013 and 021 Finished
You know it's only a matter of time now. Once it hits the papers, it's moved beyond a "trial balloon" type of idea:
Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy is exploring the politically volatile idea of closing district police stations to save millions and free scores of officers for street duty.
McCarthy is under the gun to cut at least $190 million from the police department’s $1.3 billion-a-year budget. He is under further pressure to put more police officers on beat patrol at a time when the city can’t afford to hire more officers.
- Sources familiar with the current deliberations refused to identify the stations that could be closed or pinpoint the precise number being talked about. The oldest stations are: Monroe (012), Prairie(021), Wood (013), Belmont (019), Wentworth (002), Harrison (011), Rogers Park (024), Calumet(005) and Grand Crossing (003).
They've already broken ground on a new 012, while 019, 002, 011 and 005 are all Areas. That leaves 021, 013, 024, and 003. Prairie is the most obvious closure and Wood is the next. That evens out the political fallout north side versus south side.
Speculation time! Then Rahm announces a new construction project or two, combines 020 and 024 with some minor adjustments, and builds a new Wenworth Area that combines part of 002, 003 and the left overs from 021. Geographically, it makes sense. Demographically, it might need some work. But we are definitely on the road to 23 or fewer districts. There are even quotes from supportive aldercreatures.
Speculation time! Then Rahm announces a new construction project or two, combines 020 and 024 with some minor adjustments, and builds a new Wenworth Area that combines part of 002, 003 and the left overs from 021. Geographically, it makes sense. Demographically, it might need some work. But we are definitely on the road to 23 or fewer districts. There are even quotes from supportive aldercreatures.
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posted by SCC at 8:31 AM
171 Comments:
005 is too close to Toni Prickwinckle
This Mcnutty really is a goof. Go back to New York and stay there. He's just another political hack!
about time they do a district re map..
Michael Shields, the president of the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 7, and Thomas Ryan, the president of the Chicago Firefighters Union Local 2, did not immediately return calls for comment.
Probably because the whole sexual harassment thing, in the departments and the unions, is attached to Pay Grade.
Those D-8's are very very busy! Dropping their pants, covering their asses -- rinse and repeat. Apply hair gel. (Or Ronco's Magic Hair!)
This is already being discussed at Rahm's website
www.chicagobudget.org
If he closes a district and those officers are re allocated to another district then he can claim them as new officers on the street.
Lol. I love it. Guys with no time gonna be screwed even more. Bring a pillow hair gels.
Superintendent McCarthy ,
sell both buildings 13 and 21
reduces cpd budget 2 commanders,
6 captains , 7 lieutenants , 50 sergeants , minimum of 30 housecats that carry guns but shuffle papers all day .
Good move , long overdue .
You might be able to man a few dozen 2 man cars with the housecats and tactical officers back in uniform .
one can see it coming...and Rahm uses McGruff to break the news, like he uses everyone else around him....now, what about the tryst at 35th?....some agencies/organizations actually prohibit "fraternizations" between supervisors and subordinates...some (Pinellas County, FL, sheriff) actually discipline for "adulterous relations" involving their employees...hey, Rahm?....what about it?
Then I suppose the Officers from these districts will be counted as being put "back on the street"!
What a circle-jerk!
it makes sense to close a few stations and lock ups because you don't have any officers to put in them--- seven lock ups to close next year....
"Prairie is the most obvious closure and Wood is the next."
Chicago Sun-Times, Mon-19 SEP 11, Reporter Fran Spielman.
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Since when did obvious have anything to do with straightening out Chicago politics? rmd and his cronies have obviously been stealing anything and everything for over 20 years right under the noses of the media and the electorate. The result? Nothing obviously changed anything!
Fran can speculate about 021 being closed until 021 falls into Lake Michigan, but it has been said before and now repeated. Pigs will sprout wings and fly out of her ass before Tiny Dancer 9.5 closes 021 against the will of the University of Chicago. And G-MACK has no say so in this one. He will do as TD 9.5 tells him.
TD 9.5 will not slap the U of C and Prairie-021 will stay open if the U of C demands so. It will only close if the U of C accepts a "buyout" in some manner, shape or form, but it is unlikely they would accept some form of compensation in lieu of having their police station. If they did, the price will be very high. They are big money people and they do not want to do business at 51st & Wentworth.
Would the U of C possibly fund the Prairie Street district station to keep it open? Possibly, not likely, but it would result in ill will towards TD 9.5 and he doesn't want to tug on the tiger's tail.
They can close the 8th dist satellite office too. No one knows its even there!
......and still no response to the outpouring of support to whittle the Alderman's ranks from the obscene 50 to 20. Twenty would be in line with other municipalities the size of Chicago. Taxpayers would save several times the money getting rid of Aldermen versus closing District stations, and with no public safety issues.
Ask the voters:"Would you rather have more Aldermen or more Police?" I think we know the answer.
More Officers on the street? Nonsense. The travel time for each Officer to return to "the House" several times a shift would more than offset any savings the Mayor is lying about.
I am retiring and moving on. I have no stake in this, but I can tell you this is a BIG mistake.
The only political fall-out from 013 & 021 is the University of Chicago with respect to 021. 013 is "cloutless", and clueless. The Yuppies who live there will gladly do whatever they are told.It should be noted that 024, 003, 019,025, and 011 are stations that were constructed in the 1970's and late 60's. It is a real tribute to clout and Chicago style corruption that public work projects last for only 50 or 60 years. In Europe the buildings are hundreds of years old, and that is after major wars. Here buildings are disposable, just as long as the "Connected" contractor gets the job.
To free scores of officers for street duty. Are not these officers in said districts on the streets already? Will the mayor reassign said officer to sister districts and claim to have put more officers on the street?
Don't count 021 out just yet. If the U of C wants it to remain there, it will (and remember, they just hired former Mayor Mumbles as a member of their lecture
staff).
Off Topic: Promotional Exams are here!
The UCPD will conduct promotional testing Tuesday and Wednesday of this week to fill recent holes (all caused by Doty, of course) within its supervisory
ranks. From what we know here, only 7 to 8 officers
have bothered to sign up for/are expected to show
up to take the promotional exams. Wednesday is
supposed to be an all day assessment center of
candidates (good luck with that!). Most of us here
are scratching our heads, trying to figure out why
anyone would want to move out of the patrolman
ranks and venture into hazardous waters as a
supervisor in the UCPD, where Doty can pretty much
do what he wishes with you. Adding to this, rumors
abound that Doty is going to announce layoffs within
the Sgt. ranks here very soon. Throw out the old,
make way for the new. This seems to be the motto
of the U of C now, a pillar of fairness and diversity!
Ald. Scott Waguespack (32nd), whose ward includes the Wood station, said demographics of the area have “shifted and changed” to the point where there is less housing and, therefore, less need for the antiquated stations.
Ald. Anthony Beale (9th), former chairman of the City Council’s Police Committee, said he, too, could support station closings provided there would be “no lapse in public safety.”
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Well waguspack and Beale I don't feel a need for 50 overpaid do nothing aldermen. With technology and city services there really is no need for any aldermen. 0 aldermen sounds like a good start. How does that sound Mr. alderman. We all need to sacrifice now don't we?
Would be a good idea but there are contractual things to look at. Where would the people go and by what method? Like MSF and TRU? no thanks. What about the Captains and Lt's? do they lose there bid spots as well?
So does this bring about a district re-mapping? How many bodies does thise really save? You'll just have to add more beats to other districts. And what of the bosses? Now you won't need those captains, district commanders, or even their lts....A cut in the number of white shirts? Possible retirements?
it is in process, not just exploring
They tried closing 021 years ago when they changed all the beats around. Days before it was public, the U of C heard about it and told the city if they did not keep 021they would pack up and go to Wisconsin. Re- mapping was put on hold and U of C got their district. They didnt want the crime stats for their school to include 002 or 003 stats. It would look bad fo the school. Times have changed and State St is grassy fields instead of killing fields so maybe they would go for it now.
24 new station watch coming soon
Will closing those districts benefits the surrounding districts or just jeopardize then by extending there boundaries.
heres a great article: this is the same guys who puts his father on the pay roll
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/ald-cardenas-calls-for-police-fire-closures/
Hey SCC if you can get the word out they are doing a street dedication for P.O. Ben Perez, who was killed in the line of duty, this tuesday Sept 20th at 53rd and Nashville would be nice to see some support for his wife and kids. Thanks
9/17/2011 04:28:00 PM
To whoever posted this can you supply a time. I'm RDO and live a few blocks away. I would like to attend tomorrow. Supply the time so I can arrange my schedule. Thanks
McCarthy , don't sell it as a budget cut . 13 and 21 are no longer necessary , it's a complete waste of manpower to keep these stations open . For safety reasons , the closing of 13 1nd 21 will put more police officers on the street .
Think about closing one area , with 23 districts , 4 areas could handle 6 districts each . That's 1 less deputy chief and many detective division supervisors and detectives doing office work .
CPD needs Police Officers and Detectives on the street , not hiding in an office .
"supportive" aldercreatures?? How 'bout we get rid of a few of those asshats?
Good Riddence.
I say close 11, surrender the district to the natives and withdraw. After the destruction, come back in and nation-build, should be cheaper than maintaining a police force and underperforming schools
Uhh, Belmont is 19, not 25. And 19 was built to absorb 23 at the time. 25 is newer than 14 and 24.
OT: ALEX VALDEZ MURDER TRIAL ROOM UPDATES PLEASE
I'll be sorry to see 021 go, started their in 1972.
If the city is going to redraw district lines... and new wards are being defined... let's also downsize the number of wards and aldermen !! The city could save all kinds of money in the long run. It might cost more upfront due to telephone lines having to be customized to new zones... but you can also accommodate the aldermen in a ward office that takes into account all kinds of ward activities and services. After all, the city has had a decrease in population. Why not mirror that decrease in a belt-tightening across the board? After all, Mr. Beavers said that there are no sacred cows when it is budget time....
They could definitely extend the boundaries of 001 to include Chinatown and pretty-much everything inside of the Stevenson extension that is currently in 021. Add as few as 30 or 40 officers to the south end of a readjusted 001, and I actually think most 1st district residents could approve.
One correction for Fran's column (imagine that): Wilson did not close a few police stations, he closed about half. Before the Summerdale Scandal, wards each had their own police district, with all the higher-ups and many of the POs hand-selected by the alderman or ward committeeman. By cutting the CPD free of direct political control, the idea was, professionalism would increase and good cops could do their damn jobs without worrying about clout. If only that dream had come true.
Also, it parallels precisely the controversy over garbage pickup going to a rational grid system instead of the inefficient ward-based system we now have. Alderman once ran the CPD, now they run the Garbagemen. They don't want to give that up because it's one of their few direct powers over the voters. If we could just get zoning away from them, then everyone would see that 20 aldermen would be enough for this town.
The Univ of Chicago won't stand for it and neither will the Hyde Park Radical Chic types. The talk a gpod game, but deep inside they are petrified of the animal too.
The Urban Pioneers in 13 are also burning up the phone lines also
Both groups are Rahm's power base, he won't piss them off.
Daley tried the same stunt with 021, 013 and 020 about 20 years ago, it backfired then-the neighborhood rose up.
Blah, blah, blah. I've been hearing this same old song and dance for years and year. I'll believe it when I see it
But we are definitely on the road to 23 or fewer districts. There are even quotes from supportive aldercreatures.
23 or less sounds like a good start, at reducing the number of aldercreatures.
Well if they can down size district's then they sould down size the number of Aldermen we have from 50 to 25.
When the 2 districts close Rahm will take credit for the leftover office personnel who have to hit the streets and they will finish his bs number of 1000 officers.
About time underused districts are closed. Many exist just to give out more gold stars and provide politcal plumbs.
The original plans were that when Rogers Park (024) Foster Ave (020) was to close. Same when Belmont opened. Town Hall was to close.
Wood Street is way past usable.
FYI The Belmont station is the 019th District. The Grand-Central station is the 025th District. Retired 1 year ago.
Keep working hard and bring in those numbers assholes! I am sick of it. This means they can justify us having less officers and thus who the fuck cares about our safety? I remember not too long ago when we had two man cars on every single beat, two wagons, a traffic car, rapid response cars and people left over.
Really Chicago Police Dept could easily cut another 1,000 officers .
Look at man power in Public Transportation , Narcotics , ERPS ,Crime Lab .Assign ET's to districts , they can handle the Burglary and dust for prints .
Assign Forensic Investigators to Detective Division to Investiagate and process crime scenes . Murders are way down , no need for F/I's to receive sgts pay while waiting for a call , let them help clear some crimes .
You can't run a city without taxpayers and Chicago democRATS only care about votes. Margaret Thatcher said it best" The problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other peoples money".
21 wont close all U of C gotta said to rehm is 21 close we putting your kids out of U of C.
And no one want the 3 dist in Hyde Park those po's don't know how to conduct themself. CR complaints will go up 50%.
Combine 20 & 24? How can that work? Except it did for years, before 024 was built. Most of 024 was 2001 @ 2002s beat. Worked fine. Only thing better would be to give Jonquil and Junior Terrace to Evanston.
So 12 and 21 will add to the 'homeless'.
Where are all the homeless going to go? Can we open up the aldermen's buildings and stick them in there?
Maybe those 4 new boathouses down by the river we're building and the new park with the birdbath is a place for them to hang out!
closing district police stations to save millions and free scores of officers for street duty.
More smoke and mirrors...
Off topic just want to thank 2521R for going down on bullshit TVB s all night the past few weekends even tho the district was in a back log. Thanks JW and DW we all love covering your beat all night every night . Why dont you guys take a traffic car and let someone else who could use an early start take your car??
Just how many stations are we going to close to satisfy the Wizard of Oooozzzze at City Hall? You can only cut so much meat from the bone and you then have only bone left. Lots of other places to cut money from but that won't assure the reelection of Hizzzoner in three years or a boost to higher office. Same old story just some new tricks.
As said before, 002 and 001 can absorb 021 easily. They are both small districts geographically. Current 001 rumors that foot and tac are getting haircuts could be an early indicator with those officers available for new beats.
I don't care what they do anymore.
I'm at the point where the 1st & the 16th are what matters.
Here was an idea, sell the 023 Dist for fair market value and use that money to hire police. Instead, it was squandered for gay votes. Here was an idea, sell the 017 Dist for fair market value, " What it was GIVEN away for Asian/Hispanic votes"? See the trend, and we're considered the unclean masses by the Pols. How about selling the old 020 in the yuppiefied neighorhood and SELL 013 and since 021 is home to the President lease it to the G or as a tourist trap.
What happens to the officers in these districts? Do they get a"superbid" to a paradise like 003, 005, or 004?
So when 013 gets closed will the school car go back to 011 on days? Or, will he go to 1st watch? It will be interesting to see all the butt kissing that wil come with this consolidation.
The aldercreatures can't see this for what it is, "The Empereors New Clothes". Wonder if the taxpayers in those Districts will...
Closing 013 and 021 make sense. A few years ago when this came up under j fled I thought closing 023 made sense, 020 and 019 could have easily absorbed it but daley pandered to ald tunney and gave them a new station. In the same sense I wouldn't doubt if he did the same and kept 021 open and just closese 013. Rahm would never close 024 those are his people.
Should only have the 5 areas.... everyone works out of those. Would put a ton of coppers on the street. Beat integrity would be really important, but I see no reason that there is a physical building in every dist.
I was in 13 years ago, nice place to work. The best bunch of cops in the city in my opinion, but there have always been rumors of closing it because of it's size and the area was getting much better. Hate to see it, but if it's time has come I guess so be it. Of my 31 years, the eight at 13 were the best.
FINISHED!! The only thing that's finished is the supe McFling, why is there no media coverage on that. The new supe on a direct order from D.C. is our very own M. Shields. This is why this is an award winning blog.......you hear it here first
Im sure when the revrums wake up and realize this will mean LESS poleeeeese in their areas they will wake up from their comas and start to chirp........
Also please view chicago rahm puppet....its hilarious
Open Superbids for all 013 and 021 District Officers and Supervisors to West and South Side Districts only!
Manpower shift on the drawing boards!
To help please the Police hating Reverends!
You heard it here first!
From: "the walls that have ears"!
that makes sense..thats why they don't want to eliminate words from 50 to 25. they have to eliminate districts first and then depending on how many districts the end up with, they will start eliminating alderman.
Conversely, how about the 8th District with a population of nearly a quarter million people? This alone would make it the second most populous city in Illinois.
Split 008 into two districts or move Englewood's western border out to Kedzie Ave.
Supertintendent-McHatchet
Supertintendent-McButcher
Superintendent -McYesman
Superintendent -McSmokeandmirriors
Superintendent -McOutsider
Superintendent -McSurgeon
Superintendent -McCutter
Superintendent -McTrimmer
Closing 13 and 21 will save money for sure but it really won't put that many new boots on the ground. You figure 2 bid desk and 3 watch relief from each watch or 15 per district. Throw in 3 lockup keepers per district but I'm not even sure those 2 districts have lockups. You can then add a watch secretary per watch for a total of 6 of those.
Empty Commanders offices and Caps offices for maybe 10 bodies per district or a total of 20. All told probably 55-60 officers between the 2 districts.
Money saver? Definitely. Cure all for manpower shortage? Not so much.
Lets close police stations so we have money to build 4 boathouses on the chicago river for the kayakers.....and he's getting a great deal on them at only 4 million a pop!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-city-to-build-boat-houses-on-chicago-river-20110919,0,3626930.story
If they close 13 does that mean that Area 4 can have the 001st District back?
But we are definitely on the road to 23 or fewer districts.
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While they're at it, maybe they can cut the number of aldermen to 23 or fewer, too.
Nobody can tell me that the city of Chicago requires 50 aldermen. Maybe back in the day, when the city was in growth mode, but last I checked the city limits are pretty much set.
Unless they start annexing Oak Park and Evanston, or something.
I work in 013, am I not considered an officer on the street already? It's amazing how these people think... Smoke and mirrors...
I don't care what they do anymore.
I'm at the point where the 1st & the 16th are what matters.
9/19/2011 01:54:00 PM
What took you so long to finally see the light and come to your senses?
The present 014 was opened about 18mos after 025 was opened, Get the facts straight. I was there!
A little History lesson is in order here. When O.W. Wilson took over one of his first moves was to reduce the number of districts from 38 or 39 down to 20. 21 was not supposed to exist after realignment. U of C was upset about this and said so, to little avail. Kinzie Bluett, who, I believe was the first black police Captain, and at the time was the Captain commanding the Wabash District and slated to become the District Commander of the newly aligned 2nd District, also Wabash, made some pretty strong comments about some pretty loud noise to the black political power structure of the south side, notably Congressman Dawson that if U of C was incorporated into his district, the money flow would be compromised by the presence of all those intellectuals. Prairie Avenue was reinstated as a District because of this, and much to the relief of the U of C. Because this occurred as an aftertought, that is why 21 is numbered out of sequence. You could look it up.
The voters of Chicago should be outraged. The mayor is playing games with their safety while leaving the number of aldermen intact. Everyone bleeds except fir them. This should leave no doubt in anyones mind there ha not been a functioning democracy in Chicago in a long time. More like a Lord with 50 vassals, assorted serfs and a growing number of peasants.
Eliminate the Golds Star in Charge of Intel Unit 191 30 Pos and a Cmdr and merge them with Bomb and Arson. Save $$$$$
Horses- do we realy need horse with extra pay for less than 1/2 of a year????
Take Home Cars??? Bye Bye Saves Millions
To the daily rumor guy who said that the Supt was going to resign on Monday because of his big secretive fuck up... Well it's Monday at 1700Hrs and still no word on it. Or did you mean some Monday in the distant future? Asshat
3:06 PM
Boundaries of police districts and wards are unrelated.
Ward boundaries are based solely on EQUAL population while police districts boundaries are based on logistics and other factors which are not directly related to population.
The CITY HALL TROLLS are boasting how that’s good about fewer Commanders and Captains and all that but REAL POLICE please remember that means LESS chances for promotion for everybody.
Haven’t had time to read all the comments yet but if they try to send more people where I work where the hell are we going to put them? After Unit 193, MSF and TRU dissolved there are no lockers left, fewer parking spaces especially with additional squad cars. Are these new senior officers are going to back to working out of the trunks of their cars. Maybe they will bring their lockers with them and put them in the sally port. Just don’t be in your skivvies when the doors open in winter, besides we have cameras in there.
There are only three working computers in the prisoner processing area. So take a number and wait after driving halfway across town with your arrestee.
And when a Captain from a closed district goes to another district, it is going to be a seniority thing who gets what watch. Then he or she will bring his or her whole desk crew and maybe bump a whole well run crew who has been there for years. Isn’t that going to be great for morale.
This is not for the good of the Department, the Officers or the Citizens. It is to feed the Democrat/Socialist machine who doesn’t give a damn about any of the above.
Register and Vote.
Superintendent McCarthy ,
sell both buildings 13 and 21
reduces cpd budget 2 commanders,
6 captains , 7 lieutenants , 50 sergeants , minimum of 30 housecats that carry guns but shuffle papers all day .
Good move , long overdue .
You might be able to man a few dozen 2 man cars with the housecats and tactical officers back in uniform .
6 Captains? Where have you been? I'm sure your other numbers are off too.
"They tried closing 021 years ago when they changed all the beats around. Days before it was public, the U of C heard about it and told the city if they did not keep 021they would pack up and go to Wisconsin."
The above post is about the dumbest posting I have ever read. U of C @ Whitewater, Oshkosh, Milwaukee, Lake Como???. SCC enjoy the blog but please weed out these morons.
CPD could use an extra 55 - 60 housecats & don't forget about 60 aggressive tact men on the street in a beat car . That's 115 to 120
more bodies in blue.
013 station is already slated to be a needle exchange/homeless shelter/soup kitchen.
S/W/M Seeks inside position preferably office related with occasional food concession responsibilities. I am skilled in basic math and have excellent Farmville and Facebook knowledge to keep busy while patrolman are working the trenches. I am available to join any special police association to expedite the process without argument. I don't work details and will work occasional Sunday's.
Serious Responses Only.
Prince Valium
Who gives a fuck?
Start worrying about your pension and benefits.
In the near future, while we take pay/pension cuts and our kids can't find work, those bright faced babes at the U of C Lab School will be perpetrating further financial crimes against the American people just like their daddies.
anytime you loose spots and down size it is not good for the po's...so wake up morons.
rahm loves screwing the working people..he will not save any money cause it will go to take care of welfare rats..the bad guys are winning..
when are we gonna stand up to the rahmnster????
It is just like TRU unit. Close the two districts and create a superbid.
Get rid of the aldermen's 1.3 million dollar annual "discretionary" fund. Which translates into taxpayer subsidized bribe money for votes. There, I just saved the city over 60 million.
the police are the servants of the welfare rats of the city...what a joke we have become..and we accept it..from bosses that have gang relations, unqualified and promoted cause of race and sex...that why people say the 1st and 16th.
Rahm threatened to burn down the house of a state legislator. Wow. What a big, tough guy he is. That little nine fingered twirp must think he's a real tough guy because he grew up on the North Shore and hung with liberal pussies his whole life.
These libtards truly sicken me.
021 from area 1. 022 from area 2 are the ones 021 no lock up easy to divide up 022 need better police, easy to divide up between 006 and 005. 022 is a new station but the savings will be great, lock up not used much.
Should only have the 5 areas.... everyone works out of those. Would put a ton of coppers on the street. Beat integrity would be really important, but I see no reason that there is a physical building in every dist.
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If you look at the arrests for each district on a daily basis, it's pretty clear why you couldn't have everyone in the city bringing their prisoners back to 5 locations to process them. It would be a mad house every single day.
All this talk of closing districts finally brings light onto why it has taken so long for the installation of new consoles and the redisign of the OEMC dispatch operations floor! Last comment made at our roll call a month ago was that the reconfiguration would begin in January 2012!
It's a wait & see time.......
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic just want to thank 2521R for going down on bullshit TVB s all night the past few weekends even tho the district was in a back log. Thanks JW and DW we all love covering your beat all night every night . Why dont you guys take a traffic car and let someone else who could use an early start take your car??
9/19/2011 01:38:00 PM
GFY! You too can do the same thing. Quit crying. You too can make arrests, go in with tvb's, arrest people for 1811's, stay down on jobs, etc... What is stopping you?
"There are even quotes from supportive aldercreatures."
Of course, Police do not put money into their pockets. Tear down a police station and build a high-rise and fill it with Section-8 New American (Illegals), now that puts money in their pocket.
They get more votes out of the Illegals than they do us.
NON-POLICE TROLL (IDIOT)
>>>Anonymous said...
Should only have the 5 areas.... everyone works out of those. Would put a ton of coppers on the street. Beat integrity would be really important, but I see no reason that there is a physical building in every dist.
9/19/2011 02:32:00 PM<<
OK, fool, cram everybody into those 5 buildings, have them drive all that distance and time to their jobs, elbow to elbow to in the 5 stations to handle the paperwork.
Stick you head out your City Hall Office and take a flying leap. Next you will be saying we only need 5 Fire Houses in the City.
Makes sense. But if the residents think they won't lose service they are wrong. Those who get clumped in with 14 or 11 will see what would be their cars handling jobs in 14 and 11 instead. I can't believe the alderman is going along with it. He won't get reelected after the citizens see.
Why not give all the vice work to the Sheriff's Police?
They seem to be doing a good job with it. Patrol will handle all of the on-view public indecency stuff and let the Sheriff take all the Craigslist stuff.
21 wont close all U of C gotta said to rehm is 21 close we putting your kids out of U of C.
And no one want the 3 dist in Hyde Park those po's don't know how to conduct themself. CR complaints will go up 50%.
On behalf of those PO's.. Fuck You
Who's McFling?
Anonymous said...
that makes sense..thats why they don't want to eliminate words from 50 to 25. they have to eliminate districts first and then depending on how many districts the end up with, they will start eliminating alderman.
9/19/2011 03:06:00 PM
The alderman are there to protect the mayor. They create a buffer so the mayor doesn't get indicted. How many alderman have been indicted compared to mayors in the City of Chicago? Enough said....It WON'T happen people.
abound that Doty is going to announce layoffs within
the Sgt. ranks here very soon. Throw out the old,
make way for the new. This seems to be the motto
of the U of C now, a pillar of fairness and diversity!
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Again: who the fuck cares?
OT: An ad in Crain's today ---
The Retirement Board of the Policemen's Annuity and Benefit Fund of Chicago is soliciting proposals for external independent audit services beginning with the year ending December 31, 2011.
A copy of the Request for Proposal is posted and available for review on the Fund's website at www.chipabf.org
Responses are due Friday, September 23rd, at 3pm. This Request for Proposal is being issued under the guidelines of the Illinois Public Act 096-0006.
we only need 23 districts, but we still need 50 alderman?
Beat alignment and redistricting needs too happen. Eliminating 013 and 021 is the first step. Should of been done 10 years ago..
I know 011 is still a shit hole but it no longer is getting 400+ shot and 75+ homicides yearly. The projects are also gone in 011.
Expand 011 all the way to Western from Division to Madison.
Once that is done, 015 which also is at a record lows with violence needs to be expanded to Pulaski and made 4 beats a sector. They have enough police to do it with all the 06 cars, Mission cars etc along with 013 closing will get more bodies.
Expand 012 to 4 beats a sector to cover all the way to Grand or even Chicago and re-beat-align 014 to cover all the way to Chicago or Grand. Again both districts once 013 will have the bodies to do this.
002 can easily cover all of 021 with no problem. 002 has a man power shortage and with 021 closing it will get an ample supplement of people. No longer does beat 211 have more homicides than South Dakota.
Also would look into beat realignment for 003, 004, 005, 006 and 022. Adding 4 beats a sector to
005 and 022. Expanding 003. Adding 5 beats a sector to 004 and 006.
Last but not least adding 6 beats a sector to 008. While not a permanent fix, it would help.
I can't speak for the North side because I'm just not familiar enough with it. I know you need many more PO's for all this to happen. We will see...
five districts will be closed. I know there is nothing in writing but watch rahms entire interview regarding the topic. There are definatly going to be two closed but when he talks about it he mentions five stations could be closed easily saving upwards of 200 million dollars and gaining more "boots on the ground".. he then said the announcment of" WHICH STATIONS WILL BE CLOSED WILL BE ANNOUNCED EARLY NEXT MONTH." that came right from his mouth. He didnt say its an idea or possiblity he said the districts that will be closed WILL be announced next month. Now its just about which alderman hold the most water and want to keep their station. I see two going and maximum 3 shutting down. he will never get 5 stations closed.
Anonymous said...
Superintendent McCarthy ,
sell both buildings 13 and 21
reduces cpd budget 2 commanders,
6 captains , 7 lieutenants , 50 sergeants , minimum of 30 housecats that carry guns but shuffle papers all day
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Where'd you learn how to count dufus?
Closing those two district equals EXACTLY:
2 Commanders.... THE END.
What in the fuck makes you think they can just fire captsins, lieutenants and sergeants dipshit? Theyre' STILL on the payroll no matter WHERE they work idiot.
And as for "30 housecats"... try:
4 CAPS officers, 2 CAPS Sgts. and 12 desk personnel and 4 front office spots.
Go back to school fool.... the only money saved is not paying the light and water bills... THE END.
Commanders will be shuffled somewhere else or at the MOST go back to Lt. or Cpt.
So no, they're not gonna save "millions" or put "30 housecats" back on any street.
Not to mention the fact that some adjoining districts don't have the room to accomodate any more officers.
I don't care what they do anymore.
I'm at the point where the 1st & the 16th are what matters.
9/19/2011 01:54:00 PM
Welcome to the club! The ambiance here is wonderful!
Anonymous said...
About time underused districts are closed. Many exist just to give out more gold stars and provide politcal plumbs.
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Hmmmm.. kinda funny that you claim these as "underused" districts.
I guess the facts that 013 usually leads or is near the top in citywide calls for service annually. I guess it's also funny that 013 puts more offenders in 014's lockup the 014 does.
Underused.... yeah.
Conversely, how about the 8th District with a population of nearly a quarter million people? This alone would make it the second most populous city in Illinois.
Split 008 into two districts or move Englewood's western border out to Kedzie Ave.
you appear to be another exempt in the making!!!!!! Thats a great idea(sarcasm)! lets take the district which has the most homicides in the city, the most shootings in the city, and the most robberies in the city so far for 2011 and make it bigger! Great idea, hey 007... youve got enough problems and nonsense to deal with, how about you take on more crap to deal with and you can spread yourself out a little thinner. Maybe this poster can get a job in the crystal ball unit or someother job where great ideas are made in this department. split 008 into two district. make a district that starts at the tracks on keating and goes west. 008 would go from keating to bell.
Hey SCC if you can get the word out they are doing a street dedication for P.O. Ben Perez, who was killed in the line of duty, this tuesday Sept 20th at 53rd and Nashville would be nice to see some support for his wife and kids. Thanks
9/17/2011 04:28:00 PM
To whoever posted this can you supply a time. I'm RDO and live a few blocks away. I would like to attend tomorrow. Supply the time so I can arrange my schedule. Thanks
9/19/2011 11:40:00 AM
I'm sorry the street sign dedication is tuesday 20 sept at 1000 hours
THEY CLOSE ?
WHERE DO THE OFFICER S GO....
REMEMBER THE LAST TRANSFER ORDER BURNT UP ALL THE NICE SOUGHT AFTER DISTRICTS.
SO WHAT MORE OFFICERS SENT TO ENGLEHOOD?
THE ALDERMAN WILL NOT SAY A PEEP.
THE FEAR THE MAN WITH A KNUB.
Back in the old old days there were 50 police precincts. Each ward had its own police station. I guess having 25 today is an improvement from the olden days.
Detectives are short too and in A/4 they get rid of a P.O timekeeper and put a Dick in the spot. Domestic dicks off on weekends since we all know the west siders don't domesticate on weekends. A unit of prima donnas. Cmdr is a prince, he did not create the mess but needs to fix.
Who got pinched for domestic battery?
Anonymous said...
I don't care what they do anymore.
I'm at the point where the 1st & the 16th are what matters.
9/19/2011 01:54:00 PM
Amen brother.
Rahm would never close 024 those are his people.
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Never would happen. There is too much of a difference between 024 and 020. 020 is way, way , way too slow.Both districts share the same zone and everyone hears and knows what everyone hears and knows. There would be problems. When they combined the lockups a few years back, the ratio of arrests was 20-1. The supervisors in 020 would have a problem with the 024 officers as well. It would be a fiasco.
I have worked in 013 for a long time it used to be a great district with very good bosses. Commander Martin was in most opinions the best commander we have had. It has gotten so bad in the past 6 months I do not really think a lot of officers care whether we stay open or not. Now the only way to work for a good Boss is to bid to midnights. As much as I don't agree with our mayor I really don't see the down side of closing 013, makes sense financially and doesn't really effect manpower either way. Maybe they can also get rid of Christie Webbers and the Christian leagues city paid businesses in 013 and really save some money.
Now that all these P.O.s are coming to the districts, does that mean we can get the 10 hour day now? I like to get some weekends off and now with us stepping on each other, we can do it.
Why not two pay grades? One for the street police and 10% less for the house mouse clerks, after all they are not really the police.
Could we just let all the homeless move into 013 and 021 when they are empty? Could we? Tell me superintendent McLovin
And when a Captain from a closed district goes to another district, it is going to be a seniority thing who gets what watch. Then he or she will bring his or her whole desk crew and maybe bump a whole well run crew who has been there for years. Isn’t that going to be great for morale.
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No, those bid spots are not open to bidding each year. We got a new Capt. and she was babbling about how we'd have to re-bid for our spots. It didn't happen because once you have a bid spot, unless you are removed for cause, it's yours until you don't want it any longer.
Actually, who gives a shit about these bosses? They are temporarily assigned and leave soon enough.
A lot of extra people on mids due to seniority once this happens and a lot more winter furloughs for some.
I heard they are going to civilianize ETs, hire kids out of college at half the cost for CSI stuff.
Anonymous said...
Combine 20 & 24? How can that work? Except it did for years, before 024 was built. Most of 024 was 2001 @ 2002s beat. Worked fine. Only thing better would be to give Jonquil and Junior Terrace to Evanston.
9/19/2011 01:36:00 PM
What are you, about 90? Ah, the old 45th District. Walked a foot beat on Morse with a nothing but a rolled-up newspaper, did you? And Junior Terrace is in like, Uptown. Maybe Juneway?
Anonymous said...
Rahm would never close 024 those are his people.
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Never would happen. There is too much of a difference between 024 and 020. 020 is way, way , way too slow.Both districts share the same zone and everyone hears and knows what everyone hears and knows. There would be problems. When they combined the lockups a few years back, the ratio of arrests was 20-1. The supervisors in 020 would have a problem with the 024 officers as well. It would be a fiasco.
9/19/2011 09:39:00 PM
This is true. Should have combined 020 between 024 and 019 or 017. 024 is not busy, compared to say, 007, but it is super-fast compared to 020.
Divide and conquer look at us running around like scared rabbits. No ones going to loose their job maybe returned to normal policeman. All I got
Anonymous said...
Beat alignment and redistricting needs too happen. Eliminating 013 and 021 is the first step. Should of been done 10 years ago..
I know 011 is still a shit hole but it no longer is getting 400+ shot and 75+ homicides yearly. The projects are also gone in 011.
Expand 011 all the way to Western from Division to Madison.
Once that is done, 015 which also is at a record lows with violence needs to be expanded to Pulaski and made 4 beats a sector. They have enough police to do it with all the 06 cars, Mission cars etc along with 013 closing will get more bodies...
9/19/2011 08:54:00 PM
015 at least could go to Bloomingdale and Kilpatrick to take in the whole of the Austin "community". Put the tac unit back to 24 P.O.'s/ 3 Sgt.'s and you would free up about an extra 36 P.O.'s. alone.
Would the U of C possibly fund the Prairie Street district station to keep it open? Possibly, not likely, but it would result in ill wil. l towards TD 9.5 and he doesn't want to tug on the tiger's tail.
9/19/2011 09:21:00 AM
Move U of C Police into 021s Station give them powers of arrest, problem solved. That way CPD isnt sucked into there steady stream of nonsense they lujack onto us continually.
1. The media needs to stop printing a BIG LIE. McCarthy is not making big decisions in regards to the police department ie; hiring, promtions, purchasing of equipment, and definately not the closing of police stations. 9 fingers is making all those decisions!
2. If districts close, there will be less police cars on the street. Districts that absorb the closed stations will make larger beats to accomdate for the loss of those districts beats. Larger beats mean that citizens will probably not see their beat car. Perfect example, 016 has some of the largest beats in the city and citizens can go days without seeing a beat car in their neibrhood.
3. 3rd and 1st watch will finally be able to put up 2 man cars. Again 9 fingers will lie and say he but X amount of officers on the street.
4. Out of those 300 bodies, he will probably promote 100 detective and claim how he made detectives all again without hiring 1 single new officers.
5. These fucking politicians keep saying no one is safe due to the city's financial hardship, but never include themselves in the equation. This city is top heavy on elected officials and we can no longer afford 50 alderman. We can and must to with less. I suggest the alderman endorsing the closing of police station take one for the tax payers and volunteer to elimate their alderman spot.
6.FOP needs to start to fight fire with fire with a media blitz that if the city is that broke why are alderman positions not on the table.
7. Finally all these new guys need to STFU and stop stating on this blog the city can close this or eliminate that. The city wants to fuck with this department as a whole and gives to shit about you as a indiviual. The worst thing the police department ever did besides getting rid of our old stars, is requiring college to get on this job. Ever since that day I have never seen so many cry babies, jealous motherfuckers, back stabbing, and self entitelment officers in my life. If you never rode in a box or bubble chevy, IM TALIKNG ABOUT YOU!
Why not two pay grades? One for the street police and 10% less for the house mouse clerks, after all they are not really the police
You sound like a Stupid S O B!!!! Now take your Stupid Ass back to the street and work hard for your 2% because you don't have a clue!
I really miss F-fed and Daley... this proves once again; be carefull what you wish for
ARE THEY GONNA SELL THE OLD STATIONS MCCLOWN ELIMINATES FOR A DOLLAR??? like daley did with the old 23rd dist...
is sissy shields ever gonna do a FUCKING thing?????
JUST WAIT FOR THE GREAT CHICAGO FIRE OF 2012... G8 & nato in may... this city is gonna burn down. just look on line, there are already more protesters planning on being here, then there are police officers, and they still have plenty of time to recruit a few thousand more... BYE BYE MAG MILE
Pretty good chance they will close an area also. I would guess A3. If true, then that would bring 19 into the mix of closings
Hmmmm.. kinda funny that you claim these as "underused" districts.
I guess the facts that 013 usually leads or is near the top in citywide calls for service annually. I guess it's also funny that 013 puts more offenders in 014's lockup the 014 does.
Underused.... yeah.
9/19/2011 09:03:00 PM
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013 comes nowhere near leading the city in calls for service. Not even close.
025 1st Watch said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic just want to thank 2521R for going down on bullshit TVB s all night the past few weekends even tho the district was in a back log. Thanks JW and DW we all love covering your beat all night every night . Why dont you guys take a traffic car and let someone else who could use an early start take your car??
9/19/2011 01:38:00 PM
GFY! You too can do the same thing. Quit crying. You too can make arrests, go in with tvb's, arrest people for 1811's, stay down on jobs, etc... What is stopping you?
9/19/2011 07:06:00 PM
Maybe the fact that he/she still has enough integrity to not want to FUCK THE OTHER P.O's on the watch!
Anonymous said...
Superintendent McCarthy ,
sell both buildings 13 and 21
reduces cpd budget 2 commanders,
6 captains , 7 lieutenants , 50 sergeants , minimum of 30 housecats that carry guns but shuffle papers all day
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Where'd you learn how to count dufus?
Closing those two district equals EXACTLY:
2 Commanders.... THE END.
What in the fuck makes you think they can just fire captsins, lieutenants and sergeants dipshit? Theyre' STILL on the payroll no matter WHERE they work idiot.
And as for "30 housecats"... try:
4 CAPS officers, 2 CAPS Sgts. and 12 desk personnel and 4 front office spots.
Go back to school fool.... the only money saved is not paying the light and water bills... THE END.
Commanders will be shuffled somewhere else or at the MOST go back to Lt. or Cpt.
So no, they're not gonna save "millions" or put "30 housecats" back on any street.
Not to mention the fact that some adjoining districts don't have the room to accomodate any more officers.
9/19/2011 08:58:00 PM
Thats the same guy who said disbanding MSF & TRU put 550 more officers out on the street!
The personnel in 013 would get to bid to 014 and 012, and 011.
012 would go to Chicago Ave. from the river to Western.
014 would go to Chicago from the river to Kedzie.
011 would pick up from Madison to Chicago, Western-Kedzie.
Problem solved...
If were getting rid of 2 police districts that means we can get rid of at least 15 alderman...anyone agree?
how does this save money? You still have to pay the officers supply them with cars and benefits. I guess they city can sell the land and save on electricity, but i don't see 190 million anywhere.
003 is small , easy to combine it with 002
Need to divide 016, move the boundaries of 015 north, build up 015 district
Here's the bottom line. Let Cops go back to "OLD SCHOOL" Policing and crime will absolutely go down. When I was a kid in 024, I would see the beat cop near Morse and Greenview drag the assholes into the alley by himself and give the old wooden shampoo. Beat cops on foot had an amazing way of deterring crime, it's a fact!
There is more "housing"(albeit not public housing) and "demographics"(people, esp. the taxpaying kind) in 013 than in 007, where almost every block has vacant lots and burnt out buildings. This comment is not intended to pit district v. District, but to show that the rational behind these changes is dubious.
I do not understand why people keep saying it will put more officers on the street. The increase will be negligible. You will not have more officers so that you can have two man units on 1st and 3rd watch... You will still need officers to work those beats in the closed districts. We are not losing beats we are losing structures. Where will they house all these officers anyway? Lockers, etc.?
"Superintendent McCarthy ,
sell both buildings 13 and 21
reduces cpd budget 2 commanders,
6 captains , 7 lieutenants , 50 sergeants , minimum of 30 housecats that carry guns but shuffle papers all day "
Who was your math teacher? Obama?
13 has 1 Capt. so unless 21 has 5 Capts.....
21 wont close all U of C gotta said to rehm is 21 close we putting your kids out of U of C.
And no one want the 3 dist in Hyde Park those po's don't know how to conduct themself. CR complaints will go up 50%.
On behalf of those PO's.. Fuck You
9/19/2011 07:51:00 PM
WTF language is that? I don't understand one fucking sentnece of this post--if you can call them sentences! Read a book~!
Unfuckingbelievable! Let them eat cake, eh?
Lets close police stations so we have money to build 4 boathouses on the chicago river for the kayakers.....and he's getting a great deal on them at only 4 million a pop!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-city-to-build-boat-houses-on-chicago-river-20110919,0,3626930.story
9/19/2011 03:50:00 PM
To the the poster that said 013 was the best district he/she ever worked in- that may have been true years ago but it has since turned into a haven for the lazy,the do nothings,the disgruntled, the malcontents and the whiner, especially on the 2nd and 3rd watches. I've been there for over fifteen years and have watched what was once a great place to work turn into what it is today.
In many ways the closing of 013 may be a good thing. It is my sincerest hope that the aforementioned people get dumped to places like 006,007 or some of the other shitholes this city has to offer. Then and only then will they realize how good the malcontents of 013 have had it all these years. Let then see what real policemen do and what they are. Because as things stand right now, they don't have a clue. Not all, but most.
Anonymous said...
Would be a good idea but there are contractual things to look at. Where would the people go and by what method? Like MSF and TRU? no thanks. What about the Captains and Lt's? do they lose there bid spots as well?
9/19/2011 10:42:00 AM
It's simple, the city can close stations if they so choose.
The only thing they have to do, is follow the contracts for reassigning the personnel.
In 25+ years I have never heard so much crying from department members. I know the Internet propagates the information quicker, but it's some of the things that are being whined over.
The city is allowed to run things.
To 9/19 11:50 pm
I earned my bachelors and masters degree while on this job.
I have 37 years with the department.
So how do I fit your mold?
Having a college degree is not mandatory, 60 credit hours are or military service.
Do you want to work with someone who only has a hs degree from our fine CPS school system? Or a GED?
Times have changed my friend.
As far as police being whiners more now than before? Are you kidding?
The police seemed more manly in the early days because we were new!
We were excited and ignored all the bs around us. All us "new guys" were filled with piss and vinegar and when we stepped on ourselves the "old timers" just laughed.
As the dust settled you started to notice how some from your academy class had nice spots, steady watch.
As you were accepted you started to be included in the griping, district level and department/city level.
You got pissed than over time refocused on yourself.
My point is that at one time you yourself were brand new, look back at what you did and when you did it.You'd be surprised that you only had 2-4 years on but felt that you had it all figured out.
We all feel that way.
Judge a fellow officer on his experience,not just his seniority.
When that young college educated officer comes RUNNING to your aid it wouldn't really matter..would it.
To those who keep saying more housecats will hit the streets, are you new here or delusional? Remember when we were gaining p/os on the streets by eliminating desk officers and watch secretaries and the Commanders flock of "whatever" they do. Well look at the sheets some are put on the schedule in made up beat cars that never hit the street. So that means we still have 3 watch secretaries trying to fit into the little cubicle, 5-6 desk officers, and other inside spots. So how many have and how many of those will hit the street driving a beat car and answering calls? That's right zero(0). But keep believing the bullshit that Rahm and Garry are making you believe.
9/19/2011 12:04:00 PM
Bill said...
One correction for Fran's column (imagine that): Wilson did not close a few police stations, he closed about half. Before the Summerdale Scandal, wards each had their own police district, with all the higher-ups and many of the POs hand-selected by the alderman or ward committeeman. By cutting the CPD free of direct political control, the idea was, professionalism would increase and good cops could do their damn jobs without worrying about clout. If only that dream had come true.
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9/19/2011 12:05:00 PM
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When Wilson came to town there were actually only 38 districts, in spite of the fact that they were numbered through 41. 3 of them had already closed. They did largely follow ward lines though, giving the Alderman a great deal of control over them. His purpose in realigning them was at least partially to eliminate that political control. It actually worked for at least as long as Wilson was Superintendent. He was largely immune to politidal pressure, as was the department. It was part of his deal with Daley the First.
When I was a kid in 024, I would see the beat cop near Morse and Greenview drag the assholes into the alley by himself and give the old wooden shampoo. Beat cops on foot had an amazing way of deterring crime, it's a fact!
9/20/2011 04:36:00 AM
The modern realities of cellphone cameras and civil rights lawsuits have an amazing way of deterring ol' school policing.
Move U of C Police into 021s Station give them powers of arrest, problem solved. That way CPD isnt sucked into there steady stream of nonsense they lujack onto us continually.
Just an FYI....UCPD officers already have powers of
arrest. What we don't have, is access to the CLEAR
system (case & arrest reports), which according to
our illustrious 1st Deputy Doty, 'our legal division is
working on it, and we should have access to it in the
very near future .' Doty has been saying this for
well over 2 years now. But one thing we all know
about Doty now; when he first arrived here,
he went around bragging how 'everybody here
now ain't gonna make it.' We've lost most of our
WCs now, and quite a few other good people. Who knew that Chief Lynch would have turned our dept. over to such an incompetent fool?l
take away duty availibility pay from anyone working a Mon /Fri spot inside! watch and unit sec retaries ,training div and the paper pushers at 35 st. then split it up between the beat cops.
What are you, about 90? Ah, the old 45th District. Walked a foot beat on Morse with a nothing but a rolled-up newspaper, did you? And Junior Terrace is in like, Uptown. Maybe Juneway?
9/19/2011 10:58:00 PM
And what are you? About 16. I know everything, nothing important happened before me, I'm here to straighten everything out. Ma, what's for breakfast?
Juneway & Jonquil were once part of Evanston, they didn't want it & gave to Chicago.
Now we don't want it, let's flood it & give it bake to the lake.
Why not two pay grades? One for the street police and 10% less for the house mouse clerks, after all they are not really the police.
For 28yrs I've been the real police been inside for 2 so you can take your 10% less and shove it. When you need help you all run to the front office, good luck to all when were gone. By the way I hope your the first who needs help and you don't get it hair gel. We've forgotten more than you'll ever know, and you probably wouldn't make a pimple on a good coppers ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
abound that Doty is going to announce layoffs within
the Sgt. ranks here very soon. Throw out the old,
make way for the new. This seems to be the motto
of the U of C now, a pillar of fairness and diversity!
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Again: who the fuck cares?
9/19/2011 08:16:00 PM
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We care U of C Officers. You guys are our brothers in blue, don't listen to the crabby guy.
Is that really going to help the street officers by putting these housecats back on the street...they were useless officers when they were on the street in the first place...They could blow off jobs with the best of the dogs on this department...but I guess its either putting the house cats back on the street or cardboard cutouts of police offices in the squad cars. How come the mayor hasn't thought of that...
educate the public that police cars are not dispatched from the neighborhood police stations.....there seems to be that misconception among our citizens...thus closing some antiquated stations should not have or have little effect on police service..We hope!..LOL
21 will never close. This is why...UofC is its own island for the sake of crime stats. If 21 was to be absorbed into 3 the crime stats for the unversity will go up. Of course nothing at the unversity actually changed or got more dangerous (it's all just on paper), but the redistricting would be the cause. UofC would never let something happen that could hurt enrollment, ability to hire staff, etc.
Lol. I love it. Guys with no time gonna be screwed even more. Bring a pillow hair gels.
9/19/2011 09:03:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Superintendent McCarthy ,
sell both buildings 13 and 21
reduces cpd budget 2 commanders,
6 captains , 7 lieutenants , 50 sergeants , minimum of 30 housecats that carry guns but shuffle papers all day .
Good move , long overdue .
You might be able to man a few dozen 2 man cars with the housecats and tactical officers back in uniform .
9/19/2011 09:10:00 AM
Only two commander spots saved. All the others will still be paid; just will be working somewhere else. Might put at most 24-30 more on the street.
McCathy is a joke and so is Rhahmhk. They are out to ruin this city and neither of them have a clue of whats going on. We need that sheriff from Arizona.
024 is the busiest district in A/3.....WTF should it be closed? Those goofs in 20 should surrender their district, move out and give it to the 24th Dist. Rangers! Relocate 20's asses throughout the city!
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