodies? Or will they go from the same units that gave up officers last year......mass transit gave up 12?? narcotics 8 ? airports 10? traffic and maui gave up some to0.
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35th St mole
Yes something like that. MSF and TRU will be losing people and being sent back to the Districts. Then the 90 day wonders will be detailed just like before. The goal is to beef up the Districts while still maintaining the moble force of TRU and MSF for the summer. Like you said smoke and mirrors.
Where do work cowboy? You have my vote for a seat on the NEW and IMPROVED predictive analysis unit. You seem to know about districts are worthy of police facilities.
Crime in 013 is not what it used to be over the last couple years, but it's not to far from 014 and defenitely right on par with 012.
ummm exactly. 012 is sleepy hollow and 014 is a bunch of hipsters and yuppies. 014 is also dead now. 012 is really dead and let me assure you, 013 is slower than 012 and 014. stop trying to act like you work in the mean streets of 013 cowboy. the horners have been gone for a while.. the last 5 years of the horners were dead quiet also. 013 has some high priced housing and may be "close to 014" but is not 014... dont try to convince us 013 is a big busy rockin district... You dont need to justify your existence. we all know that 013 is nonsense now. Im actually jealous... I would kill to work in 013, it would be great to get out of the ghetto and relax there. if you work there then be happy and proud to work there because dealing with the ghetto nonsense gets old. but dont claim you work in the sh*t..you dont
Gross is a Jag Bag, Mass Transit was the greatest place to work when Sullivan was there then Gross came in and fucked it all up. ask any old timers that were there
Sorry, the only reason you liked Sullivan is because he didn't care what anyone did; Gross wanted people to do their job, not hide in Ira"s all day long....
013 is now a dead district, the old days are the old days, it should be closed; 012 and 014 can extend to Chicago Ave. and handle it easily...
A complete review is occuring of all exempts and what their functions are. Also another 90 day detail to patrol level (MSF and TRU) will be occuring in MAY. These 90 detail spots are to be filled from insdie units and investigative units (OCD).
Doing another 90 day detail to TRU and MSF would be a mistake. 80% of them did nothing. Instead send them back to districts and put them on beat cars where they will be forced to at least answer calls. Make them rapid response cars and just keep hitting them with jobs.
When they went to TRU and MSF all that was expected out of them was they were told to stay in the area they were assigned. Useless!!! The bosses there couldnt force them to do anything, at least in on a beat car the dispatcher will be happy to assign them jobs.
3/22/2011 07:45:00 PM
Martin really must have went to bat for you and taken care of ya. She is nothing special as a boss. I'm guessing you have been taken care of by her because you are taking the time to defend her. I still work in 013 and am happy she is gone. Didn't do nothing for anyone unless you kissed her fanny.
Filled out a bunch of times to work movie detail & nada! Even told them I was on furlough last year and nada. Who do you have to blow to get a day on that detail?
I'll apply again when they place the dates on my e mail account but it's like the same odds as hitting the lotto.
Anonymous said...
Gross is a Jag Bag, Mass Transit was the greatest place to work when Sullivan was there then Gross came in and fucked it all up. ask any old timers that were there...
3/22/2011 07:37:00 PM
Obviously, YOU didn't work there because if you did, you'd know that the commander there was ED Gross, Frank's brother, and not Frank.
Gross is a Jag Bag, Mass Transit was the greatest place to work when Sullivan was there then Gross came in and fucked it all up. ask any old timers that were there...
3/22/2011 07:37:00 PM
Wrong Gross gasbag. That was his brother.
I'd work under Judy Martin anytime. Yeah, I meant that. Class act.
Original 153... R u the same poster as 12:17? Never said 013 was rocking and rolling. Just pointed the fact that we have our share of urban free loading creatures.
With a name like Original 153, I would assume you would be out of the ghetto and have offered your expertise in some specialized unit, or have the time on the job to be working in a decent distict.
Oh wait, u must be the type who has jumped on some good paper and walks around like the dept. is indebted to you. I have a parachute in my closet just your size. ASSHAT!!!.. lol.
02:33am
You obviously have not "WORKED" in 013. Which is probably why you have nothing good to say. Besides, enlighten/suprise me with your experience in 13.
"Didn't do nothing for anyone unless you kissed her fanny"
WTF do you want? An ass massage for all that time you spend sitting on your ass.... lol. Here is a piece of advice for u.... take a step inside real world. It's not all about you buddy.
Here is a quote you can ponder on while you think of a response.
"A man wrapped up in himself makes a very small bundle." ~Benjamin Franklin
I would kill to work in 013, it would be great to get out of the ghetto and relax there. if you work there then be happy and proud to work there because dealing with the ghetto nonsense gets old. but dont claim you work in the sh*t..you dont
3/23/2011 01:07:00 AM
looking forward to working with you.
Chalkie
So he switched her command so he could have her downtown for the whole month and a half he will be there? The phones don't work?
3/23/2011 12:50:00 AM
You must be terribly naive.
gotta love the constant battle between coppers who constantly compare who is in a busy district versus who is in a slow district..every district has its problems and everyone knows where the ghetto districts are....how about showing each other a little respect since we all put on the same uniform every day and go to work not knowing if today could be our last day here whether we are in 11 or 16...how about a little less hate and supporting one another instead of trying outdo each other...we are own worst enemy...
Dear Commander Martin, can you please get me into Lollapalooza?
3/22/2011 10:40:00 PM
Did you want to work it or attend?
Regards,
Judy
3/22/2011 07:45:00 PM
Martin really must have went to bat for you and taken care of ya. She is nothing special as a boss. I'm guessing you have been taken care of by her because you are taking the time to defend her. I still work in 013 and am happy she is gone. Didn't do nothing for anyone unless you kissed her fanny.
3/23/2011 02:23:00 AM
You must be a dog ass, as you are definitely in the minority.
Its always funny hearing how most "bosses" are or were decent guys! When you make 150K + and you know deep down inside you are a "putz" most will become somewhat of a decent guy! I love when some on here say "He just wants you to do your job!" Ask most of them how they got where they are and they will tell you with a straight face, "I did the job!" I think they meant, "blow."
Anonymous said...
Gross is a Jag Bag, Mass Transit was the greatest place to work when Sullivan was there then Gross came in and fucked it all up. ask any old timers that were there...
3/22/2011 07:37:00 PM
Obviously, YOU didn't work there because if you did, you'd know that the commander there was ED Gross, Frank's brother, and not Frank.
Retired, all I remember was the commander was Gross, did not care to call him by his first neme he was jag. Alright Kid. And i did work there in the Kraft Building and broke in the new building behind 001.
Anonymous said...
Gross is a Jag Bag, Mass Transit was the greatest place to work when Sullivan was there then Gross came in and fucked it all up. ask any old timers that were there...
3/22/2011 07:37:00 PM
Obviously, YOU didn't work there because if you did, you'd know that the commander there was ED Gross, Frank's brother, and not Frank.
3/23/2011 06:26:00 AM
Almost forgot Kid I will be in town in May for chuck Hensens party he worked there as well but please don't come the real police will be there no kids allowed or gross'ess either.
013 is now a dead district, the old days are the old days, it should be closed; 012 and 014 can extend to Chicago Ave. and handle it easily...
3/23/2011 01:22:00 AM
Yeah, cuz 014 is such a TINY district now. Why not make the whole city one district? No problem.
Gross is a great guy. Everyone is pretty quick to villainize him. I wonder if they would react the same if it was not recorded and it was just rumor? How many police in the country, if recorded on duty would be in hot water for something? In the grand scheme of things, this is insignificant.
So he switched her command so he could have her downtown for the whole month and a half he will be there? The phones don't work?
3/23/2011 12:50:00 AM
You must be terribly naive.
3/23/2011 11:10:00 AM
I think its called sarcasim.
You must be terribly naive.
3/23/2011 11:10:00 AM
I think its called sarcasim.
3/24/2011 12:27:00 AM
Really? Sarcasm? Damn!
"... Go learn something before you open your mouth.
3/22/2011 08:53:00 PM"
Since I have not been at work for some time I was not in a position to check it out.
That is why what was posted was in the form of questions. This is a blog, it is meant to be somewhat conversational. Do you now understand that?
Anonymous said...
Wait til you see the bullshit humper that a 3rd watch Lt. created in 013 to make himself look good and is forcing it down the throats of all the Sgt, and P.O.s in 013. Not a peep from Judy either...
3/22/2011 06:55:00 AM
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He (it) claims its not a humper... ya rite !! if it looks like a humper and smells like a humper... It is a humper. who you think you kidding jag !!!
that Lt is on such a high horse of a power trip , he even does the sheets a week in advance so when he's off they are approved by him and him only !! everyone thinks he is Bi-Polar but we're just saying.... get a life Lt S.
get a clue, just like that capt friend of yours no one liked A.E. you're in the same boat. NO ONE LIKES YOU
Good Luck Judy Martin, always liked working with her.
Special Events is not an easy job, one day you are planning a party, the next a funeral.
To all you Stone bashers in 013, let me ask you a question. What is it about him that annoys you so much? What has he done or does that upsets you so? Has he implemented a quota system? Has he denied you time due? Is he a tyrant like some of the previous watch commanders who have disgraced 013 and the CPD? What is it? Has he ever asked anyone to do anything other than their job? Does he demand a mover a day, 1 parker a day, 2 bus checks? Anything remotely close to the above?. I didn't think so. What he hads don e is ask you to do your job. Nothing else. How is it that a Police Officer can expect to ride around all day and not produce a single thing and survive. And don't tell me your too busy. We are talking about 013. How is it that an Officer does not think he has to possess a mover book? Stone may have his faults but all he has asked any of us is to do our job.
What's really, really interesting here, SCC, is that during the awful J-Fled years, Sneed barely had an uptick on what was going on in the CPD. She basically had to find out about it by reading whatever 3M allowed to be released, or spoon feed to Spielman or Main. Now that Hillard is back, Sneed seems to be in the know about every change being made, and even faster than this blog can hear about it...kinda makes you wonder, hmmm?
3/22/2011 12:46:00 AM
Nope. I don't wonder at all. 3M is Sneed's new source. Think about it.
Judy, former IAD, nothing but good jobs, hooked up and otherwise (merit!) - so who's her publicist? Street cred - give me a break!!
Anonymous said...
To all you Stone bashers in 013, let me ask you a question. What is it about him that annoys you so much? What has he done or does that upsets you so? Has he implemented a quota system? Has he denied you time due? Is he a tyrant like some of the previous watch commanders who have disgraced 013 and the CPD? What is it? Has he ever asked anyone to do anything other than their job? Does he demand a mover a day, 1 parker a day, 2 bus checks? Anything remotely close to the above?. I didn't think so. What he hads don e is ask you to do your job. Nothing else. How is it that a Police Officer can expect to ride around all day and not produce a single thing and survive. And don't tell me your too busy. We are talking about 013. How is it that an Officer does not think he has to possess a mover book? Stone may have his faults but all he has asked any of us is to do our job.
3/26/2011 08:01:00 AM
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sounds like you are an ass kissing moron. Yes! , he is no different than previous WC's who disgraced the 13th and CPD, and like the other post , it's not a quota system? but ITS A HUMPER jag !!
and guess what, if no one does anything for the whole shift/tour then it's because it's slow why are you concerned? Theres nothing going on. everyones busy doing NOTHING. Trying to make something out of nothing?
After reading the posts , it appears it's more about not liking that Lt. not about what he asks or does not ask of anyone. So if you're trying to defend his actions, you MUST BE AN ASS KISSER ,which doesnt seem to be the norm in that 13th dist. GFY and that Lt S also
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